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Storms set to cause more chaos in town

Swindon Advertiser: Flooding on the Coate Water underpass Flooding on the Coate Water underpass

FURTHER stormy weather is due to hit town over the weekend after flood warnings and high winds disrupted services over the past month.

Today is expected to be extremely windy, with gale force south westerly winds. Wind speeds will reach up to 43 miles per hour in places by the early afternoon. Frequent blustery showers will occasionally turn heavy, with the chance of hail or thunder at sporadic times of day.

While Saturday is expected to be less windy, heavy rain will prevail throughout the day.

Through Sunday and into the start of next week the outlook so far is to be wet and windy, but the Met office are not predicting any major problems as a result.

A spokesman for the Met Office said: “While there are no flood warnings currently in place for the Swindon area, there will be a number further to the south and the situation may change.

“Sunday is likely to be the worst affected day, with very high winds likely in that area.”

Stormy weather during last month has been causing a number of problems in the town. Many parts of southern England have seen twice the amount of rainfall they would normally expect, and Swindon has been no exception.

The first storm arrived on December 5 and 6, followed by another on the 18th and 19th and another on 23th and 24th.

Gloomy conditions before Christmas stalled journeys for travellers rushing home for the festive period, with the vast majority of rail services being delayed or cancelled.

The severe weather, which saw winds reach up to 80 mph in places, forced Wiltshire Council contractors on to the roads to make them safe for commuters, and people were urged not to travel unless absolutely necessary.

In adverse weather in the days leading up to New Year’s Eve, a number of trees fell and this plus ice on the road led to crashes.

One of the oldest walnut trees in the country, in Lydiard Park, also succumbed to the storms, after its branches were torn from its trunk.

Flooding has remained in areas of the town following the recent downpours, and a subway path between Coate Water and Park South has now been completely submerged by water.

Steve Blanchard, of Eldene, said: “The water is around 12 feet deep, and there are no warning signs around it.

“If a car went off the road and went down the verge the occupants would all be drowned.”

A flood alert remained in place last night from the Environment Agency for the River Ray and Swinbourne, with the West Swindon area leading down to Water Eaton likely to be affected.

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8:19am Fri 3 Jan 14

John~R says...

Is it rainfall overwhelming the pumps on the underpasses at Coate Roundabout, leaves clogging up the drains or sewer overflow? The cause needs to be investigated and addressed.
Is it rainfall overwhelming the pumps on the underpasses at Coate Roundabout, leaves clogging up the drains or sewer overflow? The cause needs to be investigated and addressed. John~R
  • Score: 8

8:29am Fri 3 Jan 14

house on the hill says...

Very good point, leaves and debris are a major problem in heavy rain, but it would be a major job to check everywhere and then some would complain about the cost of that!
Very good point, leaves and debris are a major problem in heavy rain, but it would be a major job to check everywhere and then some would complain about the cost of that! house on the hill
  • Score: 8

8:58am Fri 3 Jan 14

A.Baron-Cohen says...

house on the hill wrote:
Very good point, leaves and debris are a major problem in heavy rain, but it would be a major job to check everywhere and then some would complain about the cost of that!
The problem isn't cost it is about the management of the town.
Swindon council does not consider sanitation and waste removal priorities, as the Town naturally grows we should see more problems of this type.
How many times have you seen a compact street cleaner in Swindon? Do you think Swindon streets are clean: free of detritus, feces etc.....
[quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: Very good point, leaves and debris are a major problem in heavy rain, but it would be a major job to check everywhere and then some would complain about the cost of that![/p][/quote]The problem isn't cost it is about the management of the town. Swindon council does not consider sanitation and waste removal priorities, as the Town naturally grows we should see more problems of this type. How many times have you seen a compact street cleaner in Swindon? Do you think Swindon streets are clean: free of detritus, feces etc..... A.Baron-Cohen
  • Score: 7

9:23am Fri 3 Jan 14

Ringer says...

There's a compact street cleaner that cleans our street once per week, on the same day after the binmen have been. They're one of the few public services hat actually do a fairly good job, not that sitting in a machine that hoovers up rubbish is particularly difficult.
There's a compact street cleaner that cleans our street once per week, on the same day after the binmen have been. They're one of the few public services hat actually do a fairly good job, not that sitting in a machine that hoovers up rubbish is particularly difficult. Ringer
  • Score: 11

9:38am Fri 3 Jan 14

Still Claire says...

I haven't seen a street cleaner (compact cleaner or actual people) in our street for months. Yesterday was the first collection after Christmas for both bin and recycling and with the wind and the extra amounts people left out there is rubbish in the gutters and on pavements etc.
I haven't seen a street cleaner (compact cleaner or actual people) in our street for months. Yesterday was the first collection after Christmas for both bin and recycling and with the wind and the extra amounts people left out there is rubbish in the gutters and on pavements etc. Still Claire
  • Score: 2

10:15am Fri 3 Jan 14

house on the hill says...

A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
house on the hill wrote:
Very good point, leaves and debris are a major problem in heavy rain, but it would be a major job to check everywhere and then some would complain about the cost of that!
The problem isn't cost it is about the management of the town.
Swindon council does not consider sanitation and waste removal priorities, as the Town naturally grows we should see more problems of this type.
How many times have you seen a compact street cleaner in Swindon? Do you think Swindon streets are clean: free of detritus, feces etc.....
No I think it is a complete mess to be honest. But then they couldnt manage themselves out of a paper bag in this town so nothing surprises me.
[quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: Very good point, leaves and debris are a major problem in heavy rain, but it would be a major job to check everywhere and then some would complain about the cost of that![/p][/quote]The problem isn't cost it is about the management of the town. Swindon council does not consider sanitation and waste removal priorities, as the Town naturally grows we should see more problems of this type. How many times have you seen a compact street cleaner in Swindon? Do you think Swindon streets are clean: free of detritus, feces etc.....[/p][/quote]No I think it is a complete mess to be honest. But then they couldnt manage themselves out of a paper bag in this town so nothing surprises me. house on the hill
  • Score: -1

10:18am Fri 3 Jan 14

Localboy86 says...

Wind and rain in January shock horror
Wind and rain in January shock horror Localboy86
  • Score: 7

10:19am Fri 3 Jan 14

The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man says...

A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
house on the hill wrote:
Very good point, leaves and debris are a major problem in heavy rain, but it would be a major job to check everywhere and then some would complain about the cost of that!
The problem isn't cost it is about the management of the town.
Swindon council does not consider sanitation and waste removal priorities, as the Town naturally grows we should see more problems of this type.
How many times have you seen a compact street cleaner in Swindon? Do you think Swindon streets are clean: free of detritus, feces etc.....
I have to agree. Many of the problems with flooding over recent years (the last 5-10 at least) have been due to culverts and ditches being clogged up. If regular maintenance had been done on these (one of the things we pay them a fortune every month to do), many of the flooding problems would have simply not existed.
[quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: Very good point, leaves and debris are a major problem in heavy rain, but it would be a major job to check everywhere and then some would complain about the cost of that![/p][/quote]The problem isn't cost it is about the management of the town. Swindon council does not consider sanitation and waste removal priorities, as the Town naturally grows we should see more problems of this type. How many times have you seen a compact street cleaner in Swindon? Do you think Swindon streets are clean: free of detritus, feces etc.....[/p][/quote]I have to agree. Many of the problems with flooding over recent years (the last 5-10 at least) have been due to culverts and ditches being clogged up. If regular maintenance had been done on these (one of the things we pay them a fortune every month to do), many of the flooding problems would have simply not existed. The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man
  • Score: 4

11:06am Fri 3 Jan 14

Davey Gravey says...

It seems that this happens every year, they send in contractors to drain it out then the same thing happens the following year. Surely, sorting out the cause needs addressing over anything else or this will just happen forever.
It seems that this happens every year, they send in contractors to drain it out then the same thing happens the following year. Surely, sorting out the cause needs addressing over anything else or this will just happen forever. Davey Gravey
  • Score: 4

11:35am Fri 3 Jan 14

John~R says...

The underpass under Queen's Drive was pumped out last Sunday so it seems to have quickly refilled.

Is there a correlation between the growth of the trees in the middle of Coate Roundabout and the flooding of the adjacent underpasses? The latter seems to have only become a problem in the past 10 years. SBC likes to be seen to be "green" by planting trees without due consideration of the maintenance burden created by the annual crop of leaves.

However, in 2007 I saw water flooding out of a manhole between the two underpasses (the pressure of water lifted the cover) and some of the debris left after other flooding incidents also indicated that sewer flooding might be the cause (hint: if this is true then it might be a good reason to delay the Coate / Commonhead housing development).
The underpass under Queen's Drive was pumped out last Sunday so it seems to have quickly refilled. Is there a correlation between the growth of the trees in the middle of Coate Roundabout and the flooding of the adjacent underpasses? The latter seems to have only become a problem in the past 10 years. SBC likes to be seen to be "green" by planting trees without due consideration of the maintenance burden created by the annual crop of leaves. However, in 2007 I saw water flooding out of a manhole between the two underpasses (the pressure of water lifted the cover) and some of the debris left after other flooding incidents also indicated that sewer flooding might be the cause (hint: if this is true then it might be a good reason to delay the Coate / Commonhead housing development). John~R
  • Score: -2

11:58am Fri 3 Jan 14

Oik1 says...

The Coate Water subways have been flooding in heavy rain from the day they were built, campain after campain by the odd local residents over the last 40 or more years hasn't changed the situation, despite £1000's being spent re-jigging the drainage by the council, the problem remains.
Perhaps it's time for a pedestrian crossing over Queens Drive at that location and the subways to be filled in as happened further down Queens Drive at Walcot.
The Coate Water subways have been flooding in heavy rain from the day they were built, campain after campain by the odd local residents over the last 40 or more years hasn't changed the situation, despite £1000's being spent re-jigging the drainage by the council, the problem remains. Perhaps it's time for a pedestrian crossing over Queens Drive at that location and the subways to be filled in as happened further down Queens Drive at Walcot. Oik1
  • Score: 2

8:52am Mon 6 Jan 14

RichardR1 says...

One of the major causes of this lack of maintenance is the complexity of responsibility. Is it LA, EA, Landowner, Water Authority, sometimes it's a combination of all, and each denies it.

The good old days of the Rivers Authority being responsible for water courses seemed to work but as usual it wasn't broke so the enlightened broke it.

Much more to come I'm afraid. Eventually most of Swindon will be uninsurable, at least at an affordable rate.
One of the major causes of this lack of maintenance is the complexity of responsibility. Is it LA, EA, Landowner, Water Authority, sometimes it's a combination of all, and each denies it. The good old days of the Rivers Authority being responsible for water courses seemed to work but as usual it wasn't broke so the enlightened broke it. Much more to come I'm afraid. Eventually most of Swindon will be uninsurable, at least at an affordable rate. RichardR1
  • Score: 0

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