Dad’s threat to burn home

Swindon Advertiser: Dad’s threat to burn home Dad’s threat to burn home

DAD Kervon Fleming, who assaulted his former girlfriend in front of her seven-year-old son and left her with a broken nose, has again walked free from court.

Fleming, 21, of Croft Road, Old Town, was on a suspended sentence and banned from contacting the woman when he launched the violent attack shortly before Christmas.

He was also on a community order for assaulting his girlfriend weeks earlier when he broke her nose with a punch.

But rather than jail him Recorder Richard Onslow imposed another suspended sentence at Swindon Crown Court on Monday.

Chris Smyth, prosecuting, said Fleming was given a one-year suspended sentence last January for false imprisonment of Miss Lyons. He was put on a community order on December 3 last year for common assault on her a few weeks before.

As part of that sentence magistrates imposed a restraining order banning him from having contact with his victim.

Two weeks later he went to her house to collect some belongings and she allowed him to stay to see the baby. Mr Smyth said because she had consented to him being there, he had not been charged with breaching the restraining order.

They started to argue and she said she was going to leave the house with the children. He said he would smash it up if she did. As she went to leave he shut the door on her arm then punched her in the face. He then went to the living room where he tipped over the television and smashed the remote control on the floor.

As he left she called out and he turned round and punched her in the nose, knocking her to the ground, before threatening to burn the house down if she called the police.

Fleming admitted actual bodily harm, criminal damage and threats to cause criminal damage. Will Woodman, defending, said his client was still a young man and had not been in the country for a long time.

He said he had already served 49 days in custody on remand and he would get more help in the community than in prison.

The judge said: “You did that when her seven-year-old son was there and that was ghastly wasn’t it? That was the act of a bully, wasn’t it?

“This is your last chance to realise you can’t push women about and you can’t hit them. This is your last chance.”

He imposed a nine-month jail term suspended for 18 months and put him on a night-time curfew for four months and supervision for a year. He also imposed a one-year restraining order banning him from contacting the victim, except through solicitors over child contact, or going to her home.

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6:38am Wed 12 Feb 14

house on the hill says...

How do they expect anyone to respect or obey the law when a55holes like this get to walk free. A complete waste of space the courts today.
How do they expect anyone to respect or obey the law when a55holes like this get to walk free. A complete waste of space the courts today. house on the hill

8:01am Wed 12 Feb 14

stfcdod says...

Lock him up.
Lock him up. stfcdod

8:01am Wed 12 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

Utterly and completely unacceptable. What is the point of laws when they can be broken, time and time again, with total impunity?

This criminal has demonstrated that he will NEVER learn and NEVER change... and why would he when our increasingly disturbing judiciary literally tell him that his behaviour is absolutely fine.

Recorder Richard Onslow will be as equally responsible for this idiot's next crime as the idiot himself.
Utterly and completely unacceptable. What is the point of laws when they can be broken, time and time again, with total impunity? This criminal has demonstrated that he will NEVER learn and NEVER change... and why would he when our increasingly disturbing judiciary literally tell him that his behaviour is absolutely fine. Recorder Richard Onslow will be as equally responsible for this idiot's next crime as the idiot himself. ChannelX

8:06am Wed 12 Feb 14

ChannelX says...


Will Woodman, defending, said his client was still a young man and had not been in the country for a long time.


Another brilliant example of the benefits of diversity.

Another violent moron who the 'justice' system will allow to ruin the lives of his child, the mother of his child and himself.

How much of our money has already been wasted on this abject loser?
[quote] Will Woodman, defending, said his client was still a young man and had not been in the country for a long time. [/quote] Another brilliant example of the benefits of diversity. Another violent moron who the 'justice' system will allow to ruin the lives of his child, the mother of his child and himself. How much of our money has already been wasted on this abject loser? ChannelX

8:18am Wed 12 Feb 14

John Trollston says...

I am lost for words very disturbing when shoplifters are getting 28 days in jail but if you break a few bones and the victims female its a slap on the wrist shocking.
I am lost for words very disturbing when shoplifters are getting 28 days in jail but if you break a few bones and the victims female its a slap on the wrist shocking. John Trollston

8:33am Wed 12 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

John Trollston wrote:
I am lost for words very disturbing when shoplifters are getting 28 days in jail but if you break a few bones and the victims female its a slap on the wrist shocking.
He broke the nose of a young woman in front of her 7-year old son. The judge seems to have absolutely NO idea of the consequences of such things.

All he can do is call it 'ghastly'. I mean, seriously, who are these people (I mean the judiciary)?

How can this violent, repeat criminal POSSIBLY have avoided jail AGAIN?
[quote][p][bold]John Trollston[/bold] wrote: I am lost for words very disturbing when shoplifters are getting 28 days in jail but if you break a few bones and the victims female its a slap on the wrist shocking.[/p][/quote]He broke the nose of a young woman in front of her 7-year old son. The judge seems to have absolutely NO idea of the consequences of such things. All he can do is call it 'ghastly'. I mean, seriously, who are these people (I mean the judiciary)? How can this violent, repeat criminal POSSIBLY have avoided jail AGAIN? ChannelX

8:48am Wed 12 Feb 14

swindondad says...

IMHO Kervon Fleming should have been sent to jail and at the end of his sentence sent back to wherever he came here from / never allowed to return.

This country has more than enough "feckless father" of our own without importing them.

N.B. if he had punched Recorder Richard Onslow in the face and threatened to burn his house down would he have walked free from court?
IMHO Kervon Fleming should have been sent to jail and at the end of his sentence sent back to wherever he came here from / never allowed to return. This country has more than enough "feckless father" of our own without importing them. N.B. if he had punched Recorder Richard Onslow in the face and threatened to burn his house down would he have walked free from court? swindondad

8:57am Wed 12 Feb 14

A.Baron-Cohen says...

When Kervon punches someone else in the street or at home, would the judge had done his duty to protect society?
When Kervon punches someone else in the street or at home, would the judge had done his duty to protect society? A.Baron-Cohen

9:00am Wed 12 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
When Kervon punches someone else in the street or at home, would the judge had done his duty to protect society?
It's fairly obvious he wouldn't.

So much for the courts taking domestic violence 'more seriously'.
[quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: When Kervon punches someone else in the street or at home, would the judge had done his duty to protect society?[/p][/quote]It's fairly obvious he wouldn't. So much for the courts taking domestic violence 'more seriously'. ChannelX

9:13am Wed 12 Feb 14

benzss says...

I don't want to sound like Ringer (seriously... I don't), but I can't really understand why his prison sentence was suspended. When he was already on a suspended sentence.
I don't want to sound like Ringer (seriously... I don't), but I can't really understand why his prison sentence was suspended. When he was already on a suspended sentence. benzss

9:35am Wed 12 Feb 14

stratton man says...

I hope the young woman concerned has friends who can have an up front and personal chat with this thug.
I hope the young woman concerned has friends who can have an up front and personal chat with this thug. stratton man

9:36am Wed 12 Feb 14

Davey Gravey says...

People like that need castrating. Why on earth in this day and age can low lives fire out as many kids as they like? The cycle of crime and violence will only continue unless action is taken.
People like that need castrating. Why on earth in this day and age can low lives fire out as many kids as they like? The cycle of crime and violence will only continue unless action is taken. Davey Gravey

10:48am Wed 12 Feb 14

Hmmmf says...

Judge Dread said:
You did that when her seven-year-old son was there and that was ghastly wasn’t it? That was the act of a bully, wasn’t it?
This is your last chance to realise you can’t push women about and you can’t hit them. This is your last chance.

There, have a jolly good telling orf. Ghastly, wasn't it? Worse than you expected, wasn't it? Now be orf with you, young fellow-me-lad, and don't oblige me to have to tell you again that this is your last chance. Again.
Criminal Justice in Great Britain. Ghastly doesn't come close.
[quote][p][bold]Judge Dread[/bold] said: You did that when her seven-year-old son was there and that was ghastly wasn’t it? That was the act of a bully, wasn’t it? This is your last chance to realise you can’t push women about and you can’t hit them. This is your last chance.[/quote] There, have a jolly good telling orf. Ghastly, wasn't it? Worse than you expected, wasn't it? Now be orf with you, young fellow-me-lad, and don't oblige me to have to tell you again that this is your last chance. Again. Criminal Justice in Great Britain. Ghastly doesn't come close. Hmmmf

11:06am Wed 12 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

benzss wrote:
I don't want to sound like Ringer (seriously... I don't), but I can't really understand why his prison sentence was suspended. When he was already on a suspended sentence.
He was actually on a suspended sentence AND a community order when he committed the latest round of violent GBH in front of the hapless victim's 7-year old son.

Still, clearly it's worth giving him 'one last chance'.

IF YOU'RE INSANE.


“This is your last chance to realise you can’t push women about and you can’t hit them."


A very weird thing to tell a person you've just told, very clearly, THREE TIMES that committing GBH against women isn't a problem and nothing will come of it. The criminal knows it's fine to do so because the courts have shown him it is.
[quote][p][bold]benzss[/bold] wrote: I don't want to sound like Ringer (seriously... I don't), but I can't really understand why his prison sentence was suspended. When he was already on a suspended sentence.[/p][/quote]He was actually on a suspended sentence AND a community order when he committed the latest round of violent GBH in front of the hapless victim's 7-year old son. Still, clearly it's worth giving him 'one last chance'. IF YOU'RE INSANE. [quote] “This is your last chance to realise you can’t push women about and you can’t hit them." [/quote] A very weird thing to tell a person you've just told, very clearly, THREE TIMES that committing GBH against women isn't a problem and nothing will come of it. The criminal knows it's fine to do so because the courts have shown him it is. ChannelX

12:33pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Chrisg46 says...

First time i have seen all commenters on this site agreeing...

Who can report a case to the Attorney General for unduly lenient sentencing?
First time i have seen all commenters on this site agreeing... Who can report a case to the Attorney General for unduly lenient sentencing? Chrisg46

12:39pm Wed 12 Feb 14

swindondad says...

Thinking about it rather than the tax payer footing the bill to put this "fool" in prison (which he does deserve no matter what the court thought) we should take a lesson from history and bring back the "STOCKS"

The stocks were used in Elizabethan England and by the Puritans in the colonial period of American history. Their last recorded use in the United Kingdom was in 1872
Thinking about it rather than the tax payer footing the bill to put this "fool" in prison (which he does deserve no matter what the court thought) we should take a lesson from history and bring back the "STOCKS" The stocks were used in Elizabethan England and by the Puritans in the colonial period of American history. Their last recorded use in the United Kingdom was in 1872 swindondad

12:52pm Wed 12 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

Chrisg46 wrote:
First time i have seen all commenters on this site agreeing...

Who can report a case to the Attorney General for unduly lenient sentencing?
Sadly, this criminals various crimes don't fit the requirements:

https://www.gov.uk/c
omplain-about-low-cr
own-court-sentence

Although there is absolutely no doubt the most recent (non) 'sentence' is manifestly unduly lenient - as are most handed down in Swindon's courts these days.

Nothing will be done about it, that much is guaranteed. The only minor glimmer of hope would be to report your concerns to Robert Buckland MP. Despite his claims to the contrary, he IS able to instigate investigations into the appallingly unduly lenient sentences we see on a routine basis in Swindon's courts.
[quote][p][bold]Chrisg46[/bold] wrote: First time i have seen all commenters on this site agreeing... Who can report a case to the Attorney General for unduly lenient sentencing?[/p][/quote]Sadly, this criminals various crimes don't fit the requirements: https://www.gov.uk/c omplain-about-low-cr own-court-sentence Although there is absolutely no doubt the most recent (non) 'sentence' is manifestly unduly lenient - as are most handed down in Swindon's courts these days. Nothing will be done about it, that much is guaranteed. The only minor glimmer of hope would be to report your concerns to Robert Buckland MP. Despite his claims to the contrary, he IS able to instigate investigations into the appallingly unduly lenient sentences we see on a routine basis in Swindon's courts. ChannelX

1:11pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Wildwestener says...

This is shocking. This piece of scum should have been in jail the first time he assaulted this young woman.

Recorder Richard Onslow, hold your head in shame. Your actions mean you are putting this and other women in danger of assault.

It is never acceptable for a man to hit a woman, never.
This is shocking. This piece of scum should have been in jail the first time he assaulted this young woman. Recorder Richard Onslow, hold your head in shame. Your actions mean you are putting this and other women in danger of assault. It is never acceptable for a man to hit a woman, never. Wildwestener

1:20pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Dollyo says...

I feel so sorry for Miss Lyons and her children, there is still not enough help or support out there for victims of domestic violence. My daughter went through a similar situation when her ex stalked her for a couple of years and was very abusive, although not to the same extent as this case, and she felt very let down by the whole criminal justice system. Everyone forgets that these women are terrified of the abuser and dont usually want to get friends/family involved because they feel embarrassed and dont wish anyone else to come to harm. I hope this terrible excuse for a human being gets his just desserts one day. Good luck to Miss Lyons and her family, have you been in touch with Hometruths www.hometruths.coop
I feel so sorry for Miss Lyons and her children, there is still not enough help or support out there for victims of domestic violence. My daughter went through a similar situation when her ex stalked her for a couple of years and was very abusive, although not to the same extent as this case, and she felt very let down by the whole criminal justice system. Everyone forgets that these women are terrified of the abuser and dont usually want to get friends/family involved because they feel embarrassed and dont wish anyone else to come to harm. I hope this terrible excuse for a human being gets his just desserts one day. Good luck to Miss Lyons and her family, have you been in touch with Hometruths www.hometruths.coop Dollyo

1:20pm Wed 12 Feb 14

mcd says...

why was nobody around to take his photo? so it could be shown on the front cover of the adver so at least other locals will know what the thing looks like.
why was nobody around to take his photo? so it could be shown on the front cover of the adver so at least other locals will know what the thing looks like. mcd

1:27pm Wed 12 Feb 14

swindondad says...

mcd wrote:
why was nobody around to take his photo? so it could be shown on the front cover of the adver so at least other locals will know what the thing looks like.
As Kervon Fleming has repeatedly been "found guilty in a court of Law" and has even admitted his guilt in public I agree that his picture should be shown so as to protect / inform future potential victims of his violence nature.

I do have a problem with the media publicizing the photographs / details of those who are "accused" before they have their day in court (the actor from Corry springs to mind).
[quote][p][bold]mcd[/bold] wrote: why was nobody around to take his photo? so it could be shown on the front cover of the adver so at least other locals will know what the thing looks like.[/p][/quote]As Kervon Fleming has repeatedly been "found guilty in a court of Law" and has even admitted his guilt in public I agree that his picture should be shown so as to protect / inform future potential victims of his violence nature. I do have a problem with the media publicizing the photographs / details of those who are "accused" before they have their day in court (the actor from Corry springs to mind). swindondad

1:44pm Wed 12 Feb 14

hayley stacey says...

this is why men like this go on to kill there partners because they get away with the violence beforehand and think they can get away with anything !
this is why men like this go on to kill there partners because they get away with the violence beforehand and think they can get away with anything ! hayley stacey

1:51pm Wed 12 Feb 14

swindondad says...

hayley stacey wrote:
this is why men like this go on to kill there partners because they get away with the violence beforehand and think they can get away with anything !
If you would substitute the word "abusers" for the word "men" I will be happy to agree with you.
[quote][p][bold]hayley stacey[/bold] wrote: this is why men like this go on to kill there partners because they get away with the violence beforehand and think they can get away with anything ![/p][/quote]If you would substitute the word "abusers" for the word "men" I will be happy to agree with you. swindondad

1:56pm Wed 12 Feb 14

hayley stacey says...

swindondad wrote:
hayley stacey wrote:
this is why men like this go on to kill there partners because they get away with the violence beforehand and think they can get away with anything !
If you would substitute the word "abusers" for the word "men" I will be happy to agree with you.
will amend this is why abusers like this go on to kill .
[quote][p][bold]swindondad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hayley stacey[/bold] wrote: this is why men like this go on to kill there partners because they get away with the violence beforehand and think they can get away with anything ![/p][/quote]If you would substitute the word "abusers" for the word "men" I will be happy to agree with you.[/p][/quote]will amend this is why abusers like this go on to kill . hayley stacey

2:18pm Wed 12 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

hayley stacey wrote:
this is why men like this go on to kill there partners because they get away with the violence beforehand and think they can get away with anything !
Absolutely. Make no mistake, we've not heard the last of Kervon Fleming.

Interesting information available very publically online:


Expertise: “If your client needs to advance a really rigorous, forthright defence, Richard Onslow has a knack for being able to do this without turning it into high drama. He gets great results.”

Recent work: He appeared as the leading junior defending the main defendant in the Operation Crossbow multi-handed historical child abuse case.


It all starts to become clearer.

http://www.3pb.co.uk
/profile/richard-ons
low
[quote][p][bold]hayley stacey[/bold] wrote: this is why men like this go on to kill there partners because they get away with the violence beforehand and think they can get away with anything ![/p][/quote]Absolutely. Make no mistake, we've not heard the last of Kervon Fleming. Interesting information available very publically online: [quote] Expertise: “If your client needs to advance a really rigorous, forthright defence, Richard Onslow has a knack for being able to do this without turning it into high drama. He gets great results.” Recent work: He appeared as the leading junior defending the main defendant in the Operation Crossbow multi-handed historical child abuse case. [/quote] It all starts to become clearer. http://www.3pb.co.uk /profile/richard-ons low ChannelX

10:05pm Wed 12 Feb 14

dukeofM4 says...

If you want to do a proper analysis of this case, get the court papers out. Perhaps she holds some responsibility in this as well.

Was she drinking/drugs?
Was she threatening him with police?

There's always a reason. It takes a lot of mental energy to become angry. It usually doesn't happen in an instance even if someone seems calm.

Post the court papers than debate it and get the true story, the court papers can't do one sided reporting.

Watching the telly the other night a famous person was doing the family history thing and found out her great grandfather was brought to court for DV. The court papers read like this blog, he was cruel, abusive etc etc etch. The famous person changed their opinion of their great grandfather when she later found out her great grandmother (his wife) died of chronic alcoholism age 33. She must have been a dream to live with.

The Advert won't print anything negative about her for fear of upsetting Woman's rights groups so they do one-sided reporting.
If you want to do a proper analysis of this case, get the court papers out. Perhaps she holds some responsibility in this as well. Was she drinking/drugs? Was she threatening him with police? There's always a reason. It takes a lot of mental energy to become angry. It usually doesn't happen in an instance even if someone seems calm. Post the court papers than debate it and get the true story, the court papers can't do one sided reporting. Watching the telly the other night a famous person was doing the family history thing and found out her great grandfather was brought to court for DV. The court papers read like this blog, he was cruel, abusive etc etc etch. The famous person changed their opinion of their great grandfather when she later found out her great grandmother (his wife) died of chronic alcoholism age 33. She must have been a dream to live with. The Advert won't print anything negative about her for fear of upsetting Woman's rights groups so they do one-sided reporting. dukeofM4

8:35am Thu 13 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

dukeofM4 wrote:
If you want to do a proper analysis of this case, get the court papers out. Perhaps she holds some responsibility in this as well.

Was she drinking/drugs?
Was she threatening him with police?

There's always a reason. It takes a lot of mental energy to become angry. It usually doesn't happen in an instance even if someone seems calm.

Post the court papers than debate it and get the true story, the court papers can't do one sided reporting.

Watching the telly the other night a famous person was doing the family history thing and found out her great grandfather was brought to court for DV. The court papers read like this blog, he was cruel, abusive etc etc etch. The famous person changed their opinion of their great grandfather when she later found out her great grandmother (his wife) died of chronic alcoholism age 33. She must have been a dream to live with.

The Advert won't print anything negative about her for fear of upsetting Woman's rights groups so they do one-sided reporting.
Although your usual pro-violent abuser, anti-female contribution took longer than expected to appear, you seem to have overlooked the fact that this criminal has now been found guilty and convicted of the same type of violent crimes (at least) three times.

And who knows what japes he got up to while still in his homeland of the West Indies.

Your faux concern for the poor little darling might prove to look even sillier when he is, inevitably, arrested, charged and found guilty of (possibly even more serious) crimes in the near future.

Why you continue to try and defend these violent abusers is as fascinating as it is misguided.
[quote][p][bold]dukeofM4[/bold] wrote: If you want to do a proper analysis of this case, get the court papers out. Perhaps she holds some responsibility in this as well. Was she drinking/drugs? Was she threatening him with police? There's always a reason. It takes a lot of mental energy to become angry. It usually doesn't happen in an instance even if someone seems calm. Post the court papers than debate it and get the true story, the court papers can't do one sided reporting. Watching the telly the other night a famous person was doing the family history thing and found out her great grandfather was brought to court for DV. The court papers read like this blog, he was cruel, abusive etc etc etch. The famous person changed their opinion of their great grandfather when she later found out her great grandmother (his wife) died of chronic alcoholism age 33. She must have been a dream to live with. The Advert won't print anything negative about her for fear of upsetting Woman's rights groups so they do one-sided reporting.[/p][/quote]Although your usual pro-violent abuser, anti-female contribution took longer than expected to appear, you seem to have overlooked the fact that this criminal has now been found guilty and convicted of the same type of violent crimes (at least) three times. And who knows what japes he got up to while still in his homeland of the West Indies. Your faux concern for the poor little darling might prove to look even sillier when he is, inevitably, arrested, charged and found guilty of (possibly even more serious) crimes in the near future. Why you continue to try and defend these violent abusers is as fascinating as it is misguided. ChannelX

1:40pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Chrisg46 says...

dukeofM4 wrote:
If you want to do a proper analysis of this case, get the court papers out. Perhaps she holds some responsibility in this as well.

Was she drinking/drugs?
Was she threatening him with police?

There's always a reason. It takes a lot of mental energy to become angry. It usually doesn't happen in an instance even if someone seems calm.

Post the court papers than debate it and get the true story, the court papers can't do one sided reporting.

Watching the telly the other night a famous person was doing the family history thing and found out her great grandfather was brought to court for DV. The court papers read like this blog, he was cruel, abusive etc etc etch. The famous person changed their opinion of their great grandfather when she later found out her great grandmother (his wife) died of chronic alcoholism age 33. She must have been a dream to live with.

The Advert won't print anything negative about her for fear of upsetting Woman's rights groups so they do one-sided reporting.
"Was she drinking/drugs?" So what if she was? Unless she attacked him first (see below), thats no excuse.
Was she threatening him with police?" Completely and utterly irrelevant. That is in no way an excuse to hit anyone.

The only circumstances i can think of it to be considered acceptable to strike another is self defence.
[quote][p][bold]dukeofM4[/bold] wrote: If you want to do a proper analysis of this case, get the court papers out. Perhaps she holds some responsibility in this as well. Was she drinking/drugs? Was she threatening him with police? There's always a reason. It takes a lot of mental energy to become angry. It usually doesn't happen in an instance even if someone seems calm. Post the court papers than debate it and get the true story, the court papers can't do one sided reporting. Watching the telly the other night a famous person was doing the family history thing and found out her great grandfather was brought to court for DV. The court papers read like this blog, he was cruel, abusive etc etc etch. The famous person changed their opinion of their great grandfather when she later found out her great grandmother (his wife) died of chronic alcoholism age 33. She must have been a dream to live with. The Advert won't print anything negative about her for fear of upsetting Woman's rights groups so they do one-sided reporting.[/p][/quote]"Was she drinking/drugs?" So what if she was? Unless she attacked him first (see below), thats no excuse. Was she threatening him with police?" Completely and utterly irrelevant. That is in no way an excuse to hit anyone. The only circumstances i can think of it to be considered acceptable to strike another is self defence. Chrisg46

10:25pm Thu 13 Feb 14

dukeofM4 says...

How do we know what happened? The Advert just reports about him.

The old adage applies, it takes two to tango. Some people keep advocated to execute every person who has even a glimmer of domestic violence in their eyes.

This is a social problem, not criminal (in most cases), and the courts are not fit for purpose even if they nailed every defendant to the cross.

It's an industry, self feeding, that fails to reduce the problem.

This problem has been around since cavemen, and it'll be there until the end of time. The police are bad referees, the courts are a non-sense, the solicitors milk legal aid, companies ride the bandwagon hoping to gain customers, politicians are looking for votes, at the end of the day, people think what they think.

The CPS has tried three celebrities and lost all three cases. The only one they could convict was Stuart Hall who pleaded guilty. It's a joke.

Some stuff civil servant in a court doesn't give a f**k about these cases, just process it through like thousands before.

All they may succeed in doing is separating people apart, but that's it. And that's only if they both agree to it. Otherwise, the police and courts are feckless.
How do we know what happened? The Advert just reports about him. The old adage applies, it takes two to tango. Some people keep advocated to execute every person who has even a glimmer of domestic violence in their eyes. This is a social problem, not criminal (in most cases), and the courts are not fit for purpose even if they nailed every defendant to the cross. It's an industry, self feeding, that fails to reduce the problem. This problem has been around since cavemen, and it'll be there until the end of time. The police are bad referees, the courts are a non-sense, the solicitors milk legal aid, companies ride the bandwagon hoping to gain customers, politicians are looking for votes, at the end of the day, people think what they think. The CPS has tried three celebrities and lost all three cases. The only one they could convict was Stuart Hall who pleaded guilty. It's a joke. Some stuff civil servant in a court doesn't give a f**k about these cases, just process it through like thousands before. All they may succeed in doing is separating people apart, but that's it. And that's only if they both agree to it. Otherwise, the police and courts are feckless. dukeofM4

10:41pm Thu 13 Feb 14

dukeofM4 says...

Oh there is one more point about the legal solution.

You arrest people, they get DNAed, it's put on the National database.

The irony is Person A is DNAed because partner called in the goons, to drag them out of the house, the goons do the DNA, years decades later, the child, grandchild, or even great grandchild gets arrested for some minor crime, because their ancestor was removed by the goons 50 years ago.

Today's DNA can now eliminate 99% of the population and give the goons a clear signpost to the offender.

So all people are doing when they're reporting domestic violence is sentencing all the people down the DNA trail to police surveillance in the future.

How would a mother feel if her child was arrested, charged, and prosecuted for a minor crime because the police were provided a signpost to narrow down the suspects.

You call in the goons it becomes a family affair further down the line.

Probably bloody well f**ck*d off.
Oh there is one more point about the legal solution. You arrest people, they get DNAed, it's put on the National database. The irony is Person A is DNAed because partner called in the goons, to drag them out of the house, the goons do the DNA, years decades later, the child, grandchild, or even great grandchild gets arrested for some minor crime, because their ancestor was removed by the goons 50 years ago. Today's DNA can now eliminate 99% of the population and give the goons a clear signpost to the offender. So all people are doing when they're reporting domestic violence is sentencing all the people down the DNA trail to police surveillance in the future. How would a mother feel if her child was arrested, charged, and prosecuted for a minor crime because the police were provided a signpost to narrow down the suspects. You call in the goons it becomes a family affair further down the line. Probably bloody well f**ck*d off. dukeofM4

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