Police want Town to cough up debt

Police escort visiting fans into the County Ground before a match

Police escort visiting fans into the County Ground before a match

First published in News Swindon Advertiser: Photograph of the Author by , @Michael_Benke

IT IS believed Swindon Town Football Club owe thousands of pounds for the policing of matches dating back to last season.

While no exact figure has been confirmed, the Adver understands almost £30,000 is owed to Wiltshire Police and covers the last four home games of the 2013/14 season.

For games which are likely to have high attendance or with a history of trouble, extra police are on duty but some of the cost falls to the club.

Both the police and the club have confirmed discussions have taken place but neither denied the debt or said when any money would be paid.

A Wiltshire Police spokesman said: “Wiltshire Police remain in discussion with Swindon Town Football Club regarding unpaid funds.

“We are hopeful that this situation will be resolved as soon as possible.

“It would be inappropriate to comment further at this time.”

Last week it is believed that Town officials said they would have the money paid by the first home game of the season but nothing materialised.

The club have neither confirmed nor denied the debt but said they are in talks with the police and are keen to maintain a strong relationship.

A spokesman said: “The club would not like to comment on this matter directly but can confirm that a meeting between club officials and high-ranking police officials took place recently.

“The club look forward to cementing their good relationship with Wiltshire Police over the forthcoming season and beyond.”

It is understood further discussions are to take place later this week.

A possible repercussion for Swindon not paying up is that the police may refuse to provide officers for future games, leading to potential postponements.

Town’s next home game is against Crewe on August 23, but it is unclear as to whether this game is in any jeopardy.

Not all matches require an extra police presence, such as last Saturday’s 3-1 victory against Scunthorpe, so extra time may be allowed for negotiations to take place.

Earlier this year, chairman Lee Power took control of the club following a lengthy legal battle at the High Court with former owner Jed McCrory.

Mr Power issued an open letter in July to fans in which he said income was down on the previous year because of the court case.

The news of debt comes following a strong start to the season for Swindon with back-to -back wins.

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6:09am Thu 14 Aug 14

RogerJ1969 says...

The Adver is going to the dogs. Proper gutter press headline followed by a bit of speculation that is not helpful and smacks of a desperate 'reporter' out to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
Report fact by all means but do not try to destabilise the club.
The Adver is going to the dogs. Proper gutter press headline followed by a bit of speculation that is not helpful and smacks of a desperate 'reporter' out to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Report fact by all means but do not try to destabilise the club. RogerJ1969
  • Score: 9

6:33am Thu 14 Aug 14

MAC1967 says...

RogerJ1969 wrote:
The Adver is going to the dogs. Proper gutter press headline followed by a bit of speculation that is not helpful and smacks of a desperate 'reporter' out to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
Report fact by all means but do not try to destabilise the club.
Totally Agree, what a pointless story. You would probably find a lot of clubs behind in payments to police. Why stir things up Adver when things are going well!!!
[quote][p][bold]RogerJ1969[/bold] wrote: The Adver is going to the dogs. Proper gutter press headline followed by a bit of speculation that is not helpful and smacks of a desperate 'reporter' out to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Report fact by all means but do not try to destabilise the club.[/p][/quote]Totally Agree, what a pointless story. You would probably find a lot of clubs behind in payments to police. Why stir things up Adver when things are going well!!! MAC1967
  • Score: 13

6:35am Thu 14 Aug 14

North _Swindon_Red says...

Talk about having your head in the sand.. We have an owner who can't even pay 30K to the Police for Policing of matches.. Just proves all a long Lee Power got NO MONEY therefore shouldn't even be anywhere near this football club. This man will bring down Swindon Town but supporters wear blinkers and don't want to face the real truth this club has financial problems.
Talk about having your head in the sand.. We have an owner who can't even pay 30K to the Police for Policing of matches.. Just proves all a long Lee Power got NO MONEY therefore shouldn't even be anywhere near this football club. This man will bring down Swindon Town but supporters wear blinkers and don't want to face the real truth this club has financial problems. North _Swindon_Red
  • Score: -30

6:38am Thu 14 Aug 14

North _Swindon_Red says...

MAC1967 wrote:
RogerJ1969 wrote:
The Adver is going to the dogs. Proper gutter press headline followed by a bit of speculation that is not helpful and smacks of a desperate 'reporter' out to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
Report fact by all means but do not try to destabilise the club.
Totally Agree, what a pointless story. You would probably find a lot of clubs behind in payments to police. Why stir things up Adver when things are going well!!!
Show us the proof of other clubs owing the police money for Policing of their matches.. Well I am waiting.. Look forward to your proof. And owing debts is pointless? will say the same if Administration happens?
[quote][p][bold]MAC1967[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RogerJ1969[/bold] wrote: The Adver is going to the dogs. Proper gutter press headline followed by a bit of speculation that is not helpful and smacks of a desperate 'reporter' out to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Report fact by all means but do not try to destabilise the club.[/p][/quote]Totally Agree, what a pointless story. You would probably find a lot of clubs behind in payments to police. Why stir things up Adver when things are going well!!![/p][/quote]Show us the proof of other clubs owing the police money for Policing of their matches.. Well I am waiting.. Look forward to your proof. And owing debts is pointless? will say the same if Administration happens? North _Swindon_Red
  • Score: -20

6:48am Thu 14 Aug 14

kammyselbow says...

North _Swindon_Red wrote:
Talk about having your head in the sand.. We have an owner who can't even pay 30K to the Police for Policing of matches.. Just proves all a long Lee Power got NO MONEY therefore shouldn't even be anywhere near this football club. This man will bring down Swindon Town but supporters wear blinkers and don't want to face the real truth this club has financial problems.
Get a grip, typical Adver story of late, pointless disruptive agenda. If the club feels they want to contest the costs applicable to the four games mentioned then why not. Its all about added value, have you never contested any bill where you thought you were being over charged?
[quote][p][bold]North _Swindon_Red[/bold] wrote: Talk about having your head in the sand.. We have an owner who can't even pay 30K to the Police for Policing of matches.. Just proves all a long Lee Power got NO MONEY therefore shouldn't even be anywhere near this football club. This man will bring down Swindon Town but supporters wear blinkers and don't want to face the real truth this club has financial problems.[/p][/quote]Get a grip, typical Adver story of late, pointless disruptive agenda. If the club feels they want to contest the costs applicable to the four games mentioned then why not. Its all about added value, have you never contested any bill where you thought you were being over charged? kammyselbow
  • Score: 6

6:52am Thu 14 Aug 14

North _Swindon_Red says...

kammyselbow wrote:
North _Swindon_Red wrote:
Talk about having your head in the sand.. We have an owner who can't even pay 30K to the Police for Policing of matches.. Just proves all a long Lee Power got NO MONEY therefore shouldn't even be anywhere near this football club. This man will bring down Swindon Town but supporters wear blinkers and don't want to face the real truth this club has financial problems.
Get a grip, typical Adver story of late, pointless disruptive agenda. If the club feels they want to contest the costs applicable to the four games mentioned then why not. Its all about added value, have you never contested any bill where you thought you were being over charged?
hahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahah lol..........
[quote][p][bold]kammyselbow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]North _Swindon_Red[/bold] wrote: Talk about having your head in the sand.. We have an owner who can't even pay 30K to the Police for Policing of matches.. Just proves all a long Lee Power got NO MONEY therefore shouldn't even be anywhere near this football club. This man will bring down Swindon Town but supporters wear blinkers and don't want to face the real truth this club has financial problems.[/p][/quote]Get a grip, typical Adver story of late, pointless disruptive agenda. If the club feels they want to contest the costs applicable to the four games mentioned then why not. Its all about added value, have you never contested any bill where you thought you were being over charged?[/p][/quote]hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahah lol.......... North _Swindon_Red
  • Score: -14

7:04am Thu 14 Aug 14

RogerJ1969 says...

North _Swindon_Red wrote:
kammyselbow wrote:
North _Swindon_Red wrote:
Talk about having your head in the sand.. We have an owner who can't even pay 30K to the Police for Policing of matches.. Just proves all a long Lee Power got NO MONEY therefore shouldn't even be anywhere near this football club. This man will bring down Swindon Town but supporters wear blinkers and don't want to face the real truth this club has financial problems.
Get a grip, typical Adver story of late, pointless disruptive agenda. If the club feels they want to contest the costs applicable to the four games mentioned then why not. Its all about added value, have you never contested any bill where you thought you were being over charged?
hahahahahahahahahaha

hahahahahahahahah lol..........
OK then, explain your plan to lead the club to a better place. Are you aware of the recent history of the club?
If Lee Power was not trying his best to get us back on our feet we would be in the same position as Salisbury are now.

Cheap sniping and juvenile replies do not engender credibility.
[quote][p][bold]North _Swindon_Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kammyselbow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]North _Swindon_Red[/bold] wrote: Talk about having your head in the sand.. We have an owner who can't even pay 30K to the Police for Policing of matches.. Just proves all a long Lee Power got NO MONEY therefore shouldn't even be anywhere near this football club. This man will bring down Swindon Town but supporters wear blinkers and don't want to face the real truth this club has financial problems.[/p][/quote]Get a grip, typical Adver story of late, pointless disruptive agenda. If the club feels they want to contest the costs applicable to the four games mentioned then why not. Its all about added value, have you never contested any bill where you thought you were being over charged?[/p][/quote]hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahah lol..........[/p][/quote]OK then, explain your plan to lead the club to a better place. Are you aware of the recent history of the club? If Lee Power was not trying his best to get us back on our feet we would be in the same position as Salisbury are now. Cheap sniping and juvenile replies do not engender credibility. RogerJ1969
  • Score: 14

7:30am Thu 14 Aug 14

EastleazeRed says...

Its hardly speculation as both parties have admitted being in discussion over the matter . STFC have a history of bad debts and not paying bills , so I suppose its in the public interest to report the story .
Its hardly speculation as both parties have admitted being in discussion over the matter . STFC have a history of bad debts and not paying bills , so I suppose its in the public interest to report the story . EastleazeRed
  • Score: 9

8:13am Thu 14 Aug 14

redbythesea says...

Pretty sure the Adver could investigate any small to medium sized company and they wouldn't pay their bills (or old bills) on time. Only because it's stfc that it makes a story.
Pretty sure the Adver could investigate any small to medium sized company and they wouldn't pay their bills (or old bills) on time. Only because it's stfc that it makes a story. redbythesea
  • Score: 6

10:17am Thu 14 Aug 14

Wiltshireman says...

North _Swindon_Red wrote:
Talk about having your head in the sand.. We have an owner who can't even pay 30K to the Police for Policing of matches.. Just proves all a long Lee Power got NO MONEY therefore shouldn't even be anywhere near this football club. This man will bring down Swindon Town but supporters wear blinkers and don't want to face the real truth this club has financial problems.
What a prat ... So you want Fat Albert back with the classy cars and trhe women.
[quote][p][bold]North _Swindon_Red[/bold] wrote: Talk about having your head in the sand.. We have an owner who can't even pay 30K to the Police for Policing of matches.. Just proves all a long Lee Power got NO MONEY therefore shouldn't even be anywhere near this football club. This man will bring down Swindon Town but supporters wear blinkers and don't want to face the real truth this club has financial problems.[/p][/quote]What a prat ... So you want Fat Albert back with the classy cars and trhe women. Wiltshireman
  • Score: 2

10:56am Thu 14 Aug 14

Cooking_by_smoke_alarm says...

North _Swindon_Red says...

Talk about having your head in the sand.. We have an owner who can't even pay 30K to the Police for Policing of matches.. Just proves all a long Lee Power got NO MONEY therefore shouldn't even be anywhere near this football club. This man will bring down Swindon Town but supporters wear blinkers and don't want to face the real truth this club has financial problems.


WELL, IF YOU THINK YOU CAN DO BETTER AND TAKE THIS REAL RISK OF LOSING MONEY....BY ALL MEANS, ANYONE CAN SPOUT THEIR MOUTH HERE; IT TAKES A SPOT OF COURAGE AND SOME FINANCE TO KEEP A FOOTBALL CLUB RUNNING. NO, NOT FOR YOU AND YOUR ILK? WONT TAKE THE RISK? BEST KEEP SCHTUM.
North _Swindon_Red says... Talk about having your head in the sand.. We have an owner who can't even pay 30K to the Police for Policing of matches.. Just proves all a long Lee Power got NO MONEY therefore shouldn't even be anywhere near this football club. This man will bring down Swindon Town but supporters wear blinkers and don't want to face the real truth this club has financial problems. WELL, IF YOU THINK YOU CAN DO BETTER AND TAKE THIS REAL RISK OF LOSING MONEY....BY ALL MEANS, ANYONE CAN SPOUT THEIR MOUTH HERE; IT TAKES A SPOT OF COURAGE AND SOME FINANCE TO KEEP A FOOTBALL CLUB RUNNING. NO, NOT FOR YOU AND YOUR ILK? WONT TAKE THE RISK? BEST KEEP SCHTUM. Cooking_by_smoke_alarm
  • Score: -4

11:54am Thu 14 Aug 14

Hmmmf says...

Cooking_by_smoke_ala
rm
wrote:
WELL, IF YOU THINK YOU CAN DO BETTER AND TAKE THIS REAL RISK OF LOSING MONEY....BY ALL MEANS, ANYONE CAN SPOUT THEIR MOUTH HERE; IT TAKES A SPOT OF COURAGE AND SOME FINANCE TO KEEP A FOOTBALL CLUB RUNNING. NO, NOT FOR YOU AND YOUR ILK? WONT TAKE THE RISK? BEST KEEP SCHTUM.

Yeah! Cos only people who own football clubs can comment on stories about running football clubs innit!
[quote][p][bold]Cooking_by_smoke_ala rm [/bold] wrote: WELL, IF YOU THINK YOU CAN DO BETTER AND TAKE THIS REAL RISK OF LOSING MONEY....BY ALL MEANS, ANYONE CAN SPOUT THEIR MOUTH HERE; IT TAKES A SPOT OF COURAGE AND SOME FINANCE TO KEEP A FOOTBALL CLUB RUNNING. NO, NOT FOR YOU AND YOUR ILK? WONT TAKE THE RISK? BEST KEEP SCHTUM.[/quote] Yeah! Cos only people who own football clubs can comment on stories about running football clubs innit! Hmmmf
  • Score: -1

11:57am Thu 14 Aug 14

scottwichall says...

Hmmmf wrote:
Cooking_by_smoke_ala

rm
wrote:
WELL, IF YOU THINK YOU CAN DO BETTER AND TAKE THIS REAL RISK OF LOSING MONEY....BY ALL MEANS, ANYONE CAN SPOUT THEIR MOUTH HERE; IT TAKES A SPOT OF COURAGE AND SOME FINANCE TO KEEP A FOOTBALL CLUB RUNNING. NO, NOT FOR YOU AND YOUR ILK? WONT TAKE THE RISK? BEST KEEP SCHTUM.

Yeah! Cos only people who own football clubs can comment on stories about running football clubs innit!
HMMMMF YOU SHOULD HAVE TYPED YOUR RESPONSE IN CAPITALS AS WELL, INNIT
[quote][p][bold]Hmmmf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cooking_by_smoke_ala rm [/bold] wrote: WELL, IF YOU THINK YOU CAN DO BETTER AND TAKE THIS REAL RISK OF LOSING MONEY....BY ALL MEANS, ANYONE CAN SPOUT THEIR MOUTH HERE; IT TAKES A SPOT OF COURAGE AND SOME FINANCE TO KEEP A FOOTBALL CLUB RUNNING. NO, NOT FOR YOU AND YOUR ILK? WONT TAKE THE RISK? BEST KEEP SCHTUM.[/quote] Yeah! Cos only people who own football clubs can comment on stories about running football clubs innit![/p][/quote]HMMMMF YOU SHOULD HAVE TYPED YOUR RESPONSE IN CAPITALS AS WELL, INNIT scottwichall
  • Score: 1

12:28pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Alan Bast*rd says...

Stfc, the soap opera that keeps on giving. Any chance of someone competent running the club one day?
Stfc, the soap opera that keeps on giving. Any chance of someone competent running the club one day? Alan Bast*rd
  • Score: 0

1:40pm Thu 14 Aug 14

The Jockster says...

I posted weeks ago that Plod were owed £20k and got derided for saying so. Now turns out it's 30k.
Happy clappers get real it. Has to be paid if not no games can go ahead and ask yourselves what happens to cash flow if that happens! Answer for those who still can't grasp the nettle? The club gets deeper into debt and more suppliers don't get paid starting a snowball effect. There is no suggestion from either side that the cost is being contested so there is only one solution -as the Adver said cough up LP!!
I posted weeks ago that Plod were owed £20k and got derided for saying so. Now turns out it's 30k. Happy clappers get real it. Has to be paid if not no games can go ahead and ask yourselves what happens to cash flow if that happens! Answer for those who still can't grasp the nettle? The club gets deeper into debt and more suppliers don't get paid starting a snowball effect. There is no suggestion from either side that the cost is being contested so there is only one solution -as the Adver said cough up LP!! The Jockster
  • Score: -3

1:53pm Thu 14 Aug 14

house on the hill says...

Alan Bast*rd wrote:
Stfc, the soap opera that keeps on giving. Any chance of someone competent running the club one day?
Anyone competent knows better than to try running a football club! They are all money pits, so you have to really want to do it, no one does it to make money!
[quote][p][bold]Alan Bast*rd[/bold] wrote: Stfc, the soap opera that keeps on giving. Any chance of someone competent running the club one day?[/p][/quote]Anyone competent knows better than to try running a football club! They are all money pits, so you have to really want to do it, no one does it to make money! house on the hill
  • Score: -1

2:14pm Thu 14 Aug 14

redbythesea says...

The Jockster wrote:
I posted weeks ago that Plod were owed £20k and got derided for saying so. Now turns out it's 30k.
Happy clappers get real it. Has to be paid if not no games can go ahead and ask yourselves what happens to cash flow if that happens! Answer for those who still can't grasp the nettle? The club gets deeper into debt and more suppliers don't get paid starting a snowball effect. There is no suggestion from either side that the cost is being contested so there is only one solution -as the Adver said cough up LP!!
Only a true fan could sanctimoniously gloat, about having knowledge which is damaging to the football club. A true fan of a different club that is. But let's be honourable. Well done Jockstrap. You were correct !!
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: I posted weeks ago that Plod were owed £20k and got derided for saying so. Now turns out it's 30k. Happy clappers get real it. Has to be paid if not no games can go ahead and ask yourselves what happens to cash flow if that happens! Answer for those who still can't grasp the nettle? The club gets deeper into debt and more suppliers don't get paid starting a snowball effect. There is no suggestion from either side that the cost is being contested so there is only one solution -as the Adver said cough up LP!![/p][/quote]Only a true fan could sanctimoniously gloat, about having knowledge which is damaging to the football club. A true fan of a different club that is. But let's be honourable. Well done Jockstrap. You were correct !! redbythesea
  • Score: 1

2:30pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Cooking_by_smoke_alarm says...

Hmmmf says...


Cooking_by_smoke_ala

rm wrote:
WELL, IF YOU THINK YOU CAN DO BETTER AND TAKE THIS REAL RISK OF LOSING MONEY....BY ALL MEANS, ANYONE CAN SPOUT THEIR MOUTH HERE; IT TAKES A SPOT OF COURAGE AND SOME FINANCE TO KEEP A FOOTBALL CLUB RUNNING. NO, NOT FOR YOU AND YOUR ILK? WONT TAKE THE RISK? BEST KEEP SCHTUM.

Yeah! Cos only people who own football clubs can comment on stories about running football clubs innit! Score: -1


No, but they put their money where their mouth is.
Talk is cheap. Much of what I read on here is hollow rhetoric from classic 'beta ' males.

I may not like some of the folks whom I do business with, but I respect them for making their own way in the world and not sit on the side lines carping about what others should or shouldn't do.






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Hmmmf says... Cooking_by_smoke_ala rm wrote: WELL, IF YOU THINK YOU CAN DO BETTER AND TAKE THIS REAL RISK OF LOSING MONEY....BY ALL MEANS, ANYONE CAN SPOUT THEIR MOUTH HERE; IT TAKES A SPOT OF COURAGE AND SOME FINANCE TO KEEP A FOOTBALL CLUB RUNNING. NO, NOT FOR YOU AND YOUR ILK? WONT TAKE THE RISK? BEST KEEP SCHTUM. Yeah! Cos only people who own football clubs can comment on stories about running football clubs innit! Score: -1 No, but they put their money where their mouth is. Talk is cheap. Much of what I read on here is hollow rhetoric from classic 'beta ' males. I may not like some of the folks whom I do business with, but I respect them for making their own way in the world and not sit on the side lines carping about what others should or shouldn't do.   . Quote Report this post Cooking_by_smoke_alarm
  • Score: -1

3:06pm Thu 14 Aug 14

The Jockster says...

redbythesea wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
I posted weeks ago that Plod were owed £20k and got derided for saying so. Now turns out it's 30k.
Happy clappers get real it. Has to be paid if not no games can go ahead and ask yourselves what happens to cash flow if that happens! Answer for those who still can't grasp the nettle? The club gets deeper into debt and more suppliers don't get paid starting a snowball effect. There is no suggestion from either side that the cost is being contested so there is only one solution -as the Adver said cough up LP!!
Only a true fan could sanctimoniously gloat, about having knowledge which is damaging to the football club. A true fan of a different club that is. But let's be honourable. Well done Jockstrap. You were correct !!
Redbythesea I wish I'd been wrong, I was told by a local media source (not the Adver obviously) a few weeks ago. If I am guilty of gloating it's only at the happy clappers in here who rubbished my information and when I turn out to be right like Fredi they like it even less. North Swindon red is spot on and anybody who thinks LP has got £5 more than Jed is deluded. I think all LP is doing ultimately is trying to recoup his investment and once he's done that he'll be off. He said himself he didn't know how long he'd be custodian for.
Some people really do need to wake up and smell the coffee.
[quote][p][bold]redbythesea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: I posted weeks ago that Plod were owed £20k and got derided for saying so. Now turns out it's 30k. Happy clappers get real it. Has to be paid if not no games can go ahead and ask yourselves what happens to cash flow if that happens! Answer for those who still can't grasp the nettle? The club gets deeper into debt and more suppliers don't get paid starting a snowball effect. There is no suggestion from either side that the cost is being contested so there is only one solution -as the Adver said cough up LP!![/p][/quote]Only a true fan could sanctimoniously gloat, about having knowledge which is damaging to the football club. A true fan of a different club that is. But let's be honourable. Well done Jockstrap. You were correct !![/p][/quote]Redbythesea I wish I'd been wrong, I was told by a local media source (not the Adver obviously) a few weeks ago. If I am guilty of gloating it's only at the happy clappers in here who rubbished my information and when I turn out to be right like Fredi they like it even less. North Swindon red is spot on and anybody who thinks LP has got £5 more than Jed is deluded. I think all LP is doing ultimately is trying to recoup his investment and once he's done that he'll be off. He said himself he didn't know how long he'd be custodian for. Some people really do need to wake up and smell the coffee. The Jockster
  • Score: -1

3:10pm Thu 14 Aug 14

The Jockster says...

RogerJ1969 wrote:
The Adver is going to the dogs. Proper gutter press headline followed by a bit of speculation that is not helpful and smacks of a desperate 'reporter' out to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
Report fact by all means but do not try to destabilise the club.
So the FACTS are then that the club don't owe Plod £30k. And the Adver are totally wrong for reporting a non fact?
Strange logic there my boy particularly when both sides admit that there is a sum outstanding for police match cover.
[quote][p][bold]RogerJ1969[/bold] wrote: The Adver is going to the dogs. Proper gutter press headline followed by a bit of speculation that is not helpful and smacks of a desperate 'reporter' out to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Report fact by all means but do not try to destabilise the club.[/p][/quote]So the FACTS are then that the club don't owe Plod £30k. And the Adver are totally wrong for reporting a non fact? Strange logic there my boy particularly when both sides admit that there is a sum outstanding for police match cover. The Jockster
  • Score: -5

3:59pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Hmmmf says...

Cooking_by_smoke_ala
rm
wrote:
No, but they put their money where their mouth is.
Talk is cheap. Much of what I read on here is hollow rhetoric from classic 'beta ' males.

I may not like some of the folks whom I do business with, but I respect them for making their own way in the world and not sit on the side lines carping about what others should or shouldn't do.

Yeah! Cos only self-employed 'alpha' males willing to risk a big debt should be allowed to voice an opinion on a story about big debt, innit!

D'you see the pattern forming?
[quote][p][bold]Cooking_by_smoke_ala rm [/bold] wrote: No, but they put their money where their mouth is. Talk is cheap. Much of what I read on here is hollow rhetoric from classic 'beta ' males. I may not like some of the folks whom I do business with, but I respect them for making their own way in the world and not sit on the side lines carping about what others should or shouldn't do.[/quote] Yeah! Cos only self-employed 'alpha' males willing to risk a big debt should be allowed to voice an opinion on a story about big debt, innit! D'you see the pattern forming? Hmmmf
  • Score: -1

4:03pm Thu 14 Aug 14

themoonraker says...

The Jockster wrote:
RogerJ1969 wrote:
The Adver is going to the dogs. Proper gutter press headline followed by a bit of speculation that is not helpful and smacks of a desperate 'reporter' out to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
Report fact by all means but do not try to destabilise the club.
So the FACTS are then that the club don't owe Plod £30k. And the Adver are totally wrong for reporting a non fact?
Strange logic there my boy particularly when both sides admit that there is a sum outstanding for police match cover.
You appear to be intent on rubbishing LP at every opportunity.
You appear to be a sanctimonious, self congratulating type of person who takes delight in saying 'told you so' (only one step forward from nan-nah de nah nah in the playground) imo.
You then prove both points quite clearly in this post, you prattle on about FACTS and then get it totally wrong.
FACT..nobody is saying that the club do not owe the Police
FACT..it is the amount that appearts to be in dispute
FACT..The adver does not know whether the amount quoted is right or wrong
FACT..The adver have trouble in getting anything right these days
FACT...Your continually negative and repetitive post against the club are frankly getting well past being boring.
FACT...You appear to enjoy raising and highlighting anything remotely bad/negative about STFC
FACT...You never have any sensible solution to any situation/problem
OPINION.....You are the worst type of ''supporter'' ( I use the term very loosely as I don't believe that you are ) whose sole aim in life seems to be to spread your vitriol and misery at every possible opportunity.
OPINION...You would probably delight in any demise of STFC just so that you can pompously brag on and on about how right you were, and how you would have done things differently.

How about a little bit of positivity and support from you for a change?...I won't hold my breath
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RogerJ1969[/bold] wrote: The Adver is going to the dogs. Proper gutter press headline followed by a bit of speculation that is not helpful and smacks of a desperate 'reporter' out to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Report fact by all means but do not try to destabilise the club.[/p][/quote]So the FACTS are then that the club don't owe Plod £30k. And the Adver are totally wrong for reporting a non fact? Strange logic there my boy particularly when both sides admit that there is a sum outstanding for police match cover.[/p][/quote]You appear to be intent on rubbishing LP at every opportunity. You appear to be a sanctimonious, self congratulating type of person who takes delight in saying 'told you so' (only one step forward from nan-nah de nah nah in the playground) imo. You then prove both points quite clearly in this post, you prattle on about FACTS and then get it totally wrong. FACT..nobody is saying that the club do not owe the Police FACT..it is the amount that appearts to be in dispute FACT..The adver does not know whether the amount quoted is right or wrong FACT..The adver have trouble in getting anything right these days FACT...Your continually negative and repetitive post against the club are frankly getting well past being boring. FACT...You appear to enjoy raising and highlighting anything remotely bad/negative about STFC FACT...You never have any sensible solution to any situation/problem OPINION.....You are the worst type of ''supporter'' ( I use the term very loosely as I don't believe that you are ) whose sole aim in life seems to be to spread your vitriol and misery at every possible opportunity. OPINION...You would probably delight in any demise of STFC just so that you can pompously brag on and on about how right you were, and how you would have done things differently. How about a little bit of positivity and support from you for a change?...I won't hold my breath themoonraker
  • Score: 3

4:16pm Thu 14 Aug 14

EastleazeRed says...

themoonraker wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
RogerJ1969 wrote:
The Adver is going to the dogs. Proper gutter press headline followed by a bit of speculation that is not helpful and smacks of a desperate 'reporter' out to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
Report fact by all means but do not try to destabilise the club.
So the FACTS are then that the club don't owe Plod £30k. And the Adver are totally wrong for reporting a non fact?
Strange logic there my boy particularly when both sides admit that there is a sum outstanding for police match cover.
You appear to be intent on rubbishing LP at every opportunity.
You appear to be a sanctimonious, self congratulating type of person who takes delight in saying 'told you so' (only one step forward from nan-nah de nah nah in the playground) imo.
You then prove both points quite clearly in this post, you prattle on about FACTS and then get it totally wrong.
FACT..nobody is saying that the club do not owe the Police
FACT..it is the amount that appearts to be in dispute
FACT..The adver does not know whether the amount quoted is right or wrong
FACT..The adver have trouble in getting anything right these days
FACT...Your continually negative and repetitive post against the club are frankly getting well past being boring.
FACT...You appear to enjoy raising and highlighting anything remotely bad/negative about STFC
FACT...You never have any sensible solution to any situation/problem
OPINION.....You are the worst type of ''supporter'' ( I use the term very loosely as I don't believe that you are ) whose sole aim in life seems to be to spread your vitriol and misery at every possible opportunity.
OPINION...You would probably delight in any demise of STFC just so that you can pompously brag on and on about how right you were, and how you would have done things differently.

How about a little bit of positivity and support from you for a change?...I won't hold my breath
To be fair he's just telling how it is , doesn't come across gloating to me . Think its bloody obvious that the new owner has as little money as the last owner , and a few people need to take off the rose coloured glasses and wake up and smell the coffee because without further investment administration is looming . No business can survive loosing the sort of money they are week in week out and not paying your bills is hardly an advertisement for future investors .
[quote][p][bold]themoonraker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RogerJ1969[/bold] wrote: The Adver is going to the dogs. Proper gutter press headline followed by a bit of speculation that is not helpful and smacks of a desperate 'reporter' out to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Report fact by all means but do not try to destabilise the club.[/p][/quote]So the FACTS are then that the club don't owe Plod £30k. And the Adver are totally wrong for reporting a non fact? Strange logic there my boy particularly when both sides admit that there is a sum outstanding for police match cover.[/p][/quote]You appear to be intent on rubbishing LP at every opportunity. You appear to be a sanctimonious, self congratulating type of person who takes delight in saying 'told you so' (only one step forward from nan-nah de nah nah in the playground) imo. You then prove both points quite clearly in this post, you prattle on about FACTS and then get it totally wrong. FACT..nobody is saying that the club do not owe the Police FACT..it is the amount that appearts to be in dispute FACT..The adver does not know whether the amount quoted is right or wrong FACT..The adver have trouble in getting anything right these days FACT...Your continually negative and repetitive post against the club are frankly getting well past being boring. FACT...You appear to enjoy raising and highlighting anything remotely bad/negative about STFC FACT...You never have any sensible solution to any situation/problem OPINION.....You are the worst type of ''supporter'' ( I use the term very loosely as I don't believe that you are ) whose sole aim in life seems to be to spread your vitriol and misery at every possible opportunity. OPINION...You would probably delight in any demise of STFC just so that you can pompously brag on and on about how right you were, and how you would have done things differently. How about a little bit of positivity and support from you for a change?...I won't hold my breath[/p][/quote]To be fair he's just telling how it is , doesn't come across gloating to me . Think its bloody obvious that the new owner has as little money as the last owner , and a few people need to take off the rose coloured glasses and wake up and smell the coffee because without further investment administration is looming . No business can survive loosing the sort of money they are week in week out and not paying your bills is hardly an advertisement for future investors . EastleazeRed
  • Score: -1

4:17pm Thu 14 Aug 14

The Jockster says...

redbythesea wrote:
The Jockster wrote:
I posted weeks ago that Plod were owed £20k and got derided for saying so. Now turns out it's 30k.
Happy clappers get real it. Has to be paid if not no games can go ahead and ask yourselves what happens to cash flow if that happens! Answer for those who still can't grasp the nettle? The club gets deeper into debt and more suppliers don't get paid starting a snowball effect. There is no suggestion from either side that the cost is being contested so there is only one solution -as the Adver said cough up LP!!
Only a true fan could sanctimoniously gloat, about having knowledge which is damaging to the football club. A true fan of a different club that is. But let's be honourable. Well done Jockstrap. You were correct !!
Redbythesea I wish I'd been wrong, I was told by a local media source (not the Adver obviously) a few weeks ago. If I am guilty of gloating it's only at the happy clappers in here who rubbished my information and when I turn out to be right like Fredi they like it even less. North Swindon red is spot on and anybody who thinks LP has got £5 more than Jed is deluded. I think all LP is doing ultimately is trying to recoup his investment and once he's done that he'll be off. He said himself he didn't know how long he'd be custodian for.
Some people really do need to wake up and smell the coffee.
[quote][p][bold]redbythesea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: I posted weeks ago that Plod were owed £20k and got derided for saying so. Now turns out it's 30k. Happy clappers get real it. Has to be paid if not no games can go ahead and ask yourselves what happens to cash flow if that happens! Answer for those who still can't grasp the nettle? The club gets deeper into debt and more suppliers don't get paid starting a snowball effect. There is no suggestion from either side that the cost is being contested so there is only one solution -as the Adver said cough up LP!![/p][/quote]Only a true fan could sanctimoniously gloat, about having knowledge which is damaging to the football club. A true fan of a different club that is. But let's be honourable. Well done Jockstrap. You were correct !![/p][/quote]Redbythesea I wish I'd been wrong, I was told by a local media source (not the Adver obviously) a few weeks ago. If I am guilty of gloating it's only at the happy clappers in here who rubbished my information and when I turn out to be right like Fredi they like it even less. North Swindon red is spot on and anybody who thinks LP has got £5 more than Jed is deluded. I think all LP is doing ultimately is trying to recoup his investment and once he's done that he'll be off. He said himself he didn't know how long he'd be custodian for. Some people really do need to wake up and smell the coffee. The Jockster
  • Score: -1

4:33pm Thu 14 Aug 14

The Jockster says...

Moonraker I don't want to be right but the FACTS are the club owes money to Plod. The amount is immaterial and the likelihood is there are other creditors waiting in the wings - why is the scoreboard and DR tannoy not working? Not paid the sparks maybe?
As eastleaze said if we can't pay our bills administration is the likely outcome. A grisly prospect I'd agree but a possibility nonetheless, and if we can't stage matches because of no police cover how the hell can we generate the revenue to pay the bills because as sure as eggs is eggs LP will say enough is enough I can't drip feed it anymore.
I was at Scunny and Luton and we've got off to a flyer -we all want it to continue but even you must surely see the warning signs and it's not the first time because Shah admitted that bills were outstanding last season.
All the good work currently being done on the pitch is currently being undermined by things like this going on off it.
So I'd say pay the bills keep up the footie standard and the gates will increase along with revenue. It's really not rocket science but if you can't stand the heat then get out of the kitchen eh!
Moonraker I don't want to be right but the FACTS are the club owes money to Plod. The amount is immaterial and the likelihood is there are other creditors waiting in the wings - why is the scoreboard and DR tannoy not working? Not paid the sparks maybe? As eastleaze said if we can't pay our bills administration is the likely outcome. A grisly prospect I'd agree but a possibility nonetheless, and if we can't stage matches because of no police cover how the hell can we generate the revenue to pay the bills because as sure as eggs is eggs LP will say enough is enough I can't drip feed it anymore. I was at Scunny and Luton and we've got off to a flyer -we all want it to continue but even you must surely see the warning signs and it's not the first time because Shah admitted that bills were outstanding last season. All the good work currently being done on the pitch is currently being undermined by things like this going on off it. So I'd say pay the bills keep up the footie standard and the gates will increase along with revenue. It's really not rocket science but if you can't stand the heat then get out of the kitchen eh! The Jockster
  • Score: -1

5:14pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Davidsyrett says...

The club isn't disputing it owns money to the police, probably feels the police bill is too steep and are negotiating, (£7,500 per game seems is well over the top for the last 4 games of the season)

Jock, if we were really in debt and administration looming, why wouldn't we sell a player or two?? Offers recently for Smith and Thommo brothers, surely if what you were saying is true, LP would grab the money to pay the debts?
The club isn't disputing it owns money to the police, probably feels the police bill is too steep and are negotiating, (£7,500 per game seems is well over the top for the last 4 games of the season) Jock, if we were really in debt and administration looming, why wouldn't we sell a player or two?? Offers recently for Smith and Thommo brothers, surely if what you were saying is true, LP would grab the money to pay the debts? Davidsyrett
  • Score: -1

5:44pm Thu 14 Aug 14

umpcah says...

The Jockster wrote:
Moonraker I don't want to be right but the FACTS are the club owes money to Plod. The amount is immaterial and the likelihood is there are other creditors waiting in the wings - why is the scoreboard and DR tannoy not working? Not paid the sparks maybe?
As eastleaze said if we can't pay our bills administration is the likely outcome. A grisly prospect I'd agree but a possibility nonetheless, and if we can't stage matches because of no police cover how the hell can we generate the revenue to pay the bills because as sure as eggs is eggs LP will say enough is enough I can't drip feed it anymore.
I was at Scunny and Luton and we've got off to a flyer -we all want it to continue but even you must surely see the warning signs and it's not the first time because Shah admitted that bills were outstanding last season.
All the good work currently being done on the pitch is currently being undermined by things like this going on off it.
So I'd say pay the bills keep up the footie standard and the gates will increase along with revenue. It's really not rocket science but if you can't stand the heat then get out of the kitchen eh!
" if you can't stand the heat then get out of the kitchen " . Coops himself may well be wondering how much hotter the CG kitchen is going to get ! There must be a few clubs admiring his team building on a shoestring by today`s standards and he would have little difficulty finding another acceptable position if ever he needs one.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: Moonraker I don't want to be right but the FACTS are the club owes money to Plod. The amount is immaterial and the likelihood is there are other creditors waiting in the wings - why is the scoreboard and DR tannoy not working? Not paid the sparks maybe? As eastleaze said if we can't pay our bills administration is the likely outcome. A grisly prospect I'd agree but a possibility nonetheless, and if we can't stage matches because of no police cover how the hell can we generate the revenue to pay the bills because as sure as eggs is eggs LP will say enough is enough I can't drip feed it anymore. I was at Scunny and Luton and we've got off to a flyer -we all want it to continue but even you must surely see the warning signs and it's not the first time because Shah admitted that bills were outstanding last season. All the good work currently being done on the pitch is currently being undermined by things like this going on off it. So I'd say pay the bills keep up the footie standard and the gates will increase along with revenue. It's really not rocket science but if you can't stand the heat then get out of the kitchen eh![/p][/quote]" if you can't stand the heat then get out of the kitchen " . Coops himself may well be wondering how much hotter the CG kitchen is going to get ! There must be a few clubs admiring his team building on a shoestring by today`s standards and he would have little difficulty finding another acceptable position if ever he needs one. umpcah
  • Score: -1

6:01pm Thu 14 Aug 14

The Jockster says...

David who's to say players still won't be sold ? You can bet if a half decent offer comes in for say Mass or Smithy, or both, and just for illustration purposes say it's in the range (750k - 1.5m) do t you think LP's trigger finger will be itching.
Who says they are negotiating over costs? I've not seen anything that categorically says what amount is at stake? You've just divided 30/4 How do you know that £7.5k per game is excessive? Some games may cost more to police than others.
Moonraker wants to deal in facts, fine, the fact is we owe plod an unknown sum of money believed to be in the region of £30k that is the fact and anything else is speculation.
David who's to say players still won't be sold ? You can bet if a half decent offer comes in for say Mass or Smithy, or both, and just for illustration purposes say it's in the range (750k - 1.5m) do t you think LP's trigger finger will be itching. Who says they are negotiating over costs? I've not seen anything that categorically says what amount is at stake? You've just divided 30/4 How do you know that £7.5k per game is excessive? Some games may cost more to police than others. Moonraker wants to deal in facts, fine, the fact is we owe plod an unknown sum of money believed to be in the region of £30k that is the fact and anything else is speculation. The Jockster
  • Score: -1

6:10pm Thu 14 Aug 14

The Jockster says...

Umps I was referring to LP rather than MC. I'd agree coops cv is looking quite good at present.
Umps I was referring to LP rather than MC. I'd agree coops cv is looking quite good at present. The Jockster
  • Score: -1

12:27pm Fri 15 Aug 14

A.Baron-Cohen says...

I cannot remember the last time I saw tennis fans being escorted by the police.......
I cannot remember the last time I saw tennis fans being escorted by the police....... A.Baron-Cohen
  • Score: 1

2:30pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Cooking_by_smoke_alarm says...

A.Baron-Cohen says...

I cannot remember the last time I saw tennis fans being escorted by the police.......

Must be part of 'Nasty's' entourage!
A.Baron-Cohen says... I cannot remember the last time I saw tennis fans being escorted by the police....... Must be part of 'Nasty's' entourage! Cooking_by_smoke_alarm
  • Score: -2

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