Cooper hits out at refereeing standards

Swindon Advertiser: Mark Cooper Mark Cooper

SWINDON Town manager Mark Cooper was left to lament the state of refereeing in the Football League after being frustrated by whistleblower Tim Robinson during his side’s 1-0 defeat to Oldham Athletic on Saturday.

Jonathan Grounds scored a 73rd-minute winner for Oldham, who came up against a lifeless Town outfit on a miserable afternoon at the County Ground. Though Cooper didn’t use what he branded an “awful” performance by Robinson as an excuse for the loss he did mention how disappointed he has been by the calibre of officiating this term, blasting a string of “sub-standard” displays from the men in black.

He said: “I thought the referee was very, very poor again – baffling decisions – but I’m not going to use that as an excuse. For both teams he was awful and it’s worrying.”

When pushed by the Advertiser to clarify what he meant by “worrying”, Cooper agreed that there has been a trend of unconvincing refereeing up and down the Football League.

“It’s worrying for me because there’s a blatant penalty on Michael Smith in the box. You’re not allowed to get your arms round somebody’s body and stop them getting the ball. That’s a penalty,” he said.

“In the first minute we had a corner and between them they can’t even get that right. I feel at the moment, and I’m not using it as an excuse, that the referees we’ve been getting are not good enough.

“It’s for both managers, both feeling that the refereeing is sub-standard. I don’t know whether it’s the training they’re getting, I couldn’t tell you.

“As soon as I say what I really think I get fined and get banned. The referees will think they’ve had a good game because the four of them will get together and tell each other how good they were and go home singing and dancing and not have a care in the world. There has to be something – in any other job, if you do something wrong you get punished.

“There has to be some sort of rule that if they’re so bad they can’t referee for two weeks or something like that. We give them ratings but if you give below a certain make you have to put in a massive report.”

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6:47am Mon 3 Feb 14

Wildwestener says...

I'd worry more about Town performances than referees; the latter have always been rubbish and there's little we can do about this. The performance of our own team is far more in our control.
I'd worry more about Town performances than referees; the latter have always been rubbish and there's little we can do about this. The performance of our own team is far more in our control. Wildwestener

6:54am Mon 3 Feb 14

birdieman says...

Oh grow up Cooper, you lost, your team in your words 'didn't want it as much.... was that the refs fault as well. Stop whining and get managing.
Oh grow up Cooper, you lost, your team in your words 'didn't want it as much.... was that the refs fault as well. Stop whining and get managing. birdieman

7:43am Mon 3 Feb 14

who am i says...

yea thats right cooper....there should also be some sort of punishment for under performing managers aswell, but then again just aswell there aint otherwise you would be right in the brown stuff. i have said it for a couple of months now and stick by what i said cooper just aint up to it he is the problem he is making our talented team look like average players.
yea thats right cooper....there should also be some sort of punishment for under performing managers aswell, but then again just aswell there aint otherwise you would be right in the brown stuff. i have said it for a couple of months now and stick by what i said cooper just aint up to it he is the problem he is making our talented team look like average players. who am i

7:43am Mon 3 Feb 14

stranglers says...

Wildwestener wrote:
I'd worry more about Town performances than referees; the latter have always been rubbish and there's little we can do about this. The performance of our own team is far more in our control.
I take your point but I believe that is exactly the problem, the performance of his team is not under his control.
[quote][p][bold]Wildwestener[/bold] wrote: I'd worry more about Town performances than referees; the latter have always been rubbish and there's little we can do about this. The performance of our own team is far more in our control.[/p][/quote]I take your point but I believe that is exactly the problem, the performance of his team is not under his control. stranglers

8:00am Mon 3 Feb 14

street2000 says...

Rubbish excuse. Ok the ref wasn't great, but we lost the game fair and square because we were rubbish.Not for any other reason.
Rubbish excuse. Ok the ref wasn't great, but we lost the game fair and square because we were rubbish.Not for any other reason. street2000

8:00am Mon 3 Feb 14

Wilesy says...

It balances out over the season. Until you get tv referees for every decision you will get human error. Some things though he can work on such as Pritchard who in Coopers own words on Fridays phone in said he's had 10 yellows but hasn't yet put in a tackle
It balances out over the season. Until you get tv referees for every decision you will get human error. Some things though he can work on such as Pritchard who in Coopers own words on Fridays phone in said he's had 10 yellows but hasn't yet put in a tackle Wilesy

8:41am Mon 3 Feb 14

LeGod says...

Yes the ref was poor and Smith did a perfectly tackle in the ofrst half and got booked for it but your not allowed to tackle hard otherwise it gets punished a pathetic ref but im afraid Cooper as most people have said it was your fault cooper making the wrong team selection from the start too many changes and you should have started with your strongest team to get a lead and then introduce frings players. Another **** up thinking because we were at home we would win. Oldham deservedly won and made their intentions right from the start they we were there for the taking and fair play to them they won the game and we never looked liked scoring with one shot on target all game it was pathetic.
A new full back who doesnt like over lapping, Barker non existent, playing one up front again, Bryne coudnt cross, passing was awful throughout, no pattern to our play at all.
Cant blame the ref even though like most of them this season have been poor.
Yes the ref was poor and Smith did a perfectly tackle in the ofrst half and got booked for it but your not allowed to tackle hard otherwise it gets punished a pathetic ref but im afraid Cooper as most people have said it was your fault cooper making the wrong team selection from the start too many changes and you should have started with your strongest team to get a lead and then introduce frings players. Another **** up thinking because we were at home we would win. Oldham deservedly won and made their intentions right from the start they we were there for the taking and fair play to them they won the game and we never looked liked scoring with one shot on target all game it was pathetic. A new full back who doesnt like over lapping, Barker non existent, playing one up front again, Bryne coudnt cross, passing was awful throughout, no pattern to our play at all. Cant blame the ref even though like most of them this season have been poor. LeGod

8:45am Mon 3 Feb 14

bradley red 1 says...

Mark Cooper= Andy King,Danny wilson,full book of excuses and look what happened to them,out of your depth.
Mark Cooper= Andy King,Danny wilson,full book of excuses and look what happened to them,out of your depth. bradley red 1

8:50am Mon 3 Feb 14

Robinonfire says...

Tactics or the Ref.

Can we send Cooper out on loan?
Tactics or the Ref. Can we send Cooper out on loan? Robinonfire

8:54am Mon 3 Feb 14

Old-Stager, Hilperton says...

I agree with Mark Cooper, that the standard of refereeing at the County Ground this season has been shocking.
It's about time the Refereeing fraternity carried out their assessments properly.
Well done Mark for having the guts to speak out, although he will probably be fined by the faceless authorities.
I agree with Mark Cooper, that the standard of refereeing at the County Ground this season has been shocking. It's about time the Refereeing fraternity carried out their assessments properly. Well done Mark for having the guts to speak out, although he will probably be fined by the faceless authorities. Old-Stager, Hilperton

9:08am Mon 3 Feb 14

stfc_tom says...

I think people need to get a grip. At the start of the season people were thinking after the upheaval of previous board; players leaving, wage budget slashed in half etc that we would be fighting relegation this season. The average age of our squad is something ridiculous like 21/22 with many of our players not having really played a league game before coming to STFC. The fact we are still just 5 points off play-offs with around 1/3 of a season remaining is testament to how well Cooper and his coaching staff have done in very difficult circumstances. At the start of the season many would have taken a mid-table finish, and a top 10 finish would have been an exceptional season in the circumstances and to some extent we have probably overachieved this season so far with such limited experience in our ranks. We have lost games this season through lack of experience and that's just how it is with such a young squad. We will loose more games this season for this very reason and that is not something within MC's control. He rested players for the JPT area final, fact. That is why he rested Ranger and Kasim. I think MC knows we're not likely to get play-offs and his priority is the JPT and getting a pay day at Wembley. To be honest chaps, we are a mid-table team and so in a way I understand this as a club like ours hasn't got buckets of cash and I can see the attraction for the board of having a pay day at Wembley. At the start of the season most would have taken a mid-table finish and that's what we're going to get. All is ok. Although I do think MC got Saturday wrong tactically - play 2 up top at home!
I think people need to get a grip. At the start of the season people were thinking after the upheaval of previous board; players leaving, wage budget slashed in half etc that we would be fighting relegation this season. The average age of our squad is something ridiculous like 21/22 with many of our players not having really played a league game before coming to STFC. The fact we are still just 5 points off play-offs with around 1/3 of a season remaining is testament to how well Cooper and his coaching staff have done in very difficult circumstances. At the start of the season many would have taken a mid-table finish, and a top 10 finish would have been an exceptional season in the circumstances and to some extent we have probably overachieved this season so far with such limited experience in our ranks. We have lost games this season through lack of experience and that's just how it is with such a young squad. We will loose more games this season for this very reason and that is not something within MC's control. He rested players for the JPT area final, fact. That is why he rested Ranger and Kasim. I think MC knows we're not likely to get play-offs and his priority is the JPT and getting a pay day at Wembley. To be honest chaps, we are a mid-table team and so in a way I understand this as a club like ours hasn't got buckets of cash and I can see the attraction for the board of having a pay day at Wembley. At the start of the season most would have taken a mid-table finish and that's what we're going to get. All is ok. Although I do think MC got Saturday wrong tactically - play 2 up top at home! stfc_tom

9:23am Mon 3 Feb 14

burley01rs says...

Smith was held all the time in the first half and the ref did not do a thing.
Smith was held all the time in the first half and the ref did not do a thing. burley01rs

9:27am Mon 3 Feb 14

bradley red 1 says...

Nathan Thompson thinks he is captain material...No way not yet,but says alot about the current squad of players.
Nathan Thompson thinks he is captain material...No way not yet,but says alot about the current squad of players. bradley red 1

9:31am Mon 3 Feb 14

Newshoes84 says...

Do some of you even read the article above before you comment? It clearly says that Cooper did not use the referees performance as an excuse. He is talking about the standard of the officials across the season for all the teams. As usual though some posters on here want any excuse to have a go at Cooper. Im not saying cooper didnt make mistakes on saturday but we are still performing above most peoples expectations.
Do some of you even read the article above before you comment? It clearly says that Cooper did not use the referees performance as an excuse. He is talking about the standard of the officials across the season for all the teams. As usual though some posters on here want any excuse to have a go at Cooper. Im not saying cooper didnt make mistakes on saturday but we are still performing above most peoples expectations. Newshoes84

9:35am Mon 3 Feb 14

Oldhamred says...

Oh the humiliation!!
I've been at work less than 30 minutes and I already want to go home.
Even the chuffing Man U fans are wearing Oldham Shirts.
I think I may have to sack the lot of them.
Oh the humiliation!! I've been at work less than 30 minutes and I already want to go home. Even the chuffing Man U fans are wearing Oldham Shirts. I think I may have to sack the lot of them. Oldhamred

9:44am Mon 3 Feb 14

Graham8181 says...

i can't see Cooper being here next season, he has no idea about tactics
i can't see Cooper being here next season, he has no idea about tactics Graham8181

9:52am Mon 3 Feb 14

LeGod says...

stfc tom - i agree we are not good enough to go up but if we had put the effort and desire in at Stevenage,Gillingham and on saturday and got 9 points against really poor sides we would be in the top 6. As for making money from the JPT we would make more money in the play offs two sell out semi finals and a final at wembley where the crowd would be twice the size of a JPT final last time out from memory only 47k when we played Chesterfield and more likely to be 70-80k for a play off final.
If you did a poll amongst fans i would say 95% would prefer to be in a play off final than a poxy JPT final. The rewards arent there for it and there is no prestige to it and most fans want their club out of it as early as possible. The problem is now players will have their eye on these games and the lague will come secondary and i am telling you now if we dont get our act together the teams lower down the league will be catching us up. Look at the fixtures coming up. Preston, Wolves,Brentford,Ori
ent,Port Vale im not optimistic about any of those games the way we are playing. We are out of form the manager is making the wrong selections we need another 5 wins to be safe and Stevenage, and Oldham should have been an additional 6 points for us but we got 0 Gillingham another poor side we should have at least got a point and we got 0 the only plus was getting a point at Walsall.
stfc tom - i agree we are not good enough to go up but if we had put the effort and desire in at Stevenage,Gillingham and on saturday and got 9 points against really poor sides we would be in the top 6. As for making money from the JPT we would make more money in the play offs two sell out semi finals and a final at wembley where the crowd would be twice the size of a JPT final last time out from memory only 47k when we played Chesterfield and more likely to be 70-80k for a play off final. If you did a poll amongst fans i would say 95% would prefer to be in a play off final than a poxy JPT final. The rewards arent there for it and there is no prestige to it and most fans want their club out of it as early as possible. The problem is now players will have their eye on these games and the lague will come secondary and i am telling you now if we dont get our act together the teams lower down the league will be catching us up. Look at the fixtures coming up. Preston, Wolves,Brentford,Ori ent,Port Vale im not optimistic about any of those games the way we are playing. We are out of form the manager is making the wrong selections we need another 5 wins to be safe and Stevenage, and Oldham should have been an additional 6 points for us but we got 0 Gillingham another poor side we should have at least got a point and we got 0 the only plus was getting a point at Walsall. LeGod

9:53am Mon 3 Feb 14

Wilesy says...

stfc_tom wrote:
I think people need to get a grip. At the start of the season people were thinking after the upheaval of previous board; players leaving, wage budget slashed in half etc that we would be fighting relegation this season. The average age of our squad is something ridiculous like 21/22 with many of our players not having really played a league game before coming to STFC. The fact we are still just 5 points off play-offs with around 1/3 of a season remaining is testament to how well Cooper and his coaching staff have done in very difficult circumstances. At the start of the season many would have taken a mid-table finish, and a top 10 finish would have been an exceptional season in the circumstances and to some extent we have probably overachieved this season so far with such limited experience in our ranks. We have lost games this season through lack of experience and that's just how it is with such a young squad. We will loose more games this season for this very reason and that is not something within MC's control. He rested players for the JPT area final, fact. That is why he rested Ranger and Kasim. I think MC knows we're not likely to get play-offs and his priority is the JPT and getting a pay day at Wembley. To be honest chaps, we are a mid-table team and so in a way I understand this as a club like ours hasn't got buckets of cash and I can see the attraction for the board of having a pay day at Wembley. At the start of the season most would have taken a mid-table finish and that's what we're going to get. All is ok. Although I do think MC got Saturday wrong tactically - play 2 up top at home!
I hear what you are saying and yes we have overachieved, but we haven't played very well for 2 months now and the young side excuse gets pulled out after every poor showing with little sign of learning from mistakes or putting things right tactically or through recruiting.

There's older experienced players on low wages we could have recruited but didn't, also the fringe players should be busting a gut when they get a chance but they don't. There's ways of losing and regardless of team selection the defeats recently are hard to stomach as we've lost more through lack of effort and that's what annoys me the most.

Di Canio would have needed a strait jacket and tranquilisers after Saturday's performance if that was under his watch, The rows behind the dug outs would have had to be evacuated as he'd have been destroying it and debris flying everywhere. Barker and Byrne would have been hauled off after 20 minutes. They'd all have been in on Sunday for extra training but you know you would see an improvement the following game.

Instead we get the same old excuses from Cooper, and I see no reason to think we won't get the same performance on Wednesday. Youth seems to be a convenient excuse to make yet we've had the whole of January to act on that and what do we get? More youth.
[quote][p][bold]stfc_tom[/bold] wrote: I think people need to get a grip. At the start of the season people were thinking after the upheaval of previous board; players leaving, wage budget slashed in half etc that we would be fighting relegation this season. The average age of our squad is something ridiculous like 21/22 with many of our players not having really played a league game before coming to STFC. The fact we are still just 5 points off play-offs with around 1/3 of a season remaining is testament to how well Cooper and his coaching staff have done in very difficult circumstances. At the start of the season many would have taken a mid-table finish, and a top 10 finish would have been an exceptional season in the circumstances and to some extent we have probably overachieved this season so far with such limited experience in our ranks. We have lost games this season through lack of experience and that's just how it is with such a young squad. We will loose more games this season for this very reason and that is not something within MC's control. He rested players for the JPT area final, fact. That is why he rested Ranger and Kasim. I think MC knows we're not likely to get play-offs and his priority is the JPT and getting a pay day at Wembley. To be honest chaps, we are a mid-table team and so in a way I understand this as a club like ours hasn't got buckets of cash and I can see the attraction for the board of having a pay day at Wembley. At the start of the season most would have taken a mid-table finish and that's what we're going to get. All is ok. Although I do think MC got Saturday wrong tactically - play 2 up top at home![/p][/quote]I hear what you are saying and yes we have overachieved, but we haven't played very well for 2 months now and the young side excuse gets pulled out after every poor showing with little sign of learning from mistakes or putting things right tactically or through recruiting. There's older experienced players on low wages we could have recruited but didn't, also the fringe players should be busting a gut when they get a chance but they don't. There's ways of losing and regardless of team selection the defeats recently are hard to stomach as we've lost more through lack of effort and that's what annoys me the most. Di Canio would have needed a strait jacket and tranquilisers after Saturday's performance if that was under his watch, The rows behind the dug outs would have had to be evacuated as he'd have been destroying it and debris flying everywhere. Barker and Byrne would have been hauled off after 20 minutes. They'd all have been in on Sunday for extra training but you know you would see an improvement the following game. Instead we get the same old excuses from Cooper, and I see no reason to think we won't get the same performance on Wednesday. Youth seems to be a convenient excuse to make yet we've had the whole of January to act on that and what do we get? More youth. Wilesy

9:53am Mon 3 Feb 14

gaz2612 says...

The team selection on Saturday was very poor. Why play Barker in preference to Nile Ranger?. Byrne was very poor, but still stayed on for the full 90 minutes. WHY??? Not sure what value Harley is, as he cannot even get the ball in the air. Where is Miles Storey, great impact player but not even on the bench?? Cooper can say the ref is poor, and I know he is not totally blaming him for the defeat, but it is a good job he was poor because he missed the blatant foul by Nathan Thompson in the area!!
Cooper does not seem to be able to make tactical substitutions when things are as poor as they were. Ward was having his best game for some time and is taken off. Troy played well and looked sharp, but the change had already been decided before the match?? Come on Cooper, sort it out, as we shall still all be there for the next game.
The team selection on Saturday was very poor. Why play Barker in preference to Nile Ranger?. Byrne was very poor, but still stayed on for the full 90 minutes. WHY??? Not sure what value Harley is, as he cannot even get the ball in the air. Where is Miles Storey, great impact player but not even on the bench?? Cooper can say the ref is poor, and I know he is not totally blaming him for the defeat, but it is a good job he was poor because he missed the blatant foul by Nathan Thompson in the area!! Cooper does not seem to be able to make tactical substitutions when things are as poor as they were. Ward was having his best game for some time and is taken off. Troy played well and looked sharp, but the change had already been decided before the match?? Come on Cooper, sort it out, as we shall still all be there for the next game. gaz2612

10:03am Mon 3 Feb 14

The Jockster says...

New shoes sorry but that's the point isn't it we're not exceeding expectations I don't think. As I suspected they would be our lightweights have been found out by the heavier pitches and leaving aside earlier awful performances away from home -e.g. Shrews, Preston, the recent showings at Crawley Stevenage and Walsall plus Saturday show that we are at best likely to finish mid table but with some better teams still to play the prospect of a relegation dogfight could still be on the cards.
New shoes sorry but that's the point isn't it we're not exceeding expectations I don't think. As I suspected they would be our lightweights have been found out by the heavier pitches and leaving aside earlier awful performances away from home -e.g. Shrews, Preston, the recent showings at Crawley Stevenage and Walsall plus Saturday show that we are at best likely to finish mid table but with some better teams still to play the prospect of a relegation dogfight could still be on the cards. The Jockster

10:22am Mon 3 Feb 14

Stilloyal says...

Yes there were some baffling decisions by
the ref and indeed the linesman. Troy's first yellow should have been a straight red and the second yellow was just a mere free kick no card warranted.

However this should not detract from the fact that this Swindon team is one of the worst I've seen in many years . O.K we DO have some half decent players however they ply without direction, leadership or motivation. We may as well not have a manager and I'd go so far as to say he's the worst since Ken Beamish, totally without a clue as far a tactics and motivation go.

We are stuck with Cooper though a we can't afford to get rid and replace him.

For those of you dreaming of play off's stop dreaming it isn't going to happen and we will do well to finis outside the bottom four mark my words We have been lucky with our results all season and now our luck is running out.
I am loyal to the club and also the team but definately not this manger , sorry !
Good luck on Wednesday.
Yes there were some baffling decisions by the ref and indeed the linesman. Troy's first yellow should have been a straight red and the second yellow was just a mere free kick no card warranted. However this should not detract from the fact that this Swindon team is one of the worst I've seen in many years . O.K we DO have some half decent players however they ply without direction, leadership or motivation. We may as well not have a manager and I'd go so far as to say he's the worst since Ken Beamish, totally without a clue as far a tactics and motivation go. We are stuck with Cooper though a we can't afford to get rid and replace him. For those of you dreaming of play off's stop dreaming it isn't going to happen and we will do well to finis outside the bottom four mark my words We have been lucky with our results all season and now our luck is running out. I am loyal to the club and also the team but definately not this manger , sorry ! Good luck on Wednesday. Stilloyal

10:23am Mon 3 Feb 14

hertz says...

Again agree with all the above , appears we are watching the same game , as for the refs well they can award a free kick with out actualy having to book the player , Troy is a big bloke and a bit awkward an by th way the best player on the park at te time IMHO but that is all it was it was'nt dangerous and there was no malice he went in hard and turned the player on his a**e he did'nt hurt him and there was no intent , but the game was already lost , On my other thread I mentioned Cooper thinks a Wembley final will be enough this year , but with some proper direction we could end in a play off position , we could get good revenue from the play offs , he is doing what he did at Darlington and we know where that ended , Maybe the team isn't good enough for Championship footie but you would have a darn good go at getting there . Also Mr Power I am sure it has'nt escaped your notice that the gate is dropping 250 every game now .
Again agree with all the above , appears we are watching the same game , as for the refs well they can award a free kick with out actualy having to book the player , Troy is a big bloke and a bit awkward an by th way the best player on the park at te time IMHO but that is all it was it was'nt dangerous and there was no malice he went in hard and turned the player on his a**e he did'nt hurt him and there was no intent , but the game was already lost , On my other thread I mentioned Cooper thinks a Wembley final will be enough this year , but with some proper direction we could end in a play off position , we could get good revenue from the play offs , he is doing what he did at Darlington and we know where that ended , Maybe the team isn't good enough for Championship footie but you would have a darn good go at getting there . Also Mr Power I am sure it has'nt escaped your notice that the gate is dropping 250 every game now . hertz

10:55am Mon 3 Feb 14

Davidsyrett says...

Stilloyal wrote:
Yes there were some baffling decisions by
the ref and indeed the linesman. Troy's first yellow should have been a straight red and the second yellow was just a mere free kick no card warranted.

However this should not detract from the fact that this Swindon team is one of the worst I've seen in many years . O.K we DO have some half decent players however they ply without direction, leadership or motivation. We may as well not have a manager and I'd go so far as to say he's the worst since Ken Beamish, totally without a clue as far a tactics and motivation go.

We are stuck with Cooper though a we can't afford to get rid and replace him.

For those of you dreaming of play off's stop dreaming it isn't going to happen and we will do well to finis outside the bottom four mark my words We have been lucky with our results all season and now our luck is running out.
I am loyal to the club and also the team but definately not this manger , sorry !
Good luck on Wednesday.
Ward's leadership is awful, really need a born leader, especially with a lot of youngsters out there.
[quote][p][bold]Stilloyal[/bold] wrote: Yes there were some baffling decisions by the ref and indeed the linesman. Troy's first yellow should have been a straight red and the second yellow was just a mere free kick no card warranted. However this should not detract from the fact that this Swindon team is one of the worst I've seen in many years . O.K we DO have some half decent players however they ply without direction, leadership or motivation. We may as well not have a manager and I'd go so far as to say he's the worst since Ken Beamish, totally without a clue as far a tactics and motivation go. We are stuck with Cooper though a we can't afford to get rid and replace him. For those of you dreaming of play off's stop dreaming it isn't going to happen and we will do well to finis outside the bottom four mark my words We have been lucky with our results all season and now our luck is running out. I am loyal to the club and also the team but definately not this manger , sorry ! Good luck on Wednesday.[/p][/quote]Ward's leadership is awful, really need a born leader, especially with a lot of youngsters out there. Davidsyrett

11:31am Mon 3 Feb 14

harley red says...

Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .
Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet . harley red

11:40am Mon 3 Feb 14

Davidsyrett says...

harley red wrote:
Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .
so who would you replace him with?
[quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .[/p][/quote]so who would you replace him with? Davidsyrett

11:47am Mon 3 Feb 14

the don69 says...

Come on Coops! thought you were better than that? your players were awful, your tactics were awful and our whole game-plan was awful, in fact the Ref had a much,much better game than you and your players did! so take it on the chin and B@llock yourself,Luke and worst of all our very poor players, we look forward to a very much better performance in the paint pot SORT IT!!!
Come on Coops! thought you were better than that? your players were awful, your tactics were awful and our whole game-plan was awful, in fact the Ref had a much,much better game than you and your players did! so take it on the chin and B@llock yourself,Luke and worst of all our very poor players, we look forward to a very much better performance in the paint pot SORT IT!!! the don69

12:10pm Mon 3 Feb 14

ShearerShearer says...

Wilesy wrote:
stfc_tom wrote: I think people need to get a grip. At the start of the season people were thinking after the upheaval of previous board; players leaving, wage budget slashed in half etc that we would be fighting relegation this season. The average age of our squad is something ridiculous like 21/22 with many of our players not having really played a league game before coming to STFC. The fact we are still just 5 points off play-offs with around 1/3 of a season remaining is testament to how well Cooper and his coaching staff have done in very difficult circumstances. At the start of the season many would have taken a mid-table finish, and a top 10 finish would have been an exceptional season in the circumstances and to some extent we have probably overachieved this season so far with such limited experience in our ranks. We have lost games this season through lack of experience and that's just how it is with such a young squad. We will loose more games this season for this very reason and that is not something within MC's control. He rested players for the JPT area final, fact. That is why he rested Ranger and Kasim. I think MC knows we're not likely to get play-offs and his priority is the JPT and getting a pay day at Wembley. To be honest chaps, we are a mid-table team and so in a way I understand this as a club like ours hasn't got buckets of cash and I can see the attraction for the board of having a pay day at Wembley. At the start of the season most would have taken a mid-table finish and that's what we're going to get. All is ok. Although I do think MC got Saturday wrong tactically - play 2 up top at home!
I hear what you are saying and yes we have overachieved, but we haven't played very well for 2 months now and the young side excuse gets pulled out after every poor showing with little sign of learning from mistakes or putting things right tactically or through recruiting. There's older experienced players on low wages we could have recruited but didn't, also the fringe players should be busting a gut when they get a chance but they don't. There's ways of losing and regardless of team selection the defeats recently are hard to stomach as we've lost more through lack of effort and that's what annoys me the most. Di Canio would have needed a strait jacket and tranquilisers after Saturday's performance if that was under his watch, The rows behind the dug outs would have had to be evacuated as he'd have been destroying it and debris flying everywhere. Barker and Byrne would have been hauled off after 20 minutes. They'd all have been in on Sunday for extra training but you know you would see an improvement the following game. Instead we get the same old excuses from Cooper, and I see no reason to think we won't get the same performance on Wednesday. Youth seems to be a convenient excuse to make yet we've had the whole of January to act on that and what do we get? More youth.
"Di Canio would have needed a strait jacket and tranquilisers after Saturday's performance if that was under his watch, The rows behind the dug outs would have had to be evacuated as he'd have been destroying it and debris flying everywhere. Barker and Byrne would have been hauled off after 20 minutes. They'd all have been in on Sunday for extra training but you know you would see an improvement the following game."

pmsl
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfc_tom[/bold] wrote: I think people need to get a grip. At the start of the season people were thinking after the upheaval of previous board; players leaving, wage budget slashed in half etc that we would be fighting relegation this season. The average age of our squad is something ridiculous like 21/22 with many of our players not having really played a league game before coming to STFC. The fact we are still just 5 points off play-offs with around 1/3 of a season remaining is testament to how well Cooper and his coaching staff have done in very difficult circumstances. At the start of the season many would have taken a mid-table finish, and a top 10 finish would have been an exceptional season in the circumstances and to some extent we have probably overachieved this season so far with such limited experience in our ranks. We have lost games this season through lack of experience and that's just how it is with such a young squad. We will loose more games this season for this very reason and that is not something within MC's control. He rested players for the JPT area final, fact. That is why he rested Ranger and Kasim. I think MC knows we're not likely to get play-offs and his priority is the JPT and getting a pay day at Wembley. To be honest chaps, we are a mid-table team and so in a way I understand this as a club like ours hasn't got buckets of cash and I can see the attraction for the board of having a pay day at Wembley. At the start of the season most would have taken a mid-table finish and that's what we're going to get. All is ok. Although I do think MC got Saturday wrong tactically - play 2 up top at home![/p][/quote]I hear what you are saying and yes we have overachieved, but we haven't played very well for 2 months now and the young side excuse gets pulled out after every poor showing with little sign of learning from mistakes or putting things right tactically or through recruiting. There's older experienced players on low wages we could have recruited but didn't, also the fringe players should be busting a gut when they get a chance but they don't. There's ways of losing and regardless of team selection the defeats recently are hard to stomach as we've lost more through lack of effort and that's what annoys me the most. Di Canio would have needed a strait jacket and tranquilisers after Saturday's performance if that was under his watch, The rows behind the dug outs would have had to be evacuated as he'd have been destroying it and debris flying everywhere. Barker and Byrne would have been hauled off after 20 minutes. They'd all have been in on Sunday for extra training but you know you would see an improvement the following game. Instead we get the same old excuses from Cooper, and I see no reason to think we won't get the same performance on Wednesday. Youth seems to be a convenient excuse to make yet we've had the whole of January to act on that and what do we get? More youth.[/p][/quote]"Di Canio would have needed a strait jacket and tranquilisers after Saturday's performance if that was under his watch, The rows behind the dug outs would have had to be evacuated as he'd have been destroying it and debris flying everywhere. Barker and Byrne would have been hauled off after 20 minutes. They'd all have been in on Sunday for extra training but you know you would see an improvement the following game." pmsl ShearerShearer

12:13pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Oxon-Red says...

Interesting that we can criticise referees but when a manager complains...

Not going to advocate 442, 532, 343, 352 I'll leave that to the manager but I did feel we needed someone close to Smith in the first half. Both Byrne and Barker played incredibly wide and the 3 in midfield were outnumbered by the 4 which resulted in the ball returning from whence it came most of the time.

Not sure about the "resting" of Ward, I don't think this was the real reason for the substitution. I believe the real reason was to see how Troy played in a competitive match. Maybe he should have started but I was quite pleased with what I saw, it's just a shame he had the rush of blood.

COYMR
Interesting that we can criticise referees but when a manager complains... Not going to advocate 442, 532, 343, 352 I'll leave that to the manager but I did feel we needed someone close to Smith in the first half. Both Byrne and Barker played incredibly wide and the 3 in midfield were outnumbered by the 4 which resulted in the ball returning from whence it came most of the time. Not sure about the "resting" of Ward, I don't think this was the real reason for the substitution. I believe the real reason was to see how Troy played in a competitive match. Maybe he should have started but I was quite pleased with what I saw, it's just a shame he had the rush of blood. COYMR Oxon-Red

12:27pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Swindon1984 says...

The Jockster wrote:
New shoes sorry but that's the point isn't it we're not exceeding expectations I don't think. As I suspected they would be our lightweights have been found out by the heavier pitches and leaving aside earlier awful performances away from home -e.g. Shrews, Preston, the recent showings at Crawley Stevenage and Walsall plus Saturday show that we are at best likely to finish mid table but with some better teams still to play the prospect of a relegation dogfight could still be on the cards.
Aside from our position in the table which isn't bad I would say one thing - my "expectation" is when I go to a match and support the team the players bother to turn up and play with at least a modicum of enthusiasm. We've been relatively poor but won at home recently, and though poor showed some bottle especially against Coventry/Peterboroug
h in holding out for the wins. We showed no character or effort on Saturday really, and regardless of the ref, got exactly what we deserved i.e. naff all.

That's what really grates - I could take losing and losing to a poor side even, but expect us to at least put the effort in. They really need to restore some pride on Wednesday if the game goes ahead.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: New shoes sorry but that's the point isn't it we're not exceeding expectations I don't think. As I suspected they would be our lightweights have been found out by the heavier pitches and leaving aside earlier awful performances away from home -e.g. Shrews, Preston, the recent showings at Crawley Stevenage and Walsall plus Saturday show that we are at best likely to finish mid table but with some better teams still to play the prospect of a relegation dogfight could still be on the cards.[/p][/quote]Aside from our position in the table which isn't bad I would say one thing - my "expectation" is when I go to a match and support the team the players bother to turn up and play with at least a modicum of enthusiasm. We've been relatively poor but won at home recently, and though poor showed some bottle especially against Coventry/Peterboroug h in holding out for the wins. We showed no character or effort on Saturday really, and regardless of the ref, got exactly what we deserved i.e. naff all. That's what really grates - I could take losing and losing to a poor side even, but expect us to at least put the effort in. They really need to restore some pride on Wednesday if the game goes ahead. Swindon1984

12:34pm Mon 3 Feb 14

The Jockster says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
harley red wrote:
Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .
so who would you replace him with?
DS I don't think it's a question of who we'd like to replace Coops - I'd like Pelligrinio on current form but we're stuck with him and most are still backing him because it is Hobson's choice.
That does not mean we can't question his tactics and his thinking does it? He seems to have this inbuilt almost tunnel vision that we must play the passing game from the back at all times. By doing this he is surely not accounting for heavier pitches that will sap the strength of our lightweights and realising that more teams are sussing us out therefore we need to mix it up. We have to use Smith & Ranger's height and ball hold up skills to our advantage surely?
I don't want to patronise you but I just get a flavour that you don't like people having a pop at Cooper for any reason but I may well be wrong. Cheers.
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .[/p][/quote]so who would you replace him with?[/p][/quote]DS I don't think it's a question of who we'd like to replace Coops - I'd like Pelligrinio on current form but we're stuck with him and most are still backing him because it is Hobson's choice. That does not mean we can't question his tactics and his thinking does it? He seems to have this inbuilt almost tunnel vision that we must play the passing game from the back at all times. By doing this he is surely not accounting for heavier pitches that will sap the strength of our lightweights and realising that more teams are sussing us out therefore we need to mix it up. We have to use Smith & Ranger's height and ball hold up skills to our advantage surely? I don't want to patronise you but I just get a flavour that you don't like people having a pop at Cooper for any reason but I may well be wrong. Cheers. The Jockster

12:48pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Davidsyrett says...

The Jockster wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
harley red wrote:
Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .
so who would you replace him with?
DS I don't think it's a question of who we'd like to replace Coops - I'd like Pelligrinio on current form but we're stuck with him and most are still backing him because it is Hobson's choice.
That does not mean we can't question his tactics and his thinking does it? He seems to have this inbuilt almost tunnel vision that we must play the passing game from the back at all times. By doing this he is surely not accounting for heavier pitches that will sap the strength of our lightweights and realising that more teams are sussing us out therefore we need to mix it up. We have to use Smith & Ranger's height and ball hold up skills to our advantage surely?
I don't want to patronise you but I just get a flavour that you don't like people having a pop at Cooper for any reason but I may well be wrong. Cheers.
It's OK Jock, I have no issues with people having ago at Cooper, after saturdays debacle, I did as well, as soon as I saw the team I knew we were in problems.

I agree, we need at times a change of tactics, especially as you say with the difficult conditions, but certain posters just jump on Coopers back as soon as we have a loss and do not seem to be looking at the bigger picture. Cooper was given the managers post because he was a relatively cheap option, in truth all we could afford at the time, I always viewed this season as a consolidation one after the upheavals of last season and I think Cooper has done a good job with the resources he has at his disposal.

I do think that if Power really is true to his word and wants championship football that Cooper will go in the summer, but I think this season we had no other real alternatives, hence my original question.
[quote][p][bold]The Jockster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .[/p][/quote]so who would you replace him with?[/p][/quote]DS I don't think it's a question of who we'd like to replace Coops - I'd like Pelligrinio on current form but we're stuck with him and most are still backing him because it is Hobson's choice. That does not mean we can't question his tactics and his thinking does it? He seems to have this inbuilt almost tunnel vision that we must play the passing game from the back at all times. By doing this he is surely not accounting for heavier pitches that will sap the strength of our lightweights and realising that more teams are sussing us out therefore we need to mix it up. We have to use Smith & Ranger's height and ball hold up skills to our advantage surely? I don't want to patronise you but I just get a flavour that you don't like people having a pop at Cooper for any reason but I may well be wrong. Cheers.[/p][/quote]It's OK Jock, I have no issues with people having ago at Cooper, after saturdays debacle, I did as well, as soon as I saw the team I knew we were in problems. I agree, we need at times a change of tactics, especially as you say with the difficult conditions, but certain posters just jump on Coopers back as soon as we have a loss and do not seem to be looking at the bigger picture. Cooper was given the managers post because he was a relatively cheap option, in truth all we could afford at the time, I always viewed this season as a consolidation one after the upheavals of last season and I think Cooper has done a good job with the resources he has at his disposal. I do think that if Power really is true to his word and wants championship football that Cooper will go in the summer, but I think this season we had no other real alternatives, hence my original question. Davidsyrett

12:53pm Mon 3 Feb 14

The Jockster says...

DS & 84 don't disagree with any of that.
DS & 84 don't disagree with any of that. The Jockster

1:25pm Mon 3 Feb 14

old town robin says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
harley red wrote:
Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .
so who would you replace him with?
As Hartley said their is next to know chance of Cooper getting the boot any time soon so your question of who would replace him is a bit hypothetical.

I think a more logical question would be what kind of manager would fans like to be in charge. A manager that ticks all the boxes is like gold dust, I'm not saying Cooper doesn't have some good points and whether he or Luke would make a better number two may be debatable, but for starters here are some of the key points I believe a good manager would have on his CV

Track record of getting teams promoted
Man management skills
Tactical nous
Good contacts in the game
Motivator

You could probably add a few more to that David, but someone like Gary Johnson comes close to these qualities even if his team is bottom of the Championship
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .[/p][/quote]so who would you replace him with?[/p][/quote]As Hartley said their is next to know chance of Cooper getting the boot any time soon so your question of who would replace him is a bit hypothetical. I think a more logical question would be what kind of manager would fans like to be in charge. A manager that ticks all the boxes is like gold dust, I'm not saying Cooper doesn't have some good points and whether he or Luke would make a better number two may be debatable, but for starters here are some of the key points I believe a good manager would have on his CV Track record of getting teams promoted Man management skills Tactical nous Good contacts in the game Motivator You could probably add a few more to that David, but someone like Gary Johnson comes close to these qualities even if his team is bottom of the Championship old town robin

1:26pm Mon 3 Feb 14

red white says...

While we are at it Coops,what about the level of vocal support on Saturday?

Was that up to it?

That is our job and we can help win games just by singing.

Anyone hear the Palace at the Arse yesterday?
They didn't get anywhere but they are miles ahead of any club for vocal support,home and away.
While we are at it Coops,what about the level of vocal support on Saturday? Was that up to it? That is our job and we can help win games just by singing. Anyone hear the Palace at the Arse yesterday? They didn't get anywhere but they are miles ahead of any club for vocal support,home and away. red white

1:37pm Mon 3 Feb 14

the wizard says...

Find it hard not to comment under the circumstances.
We all know about what has gone on and to the why's and where fores of what/where we are,what we are and so on.
Well Mr Cooper, do you not realize that all of the other managers in L1 also have to suffer the same guys that pose as referees, the very same ones. The answer lays in leadership on and off the field, and to that end it lays at your feet to put out a side that will be effective in attack and defence, with tactics tailored around our players and who they are against. Perhaps its time for Cooper and Power to decide who does what, and to have on board players that want to wear the shirt rather than just play a game to get experience and games for games sake under their belt.. Supporters confidence is slipping away, even though we all accepted this was going to be a difficult season. NO, we are not doing so bad on points, but lets not kid ourselves of late our performances have been very lacking in skill, application and true commitment. The players need inspiration, and that is not happening. We should be scoring enough goals of our own rather than bemoan the penalties not given, the results should not be dependent on ref hand outs, especially at home. Starting to look like the old Wilson malaise has crept back in, nobody cares as we are all but safe for this season. Sorry for the rant, I'll go back down my burrow now.
Find it hard not to comment under the circumstances. We all know about what has gone on and to the why's and where fores of what/where we are,what we are and so on. Well Mr Cooper, do you not realize that all of the other managers in L1 also have to suffer the same guys that pose as referees, the very same ones. The answer lays in leadership on and off the field, and to that end it lays at your feet to put out a side that will be effective in attack and defence, with tactics tailored around our players and who they are against. Perhaps its time for Cooper and Power to decide who does what, and to have on board players that want to wear the shirt rather than just play a game to get experience and games for games sake under their belt.. Supporters confidence is slipping away, even though we all accepted this was going to be a difficult season. NO, we are not doing so bad on points, but lets not kid ourselves of late our performances have been very lacking in skill, application and true commitment. The players need inspiration, and that is not happening. We should be scoring enough goals of our own rather than bemoan the penalties not given, the results should not be dependent on ref hand outs, especially at home. Starting to look like the old Wilson malaise has crept back in, nobody cares as we are all but safe for this season. Sorry for the rant, I'll go back down my burrow now. the wizard

1:45pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Steve. Brentford says...

Lets get to 46 points ASAP, then have a summer of hopes and dreams before its to reality...
Im a Swindon fan for life but i dont blame anyone for that, we all got dealt the same hand as Town fans and with that comes the need to have someone to blame when things are rough.
A message for those who are already calling for Coopers head, save your breath we will not be changing our coach. for a start very few would take the job,and we will definatly not be paying any compo out.
We are what we are and that equates to a mid table Div 3 club, this is still a rollercoaster ride only with less high peaks to worry those with height fears...
Lets get to 46 points ASAP, then have a summer of hopes and dreams before its to reality... Im a Swindon fan for life but i dont blame anyone for that, we all got dealt the same hand as Town fans and with that comes the need to have someone to blame when things are rough. A message for those who are already calling for Coopers head, save your breath we will not be changing our coach. for a start very few would take the job,and we will definatly not be paying any compo out. We are what we are and that equates to a mid table Div 3 club, this is still a rollercoaster ride only with less high peaks to worry those with height fears... Steve. Brentford

1:55pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Steve. Brentford says...

Back to reality
Back to reality Steve. Brentford

2:10pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Davidsyrett says...

old town robin wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
harley red wrote:
Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .
so who would you replace him with?
As Hartley said their is next to know chance of Cooper getting the boot any time soon so your question of who would replace him is a bit hypothetical.

I think a more logical question would be what kind of manager would fans like to be in charge. A manager that ticks all the boxes is like gold dust, I'm not saying Cooper doesn't have some good points and whether he or Luke would make a better number two may be debatable, but for starters here are some of the key points I believe a good manager would have on his CV

Track record of getting teams promoted
Man management skills
Tactical nous
Good contacts in the game
Motivator

You could probably add a few more to that David, but someone like Gary Johnson comes close to these qualities even if his team is bottom of the Championship
As I said above I think Power will get in a new manager if he really is ambitious, possibly moving Cooper back to assistant. I'm not sure about Johnson, only ever done it with Yeovil,

In the last 30 years or so, our only really successful managers have been former players taking on their first managerial task, I would like this to be the road we go down again, whether we like it or not it's far easier to get players to come here with a "Name" manager than without, I would be looking for someone who is about to retire from the premiership at the end off the season and is looking for a challenge. No doubt a certain person would look at Kevin Phillips, but a respected player with his experience would go down well.
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .[/p][/quote]so who would you replace him with?[/p][/quote]As Hartley said their is next to know chance of Cooper getting the boot any time soon so your question of who would replace him is a bit hypothetical. I think a more logical question would be what kind of manager would fans like to be in charge. A manager that ticks all the boxes is like gold dust, I'm not saying Cooper doesn't have some good points and whether he or Luke would make a better number two may be debatable, but for starters here are some of the key points I believe a good manager would have on his CV Track record of getting teams promoted Man management skills Tactical nous Good contacts in the game Motivator You could probably add a few more to that David, but someone like Gary Johnson comes close to these qualities even if his team is bottom of the Championship[/p][/quote]As I said above I think Power will get in a new manager if he really is ambitious, possibly moving Cooper back to assistant. I'm not sure about Johnson, only ever done it with Yeovil, In the last 30 years or so, our only really successful managers have been former players taking on their first managerial task, I would like this to be the road we go down again, whether we like it or not it's far easier to get players to come here with a "Name" manager than without, I would be looking for someone who is about to retire from the premiership at the end off the season and is looking for a challenge. No doubt a certain person would look at Kevin Phillips, but a respected player with his experience would go down well. Davidsyrett

2:16pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Rebel_phish says...

Oldhamred wrote:
Oh the humiliation!!
I've been at work less than 30 minutes and I already want to go home.
Even the chuffing Man U fans are wearing Oldham Shirts.
I think I may have to sack the lot of them.
Just to pour more misery onto you Oldham, you didn't fare too well in the Predictions League either. What did you expect? Going for a 5-0 home win indeed.

Mind you, you are in good company.
[quote][p][bold]Oldhamred[/bold] wrote: Oh the humiliation!! I've been at work less than 30 minutes and I already want to go home. Even the chuffing Man U fans are wearing Oldham Shirts. I think I may have to sack the lot of them.[/p][/quote]Just to pour more misery onto you Oldham, you didn't fare too well in the Predictions League either. What did you expect? Going for a 5-0 home win indeed. Mind you, you are in good company. Rebel_phish

2:20pm Mon 3 Feb 14

stfcflag says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
Lets get to 46 points ASAP, then have a summer of hopes and dreams before its to reality...
Im a Swindon fan for life but i dont blame anyone for that, we all got dealt the same hand as Town fans and with that comes the need to have someone to blame when things are rough.
A message for those who are already calling for Coopers head, save your breath we will not be changing our coach. for a start very few would take the job,and we will definatly not be paying any compo out.
We are what we are and that equates to a mid table Div 3 club, this is still a rollercoaster ride only with less high peaks to worry those with height fears...
We had lots of applications for the role and always would have, whether you rate cooper or not he's certainly not our only choice!

As for a division 3 club I disagree, we have a set of loyal fans and a set of fans who drift in and out of supporting our club as and when it's entertaining to watch. We proved last year that if we entertain and perform the attendances rise, and so did our performances

The one thing I can say about this year is that it's certainly not entertaining! I'll be buying my season ticket next year as I always do but the football at the minute stinks ! We have far better players than the football we're playing, just wish somebody could draw it out of them ...
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: Lets get to 46 points ASAP, then have a summer of hopes and dreams before its to reality... Im a Swindon fan for life but i dont blame anyone for that, we all got dealt the same hand as Town fans and with that comes the need to have someone to blame when things are rough. A message for those who are already calling for Coopers head, save your breath we will not be changing our coach. for a start very few would take the job,and we will definatly not be paying any compo out. We are what we are and that equates to a mid table Div 3 club, this is still a rollercoaster ride only with less high peaks to worry those with height fears...[/p][/quote]We had lots of applications for the role and always would have, whether you rate cooper or not he's certainly not our only choice! As for a division 3 club I disagree, we have a set of loyal fans and a set of fans who drift in and out of supporting our club as and when it's entertaining to watch. We proved last year that if we entertain and perform the attendances rise, and so did our performances The one thing I can say about this year is that it's certainly not entertaining! I'll be buying my season ticket next year as I always do but the football at the minute stinks ! We have far better players than the football we're playing, just wish somebody could draw it out of them ... stfcflag

2:24pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Oxon-Red says...

old town robin wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
harley red wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .
so who would you replace him with?
As Hartley said their is next to know chance of Cooper getting the boot any time soon so your question of who would replace him is a bit hypothetical. I think a more logical question would be what kind of manager would fans like to be in charge. A manager that ticks all the boxes is like gold dust, I'm not saying Cooper doesn't have some good points and whether he or Luke would make a better number two may be debatable, but for starters here are some of the key points I believe a good manager would have on his CV Track record of getting teams promoted Man management skills Tactical nous Good contacts in the game Motivator You could probably add a few more to that David, but someone like Gary Johnson comes close to these qualities even if his team is bottom of the Championship
As identified, Johnson has had success at one club.

Good list of attributes but can you name someone that fits the bill that is currently unattached ?

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .[/p][/quote]so who would you replace him with?[/p][/quote]As Hartley said their is next to know chance of Cooper getting the boot any time soon so your question of who would replace him is a bit hypothetical. I think a more logical question would be what kind of manager would fans like to be in charge. A manager that ticks all the boxes is like gold dust, I'm not saying Cooper doesn't have some good points and whether he or Luke would make a better number two may be debatable, but for starters here are some of the key points I believe a good manager would have on his CV Track record of getting teams promoted Man management skills Tactical nous Good contacts in the game Motivator You could probably add a few more to that David, but someone like Gary Johnson comes close to these qualities even if his team is bottom of the Championship[/p][/quote]As identified, Johnson has had success at one club. Good list of attributes but can you name someone that fits the bill that is currently unattached ? COYMR Oxon-Red

2:36pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Bassett Hound says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
harley red wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .
so who would you replace him with?
As Hartley said their is next to know chance of Cooper getting the boot any time soon so your question of who would replace him is a bit hypothetical. I think a more logical question would be what kind of manager would fans like to be in charge. A manager that ticks all the boxes is like gold dust, I'm not saying Cooper doesn't have some good points and whether he or Luke would make a better number two may be debatable, but for starters here are some of the key points I believe a good manager would have on his CV Track record of getting teams promoted Man management skills Tactical nous Good contacts in the game Motivator You could probably add a few more to that David, but someone like Gary Johnson comes close to these qualities even if his team is bottom of the Championship
As identified, Johnson has had success at one club.

Good list of attributes but can you name someone that fits the bill that is currently unattached ?

COYMR
Gary Johnson has taken 2 sides to the Championship Yeovil and Bristol City.
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .[/p][/quote]so who would you replace him with?[/p][/quote]As Hartley said their is next to know chance of Cooper getting the boot any time soon so your question of who would replace him is a bit hypothetical. I think a more logical question would be what kind of manager would fans like to be in charge. A manager that ticks all the boxes is like gold dust, I'm not saying Cooper doesn't have some good points and whether he or Luke would make a better number two may be debatable, but for starters here are some of the key points I believe a good manager would have on his CV Track record of getting teams promoted Man management skills Tactical nous Good contacts in the game Motivator You could probably add a few more to that David, but someone like Gary Johnson comes close to these qualities even if his team is bottom of the Championship[/p][/quote]As identified, Johnson has had success at one club. Good list of attributes but can you name someone that fits the bill that is currently unattached ? COYMR[/p][/quote]Gary Johnson has taken 2 sides to the Championship Yeovil and Bristol City. Bassett Hound

3:04pm Mon 3 Feb 14

the don69 says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
Lets get to 46 points ASAP, then have a summer of hopes and dreams before its to reality...
Im a Swindon fan for life but i dont blame anyone for that, we all got dealt the same hand as Town fans and with that comes the need to have someone to blame when things are rough.
A message for those who are already calling for Coopers head, save your breath we will not be changing our coach. for a start very few would take the job,and we will definatly not be paying any compo out.
We are what we are and that equates to a mid table Div 3 club, this is still a rollercoaster ride only with less high peaks to worry those with height fears...
Cheer up Steve,sounds like you need a drink or a spot of fishing or indeed both? oh and just to cheer you up a bit more! we'll need a few more than 46 points to stay up lol!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: Lets get to 46 points ASAP, then have a summer of hopes and dreams before its to reality... Im a Swindon fan for life but i dont blame anyone for that, we all got dealt the same hand as Town fans and with that comes the need to have someone to blame when things are rough. A message for those who are already calling for Coopers head, save your breath we will not be changing our coach. for a start very few would take the job,and we will definatly not be paying any compo out. We are what we are and that equates to a mid table Div 3 club, this is still a rollercoaster ride only with less high peaks to worry those with height fears...[/p][/quote]Cheer up Steve,sounds like you need a drink or a spot of fishing or indeed both? oh and just to cheer you up a bit more! we'll need a few more than 46 points to stay up lol!!!!!!! the don69

3:11pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Steve. Brentford says...

stfcflag wrote:
Steve. Brentford wrote:
Lets get to 46 points ASAP, then have a summer of hopes and dreams before its to reality...
Im a Swindon fan for life but i dont blame anyone for that, we all got dealt the same hand as Town fans and with that comes the need to have someone to blame when things are rough.
A message for those who are already calling for Coopers head, save your breath we will not be changing our coach. for a start very few would take the job,and we will definatly not be paying any compo out.
We are what we are and that equates to a mid table Div 3 club, this is still a rollercoaster ride only with less high peaks to worry those with height fears...
We had lots of applications for the role and always would have, whether you rate cooper or not he's certainly not our only choice!

As for a division 3 club I disagree, we have a set of loyal fans and a set of fans who drift in and out of supporting our club as and when it's entertaining to watch. We proved last year that if we entertain and perform the attendances rise, and so did our performances

The one thing I can say about this year is that it's certainly not entertaining! I'll be buying my season ticket next year as I always do but the football at the minute stinks ! We have far better players than the football we're playing, just wish somebody could draw it out of them ...
Hi Flag, i agree we had lots of others who applied last time however Cooper wasnt first choice, others were offered the job but for whatever reasons never took it on.
When STFC got a hold on me and made me a Swindon fan we were roughly in the same position as we are now, yes we have moved up and down slightly,weve been lucky enough to have been part of a fantastic flirtation with the big boys but what i was saying is we are what we are and facts dont lie,
I algree also that last year we were entertained and the attendencies went up albeit not enough to cover money spent to produce that entertainment.
Lastly and not wanting to sound patronizing but it`s thanks to our set of loyal fans( yourself included) that we have been able to maintain our status as a league team but unfortunatly we dont have enough to move on substainable to the next level.
I have always dreamed of my club winning this or winning that as im sure almost all of our fans have and i shall no doubt do that again so i dont want to rubbish anyones hopes and aspirations when it`s to do with STFC however sometimes we do have to except that " we are as what we are" .
enjoy the rest of the season stfcflag and hopefully our style will improve and the entertainment will return and we will all be itching to get back to the football come August.
[quote][p][bold]stfcflag[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: Lets get to 46 points ASAP, then have a summer of hopes and dreams before its to reality... Im a Swindon fan for life but i dont blame anyone for that, we all got dealt the same hand as Town fans and with that comes the need to have someone to blame when things are rough. A message for those who are already calling for Coopers head, save your breath we will not be changing our coach. for a start very few would take the job,and we will definatly not be paying any compo out. We are what we are and that equates to a mid table Div 3 club, this is still a rollercoaster ride only with less high peaks to worry those with height fears...[/p][/quote]We had lots of applications for the role and always would have, whether you rate cooper or not he's certainly not our only choice! As for a division 3 club I disagree, we have a set of loyal fans and a set of fans who drift in and out of supporting our club as and when it's entertaining to watch. We proved last year that if we entertain and perform the attendances rise, and so did our performances The one thing I can say about this year is that it's certainly not entertaining! I'll be buying my season ticket next year as I always do but the football at the minute stinks ! We have far better players than the football we're playing, just wish somebody could draw it out of them ...[/p][/quote]Hi Flag, i agree we had lots of others who applied last time however Cooper wasnt first choice, others were offered the job but for whatever reasons never took it on. When STFC got a hold on me and made me a Swindon fan we were roughly in the same position as we are now, yes we have moved up and down slightly,weve been lucky enough to have been part of a fantastic flirtation with the big boys but what i was saying is we are what we are and facts dont lie, I algree also that last year we were entertained and the attendencies went up albeit not enough to cover money spent to produce that entertainment. Lastly and not wanting to sound patronizing but it`s thanks to our set of loyal fans( yourself included) that we have been able to maintain our status as a league team but unfortunatly we dont have enough to move on substainable to the next level. I have always dreamed of my club winning this or winning that as im sure almost all of our fans have and i shall no doubt do that again so i dont want to rubbish anyones hopes and aspirations when it`s to do with STFC however sometimes we do have to except that " we are as what we are" . enjoy the rest of the season stfcflag and hopefully our style will improve and the entertainment will return and we will all be itching to get back to the football come August. Steve. Brentford

3:11pm Mon 3 Feb 14

smirg kcab says...

It's headlines like this which makes me sick.
The buck lies with you after that pathetic shambles, sick of blaming the ref. he had nothing to do apart from give troy a yellow instead of a straight red.
It's headlines like this which makes me sick. The buck lies with you after that pathetic shambles, sick of blaming the ref. he had nothing to do apart from give troy a yellow instead of a straight red. smirg kcab

3:16pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Oldhamred says...

Rebel_phish wrote:
Oldhamred wrote: Oh the humiliation!! I've been at work less than 30 minutes and I already want to go home. Even the chuffing Man U fans are wearing Oldham Shirts. I think I may have to sack the lot of them.
Just to pour more misery onto you Oldham, you didn't fare too well in the Predictions League either. What did you expect? Going for a 5-0 home win indeed. Mind you, you are in good company.
Rebel,
I had it on "Good Authority" that Oldham would struggle given the new back four line-up. Add to that their poor goal scoring record and our good home form(results), I figured that if it was ever going to happen Saturday was the day.
It is worse than all of that though. My flipping' brother-in-law has now taken £100 off me this season.
I feel liked I've been mugged big time.
[quote][p][bold]Rebel_phish[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldhamred[/bold] wrote: Oh the humiliation!! I've been at work less than 30 minutes and I already want to go home. Even the chuffing Man U fans are wearing Oldham Shirts. I think I may have to sack the lot of them.[/p][/quote]Just to pour more misery onto you Oldham, you didn't fare too well in the Predictions League either. What did you expect? Going for a 5-0 home win indeed. Mind you, you are in good company.[/p][/quote]Rebel, I had it on "Good Authority" that Oldham would struggle given the new back four line-up. Add to that their poor goal scoring record and our good home form(results), I figured that if it was ever going to happen Saturday was the day. It is worse than all of that though. My flipping' brother-in-law has now taken £100 off me this season. I feel liked I've been mugged big time. Oldhamred

3:26pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Steve. Brentford says...

the don69 wrote:
Steve. Brentford wrote:
Lets get to 46 points ASAP, then have a summer of hopes and dreams before its to reality...
Im a Swindon fan for life but i dont blame anyone for that, we all got dealt the same hand as Town fans and with that comes the need to have someone to blame when things are rough.
A message for those who are already calling for Coopers head, save your breath we will not be changing our coach. for a start very few would take the job,and we will definatly not be paying any compo out.
We are what we are and that equates to a mid table Div 3 club, this is still a rollercoaster ride only with less high peaks to worry those with height fears...
Cheer up Steve,sounds like you need a drink or a spot of fishing or indeed both? oh and just to cheer you up a bit more! we'll need a few more than 46 points to stay up lol!!!!!!!
Mmm roll on enough points to keep us safe from the dreaded drop then, now where is my hip flask and rods, best advice for a miserable bleeder Don :O)
PS cant seem to find them so anyone with a spare rope and chair...............
.........
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: Lets get to 46 points ASAP, then have a summer of hopes and dreams before its to reality... Im a Swindon fan for life but i dont blame anyone for that, we all got dealt the same hand as Town fans and with that comes the need to have someone to blame when things are rough. A message for those who are already calling for Coopers head, save your breath we will not be changing our coach. for a start very few would take the job,and we will definatly not be paying any compo out. We are what we are and that equates to a mid table Div 3 club, this is still a rollercoaster ride only with less high peaks to worry those with height fears...[/p][/quote]Cheer up Steve,sounds like you need a drink or a spot of fishing or indeed both? oh and just to cheer you up a bit more! we'll need a few more than 46 points to stay up lol!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Mmm roll on enough points to keep us safe from the dreaded drop then, now where is my hip flask and rods, best advice for a miserable bleeder Don :O) PS cant seem to find them so anyone with a spare rope and chair............... ......... Steve. Brentford

3:29pm Mon 3 Feb 14

old town robin says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
harley red wrote:
Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .
so who would you replace him with?
As Hartley said their is next to know chance of Cooper getting the boot any time soon so your question of who would replace him is a bit hypothetical.

I think a more logical question would be what kind of manager would fans like to be in charge. A manager that ticks all the boxes is like gold dust, I'm not saying Cooper doesn't have some good points and whether he or Luke would make a better number two may be debatable, but for starters here are some of the key points I believe a good manager would have on his CV

Track record of getting teams promoted
Man management skills
Tactical nous
Good contacts in the game
Motivator

You could probably add a few more to that David, but someone like Gary Johnson comes close to these qualities even if his team is bottom of the Championship
As I said above I think Power will get in a new manager if he really is ambitious, possibly moving Cooper back to assistant. I'm not sure about Johnson, only ever done it with Yeovil,

In the last 30 years or so, our only really successful managers have been former players taking on their first managerial task, I would like this to be the road we go down again, whether we like it or not it's far easier to get players to come here with a "Name" manager than without, I would be looking for someone who is about to retire from the premiership at the end off the season and is looking for a challenge. No doubt a certain person would look at Kevin Phillips, but a respected player with his experience would go down well.
Yes, I thought about new man on the block scenario and Phillips came to mind. Think Robbie Fowler was also looking to get a break into management, It's worked for us in the past with big names, Macari, Ardiles, Hoddle and Di Canio all achieved something,

But all speculation for some time in the future, Coops job is pretty safe whilst lee power owns the club
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .[/p][/quote]so who would you replace him with?[/p][/quote]As Hartley said their is next to know chance of Cooper getting the boot any time soon so your question of who would replace him is a bit hypothetical. I think a more logical question would be what kind of manager would fans like to be in charge. A manager that ticks all the boxes is like gold dust, I'm not saying Cooper doesn't have some good points and whether he or Luke would make a better number two may be debatable, but for starters here are some of the key points I believe a good manager would have on his CV Track record of getting teams promoted Man management skills Tactical nous Good contacts in the game Motivator You could probably add a few more to that David, but someone like Gary Johnson comes close to these qualities even if his team is bottom of the Championship[/p][/quote]As I said above I think Power will get in a new manager if he really is ambitious, possibly moving Cooper back to assistant. I'm not sure about Johnson, only ever done it with Yeovil, In the last 30 years or so, our only really successful managers have been former players taking on their first managerial task, I would like this to be the road we go down again, whether we like it or not it's far easier to get players to come here with a "Name" manager than without, I would be looking for someone who is about to retire from the premiership at the end off the season and is looking for a challenge. No doubt a certain person would look at Kevin Phillips, but a respected player with his experience would go down well.[/p][/quote]Yes, I thought about new man on the block scenario and Phillips came to mind. Think Robbie Fowler was also looking to get a break into management, It's worked for us in the past with big names, Macari, Ardiles, Hoddle and Di Canio all achieved something, But all speculation for some time in the future, Coops job is pretty safe whilst lee power owns the club old town robin

3:30pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Bassett Hound says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
stfcflag wrote:
Steve. Brentford wrote:
Lets get to 46 points ASAP, then have a summer of hopes and dreams before its to reality...
Im a Swindon fan for life but i dont blame anyone for that, we all got dealt the same hand as Town fans and with that comes the need to have someone to blame when things are rough.
A message for those who are already calling for Coopers head, save your breath we will not be changing our coach. for a start very few would take the job,and we will definatly not be paying any compo out.
We are what we are and that equates to a mid table Div 3 club, this is still a rollercoaster ride only with less high peaks to worry those with height fears...
We had lots of applications for the role and always would have, whether you rate cooper or not he's certainly not our only choice!

As for a division 3 club I disagree, we have a set of loyal fans and a set of fans who drift in and out of supporting our club as and when it's entertaining to watch. We proved last year that if we entertain and perform the attendances rise, and so did our performances

The one thing I can say about this year is that it's certainly not entertaining! I'll be buying my season ticket next year as I always do but the football at the minute stinks ! We have far better players than the football we're playing, just wish somebody could draw it out of them ...
Hi Flag, i agree we had lots of others who applied last time however Cooper wasnt first choice, others were offered the job but for whatever reasons never took it on.
When STFC got a hold on me and made me a Swindon fan we were roughly in the same position as we are now, yes we have moved up and down slightly,weve been lucky enough to have been part of a fantastic flirtation with the big boys but what i was saying is we are what we are and facts dont lie,
I algree also that last year we were entertained and the attendencies went up albeit not enough to cover money spent to produce that entertainment.
Lastly and not wanting to sound patronizing but it`s thanks to our set of loyal fans( yourself included) that we have been able to maintain our status as a league team but unfortunatly we dont have enough to move on substainable to the next level.
I have always dreamed of my club winning this or winning that as im sure almost all of our fans have and i shall no doubt do that again so i dont want to rubbish anyones hopes and aspirations when it`s to do with STFC however sometimes we do have to except that " we are as what we are" .
enjoy the rest of the season stfcflag and hopefully our style will improve and the entertainment will return and we will all be itching to get back to the football come August.
Steve, Who was offered the job before MC ?
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfcflag[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: Lets get to 46 points ASAP, then have a summer of hopes and dreams before its to reality... Im a Swindon fan for life but i dont blame anyone for that, we all got dealt the same hand as Town fans and with that comes the need to have someone to blame when things are rough. A message for those who are already calling for Coopers head, save your breath we will not be changing our coach. for a start very few would take the job,and we will definatly not be paying any compo out. We are what we are and that equates to a mid table Div 3 club, this is still a rollercoaster ride only with less high peaks to worry those with height fears...[/p][/quote]We had lots of applications for the role and always would have, whether you rate cooper or not he's certainly not our only choice! As for a division 3 club I disagree, we have a set of loyal fans and a set of fans who drift in and out of supporting our club as and when it's entertaining to watch. We proved last year that if we entertain and perform the attendances rise, and so did our performances The one thing I can say about this year is that it's certainly not entertaining! I'll be buying my season ticket next year as I always do but the football at the minute stinks ! We have far better players than the football we're playing, just wish somebody could draw it out of them ...[/p][/quote]Hi Flag, i agree we had lots of others who applied last time however Cooper wasnt first choice, others were offered the job but for whatever reasons never took it on. When STFC got a hold on me and made me a Swindon fan we were roughly in the same position as we are now, yes we have moved up and down slightly,weve been lucky enough to have been part of a fantastic flirtation with the big boys but what i was saying is we are what we are and facts dont lie, I algree also that last year we were entertained and the attendencies went up albeit not enough to cover money spent to produce that entertainment. Lastly and not wanting to sound patronizing but it`s thanks to our set of loyal fans( yourself included) that we have been able to maintain our status as a league team but unfortunatly we dont have enough to move on substainable to the next level. I have always dreamed of my club winning this or winning that as im sure almost all of our fans have and i shall no doubt do that again so i dont want to rubbish anyones hopes and aspirations when it`s to do with STFC however sometimes we do have to except that " we are as what we are" . enjoy the rest of the season stfcflag and hopefully our style will improve and the entertainment will return and we will all be itching to get back to the football come August.[/p][/quote]Steve, Who was offered the job before MC ? Bassett Hound

3:31pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Oxon-Red says...

Bassett Hound wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
harley red wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .
so who would you replace him with?
As Hartley said their is next to know chance of Cooper getting the boot any time soon so your question of who would replace him is a bit hypothetical. I think a more logical question would be what kind of manager would fans like to be in charge. A manager that ticks all the boxes is like gold dust, I'm not saying Cooper doesn't have some good points and whether he or Luke would make a better number two may be debatable, but for starters here are some of the key points I believe a good manager would have on his CV Track record of getting teams promoted Man management skills Tactical nous Good contacts in the game Motivator You could probably add a few more to that David, but someone like Gary Johnson comes close to these qualities even if his team is bottom of the Championship
As identified, Johnson has had success at one club. Good list of attributes but can you name someone that fits the bill that is currently unattached ? COYMR
Gary Johnson has taken 2 sides to the Championship Yeovil and Bristol City.
Just checked his record and fair cop !

Interesting that he has been identified as his background prior to his success with Yeovil is similar to someone else.

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]Bassett Hound[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .[/p][/quote]so who would you replace him with?[/p][/quote]As Hartley said their is next to know chance of Cooper getting the boot any time soon so your question of who would replace him is a bit hypothetical. I think a more logical question would be what kind of manager would fans like to be in charge. A manager that ticks all the boxes is like gold dust, I'm not saying Cooper doesn't have some good points and whether he or Luke would make a better number two may be debatable, but for starters here are some of the key points I believe a good manager would have on his CV Track record of getting teams promoted Man management skills Tactical nous Good contacts in the game Motivator You could probably add a few more to that David, but someone like Gary Johnson comes close to these qualities even if his team is bottom of the Championship[/p][/quote]As identified, Johnson has had success at one club. Good list of attributes but can you name someone that fits the bill that is currently unattached ? COYMR[/p][/quote]Gary Johnson has taken 2 sides to the Championship Yeovil and Bristol City.[/p][/quote]Just checked his record and fair cop ! Interesting that he has been identified as his background prior to his success with Yeovil is similar to someone else. COYMR Oxon-Red

3:33pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Davidsyrett says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
stfcflag wrote:
Steve. Brentford wrote:
Lets get to 46 points ASAP, then have a summer of hopes and dreams before its to reality...
Im a Swindon fan for life but i dont blame anyone for that, we all got dealt the same hand as Town fans and with that comes the need to have someone to blame when things are rough.
A message for those who are already calling for Coopers head, save your breath we will not be changing our coach. for a start very few would take the job,and we will definatly not be paying any compo out.
We are what we are and that equates to a mid table Div 3 club, this is still a rollercoaster ride only with less high peaks to worry those with height fears...
We had lots of applications for the role and always would have, whether you rate cooper or not he's certainly not our only choice!

As for a division 3 club I disagree, we have a set of loyal fans and a set of fans who drift in and out of supporting our club as and when it's entertaining to watch. We proved last year that if we entertain and perform the attendances rise, and so did our performances

The one thing I can say about this year is that it's certainly not entertaining! I'll be buying my season ticket next year as I always do but the football at the minute stinks ! We have far better players than the football we're playing, just wish somebody could draw it out of them ...
Hi Flag, i agree we had lots of others who applied last time however Cooper wasnt first choice, others were offered the job but for whatever reasons never took it on.
When STFC got a hold on me and made me a Swindon fan we were roughly in the same position as we are now, yes we have moved up and down slightly,weve been lucky enough to have been part of a fantastic flirtation with the big boys but what i was saying is we are what we are and facts dont lie,
I algree also that last year we were entertained and the attendencies went up albeit not enough to cover money spent to produce that entertainment.
Lastly and not wanting to sound patronizing but it`s thanks to our set of loyal fans( yourself included) that we have been able to maintain our status as a league team but unfortunatly we dont have enough to move on substainable to the next level.
I have always dreamed of my club winning this or winning that as im sure almost all of our fans have and i shall no doubt do that again so i dont want to rubbish anyones hopes and aspirations when it`s to do with STFC however sometimes we do have to except that " we are as what we are" .
enjoy the rest of the season stfcflag and hopefully our style will improve and the entertainment will return and we will all be itching to get back to the football come August.
We may have had "lots of others" interested in the job, but what sort of wages did they want? Remember Cooper was already employed by the club, had he been removed we would have had to pay compensation. Also by then we were committed to playing the Spurs Loanee's and a certain passing game, would many of the managers agree to go along with that?
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfcflag[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: Lets get to 46 points ASAP, then have a summer of hopes and dreams before its to reality... Im a Swindon fan for life but i dont blame anyone for that, we all got dealt the same hand as Town fans and with that comes the need to have someone to blame when things are rough. A message for those who are already calling for Coopers head, save your breath we will not be changing our coach. for a start very few would take the job,and we will definatly not be paying any compo out. We are what we are and that equates to a mid table Div 3 club, this is still a rollercoaster ride only with less high peaks to worry those with height fears...[/p][/quote]We had lots of applications for the role and always would have, whether you rate cooper or not he's certainly not our only choice! As for a division 3 club I disagree, we have a set of loyal fans and a set of fans who drift in and out of supporting our club as and when it's entertaining to watch. We proved last year that if we entertain and perform the attendances rise, and so did our performances The one thing I can say about this year is that it's certainly not entertaining! I'll be buying my season ticket next year as I always do but the football at the minute stinks ! We have far better players than the football we're playing, just wish somebody could draw it out of them ...[/p][/quote]Hi Flag, i agree we had lots of others who applied last time however Cooper wasnt first choice, others were offered the job but for whatever reasons never took it on. When STFC got a hold on me and made me a Swindon fan we were roughly in the same position as we are now, yes we have moved up and down slightly,weve been lucky enough to have been part of a fantastic flirtation with the big boys but what i was saying is we are what we are and facts dont lie, I algree also that last year we were entertained and the attendencies went up albeit not enough to cover money spent to produce that entertainment. Lastly and not wanting to sound patronizing but it`s thanks to our set of loyal fans( yourself included) that we have been able to maintain our status as a league team but unfortunatly we dont have enough to move on substainable to the next level. I have always dreamed of my club winning this or winning that as im sure almost all of our fans have and i shall no doubt do that again so i dont want to rubbish anyones hopes and aspirations when it`s to do with STFC however sometimes we do have to except that " we are as what we are" . enjoy the rest of the season stfcflag and hopefully our style will improve and the entertainment will return and we will all be itching to get back to the football come August.[/p][/quote]We may have had "lots of others" interested in the job, but what sort of wages did they want? Remember Cooper was already employed by the club, had he been removed we would have had to pay compensation. Also by then we were committed to playing the Spurs Loanee's and a certain passing game, would many of the managers agree to go along with that? Davidsyrett

4:11pm Mon 3 Feb 14

We are PANTS says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
Lets get to 46 points ASAP, then have a summer of hopes and dreams before its to reality... Im a Swindon fan for life but i dont blame anyone for that, we all got dealt the same hand as Town fans and with that comes the need to have someone to blame when things are rough. A message for those who are already calling for Coopers head, save your breath we will not be changing our coach. for a start very few would take the job,and we will definatly not be paying any compo out. We are what we are and that equates to a mid table Div 3 club, this is still a rollercoaster ride only with less high peaks to worry those with height fears...
i actually think the target is more like 52 points Steve.. Teams with 1 point per game tend to fall through the trap door... That said, there are plenty of games left to achieve that and my cup is half full. Therefore i predict 63 points finishing 11th
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: Lets get to 46 points ASAP, then have a summer of hopes and dreams before its to reality... Im a Swindon fan for life but i dont blame anyone for that, we all got dealt the same hand as Town fans and with that comes the need to have someone to blame when things are rough. A message for those who are already calling for Coopers head, save your breath we will not be changing our coach. for a start very few would take the job,and we will definatly not be paying any compo out. We are what we are and that equates to a mid table Div 3 club, this is still a rollercoaster ride only with less high peaks to worry those with height fears...[/p][/quote]i actually think the target is more like 52 points Steve.. Teams with 1 point per game tend to fall through the trap door... That said, there are plenty of games left to achieve that and my cup is half full. Therefore i predict 63 points finishing 11th We are PANTS

4:12pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Steve. Brentford says...

Bassett Hound wrote:
Steve. Brentford wrote:
stfcflag wrote:
Steve. Brentford wrote:
Lets get to 46 points ASAP, then have a summer of hopes and dreams before its to reality...
Im a Swindon fan for life but i dont blame anyone for that, we all got dealt the same hand as Town fans and with that comes the need to have someone to blame when things are rough.
A message for those who are already calling for Coopers head, save your breath we will not be changing our coach. for a start very few would take the job,and we will definatly not be paying any compo out.
We are what we are and that equates to a mid table Div 3 club, this is still a rollercoaster ride only with less high peaks to worry those with height fears...
We had lots of applications for the role and always would have, whether you rate cooper or not he's certainly not our only choice!

As for a division 3 club I disagree, we have a set of loyal fans and a set of fans who drift in and out of supporting our club as and when it's entertaining to watch. We proved last year that if we entertain and perform the attendances rise, and so did our performances

The one thing I can say about this year is that it's certainly not entertaining! I'll be buying my season ticket next year as I always do but the football at the minute stinks ! We have far better players than the football we're playing, just wish somebody could draw it out of them ...
Hi Flag, i agree we had lots of others who applied last time however Cooper wasnt first choice, others were offered the job but for whatever reasons never took it on.
When STFC got a hold on me and made me a Swindon fan we were roughly in the same position as we are now, yes we have moved up and down slightly,weve been lucky enough to have been part of a fantastic flirtation with the big boys but what i was saying is we are what we are and facts dont lie,
I algree also that last year we were entertained and the attendencies went up albeit not enough to cover money spent to produce that entertainment.
Lastly and not wanting to sound patronizing but it`s thanks to our set of loyal fans( yourself included) that we have been able to maintain our status as a league team but unfortunatly we dont have enough to move on substainable to the next level.
I have always dreamed of my club winning this or winning that as im sure almost all of our fans have and i shall no doubt do that again so i dont want to rubbish anyones hopes and aspirations when it`s to do with STFC however sometimes we do have to except that " we are as what we are" .
enjoy the rest of the season stfcflag and hopefully our style will improve and the entertainment will return and we will all be itching to get back to the football come August.
Steve, Who was offered the job before MC ?
I`m sure others will remember more names than i Bassett however Ian Wright was definitely one of them....
[quote][p][bold]Bassett Hound[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfcflag[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: Lets get to 46 points ASAP, then have a summer of hopes and dreams before its to reality... Im a Swindon fan for life but i dont blame anyone for that, we all got dealt the same hand as Town fans and with that comes the need to have someone to blame when things are rough. A message for those who are already calling for Coopers head, save your breath we will not be changing our coach. for a start very few would take the job,and we will definatly not be paying any compo out. We are what we are and that equates to a mid table Div 3 club, this is still a rollercoaster ride only with less high peaks to worry those with height fears...[/p][/quote]We had lots of applications for the role and always would have, whether you rate cooper or not he's certainly not our only choice! As for a division 3 club I disagree, we have a set of loyal fans and a set of fans who drift in and out of supporting our club as and when it's entertaining to watch. We proved last year that if we entertain and perform the attendances rise, and so did our performances The one thing I can say about this year is that it's certainly not entertaining! I'll be buying my season ticket next year as I always do but the football at the minute stinks ! We have far better players than the football we're playing, just wish somebody could draw it out of them ...[/p][/quote]Hi Flag, i agree we had lots of others who applied last time however Cooper wasnt first choice, others were offered the job but for whatever reasons never took it on. When STFC got a hold on me and made me a Swindon fan we were roughly in the same position as we are now, yes we have moved up and down slightly,weve been lucky enough to have been part of a fantastic flirtation with the big boys but what i was saying is we are what we are and facts dont lie, I algree also that last year we were entertained and the attendencies went up albeit not enough to cover money spent to produce that entertainment. Lastly and not wanting to sound patronizing but it`s thanks to our set of loyal fans( yourself included) that we have been able to maintain our status as a league team but unfortunatly we dont have enough to move on substainable to the next level. I have always dreamed of my club winning this or winning that as im sure almost all of our fans have and i shall no doubt do that again so i dont want to rubbish anyones hopes and aspirations when it`s to do with STFC however sometimes we do have to except that " we are as what we are" . enjoy the rest of the season stfcflag and hopefully our style will improve and the entertainment will return and we will all be itching to get back to the football come August.[/p][/quote]Steve, Who was offered the job before MC ?[/p][/quote]I`m sure others will remember more names than i Bassett however Ian Wright was definitely one of them.... Steve. Brentford

4:21pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Swindon1984 says...

smirg kcab wrote:
It's headlines like this which makes me sick. The buck lies with you after that pathetic shambles, sick of blaming the ref. he had nothing to do apart from give troy a yellow instead of a straight red.
Can't agree entirely, the ref was very poor but by the same token that's irrelevant - if the ref had a perfect game we still would've got nothing because our attitude wasn't right. Deserved nothing, and that's what we got, referree not withstanding.
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: It's headlines like this which makes me sick. The buck lies with you after that pathetic shambles, sick of blaming the ref. he had nothing to do apart from give troy a yellow instead of a straight red.[/p][/quote]Can't agree entirely, the ref was very poor but by the same token that's irrelevant - if the ref had a perfect game we still would've got nothing because our attitude wasn't right. Deserved nothing, and that's what we got, referree not withstanding. Swindon1984

4:23pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Steve. Brentford says...

We are PANTS wrote:
Steve. Brentford wrote:
Lets get to 46 points ASAP, then have a summer of hopes and dreams before its to reality... Im a Swindon fan for life but i dont blame anyone for that, we all got dealt the same hand as Town fans and with that comes the need to have someone to blame when things are rough. A message for those who are already calling for Coopers head, save your breath we will not be changing our coach. for a start very few would take the job,and we will definatly not be paying any compo out. We are what we are and that equates to a mid table Div 3 club, this is still a rollercoaster ride only with less high peaks to worry those with height fears...
i actually think the target is more like 52 points Steve.. Teams with 1 point per game tend to fall through the trap door... That said, there are plenty of games left to achieve that and my cup is half full. Therefore i predict 63 points finishing 11th
Yeah i was being a little hopeful with 46 mate but if we finish in 11th that would do for me Pants!
[quote][p][bold]We are PANTS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: Lets get to 46 points ASAP, then have a summer of hopes and dreams before its to reality... Im a Swindon fan for life but i dont blame anyone for that, we all got dealt the same hand as Town fans and with that comes the need to have someone to blame when things are rough. A message for those who are already calling for Coopers head, save your breath we will not be changing our coach. for a start very few would take the job,and we will definatly not be paying any compo out. We are what we are and that equates to a mid table Div 3 club, this is still a rollercoaster ride only with less high peaks to worry those with height fears...[/p][/quote]i actually think the target is more like 52 points Steve.. Teams with 1 point per game tend to fall through the trap door... That said, there are plenty of games left to achieve that and my cup is half full. Therefore i predict 63 points finishing 11th[/p][/quote]Yeah i was being a little hopeful with 46 mate but if we finish in 11th that would do for me Pants! Steve. Brentford

4:56pm Mon 3 Feb 14

tifosi says...

The ref wasn't responsible for that shambolic display of 'football' from Town. He wasn't responsible for us getting just ONE shot on goal the whole match, and he wasn't responsible for Oldham winning. I've always backed Cooper, but after that display I'm beginning to wonder. Probably the worse display at the County Ground I've ever seen since 1965
The ref wasn't responsible for that shambolic display of 'football' from Town. He wasn't responsible for us getting just ONE shot on goal the whole match, and he wasn't responsible for Oldham winning. I've always backed Cooper, but after that display I'm beginning to wonder. Probably the worse display at the County Ground I've ever seen since 1965 tifosi

5:20pm Mon 3 Feb 14

dazzastfc says...

Graham8181 wrote:
i can't see Cooper being here next season, he has no idea about tactics
IF Cooper is here next season,,Season tickets will fall big time...
Its OK saying this and that BUT at the end of the day YOU are the manager of a football club...
So when things go wrong like it has over the past 2 or so months there is only 1 person that takes the blame....
Its just like if we were top of the division you would heap all the glory and not even mention the refs...

After the tirst ten games of the season you was lording it up...IT CUTS BOTH WAYS
[quote][p][bold]Graham8181[/bold] wrote: i can't see Cooper being here next season, he has no idea about tactics[/p][/quote]IF Cooper is here next season,,Season tickets will fall big time... Its OK saying this and that BUT at the end of the day YOU are the manager of a football club... So when things go wrong like it has over the past 2 or so months there is only 1 person that takes the blame.... Its just like if we were top of the division you would heap all the glory and not even mention the refs... After the tirst ten games of the season you was lording it up...IT CUTS BOTH WAYS dazzastfc

5:30pm Mon 3 Feb 14

harley red says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
harley red wrote:
Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .
so who would you replace him with?
There are plenty of good managers about but not many puppets !!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .[/p][/quote]so who would you replace him with?[/p][/quote]There are plenty of good managers about but not many puppets !!!!! harley red

5:44pm Mon 3 Feb 14

LeGod says...

SteveBrentford - we need to get to 54 points to be safe which is wht i said earlier the way we are playing and the games we have coming up its a worry.
Five wins will put us on 56 which will be enough but we shouldnt be thinking like that but everyone seems to be of the same opinion now that we are playing poorly and losing to the bottom sides and with top sides to play unless we get our form back and Cooper stops making stupid decisions with his team selection and also stops being negative when we are plating at home we should be alright and the distractiion of this poxy JPT cup. If we lose that his idea to stupidly rest players for saturday will have back fired.
The league is more important than any cup and especially staying in this league.
I thought the Shrewsbury game was the worst of the season but saturday outstripped that by a long way.
SteveBrentford - we need to get to 54 points to be safe which is wht i said earlier the way we are playing and the games we have coming up its a worry. Five wins will put us on 56 which will be enough but we shouldnt be thinking like that but everyone seems to be of the same opinion now that we are playing poorly and losing to the bottom sides and with top sides to play unless we get our form back and Cooper stops making stupid decisions with his team selection and also stops being negative when we are plating at home we should be alright and the distractiion of this poxy JPT cup. If we lose that his idea to stupidly rest players for saturday will have back fired. The league is more important than any cup and especially staying in this league. I thought the Shrewsbury game was the worst of the season but saturday outstripped that by a long way. LeGod

5:50pm Mon 3 Feb 14

harley red says...

Bassett Hound wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
harley red wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .
so who would you replace him with?
As Hartley said their is next to know chance of Cooper getting the boot any time soon so your question of who would replace him is a bit hypothetical. I think a more logical question would be what kind of manager would fans like to be in charge. A manager that ticks all the boxes is like gold dust, I'm not saying Cooper doesn't have some good points and whether he or Luke would make a better number two may be debatable, but for starters here are some of the key points I believe a good manager would have on his CV Track record of getting teams promoted Man management skills Tactical nous Good contacts in the game Motivator You could probably add a few more to that David, but someone like Gary Johnson comes close to these qualities even if his team is bottom of the Championship
As identified, Johnson has had success at one club.

Good list of attributes but can you name someone that fits the bill that is currently unattached ?

COYMR
Gary Johnson has taken 2 sides to the Championship Yeovil and Bristol City.
Dicanio is out of work bet he would take us up he he
[quote][p][bold]Bassett Hound[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .[/p][/quote]so who would you replace him with?[/p][/quote]As Hartley said their is next to know chance of Cooper getting the boot any time soon so your question of who would replace him is a bit hypothetical. I think a more logical question would be what kind of manager would fans like to be in charge. A manager that ticks all the boxes is like gold dust, I'm not saying Cooper doesn't have some good points and whether he or Luke would make a better number two may be debatable, but for starters here are some of the key points I believe a good manager would have on his CV Track record of getting teams promoted Man management skills Tactical nous Good contacts in the game Motivator You could probably add a few more to that David, but someone like Gary Johnson comes close to these qualities even if his team is bottom of the Championship[/p][/quote]As identified, Johnson has had success at one club. Good list of attributes but can you name someone that fits the bill that is currently unattached ? COYMR[/p][/quote]Gary Johnson has taken 2 sides to the Championship Yeovil and Bristol City.[/p][/quote]Dicanio is out of work bet he would take us up he he harley red

5:56pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Is that you Lovesey says...

smirg kcab wrote:
It's headlines like this which makes me sick. The buck lies with you after that pathetic shambles, sick of blaming the ref. he had nothing to do apart from give troy a yellow instead of a straight red.
Dont know why everyone is marking this as a bad post, it was a shambles of a performance by the ref and us, seeing the troy tackle back he should have gone for a straight red on the first one....
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: It's headlines like this which makes me sick. The buck lies with you after that pathetic shambles, sick of blaming the ref. he had nothing to do apart from give troy a yellow instead of a straight red.[/p][/quote]Dont know why everyone is marking this as a bad post, it was a shambles of a performance by the ref and us, seeing the troy tackle back he should have gone for a straight red on the first one.... Is that you Lovesey

6:05pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Davidsyrett says...

harley red wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
harley red wrote:
Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .
so who would you replace him with?
There are plenty of good managers about but not many puppets !!!!!
still waiting for you to name one though!!!
[quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .[/p][/quote]so who would you replace him with?[/p][/quote]There are plenty of good managers about but not many puppets !!!!![/p][/quote]still waiting for you to name one though!!! Davidsyrett

6:13pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Wayne Allison Bromham says...

Still cannot believe how poor the performance was on Saturday. As a paying customer I always thought the league was the bread and butter, and with so many first teamers not involved for no real apparent reasons the club should make it clear that the Jpt game is the priority beforehand. Some people seem surprised of the performance on Saturday. No surprise to me as 3/4 of the town players on show are not good enough to wear the shirt as far as I am concerned. The likes of Branco, Byrne, Harley, Reckord, Gladwin, shouldn't be considered and look like league 2 players or lower. Even Luongo is over rated from what I have seen, blows very hot and cold and has little impact on games. The sooner Cooper realises the above the better
Still cannot believe how poor the performance was on Saturday. As a paying customer I always thought the league was the bread and butter, and with so many first teamers not involved for no real apparent reasons the club should make it clear that the Jpt game is the priority beforehand. Some people seem surprised of the performance on Saturday. No surprise to me as 3/4 of the town players on show are not good enough to wear the shirt as far as I am concerned. The likes of Branco, Byrne, Harley, Reckord, Gladwin, shouldn't be considered and look like league 2 players or lower. Even Luongo is over rated from what I have seen, blows very hot and cold and has little impact on games. The sooner Cooper realises the above the better Wayne Allison Bromham

6:15pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Oxon-Red says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
harley red wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
harley red wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .
so who would you replace him with?
There are plenty of good managers about but not many puppets !!!!!
still waiting for you to name one though!!!
I can name plenty of puppets Sooty, Sweep, Sue, Lamb Chops, Pinnochio, Finger Mouse :-0

Name a Manager, when pressed, there are apparently not many !!!!!!!!!!!

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .[/p][/quote]so who would you replace him with?[/p][/quote]There are plenty of good managers about but not many puppets !!!!![/p][/quote]still waiting for you to name one though!!![/p][/quote]I can name plenty of puppets Sooty, Sweep, Sue, Lamb Chops, Pinnochio, Finger Mouse :-0 Name a Manager, when pressed, there are apparently not many !!!!!!!!!!! COYMR Oxon-Red

7:01pm Mon 3 Feb 14

dazzastfc says...

harley red wrote:
Bassett Hound wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
harley red wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .
so who would you replace him with?
As Hartley said their is next to know chance of Cooper getting the boot any time soon so your question of who would replace him is a bit hypothetical. I think a more logical question would be what kind of manager would fans like to be in charge. A manager that ticks all the boxes is like gold dust, I'm not saying Cooper doesn't have some good points and whether he or Luke would make a better number two may be debatable, but for starters here are some of the key points I believe a good manager would have on his CV Track record of getting teams promoted Man management skills Tactical nous Good contacts in the game Motivator You could probably add a few more to that David, but someone like Gary Johnson comes close to these qualities even if his team is bottom of the Championship
As identified, Johnson has had success at one club.

Good list of attributes but can you name someone that fits the bill that is currently unattached ?

COYMR
Gary Johnson has taken 2 sides to the Championship Yeovil and Bristol City.
Dicanio is out of work bet he would take us up he he
AND HE WILL BE FOR A LONG LONG TIME...
Dont think there are many clubs in ENGLAND that can afford to be in a embargo after 10 games
[quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bassett Hound[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .[/p][/quote]so who would you replace him with?[/p][/quote]As Hartley said their is next to know chance of Cooper getting the boot any time soon so your question of who would replace him is a bit hypothetical. I think a more logical question would be what kind of manager would fans like to be in charge. A manager that ticks all the boxes is like gold dust, I'm not saying Cooper doesn't have some good points and whether he or Luke would make a better number two may be debatable, but for starters here are some of the key points I believe a good manager would have on his CV Track record of getting teams promoted Man management skills Tactical nous Good contacts in the game Motivator You could probably add a few more to that David, but someone like Gary Johnson comes close to these qualities even if his team is bottom of the Championship[/p][/quote]As identified, Johnson has had success at one club. Good list of attributes but can you name someone that fits the bill that is currently unattached ? COYMR[/p][/quote]Gary Johnson has taken 2 sides to the Championship Yeovil and Bristol City.[/p][/quote]Dicanio is out of work bet he would take us up he he[/p][/quote]AND HE WILL BE FOR A LONG LONG TIME... Dont think there are many clubs in ENGLAND that can afford to be in a embargo after 10 games dazzastfc

7:03pm Mon 3 Feb 14

The Jockster says...

OTR - I don't suppose Robbie Fowler wouldn't sniff at the opportunity would he!
OTR - I don't suppose Robbie Fowler wouldn't sniff at the opportunity would he! The Jockster

7:38pm Mon 3 Feb 14

alchafreds says...

LeGod wrote:
SteveBrentford - we need to get to 54 points to be safe which is wht i said earlier the way we are playing and the games we have coming up its a worry.
Five wins will put us on 56 which will be enough but we shouldnt be thinking like that but everyone seems to be of the same opinion now that we are playing poorly and losing to the bottom sides and with top sides to play unless we get our form back and Cooper stops making stupid decisions with his team selection and also stops being negative when we are plating at home we should be alright and the distractiion of this poxy JPT cup. If we lose that his idea to stupidly rest players for saturday will have back fired.
The league is more important than any cup and especially staying in this league.
I thought the Shrewsbury game was the worst of the season but saturday outstripped that by a long way.
talking about team selection
how is it n'guessan storey kassim & ranger cant get a start in that team and also what does barthram have to do to get a game,
[quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: SteveBrentford - we need to get to 54 points to be safe which is wht i said earlier the way we are playing and the games we have coming up its a worry. Five wins will put us on 56 which will be enough but we shouldnt be thinking like that but everyone seems to be of the same opinion now that we are playing poorly and losing to the bottom sides and with top sides to play unless we get our form back and Cooper stops making stupid decisions with his team selection and also stops being negative when we are plating at home we should be alright and the distractiion of this poxy JPT cup. If we lose that his idea to stupidly rest players for saturday will have back fired. The league is more important than any cup and especially staying in this league. I thought the Shrewsbury game was the worst of the season but saturday outstripped that by a long way.[/p][/quote]talking about team selection how is it n'guessan storey kassim & ranger cant get a start in that team and also what does barthram have to do to get a game, alchafreds

8:03pm Mon 3 Feb 14

smirg kcab says...

Is that you Lovesey wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
It's headlines like this which makes me sick. The buck lies with you after that pathetic shambles, sick of blaming the ref. he had nothing to do apart from give troy a yellow instead of a straight red.
Dont know why everyone is marking this as a bad post, it was a shambles of a performance by the ref and us, seeing the troy tackle back he should have gone for a straight red on the first one....
Because it's me weep weep
It's the people who can't read gives me the negs,
Thanks I/t/y/l always respect your post
[quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: It's headlines like this which makes me sick. The buck lies with you after that pathetic shambles, sick of blaming the ref. he had nothing to do apart from give troy a yellow instead of a straight red.[/p][/quote]Dont know why everyone is marking this as a bad post, it was a shambles of a performance by the ref and us, seeing the troy tackle back he should have gone for a straight red on the first one....[/p][/quote]Because it's me weep weep It's the people who can't read gives me the negs, Thanks I/t/y/l always respect your post smirg kcab

8:09pm Mon 3 Feb 14

alchafreds says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
harley red wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
harley red wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .
so who would you replace him with?
There are plenty of good managers about but not many puppets !!!!!
still waiting for you to name one though!!!
I can name plenty of puppets Sooty, Sweep, Sue, Lamb Chops, Pinnochio, Finger Mouse :-0

Name a Manager, when pressed, there are apparently not many !!!!!!!!!!!

COYMR
marti ling?
dennis wise ?
neil warnock ?
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .[/p][/quote]so who would you replace him with?[/p][/quote]There are plenty of good managers about but not many puppets !!!!![/p][/quote]still waiting for you to name one though!!![/p][/quote]I can name plenty of puppets Sooty, Sweep, Sue, Lamb Chops, Pinnochio, Finger Mouse :-0 Name a Manager, when pressed, there are apparently not many !!!!!!!!!!! COYMR[/p][/quote]marti ling? dennis wise ? neil warnock ? alchafreds

8:37pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Di kanny oh says...

How come Cooper one minute says that N'Guessan could be back in the team after there were no takers before the transfer deadline and is our present top scorer, yet never even made the bench on Saturday. Cooper messed up with team selection and even though I have backed him all season, this game he messed up big time and left himself with no where to go by giving two center backs 45 mins each and playing Luongo when he had tight hamstrings so was clearly in need of a rest. This took two players out of the equation for substitutes and he had little option to change anything towards the end of the game. Reckord looks a liability and should not be playing and needs plenty of work, Barker was non existent and we should have seen Tigane come on and get the crosses in and Byrne needs to spend a whole week in learning how to cross a football and more importantly get it off the ground. A complete shambles of a game with only Troy looking anywhere near interested in getting forward. Felt sorry for Smith who had no service or help from Byrne or Barker. Yes Cooper its time to look at yourself sunshine and stop the blame culture.Its no good getting to Wembley in the paint pot if this game cost us staying in the division is it ???
How come Cooper one minute says that N'Guessan could be back in the team after there were no takers before the transfer deadline and is our present top scorer, yet never even made the bench on Saturday. Cooper messed up with team selection and even though I have backed him all season, this game he messed up big time and left himself with no where to go by giving two center backs 45 mins each and playing Luongo when he had tight hamstrings so was clearly in need of a rest. This took two players out of the equation for substitutes and he had little option to change anything towards the end of the game. Reckord looks a liability and should not be playing and needs plenty of work, Barker was non existent and we should have seen Tigane come on and get the crosses in and Byrne needs to spend a whole week in learning how to cross a football and more importantly get it off the ground. A complete shambles of a game with only Troy looking anywhere near interested in getting forward. Felt sorry for Smith who had no service or help from Byrne or Barker. Yes Cooper its time to look at yourself sunshine and stop the blame culture.Its no good getting to Wembley in the paint pot if this game cost us staying in the division is it ??? Di kanny oh

8:47pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Di kanny oh says...

tifosi wrote:
The ref wasn't responsible for that shambolic display of 'football' from Town. He wasn't responsible for us getting just ONE shot on goal the whole match, and he wasn't responsible for Oldham winning. I've always backed Cooper, but after that display I'm beginning to wonder. Probably the worse display at the County Ground I've ever seen since 1965
Good post we have been steadily getting worse each game at home and have won games we should have lost which has been papering over the cracks. Time to stand up and be counted and that includes the manager. Pathetic display and pathetic team selection and tactics.
[quote][p][bold]tifosi[/bold] wrote: The ref wasn't responsible for that shambolic display of 'football' from Town. He wasn't responsible for us getting just ONE shot on goal the whole match, and he wasn't responsible for Oldham winning. I've always backed Cooper, but after that display I'm beginning to wonder. Probably the worse display at the County Ground I've ever seen since 1965[/p][/quote]Good post we have been steadily getting worse each game at home and have won games we should have lost which has been papering over the cracks. Time to stand up and be counted and that includes the manager. Pathetic display and pathetic team selection and tactics. Di kanny oh

9:02pm Mon 3 Feb 14

smirg kcab says...

And still no apology from the manager
And still no apology from the manager smirg kcab

9:26pm Mon 3 Feb 14

harley red says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
harley red wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
harley red wrote:
Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .
so who would you replace him with?
There are plenty of good managers about but not many puppets !!!!!
still waiting for you to name one though!!!
I have named one why don't you read before you comment ?????
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .[/p][/quote]so who would you replace him with?[/p][/quote]There are plenty of good managers about but not many puppets !!!!![/p][/quote]still waiting for you to name one though!!![/p][/quote]I have named one why don't you read before you comment ????? harley red

10:47pm Mon 3 Feb 14

stranglers says...

Robinonfire wrote:
Tactics or the Ref.

Can we send Cooper out on loan?
It would have to be a free transfer with us paying his wages, I wouldn't have him cut my lawn.

If he stays we will soon be a division two club again.
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: Tactics or the Ref. Can we send Cooper out on loan?[/p][/quote]It would have to be a free transfer with us paying his wages, I wouldn't have him cut my lawn. If he stays we will soon be a division two club again. stranglers

12:00am Tue 4 Feb 14

red white says...

stranglers wrote:
Robinonfire wrote:
Tactics or the Ref.

Can we send Cooper out on loan?
It would have to be a free transfer with us paying his wages, I wouldn't have him cut my lawn.

If he stays we will soon be a division two club again.
No we won't,so shut it!
[quote][p][bold]stranglers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: Tactics or the Ref. Can we send Cooper out on loan?[/p][/quote]It would have to be a free transfer with us paying his wages, I wouldn't have him cut my lawn. If he stays we will soon be a division two club again.[/p][/quote]No we won't,so shut it! red white

12:15am Tue 4 Feb 14

red white says...

Coops has done great.

I want one of the floodlights to keep,the one on the Shrivenham Road> corner of the Stratton Bank,

I asked first,so I win.
Coops has done great. I want one of the floodlights to keep,the one on the Shrivenham Road> corner of the Stratton Bank, I asked first,so I win. red white

7:41am Tue 4 Feb 14

We are PANTS says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Is that you Lovesey wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
It's headlines like this which makes me sick. The buck lies with you after that pathetic shambles, sick of blaming the ref. he had nothing to do apart from give troy a yellow instead of a straight red.
Dont know why everyone is marking this as a bad post, it was a shambles of a performance by the ref and us, seeing the troy tackle back he should have gone for a straight red on the first one....
Because it's me weep weep
It's the people who can't read gives me the negs,
Thanks I/t/y/l always respect your post
Arrrrrrr.. Grim's in love!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: It's headlines like this which makes me sick. The buck lies with you after that pathetic shambles, sick of blaming the ref. he had nothing to do apart from give troy a yellow instead of a straight red.[/p][/quote]Dont know why everyone is marking this as a bad post, it was a shambles of a performance by the ref and us, seeing the troy tackle back he should have gone for a straight red on the first one....[/p][/quote]Because it's me weep weep It's the people who can't read gives me the negs, Thanks I/t/y/l always respect your post[/p][/quote]Arrrrrrr.. Grim's in love!!!!! We are PANTS

8:17am Tue 4 Feb 14

stranglers says...

red white wrote:
stranglers wrote:
Robinonfire wrote:
Tactics or the Ref.

Can we send Cooper out on loan?
It would have to be a free transfer with us paying his wages, I wouldn't have him cut my lawn.

If he stays we will soon be a division two club again.
No we won't,so shut it!
A bit touchy are we? No I will not shut it, who the hell do you think you are? This is democratic England and I am free to speak my mind, if you don't agree that is fine, but do not sling insults at me, may I suggest politely that you broaden your mind.
[quote][p][bold]red white[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stranglers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: Tactics or the Ref. Can we send Cooper out on loan?[/p][/quote]It would have to be a free transfer with us paying his wages, I wouldn't have him cut my lawn. If he stays we will soon be a division two club again.[/p][/quote]No we won't,so shut it![/p][/quote]A bit touchy are we? No I will not shut it, who the hell do you think you are? This is democratic England and I am free to speak my mind, if you don't agree that is fine, but do not sling insults at me, may I suggest politely that you broaden your mind. stranglers

10:00am Tue 4 Feb 14

Stilloyal says...

alchafreds wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
harley red wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
harley red wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .
so who would you replace him with?
There are plenty of good managers about but not many puppets !!!!!
still waiting for you to name one though!!!
I can name plenty of puppets Sooty, Sweep, Sue, Lamb Chops, Pinnochio, Finger Mouse :-0

Name a Manager, when pressed, there are apparently not many !!!!!!!!!!!

COYMR
marti ling?
dennis wise ?
neil warnock ?
A def NOOOO to the first two, what have they achieved ? that's right FCUK ALL.. Warnock would be a decent shout though.
[quote][p][bold]alchafreds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .[/p][/quote]so who would you replace him with?[/p][/quote]There are plenty of good managers about but not many puppets !!!!![/p][/quote]still waiting for you to name one though!!![/p][/quote]I can name plenty of puppets Sooty, Sweep, Sue, Lamb Chops, Pinnochio, Finger Mouse :-0 Name a Manager, when pressed, there are apparently not many !!!!!!!!!!! COYMR[/p][/quote]marti ling? dennis wise ? neil warnock ?[/p][/quote]A def NOOOO to the first two, what have they achieved ? that's right FCUK ALL.. Warnock would be a decent shout though. Stilloyal

5:07pm Tue 4 Feb 14

alchafreds says...

Stilloyal wrote:
alchafreds wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
harley red wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
harley red wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .
so who would you replace him with?
There are plenty of good managers about but not many puppets !!!!!
still waiting for you to name one though!!!
I can name plenty of puppets Sooty, Sweep, Sue, Lamb Chops, Pinnochio, Finger Mouse :-0

Name a Manager, when pressed, there are apparently not many !!!!!!!!!!!

COYMR
marti ling?
dennis wise ?
neil warnock ?
A def NOOOO to the first two, what have they achieved ? that's right FCUK ALL.. Warnock would be a decent shout though.
both played at the highest level for starters
[quote][p][bold]Stilloyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alchafreds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .[/p][/quote]so who would you replace him with?[/p][/quote]There are plenty of good managers about but not many puppets !!!!![/p][/quote]still waiting for you to name one though!!![/p][/quote]I can name plenty of puppets Sooty, Sweep, Sue, Lamb Chops, Pinnochio, Finger Mouse :-0 Name a Manager, when pressed, there are apparently not many !!!!!!!!!!! COYMR[/p][/quote]marti ling? dennis wise ? neil warnock ?[/p][/quote]A def NOOOO to the first two, what have they achieved ? that's right FCUK ALL.. Warnock would be a decent shout though.[/p][/quote]both played at the highest level for starters alchafreds

6:31pm Tue 4 Feb 14

AdderB says...

A few points in no particular order. Ranger should start in prefereance to any other forward in my view. Byrne was subbed off in our last home game but got selected again on Sat. He was awful and nearly all our best moves fell apart when he got the ball.
The gamble to play Barker failed .
Also dont think our Loany fullback from Wolves is upto the job .
Troy was excellent but lost his head and sadly we miss up for one game at least. Possibly a Ward and TAH parnership could be the way forward.
Need to improve against Posh or we could be battered.
A few points in no particular order. Ranger should start in prefereance to any other forward in my view. Byrne was subbed off in our last home game but got selected again on Sat. He was awful and nearly all our best moves fell apart when he got the ball. The gamble to play Barker failed . Also dont think our Loany fullback from Wolves is upto the job . Troy was excellent but lost his head and sadly we miss up for one game at least. Possibly a Ward and TAH parnership could be the way forward. Need to improve against Posh or we could be battered. AdderB

10:29am Wed 5 Feb 14

Stilloyal says...

alchafreds wrote:
Stilloyal wrote:
alchafreds wrote:
Oxon-Red wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
harley red wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
harley red wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .
so who would you replace him with?
There are plenty of good managers about but not many puppets !!!!!
still waiting for you to name one though!!!
I can name plenty of puppets Sooty, Sweep, Sue, Lamb Chops, Pinnochio, Finger Mouse :-0

Name a Manager, when pressed, there are apparently not many !!!!!!!!!!!

COYMR
marti ling?
dennis wise ?
neil warnock ?
A def NOOOO to the first two, what have they achieved ? that's right FCUK ALL.. Warnock would be a decent shout though.
both played at the highest level for starters
We're talking about managing here not playing Some of the finest players in the world tried their hands at management and failed, Bobby Charlton , Bobby Moore and Jimmy Greaves for starters.
[quote][p][bold]alchafreds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stilloyal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alchafreds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]harley red[/bold] wrote: Has anyone noticed that it is never COOPERS fault , we have had all the excuses from them being kids , poor ref , we have a system and we stick to it , but never COOPERS FAULT . He is a poor manager , does not seem to motavat his players and never has a plan B . We have two good forwards now so they should get the ball to them quick so they can get in on goal . So 442 is the way forward . Don't think Cooper will get sacked as he is Powers little puppet .[/p][/quote]so who would you replace him with?[/p][/quote]There are plenty of good managers about but not many puppets !!!!![/p][/quote]still waiting for you to name one though!!![/p][/quote]I can name plenty of puppets Sooty, Sweep, Sue, Lamb Chops, Pinnochio, Finger Mouse :-0 Name a Manager, when pressed, there are apparently not many !!!!!!!!!!! COYMR[/p][/quote]marti ling? dennis wise ? neil warnock ?[/p][/quote]A def NOOOO to the first two, what have they achieved ? that's right FCUK ALL.. Warnock would be a decent shout though.[/p][/quote]both played at the highest level for starters[/p][/quote]We're talking about managing here not playing Some of the finest players in the world tried their hands at management and failed, Bobby Charlton , Bobby Moore and Jimmy Greaves for starters. Stilloyal

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