SAM MORSHEAD COLUMN: How to inspire the next set of Swindon Town fans

Sam Morshead

Sam Morshead

First published in Sport

PART of the process of becoming a football fan is dealing with hard times.

While we all embark on our life-long supporting careers with open minds and wide eyes, along the way the magic of the sport is tainted by a run of defeats, miserable performances, terrible players and plenty of squabbling.

However, we always seem to want to come back for more, again and again and again - in that ever-so-sadist manner that would make absolutely no sense in any other sector of the entertainment industry.

Right now, at Swindon Town, we’re going through one of those troughs - where everyone seems to be able to out-Eeyore each other in the doom and gloom department and everything that can go wrong appears to be going wrong all at once.

In reality, of course, it could be a lot worse. The club is one win from what should be guaranteed survival in League One and we’ve had plenty of excitement along the way prior to smashing into an almost immovable wall around the end of January.

But the frustration, quite understandably, is palpable around the County Ground. And it can’t be good for anyone.

For the first time in around two and a half years I ventured back into the stands on Tuesday night; a paying supporter backing my club without my journalistic hat on.

It didn’t feel a thing like I remembered.

That may be down to several months of self-restraint in press boxes up and down the country, where jumping to your feet and sticking up a middle finger at the guys from the opposing paper when Town score a goal is generally frowned upon.

It may be down to my own disillusionment with the club I have followed since I was a boy, borne out of two months of increasingly frosty relations.

It may simply be that I have grown out of being a die-hard football fan. Perhaps I’ve become apathetic. I know I wouldn’t be the only one.

Football matches are places for the working man and woman - white or blue collar, mechanic, waiter, builder, businessman or multi-millionaire - to let off steam. It’s always been an outlet for a week’s blood, sweat and toil to pour out in 90 minutes of unrestrained anger/ecstasy/confusion (delete as applicable).

But at the County Ground now, it seems that the enthusiasm has dissipated and the men and women who flock to SN1 are doing so already convinced that what they are going to see is not worth their time and money.

Sadly, on most occasions this calendar year their preconceptions have been fully justified by a series of turgid performances by Town’s players and, therefore, this vicious cycle repeats itself.

It went through its latest rotation on Tuesday, when a rampant Wolves destroyed Swindon in the first half (£60million of parachute payments does that).

I was sat to the left of a dad and his young daughter, in front of a couple of middle aged gents and to the right of another pair of 40-ish fans.

All of them moaned within the first five minutes. The players responded by steadily getting worse up until half-time and at the break I felt as uncomfortable as I can ever remember being at a Town game.

Maybe I was so wide-eyed at 11 or 12 years old that I didn’t recognise this side of matchdays. If I had, I’m certain I wouldn’t have fallen in love with the game as I did.

To me, and of course it’s only one opinion, the soul is falling out of Swindon Town.

It could be down to any number of factors, ranging from a lack of clear communication between just about every party involved through the deteriorating relationship between the club and its local paper to a series of limp performances which haven’t lived up to expectations.

There isn’t the same feel about the place anymore and it’s up to all of us to correct that.

Now the play-offs are out of reach and relegation shouldn't really be contemplated, why not abandon those preconceptions and pitch up in SN1 willing to give a young group of players a chance?

In return, those players need to understand that they are there to entertain and, with no pressure of a play-off pursuit weighing on their shoulders, perhaps they will be freed up to try the fluid football they produced so brilliantly at the start of the season.

And then, maybe, that vicious cycle will lose its teeth.

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6:37am Sat 15 Mar 14

jayden says...

Well done Sam that's it in a nut shell.
Well done Sam that's it in a nut shell. jayden
  • Score: 16

6:50am Sat 15 Mar 14

Chish and Fips says...

Yep it was also my first game out there for this season - can see where you are coming from.
To me, with the exception of Prichard there was no real spark there, and that first half well enough said...
but .... in context the Wolves are in a good vain of form and we, for what ever reason are struggling really to even raise a side.
Still through 'thick and thin' as the saying goes I'll still support them, I may not be a regular out there, but they are still my favourite team.
Yep it was also my first game out there for this season - can see where you are coming from. To me, with the exception of Prichard there was no real spark there, and that first half well enough said... but .... in context the Wolves are in a good vain of form and we, for what ever reason are struggling really to even raise a side. Still through 'thick and thin' as the saying goes I'll still support them, I may not be a regular out there, but they are still my favourite team. Chish and Fips
  • Score: 3

7:29am Sat 15 Mar 14

Ossie90 says...

Being a Town supporter for 26 years, I could have gone to Bristol City today.
But for the first time ever, I really cant be arsed... Perhaps the players attitute is rubbing off on me?!?!
Being a Town supporter for 26 years, I could have gone to Bristol City today. But for the first time ever, I really cant be arsed... Perhaps the players attitute is rubbing off on me?!?! Ossie90
  • Score: 7

7:44am Sat 15 Mar 14

mandrossian says...

Just one comment - the playoffs aren't actually out of reach yet. A resurgence in form, given Peterborough are also in a slump, and its still possible.
Yes it's unlikely, but it's too early to give up all hope
Just one comment - the playoffs aren't actually out of reach yet. A resurgence in form, given Peterborough are also in a slump, and its still possible. Yes it's unlikely, but it's too early to give up all hope mandrossian
  • Score: -2

8:00am Sat 15 Mar 14

the wizard says...

From above,

It may be down to my own disillusionment with the club I have followed since I was a boy, borne out of two months of increasingly frosty relations.

So things are not better then Sam. In fairness I can't see that there has been anything written by you or anyone else since the Ranger fluff up, (exaggerated by the son of the hairdrier) that should have caused any concern. Just goes to show how fickle Charisma Cooper and Power really are. I'd love to be in Rome today cheering on Lancaster's Lads, but I'll settle for a small pub with good beer and well decent food and some screens, but like you, a big part of me will be watching the scoreboard at City in the hope that we can cause an upset. Hope you have a good trip, and our guys go home smiling, mind you Trevor Kettle will play his part too, that you can guarantee, LOL.
From above, It may be down to my own disillusionment with the club I have followed since I was a boy, borne out of two months of increasingly frosty relations. So things are not better then Sam. In fairness I can't see that there has been anything written by you or anyone else since the Ranger fluff up, (exaggerated by the son of the hairdrier) that should have caused any concern. Just goes to show how fickle Charisma Cooper and Power really are. I'd love to be in Rome today cheering on Lancaster's Lads, but I'll settle for a small pub with good beer and well decent food and some screens, but like you, a big part of me will be watching the scoreboard at City in the hope that we can cause an upset. Hope you have a good trip, and our guys go home smiling, mind you Trevor Kettle will play his part too, that you can guarantee, LOL. the wizard
  • Score: 2

8:02am Sat 15 Mar 14

Ossie90 says...

Oh Jesus.... Don't tell me whistling Kettle has been given todays game??!
Oh Jesus.... Don't tell me whistling Kettle has been given todays game??! Ossie90
  • Score: 1

8:02am Sat 15 Mar 14

umpcah says...

mandrossian wrote:
Just one comment - the playoffs aren't actually out of reach yet. A resurgence in form, given Peterborough are also in a slump, and its still possible.
Yes it's unlikely, but it's too early to give up all hope
With Town performances so poor of late many fans couldn`t care less about the final position other than hoping for League One footie next season. Alas once fans break their fortnightly habit and give the CG a miss many find it easy to become a permanent " stayaway " . Get a new season ticket ? Not likely !
[quote][p][bold]mandrossian[/bold] wrote: Just one comment - the playoffs aren't actually out of reach yet. A resurgence in form, given Peterborough are also in a slump, and its still possible. Yes it's unlikely, but it's too early to give up all hope[/p][/quote]With Town performances so poor of late many fans couldn`t care less about the final position other than hoping for League One footie next season. Alas once fans break their fortnightly habit and give the CG a miss many find it easy to become a permanent " stayaway " . Get a new season ticket ? Not likely ! umpcah
  • Score: -4

8:03am Sat 15 Mar 14

jayden says...

Chish and Fips wrote:
Yep it was also my first game out there for this season - can see where you are coming from.
To me, with the exception of Prichard there was no real spark there, and that first half well enough said...
but .... in context the Wolves are in a good vain of form and we, for what ever reason are struggling really to even raise a side.
Still through 'thick and thin' as the saying goes I'll still support them, I may not be a regular out there, but they are still my favourite team.
Now that you have been to a game you can see why so much doom and gloom .Yes we will be fans for life but to get down to the ground is a chore at the moment I can take getting beat I can take into account players out but lack of effort I can't take. The club still has my money as I am a ST holder but until I can see that we are trying to go forward as a club I will pick and choose from now on. Its not about the money its value for money. Yes cooper has done ok but of late he is talking rubbish and the latest one being that we have no pace at the back so its hard to play the way we do. Before that it was we have to play a certain way to suit the players we have.
We can all see what the problems are but we are not the manager he and lee power should have done some thing about it, yes we have no money I except that but others wheel and deal but we don't seem to. Yes they have this new lad coming in but its far to late now. And no I did not think we would make the play offs but I do worry that the momentum will carry over to next season, and what if power was to pull out before these players they have lined up arrive ?. I had just started taking my Grandson but I can't let him see the Swindon we have now.
[quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: Yep it was also my first game out there for this season - can see where you are coming from. To me, with the exception of Prichard there was no real spark there, and that first half well enough said... but .... in context the Wolves are in a good vain of form and we, for what ever reason are struggling really to even raise a side. Still through 'thick and thin' as the saying goes I'll still support them, I may not be a regular out there, but they are still my favourite team.[/p][/quote]Now that you have been to a game you can see why so much doom and gloom .Yes we will be fans for life but to get down to the ground is a chore at the moment I can take getting beat I can take into account players out but lack of effort I can't take. The club still has my money as I am a ST holder but until I can see that we are trying to go forward as a club I will pick and choose from now on. Its not about the money its value for money. Yes cooper has done ok but of late he is talking rubbish and the latest one being that we have no pace at the back so its hard to play the way we do. Before that it was we have to play a certain way to suit the players we have. We can all see what the problems are but we are not the manager he and lee power should have done some thing about it, yes we have no money I except that but others wheel and deal but we don't seem to. Yes they have this new lad coming in but its far to late now. And no I did not think we would make the play offs but I do worry that the momentum will carry over to next season, and what if power was to pull out before these players they have lined up arrive ?. I had just started taking my Grandson but I can't let him see the Swindon we have now. jayden
  • Score: 7

8:09am Sat 15 Mar 14

smirg kcab says...

No mention of players contracts up at the end of season, with no talks?
Any human being would want to know ASAP where his future lies, that's perhaps why in barkers own words the dressing room has been lost and they don't give two fuucks about cooper or our beloved stfc.
Also this parachute payment, is this the same parachute payment that paid for the same side that we ripped shreds out of at there place?
Anyway I'm going to Ashton gate to support the team, it's out of any fans hands which pathetic tactics he's going to use.
As the song goes
Slip sliding away
Slip sliding away
No mention of players contracts up at the end of season, with no talks? Any human being would want to know ASAP where his future lies, that's perhaps why in barkers own words the dressing room has been lost and they don't give two fuucks about cooper or our beloved stfc. Also this parachute payment, is this the same parachute payment that paid for the same side that we ripped shreds out of at there place? Anyway I'm going to Ashton gate to support the team, it's out of any fans hands which pathetic tactics he's going to use. As the song goes Slip sliding away Slip sliding away smirg kcab
  • Score: 5

8:15am Sat 15 Mar 14

jayden says...

smirg kcab wrote:
No mention of players contracts up at the end of season, with no talks?
Any human being would want to know ASAP where his future lies, that's perhaps why in barkers own words the dressing room has been lost and they don't give two fuucks about cooper or our beloved stfc.
Also this parachute payment, is this the same parachute payment that paid for the same side that we ripped shreds out of at there place?
Anyway I'm going to Ashton gate to support the team, it's out of any fans hands which pathetic tactics he's going to use.
As the song goes
Slip sliding away
Slip sliding away
Cooper's full of magic tricks he's bought a new wand to try and turn things around pity it wasn't a new WARD. All the best to you and the rest of the away fans.
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: No mention of players contracts up at the end of season, with no talks? Any human being would want to know ASAP where his future lies, that's perhaps why in barkers own words the dressing room has been lost and they don't give two fuucks about cooper or our beloved stfc. Also this parachute payment, is this the same parachute payment that paid for the same side that we ripped shreds out of at there place? Anyway I'm going to Ashton gate to support the team, it's out of any fans hands which pathetic tactics he's going to use. As the song goes Slip sliding away Slip sliding away[/p][/quote]Cooper's full of magic tricks he's bought a new wand to try and turn things around pity it wasn't a new WARD. All the best to you and the rest of the away fans. jayden
  • Score: 3

8:20am Sat 15 Mar 14

We are PANTS says...

Ossie90 wrote:
Being a Town supporter for 26 years, I could have gone to Bristol City today.
But for the first time ever, I really cant be arsed... Perhaps the players attitute is rubbing off on me?!?!
I'm glad 2000+ others have a different outlook to you... Being a real fan is not just about the politics but days like this.... It's derby day ffs!!! Passion, bragging rights, a few beers with the lads and hopefully a game to remember... You sit at home cause you can't be arsed!!! I hope we win 8 - 0 just to pi## you off!!!

COYR'sssssss
[quote][p][bold]Ossie90[/bold] wrote: Being a Town supporter for 26 years, I could have gone to Bristol City today. But for the first time ever, I really cant be arsed... Perhaps the players attitute is rubbing off on me?!?![/p][/quote]I'm glad 2000+ others have a different outlook to you... Being a real fan is not just about the politics but days like this.... It's derby day ffs!!! Passion, bragging rights, a few beers with the lads and hopefully a game to remember... You sit at home cause you can't be arsed!!! I hope we win 8 - 0 just to pi## you off!!! COYR'sssssss We are PANTS
  • Score: -2

8:22am Sat 15 Mar 14

We are PANTS says...

smirg kcab wrote:
No mention of players contracts up at the end of season, with no talks?
Any human being would want to know ASAP where his future lies, that's perhaps why in barkers own words the dressing room has been lost and they don't give two fuucks about cooper or our beloved stfc.
Also this parachute payment, is this the same parachute payment that paid for the same side that we ripped shreds out of at there place?
Anyway I'm going to Ashton gate to support the team, it's out of any fans hands which pathetic tactics he's going to use.
As the song goes
Slip sliding away
Slip sliding away
Morning Victor...... Same old tw#tty comments today then!! When you moving north??
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: No mention of players contracts up at the end of season, with no talks? Any human being would want to know ASAP where his future lies, that's perhaps why in barkers own words the dressing room has been lost and they don't give two fuucks about cooper or our beloved stfc. Also this parachute payment, is this the same parachute payment that paid for the same side that we ripped shreds out of at there place? Anyway I'm going to Ashton gate to support the team, it's out of any fans hands which pathetic tactics he's going to use. As the song goes Slip sliding away Slip sliding away[/p][/quote]Morning Victor...... Same old tw#tty comments today then!! When you moving north?? We are PANTS
  • Score: 0

8:25am Sat 15 Mar 14

smirg kcab says...

jayden wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
No mention of players contracts up at the end of season, with no talks?
Any human being would want to know ASAP where his future lies, that's perhaps why in barkers own words the dressing room has been lost and they don't give two fuucks about cooper or our beloved stfc.
Also this parachute payment, is this the same parachute payment that paid for the same side that we ripped shreds out of at there place?
Anyway I'm going to Ashton gate to support the team, it's out of any fans hands which pathetic tactics he's going to use.
As the song goes
Slip sliding away
Slip sliding away
Cooper's full of magic tricks he's bought a new wand to try and turn things around pity it wasn't a new WARD. All the best to you and the rest of the away fans.
Thanks Jayden
Hammering yesterday and woke up feeling the opposite today.
We always get behind the team from the off what happens after 10/20/30 mins is out of our hands.
1-0 today luongo.and this result will let my bets down.
Have a great weekend
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: No mention of players contracts up at the end of season, with no talks? Any human being would want to know ASAP where his future lies, that's perhaps why in barkers own words the dressing room has been lost and they don't give two fuucks about cooper or our beloved stfc. Also this parachute payment, is this the same parachute payment that paid for the same side that we ripped shreds out of at there place? Anyway I'm going to Ashton gate to support the team, it's out of any fans hands which pathetic tactics he's going to use. As the song goes Slip sliding away Slip sliding away[/p][/quote]Cooper's full of magic tricks he's bought a new wand to try and turn things around pity it wasn't a new WARD. All the best to you and the rest of the away fans.[/p][/quote]Thanks Jayden Hammering yesterday and woke up feeling the opposite today. We always get behind the team from the off what happens after 10/20/30 mins is out of our hands. 1-0 today luongo.and this result will let my bets down. Have a great weekend smirg kcab
  • Score: -2

9:09am Sat 15 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

Sam, your use of the word "soul" is spot on. Jayden has summed it up well too. A visit to the County Ground should provoke a raw excitement in the guts. I can honestly say I don't know a single person who feels that way now. This is far from the worst season we've had but in my view it's one of the most soulless. It's not Cooper's fault though. All season the whole thing has felt not like a football club with a beating heart but like some kind of laboratory experiment with no identity. Give us back our football club Mr Power. Start by allowing the manager to abandon the pedestrian training sessions that masquerade as football matches and replace them with some passion. Today is the 15th of March. It would be a great day to start a new era.
Sam, your use of the word "soul" is spot on. Jayden has summed it up well too. A visit to the County Ground should provoke a raw excitement in the guts. I can honestly say I don't know a single person who feels that way now. This is far from the worst season we've had but in my view it's one of the most soulless. It's not Cooper's fault though. All season the whole thing has felt not like a football club with a beating heart but like some kind of laboratory experiment with no identity. Give us back our football club Mr Power. Start by allowing the manager to abandon the pedestrian training sessions that masquerade as football matches and replace them with some passion. Today is the 15th of March. It would be a great day to start a new era. Oi Den!
  • Score: 4

9:49am Sat 15 Mar 14

Since 1950 says...

So many questions on this season still unanswered Sam. There are more questions related to the off field goings on than on it when the inquest on this season gets underway.
We don't really know what motivated Jed to buy the club in the first place. Because he didn't want to see a club go bust? Don't make me laugh. Mystery and denial over board room take overs. We don't even know why key macno showed at FFOR pre season which led to the inexperienced Cooper being given the job. What is the current owners motivation?
That there is no atmosphere at the CG at the moment is not really surprising. There is no leadership or passion firing the team either on or off the park. They seem to have given up. That is being picked up on the terraces.
We have done better, much better than I predicted this season but I do not like the way it's ending for all that. It doesn't bode well for next season and that's there for all, even those with the most rose tinted, to see.
So many questions on this season still unanswered Sam. There are more questions related to the off field goings on than on it when the inquest on this season gets underway. We don't really know what motivated Jed to buy the club in the first place. Because he didn't want to see a club go bust? Don't make me laugh. Mystery and denial over board room take overs. We don't even know why key macno showed at FFOR pre season which led to the inexperienced Cooper being given the job. What is the current owners motivation? That there is no atmosphere at the CG at the moment is not really surprising. There is no leadership or passion firing the team either on or off the park. They seem to have given up. That is being picked up on the terraces. We have done better, much better than I predicted this season but I do not like the way it's ending for all that. It doesn't bode well for next season and that's there for all, even those with the most rose tinted, to see. Since 1950
  • Score: 9

9:52am Sat 15 Mar 14

Since 1950 says...

Since 1950 wrote:
So many questions on this season still unanswered Sam. There are more questions related to the off field goings on than on it when the inquest on this season gets underway.
We don't really know what motivated Jed to buy the club in the first place. Because he didn't want to see a club go bust? Don't make me laugh. Mystery and denial over board room take overs. We don't even know why key macno showed at FFOR pre season which led to the inexperienced Cooper being given the job. What is the current owners motivation?
That there is no atmosphere at the CG at the moment is not really surprising. There is no leadership or passion firing the team either on or off the park. They seem to have given up. That is being picked up on the terraces.
We have done better, much better than I predicted this season but I do not like the way it's ending for all that. It doesn't bode well for next season and that's there for all, even those with the most rose tinted, to see.
Sboulx read ^We don't even know why kevmac no showed at FGR pre season. Sorry predictive txt on this smartphone.
[quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: So many questions on this season still unanswered Sam. There are more questions related to the off field goings on than on it when the inquest on this season gets underway. We don't really know what motivated Jed to buy the club in the first place. Because he didn't want to see a club go bust? Don't make me laugh. Mystery and denial over board room take overs. We don't even know why key macno showed at FFOR pre season which led to the inexperienced Cooper being given the job. What is the current owners motivation? That there is no atmosphere at the CG at the moment is not really surprising. There is no leadership or passion firing the team either on or off the park. They seem to have given up. That is being picked up on the terraces. We have done better, much better than I predicted this season but I do not like the way it's ending for all that. It doesn't bode well for next season and that's there for all, even those with the most rose tinted, to see.[/p][/quote]Sboulx read ^We don't even know why kevmac no showed at FGR pre season. Sorry predictive txt on this smartphone. Since 1950
  • Score: 2

9:56am Sat 15 Mar 14

Since 1950 says...

jayden wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
Yep it was also my first game out there for this season - can see where you are coming from.
To me, with the exception of Prichard there was no real spark there, and that first half well enough said...
but .... in context the Wolves are in a good vain of form and we, for what ever reason are struggling really to even raise a side.
Still through 'thick and thin' as the saying goes I'll still support them, I may not be a regular out there, but they are still my favourite team.
Now that you have been to a game you can see why so much doom and gloom .Yes we will be fans for life but to get down to the ground is a chore at the moment I can take getting beat I can take into account players out but lack of effort I can't take. The club still has my money as I am a ST holder but until I can see that we are trying to go forward as a club I will pick and choose from now on. Its not about the money its value for money. Yes cooper has done ok but of late he is talking rubbish and the latest one being that we have no pace at the back so its hard to play the way we do. Before that it was we have to play a certain way to suit the players we have.
We can all see what the problems are but we are not the manager he and lee power should have done some thing about it, yes we have no money I except that but others wheel and deal but we don't seem to. Yes they have this new lad coming in but its far to late now. And no I did not think we would make the play offs but I do worry that the momentum will carry over to next season, and what if power was to pull out before these players they have lined up arrive ?. I had just started taking my Grandson but I can't let him see the Swindon we have now.
Take your grandson! Get the red shirt on his back. I saw some awful stuff Iin the 50's but it got Town into my blood.
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: Yep it was also my first game out there for this season - can see where you are coming from. To me, with the exception of Prichard there was no real spark there, and that first half well enough said... but .... in context the Wolves are in a good vain of form and we, for what ever reason are struggling really to even raise a side. Still through 'thick and thin' as the saying goes I'll still support them, I may not be a regular out there, but they are still my favourite team.[/p][/quote]Now that you have been to a game you can see why so much doom and gloom .Yes we will be fans for life but to get down to the ground is a chore at the moment I can take getting beat I can take into account players out but lack of effort I can't take. The club still has my money as I am a ST holder but until I can see that we are trying to go forward as a club I will pick and choose from now on. Its not about the money its value for money. Yes cooper has done ok but of late he is talking rubbish and the latest one being that we have no pace at the back so its hard to play the way we do. Before that it was we have to play a certain way to suit the players we have. We can all see what the problems are but we are not the manager he and lee power should have done some thing about it, yes we have no money I except that but others wheel and deal but we don't seem to. Yes they have this new lad coming in but its far to late now. And no I did not think we would make the play offs but I do worry that the momentum will carry over to next season, and what if power was to pull out before these players they have lined up arrive ?. I had just started taking my Grandson but I can't let him see the Swindon we have now.[/p][/quote]Take your grandson! Get the red shirt on his back. I saw some awful stuff Iin the 50's but it got Town into my blood. Since 1950
  • Score: 4

10:02am Sat 15 Mar 14

Cleuso says...

In the words of the song "when the going gets tough, the tough get going".

Trouble is for many "get going" means "abandoning ship" at the merest hint of a bad result or two...for others it means you do all you can to support the club arnd help them through the crisis.

If anyone thinks that not renewing a seson ticket will somehow provide all the quality they desire then they are sadly deluded. Although I respect it is their choice it is, but to snipe from the sidelines whilst showing the commitment and resilience of a block of ice in a heatwave is a road to nowhere.

Just ask Gerald Ratner and see where that got him.
In the words of the song "when the going gets tough, the tough get going". Trouble is for many "get going" means "abandoning ship" at the merest hint of a bad result or two...for others it means you do all you can to support the club arnd help them through the crisis. If anyone thinks that not renewing a seson ticket will somehow provide all the quality they desire then they are sadly deluded. Although I respect it is their choice it is, but to snipe from the sidelines whilst showing the commitment and resilience of a block of ice in a heatwave is a road to nowhere. Just ask Gerald Ratner and see where that got him. Cleuso
  • Score: 4

10:16am Sat 15 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

Cleuso wrote:
In the words of the song "when the going gets tough, the tough get going".

Trouble is for many "get going" means "abandoning ship" at the merest hint of a bad result or two...for others it means you do all you can to support the club arnd help them through the crisis.

If anyone thinks that not renewing a seson ticket will somehow provide all the quality they desire then they are sadly deluded. Although I respect it is their choice it is, but to snipe from the sidelines whilst showing the commitment and resilience of a block of ice in a heatwave is a road to nowhere.

Just ask Gerald Ratner and see where that got him.
Missing the point completely. It's not about one or two results. It's about an alarming trend and the sense that the football club is going backwards. It's easy to rubbish people's concerns without advancing a case of your own. Why don't you give us your view of the chairman, the manager and the football you are seeing at the moment?
[quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: In the words of the song "when the going gets tough, the tough get going". Trouble is for many "get going" means "abandoning ship" at the merest hint of a bad result or two...for others it means you do all you can to support the club arnd help them through the crisis. If anyone thinks that not renewing a seson ticket will somehow provide all the quality they desire then they are sadly deluded. Although I respect it is their choice it is, but to snipe from the sidelines whilst showing the commitment and resilience of a block of ice in a heatwave is a road to nowhere. Just ask Gerald Ratner and see where that got him.[/p][/quote]Missing the point completely. It's not about one or two results. It's about an alarming trend and the sense that the football club is going backwards. It's easy to rubbish people's concerns without advancing a case of your own. Why don't you give us your view of the chairman, the manager and the football you are seeing at the moment? Oi Den!
  • Score: 0

11:33am Sat 15 Mar 14

smirg kcab says...

We are PANTS wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
No mention of players contracts up at the end of season, with no talks?
Any human being would want to know ASAP where his future lies, that's perhaps why in barkers own words the dressing room has been lost and they don't give two fuucks about cooper or our beloved stfc.
Also this parachute payment, is this the same parachute payment that paid for the same side that we ripped shreds out of at there place?
Anyway I'm going to Ashton gate to support the team, it's out of any fans hands which pathetic tactics he's going to use.
As the song goes
Slip sliding away
Slip sliding away
Morning Victor...... Same old tw#tty comments today then!! When you moving north??
Morning twaaat features
[quote][p][bold]We are PANTS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: No mention of players contracts up at the end of season, with no talks? Any human being would want to know ASAP where his future lies, that's perhaps why in barkers own words the dressing room has been lost and they don't give two fuucks about cooper or our beloved stfc. Also this parachute payment, is this the same parachute payment that paid for the same side that we ripped shreds out of at there place? Anyway I'm going to Ashton gate to support the team, it's out of any fans hands which pathetic tactics he's going to use. As the song goes Slip sliding away Slip sliding away[/p][/quote]Morning Victor...... Same old tw#tty comments today then!! When you moving north??[/p][/quote]Morning twaaat features smirg kcab
  • Score: 2

12:42pm Sat 15 Mar 14

jayden says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Sam, your use of the word "soul" is spot on. Jayden has summed it up well too. A visit to the County Ground should provoke a raw excitement in the guts. I can honestly say I don't know a single person who feels that way now. This is far from the worst season we've had but in my view it's one of the most soulless. It's not Cooper's fault though. All season the whole thing has felt not like a football club with a beating heart but like some kind of laboratory experiment with no identity. Give us back our football club Mr Power. Start by allowing the manager to abandon the pedestrian training sessions that masquerade as football matches and replace them with some passion. Today is the 15th of March. It would be a great day to start a new era.
Cheers Den the whole club needs a pick me up and I also don't blame cooper or power or Jed or black PDC for what has gone has gone but it needs someone to grab the bull by the horns and show us fans where we are heading . Yes I would love the championship but there is no way we can get there the way we are heading so if its to be div 1 so be it but lets play football and compete with other teams with a set of tactics to out wit other teams and mix the play up least then I would have a bit more faith in the team on the park .Win lose or draw as long as we give a go that is all I ask.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Sam, your use of the word "soul" is spot on. Jayden has summed it up well too. A visit to the County Ground should provoke a raw excitement in the guts. I can honestly say I don't know a single person who feels that way now. This is far from the worst season we've had but in my view it's one of the most soulless. It's not Cooper's fault though. All season the whole thing has felt not like a football club with a beating heart but like some kind of laboratory experiment with no identity. Give us back our football club Mr Power. Start by allowing the manager to abandon the pedestrian training sessions that masquerade as football matches and replace them with some passion. Today is the 15th of March. It would be a great day to start a new era.[/p][/quote]Cheers Den the whole club needs a pick me up and I also don't blame cooper or power or Jed or black PDC for what has gone has gone but it needs someone to grab the bull by the horns and show us fans where we are heading . Yes I would love the championship but there is no way we can get there the way we are heading so if its to be div 1 so be it but lets play football and compete with other teams with a set of tactics to out wit other teams and mix the play up least then I would have a bit more faith in the team on the park .Win lose or draw as long as we give a go that is all I ask. jayden
  • Score: 2

2:10pm Sat 15 Mar 14

mancrobin says...

jayden wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Sam, your use of the word "soul" is spot on. Jayden has summed it up well too. A visit to the County Ground should provoke a raw excitement in the guts. I can honestly say I don't know a single person who feels that way now. This is far from the worst season we've had but in my view it's one of the most soulless. It's not Cooper's fault though. All season the whole thing has felt not like a football club with a beating heart but like some kind of laboratory experiment with no identity. Give us back our football club Mr Power. Start by allowing the manager to abandon the pedestrian training sessions that masquerade as football matches and replace them with some passion. Today is the 15th of March. It would be a great day to start a new era.
Cheers Den the whole club needs a pick me up and I also don't blame cooper or power or Jed or black PDC for what has gone has gone but it needs someone to grab the bull by the horns and show us fans where we are heading . Yes I would love the championship but there is no way we can get there the way we are heading so if its to be div 1 so be it but lets play football and compete with other teams with a set of tactics to out wit other teams and mix the play up least then I would have a bit more faith in the team on the park .Win lose or draw as long as we give a go that is all I ask.
Well I'm afraid Jayden that I do blame PdC. The Meglomaniac is the reason this Club is in the position it is. He created a fanfare of glitz and publicity, controversy and success built on a limitless cheque book.

In comparison of course the harsh lessons of reality are going to look a bit dull and soulless at times. But has it really been all dull and without soul? Away to Wolves, Port Vale and Crewe certainly were not.

Patience and perspective is what is needed.

In footbal people are too quick to judge and too quick to get carried away by a charlatan. That's the story of our Club over the past 4 years.
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Sam, your use of the word "soul" is spot on. Jayden has summed it up well too. A visit to the County Ground should provoke a raw excitement in the guts. I can honestly say I don't know a single person who feels that way now. This is far from the worst season we've had but in my view it's one of the most soulless. It's not Cooper's fault though. All season the whole thing has felt not like a football club with a beating heart but like some kind of laboratory experiment with no identity. Give us back our football club Mr Power. Start by allowing the manager to abandon the pedestrian training sessions that masquerade as football matches and replace them with some passion. Today is the 15th of March. It would be a great day to start a new era.[/p][/quote]Cheers Den the whole club needs a pick me up and I also don't blame cooper or power or Jed or black PDC for what has gone has gone but it needs someone to grab the bull by the horns and show us fans where we are heading . Yes I would love the championship but there is no way we can get there the way we are heading so if its to be div 1 so be it but lets play football and compete with other teams with a set of tactics to out wit other teams and mix the play up least then I would have a bit more faith in the team on the park .Win lose or draw as long as we give a go that is all I ask.[/p][/quote]Well I'm afraid Jayden that I do blame PdC. The Meglomaniac is the reason this Club is in the position it is. He created a fanfare of glitz and publicity, controversy and success built on a limitless cheque book. In comparison of course the harsh lessons of reality are going to look a bit dull and soulless at times. But has it really been all dull and without soul? Away to Wolves, Port Vale and Crewe certainly were not. Patience and perspective is what is needed. In footbal people are too quick to judge and too quick to get carried away by a charlatan. That's the story of our Club over the past 4 years. mancrobin
  • Score: 1

4:14pm Sat 15 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

Not all dull, manc. We've had our moments of course but there's been a general lack of oomph about the club all season.

I agree with you on PDC. Not only did he wreck our dream, he wrecked his own as well. He had it made at STFC. If he could have reined in his ridiculous demands, with his coaching ability and Andrew Black's money, he might have taken us all the way to the top flight. It can't be denied that he brought us great excitement though - something which is as rare as hen's teeth these days.
Not all dull, manc. We've had our moments of course but there's been a general lack of oomph about the club all season. I agree with you on PDC. Not only did he wreck our dream, he wrecked his own as well. He had it made at STFC. If he could have reined in his ridiculous demands, with his coaching ability and Andrew Black's money, he might have taken us all the way to the top flight. It can't be denied that he brought us great excitement though - something which is as rare as hen's teeth these days. Oi Den!
  • Score: 0

9:46pm Sat 15 Mar 14

Cleuso says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Cleuso wrote:
In the words of the song "when the going gets tough, the tough get going".

Trouble is for many "get going" means "abandoning ship" at the merest hint of a bad result or two...for others it means you do all you can to support the club arnd help them through the crisis.

If anyone thinks that not renewing a seson ticket will somehow provide all the quality they desire then they are sadly deluded. Although I respect it is their choice it is, but to snipe from the sidelines whilst showing the commitment and resilience of a block of ice in a heatwave is a road to nowhere.

Just ask Gerald Ratner and see where that got him.
Missing the point completely. It's not about one or two results. It's about an alarming trend and the sense that the football club is going backwards. It's easy to rubbish people's concerns without advancing a case of your own. Why don't you give us your view of the chairman, the manager and the football you are seeing at the moment?
East peasy the answer to that one.... Rome wasn't built in a day and given the manager and chairman have not yet been in charge for a season, its far too early to call it a failure particularly given the recent injury crisis where many of what would be the first choice team have been unavailable.

Obviously there will be mistakes along the way whilst, the key is long term they learn from them and progress is seen over time which is longer than a single season.

I guess you come from the camp that prefers instant rather than
proper custard on your puddings.

I can accept that we wont be stylish or win every game, but going to the grim Ashton gate and grinding out a result with 10 men, where many of our teams have failed in the past is a result.... Won't have me praisng the manager or chairman or manager unduly, neither will they get criticism next week if we lose to Preston .....Nor should they..only the short term disciples call it that way... 10 games aint a trend, it may be a blip...but only time and patience will tell... the impatient ones always shout the loudest - ever listen to them in a queue ?

The shame will be if the impatient ones get there way..then we will never ever have any stability or be able to build the club up as soon as you hit that blip there will be calls for a change.... that change then becomes temporary as another blip comes along.

For now we are a third tier club ...we should get used to it..its been the norm for more seasons than a few - that should not be regarded as failure...

Keep shouting out in the style of Gerald Ratner about the performances and you will eventually drive away all hope of progress....even if we win a few games along the way...
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: In the words of the song "when the going gets tough, the tough get going". Trouble is for many "get going" means "abandoning ship" at the merest hint of a bad result or two...for others it means you do all you can to support the club arnd help them through the crisis. If anyone thinks that not renewing a seson ticket will somehow provide all the quality they desire then they are sadly deluded. Although I respect it is their choice it is, but to snipe from the sidelines whilst showing the commitment and resilience of a block of ice in a heatwave is a road to nowhere. Just ask Gerald Ratner and see where that got him.[/p][/quote]Missing the point completely. It's not about one or two results. It's about an alarming trend and the sense that the football club is going backwards. It's easy to rubbish people's concerns without advancing a case of your own. Why don't you give us your view of the chairman, the manager and the football you are seeing at the moment?[/p][/quote]East peasy the answer to that one.... Rome wasn't built in a day and given the manager and chairman have not yet been in charge for a season, its far too early to call it a failure particularly given the recent injury crisis where many of what would be the first choice team have been unavailable. Obviously there will be mistakes along the way whilst, the key is long term they learn from them and progress is seen over time which is longer than a single season. I guess you come from the camp that prefers instant rather than proper custard on your puddings. I can accept that we wont be stylish or win every game, but going to the grim Ashton gate and grinding out a result with 10 men, where many of our teams have failed in the past is a result.... Won't have me praisng the manager or chairman or manager unduly, neither will they get criticism next week if we lose to Preston .....Nor should they..only the short term disciples call it that way... 10 games aint a trend, it may be a blip...but only time and patience will tell... the impatient ones always shout the loudest - ever listen to them in a queue ? The shame will be if the impatient ones get there way..then we will never ever have any stability or be able to build the club up as soon as you hit that blip there will be calls for a change.... that change then becomes temporary as another blip comes along. For now we are a third tier club ...we should get used to it..its been the norm for more seasons than a few - that should not be regarded as failure... Keep shouting out in the style of Gerald Ratner about the performances and you will eventually drive away all hope of progress....even if we win a few games along the way... Cleuso
  • Score: 1

10:06pm Sat 15 Mar 14

leader1111 says...

A fan since a young boy in 1955 I like many have lost my enthusiasm. It's not that I won't follow the Town, or hope that they succeed, but I truly don't see that happening with the current ownership and leaders. Yes, we must balance the books, and there were very good loan and town players early this year. Most will not be here next year. To be honest I have NO interest in endless mid-table First Division football, or relegation to the Second, or constantly selling everyone with a bit of talent. Realistically, STFC should be a mid-table Championship team, and keep all the "good ones" that come our way. Anything else is guaranteed mediocrity.
A fan since a young boy in 1955 I like many have lost my enthusiasm. It's not that I won't follow the Town, or hope that they succeed, but I truly don't see that happening with the current ownership and leaders. Yes, we must balance the books, and there were very good loan and town players early this year. Most will not be here next year. To be honest I have NO interest in endless mid-table First Division football, or relegation to the Second, or constantly selling everyone with a bit of talent. Realistically, STFC should be a mid-table Championship team, and keep all the "good ones" that come our way. Anything else is guaranteed mediocrity. leader1111
  • Score: 1

8:50am Sun 16 Mar 14

spudandpops says...

I'm a season ticket holder and I will renew next season , This season aint been a bad when you consider the mess we were in ! .We need to get behind them and stop moaning ,I like the style of football we try and play as it's a lot better than what we have around us t ..We have decent players and a decent manager . Give them a chance , who knows what we can achieve next season ? The best thing would be , if we got behind the club & attracted more support , who knows how far we could go ?
P.S. I think yesterday was a good result playing an inform team with 10 men ! , Also - SAM , please go and visit the chairman and sort out your differences , then use your words to inspire people back to the County Ground. ( no offence ment )
I'm a season ticket holder and I will renew next season , This season aint been a bad when you consider the mess we were in ! .We need to get behind them and stop moaning ,I like the style of football we try and play as it's a lot better than what we have around us t .[ look at City for example , they spent a fortune and made a right mess ].We have decent players [ one of which is being voted player of the year twice ] and a decent manager . Give them a chance , who knows what we can achieve next season ? The best thing would be , if we got behind the club & attracted more support , who knows how far we could go ? P.S. I think yesterday was a good result playing an inform team with 10 men ! , Also - SAM , please go and visit the chairman and sort out your differences , then use your words to inspire people back to the County Ground. ( no offence ment ) spudandpops
  • Score: 0

9:46am Sun 16 Mar 14

jayden says...

Cleuso wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Cleuso wrote:
In the words of the song "when the going gets tough, the tough get going".

Trouble is for many "get going" means "abandoning ship" at the merest hint of a bad result or two...for others it means you do all you can to support the club arnd help them through the crisis.

If anyone thinks that not renewing a seson ticket will somehow provide all the quality they desire then they are sadly deluded. Although I respect it is their choice it is, but to snipe from the sidelines whilst showing the commitment and resilience of a block of ice in a heatwave is a road to nowhere.

Just ask Gerald Ratner and see where that got him.
Missing the point completely. It's not about one or two results. It's about an alarming trend and the sense that the football club is going backwards. It's easy to rubbish people's concerns without advancing a case of your own. Why don't you give us your view of the chairman, the manager and the football you are seeing at the moment?
East peasy the answer to that one.... Rome wasn't built in a day and given the manager and chairman have not yet been in charge for a season, its far too early to call it a failure particularly given the recent injury crisis where many of what would be the first choice team have been unavailable.

Obviously there will be mistakes along the way whilst, the key is long term they learn from them and progress is seen over time which is longer than a single season.

I guess you come from the camp that prefers instant rather than
proper custard on your puddings.

I can accept that we wont be stylish or win every game, but going to the grim Ashton gate and grinding out a result with 10 men, where many of our teams have failed in the past is a result.... Won't have me praisng the manager or chairman or manager unduly, neither will they get criticism next week if we lose to Preston .....Nor should they..only the short term disciples call it that way... 10 games aint a trend, it may be a blip...but only time and patience will tell... the impatient ones always shout the loudest - ever listen to them in a queue ?

The shame will be if the impatient ones get there way..then we will never ever have any stability or be able to build the club up as soon as you hit that blip there will be calls for a change.... that change then becomes temporary as another blip comes along.

For now we are a third tier club ...we should get used to it..its been the norm for more seasons than a few - that should not be regarded as failure...

Keep shouting out in the style of Gerald Ratner about the performances and you will eventually drive away all hope of progress....even if we win a few games along the way...
Repeating a good joke is like passing the ball side ways and backwards its good once but then gets tedious and to a point boring.
[quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: In the words of the song "when the going gets tough, the tough get going". Trouble is for many "get going" means "abandoning ship" at the merest hint of a bad result or two...for others it means you do all you can to support the club arnd help them through the crisis. If anyone thinks that not renewing a seson ticket will somehow provide all the quality they desire then they are sadly deluded. Although I respect it is their choice it is, but to snipe from the sidelines whilst showing the commitment and resilience of a block of ice in a heatwave is a road to nowhere. Just ask Gerald Ratner and see where that got him.[/p][/quote]Missing the point completely. It's not about one or two results. It's about an alarming trend and the sense that the football club is going backwards. It's easy to rubbish people's concerns without advancing a case of your own. Why don't you give us your view of the chairman, the manager and the football you are seeing at the moment?[/p][/quote]East peasy the answer to that one.... Rome wasn't built in a day and given the manager and chairman have not yet been in charge for a season, its far too early to call it a failure particularly given the recent injury crisis where many of what would be the first choice team have been unavailable. Obviously there will be mistakes along the way whilst, the key is long term they learn from them and progress is seen over time which is longer than a single season. I guess you come from the camp that prefers instant rather than proper custard on your puddings. I can accept that we wont be stylish or win every game, but going to the grim Ashton gate and grinding out a result with 10 men, where many of our teams have failed in the past is a result.... Won't have me praisng the manager or chairman or manager unduly, neither will they get criticism next week if we lose to Preston .....Nor should they..only the short term disciples call it that way... 10 games aint a trend, it may be a blip...but only time and patience will tell... the impatient ones always shout the loudest - ever listen to them in a queue ? The shame will be if the impatient ones get there way..then we will never ever have any stability or be able to build the club up as soon as you hit that blip there will be calls for a change.... that change then becomes temporary as another blip comes along. For now we are a third tier club ...we should get used to it..its been the norm for more seasons than a few - that should not be regarded as failure... Keep shouting out in the style of Gerald Ratner about the performances and you will eventually drive away all hope of progress....even if we win a few games along the way...[/p][/quote]Repeating a good joke is like passing the ball side ways and backwards its good once but then gets tedious and to a point boring. jayden
  • Score: 0

9:53am Sun 16 Mar 14

Oi Den! says...

Cleuso wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Cleuso wrote:
In the words of the song "when the going gets tough, the tough get going".

Trouble is for many "get going" means "abandoning ship" at the merest hint of a bad result or two...for others it means you do all you can to support the club arnd help them through the crisis.

If anyone thinks that not renewing a seson ticket will somehow provide all the quality they desire then they are sadly deluded. Although I respect it is their choice it is, but to snipe from the sidelines whilst showing the commitment and resilience of a block of ice in a heatwave is a road to nowhere.

Just ask Gerald Ratner and see where that got him.
Missing the point completely. It's not about one or two results. It's about an alarming trend and the sense that the football club is going backwards. It's easy to rubbish people's concerns without advancing a case of your own. Why don't you give us your view of the chairman, the manager and the football you are seeing at the moment?
East peasy the answer to that one.... Rome wasn't built in a day and given the manager and chairman have not yet been in charge for a season, its far too early to call it a failure particularly given the recent injury crisis where many of what would be the first choice team have been unavailable.

Obviously there will be mistakes along the way whilst, the key is long term they learn from them and progress is seen over time which is longer than a single season.

I guess you come from the camp that prefers instant rather than
proper custard on your puddings.

I can accept that we wont be stylish or win every game, but going to the grim Ashton gate and grinding out a result with 10 men, where many of our teams have failed in the past is a result.... Won't have me praisng the manager or chairman or manager unduly, neither will they get criticism next week if we lose to Preston .....Nor should they..only the short term disciples call it that way... 10 games aint a trend, it may be a blip...but only time and patience will tell... the impatient ones always shout the loudest - ever listen to them in a queue ?

The shame will be if the impatient ones get there way..then we will never ever have any stability or be able to build the club up as soon as you hit that blip there will be calls for a change.... that change then becomes temporary as another blip comes along.

For now we are a third tier club ...we should get used to it..its been the norm for more seasons than a few - that should not be regarded as failure...

Keep shouting out in the style of Gerald Ratner about the performances and you will eventually drive away all hope of progress....even if we win a few games along the way...
Well, you've done a very good job of distorting my argument. I've never demanded instant success, particularly this season when it was obvious that survival would be an achievement In itself. I've been unstinting in my support for the manager and I don't advocate regime change at the top of the club.
But look at the facts: gates have dwindled and the people who are staying away seem to be unanimous in their reasoning - the football is very dull. I make no apology for agreeing with them. If I thought the opposite I would be cajoling everyone I know to get down to the County Ground - something I've done many times in the past.

Power has a choice. He can continue with the experiment in the hope that his recruitment policy and brand of football achieve some degree of success or he can recognise what is needed to inspire the people in the Swindon area to support their team. There are diehard fans, there are floaters and there are people who will seize any excuse not to go. And let's not forget that many Town followers live a long way from the County Ground. Some have to spend a lot of time and money just getting to games, let alone the cost of the matches themselves. Many of them will now be thinking very carefully about making the commitment to attend.

Yesterday's result was excellent - no two ways about that. Whether it has stopped the rot or not remains to be seen. A run of 10 poor games isn't a trend? You cannot be serious; it's a relegation trend. I'm just grateful that Cooper achieved good results earlier in the season and that the better weather is now coming around, giving our players more of a chance of success. But it'll be winter again in November.
[quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cleuso[/bold] wrote: In the words of the song "when the going gets tough, the tough get going". Trouble is for many "get going" means "abandoning ship" at the merest hint of a bad result or two...for others it means you do all you can to support the club arnd help them through the crisis. If anyone thinks that not renewing a seson ticket will somehow provide all the quality they desire then they are sadly deluded. Although I respect it is their choice it is, but to snipe from the sidelines whilst showing the commitment and resilience of a block of ice in a heatwave is a road to nowhere. Just ask Gerald Ratner and see where that got him.[/p][/quote]Missing the point completely. It's not about one or two results. It's about an alarming trend and the sense that the football club is going backwards. It's easy to rubbish people's concerns without advancing a case of your own. Why don't you give us your view of the chairman, the manager and the football you are seeing at the moment?[/p][/quote]East peasy the answer to that one.... Rome wasn't built in a day and given the manager and chairman have not yet been in charge for a season, its far too early to call it a failure particularly given the recent injury crisis where many of what would be the first choice team have been unavailable. Obviously there will be mistakes along the way whilst, the key is long term they learn from them and progress is seen over time which is longer than a single season. I guess you come from the camp that prefers instant rather than proper custard on your puddings. I can accept that we wont be stylish or win every game, but going to the grim Ashton gate and grinding out a result with 10 men, where many of our teams have failed in the past is a result.... Won't have me praisng the manager or chairman or manager unduly, neither will they get criticism next week if we lose to Preston .....Nor should they..only the short term disciples call it that way... 10 games aint a trend, it may be a blip...but only time and patience will tell... the impatient ones always shout the loudest - ever listen to them in a queue ? The shame will be if the impatient ones get there way..then we will never ever have any stability or be able to build the club up as soon as you hit that blip there will be calls for a change.... that change then becomes temporary as another blip comes along. For now we are a third tier club ...we should get used to it..its been the norm for more seasons than a few - that should not be regarded as failure... Keep shouting out in the style of Gerald Ratner about the performances and you will eventually drive away all hope of progress....even if we win a few games along the way...[/p][/quote]Well, you've done a very good job of distorting my argument. I've never demanded instant success, particularly this season when it was obvious that survival would be an achievement In itself. I've been unstinting in my support for the manager and I don't advocate regime change at the top of the club. But look at the facts: gates have dwindled and the people who are staying away seem to be unanimous in their reasoning - the football is very dull. I make no apology for agreeing with them. If I thought the opposite I would be cajoling everyone I know to get down to the County Ground - something I've done many times in the past. Power has a choice. He can continue with the experiment in the hope that his recruitment policy and brand of football achieve some degree of success or he can recognise what is needed to inspire the people in the Swindon area to support their team. There are diehard fans, there are floaters and there are people who will seize any excuse not to go. And let's not forget that many Town followers live a long way from the County Ground. Some have to spend a lot of time and money just getting to games, let alone the cost of the matches themselves. Many of them will now be thinking very carefully about making the commitment to attend. Yesterday's result was excellent - no two ways about that. Whether it has stopped the rot or not remains to be seen. A run of 10 poor games isn't a trend? You cannot be serious; it's a relegation trend. I'm just grateful that Cooper achieved good results earlier in the season and that the better weather is now coming around, giving our players more of a chance of success. But it'll be winter again in November. Oi Den!
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oo-r-ya? says...

spudandpops wrote:
I'm a season ticket holder and I will renew next season , This season aint been a bad when you consider the mess we were in ! .We need to get behind them and stop moaning ,I like the style of football we try and play as it's a lot better than what we have around us t ..We have decent players and a decent manager . Give them a chance , who knows what we can achieve next season ? The best thing would be , if we got behind the club & attracted more support , who knows how far we could go ?
P.S. I think yesterday was a good result playing an inform team with 10 men ! , Also - SAM , please go and visit the chairman and sort out your differences , then use your words to inspire people back to the County Ground. ( no offence ment )
Spot on. We have been and always will be a third tier club because of the size of our following. We have ups and downs but this is our level. I accept that some of our performances this season have been soul less but I have seen worse in the past. Town have been in my blood since I saw Sir Don score a couple in my first game as a seven year old. I have not even lived in the area since 1970 but still have a season ticket. It's quite simple - if you won't accept football has up and downs like life in general you should go and support Man Utd - aah but wait a minute, their fans are moaning too.
[quote][p][bold]spudandpops[/bold] wrote: I'm a season ticket holder and I will renew next season , This season aint been a bad when you consider the mess we were in ! .We need to get behind them and stop moaning ,I like the style of football we try and play as it's a lot better than what we have around us t .[ look at City for example , they spent a fortune and made a right mess ].We have decent players [ one of which is being voted player of the year twice ] and a decent manager . Give them a chance , who knows what we can achieve next season ? The best thing would be , if we got behind the club & attracted more support , who knows how far we could go ? P.S. I think yesterday was a good result playing an inform team with 10 men ! , Also - SAM , please go and visit the chairman and sort out your differences , then use your words to inspire people back to the County Ground. ( no offence ment )[/p][/quote]Spot on. We have been and always will be a third tier club because of the size of our following. We have ups and downs but this is our level. I accept that some of our performances this season have been soul less but I have seen worse in the past. Town have been in my blood since I saw Sir Don score a couple in my first game as a seven year old. I have not even lived in the area since 1970 but still have a season ticket. It's quite simple - if you won't accept football has up and downs like life in general you should go and support Man Utd - aah but wait a minute, their fans are moaning too. oo-r-ya?
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