Staff at Great Western Hospital in row about hygiene

Swindon Advertiser: GMB branch secretary Andy Newman GMB branch secretary Andy Newman

HOSPITAL workers are risking spreading infections by moving between kitchens and cleaning jobs on wards without changing their clothes, according to union officials.

Staff employed by Great Western Hospital contractor Carillion have allegedly been transferred from the kitchens in their catering uniforms to other areas before returning to carry out cooking duties.

The practices contravene best practice, according to the GMB, which brought up the complaints at Swindon Council’s Health Overview and Scrutiny Committee.

Chris Watts, of the GMB Swindon and Wiltshire branch, said: “GMB has received information from our members of work practices that contravene infection control best practice at GWH. It has been reported that cleaners are being moved from ward to ward in a single shift and have also been moved between surgical areas and wards.

“We have also received information that staff working in catering have been moved from the kitchens in their catering uniforms to clean wards, and then sent back into the kitchens with the same uniforms.”

GMB branch secretary Andy Newman said: “This is an example of what happens when a private company that prioritises profits above patient care gets involved in the NHS. Carillion seem to be engaging in petty cost cutting, and bullying their staff into silence"

Gemma Lynch, Carllion facilities general manager, said: “Carillion is increasingly frustrated that the GMB continues to stir up discontent at the Great Western Hospital where it does not represent the majority of our staff, and is not recognised.

“In August we offered in good faith to enter talks with the GMB via ACAS to resolve this dispute. Sadly these talks were declared finished by the GMB on the day they opened – October 10.”

Mrs Lynch added: “We are ensuring that high standards are being maintained at the hospital at all times.

“There is no cost cutting as the GMB alleges and nothing that would compromise the standard of our services to patients and the Trust who remain our priority.

“There is a requirement for all staff to work flexibly to meet the needs of the business and the Trust which, sometimes, will require a change to the area in which they work.

“In these instances strict infection and control procedures are followed. Carillion maintains an excellent relationship with the Trust infection and prevention control team and works in partnership to ensure standards are met at all times.”

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10:18am Tue 20 Nov 12

The Real Librarian says...

Carllion should really stop being so nice. Take the gloves off guys.

Andy Newman is an evile little ****-stirrer who is provoking this dispute for his own selfish ends and the benefit of his employers.

This latest stunt is typical of the man, putting an unproven, unsubstantiated smear story in the media which will linger like a **** in a lift.

The key phrase in the above article is this.

QUOTE
the GMB continues to stir up discontent at the Great Western Hospital where it does not represent the majority of our staff, and is not recognised.
UNQUOTE

"IS NOT RECOGNISED!"

Get the point Andy - You are not wanted there. You are not part of the conversation. They have arrangements for dealing with their staff and these are nothing to do with you or the GMB! The clue is in the name, BTW, the GMB are the "General Municipal Boilermakers!" How out of date is that! Andy has a cheek lecturing a modern company like Carillon on how to operate; his organisation is still stuck in the 19th century.

Anyway, enough is enough. If Andy doesn't go away and take his freak-show with him, Carillon should get a restraining order, banning him from the hospital unless he is actually ill.
Carllion should really stop being so nice. Take the gloves off guys. Andy Newman is an evile little ****-stirrer who is provoking this dispute for his own selfish ends and the benefit of his employers. This latest stunt is typical of the man, putting an unproven, unsubstantiated smear story in the media which will linger like a **** in a lift. The key phrase in the above article is this. QUOTE the GMB continues to stir up discontent at the Great Western Hospital where it does not represent the majority of our staff, and is not recognised. UNQUOTE "IS NOT RECOGNISED!" Get the point Andy - You are not wanted there. You are not part of the conversation. They have arrangements for dealing with their staff and these are nothing to do with you or the GMB! The clue is in the name, BTW, the GMB are the "General Municipal Boilermakers!" How out of date is that! Andy has a cheek lecturing a modern company like Carillon on how to operate; his organisation is still stuck in the 19th century. Anyway, enough is enough. If Andy doesn't go away and take his freak-show with him, Carillon should get a restraining order, banning him from the hospital unless he is actually ill. The Real Librarian

10:24am Tue 20 Nov 12

The Real Librarian says...

Well apparently Andy Newman has friends at the Adver.

Lets try again then and hopefully this survives.

The GMB have no role in the relationship between Carillon and their employees.

The GMB and Andy Newman are just causing trouble.Carillon have been very reasonable about this, but enough is enough. They should take court action to stop this nonsense.
Well apparently Andy Newman has friends at the Adver. Lets try again then and hopefully this survives. The GMB have no role in the relationship between Carillon and their employees. The GMB and Andy Newman are just causing trouble.Carillon have been very reasonable about this, but enough is enough. They should take court action to stop this nonsense. The Real Librarian

10:30am Tue 20 Nov 12

enuffsenuff says...

Infection Control and Personal hygiene are of the utmost importance within a health environment!!!! Maybe the GMB members need to think about that when they wear their Carillion uniforms when carrying out second jobs, and wear it on their days off .............. is this acceptable??No, I dont think so, but again only one side of a story !!!
Infection Control and Personal hygiene are of the utmost importance within a health environment!!!! Maybe the GMB members need to think about that when they wear their Carillion uniforms when carrying out second jobs, and wear it on their days off .............. is this acceptable??No, I dont think so, but again only one side of a story !!! enuffsenuff

10:36am Tue 20 Nov 12

thejournal says...

Ok Andy only believing one side of the story again, about time you crawled back under your stone and try doing something constructive rather then destructive. Maybe your members need to actually do the job instead of making up excuses not to do it.
Ok Andy only believing one side of the story again, about time you crawled back under your stone and try doing something constructive rather then destructive. Maybe your members need to actually do the job instead of making up excuses not to do it. thejournal

10:40am Tue 20 Nov 12

I 2 Could B says...

Hadn't realised Chris Watts was involved with the GMB, although shouldn't be surprised.

Even more pleased that he didn't win a councillor seat in Eastcott now.
Hadn't realised Chris Watts was involved with the GMB, although shouldn't be surprised. [p] Even more pleased that he didn't win a councillor seat in Eastcott now. I 2 Could B

10:41am Tue 20 Nov 12

baldy01 says...

once again mr newman has his facts wrong kitchen staff and housekeepers have different uniforms fact 1 but he needs to remember we get told not to visit other wards in on uniforms but majority of gmb goan members often visit friends and relatives in their working time and in trheir uniform fact 2 also do second jobs and shopping in uniform so do think this whole article is just to get mr newman press time .... riddiculous waste of ink
once again mr newman has his facts wrong kitchen staff and housekeepers have different uniforms fact 1 but he needs to remember we get told not to visit other wards in on uniforms but majority of gmb goan members often visit friends and relatives in their working time and in trheir uniform fact 2 also do second jobs and shopping in uniform so do think this whole article is just to get mr newman press time .... riddiculous waste of ink baldy01

11:38am Tue 20 Nov 12

Never mind says...

I had the misfortune of being at GWH and two cleaners moving as fast as an asthmatic ant with two heavy bags of shopping. They placed their mops in their trolleys with the cleaning head pointing out and as they walked down the corridor the mop head rubbed along the walls, to put it bluntly, they were clueless. Needless to say that chatting and lack of apparent focus on the task did not appear to be present.

I wonder if they are members of the group being represented by the GMB, who are saying they are being bullied by their employers, as opposed to being disciplined for poor performance!!

As soon as the hygiene is put back under the responsibility of the Ward Matron / Sister the better, no chance of a scapegoat being blamed!!
I had the misfortune of being at GWH and two cleaners moving as fast as an asthmatic ant with two heavy bags of shopping. They placed their mops in their trolleys with the cleaning head pointing out and as they walked down the corridor the mop head rubbed along the walls, to put it bluntly, they were clueless. Needless to say that chatting and lack of apparent focus on the task did not appear to be present. I wonder if they are members of the group being represented by the GMB, who are saying they are being bullied by their employers, as opposed to being disciplined for poor performance!! As soon as the hygiene is put back under the responsibility of the Ward Matron / Sister the better, no chance of a scapegoat being blamed!! Never mind

12:58pm Tue 20 Nov 12

jerry59 says...

After paying many visits to the hospital over the period of several years I noticed that the cleaners are like Sloths. So slow and low energy, they could hardly put one foot in front of another. It's quite sad to watch them really.
After paying many visits to the hospital over the period of several years I noticed that the cleaners are like Sloths. So slow and low energy, they could hardly put one foot in front of another. It's quite sad to watch them really. jerry59

3:37pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Davey Gravey says...

Aint most of these cleaners from the third world? If the cleaning was kept in house like it used to be instead of letting the cheapest bidders clean our hospitals then we wouldn't have a problem? MRSA wasn't there when the cleaning was done by NHS employees
Aint most of these cleaners from the third world? If the cleaning was kept in house like it used to be instead of letting the cheapest bidders clean our hospitals then we wouldn't have a problem? MRSA wasn't there when the cleaning was done by NHS employees Davey Gravey

7:17pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Peter DAY says...

It makes my blood boil to hear about infection at our wonderful GWH What is needed is to get Corilion to bring in staff that clean and not just move like snails and work at cleaning for a change.
It makes my blood boil to hear about infection at our wonderful GWH What is needed is to get Corilion to bring in staff that clean and not just move like snails and work at cleaning for a change. Peter DAY

8:29pm Tue 20 Nov 12

MrAngry says...

Peter DAY wrote:
It makes my blood boil to hear about infection at our wonderful GWH What is needed is to get Corilion to bring in staff that clean and not just move like snails and work at cleaning for a change.
I am sure that Carillion would love to get rid of the slackers, but GMB won't let them.
[quote][p][bold]Peter DAY[/bold] wrote: It makes my blood boil to hear about infection at our wonderful GWH What is needed is to get Corilion to bring in staff that clean and not just move like snails and work at cleaning for a change.[/p][/quote]I am sure that Carillion would love to get rid of the slackers, but GMB won't let them. MrAngry

9:12pm Thu 22 Nov 12

KerriM says...

Maybe the risk of infection is because they don't do the cleaning properly!! Why would they want to do any work when they know the GMB will jump up with thier bulls*** stories meaning they get to do as little as possible for not bad money!!
All this has been going on for so long, why is this "risk of infection" only being brought up now??? Have the GMB changed thier minds about what they're fighting for again???
Maybe the risk of infection is because they don't do the cleaning properly!! Why would they want to do any work when they know the GMB will jump up with thier bulls*** stories meaning they get to do as little as possible for not bad money!! All this has been going on for so long, why is this "risk of infection" only being brought up now??? Have the GMB changed thier minds about what they're fighting for again??? KerriM

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