Scouts to consider changing pledge to welcome atheists (From Swindon Advertiser)
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Scouts to consider changing pledge to welcome atheists
12:50pm Tuesday 4th December 2012 in News By Amber Hicks
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Terry Shipp, back right, with members of the 1st Stratton St Margaret scout group collecting donations for the Woodlands trust
ATHEISTS may be able to join the Scouts for the first time in 105 years.
The Scout Association are considering accepting members who have no religious beliefs, as part of a movement backed by TV adventurer Bear Grylls.
The new version of the Scout Promise is being considered for those who feel unable to pledge a duty to God.
Terry Shipp, District Explorer Scout Commissioner of Swindon North Scouts, has welcomed the idea.
"The Scout Association is a movement and the criteria is that we need to move on and move with the times so I think it’s a good idea," he said.
“It’s been on the cards for a while as the Scouts are open to all faiths and everyone and it’s always been a stumbling block for people who don’t believe in God.
“A survey is will be going out tonight with my explorer scouts to discuss the idea”
The current Scout Promise reads: "On my honour, I promise that I will do my best to do my duty to God and to the Queen, to help other people and to keep the Scout Law."
Alternative pledges already exist for other faith groups including Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists, which allows them to use the word ‘my Dharma’ and ‘Allah’ instead of God.
But this is the first time atheists will have the opportunity to become a scout.
Membership of the Scouts has risen during the past seven years from 444,936 in 2005 to 525,364 this year, figures released by the association show.
The proposed changes are designed to increase diversity in the movement and enable more young people and adults to join.
Comments(7)
house on the hill
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1:39pm Tue 4 Dec 12
And why should anyone be made to make that pledge anyway, what has religion got to do with being a scout?
Davey Gravey
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1:57pm Tue 4 Dec 12
scoutleader
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2:08pm Tue 4 Dec 12
We're not descriminating. When you join the scouts you make promise. It's a contract, just like you would have to do if you joined any organisation, club etc.
The fundamentals of scouting will not change that much.
We are guided by values - integrity, respect, care, belief and cooperation.
Scouting takes place when young people, in partnership with adults, work together based on the values of Scouting and:
•enjoy what they are doing and have fun;
•take part in activities indoors and outdoors;
•learn by doing;
•share in spiritual reflection;
•take responsibility and make choices;
•undertake new and challenging activities; and
•make and live by their Promise.
Since its inception Scouting has continually adapted to remain relevant to society, whilst staying rooted to the underlying principles on which it was established more than one hundred years ago.
We're a movement, and we're moving with the times.
The Patrician
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4:30pm Tue 4 Dec 12
house on the hill
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8:09pm Tue 4 Dec 12
We are guided by values - integrity, respect, care, belief and cooperation. ""
Why is it the religious types think you have to be religous to show these traits. I some some athiests who are a hell of a lot kinder and show more respect and are far more trustworthy that a lot so called religious people who have shown time and again they clearly cant be trusted.
Stop being so pompous and let people make their own minds up about religion instead of forcing them or else they cant join. Strange that religion is the second biggest killer the world has ever known after maleria.
RichardR1
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8:46am Fri 7 Dec 12
What next the Freemasons changing their entry cruteria, which includes God and Monarch.
Inda UK says...
1:34pm Tue 4 Dec 12
Sure, you had to repeat some of the brainwashing lies to get membership, but that was a small price to pay for all the exciting things they offered. We've all told lies to gain something of value, such as lying to children under six years old.
The things atheists have to put up with. Sigh.