Solar farm to be biggest yet (From Swindon Advertiser)
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Solar farm to be biggest yet
8:00pm Wednesday 16th January 2013 in News By Matthew Edwards
Adam Twine of Westmill Solar Farm
PLANS to build the largest solar farm in the country have been announced for Wroughton.
Swindon Commercial Services Ltd, owned by Swindon Council, has partnered up with the Science Museum, which owns a former airfield just outside of Wroughton, to create a 40MW solar farm.
The proposed farm will comprise 160,000 solar panels and cover 200 acres of a former RAF site, now owned by The Science Museum at Wroughton.
Developers, SCS, said it could create enough energy to power about 12,000 homes and plans will go on show at Ellendune Community Centre from Saturday, January 26.
The project will cost around £50m, but the backer has not yet been chosen.
James Owen, the project's manager, said that the project is in pre-planning stage and undergoing its first consultation with the public.
If successful, it will move to a planning application in April, work would start in September, and the park would be completed by Christmas.
The Science Museum took over the airfield in the 1970s and uses it to store exhibits that are not currently on display.
The flat land is classed as light industrial and covered in concrete and grass making it easy to install.
Matt Moore, a spokesperson for the Science Museum, said: “As most people in Swindon know we have a large RAF airfield, which we use the main buildings of, the rest is flat land which is unused.
“We are looking at ways we can maximise the use of the site.
“This idea will have a positive impact on the community and that is the point of the consultation to get other peoples views on it.
“The plans we have had previously are based around large public access, or using public funding to carry them out where as this has no adverse impact and will be no expense to the museum.
“This is a robust business plan and we are looking forward to working with SCS.”
SCS has so far only installed much smaller solar ventures on behalf of the council for example on the rooftops of colleges, leisure centres and accommodation.
In such cases, the properties, being owned by the council, the council receives the income from the panels' operation.
This is not only a much bigger project but a different business model.
The company is acting as a developer, and will also pitch to be a subcontractor and provide maintenance services to the Science Museum's project.
James Owen, of SCS, said: “We are right at the early stages of the project and will be holding the public consultation.
“We reckon that will take four to six weeks. It is unlikely we will submit plans before April.
“The more people that can come along to the consultation and give us their views the better for us. We hope to get a good turn-out.
“I hope people do embrace the fact that we're trying to generate a significant amount of renewable energy on land that is pretty unproductive.”
Comments(48)
klempner69
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6:37am Thu 17 Jan 13
house on the hill
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8:04am Thu 17 Jan 13
Tim Newroman
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8:28am Thu 17 Jan 13
klempner69 wrote:Completely agree.
£50 Million?They wont even recover the cost.We will be dead and gone before they do.
Still, all those people who won't be able to afford their next gas and electricity bills - and who wonder why the price is rising even further in 2013 - know precisely why that's the case... it's partly to fund nonsense such as this, and you can thank the LibDems for that.
Hmmmf
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9:15am Thu 17 Jan 13
Matt Moore, of Vested Interest said:
This idea will have a positive impact on the community
Yes, I'm positive it will have an impact on us all too, precisely as Tim Newroman described.
Empty Car Park
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10:01am Thu 17 Jan 13
RichardR1
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10:05am Thu 17 Jan 13
PaulD
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11:20am Thu 17 Jan 13
klempner69 wrote:perhaps they are thinking of the future. And besides, how do you know how long it will take them to recoup the cost? Why not show your workings?
£50 Million?They wont even recover the cost.We will be dead and gone before they do.
This project will be put out to tender to private investors. If they decide (after lots of actual calculations) that it is not viable, they will not invest. Either way, the costs are private.
Empty Car Park
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12:35pm Thu 17 Jan 13
RichardR1 wrote:Do the Libdems rule SCS ?
Empty Head, I would have thought that would be obvious even to you. The Lib-Dems are 100% in favour of everything EU, including supporting all renewables irrespective of cost.
Empty Car Park
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12:36pm Thu 17 Jan 13
RichardR1 wrote:Do the Libdems rule SCS ?
Empty Head, I would have thought that would be obvious even to you. The Lib-Dems are 100% in favour of everything EU, including supporting all renewables irrespective of cost.
Empty Car Park
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12:42pm Thu 17 Jan 13
Using their logic from the Waitrose thread, that makes them the same person
Oh well.
Tim Newroman
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1:35pm Thu 17 Jan 13
Empty Car Park wrote:On that thread you said, under one of your logins 'Did you miss the part where I said...' which referred to comments you'd made using one of your other logins.
Nice of RichardR1 to reply on behalf of Neuro Man?
Using their logic from the Waitrose thread, that makes them the same person
Oh well.
A silly error on your part, but one that neatly proved you were using two different logins on that thread, something you often do so that you can appear to have two different people 'agreeing' when, in fact, it's just you posting under two logins.
As for your other childish question, do you ever actually think about anything you post?
house on the hill
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1:49pm Thu 17 Jan 13
Empty Car Park
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3:36pm Thu 17 Jan 13
On that thread you said, under one of your logins 'Did you miss the part where I said...' which referred to comments you'd made using one of your other logins.
Or it could have been somebody just quoting a question that I had asked and you chose to sidestep so that you could carry on pretending to be better than everyone else
Who knows?
Who cares?
There's more to life....
Tim Newroman
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4:14pm Thu 17 Jan 13
Empty Car Park wrote:'Who knows?'... well, everyone who has read that thread and has seen, very clearly, the mistake you made.
On that thread you said, under one of your logins 'Did you miss the part where I said...' which referred to comments you'd made using one of your other logins.
Or it could have been somebody just quoting a question that I had asked and you chose to sidestep so that you could carry on pretending to be better than everyone else
Who knows?
Who cares?
There's more to life....
You also continually register logins that you perceive, presumably, as being 'funny' versions of other existing logins - so it's not hard to spot your many accounts.
There is indeed much more to life, so I don't know why you continue to get so worked up about things, or why you continue your strange stalking of the ex-Carpenters Arms landlord.
klempner69
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6:57pm Thu 17 Jan 13
Empty Car Park
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8:29pm Thu 17 Jan 13
On your own "principles"
Why have you changed your login fro "I 2 Could B" which you presumably perceived as a "funny" version of another users login
You should practice what you preach
Particularly as you preach more than most
Empty Car Park
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8:33pm Thu 17 Jan 13
Perhaps Robfm will try to answer on your behalf again if you're not capable.
Tim Newroman
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9:34pm Thu 17 Jan 13
Empty Car Park wrote:
Still waiting for an explanation as to why the Libdems are to blame.
As you seem incapable of understanding things on a larger scale than what happens at Coate Water or SBC, it's rather pointless telling you.
Talking of explanations, any update on what your phrase 'Plastic Westminster' is supposed to mean?
And there you go with that weird obsession with Robfm again. He REALLY did get to you, didn't he?
semitonic
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9:41pm Thu 17 Jan 13
house on the hill wrote:Fracking.
So does anyone actually have any suggestions as to what we should be doing to prepare fr when the gas and oil runs out. Lots of negatives but not many alternatives.
It's the future of our domestic needs (apparently)
Empty Car Park
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11:23pm Thu 17 Jan 13
Tim Newroman wrote:Why do we need to "Thank the Libdems for that" ?
klempner69 wrote:Completely agree.
£50 Million?They wont even recover the cost.We will be dead and gone before they do.
Still, all those people who won't be able to afford their next gas and electricity bills - and who wonder why the price is rising even further in 2013 - know precisely why that's the case... it's partly to fund nonsense such as this, and you can thank the LibDems for that.
RichardR1
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7:40am Fri 18 Jan 13
Empty Head, the Lib-Dems insisted as part of the Coalition deal that the renewable target was substantially raised, even higher than what was called for by the EU. So I think the thanking them was irony, but I could be mistaken.
I am also not Tim. you really are quite obsessed with others whilst being deceitful yourself.
Tim Newroman
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7:58am Fri 18 Jan 13
Empty Car Park wrote:Do you really not know ANYTHING about national politics?
Tim Newroman wrote:Why do we need to "Thank the Libdems for that" ?
klempner69 wrote:Completely agree.
£50 Million?They wont even recover the cost.We will be dead and gone before they do.
Still, all those people who won't be able to afford their next gas and electricity bills - and who wonder why the price is rising even further in 2013 - know precisely why that's the case... it's partly to fund nonsense such as this, and you can thank the LibDems for that.
I mean, it's clear you know absolutely nothing about local politics, but surely even you watch the news now and again?
Still, let me try and explain it for you in very basic terms which you might then have a hope of grasping, at least in part:
The government has published details of its long-awaited Energy Bill. It will allow energy firms to charge households an extra £7.6bn until 2020, which will go towards the development of low-carbon electricity generation.
The bill has been a battleground between Chancellor George Osborne, who favours gas-powered generation, and the Liberal Democrats, who want clean energy.
Ed Davey (LibDem), Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change,
was responsible for the government's much-trailed 2012 Energy Bill, which allows energy firms to increase the "green" levy from £3bn to £7.6bn a year by 2020, thereby increasing household bills by around £100.
If you cannot understand how that filters down to a local level, I'd suggest we may as well give up on your education.
Now, what is 'Plastic Westminster' supposed to mean?
Empty Car Park
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11:46am Fri 18 Jan 13
I'll answer you Libdem comment for you as my education has taught me the difference between local issues and global ones.
As "I 2 Could B" (the only person who cares but doesn't know what a plastic is) you are pro Tory and try to make
every issue into a means if defending your clan.
You make out that anyone who doesn't support your wife's political party must be a lefty
As you cannot apportion blame to Labour this time you are having a pop at the Libdems.
We don't all **** to be elected And you're bitter that you failed to be.
Tim Newroman
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3:35pm Fri 18 Jan 13
Empty Car Park wrote:OK, for the very last time, so that even you can understand (well, we live in hope, anyway):
EVERYBODY knows what "plastic" means when refering to anything.
I'll answer you Libdem comment for you as my education has taught me the difference between local issues and global ones.
As "I 2 Could B" (the only person who cares but doesn't know what a plastic is) you are pro Tory and try to make
every issue into a means if defending your clan.
You make out that anyone who doesn't support your wife's political party must be a lefty
As you cannot apportion blame to Labour this time you are having a pop at the Libdems.
We don't all **** to be elected And you're bitter that you failed to be.
I am NOT a member of the Tory party, I am NOT married to a person who is a member of any political party and I have NEVER stood for election and have no plans to EVER stand for election.
That you continue to think I am somebody I'm not just serves to make you look rather dim.
Sam must be very proud.
If 'everybody' knows what your 'Plastic Westminster' comment meant, why did at least two people ask you to clarify what you meant?
Which, by the way, you still haven't.
itsamess3
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3:50pm Fri 18 Jan 13
British made with the very latest technology.
Empty Car Park
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4:29pm Fri 18 Jan 13
If 'everybody' knows what your 'Plastic Westminster' comment meant, why did at least two people ask you to clarify what you meant?
Simple
They didn't. It was just you
As someone has already pointed out, this is the pinnacle of your political career.
Being narky to people on a comments thread.
Lol
Poor Emma must be humiliated.
Have you trolled "my" website lately
-x-
itsamess3
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4:33pm Fri 18 Jan 13
Empty Car Park
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4:36pm Fri 18 Jan 13
Well--let us hope SCS as the developer have the finance and the sense to install the latest breed of solar panels.
British made with the very latest technology.
As they're apoarently £92 million in the red, I doubt they have tje finances.
It's also a concern that they don't know when to cut losses (wifi) and don't take advice from the correct people.
itsamess3
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4:56pm Fri 18 Jan 13
Empty Car Park wrote:Biting off more than they can chew it seems--could be costly.
Well--let us hope SCS as the developer have the finance and the sense to install the latest breed of solar panels.
British made with the very latest technology.
As they're apoarently £92 million in the red, I doubt they have tje finances.
It's also a concern that they don't know when to cut losses (wifi) and don't take advice from the correct people.
house on the hill
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2:51am Sat 19 Jan 13
9:41pm Thu 17 Jan 13
house on the hill wrote:
So does anyone actually have any suggestions as to what we should be doing to prepare fr when the gas and oil runs out. Lots of negatives but not many alternatives.
Fracking.
It's the future of our domestic needs (apparently)”""
Doesnt that make you go blind, lol????
Tim Newroman
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6:31am Sat 19 Jan 13
Empty Car Park wrote:Dear oh dear. You are literally hopeless.
If 'everybody' knows what your 'Plastic Westminster' comment meant, why did at least two people ask you to clarify what you meant?
Simple
They didn't. It was just you
As someone has already pointed out, this is the pinnacle of your political career.
Being narky to people on a comments thread.
Lol
Poor Emma must be humiliated.
Have you trolled "my" website lately
-x-
Empty Car Park
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8:47am Sat 19 Jan 13
LOL
itsamess3
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11:30am Sat 19 Jan 13
house on the hill wrote:Throughout the world scientists and common folk have found solutions to energy needs from wind-sun and the atmosphere.
So does anyone actually have any suggestions as to what we should be doing to prepare fr when the gas and oil runs out. Lots of negatives but not many alternatives.
Perhaps you saw the experiment where a simple magnifying glass pointed at a piece of paper that when attracting the suns rays the paper quickly caught fire.
You have probably seen childs windmills activated by the smallest of breezes.
You have likely heard of the Hydrogen Fuel Cell engines which incidentally have been around since the 1800s-they simply use Hydrogen extracted from the atmoshere and compressed and passed over an electrode whilst oxygen from air passes over another electrode to create propulsion power.
That is a simple description
The bonus being the exhaust as a bye-product is H2O-Water.
Many car manufacturers are experimenting with underbody wind fed rotors independent of the engines to charge batteries for electrical power.
That is just a few of the many thousands of projects to replace fossil fuels.
RichardR1
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11:38am Sat 19 Jan 13
This has been discussed before. Having checked a comparison of product price of the top 5 rated producers of which Sharp is one, their prices are middle range.
So this begs the question, if as you claim they are the most advanced and most efficient why are they very rarely used on British projects, and it can't be the price because Sanyo, the most widely used are the most expensive, watt for watt.
Tim Newroman
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12:42pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Empty Car Park wrote:Oh dear.
What a pointless narky comment.
LOL
itsamess3
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1:01pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Thinking or believing are not facts.
These as stated are British design and manufacture and incorporate multiple technologies. A site was selected where a new housing estate was to be built and supplied with heat and power to these homes with full cooperation with the NG. Output has exceeded by 25% compared to the nearest worldwide supplier.
So this begs the question, if as you claim they are the most advanced and most efficient why are they very rarely used on British projects, and it can't be the price because Sanyo, the most widely used are the most expensive, watt for watt.”
The full trial results are to be made public at the end of this month.
Your lack of knowledge shows as we do have in this country some very good scientists and designers and experts with the back up of green groups who support even the smallest projects in the energy field.
We deal with persons such as yourself every day of the year who believe they know everything.
RichardR1
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2:50pm Sat 19 Jan 13
That has been previously mentioned on another solar article and not by you, so you are once again repeating what others say.
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-wales-north
-east-wales-11734119
RichardR1
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2:54pm Sat 19 Jan 13
itsamess3
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7:30pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Do keep trying bobby as your 2 posts amount to no more than pure jibberish.
Perhaps you are not aware of the growing technology of gaining energy from moonlight-originally used on the Yorkshire Dales-Your research capabilities are non existant. Knowledge of the subject is essential and you lack that knowledge.
RichardR1
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8:26pm Sat 19 Jan 13
I note of course because you have been found wanting you allude to you not meaning Sharp.
Empty Car Park
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11:00pm Sat 19 Jan 13
"post the link"
or perhaps
"set up a flickr site"
Tim Newroman
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8:01am Sun 20 Jan 13
Empty Car Park wrote:Another classic, 'I Too's been on the sauce' post. 11pm, Saturday. Like clockwork.
Should have said
"post the link"
or perhaps
"set up a flickr site"
itsamess3
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10:05am Sun 20 Jan 13
British--throughout-
-so not sharp.
RichardR1
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12:02pm Sun 20 Jan 13
So name this all British design/manufacturing company because clearly they are lacking any marketing skills as there is simply no reference to them on any site loosely assorted with the renewables industry.
Perhaps that's why they don't sell a lot.
itsamess3
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3:07pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Nope-Scotish Architect and English Scientist.
So name this all British design/manufacturing company because clearly they are lacking any marketing skills as there is simply no reference to them on any site loosely assorted with the renewables industry.
"there is simply no reference to them on any site loosely assorted" - bobby booby.
As stated the report is to be published together with the companies plans.
Perhaps that's why they don't sell a lot.”
They have not sold any as this was a proving trial and gained an income for selling the energy.
Outline planning permision is in place to expand the site.
RichardR1
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8:51am Tue 22 Jan 13
So once again it is a company/invention only you know about. I can understand why many call you a fantasist.
itsamess3
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10:13am Tue 22 Jan 13
The company can make more money by selling licences to manufacture which allows them to research and perfect other energy saving devices which is what they do--tut tut bobby you really are not bright.
RichardR1 says...
6:22am Thu 17 Jan 13