‘Sorry for outburst against Croft School campaigner,’ says Swindon council leader (From Swindon Advertiser)
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‘Sorry for outburst against Croft School campaigner,’ says Swindon council leader
9:00am Saturday 19th January 2013 in News By David Wiles
Rod Bluh
SWINDON Council’s leader, Rod Bluh, has apologised to Croft School campaigner, Kareen Boyd after “losing it” and branding her a NIMBY during Thursday’s full council meeting.
Coun Bluh (Con, Old Town) said he told Mrs Boyd that she only cared about what she could see out of her window, and not about children’s education, after she shouted out a comment on the controversial school, from the public gallery of the Civic Offices, in Euclid Street.
He claims Mrs Boyd and other residents in the gallery had already been asked several times to keep quiet and his response provoked her to make further comments, which resulted in her being asked to leave by mayor Coun Mick Bray.
Coun Bray said she refused, so he threatened to call security unless she went voluntarily.
He adjourned the meeting for 15 minutes to give her the opportunity to leave, which she eventually did.
Member of the public do not have the right to speak at full council except when asking questions during public question time.
The incident took place at about 10pm during a debate on a motion, later withdrawn, about the council’s level of borrowing a decade ago, which provoked Coun Bluh to mention the funding of Croft School.
Speaking after the meeting, Coun Bluh said: “When I said we had to borrow the money to built Croft, she said: ‘Waste of money in the wrong place.’ “What I said was ‘Unfortunately Mrs Boyd only cares about what she sees out of her window rather than the children that need educating.’ “In other words, I called her a NIMBY, which means ‘Not In My Back Yard’.”
Coun Bluh said he was subsequently cross with himself for losing his cool, retracted his comment, apologised to the council and intended to apologise to Mrs Boyd, whom he said needed to get elected if she wanted to speak at meetings.
“I lost it, I’m sorry, I just lost it,” said Coun Bluh, who has been the council leader for eight and a half years.
“I was so angry with what she said I just lost it and I snapped.
“I cannot believe I did that, because in eight and a half years I have never done that, I have always managed to bite my lip, but for whatever reason last night it didn’t work.”
Mrs Boyd said: “I was shocked I was treated in that way. I have received an email from Coun Bluh and I have contacted the mayor to ask for clarification of what happened after I was asked to leave.
“I’m considering the mayor’s response and I will get back to him.”
Commenting on her decision to react to Coun Bluh’s NIMBY claim, she said: “Coun Bluh named me and made personal allegations against me. I have a right of reply.”
Coun Bray said: “The point is, I warned people in the public gallery before that there was too much noise coming from the public gallery and if this was to continue I would clear the public gallery.
“I also I asked her twice to sit down and she didn’t, she continued, so I asked her to leave and she refused and I said if she didn’t leave voluntarily I would call security.”
Comments(92)
Empty Car Park
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9:38am Sat 19 Jan 13
It would put Prime Ministers' question time to shame.
Some of the more egotistical councillors might even welcome it as they already act as if they're in some kind of "plastic Westminster"
Always Grumpy
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10:12am Sat 19 Jan 13
She seems to like dishing it out, but isn't very good at taking it.
For once in his life Bluh said the right thing and shouldn't be apologising to her or anyone else.
There's a lot he should be apologising for though.
Empty Car Park
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10:21am Sat 19 Jan 13
we had to borrow the money to build Croft
Why?
Did children from Croft not go to school before?
Do developers have a "free for all" courtesy of SBC without the need to consider school buildings?
Wellfire
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10:34am Sat 19 Jan 13
RichardR1
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10:51am Sat 19 Jan 13
But I guess voters get what they deserve.
Ian13
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11:02am Sat 19 Jan 13
Empty Car Park wrote:No, this is the children's first school.
we had to borrow the money to build CroftWhy? Did children from Croft not go to school before? Do developers have a "free for all" courtesy of SBC without the need to consider school buildings?
LocalBob80
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11:09am Sat 19 Jan 13
But I guess voters get what they deserve.
Hardly
dglaholm
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11:36am Sat 19 Jan 13
Peter Mallinson
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12:01pm Sat 19 Jan 13
She has complained about The Croft School from the beginning as is her right to do so, but it is now becoming an obsession.
Please, please,please give it a rest.
The school is built and functioning, with children attending.
It is futile to continue carping on, even with the excuse that it is the process that should be looked at !!
That is being done anyway.
Tim Newroman
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12:40pm Sat 19 Jan 13
It seems Ms Boyd has reached a new low if she's reduced herself to shouting her opinions in the council chambers and being ejected by security at the request of the mayor.
What strikes me as most bizarre is that, surely, the people who live near the school must be more aware than anyone that it's ALREADY BEEN BUILT. So why they seem to still be persuing a campaign against it being there is mystifying.
twasadawf
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1:03pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Empty Car Park
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1:41pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Just what is Mrs Boyd's end game?
Perhaps trying to get future schools built in the right area
Perhaps trying to prevent further waste of our taxes
Perhaps pointing out that arrogant councillors don't like to listen
RichardR1
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2:35pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Isn't Mr Mallinson the former Tory councillor who threw his dummy out of his pram when questioned on a similar decision over utilities for the Front Garden. I guess he learnt that from his leader
sn5
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2:44pm Sat 19 Jan 13
now she's got thrown out of the chamber by Mick Bray (who I do know) - she must have really been out of order to have been thrown out by Mick, who is one of the most level headed & quiet people.
Oldtownmum
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3:52pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Peter Mallinson
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4:07pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Please try to stay on subject and stop trying to be too clever. You never could when I knew you better.
Davey Gravey
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4:24pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Peter Mallinson wrote:He is the site troll, Robert feal Martinez. As for blabbermouth Boyd, Bligh is right. She is a nimby.
RichardR1, what utilities on the Front Garden are you talking about.
Please try to stay on subject and stop trying to be too clever. You never could when I knew you better.
Empty Car Park
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4:48pm Sat 19 Jan 13
So is any other respectable person when nonsense happens in their neighbourhood.
Not sure why the wannabe politicians think that being a nimby is a personal fault to be despised
They should be more concerned with
Is the school built in the correct manner in the best possible location?
Did the school cost tax payers an unnecessary amount of money?
Should the site and build costs have been governed by the developers creating urban sprawl all around Swindon?
Name calling and arrogance will do nothing to improve Swindon or its' dire image
Peter Mallinson
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4:48pm Sat 19 Jan 13
"Perhaps trying to get future schools built in the right area
Perhaps trying to prevent further waste of our taxes
Perhaps pointing out that arrogant councillors don't like to listen”
On he first point, the school is in the right area as advised by senior officers of the council during and before the planning process.
On the second point, how can building a school in an area where it is required be classed as wasting taxes.
On the third point, there is some truth in what is said. No councillor likes to listen to repetitive carping from NIMBYS.
LordAshOfTheBrake
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5:06pm Sat 19 Jan 13
The school was not in the area with the most pressing demand for places.
The most pressing demand was in North Swindon as has been shown in school place projections. The fact that a saving of £180k due to staff costs is yet more evidence that less people were employed than expected; because the intake was lower.
School places in North Swindon have been oversubscribed for over 2 years, with schools having to take extra pupils in portacabins.
These are facts, so you rebuff to points one and two are fundamentally invalid!
That said it would appear to be time for Mrs Boyd to let go specifically over Croft School and if she wishes to continue campaigning on wider issues that should be welcomed.
Empty Car Park
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5:19pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Good grief Mr Mallinson.
Swindon is subject to lots of expansion and urban sprawl.
Those areas will sooner or later require schools.
The self approving "clever" folk at the council must have found a way to incorporate that into the development agreements
Surely they are not just completely idiotic, arrogant cretins
Yours sincerely
Nimby Andproud
Empty Car Park
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5:23pm Sat 19 Jan 13
On the second point, how can building a school in an area where it is required be classed as wasting taxes.
How can money be wasted building a school?
Good grief Mr Mallinson.
Swindon is subject to lots of expansion and urban sprawl.
Those areas will sooner or later require schools.
The self approving "clever" folk at the council must have found a way to incorporate that into the development agreements
Surely they are not just completely idiotic, arrogant cretins
Yours sincerely
Nimby Andproud
MrAngry
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5:23pm Sat 19 Jan 13
RichardR1 wrote:Are you refering to Peter Greenhalgh who made a complete a*se of himself on BBC's Inside Out.
Heavens I agree totally with Empty's last post, so I guess he will change his stance now.
Isn't Mr Mallinson the former Tory councillor who threw his dummy out of his pram when questioned on a similar decision over utilities for the Front Garden. I guess he learnt that from his leader
Oliver_Donachie
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5:34pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Kareen Boyd has a right to voice her opinion during the public question period of the council session.
Kareen Boyd does not have the right to heckle at other times during the council session.
The Mayor removed her after numerous requests to stop as he is required to do.
Seems fairly straight forward when the facts are presented, or are those defending her actions saying that people should be allowed to scream and shout as they like during meetings?
Davey Gravey
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5:57pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Localboy86
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6:37pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Empty Car Park
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7:01pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Being married/partner to a Tory cabinet member.
Grimwald
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7:48pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Oliver_Donachie
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8:15pm Sat 19 Jan 13
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-england-wil
tshire-16593550
I think any forum operated by a person suspended by the national labour party (the BBC words) is best ignored by normal people in mainstream politics, and lets not get started about sweary bob...(you can borrow my copy)
RichardR1
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8:20pm Sat 19 Jan 13
However my remarks with regard to the serial wasters of money in the administration needs to be monitored.
I note another absent barmans stalker comments again. Really scary stuff.
Davey Gravey
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8:38pm Sat 19 Jan 13
RichardR1 wrote:So you got your facts wrong and still wont admit your identity. Good one Bobby baby. Nothing scary nor am I a stalker. You're Bob feal Martinez though. Observing posts a stalker doesn't make.
Mr Mallison tomy knowledge we have never met, and it seems I got the wrong Peter for which I apologise.
However my remarks with regard to the serial wasters of money in the administration needs to be monitored.
I note another absent barmans stalker comments again. Really scary stuff.
http://Www.Swindon.Org.UK
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9:05pm Sat 19 Jan 13
With out even involving the council.
Just Bluh and 2 others gave away err 'lent' £400,000 and on top off that paid £70,000 to same guy to learn how to be
"Remote admistration"???
The public should be allowed to question in council meetings but this council does all it can to make that hard.
The public should be able to deliver question on topics for discussion in writing.
Limit it to less than say 256 words or 500 char.s and then read it out before each point.
Limit it to max 4 public statements and only to statements where that person is attending.
Because the public do not feel they can get to comment at the moment, you get people heckling..
Empty Car Park
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9:31pm Sat 19 Jan 13
I think Grimwald that most if us prefer our news and discussion from sources that are not tainted.
Yes, that's what I like about www.talswindon.org
Proper open discussion
Very informative, without all the sniping that certain people demonstrate on here
Care to comment on this topic Olive
http://www.talkswind
on.org/index.php/top
ic,7738.msg63859.htm
l#msg63859
Oliver_Donachie
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10:59pm Sat 19 Jan 13
Its amazing that the conversation is so "open" that no mainstream political party will go near it or its operator. Funny really when you consider its handful of members constantly demand "engagement" , perhaps as the years of pointlessness in which they have achieved precisely 0 changes to any political process anywhere you think they would change to a different tactic. Like normal conversation.
Anyway...despite typical TS tactics to divert attention from the actual issue I will repeat my question that is actually related to the story:
"Are those defending her actions saying that people should be allowed to scream and shout as they like during public meetings?"
Dick-Turpin
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11:22pm Sat 19 Jan 13
LordAshOfTheBrake wrote:I think the reason Cllr Bluh now represents the Old Town area is because he jumped ship from the Dorcan Ward when the ward boundaries changed to include Park South - perhaps worried that he wouldn't get elected back in? I don't think it was for any reason other than to preserve his elected Cllr status, and that was only marginally if you look at the results.
However when she said the wrong place she was absolutely correct as is shown by the school places take up compared to the lack of places in North Swindon.
I can't help but think there is some connection between the fact that Bluh represents the old town area and the timing of the announcements/buildi
ng the school and the political landscape going into elections!
There is still no firm plans for increasing school places in North Swindon; both primary and secondary..
Empty Car Park
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12:37am Sun 20 Jan 13
semitonic
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6:38am Sun 20 Jan 13
RichardR1 wrote:You are the resident troll on here Robbo, no amount of lying and identity changing on your part will ever disguise your blundering stupidity.
Mr Mallison tomy knowledge we have never met, and it seems I got the wrong Peter for which I apologise.
However my remarks with regard to the serial wasters of money in the administration needs to be monitored.
I note another absent barmans stalker comments again. Really scary stuff.
It's a shame the adver can't seem to recognise that you are the troublemaker they have banned on multiple occasions from these pages.
RichardR1
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9:06am Sun 20 Jan 13
I'm Important
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10:53am Sun 20 Jan 13
RichardR1 wrote:I find it hilarious that a person refers to himself as "Absent"
I do find it mildly amusing that a person who has more character changes than James Bond comments about the absent barman. A bit hypocritical Semitronic don't you think.
Do try to stay on topic.
I know it's difficult when you are "Vacant" :):):):)
Davey Gravey
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11:25am Sun 20 Jan 13
Empty Car Park
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11:33am Sun 20 Jan 13
Just using the opportunity to post under his real name in order to get some browny points.
The report says nothing about the run up to this event.
Apparently there was much discussion about wasted money.
Wifi, water features, etc
As I understand it there was to be a motion to prevent financial information being revealed
There was talk of government funding for a much greater needed school in North Swindon but SBC chose to bed a developer for a "concept school" at Croft
I suspect Croft was just the tip of the iceberg of an infuriating evening.
Mr Bluh has presumably given thought that the apology WAS necessary
Is Oliver suggesting his idol has made a mistake
Best to talk to any non-councillors/non politicos who attended
semitonic
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11:57am Sun 20 Jan 13
Davey Gravey wrote:Incredible isn't it, Robbo spent literally years boasting about himself and ensuring everybody knew who he was. Constant attention-seeking, courting controversy at every turn and always ending up playing the victim.
An absolute laughing stock along with arch enemy itsamess.that pair of clowns deserve each other.
Suddenly he's realised what a self-seeking bungling idiot he's made himself look and out of sheer embarrassment he makes up some old pony about leaving Swindon and changes his identity on here. Such a clever little twist though, calling himself 'Richard' to throw anyone off the scent (haha, as if).
Poor Robbo, he's failed again and made himself look even more stupid, if that were possible.
RichardR1
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11:58am Sun 20 Jan 13
As for the topic perhaps DG should heed your advice.
Tim Newroman
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12:06pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Empty Car Park wrote:
Apparently there was much discussion about wasted money.
Wifi, water features, etc
As I understand it there was to be a motion to prevent financial information being revealed
So, you weren't there then?
Needless to say, you picked up your 'understanding' of events from the entirely biased local Labour forum website. A forum which the anti-Croft campaigners frequent and whose members generally supported due them desperately trying to secure a few votes for the Labour wannabe councillors that also frequent the site.
Although, of course, you're not a Labour man. At all. Ever. No, seriously, you're really not.
Peter Mallinson
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12:10pm Sun 20 Jan 13
No offence taken.
I think Rod was correct in what he said, even he should be allowed to express himself as people do in this forum.
His apology should be seen for what it is, the action of a decent person trying to calm down a situation.
abbotboy
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12:25pm Sun 20 Jan 13
the blind leading the blind..
abbotboy
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12:34pm Sun 20 Jan 13
The Real Librarian
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12:35pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Empty Car Park wrote:Perhaps it gives a purpose to her otherwise empty life, and she enjoys the attention.
Just what is Mrs Boyd's end game?
Perhaps trying to get future schools built in the right area
Perhaps trying to prevent further waste of our taxes
Perhaps pointing out that arrogant councillors don't like to listen
Stupid woman..
abbotboy
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12:40pm Sun 20 Jan 13
abbotboy
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12:42pm Sun 20 Jan 13
MrAngry
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12:48pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Rather than act the victim, Karen Boyd should also apologise for her behaviour which led to her being expelled from the public gallery.
As a wannabe councillor Mrs Boyd should respect the rules of the chamber and the authority of the chair.
abbotboy
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12:58pm Sun 20 Jan 13
build - £7,421,901
drainage - 1.65 million
groundworks - £1.545,000
adverts for school - £10,000
temporary school last seen onits way to Hull for painting -£1 million.
total cost approx 11,626,901 million pounds, now ask Mr Bluh to confirm and I bet £5 he denies costs...
Empty Car Park
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1:04pm Sun 20 Jan 13
I was talking to Oliver....
Oh yes I see
Although, of course, you're not a Labour man. At all. Ever. No, seriously, you're really not.
Correct
Anyone studying this topic from the "library" of information that is Talk Swindon will quickly realise that from my comments on there.
Job done.
fatman
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1:46pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Tim Newroman
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2:04pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Empty Car Park wrote:
I was talking to Oliver....
Good for you, and I'm sure Oliver will reply to you if he sees fit.
My point was to take your comments and show that you were clearly not at the meeting and are basing your entire take on the situation on biased comments from a biased pro-Labour forum.
This comes as absolutely no surprise as you have a pathological hatred of anything the local council does. It makes no difference to you what they do, you oppose and snipe about it regardless.
And then claim you're not a Labour supporter, despite very clearly wishing Labour to take control of the council. Which you will no deny, just like you deny you're pro-Labour.
This is why nobody takes your comments seriously - no matter which of your numerous logins you post them under (and I note you've recently gone and registered yet ANOTHER fake login!)
Empty Car Park
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2:47pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Good for you, and I'm sure Oliver will reply to you if he sees fit.
Maybe he has
My point was to take your comments and show that you were clearly not at the meeting
Well thanks for that.
I already knew that I wasn't at the meeting but thanks for the research.
Not sure where you think I said otherwise
you have a pathological hatred of anything the local council does
No.
Mostly I just think they're incompetent an incapable of listening.
A huge number of Swindonians, certainly football fans, would have seen the obvious error of the deal with Rikki
No amount of brown nosing will correct that huge whopper
And then claim you're not a Labour supporter, despite very clearly wishing Labour to take control of the council.
That's the silly pathological nonsense that gives your identity away every time
I don't care who takes over the council so long as there is a change of the current dictatorship
which you will now deny
No
Denying who I am is the realm of yourself and barman buddy.
This is why nobody takes your comments seriously ........
Thankyou for speaking on behalf of ....... nobody
Job done
I just haven't admitted anything :-)
abbotboy
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3:12pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Oliver can rant all he likes about TS etc and the rest also , but are you happy with £63,000 worth of stones lying in the fields at wroughton, are you happy with the money wasted on the wifi fisaco, are you happy with the town centre paving slabs at around 5 million, railway station, new car park 15 million, and yet you ask for a road to be resurfaced or even gritted, and youll get the same old routine your not on the bus route... oliver rants because his partner and he for that matter dont like the trruth to be told..
abbotboy
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3:15pm Sun 20 Jan 13
house on the hill
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4:04pm Sun 20 Jan 13
3:12pm Sun 20 Jan 13
What the needs of this town are for a 'party' to take over, and from what has gone on in the past this should be a party of independants and then run the town for the sake of the town and not for the honour of being council leader.. """""
Couldnt agree more, sadly politics just messes everything up. Decisions should be made for the benefit of those who pay their council tax with total openess and responsibility for their actions too instead of hiding behind party politics. All the main parties are just as useless as the others in the end, they have all made mistakes which have cost the town dear.
abbotboy
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4:15pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Empty Car Park
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4:21pm Sun 20 Jan 13
I would go as far as to say "all but destroyed Swindon
The politics have taken priority over civic pride.
The heritage and past community spirit that Swindon should have as the
root of its image is subsequently destroyed. Leaving Swindon with its current reputation
Tim Newroman
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4:59pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Empty Car Park wrote:
Denying who I am is the realm of yourself and barman buddy.
Why would anyone deny who you are? Very odd.
And for what it's worth, I've never met Mr Feal-Martinez in my life. Unlike you, I'm not obsessed with him.
@abbotboy - I agree with you entirely about wasted money. Our money. Sadly, the things you mention are the tip of the iceberg and actually fairly small beer compared to other things they pointlessly squander our money on. Unfortunately, it seems that politicians at all levels seem happy to waste the money they steal from us.
The only upside re. our heritage and money spent is that the Tabernacle Stones do, soon, appear to have a chance of being utilised.
abbotboy
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5:29pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Empty Car Park
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6:50pm Sun 20 Jan 13
She'll probably rise like Phoenix from the ashes.
It beggars belief that anyone paying council taxes would wish to defend the current administration
KM1981
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8:07pm Sun 20 Jan 13
house on the hill wrote:Amen! I just cannot believe that there has been no comeback RE: £400,000 lost to Wi-Fi failure. Just criminal.
"""abbotboy says...
3:12pm Sun 20 Jan 13
What the needs of this town are for a 'party' to take over, and from what has gone on in the past this should be a party of independants and then run the town for the sake of the town and not for the honour of being council leader.. """""
Couldnt agree more, sadly politics just messes everything up. Decisions should be made for the benefit of those who pay their council tax with total openess and responsibility for their actions too instead of hiding behind party politics. All the main parties are just as useless as the others in the end, they have all made mistakes which have cost the town dear.
I would vote for you if you ran, do you fancy it...?
abbotboy
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9:06pm Sun 20 Jan 13
abbotboy
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9:08pm Sun 20 Jan 13
Tim Newroman
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9:11am Mon 21 Jan 13
Empty Car Park wrote:
I doubt she will remain shouted down.
She'll probably rise like Phoenix from the ashes.
And you accuse others of 'brown nosing'? Jeez...
A.Baron-Cohen
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11:19am Mon 21 Jan 13
I have no love lost for Mr Bluh, but I think that he was right, how can Mrs Boyd jeopardize the needs of children to protect her window view.
LordAshOfTheBrake
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11:43am Mon 21 Jan 13
He may be right specifically about the school being needed at some point; however his priorities were all wrong regarding the most pressing need for school places which is in the North of Swindon and not Old Town.
On that basis alone; it is Bluh that was jeopardising the needs of children possibly to protect his "new" council seat....... Especially since money was borrowed to build a school that is under subscribed.
There is still no firm plans for schools in North Swindon. What does that tell you about jeopardising the needs of children.
Grimwald
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12:06pm Mon 21 Jan 13
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:Mr Cohen perhaps you should read the many posts on the subject on www.talkswindon.org before you make such personal comments about Mrs Boyd's motives!!
It is very sad but unfortunately there are many like Mrs Boyd....selfish and narrow minded, and for which the world seems to be confined to the boundaries of their homes.
I have no love lost for Mr Bluh, but I think that he was right, how can Mrs Boyd jeopardize the needs of children to protect her window view.
A.Baron-Cohen
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12:48pm Mon 21 Jan 13
Grimwald wrote:Mrs Boyd's motives are as puerile as there are selfish.
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:Mr Cohen perhaps you should read the many posts on the subject on www.talkswindon.org before you make such personal comments about Mrs Boyd's motives!!
It is very sad but unfortunately there are many like Mrs Boyd....selfish and narrow minded, and for which the world seems to be confined to the boundaries of their homes.
I have no love lost for Mr Bluh, but I think that he was right, how can Mrs Boyd jeopardize the needs of children to protect her window view.
If I was to give this woman a budget and a decision, she wouldn't be able to deliver. Sometimes, a person should know his/her place and let the "pro" do their job.
We are wasting too much time and money delaying important investments in this town.
Time to shut up and get on with it.
Empty Car Park
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12:54pm Mon 21 Jan 13
let the "pro" do their job.
Lol
abbotboy
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3:06pm Mon 21 Jan 13
A.Baron-Cohen
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3:55pm Mon 21 Jan 13
abbotboy wrote:Maybe you need to consider the facts:
abc go to the school in whichelstowe, which is not so far from the croft one and see how many empty places they have, and this was built way before croft, go to croft and see the school children coming in the taxi to school, who pays for that, as for important building, what another 15 million car park indeed, you should keep your comments to the role model whose name you have taken and he was a fool as well.
People move, Demographic changes......
Building schools is about anticipating and planning for the future.
Mr Bluh has managed a lot more than building a car park.....check the local news for the last few years.
As for my name, well it is Aaron not Sacha, time to pick up a mag and brush up your who's who:-)
Tim Newroman
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4:31pm Mon 21 Jan 13
abbotboy
go to croft and see the school children coming in the taxi to school, who pays for that
The taxpayer, naturally.
It's got nothing to do with Croft, though. You would be astonished at home much councils a various other public sector organisations spend on taxis for a certain demographic. Many taxi firms are set-up and run almost exclusively to take advantage of these payments (they usually charge much higher prices than they would to you or I).
Empty Car Park
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7:44pm Mon 21 Jan 13
That reminds me of the time Councillor Peter Greehalgh lost his rag with the mild mannered "Inside Out West" interviewer
Empty Car Park
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8:54pm Mon 21 Jan 13
That would prevent sock puppets deliberately misinterpreting activities.
Here's an example.
http://www.plymouth.
public-i.tv/core/por
tal/webcast_interact
ive/93362
abbotboy
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9:11pm Mon 21 Jan 13
abbotboy
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9:27pm Mon 21 Jan 13
Tim Newroman
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7:11am Tue 22 Jan 13
It is blatantly obvious from the posting styles that A.Baron-Cohen is not Oliver Donachie and, as most know, previously posted for a very long time under a different login.
Has it not occurred to the Talk Swindon posse (the posts content and style somewhat gives it away) that the town's council is dominated by Tory councillors and that we have had two Tory MPs for almost 3 years.
Quite clearly and obviously, the Labour mentality is a minority one in the town. In fact, the hardcore really does just seem to be their own councillors, 12 or so people at Talk Swindon (half of which are Labour councillors, or wannabe councillors) and the last remaining bastions of Labour voters - ie, Manchester Road area and the large council estates.
Empty Car Park waffles on about 'phoenixes rising from the ashes' as if Ms Boyd is some kind of martyr... and then has the gall to call others 'sock puppets'. Honestly, it's all quite hilarious. For even more comedy, do visit Talk Swindon. It's spectacularly amusing how deluded they are over there, apart from about 3 people who at least try and point out to them how partisan they are.
Localboy86
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8:20am Tue 22 Jan 13
Bobfm ,
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8:41am Tue 22 Jan 13
Tim Newroman wrote:Haha the irony. YOUR posting style gives you away every time Tim aka Oliver aka I 2 Could B aka Mr Blackwell aka 20 eyes.
Why do so many Left wingers on here seem to believe that anyone who doesn't share their rabid and pathological hatred of the Tory council must be Oliver Donachie using numerous logins?
It is blatantly obvious from the posting styles that A.Baron-Cohen is not Oliver Donachie and, as most know, previously posted for a very long time under a different login.
Has it not occurred to the Talk Swindon posse (the posts content and style somewhat gives it away) that the town's council is dominated by Tory councillors and that we have had two Tory MPs for almost 3 years.
Quite clearly and obviously, the Labour mentality is a minority one in the town. In fact, the hardcore really does just seem to be their own councillors, 12 or so people at Talk Swindon (half of which are Labour councillors, or wannabe councillors) and the last remaining bastions of Labour voters - ie, Manchester Road area and the large council estates.
Empty Car Park waffles on about 'phoenixes rising from the ashes' as if Ms Boyd is some kind of martyr... and then has the gall to call others 'sock puppets'. Honestly, it's all quite hilarious. For even more comedy, do visit Talk Swindon. It's spectacularly amusing how deluded they are over there, apart from about 3 people who at least try and point out to them how partisan they are.
A bit sad.
Empty Car Park
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9:56am Tue 22 Jan 13
So the sock puppets' determination, to excuse all the errors of the current SBC administration as just "winging from lefties" does indeed give him away every time
abbotboy
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10:56am Tue 22 Jan 13
Tim Newroman
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1:26pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Empty Car Park wrote:Er, who said that she was?
Kareen Boyd is not a member of the Labour party, any more than I am.
So the sock puppets' determination, to excuse all the errors of the current SBC administration as just "winging from lefties" does indeed give him away every time
More to the point, why are you brown nosing her?
abbotboy
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3:13pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Empty Car Park
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5:51pm Tue 22 Jan 13
A bit sad
Extremely sad
abbotboy
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8:21pm Tue 22 Jan 13
Empty Car Park
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9:37pm Tue 22 Jan 13
The sock puppet has shown the extremes of his lowly effort by not just using other pseudonyms but actually inventing characteristics for each of his other aliases (an activity that he so overtly condemns of others)
Unfortunately the sock puppet is overtly venomous and unable to accept that critics of the administration are not so simply to promote "the other party"
The current administration of SBC have let Swindon down badly and continue to do so. They are as arrogant as he is
He has done neither his councillor partner, himself, or the Tory administration any good service ( via any of his "characters")
In fact he has just portrayed himself as a complete nutcase.
I remember when he said he would use "robust treatment" that would drive me from these threads (such is his arrogance and self importance)
No names necessary. This thread has been well read.
Now if only SBC would stop wasting our taxes, on silly projects and bizzare road schemes.
Start listening to the citizens instead of claiming some misguided supremacy
abbotboy
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1:31pm Wed 23 Jan 13
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Tm, Oliver, ABC, Localboy86, and etc etc, I wonder if the adver actually looks at these registrations or is it imput from the council direct!!.
LordAshOfTheBrake says...
9:16am Sat 19 Jan 13
I can't help but think there is some connection between the fact that Bluh represents the old town area and the timing of the announcements/buildi
ng the school and the political landscape going into elections!
There is still no firm plans for increasing school places in North Swindon; both primary and secondary..