Swindon Commercial Services Ltd to shed 70 jobs

Swindon Advertiser: Council contractor is to shed 70 jobs Council contractor is to shed 70 jobs

UP TO 70 jobs could go at the firm which provides the bulk of services for Swindon Council as it strives to deal with reduced income.

Swindon Commercial Services Ltd (SCS), which employs about 770 people, has started a staff consultation on plans to restructure to cope with expected ongoing reduced funding from Swindon Council, its main client, as well as other public sector clients.

The firm, based at Waterside Park, at Cheney Manor Industrial Estate, provides Swindon Council’s Streetsmart services, such as waste and recycling collection, highways maintenance, and grass-cutting, and also maintains council houses and a construction division that builds facilities such as schools.

SCS managing director Bill Fisher said the firm would review posts across the board, including managers and office support staff, with the aim of the new structure coming into operation on April 1.

He said: “If Swindon Borough Council is under financial pressure it does rub off on its delivery partners and we’re one of their biggest, so if they have less to spend we have less income to pay staff. So there’s a knock-on effect of public service pressures.

“As an independent company, we’re working out there to replace this historic income – local government income – by meeting new customers out there and trying to offer them all of our services.”

Mr Fisher said an official consultation with staff and unions started last week and he was personally aiming to explain the situation to all staff in groups of about 50 to 60 over the next few days.

He said one key point of discussion would be the process in which the reductions should come about, adding: “We will do it in the least damaging way, firstly to my staff, secondly to my customers – so in that respect Swindon Borough Council is a customer – and lastly we will do it in the least damaging way to the public.

“So we won’t see roads go ungritted or anything like that.”

Mr Fisher said the review was about ensuring the firm was best placed to meet the needs of customers, not about achieving savings to plug a budget gap, adding that the firm is still profitable.

Coun Des Moffatt, the Labour group’s finance lead, said he would speak to his colleagues and senior council officers to prevent some of the possible job losses, adding that Swindon needed more redundancies “like a hole in the head”.

He said: “In particular I’m very concerned we’re losing 70.

“These aren’t pen-pushers, they’re the real people who fix buildings, who mend holes in the road, who collect rubbish, who cut grass and hedges. That’s very, very disappointing.”

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9:40am Tue 29 Jan 13

salt and vinegar says...

Coun Des Moffatt is on the case so watch this space! "lol,...
Coun Des Moffatt is on the case so watch this space! "lol,... salt and vinegar

9:42am Tue 29 Jan 13

twasadawf says...

Lay off the pen pusher's not the people that actually do real job's fixing and maintaining i know this is supposed to be a contractor to the council but in essence it would not exist without the council contract, when will the people of swindon make a stand against the bureaucrats that are milking the system being paid handsomely for incompetence
Lay off the pen pusher's not the people that actually do real job's fixing and maintaining i know this is supposed to be a contractor to the council but in essence it would not exist without the council contract, when will the people of swindon make a stand against the bureaucrats that are milking the system being paid handsomely for incompetence twasadawf

10:04am Tue 29 Jan 13

Miss Jools says...

'Pen pushers'!!! What a complete denigration of a whole section of the work force, and this from someone who is just a glorified 'paper pusher' and probably not a very affective one at that!
'Pen pushers'!!! What a complete denigration of a whole section of the work force, and this from someone who is just a glorified 'paper pusher' and probably not a very affective one at that! Miss Jools

10:04am Tue 29 Jan 13

Bobby Wright says...

About time they got rid of some of the laziest workers in Swindon. More breaks than Steve Davies, housing maintenance trolls leaving rubbish all over the place because they’re too lazy to take it back to the depot to dispose of it.
The grass cutter leaving a total mess of the pavements as they swan around on their motormowers like big kids on a go kart track.
For too long these former council employees have been on a gravy train of perks and practices where a hard days work is something they only laugh at.
Lets see a few more of these Tea Boys go and maybe we’ll get some decent contractors providing better services for the money we pay in council tax.
About time they got rid of some of the laziest workers in Swindon. More breaks than Steve Davies, housing maintenance trolls leaving rubbish all over the place because they’re too lazy to take it back to the depot to dispose of it. The grass cutter leaving a total mess of the pavements as they swan around on their motormowers like big kids on a go kart track. For too long these former council employees have been on a gravy train of perks and practices where a hard days work is something they only laugh at. Lets see a few more of these Tea Boys go and maybe we’ll get some decent contractors providing better services for the money we pay in council tax. Bobby Wright

10:15am Tue 29 Jan 13

Davey Gravey says...

More cuts to vital services. Was bad enough last year with upto 8 weeks between grass getting cut on verges. A poor service now to get even worse.
More cuts to vital services. Was bad enough last year with upto 8 weeks between grass getting cut on verges. A poor service now to get even worse. Davey Gravey

10:21am Tue 29 Jan 13

Tim Newroman says...

SCS is a private limited company. Like any other limited company, they can only employ people if they're able to generate enough revenue to cover their salaries (plus NI and associated costs).

Sadly, if their customers don't need their services to the required level, they have to shed staff.

It's not pleasant, of course, and nobody likes to see people lose their jobs, but artificially employing people based on taxpayers propping up failing business models is not the answer.

Des Moffatt's comments really serve to highlight how out of touch he is. Those he sneeringly refer to as 'pen pushers' (who, apparently, he doesn't see as being 'real' people) often do invaluable jobs... and these days they're often the ones generating actual revenue. But when you're the likes of Des Moffatt, you don't believe in working for a living, you just force people who do work to hand you more of their money through taxes or union subscriptions. And it's precisely that attitude that's landed the UK in the economic mess it's currently in.
SCS is a private limited company. Like any other limited company, they can only employ people if they're able to generate enough revenue to cover their salaries (plus NI and associated costs). [p] Sadly, if their customers don't need their services to the required level, they have to shed staff. [p] It's not pleasant, of course, and nobody likes to see people lose their jobs, but artificially employing people based on taxpayers propping up failing business models is not the answer. [p] Des Moffatt's comments really serve to highlight how out of touch he is. Those he sneeringly refer to as 'pen pushers' (who, apparently, he doesn't see as being 'real' people) often do invaluable jobs... and these days they're often the ones generating actual revenue. But when you're the likes of Des Moffatt, you don't believe in working for a living, you just force people who do work to hand you more of their money through taxes or union subscriptions. And it's precisely that attitude that's landed the UK in the economic mess it's currently in. Tim Newroman

10:21am Tue 29 Jan 13

candid friend says...

You need to worry when Moffatt gets involved. The financial position will get worse as he tries to put off necessary decisions.
You need to worry when Moffatt gets involved. The financial position will get worse as he tries to put off necessary decisions. candid friend

10:22am Tue 29 Jan 13

The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
More cuts to vital services. Was bad enough last year with upto 8 weeks between grass getting cut on verges. A poor service now to get even worse.
Yeah, but they blamed the weather for that....
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: More cuts to vital services. Was bad enough last year with upto 8 weeks between grass getting cut on verges. A poor service now to get even worse.[/p][/quote]Yeah, but they blamed the weather for that.... The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man

10:32am Tue 29 Jan 13

Tim Newroman says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
More cuts to vital services. Was bad enough last year with upto 8 weeks between grass getting cut on verges. A poor service now to get even worse.
If Labour hadn't spent all the money, maybe it wouldn't be quite so bad.

Although, if grass not being cut on verges for 8 weeks is what's considered a hardship...
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: More cuts to vital services. Was bad enough last year with upto 8 weeks between grass getting cut on verges. A poor service now to get even worse.[/p][/quote]If Labour hadn't spent all the money, maybe it wouldn't be quite so bad. [p] Although, if grass not being cut on verges for 8 weeks is what's considered a hardship... Tim Newroman

11:12am Tue 29 Jan 13

cherryblossom says...

Des Moffatt says: “These aren’t pen-pushers, they’re the real people who fix buildings, who mend holes in the road, who collect rubbish, who cut grass and hedges. That’s very, very disappointing.”

Erm Aplogise now you silly man.....what an idiotic thing to say...so because some people push pens and dont do manual labour that means they are not real people??? Cretin!
Des Moffatt says: “These aren’t pen-pushers, they’re the real people who fix buildings, who mend holes in the road, who collect rubbish, who cut grass and hedges. That’s very, very disappointing.” Erm Aplogise now you silly man.....what an idiotic thing to say...so because some people push pens and dont do manual labour that means they are not real people??? Cretin! cherryblossom

11:32am Tue 29 Jan 13

A.Baron-Cohen says...

Considering the lack of Growth and the increasing level of debts this government is now commanding, it is inevitable to expect budget cuts at council level.
The main issue is that we have greatly underestimated the role of Central/local/Public spending in the Private Economy.
Now we are seeing the real impact of Government spending cuts on the private sector Economy and jobs.
Considering the lack of Growth and the increasing level of debts this government is now commanding, it is inevitable to expect budget cuts at council level. The main issue is that we have greatly underestimated the role of Central/local/Public spending in the Private Economy. Now we are seeing the real impact of Government spending cuts on the private sector Economy and jobs. A.Baron-Cohen

12:04pm Tue 29 Jan 13

Davey Gravey says...

Site moderator. How about reading what is said before deleting it and sending out warnings? What was offensive in what i said? Maybe you should ignore petty complaints and sort out the abuse that goes on here? The girl whose car got damaged insulted,and the young mum with a damp flat abused and insulted. Sort out the real problems with this site,not give into pathetic whines from fools.
Site moderator. How about reading what is said before deleting it and sending out warnings? What was offensive in what i said? Maybe you should ignore petty complaints and sort out the abuse that goes on here? The girl whose car got damaged insulted,and the young mum with a damp flat abused and insulted. Sort out the real problems with this site,not give into pathetic whines from fools. Davey Gravey

12:49pm Tue 29 Jan 13

peatmoor pirate says...

A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Considering the lack of Growth and the increasing level of debts this government is now commanding, it is inevitable to expect budget cuts at council level.
The main issue is that we have greatly underestimated the role of Central/local/Public spending in the Private Economy.
Now we are seeing the real impact of Government spending cuts on the private sector Economy and jobs.
It's true that much "public expenditure" is made in the private sector and this has dropped dramatically in the last few years affecting private sector jobs. It's a shame for those losng their jobs and ultimately a shame for everyone.This is another group of people who will be trying to get employment in an already crowded market.
[quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: Considering the lack of Growth and the increasing level of debts this government is now commanding, it is inevitable to expect budget cuts at council level. The main issue is that we have greatly underestimated the role of Central/local/Public spending in the Private Economy. Now we are seeing the real impact of Government spending cuts on the private sector Economy and jobs.[/p][/quote]It's true that much "public expenditure" is made in the private sector and this has dropped dramatically in the last few years affecting private sector jobs. It's a shame for those losng their jobs and ultimately a shame for everyone.This is another group of people who will be trying to get employment in an already crowded market. peatmoor pirate

1:13pm Tue 29 Jan 13

Davey Gravey says...

Tim Newroman wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
More cuts to vital services. Was bad enough last year with upto 8 weeks between grass getting cut on verges. A poor service now to get even worse.
If Labour hadn't spent all the money, maybe it wouldn't be quite so bad.

Although, if grass not being cut on verges for 8 weeks is what's considered a hardship...
Pointless me responding to you as you then complain to the site moderator. Pathetic.
[quote][p][bold]Tim Newroman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: More cuts to vital services. Was bad enough last year with upto 8 weeks between grass getting cut on verges. A poor service now to get even worse.[/p][/quote]If Labour hadn't spent all the money, maybe it wouldn't be quite so bad. [p] Although, if grass not being cut on verges for 8 weeks is what's considered a hardship...[/p][/quote]Pointless me responding to you as you then complain to the site moderator. Pathetic. Davey Gravey

1:43pm Tue 29 Jan 13

house on the hill says...

A very strange comment about pen pushers bearing in mind the vast majority of council workers and the public sector in general fall into that category! and without the pen pushers, the "workers" wouldnt know where to go, what to do when they got there or have the equipement to do it with!
Idiot!
A very strange comment about pen pushers bearing in mind the vast majority of council workers and the public sector in general fall into that category! and without the pen pushers, the "workers" wouldnt know where to go, what to do when they got there or have the equipement to do it with! Idiot! house on the hill

2:27pm Tue 29 Jan 13

roberto5 says...

SCS are a shower, it took about 15 call outs to fix a minor plumbing problem at a well know leisure area owned by Swindon Council, each time they were called they claimed it was fixed before braking soon afterwards. Some of the people they employ are complete idiots, who have little knowledge of the sector they are working in.
SCS are a shower, it took about 15 call outs to fix a minor plumbing problem at a well know leisure area owned by Swindon Council, each time they were called they claimed it was fixed before braking soon afterwards. Some of the people they employ are complete idiots, who have little knowledge of the sector they are working in. roberto5

3:00pm Tue 29 Jan 13

The Real Librarian says...

cherryblossom wrote:
Des Moffatt says: “These aren’t pen-pushers, they’re the real people who fix buildings, who mend holes in the road, who collect rubbish, who cut grass and hedges. That’s very, very disappointing.” Erm Aplogise now you silly man.....what an idiotic thing to say...so because some people push pens and dont do manual labour that means they are not real people??? Cretin!
What he means is that literate people who can think to a certain standard are too bright to vote Labour, so he doesn't care about them
[quote][p][bold]cherryblossom[/bold] wrote: Des Moffatt says: “These aren’t pen-pushers, they’re the real people who fix buildings, who mend holes in the road, who collect rubbish, who cut grass and hedges. That’s very, very disappointing.” Erm Aplogise now you silly man.....what an idiotic thing to say...so because some people push pens and dont do manual labour that means they are not real people??? Cretin![/p][/quote]What he means is that literate people who can think to a certain standard are too bright to vote Labour, so he doesn't care about them The Real Librarian

3:55pm Tue 29 Jan 13

twasadawf says...

Pen pushers equal's Job's worth's
Pen pushers equal's Job's worth's twasadawf

3:55pm Tue 29 Jan 13

twasadawf says...

Pen pushers equal's Job's worth's
Pen pushers equal's Job's worth's twasadawf

4:21pm Tue 29 Jan 13

Bobfm , says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Site moderator. How about reading what is said before deleting it and sending out warnings? What was offensive in what i said? Maybe you should ignore petty complaints and sort out the abuse that goes on here? The girl whose car got damaged insulted,and the young mum with a damp flat abused and insulted. Sort out the real problems with this site,not give into pathetic whines from fools.
Yes I agree. Interesting that my comment highlighting Oliver's alleged multiple trollings (summarised by '13 years of labour blah blah blah) got deleted too.

Thought you hated censorship?
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Site moderator. How about reading what is said before deleting it and sending out warnings? What was offensive in what i said? Maybe you should ignore petty complaints and sort out the abuse that goes on here? The girl whose car got damaged insulted,and the young mum with a damp flat abused and insulted. Sort out the real problems with this site,not give into pathetic whines from fools.[/p][/quote]Yes I agree. Interesting that my comment highlighting Oliver's alleged multiple trollings (summarised by '13 years of labour blah blah blah) got deleted too. Thought you hated censorship? Bobfm ,

5:42pm Tue 29 Jan 13

semitonic says...

The Real Librarian wrote:
cherryblossom wrote:
Des Moffatt says: “These aren’t pen-pushers, they’re the real people who fix buildings, who mend holes in the road, who collect rubbish, who cut grass and hedges. That’s very, very disappointing.” Erm Aplogise now you silly man.....what an idiotic thing to say...so because some people push pens and dont do manual labour that means they are not real people??? Cretin!
What he means is that literate people who can think to a certain standard are too bright to vote Labour, so he doesn't care about them
"Labour supporters are cleverer than Tories, Canadian study claims

If you are clever, you vote for Labour and Ed Miliband. But if you are not so bright the chances are you will back the Tories.

That is the conclusion of experts who studied research comparing childhood intelligence with political views in adulthood in 15,000 people.

They found that intelligence, rather than ­education, wealth or social status, decides whether people are narrow-minded or bigoted in later life."


Pillock.
[quote][p][bold]The Real Librarian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cherryblossom[/bold] wrote: Des Moffatt says: “These aren’t pen-pushers, they’re the real people who fix buildings, who mend holes in the road, who collect rubbish, who cut grass and hedges. That’s very, very disappointing.” Erm Aplogise now you silly man.....what an idiotic thing to say...so because some people push pens and dont do manual labour that means they are not real people??? Cretin![/p][/quote]What he means is that literate people who can think to a certain standard are too bright to vote Labour, so he doesn't care about them[/p][/quote]"[bold]Labour supporters are cleverer than Tories, Canadian study claims[/bold] [italic]If you are clever, you vote for Labour and Ed Miliband. But if you are not so bright the chances are you will back the Tories. That is the conclusion of experts who studied research comparing childhood intelligence with political views in adulthood in 15,000 people. They found that intelligence, rather than ­education, wealth or social status, decides whether people are narrow-minded or bigoted in later life."[/italic] Pillock. semitonic

5:47pm Tue 29 Jan 13

SAM2WIN says...

"SCS is a private limited company. Like any other limited company, they can only employ people if they're able to generate enough revenue to cover their salaries (plus NI and associated costs"

True but SBC is the 100% shareholder of SCS.

SCS is committed to pay a dividend of about £3.000.000.to SBC for 2012/2013 ! (See last year's council tax leaflet.) If SCS survive it will be interesting to see the dividend required by SBC for the coming year
"SCS is a private limited company. Like any other limited company, they can only employ people if they're able to generate enough revenue to cover their salaries (plus NI and associated costs" True but SBC is the 100% shareholder of SCS. SCS is committed to pay a dividend of about £3.000.000.to SBC for 2012/2013 ! (See last year's council tax leaflet.) If SCS survive it will be interesting to see the dividend required by SBC for the coming year SAM2WIN

5:55pm Tue 29 Jan 13

faatmaan says...

abolishing triple time for bank holiday working would possibly save a job or two, implement stricter working practices like actually working full shifts rather than till job finished would help, ( council should by now know how long the jobs really take).
abolishing triple time for bank holiday working would possibly save a job or two, implement stricter working practices like actually working full shifts rather than till job finished would help, ( council should by now know how long the jobs really take). faatmaan

6:31pm Tue 29 Jan 13

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

semitonic wrote:
The Real Librarian wrote:
cherryblossom wrote:
Des Moffatt says: “These aren’t pen-pushers, they’re the real people who fix buildings, who mend holes in the road, who collect rubbish, who cut grass and hedges. That’s very, very disappointing.” Erm Aplogise now you silly man.....what an idiotic thing to say...so because some people push pens and dont do manual labour that means they are not real people??? Cretin!
What he means is that literate people who can think to a certain standard are too bright to vote Labour, so he doesn't care about them
"Labour supporters are cleverer than Tories, Canadian study claims

If you are clever, you vote for Labour and Ed Miliband. But if you are not so bright the chances are you will back the Tories.

That is the conclusion of experts who studied research comparing childhood intelligence with political views in adulthood in 15,000 people.

They found that intelligence, rather than ­education, wealth or social status, decides whether people are narrow-minded or bigoted in later life."


Pillock.
I guess that explains why more people vote labour are in receipt of benefits than those who don't......

I know a few people who changed their party based purely on the fact they will get more out of labour in benefits.


Oooo...... Could there be a correlation there about voting patterns and whether people are contributors or receivers.
[quote][p][bold]semitonic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Real Librarian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cherryblossom[/bold] wrote: Des Moffatt says: “These aren’t pen-pushers, they’re the real people who fix buildings, who mend holes in the road, who collect rubbish, who cut grass and hedges. That’s very, very disappointing.” Erm Aplogise now you silly man.....what an idiotic thing to say...so because some people push pens and dont do manual labour that means they are not real people??? Cretin![/p][/quote]What he means is that literate people who can think to a certain standard are too bright to vote Labour, so he doesn't care about them[/p][/quote]"[bold]Labour supporters are cleverer than Tories, Canadian study claims[/bold] [italic]If you are clever, you vote for Labour and Ed Miliband. But if you are not so bright the chances are you will back the Tories. That is the conclusion of experts who studied research comparing childhood intelligence with political views in adulthood in 15,000 people. They found that intelligence, rather than ­education, wealth or social status, decides whether people are narrow-minded or bigoted in later life."[/italic] Pillock.[/p][/quote]I guess that explains why more people vote labour are in receipt of benefits than those who don't...... I know a few people who changed their party based purely on the fact they will get more out of labour in benefits. Oooo...... Could there be a correlation there about voting patterns and whether people are contributors or receivers. LordAshOfTheBrake

6:37pm Tue 29 Jan 13

KojaktheWarg says...

Did he really say this?

"These aren’t pen-pushers, they’re the real people who fix buildings, who mend holes in the road"

If so, he clearly doesnt have "pen-pushers" voting for him unless they like being talked about like that. I would argue he isn't a real person either coming out with ill-thought comments like that.
Did he really say this? "These aren’t pen-pushers, they’re the real people who fix buildings, who mend holes in the road" If so, he clearly doesnt have "pen-pushers" voting for him unless they like being talked about like that. I would argue he isn't a real person either coming out with ill-thought comments like that. KojaktheWarg

7:18pm Tue 29 Jan 13

Tim Newroman says...

Bobfm , wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Site moderator. How about reading what is said before deleting it and sending out warnings? What was offensive in what i said? Maybe you should ignore petty complaints and sort out the abuse that goes on here? The girl whose car got damaged insulted,and the young mum with a damp flat abused and insulted. Sort out the real problems with this site,not give into pathetic whines from fools.
Yes I agree. Interesting that my comment highlighting Oliver's alleged multiple trollings (summarised by '13 years of labour blah blah blah) got deleted too.

Thought you hated censorship?
'Muliple trollings'? Now then, who do we know who's practically written the bible as far as that's concerned? Must admit, I didn't know (until the above post) that you use the Bobfm , login AS WELL as all your others.

As for reporting posts - well, you can hardly whinge about it when it's something you yourself make an artform of.
[quote][p][bold]Bobfm ,[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Site moderator. How about reading what is said before deleting it and sending out warnings? What was offensive in what i said? Maybe you should ignore petty complaints and sort out the abuse that goes on here? The girl whose car got damaged insulted,and the young mum with a damp flat abused and insulted. Sort out the real problems with this site,not give into pathetic whines from fools.[/p][/quote]Yes I agree. Interesting that my comment highlighting Oliver's alleged multiple trollings (summarised by '13 years of labour blah blah blah) got deleted too. Thought you hated censorship?[/p][/quote]'Muliple trollings'? Now then, who do we know who's practically written the bible as far as that's concerned? Must admit, I didn't know (until the above post) that you use the Bobfm , login AS WELL as all your others. [p] As for reporting posts - well, you can hardly whinge about it when it's something you yourself make an artform of. Tim Newroman

7:19pm Tue 29 Jan 13

RichardR1 says...

Bobfm seems to be a lot of invoking the report button, it seems some can give it out but can't take it.

As for SCS why do I get the impression that rate payers will again be paying the redundancy payments even though they are not supposed to be direct council employees.
Bobfm seems to be a lot of invoking the report button, it seems some can give it out but can't take it. As for SCS why do I get the impression that rate payers will again be paying the redundancy payments even though they are not supposed to be direct council employees. RichardR1

8:36pm Tue 29 Jan 13

Davey Gravey says...

Tim Newroman wrote:
Bobfm , wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Site moderator. How about reading what is said before deleting it and sending out warnings? What was offensive in what i said? Maybe you should ignore petty complaints and sort out the abuse that goes on here? The girl whose car got damaged insulted,and the young mum with a damp flat abused and insulted. Sort out the real problems with this site,not give into pathetic whines from fools.
Yes I agree. Interesting that my comment highlighting Oliver's alleged multiple trollings (summarised by '13 years of labour blah blah blah) got deleted too.

Thought you hated censorship?
'Muliple trollings'? Now then, who do we know who's practically written the bible as far as that's concerned? Must admit, I didn't know (until the above post) that you use the Bobfm , login AS WELL as all your others.

As for reporting posts - well, you can hardly whinge about it when it's something you yourself make an artform of.
I have no interest in your feud. Why you complained about my post I don't know. Maybe the Internet isn't for you if you are so fragile and easily offended. The moderator should have ignored your petty whining.
[quote][p][bold]Tim Newroman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bobfm ,[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Site moderator. How about reading what is said before deleting it and sending out warnings? What was offensive in what i said? Maybe you should ignore petty complaints and sort out the abuse that goes on here? The girl whose car got damaged insulted,and the young mum with a damp flat abused and insulted. Sort out the real problems with this site,not give into pathetic whines from fools.[/p][/quote]Yes I agree. Interesting that my comment highlighting Oliver's alleged multiple trollings (summarised by '13 years of labour blah blah blah) got deleted too. Thought you hated censorship?[/p][/quote]'Muliple trollings'? Now then, who do we know who's practically written the bible as far as that's concerned? Must admit, I didn't know (until the above post) that you use the Bobfm , login AS WELL as all your others. [p] As for reporting posts - well, you can hardly whinge about it when it's something you yourself make an artform of.[/p][/quote]I have no interest in your feud. Why you complained about my post I don't know. Maybe the Internet isn't for you if you are so fragile and easily offended. The moderator should have ignored your petty whining. Davey Gravey

11:20pm Tue 29 Jan 13

LocalBob80 says...

Such a shame that yet more jobs are being lost.
Especially as Rod Bluh assured us that Swindon was bucking the trend
Such a shame that yet more jobs are being lost. Especially as Rod Bluh assured us that Swindon was bucking the trend LocalBob80

11:30pm Tue 29 Jan 13

LocalBob80 says...

One whole minute
[b]One whole minute[/b] LocalBob80

11:32pm Tue 29 Jan 13

LocalBob80 says...

One whole minute
[bold] One whole minute [/bold] LocalBob80

11:40pm Tue 29 Jan 13

LocalBob80 says...

Tim Newroman says...
7:18pm Tue 29 Jan 13
'Muliple trollings'? Now then, who do we know who's practically written the bible as far as that's concerned? Must admit, I didn't know (until the above post) that you use the Bobfm , login AS WELL as all your others.

As for reporting posts - well, you can hardly whinge about it when it's something you yourself make an artform of.


RichardR1 says...
7:19pm Tue 29 Jan 13

Just one minute later

Bobfm seems to be a lot of invoking the report button, it seems some can give it out but can't take it.


Are you two sharing a keyboard or do you phone each other to respond
Tim Newroman says... 7:18pm Tue 29 Jan 13 [quote] 'Muliple trollings'? Now then, who do we know who's practically written the bible as far as that's concerned? Must admit, I didn't know (until the above post) that you use the Bobfm , login AS WELL as all your others. As for reporting posts - well, you can hardly whinge about it when it's something you yourself make an artform of.[/quote] RichardR1 says... 7:19pm Tue 29 Jan 13 [bold] Just one minute [/bold] later [quote] Bobfm seems to be a lot of invoking the report button, it seems some can give it out but can't take it. [/quote] Are you two sharing a keyboard or do you phone each other to respond LocalBob80

8:18am Wed 30 Jan 13

house on the hill says...

I think anyone who has had dealings with SCS knows they are very inefficient and thats if they turn up at all. They also have "set" times for jobs and if they finish sooner instead of going back and getting another job, they just stretch out the time sat in their vans. And they stil finish at lunchtime on a friday even though they expect other people to be working al hours to suit them whatever the weather.
An archaic organisation that is well past its sell by date. But then being linked to SBC that isnt entirely surprising.

As for the idiot who says that pen pushers equals jobs worths, firstly every business needs admin staff (pen pushers) to survive and secondly jobsworths are limited to the public sector, the private sector knows what a waste of money they are and got rid of them years ago.
I think anyone who has had dealings with SCS knows they are very inefficient and thats if they turn up at all. They also have "set" times for jobs and if they finish sooner instead of going back and getting another job, they just stretch out the time sat in their vans. And they stil finish at lunchtime on a friday even though they expect other people to be working al hours to suit them whatever the weather. An archaic organisation that is well past its sell by date. But then being linked to SBC that isnt entirely surprising. As for the idiot who says that pen pushers equals jobs worths, firstly every business needs admin staff (pen pushers) to survive and secondly jobsworths are limited to the public sector, the private sector knows what a waste of money they are and got rid of them years ago. house on the hill

8:49am Wed 30 Jan 13

RichardR1 says...

LocalBob80 how truly pathetic, so I'm now Bobfm, because our posts highlight the same problem and are a minute apart.

Now I may be slow, but I don't think I could change logins and make another post all within one minute.

I posted what I did because when I logged in I clearly got the same message from the moderators as others did.

It has long been established that Bobfm is not Robfm, who some delusionally think I am.

I could of course have pressed the report comment button but I am not a wimp like some clearly are.
LocalBob80 how truly pathetic, so I'm now Bobfm, because our posts highlight the same problem and are a minute apart. Now I may be slow, but I don't think I could change logins and make another post all within one minute. I posted what I did because when I logged in I clearly got the same message from the moderators as others did. It has long been established that Bobfm is not Robfm, who some delusionally think I am. I could of course have pressed the report comment button but I am not a wimp like some clearly are. RichardR1

9:22am Wed 30 Jan 13

LocalBob80 says...

RichardR1 says...
8:49am Wed 30 Jan 13
LocalBob80 how truly pathetic, so I'm now Bobfm, because our posts highlight the same problem and are a minute apart.


err.... No!
Nowhere in that comment do I accuse you of being Bobfm
RichardR1 says... 8:49am Wed 30 Jan 13 [quote]LocalBob80 how truly pathetic, so I'm now Bobfm, because our posts highlight the same problem and are a minute apart.[/quote] err.... No! Nowhere in that comment do I accuse you of being Bobfm LocalBob80

9:31am Wed 30 Jan 13

Tim Newroman says...

LocalBob80 wrote:
Tim Newroman says...
7:18pm Tue 29 Jan 13
'Muliple trollings'? Now then, who do we know who's practically written the bible as far as that's concerned? Must admit, I didn't know (until the above post) that you use the Bobfm , login AS WELL as all your others.

As for reporting posts - well, you can hardly whinge about it when it's something you yourself make an artform of.


RichardR1 says...
7:19pm Tue 29 Jan 13

Just one minute later

Bobfm seems to be a lot of invoking the report button, it seems some can give it out but can't take it.


Are you two sharing a keyboard or do you phone each other to respond
What are you even talking about?

There is only one person who continually makes these utterly non-sequitor leaps of imagination and thinks that any other people in a thread must be the same person because they post on it at similar times.

Still, now we know you ALSO use the LocalBob80 login. No wonder you think everyone else on the thread is the same person because you use so many yourself.

And we also know that you use these different logins to report people who don't toe your increasingly bizarre line. Sad.
[quote][p][bold]LocalBob80[/bold] wrote: Tim Newroman says... 7:18pm Tue 29 Jan 13 [quote] 'Muliple trollings'? Now then, who do we know who's practically written the bible as far as that's concerned? Must admit, I didn't know (until the above post) that you use the Bobfm , login AS WELL as all your others. As for reporting posts - well, you can hardly whinge about it when it's something you yourself make an artform of.[/quote] RichardR1 says... 7:19pm Tue 29 Jan 13 [bold] Just one minute [/bold] later [quote] Bobfm seems to be a lot of invoking the report button, it seems some can give it out but can't take it. [/quote] Are you two sharing a keyboard or do you phone each other to respond[/p][/quote]What are you even talking about? [p] There is only one person who continually makes these utterly non-sequitor leaps of imagination and thinks that any other people in a thread must be the same person because they post on it at similar times. [p] Still, now we know you ALSO use the LocalBob80 login. No wonder you think everyone else on the thread is the same person because you use so many yourself. [p] And we also know that you use these different logins to report people who don't toe your increasingly bizarre line. Sad. Tim Newroman

10:10am Wed 30 Jan 13

Davey Gravey says...

Tim Newroman wrote:
LocalBob80 wrote:
Tim Newroman says...
7:18pm Tue 29 Jan 13
'Muliple trollings'? Now then, who do we know who's practically written the bible as far as that's concerned? Must admit, I didn't know (until the above post) that you use the Bobfm , login AS WELL as all your others.

As for reporting posts - well, you can hardly whinge about it when it's something you yourself make an artform of.


RichardR1 says...
7:19pm Tue 29 Jan 13

Just one minute later

Bobfm seems to be a lot of invoking the report button, it seems some can give it out but can't take it.


Are you two sharing a keyboard or do you phone each other to respond
What are you even talking about?

There is only one person who continually makes these utterly non-sequitor leaps of imagination and thinks that any other people in a thread must be the same person because they post on it at similar times.

Still, now we know you ALSO use the LocalBob80 login. No wonder you think everyone else on the thread is the same person because you use so many yourself.

And we also know that you use these different logins to report people who don't toe your increasingly bizarre line. Sad.
What's your excuse then? Rather hypocritical don't you think? You went crying to mods yourself over nothing. Many of you on here are pathetic. If you cannot counter things you don't like with reasonable arguement rather than complaining to mods then Internet debate isn't for you.
[quote][p][bold]Tim Newroman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LocalBob80[/bold] wrote: Tim Newroman says... 7:18pm Tue 29 Jan 13 [quote] 'Muliple trollings'? Now then, who do we know who's practically written the bible as far as that's concerned? Must admit, I didn't know (until the above post) that you use the Bobfm , login AS WELL as all your others. As for reporting posts - well, you can hardly whinge about it when it's something you yourself make an artform of.[/quote] RichardR1 says... 7:19pm Tue 29 Jan 13 [bold] Just one minute [/bold] later [quote] Bobfm seems to be a lot of invoking the report button, it seems some can give it out but can't take it. [/quote] Are you two sharing a keyboard or do you phone each other to respond[/p][/quote]What are you even talking about? [p] There is only one person who continually makes these utterly non-sequitor leaps of imagination and thinks that any other people in a thread must be the same person because they post on it at similar times. [p] Still, now we know you ALSO use the LocalBob80 login. No wonder you think everyone else on the thread is the same person because you use so many yourself. [p] And we also know that you use these different logins to report people who don't toe your increasingly bizarre line. Sad.[/p][/quote]What's your excuse then? Rather hypocritical don't you think? You went crying to mods yourself over nothing. Many of you on here are pathetic. If you cannot counter things you don't like with reasonable arguement rather than complaining to mods then Internet debate isn't for you. Davey Gravey

11:01am Wed 30 Jan 13

RichardR1 says...

I think most would agree that is exactly what you are intimating 'Are you two sharing a keyboard or do you phone each other to respond'. LocalBob80
I think most would agree that is exactly what you are intimating 'Are you two sharing a keyboard or do you phone each other to respond'. LocalBob80 RichardR1

11:06am Wed 30 Jan 13

LocalBob80 says...

Tim Newroman says...
9:31am Wed 30 Jan 13
What are you even talking about?

There is only one person who continually makes these utterly non-sequitor leaps of imagination and thinks that any other people in a thread must be the same person because they post on it at similar times.


I am very sorry Tim.
I have not accused anybody of posting under a different name.

I merely pointed out that yourself and Richard respond with each other very well

Not sure how or why my comment has been so misinterpreted but I do apologise if that's how it came across
[bold]Tim Newroman says... [/bold] 9:31am Wed 30 Jan 13 [quote]What are you even talking about? There is only one person who continually makes these utterly non-sequitor leaps of imagination and thinks that any other people in a thread must be the same person because they post on it at similar times.[/quote] I am very sorry Tim. I have not accused anybody of posting under a different name. I merely pointed out that yourself and Richard respond with each other very well Not sure how or why my comment has been so misinterpreted but I do apologise if that's how it came across LocalBob80

3:39pm Wed 30 Jan 13

twasadawf says...

Big bunch of Girl's just get yer hand bag's out an sort it out
Big bunch of Girl's just get yer hand bag's out an sort it out twasadawf

4:10pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Bobfm , says...

Tim Newroman wrote:
Bobfm , wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Site moderator. How about reading what is said before deleting it and sending out warnings? What was offensive in what i said? Maybe you should ignore petty complaints and sort out the abuse that goes on here? The girl whose car got damaged insulted,and the young mum with a damp flat abused and insulted. Sort out the real problems with this site,not give into pathetic whines from fools.
Yes I agree. Interesting that my comment highlighting Oliver's alleged multiple trollings (summarised by '13 years of labour blah blah blah) got deleted too.

Thought you hated censorship?
'Muliple trollings'? Now then, who do we know who's practically written the bible as far as that's concerned? Must admit, I didn't know (until the above post) that you use the Bobfm , login AS WELL as all your others.

As for reporting posts - well, you can hardly whinge about it when it's something you yourself make an artform of.
Dear Oliver / Mr Blackwell / 20Eyes / I2CouldB and whoever else you are alleged to be today,

I have one login and one only.

I have never used the "report someone" option.

Try varying your rather obsessive-compulsive union-hating, labour-hating, talkswindon-hating, geoff reid-hating postings - it's just too easy to pick you out, my old china xx
[quote][p][bold]Tim Newroman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bobfm ,[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Site moderator. How about reading what is said before deleting it and sending out warnings? What was offensive in what i said? Maybe you should ignore petty complaints and sort out the abuse that goes on here? The girl whose car got damaged insulted,and the young mum with a damp flat abused and insulted. Sort out the real problems with this site,not give into pathetic whines from fools.[/p][/quote]Yes I agree. Interesting that my comment highlighting Oliver's alleged multiple trollings (summarised by '13 years of labour blah blah blah) got deleted too. Thought you hated censorship?[/p][/quote]'Muliple trollings'? Now then, who do we know who's practically written the bible as far as that's concerned? Must admit, I didn't know (until the above post) that you use the Bobfm , login AS WELL as all your others. [p] As for reporting posts - well, you can hardly whinge about it when it's something you yourself make an artform of.[/p][/quote]Dear Oliver / Mr Blackwell / 20Eyes / I2CouldB and whoever else you are alleged to be today, I have one login and one only. I have never used the "report someone" option. Try varying your rather obsessive-compulsive union-hating, labour-hating, talkswindon-hating, geoff reid-hating postings - it's just too easy to pick you out, my old china xx Bobfm ,

10:27pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Bobfm , says...

Oh and we can add Tim Newroman to your long list of alleged pseudonyms.

Given the comment was about Oliver, interesting that 'Tim' replied (in the usual giveaway style)
Oh and we can add Tim Newroman to your long list of alleged pseudonyms. Given the comment was about Oliver, interesting that 'Tim' replied (in the usual giveaway style) Bobfm ,

5:42pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Grimwald says...

Croft School - a true value for money build SCS style.

and oh is it finished yet?
Croft School - a true value for money build SCS style. and oh is it finished yet? Grimwald

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