‘It’s just a swindle’ - parishes claims cash is kept by council

Council leader Rod Bluh Council leader Rod Bluh

PARISH councils are accusing Swindon Council chiefs of swindling them out a share of a £9.9m Government grant intended to plug a cut in council tax income caused by benefits reforms.

Council tax benefit will be replaced with council tax support in April and one effect is homes receiving the new benefit towards the charge will no longer be included in council tax calculations, reducing the amount of council tax income.

To offset this impact without the need for councils to increase council tax or cut further expenditure, the Government gave extra cash to authorities which send out the council tax bills, and encouraged them to share some with parish councils.

Swindon Council gets £9.9m, of which £167,000 would have to be handed out to mitigate the impact on parishes.

But the administration has decided to keep it to itself, meaning parish councils either have to reduce expenditure and/or increase their precept on council tax, which is paid by parishioners.

A report to be presented to cabinet on February 6, when leaders will formally endorse the decision, shows the average tax income reduction across the parished areas in 2013/14 is 6.2 per cent, compared to 13.8 per cent across non-parished areas.

The Wiltshire Association of Local Councils has recommended to parish councils to increase their precepts to completely offset the reduction and to also write a letter of complaint tocouncil leader, Rod Bluh,their ward councillors and the Government.

The parishes worst hit are those with higher proportions of households receiving council tax benefit.

Stratton Parish Council has decided to raise its precept by 2.51 percent to £105.52 per year, for a Band D property.

Parish Council leader John Foley (Lab) said: “As the saying goes, ‘We was robbed.’ “Despite the last four years of a reduction in our precepts, we’re terribly disappointed because of the intransigence of this parsimonious council.”

Parish chief financial officer Paul Russell said: “If we had had this money we could have reduced the rate by about two per cent. I think it would have gone under a hundred pounds this time.”

Stanton Fitzwarren Parish Council is hit by 6.6 per cent.

Chairman Tom Charnock said: “To make any change to our services would be detrimental to the parish so we have said on balance we will increase the precept 6.6 per cent.

“As a parish council it seems incongruous the council are given money to give to us, they choose to keep it and we then have to put up the charges to our residents. They’re swindling us of the money.

“But these level of increases wouldn’t be necessary if the council handed out the money they should have given out for parish councils.

“This is what Wiltshire County Council has done. Wiltshire County Council were given £1.15m and they’ve handed it out to parish councils.”

The borough council’s cabinet member for strategic planning and sustainability, Coun Dale Heenan (Con, Covingham and Dorcan, areas), said the Govern-ment had not specified where the money should go, and the borough had to find £2m savings because of the council tax changes.

He said: “We’re always happy to talk with parish councils.”

Comments(19)

LocalBob80 says...
9:31am Fri 1 Feb 13

The borough council’s cabinet member for strategic planning and sustainability, Coun Dale Heenan (Con, Covingham and Dorcan, areas), said the Govern-ment had not specified where the money should go, and the borough had to find £2m savings because of the council tax changes.


It's been well documented that Dale Heenan would prefer to see the back of parish councils.

It's all very well that he thinks they are not economical but somewhat hypercritical from SBC

At least parish councils are in touch with the communities they represent

PaulD says...
10:19am Fri 1 Feb 13

Parish councils are an unnecessary extra layer of beaurocracy

The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man says...
10:24am Fri 1 Feb 13

LocalBob80 wrote:
The borough council’s cabinet member for strategic planning and sustainability, Coun Dale Heenan (Con, Covingham and Dorcan, areas), said the Govern-ment had not specified where the money should go, and the borough had to find £2m savings because of the council tax changes.


It's been well documented that Dale Heenan would prefer to see the back of parish councils.

It's all very well that he thinks they are not economical but somewhat hypercritical from SBC

At least parish councils are in touch with the communities they represent
"At least parish councils are in touch with
the communities they represent"

By that statement, it suggests you've never lived in Blunsdon parish but outside of the village then!

A.Baron-Cohen says...
11:07am Fri 1 Feb 13

PaulD wrote:
Parish councils are an unnecessary extra layer of beaurocracy
I could not agree more

Always Grumpy says...
12:04pm Fri 1 Feb 13

LocalBob80 wrote:
The borough council’s cabinet member for strategic planning and sustainability, Coun Dale Heenan (Con, Covingham and Dorcan, areas), said the Govern-ment had not specified where the money should go, and the borough had to find £2m savings because of the council tax changes.


It's been well documented that Dale Heenan would prefer to see the back of parish councils.

It's all very well that he thinks they are not economical but somewhat hypercritical from SBC

At least parish councils are in touch with the communities they represent
Not if you are in Blunsdon Parish. If you live outside of Blunsdon village, you get nothing and are completely ignored. I have been paying into Blunson Parish Council coffers for over 16 years and have yet to see anything for my contributions that actually benefits me. It does make me wonder where the money goes to!
The sooner this out of date layer of beaurocracy is removed, the better.

RichardR1 says...
12:38pm Fri 1 Feb 13

Always Grumpy you could always become a Parish Councillor and find out.

The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man says...
12:49pm Fri 1 Feb 13

RichardR1 wrote:
Always Grumpy you could always become a Parish Councillor and find out.
Odd statement. Why does he need to be a parish councillor to find out? The information is all freely available online!

Russell Holland says...
11:08pm Fri 1 Feb 13

Parish Councils can add value however like any public body they need to be accountable.

Stratton Parish Councillors were not elected following a ballot - because the number of people who put themselves forward was less than the vacancies they automatically became "elected".

The meeting discussing the draft budget was held in private and therefore the public did not have the chance to hear the reasons behind the decision that was made.

Stratton Parish are complaining that the Borough did not give them £75,000 however the following is copied from the Finance report

2.5 Current bank balances for all bank accounts are outlined below:
Bank Accounts
Current Account
£47,694.05
Imprest Account 2
£26,175.52
Account 3
£2,025.62
Petty Cash
£190.02
Investment A/C
£800,000.00
Reserve A/C
£626,183.35
Grange Petty Cash
£290.02
Change Floats
£2,040.00
Balances as at 31st December 2012
£1,504,598.58

I don't see how the Parish having that much money in reserves is entitled to demand that people across the whole of Swindon give them an addition £75k

LocalBob80 says...
10:24am Sat 2 Feb 13

Indeed.
Yet it's acceptable to waste £500,000 on a non existent wifi package

LocalBob80 says...
10:25am Sat 2 Feb 13

Any chance of showing us the accounts for that?

Russell Holland says...
7:05pm Sat 2 Feb 13

LocalBob - it is all on the Parish website - I copied and pasted the figures from the January 2013 finance report.

LocalBob80 says...
6:09am Sun 3 Feb 13

Indeed.
Yet it's acceptable to waste £500,000 on a non existent wifi package

Any chance of showing us the accounts for that?


LocalBob - it is all on the Parish website - I copied and pasted the figures from the January 2013 finance report.


Why on earth would the wifi accounts be on the parish accounts?

Russell Holland says...
9:22am Sun 3 Feb 13

Bob - sorry I thought you were asking me where I got the figures I posted from.

LocalBob80 says...
10:32am Sun 3 Feb 13

Okay.
Now you're up to speed, perhaps you might equally grace us with the SBC financial report that demonstrates how brilliantly our money has been invested in £500,000 wifi and a £15millon car park

LocalBob80 says...
12:25pm Sun 3 Feb 13

I'm guessing it will take councillor Holland somewhat longer to find that financial report

MrAngry says...
12:33pm Sun 3 Feb 13

The figures posted by Russell Holland make a good case for retaining parish councils.

If Stratton have reserves of £1,500,000 they are clearly better managed than they would be if SBC took control.

Empty Car Park says...
4:29pm Sun 3 Feb 13

MrAngry wrote:
The figures posted by Russell Holland make a good case for retaining parish councils.

If Stratton have reserves of £1,500,000 they are clearly better managed than they would be if SBC took control.
Good point.

and, judging by the reluctance to publish the equivalent SBC financial report, Councillor Holland also demonstrates that parish councillors are far more transparent and trustworthy

Tim Newroman says...
10:46am Mon 4 Feb 13

SBC and Parish Councils squabbling over this latest government handout is like bank robbers bickering about the share of their latest crime.

ALL of this money was OUR money at one point, until it was stolen from us under threat of duress.

"We was robbed", yes, Mr Foley, we certainly were, and continue to be.

Oliver_Donachie says...
7:57pm Mon 4 Feb 13

I would like an explanation why the parish decided to pass a special resolution preventing the press and public from attending the meeting in which they raised the precept. Why the secrecy?

With 1.5 Million of tax payers money in the bank it would have been useful for them to explain why they need to raise precept further on the stretched residents of the parish. I appreciate some may argue they show financial prudence in having reserves, but that still leaves the question, why the further rise?

Its a little bit hard to ask the questions when no one is allowed to attend...

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