Going head to head to save No 11 bus in Swindon

Coun Rochelle Russell is having  a meeting with Paul Jenkins, of Thamesdown Transport, to discuss changes to the No 11 bus route from the Orbital Centre

Coun Rochelle Russell is having a meeting with Paul Jenkins, of Thamesdown Transport, to discuss changes to the No 11 bus route from the Orbital Centre Buy this photo

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COUNCILLORS are set to meet the head of Thamesdown Transport to discuss changes to a bus route that has cut off many elderly residents from their community.

Gorse Hill councillors will meet Paul Jenkins tomorrow to discuss the changes to the number 11 bus route, and they are asking people to get in touch if they have been affected.

On January 6, revised routes and timetables were introduced in response to passenger usage, which included the Number 11 service being rerouted from the top of Pinehurst Road through Whitworth Road.

This has left the residents of Beech Avenue with no bus service from Monday to Saturday.

Coun Rochelle Russell (Lab, Gorse Hill and Pinehurst) said she wanted to go into the meeting armed with a broad picture of the situation.

She said: “The number 11 bus route has been altered for efficiency reasons.

“It has left quite a lot of people in the Beech Avenue adrift.

“There is a post office for people along Greenmeadow, which is the only post office they can get to, but now they can’t use the bus.

“They would have to get a bus to the Orbital and then back through the houses, just to go to the post office.

“I know there are other bus stops but for elderly residents it is difficult.

“I am hoping that at the meeting I will be able to explain to Mr Jenkins the sort of people who are affected, just to see if there is any way to re-route the service.”

Retired quality controller Paul Kumra, 73, who has lived on Beech Avenue for 45 years, has been a regular user of the Number 11. He has set up a petition he intends to give to Thamesdown Transport.

Thamesdown Transport managing director Paul Jenkins said: “The recent changes made to our services were as a result of thorough analysis of how our passengers used the services, with the aim of making them more efficient and therefore commercially viable.

“Service 11 was also affected by the loss of around £500,000 a year in financial support from the NHS for services to the Great Western Hospital.

“Where roads are no longer served, we have tried to ensure there are alternative routes available nearby.

“We are very sorry for any inconvenience caused.”

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8:04pm Tue 12 Feb 13

John Smith II says...

The headline to this story is totally misleading - in what respect does the number 11 bus need saving? This story appears to be more about a few individuals who have to walk marginally further to a bus stop, and we are talking very marginally further. The maximum distance from any point on Beech Avenue to an alternative stop is no more than 300m and that assumes living right in the middle of Beech Avenue directly at a bus stop. Given that few people live directly opposite a bus stop the actual distances will generally be less.

The bit about a post office is not really relevant. Greenmeadow is not the only post office in Swindon, indeed the number 11 (or number 15 from Cunningham Road) will take people to the town centre where there is a post office, or for those who don't want the walk in town it continues a couple of minutes up the hill to Old Town stopping pretty much outside a Post Office.

The change to this route to move it away from Beech Avenue has made a significant difference for the majority of users from Haydon Wick, who are no longer treated to an uncomfortable and indirect journey over every speed bump on Beech Avenue in order to get to and from the town centre.

Those complaining should be grateful that they still have such a high frequency service of accessible buses passing near to their homes, in many areas people are not so lucky.
The headline to this story is totally misleading - in what respect does the number 11 bus need saving? This story appears to be more about a few individuals who have to walk marginally further to a bus stop, and we are talking very marginally further. The maximum distance from any point on Beech Avenue to an alternative stop is no more than 300m and that assumes living right in the middle of Beech Avenue directly at a bus stop. Given that few people live directly opposite a bus stop the actual distances will generally be less. The bit about a post office is not really relevant. Greenmeadow is not the only post office in Swindon, indeed the number 11 (or number 15 from Cunningham Road) will take people to the town centre where there is a post office, or for those who don't want the walk in town it continues a couple of minutes up the hill to Old Town stopping pretty much outside a Post Office. The change to this route to move it away from Beech Avenue has made a significant difference for the majority of users from Haydon Wick, who are no longer treated to an uncomfortable and indirect journey over every speed bump on Beech Avenue in order to get to and from the town centre. Those complaining should be grateful that they still have such a high frequency service of accessible buses passing near to their homes, in many areas people are not so lucky. John Smith II
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9:45pm Tue 12 Feb 13

RICHARDPIKE says...

Keep the change well done.
Keep the change well done. RICHARDPIKE
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7:58am Wed 13 Feb 13

Phantom Poster says...

So what's wrong with the post office at the shops in Whitworth Road - directly parallel to Beach Avenue?
So what's wrong with the post office at the shops in Whitworth Road - directly parallel to Beach Avenue? Phantom Poster
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8:02am Wed 13 Feb 13

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

Wouldn't it be more useful if the story came with a map of the changes rather than an opportunistic councilor photo shot!


But that would mean the adver journo's doing some proper work to build a story....! Ho Hum.
Wouldn't it be more useful if the story came with a map of the changes rather than an opportunistic councilor photo shot! But that would mean the adver journo's doing some proper work to build a story....! Ho Hum. LordAshOfTheBrake
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8:21am Wed 13 Feb 13

madred says...

where is there a P.O. in Greenmeadow??
where is there a P.O. in Greenmeadow?? madred
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9:51am Wed 13 Feb 13

Morsey says...

Some people comment on a political stance (against a Labour Councillor trying to help those on her patch who have concerns) on every story ... many have little geographical knowledge nor concern for those less mobile than themselves! Very selfish society we live in these days.
Some people comment on a political stance (against a Labour Councillor trying to help those on her patch who have concerns) on every story ... many have little geographical knowledge nor concern for those less mobile than themselves! Very selfish society we live in these days. Morsey
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1:50pm Wed 13 Feb 13

David Renard says...

They're about two months to late. Cllr Barnett and I met with the MD in December and it was reported in the Adver. There aren't going to be any changes back to the old route any time soon.
They're about two months to late. Cllr Barnett and I met with the MD in December and it was reported in the Adver. There aren't going to be any changes back to the old route any time soon. David Renard
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1:50pm Wed 13 Feb 13

David Renard says...

Too late!
Too late! David Renard
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1:58pm Wed 13 Feb 13

house on the hill says...

"""Morsey says...
9:51am Wed 13 Feb 13

Some people comment on a political stance (against a Labour Councillor trying to help those on her patch who have concerns) on every story ... many have little geographical knowledge nor concern for those less mobile than themselves! Very selfish society we live in these days.”"""

Depends on what you mean by less mobile. How many people didnt look after themsleves growing up, eat and drank too much, smoked and did no excercise and basically got old before their time by their own actions or lack of them. It has been said that those who are active and look after themselves not only live an average of 8 years longer than their overweight unfit counterparts, but also have full mobility for an average of 16 years longer so I would dispute who are really the selfish ones expecting others to cater for their lifestlye choices! And no I know that doesnt apply to all but to an ever increasing number in our obese lazy society.
"""Morsey says... 9:51am Wed 13 Feb 13 Some people comment on a political stance (against a Labour Councillor trying to help those on her patch who have concerns) on every story ... many have little geographical knowledge nor concern for those less mobile than themselves! Very selfish society we live in these days.”""" Depends on what you mean by less mobile. How many people didnt look after themsleves growing up, eat and drank too much, smoked and did no excercise and basically got old before their time by their own actions or lack of them. It has been said that those who are active and look after themselves not only live an average of 8 years longer than their overweight unfit counterparts, but also have full mobility for an average of 16 years longer so I would dispute who are really the selfish ones expecting others to cater for their lifestlye choices! And no I know that doesnt apply to all but to an ever increasing number in our obese lazy society. house on the hill
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2:14pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Morsey says...

Ever said that well-known phrase to yourself? It goes something like ... "There, but for the grace of God, go I."

You see, the genes often determine ones physical ability ... ask the royals, they delve into every nook and cranny of a prospective wife for a royal son, you will never see a fat, unhealthy K.Middleton type, or a shorthouse, they all have to be six footers+ to look down on the minions! A bit like 'house on the hill' appears to see the less fortunate in society.

Though, I do admit you are not totally incorrect with your assessment of the human race, there is much bodily abuse, mainly in the younger age groups, and it's not just over-eating!
Ever said that well-known phrase to yourself? It goes something like ... "There, but for the grace of God, go I." You see, the genes often determine ones physical ability ... ask the royals, they delve into every nook and cranny of a prospective wife for a royal son, you will never see a fat, unhealthy K.Middleton type, or a shorthouse, they all have to be six footers+ to look down on the minions! A bit like 'house on the hill' appears to see the less fortunate in society. Though, I do admit you are not totally incorrect with your assessment of the human race, there is much bodily abuse, mainly in the younger age groups, and it's not just over-eating! Morsey
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8:09pm Wed 13 Feb 13

house on the hill says...

Morsey as I did say it doesn't apply to all and there are some who are far less fortunate which I why for me those who choose an unhealthy lifestyle are even worse, they actually could have had a long healthy life but wasted a good portion of it and then expect those more responsible to pick up the tab. Is it really unfair or unrealistic to expect people to be more responsible for their actions rather than expect the taxpayer to pay for their unhealthy choices?
Morsey as I did say it doesn't apply to all and there are some who are far less fortunate which I why for me those who choose an unhealthy lifestyle are even worse, they actually could have had a long healthy life but wasted a good portion of it and then expect those more responsible to pick up the tab. Is it really unfair or unrealistic to expect people to be more responsible for their actions rather than expect the taxpayer to pay for their unhealthy choices? house on the hill
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8:24pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Niwdlab says...

Nice to see the community sticking together and supporting the elderly.... Not!!! There is nothing to indicate that these people are smokers and live an unhealthy lifestyle... It is clear that the people posting negative comments on here are clearly not impacted by the changes.... It would be interesting to see what their comments would be if there was an issue that did impact them!!!!!
Nice to see the community sticking together and supporting the elderly.... Not!!! There is nothing to indicate that these people are smokers and live an unhealthy lifestyle... It is clear that the people posting negative comments on here are clearly not impacted by the changes.... It would be interesting to see what their comments would be if there was an issue that did impact them!!!!! Niwdlab
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9:24pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Fartim Poster says...

I agree.

Some people comment on a political stance on every story ...

many have little geographical knowledge nor concern for others

Very selfish society we live in these days.”"""
I agree. Some people comment on a political stance [bold] on every story ...[/bold] many have little geographical knowledge nor concern for others Very selfish society we live in these days.”""" Fartim Poster
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