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Victims of stroke hit by bus cost cutback (From Swindon Advertiser)
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Victims of stroke hit by bus cost cutback
9:40am Monday 11th March 2013 in News
From left, transport officer Ivor Hancock, treasurer Gerald Stephenson, transport officer John Messenger and vice chairman Jean Grange
MEMBERS of a club supporting stroke victims and their families fear it could close after Swindon Council voted to completely remove subsidies for the Dial A Ride minibus group hire service.
The Swindon Stroke Supp-ort Group, a charity with 86 registered members aged from their 50s to their 90s, hires two wheelchair-accessable buses every Thursday to take its less physically-able members to a meeting in Stratton, and also uses them for monthly day-trips and a yearly holiday.
Swindon Council has long subsidised this element of the Dial A Ride service through a contract, currently held by the voluntary group Swindon Dial A Ride, but this and other “auxiliary services” will not be included in a new contract starting on September 1, due to a decision to save £70,000 on community transport.
Whoever wins the tender will still have to provide the core services, which include a pre-booking, wheelchair accessible, door-to-door bus service around the borough. However more than 100 groups who hire the buses, most of whom support disabled people, will have to seek transport elsewhere.
Ivor Hancock, the stroke group’s transport liaison officer, said the club was self-sufficient, funded through donations and fundraising, but would struggle to pay the market rate for disabled transport to bring members to weekly meetings at the Methodist Church Hall, in Ermin Street.
He said: “How are we going to get people there who cannot get out of their wheelchair? There’s no one else that offers that facility. They’re house-bound and it’s the only sort of social life they have. It just doesn’t bear thinking about if it closed.
“I’ve had a stroke problem for 27 years myself and I just don’t see the logic of it. Times are hard, but why pick on the most disadvantaged? There’s going to be a lot of people without transport and without a club.”
The group hired the buses about once a month to go for day trips to attractions like the Cotswold Wildlife Park, and also uses them yearly to get to the coach pick-up point to go on holidays to places like the Isle of Wight. But they have not been able to book ahead this year due to uncertainty over the service.
Ivor, 67, a grandfather-of-six who is paralysed on the left side, said: “The stroke club has given me my life back. I don’t know what I would have done, because the facilities are just not around Swindon for stroke patients or stroke victims.”
Coun Keith Williams, cabinet member for leisure and strategic transport, said: “We have to protect the most vulnerable, the most needy, and basically providing subsidised minibus hire probably on balance now isn’t the sort of thing the council should be doing.
“Dial A Ride themselves can continue doing it obviously and there’s lots of other people out there that provide minibus hire for the groups that Dial A Ride provides bus services for as well.”
Comments(15)
Bobby Wright
says...
11:33am Mon 11 Mar 13
Should we tax payers being paying twice for providing the same facilities?
dc the 2nd
says...
12:09pm Mon 11 Mar 13
Morsey wrote:what has a bankers taxable bonus got to do with a local subsidised bus service in Swindon?
Now ... just take a moment to think about exactly what is happening in this town and across the county.
There is going to be no compassionate spending left on the erstwhile obligations lists as important funding to services for the disadvantaged are no longer thought of as within reason.
What a sad country we live in, cuts will eventually meet a conclusion, when there is nowt left to cut ... what is Plan B ... there ain't one as those who voted the Conservatives into power will come to regret the disolving of all that has been fought for over the years.
And ... bankers get bonuses of over one million pounds in a year (not salaries!) ... what a joke ... comes an uprising where the have nots go to the haves and take what is not ethically their's and redistribute the wealth that is?
Davey Gravey
says...
12:45pm Mon 11 Mar 13
ManWithCar
says...
12:51pm Mon 11 Mar 13
Bobby Wright wrote:Yes, because the government give out massive allowances for stroke victims obviously. They can afford "outings" on a daily basis, no matter how severe their stroke is.
Before we all start condemning the council. I have no doubt these stoke victims already get disability/mobility allowances. Why can’t they pay for their outings from this? After all that’s what mobility allowance is for. Should we tax payers being paying twice for providing the same facilities?
I have never seen a more moronical comment than this. You do not get given mobility allowance to buy scooters, cars or anything after a stroke because each one affects people differently! The government don't give out mobility scooters for free - the only thing you get is a (very uncomfortable) folding wheelchair! How dare you start huffing and puffing about helping people who have suffered a potentially devastating and life-changing event! Perhaps I should start complaining about my tax going to pay for the lazy b*stards who have nothing wrong with them whatsoever, except the inability to get off their backsides and find a job!
Perhaps you ought to put yourself in someone's shoes who HAS had a stroke, and experience the frustration at not being able to maybe walk or talk properly, do simple things like DIY around the house or even the simple mechanics of carrying on a conversation for more than 5 minutes. Not the mention the tears and heartache of the people who care for them and try to get them back to some semblance of who they were before the stroke.
Tim Newroman
says...
12:56pm Mon 11 Mar 13
It's unlikely you'd contribute even half that amount of tax during your entire working lifetime.
Regardless of that, where do you think the money is coming from to pay for all the spending you'd like to just continue, despite the nation being massively in debt and still borrowing at record levels?
It's no wonder the country is ruined if that's how you Labour types intend to try and continue things.
Nevermind, come 2015 Labour will be back in government and by 2020 the UK should be finished once and for all.
house on the hill
says...
1:45pm Mon 11 Mar 13
10:11am Mon 11 Mar 13
Now ... just take a moment to think about exactly what is happening in this town and across the county.
There is going to be no compassionate spending left on the erstwhile obligations lists as important funding to services for the disadvantaged are no longer thought of as within reason.
What a sad country we live in, cuts will eventually meet a conclusion, when there is nowt left to cut ... what is Plan B ... there ain't one as those who voted the Conservatives into power will come to regret the disolving of all that has been fought for over the years.
And ... bankers get bonuses of over one million pounds in a year (not salaries!) ... what a joke ... comes an uprising where the have nots go to the haves and take what is not ethically their's and redistribute the wealth that is?”""
Only one problem with your "uprising", the ones with the power and money seem to win, so probably not a good idea to take them on. This is usually the domain on the insanely jealous and their "you have more than me so give me some of yours" ideology. The extreme left is no better than the extreme right sadly and the balance between capitalism and communism is that neither of them work as has been proven time and time again around the world as we are not all equal. And just remeber how much tax money they contribute to our coffers. Would you rather they all moved abroad and paid tax and spent their money elsewhere which is what will happen if we push too hard?
Getting back on topic, this is always a hard decision to make, but I do agree that those who are disadvantaged through no fault of thier own should be helped, but the main problem with Govt both national and local is the waste through inneficiency and complacency that could and should be spent on those who pay tax rather than spent on out of date working practices and lazy inept staff who cost a fortune to employ and give really bad value for thier efforts.
Tim Newroman
says...
1:49pm Mon 11 Mar 13
If you want million pound bonuses, become a banker, or a top flight footballer, or a private surgeon, or start a business, or develop a decent product... but, no, that would involve some effort, skill and hard work. Let's just steal the money from people who did actually become successful.
Morsey
says...
5:07pm Mon 11 Mar 13
My statement regarding the obscene bankers' bonuses is there, and you know exactly where I am coming from, to indicate inequality and the possible 'final countdown' as what the Tory/ Libdem (read Tory anyway) government is leading the country into ... anarchy, you mark my words ... the only reason they leave the benefits classes alone and make them almost immune to what 'ordinary' people feel with the cuts and more cuts, is to keep them 'sweet'.
God help them (goverment) if the uprising takes them by surprise because they will have no answers when there is nothing left to cut other than benefits to the 'happy idle' in society. Can't put them all inside?
Incidentally, Labour do not have a clue either, but they have some feelings for the real unfortunates, and look to those who can bear the brunt of the country's limitations without picking on those who cannot defend themselves alone.
house on the hill
says...
8:18am Tue 12 Mar 13
Tim Newroman
says...
8:40am Tue 12 Mar 13
Yeah, OK. Hasn't happened yet, and there are c.22m taxpayers that should have done it years ago.
Left-wingers such as Morsey are always deluded about such things. Must be some kind of Marxist collective dream.
Going back to the bankers' bonuses, as I previously stated, quite clearly, out of a million pound bonus, the state automatically get £450,000 of it. Assuming the banker then spends most of their bonus in the UK, the state automatically gets around £110,000 of it.
So, that banker's bonus of a million quid ends up with almost 60% of it ending up being handed out to people on benefits.
By all means stop the bonuses, it'll be highly amusing.
Morsey
says...
9:54am Tue 12 Mar 13
Tim Newroman
says...
10:53am Tue 12 Mar 13
Morsey wrote:Some may do, the majority do not - it's become quite difficult to get round the rules and regulations, and even then there will be some element of tax to be paid.
Ever heard of offshore finance ... these people are not so daft ... give them some credit, they probably have money paid into non-existent foreign enterprise?
While it's tempting to play the 'easy' game of getting upset at bankers' bonuses, demanding they're scrapped is not only spiteful jealousy at play, it's also highly self-defeating.
I note that you don't appear to have mentioned the hundreds of thousands of self-employed people who do cash in hand work, misdeclare earnings, submit false invoices etc. Of course not, they're salt of the earth, aren't they?
Morsey
says...
2:18pm Tue 12 Mar 13
Whereas ... when a banking business totally fails, whether partly owned by you and I or not, it is obscene to pay such huge amounts out as 'bonuses' for failure, and even more so if tax payers have, and are suffering for Labour's bail outs, which lost them the vote to some degree.
Tim Newroman
says...
2:38pm Tue 12 Mar 13
Just goes to show how effective left-wing propaganda is. Amazing.
As for your second paragraph, bankers who receive bonuses do so because they've helped create the money from which those bonuses are paid. If the money's not there, the bonus can't be paid. So, if bankers can manage to get billions from the government and then use that to pay themselves, job done. Who can blame them for simply taking money that's been thrown at them?
Still, I'm sure people will quickly forget about destroying bonus payments once they receive their RBS windfall payouts. That will, of course, 'be different'. How convenient.
Morsey says...
10:11am Mon 11 Mar 13
There is going to be no compassionate spending left on the erstwhile obligations lists as important funding to services for the disadvantaged are no longer thought of as within reason.
What a sad country we live in, cuts will eventually meet a conclusion, when there is nowt left to cut ... what is Plan B ... there ain't one as those who voted the Conservatives into power will come to regret the disolving of all that has been fought for over the years.
And ... bankers get bonuses of over one million pounds in a year (not salaries!) ... what a joke ... comes an uprising where the have nots go to the haves and take what is not ethically their's and redistribute the wealth that is?