Road works wasted money, says cabbie

Swindon Advertiser: The roundabout on Cirencester Way, near Gorse Hill The roundabout on Cirencester Way, near Gorse Hill

TAXI driver Nick Chambers has taken issue with the council for spending £123,000 on a roundabout he says was not needed.

Work to fix kerbs at the Chapel Street/Gipsy Lane roundabout and the length of the A4311 Cirencester Way from the Transfer Bridges Roundabout took place at the beginning of November.

A Freedom of Information request has revealed the authority has spent about £123,000 over the last three years on work to the roundabout, which Nick, of Stratton, said was not needed in the first place.

The 46-year-old said the roundabout was enlarged around the beginning of the year and then workmen came to fix the kerbs. This, he says, disrupted his trips around Swindon with customers.

He said the council had wasted large sums of taxpayers’ money on the work.

“They are talking all the time about having to make so many cuts and then they go and spend so much money on a roundabout which was fine in the first place,” said Nick.

“There are loads of other things the council could have spent that money on – social care, the NHS, the list is endless.

“Putting new kerbs on the roundabout was not worth the money.

“It’s caused loads of disruption, and with the recent economic downturn it surprises me that the council was allowed to go ahead with it. I think it’s disgusting they can squander the money in this sort of way.

“I think when you add in the money for the resurfacing we would be talking about millions of pounds, and this is my money and the people of Swindon’s money they are wasting.”

Councillor Keith Williams, cabinet member for highways strategic transport and leisure, said the work was something which had been planned and largely paid for some years ago. This was something that was planned by my predecessor,” said Coun Williams, who represents the Shaw ward.

“Given the current economic position it is possibly not work we would have undertaken but it was planned to improve highways safety. These schemes take time to come through and I think the vast majority of the cost was committed a while ago.”

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7:40am Tue 17 Dec 13

Always Grumpy says...

I wouldn't normally agree with a taxi driver, but Nick Chambers is spot on here. What a complete and utter waste of money.
I wouldn't normally agree with a taxi driver, but Nick Chambers is spot on here. What a complete and utter waste of money. Always Grumpy

8:15am Tue 17 Dec 13

speaker2 says...

Yep agree
This council is nothing...It is run by some of the criminals of Wiltshire, who waste money on anything and not spend it where it is needed
OK go and repair roads but bloody do the ones that need it and stop wasting our money
Yep agree This council is nothing...It is run by some of the criminals of Wiltshire, who waste money on anything and not spend it where it is needed OK go and repair roads but bloody do the ones that need it and stop wasting our money speaker2

8:33am Tue 17 Dec 13

fairly says...

I totally agree. The work that has been under taken on this roundabout over many months, during the summer and in November, has caused tremendous traffic disruption and frustration to motorists. The cost cannot be defended when the improvement to the road system is so negligible. As a local resident I also feel confounded by the provision of what appears to be a pavement around the roundabout , when there is no provision of a walkway from Lidl and Wickes to the briges.Perhaps the councillor would like to try the walk down the muddy verge from Gypsy Lane to the bridges. The money could have been better spent.
I totally agree. The work that has been under taken on this roundabout over many months, during the summer and in November, has caused tremendous traffic disruption and frustration to motorists. The cost cannot be defended when the improvement to the road system is so negligible. As a local resident I also feel confounded by the provision of what appears to be a pavement around the roundabout , when there is no provision of a walkway from Lidl and Wickes to the briges.Perhaps the councillor would like to try the walk down the muddy verge from Gypsy Lane to the bridges. The money could have been better spent. fairly

8:39am Tue 17 Dec 13

A.Baron-Cohen says...

This roundabout was accidents prone and since the new road surface & markings and pedestrian crossing were put in, this roundabout is now a lot safer and traffic is also lot more fluid than it ever was.
This roundabout was accidents prone and since the new road surface & markings and pedestrian crossing were put in, this roundabout is now a lot safer and traffic is also lot more fluid than it ever was. A.Baron-Cohen

9:28am Tue 17 Dec 13

cjones03824 says...

they first spent money to enlarge the roundabout and then further funds to reduce this again once they realised it was far to big and did not allow for free flowing safe traffic. it is a joke and took a long time and wasted a lot of money.
they first spent money to enlarge the roundabout and then further funds to reduce this again once they realised it was far to big and did not allow for free flowing safe traffic. it is a joke and took a long time and wasted a lot of money. cjones03824

10:25am Tue 17 Dec 13

Tyran66 says...

Where is Russell Holland now? I can add this to my list of white elephants! 1.9% council tax rise anyone?
Where is Russell Holland now? I can add this to my list of white elephants! 1.9% council tax rise anyone? Tyran66

9:52pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Ellofolks says...

Swindon council spending money on going round in circles. Priceless.
Swindon council spending money on going round in circles. Priceless. Ellofolks

10:36pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Jeremy Hilary Boob says...

A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
This roundabout was accidents prone and since the new road surface & markings and pedestrian crossing were put in, this roundabout is now a lot safer and traffic is also lot more fluid than it ever was.
Not really.

If you're coming along Chapel Street, many people act as if there are two lanes, but there's only one marked. So you can be in the correct lane (i.e. the only one) and people ignore/don't know the layout and you end up having to give way to some who's selfish or just ignorant of the markings.

Coming in the other direction, even the muppets SBC employ might have realised that you can turn right from Gypsy Lane into Cirencester Way, yet the only markings on the road are the two lanes: left and straight on. Admittedly, it's obvious that you'd get into the right hand lane to turn right but if you don't know the layout you might think there's no right turn and the sign is missing, so you'd end up going through Gorse Hill to get onto Cricklade Road (and Cirencester Way is supposed to be a relief road!)

Instead of simply repeating this story from two weeks ago, perhaps the Adver could do a bit of journalism and put these points to the council, as well as pointing out that just because something was "largely funded" (how vague is that) doesn't excuse the fact that they did the work twice - that's got to be more expensive than actually getting it right in the first place!
[quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: This roundabout was accidents prone and since the new road surface & markings and pedestrian crossing were put in, this roundabout is now a lot safer and traffic is also lot more fluid than it ever was.[/p][/quote]Not really. If you're coming along Chapel Street, many people act as if there are two lanes, but there's only one marked. So you can be in the correct lane (i.e. the only one) and people ignore/don't know the layout and you end up having to give way to some who's selfish or just ignorant of the markings. Coming in the other direction, even the muppets SBC employ might have realised that you can turn right from Gypsy Lane into Cirencester Way, yet the only markings on the road are the two lanes: left and straight on. Admittedly, it's obvious that you'd get into the right hand lane to turn right but if you don't know the layout you might think there's no right turn and the sign is missing, so you'd end up going through Gorse Hill to get onto Cricklade Road (and Cirencester Way is supposed to be a relief road!) Instead of simply repeating this story from two weeks ago, perhaps the Adver could do a bit of journalism and put these points to the council, as well as pointing out that just because something was "largely funded" (how vague is that) doesn't excuse the fact that they did the work twice - that's got to be more expensive than actually getting it right in the first place! Jeremy Hilary Boob

10:46pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Always Grumpy says...

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
This roundabout was accidents prone and since the new road surface & markings and pedestrian crossing were put in, this roundabout is now a lot safer and traffic is also lot more fluid than it ever was.
Not really.

If you're coming along Chapel Street, many people act as if there are two lanes, but there's only one marked. So you can be in the correct lane (i.e. the only one) and people ignore/don't know the layout and you end up having to give way to some who's selfish or just ignorant of the markings.

Coming in the other direction, even the muppets SBC employ might have realised that you can turn right from Gypsy Lane into Cirencester Way, yet the only markings on the road are the two lanes: left and straight on. Admittedly, it's obvious that you'd get into the right hand lane to turn right but if you don't know the layout you might think there's no right turn and the sign is missing, so you'd end up going through Gorse Hill to get onto Cricklade Road (and Cirencester Way is supposed to be a relief road!)

Instead of simply repeating this story from two weeks ago, perhaps the Adver could do a bit of journalism and put these points to the council, as well as pointing out that just because something was "largely funded" (how vague is that) doesn't excuse the fact that they did the work twice - that's got to be more expensive than actually getting it right in the first place!
The so called 'reporter' ,Emma Lidiard, do a bit of journalism, you'll be lucky. Her standard of reporting must be about the worst there is in this paper.
[quote][p][bold]Jeremy Hilary Boob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: This roundabout was accidents prone and since the new road surface & markings and pedestrian crossing were put in, this roundabout is now a lot safer and traffic is also lot more fluid than it ever was.[/p][/quote]Not really. If you're coming along Chapel Street, many people act as if there are two lanes, but there's only one marked. So you can be in the correct lane (i.e. the only one) and people ignore/don't know the layout and you end up having to give way to some who's selfish or just ignorant of the markings. Coming in the other direction, even the muppets SBC employ might have realised that you can turn right from Gypsy Lane into Cirencester Way, yet the only markings on the road are the two lanes: left and straight on. Admittedly, it's obvious that you'd get into the right hand lane to turn right but if you don't know the layout you might think there's no right turn and the sign is missing, so you'd end up going through Gorse Hill to get onto Cricklade Road (and Cirencester Way is supposed to be a relief road!) Instead of simply repeating this story from two weeks ago, perhaps the Adver could do a bit of journalism and put these points to the council, as well as pointing out that just because something was "largely funded" (how vague is that) doesn't excuse the fact that they did the work twice - that's got to be more expensive than actually getting it right in the first place![/p][/quote]The so called 'reporter' ,Emma Lidiard, do a bit of journalism, you'll be lucky. Her standard of reporting must be about the worst there is in this paper. Always Grumpy

7:31am Wed 18 Dec 13

GalaxyMan says...

This roundabout did need enlarging because people would race around it through the red markings not giving a monkeys that they are stopping people from getting out safely and fairly.
It is unfortunate that this behaviour means the Council have to blow money when perhaps, with a bit of thoughtful driving, it could have been avoided.
But then the Great British public all too often are only concerned with themselves once behind the wheel.
This roundabout did need enlarging because people would race around it through the red markings not giving a monkeys that they are stopping people from getting out safely and fairly. It is unfortunate that this behaviour means the Council have to blow money when perhaps, with a bit of thoughtful driving, it could have been avoided. But then the Great British public all too often are only concerned with themselves once behind the wheel. GalaxyMan

11:54am Wed 18 Dec 13

Miss Jools says...

A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
This roundabout was accidents prone and since the new road surface & markings and pedestrian crossing were put in, this roundabout is now a lot safer and traffic is also lot more fluid than it ever was.
What a load of bull, this roundabout is not much different to what it was previously and the safety aspect has not been altered a jot, if anything as a car driver in Swindon who uses this round about at least 4 times a day, it's worse. But then there's the problem with Swindon's drivers, most of them are *rs*h*les and wouldn't know lane discipline if it jumped up in front of them and slapped them around the face with a wet fish. I've been at the end of Chapel Street trying to get across into Gypsy Lane and I've ended up with a car on my left and a car on my right in a 'single lane' road. The pedestrian crossings were a stoopid idea as now the traffic gets stopped and backed up and do the drivers of Swindon leave a gap so that you can pull through whilst they are effectively parked up waiting for the ped lights to change? No they don't, they blithely sit in front of you staring ahead, avoiding eye contact because they would be able to see the message on my face e.g. what a tw*t.
[quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: This roundabout was accidents prone and since the new road surface & markings and pedestrian crossing were put in, this roundabout is now a lot safer and traffic is also lot more fluid than it ever was.[/p][/quote]What a load of bull, this roundabout is not much different to what it was previously and the safety aspect has not been altered a jot, if anything as a car driver in Swindon who uses this round about at least 4 times a day, it's worse. But then there's the problem with Swindon's drivers, most of them are *rs*h*les and wouldn't know lane discipline if it jumped up in front of them and slapped them around the face with a wet fish. I've been at the end of Chapel Street trying to get across into Gypsy Lane and I've ended up with a car on my left and a car on my right in a 'single lane' road. The pedestrian crossings were a stoopid idea as now the traffic gets stopped and backed up and do the drivers of Swindon leave a gap so that you can pull through whilst they are effectively parked up waiting for the ped lights to change? No they don't, they blithely sit in front of you staring ahead, avoiding eye contact because they would be able to see the message on my face e.g. what a tw*t. Miss Jools

12:36pm Sun 22 Dec 13

MrAngry says...

Jeremy Hilary Boob wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
This roundabout was accidents prone and since the new road surface & markings and pedestrian crossing were put in, this roundabout is now a lot safer and traffic is also lot more fluid than it ever was.
Not really.

If you're coming along Chapel Street, many people act as if there are two lanes, but there's only one marked. So you can be in the correct lane (i.e. the only one) and people ignore/don't know the layout and you end up having to give way to some who's selfish or just ignorant of the markings.

Coming in the other direction, even the muppets SBC employ might have realised that you can turn right from Gypsy Lane into Cirencester Way, yet the only markings on the road are the two lanes: left and straight on. Admittedly, it's obvious that you'd get into the right hand lane to turn right but if you don't know the layout you might think there's no right turn and the sign is missing, so you'd end up going through Gorse Hill to get onto Cricklade Road (and Cirencester Way is supposed to be a relief road!)

Instead of simply repeating this story from two weeks ago, perhaps the Adver could do a bit of journalism and put these points to the council, as well as pointing out that just because something was "largely funded" (how vague is that) doesn't excuse the fact that they did the work twice - that's got to be more expensive than actually getting it right in the first place!
A traffic engineer at the council told me they no longer use turn right arrows on roundabouts. Foreign drivers get confused by them and think they can go the wrong way round the roundabout. Ridiculous but true !!
[quote][p][bold]Jeremy Hilary Boob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: This roundabout was accidents prone and since the new road surface & markings and pedestrian crossing were put in, this roundabout is now a lot safer and traffic is also lot more fluid than it ever was.[/p][/quote]Not really. If you're coming along Chapel Street, many people act as if there are two lanes, but there's only one marked. So you can be in the correct lane (i.e. the only one) and people ignore/don't know the layout and you end up having to give way to some who's selfish or just ignorant of the markings. Coming in the other direction, even the muppets SBC employ might have realised that you can turn right from Gypsy Lane into Cirencester Way, yet the only markings on the road are the two lanes: left and straight on. Admittedly, it's obvious that you'd get into the right hand lane to turn right but if you don't know the layout you might think there's no right turn and the sign is missing, so you'd end up going through Gorse Hill to get onto Cricklade Road (and Cirencester Way is supposed to be a relief road!) Instead of simply repeating this story from two weeks ago, perhaps the Adver could do a bit of journalism and put these points to the council, as well as pointing out that just because something was "largely funded" (how vague is that) doesn't excuse the fact that they did the work twice - that's got to be more expensive than actually getting it right in the first place![/p][/quote]A traffic engineer at the council told me they no longer use turn right arrows on roundabouts. Foreign drivers get confused by them and think they can go the wrong way round the roundabout. Ridiculous but true !! MrAngry

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