New food store creates 70 jobs

RETAIL giant Marks & Spencer have come bearing a gift of 70 new jobs as they revealed plans for the opening of their new Swindon store early next month.

From sales assistants to café staff, local people will feel the benefit of the new M&S Simply Food store at Mannington Retail Park, set to open to shoppers on Wednesday, January 15.

Store manager Chris Hughes and his staff will welcome customers into the store at 10am – giving them their first glimpse of the brand new M&S Simply Food.

It comes after John Lewis established itself in the town with an At Home store in 2010.

Next at Home followed last December to rejuvenate the once-run down retail park, while a Waitrose is nearing completion in nearby Wichelstowe.

Shoppers visiting M&S will be treated to a a complimentary glass of prosecco on opening day, as well as the chance to win a share of £1,000 in M&S Gift Cards with Jack FM between noon and 2pm.

The 9,000 sq ft store has created 70 new jobs and will offer almost 4,500 quality food and drink lines, including the Cook With range, the Count on Us and Fuller Longer healthy eating ranges and an extensive selection of beers, wines, champagnes and spirits.

The popular M&S ‘Dine In’ offers will feature in store and there will be a selection of flowers, cards and gift wrap available too.

Shoppers will be able to relax in the M&S Café, which will provide seating for 48, free WiFi access and Fairtrade tea and coffee, hot food and snacks.

An in-store Bakery will also offer a range of speciality breads, pastries and cakes, freshly baked on site each day.

In addition, the store will offer the popular Shop Your Way service, giving customers the choice of ordering from the M&S catalogue in-store or online, with the added benefit of free next day in-store delivery and collection.

Chris said: “We are delighted to be opening a Simply Food store at Mannington Retail Park, which will provide customers with a great range of quality food and drink, as well as a bakery and café.

“As the countdown to opening begins, we hope that people can join us on January 15 to help celebrate launch day, and see the new store for themselves.”

Speaking when the store was announced, Paul Briggs, the chief executive of the Thames Valley Chamber of Commerce group, which includes Swindon, Oxford and Reading, said: “Too many times we hear of people losing their jobs just before Christmas and the bad news that brings with it. But this is really great news.

“I am pleased that Marks & Spencer have shown how much confidence they have in Swindon and I am sure that things are gradually getting back to normal on the economic front.”

To view available jobs at M&S visit http://corporate.marksandspencer. com.

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9:49am Sat 28 Dec 13

Arrowfield says...

Anyone else think there is too many supermarkets in Swindon. New M&S, new Waitrose, Aldis everywhere, new Morrisons in Eldene- only a certain amount of food we can buy and eat!
Anyone else think there is too many supermarkets in Swindon. New M&S, new Waitrose, Aldis everywhere, new Morrisons in Eldene- only a certain amount of food we can buy and eat! Arrowfield

11:47am Sat 28 Dec 13

molly60 says...

Arrowfield wrote:
Anyone else think there is too many supermarkets in Swindon. New M&S, new Waitrose, Aldis everywhere, new Morrisons in Eldene- only a certain amount of food we can buy and eat!
Where else are the East Europeans going to work as the Brits wont get out of bed for the wages being paid in these places. Somebody has to provide the Tax money so the wasters can enjoy their life on benefits, and don't start on paltry and low wages ,they survive and manage to contribute to the economy and send money back to their home countries.
[quote][p][bold]Arrowfield[/bold] wrote: Anyone else think there is too many supermarkets in Swindon. New M&S, new Waitrose, Aldis everywhere, new Morrisons in Eldene- only a certain amount of food we can buy and eat![/p][/quote]Where else are the East Europeans going to work as the Brits wont get out of bed for the wages being paid in these places. Somebody has to provide the Tax money so the wasters can enjoy their life on benefits, and don't start on paltry and low wages ,they survive and manage to contribute to the economy and send money back to their home countries. molly60

12:02pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Melgee says...

Too many Supermarkets? They have not started yet! A new Tesco's is to be built at Marsh Farm, RWB plus even more shoe-box new housing.
More supermarkets are planned for the Swindon and Greater Swindon area.
One Supermarket builds and the rest of 'em want to follow !
Too many Supermarkets? They have not started yet! A new Tesco's is to be built at Marsh Farm, RWB plus even more shoe-box new housing. More supermarkets are planned for the Swindon and Greater Swindon area. One Supermarket builds and the rest of 'em want to follow ! Melgee

12:22pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Davey Gravey says...

molly60 wrote:
Arrowfield wrote:
Anyone else think there is too many supermarkets in Swindon. New M&S, new Waitrose, Aldis everywhere, new Morrisons in Eldene- only a certain amount of food we can buy and eat!
Where else are the East Europeans going to work as the Brits wont get out of bed for the wages being paid in these places. Somebody has to provide the Tax money so the wasters can enjoy their life on benefits, and don't start on paltry and low wages ,they survive and manage to contribute to the economy and send money back to their home countries.
There are huge numbers of applications for supermarket jobs. The vast majority of staff are British too. Basically your rant is a load of stereotypical ****. People are desperate for full time work as so many are in part time work struggling to make ends meet(something the Tory party is quiet about)

It's like the Daily Mail comments on this site nowadays.Absolute drivel gets trotted out.
[quote][p][bold]molly60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrowfield[/bold] wrote: Anyone else think there is too many supermarkets in Swindon. New M&S, new Waitrose, Aldis everywhere, new Morrisons in Eldene- only a certain amount of food we can buy and eat![/p][/quote]Where else are the East Europeans going to work as the Brits wont get out of bed for the wages being paid in these places. Somebody has to provide the Tax money so the wasters can enjoy their life on benefits, and don't start on paltry and low wages ,they survive and manage to contribute to the economy and send money back to their home countries.[/p][/quote]There are huge numbers of applications for supermarket jobs. The vast majority of staff are British too. Basically your rant is a load of stereotypical ****. People are desperate for full time work as so many are in part time work struggling to make ends meet(something the Tory party is quiet about) It's like the Daily Mail comments on this site nowadays.Absolute drivel gets trotted out. Davey Gravey

12:51pm Sat 28 Dec 13

tucker81 says...

It's a shop not a store
It's a shop not a store tucker81

2:23pm Sat 28 Dec 13

lss11051981 says...

It 'stores' food though doesn't it?
It 'stores' food though doesn't it? lss11051981

2:51pm Sat 28 Dec 13

John Trollston says...

molly60 wrote:
Arrowfield wrote:
Anyone else think there is too many supermarkets in Swindon. New M&S, new Waitrose, Aldis everywhere, new Morrisons in Eldene- only a certain amount of food we can buy and eat!
Where else are the East Europeans going to work as the Brits wont get out of bed for the wages being paid in these places. Somebody has to provide the Tax money so the wasters can enjoy their life on benefits, and don't start on paltry and low wages ,they survive and manage to contribute to the economy and send money back to their home countries.
You are a disgrace I would be surprised if you are were born in the UK.

Net migration quintupled from 50,000 in 1997 to 250,000 in 2010. Nearly 4 million immigrants have arrived since 1997. Net migration fell to 176,000 in the year to December 2012 as government policies took effect.

We must build a new home every seven minutes for new migrants.

England is already, with the Netherlands, the most crowded country in Europe, excluding island and city states.

Large scale immigration by low paid workers from the EU reduces the wages of low skilled British workers, adds nothing to GDP per head but adds considerably to pressure on public services. In-work benefits are a huge incentive and must be reformed.
[quote][p][bold]molly60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrowfield[/bold] wrote: Anyone else think there is too many supermarkets in Swindon. New M&S, new Waitrose, Aldis everywhere, new Morrisons in Eldene- only a certain amount of food we can buy and eat![/p][/quote]Where else are the East Europeans going to work as the Brits wont get out of bed for the wages being paid in these places. Somebody has to provide the Tax money so the wasters can enjoy their life on benefits, and don't start on paltry and low wages ,they survive and manage to contribute to the economy and send money back to their home countries.[/p][/quote]You are a disgrace I would be surprised if you are were born in the UK. Net migration quintupled from 50,000 in 1997 to 250,000 in 2010. Nearly 4 million immigrants have arrived since 1997. Net migration fell to 176,000 in the year to December 2012 as government policies took effect. We must build a new home every seven minutes for new migrants. England is already, with the Netherlands, the most crowded country in Europe, excluding island and city states. Large scale immigration by low paid workers from the EU reduces the wages of low skilled British workers, adds nothing to GDP per head but adds considerably to pressure on public services. In-work benefits are a huge incentive and must be reformed. John Trollston

4:30pm Sat 28 Dec 13

salt and vinegar says...

Most british people have still not worked out why wages have gone down and are unlikely to rise in the near future, IMMIGRATION!! OVER SUPPLY OF LABOUR, WAKE UP, its not going to get better any time soon, (Bulgaria and all that)!!!
Most british people have still not worked out why wages have gone down and are unlikely to rise in the near future, IMMIGRATION!! OVER SUPPLY OF LABOUR, WAKE UP, its not going to get better any time soon, (Bulgaria and all that)!!! salt and vinegar

4:35pm Sat 28 Dec 13

house on the hill says...

So a quality company opens a new store and creates 70 jobs and they still moan! Seriously??

more choice is always a good thing, if you dont like it then dont go there, easy.
So a quality company opens a new store and creates 70 jobs and they still moan! Seriously?? more choice is always a good thing, if you dont like it then dont go there, easy. house on the hill

4:56pm Sat 28 Dec 13

purplerose says...

I think everyone should stop moaning and just shop where you want to shop it,s all supply and demand there are places where there are loads of supermarkets then there are places where there are none. If you don't like it don't use it simple
I think everyone should stop moaning and just shop where you want to shop it,s all supply and demand there are places where there are loads of supermarkets then there are places where there are none. If you don't like it don't use it simple purplerose

5:45pm Sat 28 Dec 13

roberto5 says...

Shouldn't these stores be town centre based?, some major injection is needed there...
Shouldn't these stores be town centre based?, some major injection is needed there... roberto5

6:50pm Sat 28 Dec 13

umpcah says...

roberto5 wrote:
Shouldn't these stores be town centre based?, some major injection is needed there...
Town centred stores need to have ample parking areas nearby. No chance !
[quote][p][bold]roberto5[/bold] wrote: Shouldn't these stores be town centre based?, some major injection is needed there...[/p][/quote]Town centred stores need to have ample parking areas nearby. No chance ! umpcah

6:50pm Sat 28 Dec 13

umpcah says...

roberto5 wrote:
Shouldn't these stores be town centre based?, some major injection is needed there...
Town centred stores need to have ample parking areas nearby. No chance !
[quote][p][bold]roberto5[/bold] wrote: Shouldn't these stores be town centre based?, some major injection is needed there...[/p][/quote]Town centred stores need to have ample parking areas nearby. No chance ! umpcah

9:59pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Ellofolks says...

salt and vinegar wrote:
Most british people have still not worked out why wages have gone down and are unlikely to rise in the near future, IMMIGRATION!! OVER SUPPLY OF LABOUR, WAKE UP, its not going to get better any time soon, (Bulgaria and all that)!!!
And you thought you'd never use your Economics Degree :)
[quote][p][bold]salt and vinegar[/bold] wrote: Most british people have still not worked out why wages have gone down and are unlikely to rise in the near future, IMMIGRATION!! OVER SUPPLY OF LABOUR, WAKE UP, its not going to get better any time soon, (Bulgaria and all that)!!![/p][/quote]And you thought you'd never use your Economics Degree :) Ellofolks

10:13pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Ellofolks says...

John Trollston wrote:
molly60 wrote:
Arrowfield wrote:
Anyone else think there is too many supermarkets in Swindon. New M&S, new Waitrose, Aldis everywhere, new Morrisons in Eldene- only a certain amount of food we can buy and eat!
Where else are the East Europeans going to work as the Brits wont get out of bed for the wages being paid in these places. Somebody has to provide the Tax money so the wasters can enjoy their life on benefits, and don't start on paltry and low wages ,they survive and manage to contribute to the economy and send money back to their home countries.
You are a disgrace I would be surprised if you are were born in the UK.

Net migration quintupled from 50,000 in 1997 to 250,000 in 2010. Nearly 4 million immigrants have arrived since 1997. Net migration fell to 176,000 in the year to December 2012 as government policies took effect.

We must build a new home every seven minutes for new migrants.

England is already, with the Netherlands, the most crowded country in Europe, excluding island and city states.

Large scale immigration by low paid workers from the EU reduces the wages of low skilled British workers, adds nothing to GDP per head but adds considerably to pressure on public services. In-work benefits are a huge incentive and must be reformed.
M&S the downfall of the British Empire! I blame immigration for how busy the car park is too. It will no doubt be manicing retail park when the Romanians arrive. The Qs in John Lewis were crazy on Christmas Eve. Dam those immigrants.
Still at least they do a great deal on meal for 2. M&S that is :)
[quote][p][bold]John Trollston[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]molly60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrowfield[/bold] wrote: Anyone else think there is too many supermarkets in Swindon. New M&S, new Waitrose, Aldis everywhere, new Morrisons in Eldene- only a certain amount of food we can buy and eat![/p][/quote]Where else are the East Europeans going to work as the Brits wont get out of bed for the wages being paid in these places. Somebody has to provide the Tax money so the wasters can enjoy their life on benefits, and don't start on paltry and low wages ,they survive and manage to contribute to the economy and send money back to their home countries.[/p][/quote]You are a disgrace I would be surprised if you are were born in the UK. Net migration quintupled from 50,000 in 1997 to 250,000 in 2010. Nearly 4 million immigrants have arrived since 1997. Net migration fell to 176,000 in the year to December 2012 as government policies took effect. We must build a new home every seven minutes for new migrants. England is already, with the Netherlands, the most crowded country in Europe, excluding island and city states. Large scale immigration by low paid workers from the EU reduces the wages of low skilled British workers, adds nothing to GDP per head but adds considerably to pressure on public services. In-work benefits are a huge incentive and must be reformed.[/p][/quote]M&S the downfall of the British Empire! I blame immigration for how busy the car park is too. It will no doubt be manicing retail park when the Romanians arrive. The Qs in John Lewis were crazy on Christmas Eve. Dam those immigrants. Still at least they do a great deal on meal for 2. M&S that is :) Ellofolks

2:49am Sun 29 Dec 13

molly60 says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
molly60 wrote:
Arrowfield wrote:
Anyone else think there is too many supermarkets in Swindon. New M&S, new Waitrose, Aldis everywhere, new Morrisons in Eldene- only a certain amount of food we can buy and eat!
Where else are the East Europeans going to work as the Brits wont get out of bed for the wages being paid in these places. Somebody has to provide the Tax money so the wasters can enjoy their life on benefits, and don't start on paltry and low wages ,they survive and manage to contribute to the economy and send money back to their home countries.
There are huge numbers of applications for supermarket jobs. The vast majority of staff are British too. Basically your rant is a load of stereotypical ****. People are desperate for full time work as so many are in part time work struggling to make ends meet(something the Tory party is quiet about)

It's like the Daily Mail comments on this site nowadays.Absolute drivel gets trotted out.
Well all those part timers there are 70 M&S jobs going, and people like you really make me smile ,I know many East Europeans who came to Swindon and they all got full time jobs, and they don't read the Morning Star or the Daily Mirror and they certainly don't follow the politics of envy, and the majority being catholic know that God helps those who help themselves.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]molly60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrowfield[/bold] wrote: Anyone else think there is too many supermarkets in Swindon. New M&S, new Waitrose, Aldis everywhere, new Morrisons in Eldene- only a certain amount of food we can buy and eat![/p][/quote]Where else are the East Europeans going to work as the Brits wont get out of bed for the wages being paid in these places. Somebody has to provide the Tax money so the wasters can enjoy their life on benefits, and don't start on paltry and low wages ,they survive and manage to contribute to the economy and send money back to their home countries.[/p][/quote]There are huge numbers of applications for supermarket jobs. The vast majority of staff are British too. Basically your rant is a load of stereotypical ****. People are desperate for full time work as so many are in part time work struggling to make ends meet(something the Tory party is quiet about) It's like the Daily Mail comments on this site nowadays.Absolute drivel gets trotted out.[/p][/quote]Well all those part timers there are 70 M&S jobs going, and people like you really make me smile ,I know many East Europeans who came to Swindon and they all got full time jobs, and they don't read the Morning Star or the Daily Mirror and they certainly don't follow the politics of envy, and the majority being catholic know that God helps those who help themselves. molly60

8:44am Sun 29 Dec 13

GalaxyMan says...

umpcah wrote:
roberto5 wrote:
Shouldn't these stores be town centre based?, some major injection is needed there...
Town centred stores need to have ample parking areas nearby. No chance !
I think parking is already an issue on this retail park. This won't help.
[quote][p][bold]umpcah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roberto5[/bold] wrote: Shouldn't these stores be town centre based?, some major injection is needed there...[/p][/quote]Town centred stores need to have ample parking areas nearby. No chance ![/p][/quote]I think parking is already an issue on this retail park. This won't help. GalaxyMan

10:06am Sun 29 Dec 13

salt and vinegar says...

Are you a gay troll ellofolks
Are you a gay troll ellofolks salt and vinegar

10:43am Sun 29 Dec 13

Davey Gravey says...

molly60 wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
molly60 wrote:
Arrowfield wrote:
Anyone else think there is too many supermarkets in Swindon. New M&S, new Waitrose, Aldis everywhere, new Morrisons in Eldene- only a certain amount of food we can buy and eat!
Where else are the East Europeans going to work as the Brits wont get out of bed for the wages being paid in these places. Somebody has to provide the Tax money so the wasters can enjoy their life on benefits, and don't start on paltry and low wages ,they survive and manage to contribute to the economy and send money back to their home countries.
There are huge numbers of applications for supermarket jobs. The vast majority of staff are British too. Basically your rant is a load of stereotypical ****. People are desperate for full time work as so many are in part time work struggling to make ends meet(something the Tory party is quiet about)

It's like the Daily Mail comments on this site nowadays.Absolute drivel gets trotted out.
Well all those part timers there are 70 M&S jobs going, and people like you really make me smile ,I know many East Europeans who came to Swindon and they all got full time jobs, and they don't read the Morning Star or the Daily Mirror and they certainly don't follow the politics of envy, and the majority being catholic know that God helps those who help themselves.
Although 70 jobs is a positive it's not going to help those desperate to get full time work. Only yesterday BBC news was carrying a story mentioning Swindon having a higher proportion of u25s looking for work than the national average.
Just because immigrants are hard working doesn't effect the situation with locals who cannot get appropriate jobs.
God is a myth by the way too.
[quote][p][bold]molly60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]molly60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrowfield[/bold] wrote: Anyone else think there is too many supermarkets in Swindon. New M&S, new Waitrose, Aldis everywhere, new Morrisons in Eldene- only a certain amount of food we can buy and eat![/p][/quote]Where else are the East Europeans going to work as the Brits wont get out of bed for the wages being paid in these places. Somebody has to provide the Tax money so the wasters can enjoy their life on benefits, and don't start on paltry and low wages ,they survive and manage to contribute to the economy and send money back to their home countries.[/p][/quote]There are huge numbers of applications for supermarket jobs. The vast majority of staff are British too. Basically your rant is a load of stereotypical ****. People are desperate for full time work as so many are in part time work struggling to make ends meet(something the Tory party is quiet about) It's like the Daily Mail comments on this site nowadays.Absolute drivel gets trotted out.[/p][/quote]Well all those part timers there are 70 M&S jobs going, and people like you really make me smile ,I know many East Europeans who came to Swindon and they all got full time jobs, and they don't read the Morning Star or the Daily Mirror and they certainly don't follow the politics of envy, and the majority being catholic know that God helps those who help themselves.[/p][/quote]Although 70 jobs is a positive it's not going to help those desperate to get full time work. Only yesterday BBC news was carrying a story mentioning Swindon having a higher proportion of u25s looking for work than the national average. Just because immigrants are hard working doesn't effect the situation with locals who cannot get appropriate jobs. God is a myth by the way too. Davey Gravey

11:25am Sun 29 Dec 13

John Trollston says...

molly60 The myth that all the British unemployed are all lazy and do not want jobs is false, this is propaganda with no factual or statistical basis and an evil lie fuelled by the media.

migrant workers have a "hard working and obedient" reputation while British applicants are seen as work-shy and devious.

I am blaming uncontrolled immigration that we had for years not the migrant.

But here are some facts:

Despite the claims about poor UK skills and education it might be worth pointing out that adult literacy in Pakistan is barely 50% - define as the ability to read and write to the standard of a typical 11 year old.

How is this form of migration beneficial to the UK?

Of all EU migration 80% is to do low wage work. After three months all habitually resident EU citizens are eligible for the same welfare conditions as a UK citizen. This will include healthcare and housing benefit. Some EU countries have an average wage of 150Euro a month or less. Minimum wage in Poland is around 1/4 of that in the UK.

How is this form of migration beneficial to the UK?

GDP/capita has fallen in the last 5 years much of which is attributable to a larger population doing low wage work and work displacement.

The rise in massive youth unemployment has risen in line with mass uncontrolled immigration .Your average school leaver is entering a very different job market with employers agencies in particular wanting cheap migrant labour, any employer who says any other reason is lying.
molly60 The myth that all the British unemployed are all lazy and do not want jobs is false, this is propaganda with no factual or statistical basis and an evil lie fuelled by the media. migrant workers have a "hard working and obedient" reputation while British applicants are seen as work-shy and devious. I am blaming uncontrolled immigration that we had for years not the migrant. But here are some facts: Despite the claims about poor UK skills and education it might be worth pointing out that adult literacy in Pakistan is barely 50% - define as the ability to read and write to the standard of a typical 11 year old. How is this form of migration beneficial to the UK? Of all EU migration 80% is to do low wage work. After three months all habitually resident EU citizens are eligible for the same welfare conditions as a UK citizen. This will include healthcare and housing benefit. Some EU countries have an average wage of 150Euro a month or less. Minimum wage in Poland is around 1/4 of that in the UK. How is this form of migration beneficial to the UK? GDP/capita has fallen in the last 5 years much of which is attributable to a larger population doing low wage work and work displacement. The rise in massive youth unemployment has risen in line with mass uncontrolled immigration .Your average school leaver is entering a very different job market with employers agencies in particular wanting cheap migrant labour, any employer who says any other reason is lying. John Trollston

11:29am Sun 29 Dec 13

molly60 says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
molly60 wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
molly60 wrote:
Arrowfield wrote:
Anyone else think there is too many supermarkets in Swindon. New M&S, new Waitrose, Aldis everywhere, new Morrisons in Eldene- only a certain amount of food we can buy and eat!
Where else are the East Europeans going to work as the Brits wont get out of bed for the wages being paid in these places. Somebody has to provide the Tax money so the wasters can enjoy their life on benefits, and don't start on paltry and low wages ,they survive and manage to contribute to the economy and send money back to their home countries.
There are huge numbers of applications for supermarket jobs. The vast majority of staff are British too. Basically your rant is a load of stereotypical ****. People are desperate for full time work as so many are in part time work struggling to make ends meet(something the Tory party is quiet about)

It's like the Daily Mail comments on this site nowadays.Absolute drivel gets trotted out.
Well all those part timers there are 70 M&S jobs going, and people like you really make me smile ,I know many East Europeans who came to Swindon and they all got full time jobs, and they don't read the Morning Star or the Daily Mirror and they certainly don't follow the politics of envy, and the majority being catholic know that God helps those who help themselves.
Although 70 jobs is a positive it's not going to help those desperate to get full time work. Only yesterday BBC news was carrying a story mentioning Swindon having a higher proportion of u25s looking for work than the national average.
Just because immigrants are hard working doesn't effect the situation with locals who cannot get appropriate jobs.
God is a myth by the way too.
Ah the BBC ,like the Guardian it must be true. As for the u25s they are products of Blairs Education Education Education probably 4x2 who only know gimmy,gimmy gimmy,init.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]molly60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]molly60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrowfield[/bold] wrote: Anyone else think there is too many supermarkets in Swindon. New M&S, new Waitrose, Aldis everywhere, new Morrisons in Eldene- only a certain amount of food we can buy and eat![/p][/quote]Where else are the East Europeans going to work as the Brits wont get out of bed for the wages being paid in these places. Somebody has to provide the Tax money so the wasters can enjoy their life on benefits, and don't start on paltry and low wages ,they survive and manage to contribute to the economy and send money back to their home countries.[/p][/quote]There are huge numbers of applications for supermarket jobs. The vast majority of staff are British too. Basically your rant is a load of stereotypical ****. People are desperate for full time work as so many are in part time work struggling to make ends meet(something the Tory party is quiet about) It's like the Daily Mail comments on this site nowadays.Absolute drivel gets trotted out.[/p][/quote]Well all those part timers there are 70 M&S jobs going, and people like you really make me smile ,I know many East Europeans who came to Swindon and they all got full time jobs, and they don't read the Morning Star or the Daily Mirror and they certainly don't follow the politics of envy, and the majority being catholic know that God helps those who help themselves.[/p][/quote]Although 70 jobs is a positive it's not going to help those desperate to get full time work. Only yesterday BBC news was carrying a story mentioning Swindon having a higher proportion of u25s looking for work than the national average. Just because immigrants are hard working doesn't effect the situation with locals who cannot get appropriate jobs. God is a myth by the way too.[/p][/quote]Ah the BBC ,like the Guardian it must be true. As for the u25s they are products of Blairs Education Education Education probably 4x2 who only know gimmy,gimmy gimmy,init. molly60

11:42am Sun 29 Dec 13

molly60 says...

John Trollston wrote:
molly60 The myth that all the British unemployed are all lazy and do not want jobs is false, this is propaganda with no factual or statistical basis and an evil lie fuelled by the media.

migrant workers have a "hard working and obedient" reputation while British applicants are seen as work-shy and devious.

I am blaming uncontrolled immigration that we had for years not the migrant.

But here are some facts:

Despite the claims about poor UK skills and education it might be worth pointing out that adult literacy in Pakistan is barely 50% - define as the ability to read and write to the standard of a typical 11 year old.

How is this form of migration beneficial to the UK?

Of all EU migration 80% is to do low wage work. After three months all habitually resident EU citizens are eligible for the same welfare conditions as a UK citizen. This will include healthcare and housing benefit. Some EU countries have an average wage of 150Euro a month or less. Minimum wage in Poland is around 1/4 of that in the UK.

How is this form of migration beneficial to the UK?

GDP/capita has fallen in the last 5 years much of which is attributable to a larger population doing low wage work and work displacement.

The rise in massive youth unemployment has risen in line with mass uncontrolled immigration .Your average school leaver is entering a very different job market with employers agencies in particular wanting cheap migrant labour, any employer who says any other reason is lying.
You are blaming uncontrolled immigration for GBs woes .Is it the legal or illegal immigration especially from the third world you are concerned about?
[quote][p][bold]John Trollston[/bold] wrote: molly60 The myth that all the British unemployed are all lazy and do not want jobs is false, this is propaganda with no factual or statistical basis and an evil lie fuelled by the media. migrant workers have a "hard working and obedient" reputation while British applicants are seen as work-shy and devious. I am blaming uncontrolled immigration that we had for years not the migrant. But here are some facts: Despite the claims about poor UK skills and education it might be worth pointing out that adult literacy in Pakistan is barely 50% - define as the ability to read and write to the standard of a typical 11 year old. How is this form of migration beneficial to the UK? Of all EU migration 80% is to do low wage work. After three months all habitually resident EU citizens are eligible for the same welfare conditions as a UK citizen. This will include healthcare and housing benefit. Some EU countries have an average wage of 150Euro a month or less. Minimum wage in Poland is around 1/4 of that in the UK. How is this form of migration beneficial to the UK? GDP/capita has fallen in the last 5 years much of which is attributable to a larger population doing low wage work and work displacement. The rise in massive youth unemployment has risen in line with mass uncontrolled immigration .Your average school leaver is entering a very different job market with employers agencies in particular wanting cheap migrant labour, any employer who says any other reason is lying.[/p][/quote]You are blaming uncontrolled immigration for GBs woes .Is it the legal or illegal immigration especially from the third world you are concerned about? molly60

11:53am Sun 29 Dec 13

Davey Gravey says...

molly60 wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
molly60 wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
molly60 wrote:
Arrowfield wrote:
Anyone else think there is too many supermarkets in Swindon. New M&S, new Waitrose, Aldis everywhere, new Morrisons in Eldene- only a certain amount of food we can buy and eat!
Where else are the East Europeans going to work as the Brits wont get out of bed for the wages being paid in these places. Somebody has to provide the Tax money so the wasters can enjoy their life on benefits, and don't start on paltry and low wages ,they survive and manage to contribute to the economy and send money back to their home countries.
There are huge numbers of applications for supermarket jobs. The vast majority of staff are British too. Basically your rant is a load of stereotypical ****. People are desperate for full time work as so many are in part time work struggling to make ends meet(something the Tory party is quiet about)

It's like the Daily Mail comments on this site nowadays.Absolute drivel gets trotted out.
Well all those part timers there are 70 M&S jobs going, and people like you really make me smile ,I know many East Europeans who came to Swindon and they all got full time jobs, and they don't read the Morning Star or the Daily Mirror and they certainly don't follow the politics of envy, and the majority being catholic know that God helps those who help themselves.
Although 70 jobs is a positive it's not going to help those desperate to get full time work. Only yesterday BBC news was carrying a story mentioning Swindon having a higher proportion of u25s looking for work than the national average.
Just because immigrants are hard working doesn't effect the situation with locals who cannot get appropriate jobs.
God is a myth by the way too.
Ah the BBC ,like the Guardian it must be true. As for the u25s they are products of Blairs Education Education Education probably 4x2 who only know gimmy,gimmy gimmy,init.
They are indisputable statistics.
The rest of your rant is just more stereotypical drivel like the earlier tripe you trotted out.
People want jobs and there are not jobs for all of them. It is that simple.
You seem to have the view that those out of work are lazy and choose that way. It's an utterly ridiculous way to think and totally false too.
[quote][p][bold]molly60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]molly60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]molly60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrowfield[/bold] wrote: Anyone else think there is too many supermarkets in Swindon. New M&S, new Waitrose, Aldis everywhere, new Morrisons in Eldene- only a certain amount of food we can buy and eat![/p][/quote]Where else are the East Europeans going to work as the Brits wont get out of bed for the wages being paid in these places. Somebody has to provide the Tax money so the wasters can enjoy their life on benefits, and don't start on paltry and low wages ,they survive and manage to contribute to the economy and send money back to their home countries.[/p][/quote]There are huge numbers of applications for supermarket jobs. The vast majority of staff are British too. Basically your rant is a load of stereotypical ****. People are desperate for full time work as so many are in part time work struggling to make ends meet(something the Tory party is quiet about) It's like the Daily Mail comments on this site nowadays.Absolute drivel gets trotted out.[/p][/quote]Well all those part timers there are 70 M&S jobs going, and people like you really make me smile ,I know many East Europeans who came to Swindon and they all got full time jobs, and they don't read the Morning Star or the Daily Mirror and they certainly don't follow the politics of envy, and the majority being catholic know that God helps those who help themselves.[/p][/quote]Although 70 jobs is a positive it's not going to help those desperate to get full time work. Only yesterday BBC news was carrying a story mentioning Swindon having a higher proportion of u25s looking for work than the national average. Just because immigrants are hard working doesn't effect the situation with locals who cannot get appropriate jobs. God is a myth by the way too.[/p][/quote]Ah the BBC ,like the Guardian it must be true. As for the u25s they are products of Blairs Education Education Education probably 4x2 who only know gimmy,gimmy gimmy,init.[/p][/quote]They are indisputable statistics. The rest of your rant is just more stereotypical drivel like the earlier tripe you trotted out. People want jobs and there are not jobs for all of them. It is that simple. You seem to have the view that those out of work are lazy and choose that way. It's an utterly ridiculous way to think and totally false too. Davey Gravey

12:24pm Sun 29 Dec 13

John Trollston says...

That is my point molly60 that Davey Gravey has now posted,

It makes me very angry as I come from a hard working British family that when my fellow country men and women are unemployed it is because they are lazy, feckless, devious ,untrustworthy, ect.

Here is the reason in a nut shell not the above.

Business is often reluctant to admit that it is in favour of higher levels of immigration primarily because it reduces wages at the lower end and thus their costs. Businesses and employment agencies have been found to be actively recruiting overseas

Unemployed British who are not even being given a chance and when they do find a job at the lower end it is now for less money.

The economic benefit of migration largely accrues to the migrant themselves through their wages. Beyond that however there exists little economic benefit from low skilled and low paid migrant workers since they generally add to GDP at the same rate as they add to population, thus failing to increase GDP per head of the population. The National Institute for Economic and Social Research found that the medium-term impact of A8 migration to the UK on GDP per capita was likely to be negligible

Says it all really do we need all these migrants.

“Employers have also become increasingly reluctant to hire teenagers, particularly in London. Only 6 per cent of UK employers, and just 3 per cent of employers in the capital, recruit straight from school. As a result, school-leavers compete with more experienced workers for the same jobs in addition to competing with more highly qualified young people

So its our young who do not want to work right.

There are wider impacts on society as a result of a significant flow of migrants to the UK, including on the provision of housing, healthcare and education.

Lets not even get started on this but heres one within 16 years we will need to build 7 Citys the size of Birmingham just to house the immigrants.
That is my point molly60 that Davey Gravey has now posted, It makes me very angry as I come from a hard working British family that when my fellow country men and women are unemployed it is because they are lazy, feckless, devious ,untrustworthy, ect. Here is the reason in a nut shell not the above. Business is often reluctant to admit that it is in favour of higher levels of immigration primarily because it reduces wages at the lower end and thus their costs. Businesses and employment agencies have been found to be actively recruiting overseas Unemployed British who are not even being given a chance and when they do find a job at the lower end it is now for less money. The economic benefit of migration largely accrues to the migrant themselves through their wages. Beyond that however there exists little economic benefit from low skilled and low paid migrant workers since they generally add to GDP at the same rate as they add to population, thus failing to increase GDP per head of the population. The National Institute for Economic and Social Research found that the medium-term impact of A8 migration to the UK on GDP per capita was likely to be negligible Says it all really do we need all these migrants. “Employers have also become increasingly reluctant to hire teenagers, particularly in London. Only 6 per cent of UK employers, and just 3 per cent of employers in the capital, recruit straight from school. As a result, school-leavers compete with more experienced workers for the same jobs in addition to competing with more highly qualified young people So its our young who do not want to work right. There are wider impacts on society as a result of a significant flow of migrants to the UK, including on the provision of housing, healthcare and education. Lets not even get started on this but heres one within 16 years we will need to build 7 Citys the size of Birmingham just to house the immigrants. John Trollston

2:30pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Ringer says...

Why bother working when the benefits system has become so generous that there is absolutely no need to get up in the morning and actually do something?

Why bother working when uncontrolled legal (and illegal) immigration means that there's always someone who'll do the crap stuff for £4 an hour?

The Labour party's socialist 'dreamworld' has been brought about... and just look at the state of this country now.
Why bother working when the benefits system has become so generous that there is absolutely no need to get up in the morning and actually do something? Why bother working when uncontrolled legal (and illegal) immigration means that there's always someone who'll do the crap stuff for £4 an hour? The Labour party's socialist 'dreamworld' has been brought about... and just look at the state of this country now. Ringer

4:33pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Ringer says...

@Davey Gravey:


People want jobs and there are not jobs for all of them. It is that simple.


That's largely true... and, being the case, we have to ask why your lot encouraged uncontrolled immigration which saw c.12 million immigrants arrive in the UK during your Labour government's recent abysmal period in government.

Of course there aren't jobs for everyone, how could there possibly be enough jobs for large swathes of the rest of the world here in tiny old Britain?


You seem to have the view that those out of work are lazy and choose that way. It's an utterly ridiculous way to think and totally false too.


It is not 'false' or 'ridiculous' at all. There ARE huge numbers of people who have never worked and have absolutely no intention of ever working. There are thousands of families where neither parent nor their offspring have ever worked. Despite the lies you attempt to spread, that's not due to some nasty Tory conspiracy to prevent them from working.

70 jobs is 70 jobs. Some will be full-time and well paid, some won't. You'll never see your bizarre utopia of everyone, no matter how dim, unskilled and socially inept, breezing into the exact job they want, in the exact location they'd prefer and on £50kpa.
@Davey Gravey: [quote] People want jobs and there are not jobs for all of them. It is that simple. [/quote] That's largely true... and, being the case, we have to ask why your lot encouraged uncontrolled immigration which saw c.12 million immigrants arrive in the UK during your Labour government's recent abysmal period in government. Of course there aren't jobs for everyone, how could there possibly be enough jobs for large swathes of the rest of the world here in tiny old Britain? [quote] You seem to have the view that those out of work are lazy and choose that way. It's an utterly ridiculous way to think and totally false too. [/quote] It is not 'false' or 'ridiculous' at all. There ARE huge numbers of people who have never worked and have absolutely no intention of ever working. There are thousands of families where neither parent nor their offspring have ever worked. Despite the lies you attempt to spread, that's not due to some nasty Tory conspiracy to prevent them from working. 70 jobs is 70 jobs. Some will be full-time and well paid, some won't. You'll never see your bizarre utopia of everyone, no matter how dim, unskilled and socially inept, breezing into the exact job they want, in the exact location they'd prefer and on £50kpa. Ringer

4:58pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Davey Gravey says...

Labour are not my lot as I have previously corrected that lie time after time when it's been thrown my way. Still used against me for some reason though. Straw clutching?

There are wasters that choose the dole lifestyle but there are more who do not and want to work.
To generalise in that way is daft.

I've also not spread any lies.
I've never suggested there is "a nasty Tory conspiracy to prevent them from working"
I don't have the view that everyone should have the job they want either. Lie after lie after lie. Grow up Ringer!!!!
Labour are not my lot as I have previously corrected that lie time after time when it's been thrown my way. Still used against me for some reason though. Straw clutching? There are wasters that choose the dole lifestyle but there are more who do not and want to work. To generalise in that way is daft. I've also not spread any lies. I've never suggested there is "a nasty Tory conspiracy to prevent them from working" I don't have the view that everyone should have the job they want either. Lie after lie after lie. Grow up Ringer!!!! Davey Gravey

5:25pm Sun 29 Dec 13

molly60 says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
molly60 wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
molly60 wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
molly60 wrote:
Arrowfield wrote:
Anyone else think there is too many supermarkets in Swindon. New M&S, new Waitrose, Aldis everywhere, new Morrisons in Eldene- only a certain amount of food we can buy and eat!
Where else are the East Europeans going to work as the Brits wont get out of bed for the wages being paid in these places. Somebody has to provide the Tax money so the wasters can enjoy their life on benefits, and don't start on paltry and low wages ,they survive and manage to contribute to the economy and send money back to their home countries.
There are huge numbers of applications for supermarket jobs. The vast majority of staff are British too. Basically your rant is a load of stereotypical ****. People are desperate for full time work as so many are in part time work struggling to make ends meet(something the Tory party is quiet about)

It's like the Daily Mail comments on this site nowadays.Absolute drivel gets trotted out.
Well all those part timers there are 70 M&S jobs going, and people like you really make me smile ,I know many East Europeans who came to Swindon and they all got full time jobs, and they don't read the Morning Star or the Daily Mirror and they certainly don't follow the politics of envy, and the majority being catholic know that God helps those who help themselves.
Although 70 jobs is a positive it's not going to help those desperate to get full time work. Only yesterday BBC news was carrying a story mentioning Swindon having a higher proportion of u25s looking for work than the national average.
Just because immigrants are hard working doesn't effect the situation with locals who cannot get appropriate jobs.
God is a myth by the way too.
Ah the BBC ,like the Guardian it must be true. As for the u25s they are products of Blairs Education Education Education probably 4x2 who only know gimmy,gimmy gimmy,init.
They are indisputable statistics.
The rest of your rant is just more stereotypical drivel like the earlier tripe you trotted out.
People want jobs and there are not jobs for all of them. It is that simple.
You seem to have the view that those out of work are lazy and choose that way. It's an utterly ridiculous way to think and totally false too.
So all these people coming from Eastern Europe are getting non existent jobs then? Hmmmmmmmmmm. Never mind comrade Miliband and Komisar Balls will solve the problem, look at those dirty moneyed people what a mess they have made .Soak the rich soak them all only we the ruling class should drink champagne .Pop down to Aldi and get a bottle think its £7.50
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]molly60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]molly60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]molly60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrowfield[/bold] wrote: Anyone else think there is too many supermarkets in Swindon. New M&S, new Waitrose, Aldis everywhere, new Morrisons in Eldene- only a certain amount of food we can buy and eat![/p][/quote]Where else are the East Europeans going to work as the Brits wont get out of bed for the wages being paid in these places. Somebody has to provide the Tax money so the wasters can enjoy their life on benefits, and don't start on paltry and low wages ,they survive and manage to contribute to the economy and send money back to their home countries.[/p][/quote]There are huge numbers of applications for supermarket jobs. The vast majority of staff are British too. Basically your rant is a load of stereotypical ****. People are desperate for full time work as so many are in part time work struggling to make ends meet(something the Tory party is quiet about) It's like the Daily Mail comments on this site nowadays.Absolute drivel gets trotted out.[/p][/quote]Well all those part timers there are 70 M&S jobs going, and people like you really make me smile ,I know many East Europeans who came to Swindon and they all got full time jobs, and they don't read the Morning Star or the Daily Mirror and they certainly don't follow the politics of envy, and the majority being catholic know that God helps those who help themselves.[/p][/quote]Although 70 jobs is a positive it's not going to help those desperate to get full time work. Only yesterday BBC news was carrying a story mentioning Swindon having a higher proportion of u25s looking for work than the national average. Just because immigrants are hard working doesn't effect the situation with locals who cannot get appropriate jobs. God is a myth by the way too.[/p][/quote]Ah the BBC ,like the Guardian it must be true. As for the u25s they are products of Blairs Education Education Education probably 4x2 who only know gimmy,gimmy gimmy,init.[/p][/quote]They are indisputable statistics. The rest of your rant is just more stereotypical drivel like the earlier tripe you trotted out. People want jobs and there are not jobs for all of them. It is that simple. You seem to have the view that those out of work are lazy and choose that way. It's an utterly ridiculous way to think and totally false too.[/p][/quote]So all these people coming from Eastern Europe are getting non existent jobs then? Hmmmmmmmmmm. Never mind comrade Miliband and Komisar Balls will solve the problem, look at those dirty moneyed people what a mess they have made .Soak the rich soak them all only we the ruling class should drink champagne .Pop down to Aldi and get a bottle think its £7.50 molly60

5:33pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Ringer says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Labour are not my lot as I have previously corrected that lie time after time when it's been thrown my way. Still used against me for some reason though. Straw clutching?

There are wasters that choose the dole lifestyle but there are more who do not and want to work.
To generalise in that way is daft.

I've also not spread any lies.
I've never suggested there is "a nasty Tory conspiracy to prevent them from working"
I don't have the view that everyone should have the job they want either. Lie after lie after lie. Grow up Ringer!!!!
Oh, Davey, everything you post comes straight out of the Labour HQ handbook: 'nationalise this, nationalise that', 'give everyone on benefits more money because they're all hard working people really', 'support the fire fighters taking more of your money' etc. etc.

It's ALL just a barrage of left-wing tropes and misinformation.

70 new jobs have been created by a good quality retailer in Swindon. That means the new year starts with 70 people taking on a job they've applied for and managed to secure... and yet STILL you MOAN about it.

Good luck to those with new jobs and I'll look forward to shopping at the new store. Whingers such as Davey will hopefully stick to Aldi, Lidl and the like.

And, by the way, yes you have blamed the 'nasty Tories' for just about everything at one point or another, that's why it's all so tedious.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Labour are not my lot as I have previously corrected that lie time after time when it's been thrown my way. Still used against me for some reason though. Straw clutching? There are wasters that choose the dole lifestyle but there are more who do not and want to work. To generalise in that way is daft. I've also not spread any lies. I've never suggested there is "a nasty Tory conspiracy to prevent them from working" I don't have the view that everyone should have the job they want either. Lie after lie after lie. Grow up Ringer!!!![/p][/quote]Oh, Davey, everything you post comes straight out of the Labour HQ handbook: 'nationalise this, nationalise that', 'give everyone on benefits more money because they're all hard working people really', 'support the fire fighters taking more of your money' etc. etc. It's ALL just a barrage of left-wing tropes and misinformation. 70 new jobs have been created by a good quality retailer in Swindon. That means the new year starts with 70 people taking on a job they've applied for and managed to secure... and yet STILL you MOAN about it. Good luck to those with new jobs and I'll look forward to shopping at the new store. Whingers such as Davey will hopefully stick to Aldi, Lidl and the like. And, by the way, yes you have blamed the 'nasty Tories' for just about everything at one point or another, that's why it's all so tedious. Ringer

6:33pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Davey Gravey says...

Pointless having a debate with someone who misquotes and makes things up. Now even telling me where I shop.
Ironic saying someone is tedious yet spouting the same stuff out every day. Judges this, socialists that, jail this, lefties that.

Nice manipulation of the thumbs up and down by someone again this evening I note too. Wonder who that could be doing that?
Pointless having a debate with someone who misquotes and makes things up. Now even telling me where I shop. Ironic saying someone is tedious yet spouting the same stuff out every day. Judges this, socialists that, jail this, lefties that. Nice manipulation of the thumbs up and down by someone again this evening I note too. Wonder who that could be doing that? Davey Gravey

6:42pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Ellofolks says...

molly60 wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
molly60 wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
molly60 wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
molly60 wrote:
Arrowfield wrote:
Anyone else think there is too many supermarkets in Swindon. New M&S, new Waitrose, Aldis everywhere, new Morrisons in Eldene- only a certain amount of food we can buy and eat!
Where else are the East Europeans going to work as the Brits wont get out of bed for the wages being paid in these places. Somebody has to provide the Tax money so the wasters can enjoy their life on benefits, and don't start on paltry and low wages ,they survive and manage to contribute to the economy and send money back to their home countries.
There are huge numbers of applications for supermarket jobs. The vast majority of staff are British too. Basically your rant is a load of stereotypical ****. People are desperate for full time work as so many are in part time work struggling to make ends meet(something the Tory party is quiet about)

It's like the Daily Mail comments on this site nowadays.Absolute drivel gets trotted out.
Well all those part timers there are 70 M&S jobs going, and people like you really make me smile ,I know many East Europeans who came to Swindon and they all got full time jobs, and they don't read the Morning Star or the Daily Mirror and they certainly don't follow the politics of envy, and the majority being catholic know that God helps those who help themselves.
Although 70 jobs is a positive it's not going to help those desperate to get full time work. Only yesterday BBC news was carrying a story mentioning Swindon having a higher proportion of u25s looking for work than the national average.
Just because immigrants are hard working doesn't effect the situation with locals who cannot get appropriate jobs.
God is a myth by the way too.
Ah the BBC ,like the Guardian it must be true. As for the u25s they are products of Blairs Education Education Education probably 4x2 who only know gimmy,gimmy gimmy,init.
They are indisputable statistics.
The rest of your rant is just more stereotypical drivel like the earlier tripe you trotted out.
People want jobs and there are not jobs for all of them. It is that simple.
You seem to have the view that those out of work are lazy and choose that way. It's an utterly ridiculous way to think and totally false too.
So all these people coming from Eastern Europe are getting non existent jobs then? Hmmmmmmmmmm. Never mind comrade Miliband and Komisar Balls will solve the problem, look at those dirty moneyed people what a mess they have made .Soak the rich soak them all only we the ruling class should drink champagne .Pop down to Aldi and get a bottle think its £7.50
Ha ha a grounding comment to the Mela! Don't tell folks about the champers in Aldi. The pesky immigrants will have that too! Better get my skates on.
[quote][p][bold]molly60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]molly60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]molly60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]molly60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrowfield[/bold] wrote: Anyone else think there is too many supermarkets in Swindon. New M&S, new Waitrose, Aldis everywhere, new Morrisons in Eldene- only a certain amount of food we can buy and eat![/p][/quote]Where else are the East Europeans going to work as the Brits wont get out of bed for the wages being paid in these places. Somebody has to provide the Tax money so the wasters can enjoy their life on benefits, and don't start on paltry and low wages ,they survive and manage to contribute to the economy and send money back to their home countries.[/p][/quote]There are huge numbers of applications for supermarket jobs. The vast majority of staff are British too. Basically your rant is a load of stereotypical ****. People are desperate for full time work as so many are in part time work struggling to make ends meet(something the Tory party is quiet about) It's like the Daily Mail comments on this site nowadays.Absolute drivel gets trotted out.[/p][/quote]Well all those part timers there are 70 M&S jobs going, and people like you really make me smile ,I know many East Europeans who came to Swindon and they all got full time jobs, and they don't read the Morning Star or the Daily Mirror and they certainly don't follow the politics of envy, and the majority being catholic know that God helps those who help themselves.[/p][/quote]Although 70 jobs is a positive it's not going to help those desperate to get full time work. Only yesterday BBC news was carrying a story mentioning Swindon having a higher proportion of u25s looking for work than the national average. Just because immigrants are hard working doesn't effect the situation with locals who cannot get appropriate jobs. God is a myth by the way too.[/p][/quote]Ah the BBC ,like the Guardian it must be true. As for the u25s they are products of Blairs Education Education Education probably 4x2 who only know gimmy,gimmy gimmy,init.[/p][/quote]They are indisputable statistics. The rest of your rant is just more stereotypical drivel like the earlier tripe you trotted out. People want jobs and there are not jobs for all of them. It is that simple. You seem to have the view that those out of work are lazy and choose that way. It's an utterly ridiculous way to think and totally false too.[/p][/quote]So all these people coming from Eastern Europe are getting non existent jobs then? Hmmmmmmmmmm. Never mind comrade Miliband and Komisar Balls will solve the problem, look at those dirty moneyed people what a mess they have made .Soak the rich soak them all only we the ruling class should drink champagne .Pop down to Aldi and get a bottle think its £7.50[/p][/quote]Ha ha a grounding comment to the Mela! Don't tell folks about the champers in Aldi. The pesky immigrants will have that too! Better get my skates on. Ellofolks

8:47pm Sun 29 Dec 13

roberto5 says...

I've noticed that these comments on here are always being dragged towards immigrants, is this a boiling point in Swindon?!
I've noticed that these comments on here are always being dragged towards immigrants, is this a boiling point in Swindon?! roberto5

9:13pm Sun 29 Dec 13

dukeofM4 says...

Unless the UK votes itself out of the EU in 2017, accept other EU citizens are not migrants. 'Migrants' come from outside the EU.

Also British citizens will be the 'migrants' if the Tories succeed voting this country out of the EU.

Do people really want to be queuing up outside embassies in London apply for visas to go live in France, Spain, etc. Nobody really wants to go back to those days because some people get hung up over the EU laws.

Swindon needs obviously high value jobs not just minimum wage ones topped up with tax credits. Otherwise all the local economy can support are shops like Poundland, or Cash Converters. The only reason why the Outlet Centre prospers is so many people drive from miles away to shop.
Unless the UK votes itself out of the EU in 2017, accept other EU citizens are not migrants. 'Migrants' come from outside the EU. Also British citizens will be the 'migrants' if the Tories succeed voting this country out of the EU. Do people really want to be queuing up outside embassies in London apply for visas to go live in France, Spain, etc. Nobody really wants to go back to those days because some people get hung up over the EU laws. Swindon needs obviously high value jobs not just minimum wage ones topped up with tax credits. Otherwise all the local economy can support are shops like Poundland, or Cash Converters. The only reason why the Outlet Centre prospers is so many people drive from miles away to shop. dukeofM4

9:23pm Sun 29 Dec 13

molly60 says...

roberto5 wrote:
I've noticed that these comments on here are always being dragged towards immigrants, is this a boiling point in Swindon?!
Legal or illegal East European or Africa or the Indian subcontinent really makes it interesting, brings out the real character of people.
[quote][p][bold]roberto5[/bold] wrote: I've noticed that these comments on here are always being dragged towards immigrants, is this a boiling point in Swindon?![/p][/quote]Legal or illegal East European or Africa or the Indian subcontinent really makes it interesting, brings out the real character of people. molly60

7:16am Mon 30 Dec 13

Ringer says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Pointless having a debate with someone who misquotes and makes things up. Now even telling me where I shop.
Ironic saying someone is tedious yet spouting the same stuff out every day. Judges this, socialists that, jail this, lefties that.

Nice manipulation of the thumbs up and down by someone again this evening I note too. Wonder who that could be doing that?
Yes, it has been interesting to watch just how many 'thumbs up' your recent posts have attracted within a very short period of time.

I 'wonder' who is making that happen, Davey.

BTW, I didn't say you necessarily spouted the 'same' stuff everyday, just that everything you do spout sounds like a slightly misinterpreted version of the guff that pours forth from Labour HQ on an hourly basis. If you don't even realise your postings read like a Viz character version of a militant socialist, there's really very little hope for you.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Pointless having a debate with someone who misquotes and makes things up. Now even telling me where I shop. Ironic saying someone is tedious yet spouting the same stuff out every day. Judges this, socialists that, jail this, lefties that. Nice manipulation of the thumbs up and down by someone again this evening I note too. Wonder who that could be doing that?[/p][/quote]Yes, it has been interesting to watch just how many 'thumbs up' your recent posts have attracted within a very short period of time. I 'wonder' who is making that happen, Davey. BTW, I didn't say you necessarily spouted the 'same' stuff everyday, just that everything you do spout sounds like a slightly misinterpreted version of the guff that pours forth from Labour HQ on an hourly basis. If you don't even realise your postings read like a Viz character version of a militant socialist, there's really very little hope for you. Ringer

10:13am Mon 30 Dec 13

Empty Car Park says...

Ringer ranted
BTW, I didn't say you necessarily spouted the 'same' stuff everyday, just that everything you do spout sounds like a slightly misinterpreted version of the guff that pours forth from Labour HQ on an hourly basis. If you don't even realise your postings read like a Viz character version of a militant socialist, there's really very little hope for you.


So you've spent most of the festive season ranting the usual guff and (not) making friends on here?

Interesting that, by your own admission, you record Labour HQ on an hourly basis though.
You must be a closet communist.

As for being a comic Viz character?
That's not Davey, it's you.
Your character would be called Plastic Westminster.
He would change the smallest of events, even making a cup of tea into an opportunity to say
"13 years of Labour blah blah blah",
"you're all lefties blah blah blah",
"I'm reporting you for pointing out my manipulation blah blah blah"
"Don't come on my forum, go away to Talk Swindon"
"Everyone's poorly educated except me 'cos of Labour"
"My robust treatment will make you leave and I'll win"
"I only use one login, all the lefties use multiple logins"
"Don't discuss the supermarket or the jobs. It's Labour Labour Labour"
"Swindon Borough Council and developers have made a fantastic job of Swindon and I'm not a councillor. Absolutely not. Especially not a Labour councillor. No way"
"I blame Labour for making me spend my entire christmas on here ranting"
"Don't join in community events, cos I don't like it, just leave town"
"Now I've forgotten to stir my tea. All thanks to Labour"

Yep.
Definitely a Viz character
Ringer ranted [quote]BTW, I didn't say you necessarily spouted the 'same' stuff everyday, just that everything you do spout sounds like a slightly misinterpreted version of the guff that pours forth from Labour HQ on an hourly basis. If you don't even realise your postings read like a Viz character version of a militant socialist, there's really very little hope for you.[/quote] So you've spent most of the festive season ranting the usual guff and (not) making friends on here? Interesting that, by your own admission, you record Labour HQ on an hourly basis though. You must be a closet communist. As for being a comic Viz character? That's not Davey, it's you. Your character would be called Plastic Westminster. He would change the smallest of events, even making a cup of tea into an opportunity to say "13 years of Labour blah blah blah", "you're all lefties blah blah blah", "I'm reporting you for pointing out my manipulation blah blah blah" "Don't come on my forum, go away to Talk Swindon" "Everyone's poorly educated except me 'cos of Labour" "My robust treatment will make you leave and I'll win" "I only use one login, all the lefties use multiple logins" "Don't discuss the supermarket or the jobs. It's Labour Labour Labour" "Swindon Borough Council and developers have made a fantastic job of Swindon and I'm not a councillor. Absolutely not. Especially not a Labour councillor. No way" "I blame Labour for making me spend my entire christmas on here ranting" "Don't join in community events, cos I don't like it, just leave town" "Now I've forgotten to stir my tea. All thanks to Labour" Yep. Definitely a Viz character Empty Car Park

10:13am Mon 30 Dec 13

RichardR1 says...

Interesting the benefits thing was on the news this morning. It seems whilst we will not pay them benefits their own country will, thus encouraging them to come to the UK. They will also have a EU Green Card which will allow them to reclaim most health costs incurred. So these two great moves by Cameron will achieve nothing.

It seems other EU countries have found a legal way of delaying the migration until 2017, so why haven't we.

As for the jobs, unfortunately part-time jobs lead to pound for pound reduction in benefits, and whilst morally it is right to work there will be those who will simply not want to do it.
Interesting the benefits thing was on the news this morning. It seems whilst we will not pay them benefits their own country will, thus encouraging them to come to the UK. They will also have a EU Green Card which will allow them to reclaim most health costs incurred. So these two great moves by Cameron will achieve nothing. It seems other EU countries have found a legal way of delaying the migration until 2017, so why haven't we. As for the jobs, unfortunately part-time jobs lead to pound for pound reduction in benefits, and whilst morally it is right to work there will be those who will simply not want to do it. RichardR1

10:37am Mon 30 Dec 13

Ringer says...

Empty Car Park wrote:
Ringer ranted
BTW, I didn't say you necessarily spouted the 'same' stuff everyday, just that everything you do spout sounds like a slightly misinterpreted version of the guff that pours forth from Labour HQ on an hourly basis. If you don't even realise your postings read like a Viz character version of a militant socialist, there's really very little hope for you.


So you've spent most of the festive season ranting the usual guff and (not) making friends on here?

Interesting that, by your own admission, you record Labour HQ on an hourly basis though.
You must be a closet communist.

As for being a comic Viz character?
That's not Davey, it's you.
Your character would be called Plastic Westminster.
He would change the smallest of events, even making a cup of tea into an opportunity to say
"13 years of Labour blah blah blah",
"you're all lefties blah blah blah",
"I'm reporting you for pointing out my manipulation blah blah blah"
"Don't come on my forum, go away to Talk Swindon"
"Everyone's poorly educated except me 'cos of Labour"
"My robust treatment will make you leave and I'll win"
"I only use one login, all the lefties use multiple logins"
"Don't discuss the supermarket or the jobs. It's Labour Labour Labour"
"Swindon Borough Council and developers have made a fantastic job of Swindon and I'm not a councillor. Absolutely not. Especially not a Labour councillor. No way"
"I blame Labour for making me spend my entire christmas on here ranting"
"Don't join in community events, cos I don't like it, just leave town"
"Now I've forgotten to stir my tea. All thanks to Labour"

Yep.
Definitely a Viz character
And you accused me of 'ranting'.

Happy New Year to you, but please do seek some professional help.

You may also, finally, then be able to explain what 'Plastic Westminster' is supposed to actually mean.
[quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: Ringer ranted [quote]BTW, I didn't say you necessarily spouted the 'same' stuff everyday, just that everything you do spout sounds like a slightly misinterpreted version of the guff that pours forth from Labour HQ on an hourly basis. If you don't even realise your postings read like a Viz character version of a militant socialist, there's really very little hope for you.[/quote] So you've spent most of the festive season ranting the usual guff and (not) making friends on here? Interesting that, by your own admission, you record Labour HQ on an hourly basis though. You must be a closet communist. As for being a comic Viz character? That's not Davey, it's you. Your character would be called Plastic Westminster. He would change the smallest of events, even making a cup of tea into an opportunity to say "13 years of Labour blah blah blah", "you're all lefties blah blah blah", "I'm reporting you for pointing out my manipulation blah blah blah" "Don't come on my forum, go away to Talk Swindon" "Everyone's poorly educated except me 'cos of Labour" "My robust treatment will make you leave and I'll win" "I only use one login, all the lefties use multiple logins" "Don't discuss the supermarket or the jobs. It's Labour Labour Labour" "Swindon Borough Council and developers have made a fantastic job of Swindon and I'm not a councillor. Absolutely not. Especially not a Labour councillor. No way" "I blame Labour for making me spend my entire christmas on here ranting" "Don't join in community events, cos I don't like it, just leave town" "Now I've forgotten to stir my tea. All thanks to Labour" Yep. Definitely a Viz character[/p][/quote]And you accused me of 'ranting'. Happy New Year to you, but please do seek some professional help. You may also, finally, then be able to explain what 'Plastic Westminster' is supposed to actually mean. Ringer

10:49am Mon 30 Dec 13

Empty Car Park says...

Ringer ranted
BTW, I didn't say you necessarily spouted the 'same' stuff everyday, just that everything you do spout sounds like a slightly misinterpreted version of the guff that pours forth from Labour HQ on an hourly basis. If you don't even realise your postings read like a Viz character version of a militant socialist, there's really very little hope for you.


So you've spent most of the festive season ranting the usual guff and (not) making friends on here?

Interesting that, by your own admission, you record Labour HQ on an hourly basis though.
You must be a closet communist.

As for being a comic Viz character?
That's not Davey, it's you.

Your character would be called Plastic Westminster.

He would change the smallest of events, even making a cup of tea into an opportunity to say........

13 years of Labour blah blah blah

you're all lefties blah blah blah

I'm reporting you for pointing out my manipulation blah blah blah

Don't come on my forum, go away to Talk Swindon

Everyone's poorly educated except me 'cos of Labour

My robust treatment will make you leave and I'll win

I only use one login, all the lefties use multiple logins

Don't discuss the supermarket or the jobs. It's Labour Labour Labour

Swindon Borough Council and developers have made a fantastic job of Swindon and I'm NOT a councillor. Absolutely not. Especially not a Labour councillor. No way

I blame Labour for making me spend my entire christmas on here ranting

Don't join in community events, cos I don't like it, just leave town

Now I've forgotten to stir my tea. All thanks to Labour

Seek some professional help

What does Plastic Westminster mean cos only I don't understand the example


Yep.
Definitely a Viz character
Ringer ranted [quote]BTW, I didn't say you necessarily spouted the 'same' stuff everyday, just that everything you do spout sounds like a slightly misinterpreted version of the guff that pours forth from Labour HQ on an hourly basis. If you don't even realise your postings read like a Viz character version of a militant socialist, there's really very little hope for you.[/quote] So you've spent most of the festive season ranting the usual guff and (not) making friends on here? Interesting that, by your own admission, you record Labour HQ on an hourly basis though. You must be a closet communist. As for being a comic Viz character? That's not Davey, it's you. Your character would be called Plastic Westminster. He would change the smallest of events, even making a cup of tea into an opportunity to say........ 13 years of Labour blah blah blah you're all lefties blah blah blah I'm reporting you for pointing out my manipulation blah blah blah Don't come on my forum, go away to Talk Swindon Everyone's poorly educated except me 'cos of Labour My robust treatment will make you leave and I'll win I only use one login, all the lefties use multiple logins Don't discuss the supermarket or the jobs. It's Labour Labour Labour Swindon Borough Council and developers have made a fantastic job of Swindon and I'm NOT a councillor. Absolutely not. Especially not a Labour councillor. No way I blame Labour for making me spend my entire christmas on here ranting Don't join in community events, cos I don't like it, just leave town Now I've forgotten to stir my tea. All thanks to Labour Seek some professional help What does Plastic Westminster mean cos only I don't understand the example Yep. Definitely a Viz character Empty Car Park

11:22am Mon 30 Dec 13

Ringer says...

Empty Car Park wrote:
Ringer ranted
BTW, I didn't say you necessarily spouted the 'same' stuff everyday, just that everything you do spout sounds like a slightly misinterpreted version of the guff that pours forth from Labour HQ on an hourly basis. If you don't even realise your postings read like a Viz character version of a militant socialist, there's really very little hope for you.


So you've spent most of the festive season ranting the usual guff and (not) making friends on here?

Interesting that, by your own admission, you record Labour HQ on an hourly basis though.
You must be a closet communist.

As for being a comic Viz character?
That's not Davey, it's you.

Your character would be called Plastic Westminster.

He would change the smallest of events, even making a cup of tea into an opportunity to say........

13 years of Labour blah blah blah

you're all lefties blah blah blah

I'm reporting you for pointing out my manipulation blah blah blah

Don't come on my forum, go away to Talk Swindon

Everyone's poorly educated except me 'cos of Labour

My robust treatment will make you leave and I'll win

I only use one login, all the lefties use multiple logins

Don't discuss the supermarket or the jobs. It's Labour Labour Labour

Swindon Borough Council and developers have made a fantastic job of Swindon and I'm NOT a councillor. Absolutely not. Especially not a Labour councillor. No way

I blame Labour for making me spend my entire christmas on here ranting

Don't join in community events, cos I don't like it, just leave town

Now I've forgotten to stir my tea. All thanks to Labour

Seek some professional help

What does Plastic Westminster mean cos only I don't understand the example


Yep.
Definitely a Viz character
You almost appear to have learnt how to Copy & Paste. Well done, you've finally achieved something.
[quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: Ringer ranted [quote]BTW, I didn't say you necessarily spouted the 'same' stuff everyday, just that everything you do spout sounds like a slightly misinterpreted version of the guff that pours forth from Labour HQ on an hourly basis. If you don't even realise your postings read like a Viz character version of a militant socialist, there's really very little hope for you.[/quote] So you've spent most of the festive season ranting the usual guff and (not) making friends on here? Interesting that, by your own admission, you record Labour HQ on an hourly basis though. You must be a closet communist. As for being a comic Viz character? That's not Davey, it's you. Your character would be called Plastic Westminster. He would change the smallest of events, even making a cup of tea into an opportunity to say........ 13 years of Labour blah blah blah you're all lefties blah blah blah I'm reporting you for pointing out my manipulation blah blah blah Don't come on my forum, go away to Talk Swindon Everyone's poorly educated except me 'cos of Labour My robust treatment will make you leave and I'll win I only use one login, all the lefties use multiple logins Don't discuss the supermarket or the jobs. It's Labour Labour Labour Swindon Borough Council and developers have made a fantastic job of Swindon and I'm NOT a councillor. Absolutely not. Especially not a Labour councillor. No way I blame Labour for making me spend my entire christmas on here ranting Don't join in community events, cos I don't like it, just leave town Now I've forgotten to stir my tea. All thanks to Labour Seek some professional help What does Plastic Westminster mean cos only I don't understand the example Yep. Definitely a Viz character[/p][/quote]You almost appear to have learnt how to Copy & Paste. Well done, you've finally achieved something. Ringer

4:07pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Empty Car Park says...

Yep.
Ringer the Viz character
Yep. Ringer the Viz character Empty Car Park

4:08pm Mon 30 Dec 13

John Trollston says...

molly60 wrote:
roberto5 wrote:
I've noticed that these comments on here are always being dragged towards immigrants, is this a boiling point in Swindon?!
Legal or illegal East European or Africa or the Indian subcontinent really makes it interesting, brings out the real character of people.
I only posted the facts on immigration as you chose to label British workers lazy and other rubbish I will not stand for this untrue lie. You show your ignorance by continuing to ignoring the facts on immigration.

British workers have been demonised for to long for the sake of cheap migrant workers from the EU and a far.

I want controlled immigration like other countries for the simple fact we as a nation do not have the infrastructure Schools /NHS in place to support this Impact of Migrant Labour.


Don't we need foreigners to do to the jobs that British people are unwilling to do?

No. The underlying issue is pay rates for the unskilled. At present, the difference between unskilled pay and benefits is so narrow , for many, wages at the bottom of the scale have been held back by high levels of immigration.

There is some anecdotal evidence of foreign workers being preferred as well as concrete evidence of job displacement. In January 2010 the independent Migration Advisory Committee found that between 1995 and 2010 160,000 British workers were displaced in the labour market by non-EU migrants

Do we need immigration to fill vacancies?

No - there are always about half a million vacancies as people move jobs (known as “frictional” unemployment).There are almost 2.5 million people in the UK registered as unemployed and there is, therefore, no shortage of labour.

Surely immigrants benefit our economy?

Despite the claims of the immigration lobby there is no economic argument in favour of current levels of net migration.
[quote][p][bold]molly60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roberto5[/bold] wrote: I've noticed that these comments on here are always being dragged towards immigrants, is this a boiling point in Swindon?![/p][/quote]Legal or illegal East European or Africa or the Indian subcontinent really makes it interesting, brings out the real character of people.[/p][/quote]I only posted the facts on immigration as you chose to label British workers lazy and other rubbish I will not stand for this untrue lie. You show your ignorance by continuing to ignoring the facts on immigration. British workers have been demonised for to long for the sake of cheap migrant workers from the EU and a far. I want controlled immigration like other countries for the simple fact we as a nation do not have the infrastructure Schools /NHS in place to support this Impact of Migrant Labour. Don't we need foreigners to do to the jobs that British people are unwilling to do? No. The underlying issue is pay rates for the unskilled. At present, the difference between unskilled pay and benefits is so narrow , for many, wages at the bottom of the scale have been held back by high levels of immigration. There is some anecdotal evidence of foreign workers being preferred as well as concrete evidence of job displacement. In January 2010 the independent Migration Advisory Committee found that between 1995 and 2010 160,000 British workers were displaced in the labour market by non-EU migrants Do we need immigration to fill vacancies? No - there are always about half a million vacancies as people move jobs (known as “frictional” unemployment).There are almost 2.5 million people in the UK registered as unemployed and there is, therefore, no shortage of labour. Surely immigrants benefit our economy? Despite the claims of the immigration lobby there is no economic argument in favour of current levels of net migration. John Trollston

2:34pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Ringer says...

The reality and truth about immigrants and their contribution to the UK economy:


Migration has brought 'zero' economic benefit

Ten years of record immigration to Britain has produced virtually no economic benefits for the country, a parliamentary inquiry has found.

The House of Lords committee reported:

"Our overall conclusion is that the economic benefits of net immigration to the resident population are small and close to zero in the long run"

The findings of the Lords economics committee threaten to demolish the key argument made by ministers to justify the highest levels of immigration in the country's history.

The inquiry by the committee, which includes two former chancellors and several former Cabinet ministers, is the first to try to balance the costs and benefits of large-scale immigration.
The reality and truth about immigrants and their contribution to the UK economy: [quote] Migration has brought 'zero' economic benefit Ten years of record immigration to Britain has produced virtually no economic benefits for the country, a parliamentary inquiry has found. The House of Lords committee reported: "Our overall conclusion is that the economic benefits of net immigration to the resident population are small and close to zero in the long run" The findings of the Lords economics committee threaten to demolish the key argument made by ministers to justify the highest levels of immigration in the country's history. The inquiry by the committee, which includes two former chancellors and several former Cabinet ministers, is the first to try to balance the costs and benefits of large-scale immigration. [/quote] Ringer

10:57am Wed 1 Jan 14

Empty Car Park says...

Migration has brought 'zero' economic benefit


Well they've been a benefit to me.
I'm selling my house to one :-)
[quote]Migration has brought 'zero' economic benefit[/quote] Well they've been a benefit to me. I'm selling my house to one :-) Empty Car Park

7:51pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Ringer says...

Empty Car Park wrote:
Migration has brought 'zero' economic benefit


Well they've been a benefit to me.
I'm selling my house to one :-)
Yes, that's a clear example of how net migration can sometimes prove to be a positive thing: people who offer very little leave an area to be replaced by far more worthwhile people.

I'm sure the new owners of your house will prove to be of much more value to their neighbours and the town as a whole.
[quote][p][bold]Empty Car Park[/bold] wrote: [quote]Migration has brought 'zero' economic benefit[/quote] Well they've been a benefit to me. I'm selling my house to one :-)[/p][/quote]Yes, that's a clear example of how net migration can sometimes prove to be a positive thing: people who offer very little leave an area to be replaced by far more worthwhile people. I'm sure the new owners of your house will prove to be of much more value to their neighbours and the town as a whole. Ringer

9:20pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Empty Car Park says...

Don't keep on spouting drivel Pete.

You know I have supported many community events over the years.

I will of course return to Swindon at various dates, to continue my support at those events because that's more important than your opinion.
Don't keep on spouting drivel Pete. You know I have supported many community events over the years. I will of course return to Swindon at various dates, to continue my support at those events because that's more important than your opinion. Empty Car Park

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