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Boss happy to risk Foodbank fakers

Swindon Advertiser: David Hartridge, the project manager at Swindon Food Bank David Hartridge, the project manager at Swindon Food Bank

FOODBANK project manager David Hartridge is happy to risk phony claimants slipping through the net at doctor’s surgeries if it means GPs remain a vital referral source for those in genuine crisis.

David’s defence of Swindon Foodbank and its referrals system came after comments by Toothill practitioner Peter Swinyard, who felt GPs were not best placed to refer people for food handouts.

The charity’s chief agreed decisions on referring people to the help on offer at the foodbank should be made solely on financial grounds, but disputed the idea doctors are a misplaced cog in the system.

David said: “From time to time, unfortunately we are only human. We do have people who have tried it on, but the number for those who are not genuine claimants is less than one per cent in total.

“The fact is, I’m prepared to take that risk, for the sake of the 99 per cent who depend on the work we do.

“To be honest, if someone wants to be deceptive then one has to take that person and either tell them they don’t believe them and send them away or you accept their story without evidence and offer them help on a one-off basis.”

Doctors, along with social workers, health visitors and social organisations, have the power to refer members of the public who are most in need to foodbank organisations, who offer food handouts.

These professional groups act as a filter for foodbanks, deciding who is and who is not in genuine need of help with food.

David does not believe the current system of referrals needs to change. Although if it became a more widespread problem which caused problems nationwide, he would back the need for change.

“A lot of the people we see have some sort of medical condition; they may be medically unfit to work, or suffering depression. Doctors see these issues and may need to refer to us for help,” said David.

“As far as the doctor is concerned, we are not asking him to comment on the financial situations of patients.

“A doctor sees evidence of an inability to feed one’s children for instance, through a consultation. It is also the staff around the doctor at the practice; all can ask if a foodbank voucher would help on a one-off basis.

“By accepting the risk (of false claims), recognising the risk is a low number and recognising it exists, I would want to offer GPs the opportunity to be part of the scheme.

“They don’t have to issue the vouchers just because they have them. If they don’t want the vouchers at all, that’s fine too. There is no obligation for GPs to be a part of this.”

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5:58am Sat 8 Feb 14

ChannelX says...


but the number for those who are not genuine claimants is less than one per cent in total.


Talk about plucking figures from thin air.

As I understand it, around 120 people now use the Swindon Foodbank. Obviously David Hartridge is keen to protect his job and ensure that people keep donating, but is he *seriously* trying to pretend that only ONE person has ever 'tried it on' at the local Foodbank?

Really?


“A lot of the people we see have some sort of medical condition; they may be medically unfit to work, or suffering depression."


Which means they'll be coining it in on numerous benefits - so why haven't they got money to buy food?
[quote] but the number for those who are not genuine claimants is less than one per cent in total. [/quote] Talk about plucking figures from thin air. As I understand it, around 120 people now use the Swindon Foodbank. Obviously David Hartridge is keen to protect his job and ensure that people keep donating, but is he *seriously* trying to pretend that only ONE person has ever 'tried it on' at the local Foodbank? Really? [quote] “A lot of the people we see have some sort of medical condition; they may be medically unfit to work, or suffering depression." [/quote] Which means they'll be coining it in on numerous benefits - so why haven't they got money to buy food? ChannelX
  • Score: 9

6:21am Sat 8 Feb 14

mrwoo says...

I have witnessed several people, leave the Savoy to collect their free food returning later. I would say at least 50% are taking the p*ss.
I have witnessed several people, leave the Savoy to collect their free food returning later. I would say at least 50% are taking the p*ss. mrwoo
  • Score: 9

8:22am Sat 8 Feb 14

StillPav says...

I would like to know how over £110 BILLION a year on benefits, yet people still claim they need to use foodbanks.
I would like to know how over £110 BILLION a year on benefits, yet people still claim they need to use foodbanks. StillPav
  • Score: 10

8:44am Sat 8 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

StillPav wrote:
I would like to know how over £110 BILLION a year on benefits, yet people still claim they need to use foodbanks.
It's actually £166 Billion per year.
[quote][p][bold]StillPav[/bold] wrote: I would like to know how over £110 BILLION a year on benefits, yet people still claim they need to use foodbanks.[/p][/quote]It's actually £166 Billion per year. ChannelX
  • Score: 5

9:00am Sat 8 Feb 14

ChаnnelX says...

mrwoo wrote:
I have witnessed several people, leave the Savoy to collect their free food returning later. I would say at least 50% are taking the p*ss.
Are they the ones working behind the bar?
[quote][p][bold]mrwoo[/bold] wrote: I have witnessed several people, leave the Savoy to collect their free food returning later. I would say at least 50% are taking the p*ss.[/p][/quote]Are they the ones working behind the bar? ChаnnelX
  • Score: 0

9:30am Sat 8 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

ChаnnelX wrote:
mrwoo wrote:
I have witnessed several people, leave the Savoy to collect their free food returning later. I would say at least 50% are taking the p*ss.
Are they the ones working behind the bar?
That was quite amusing. I'm actually quite glad you're using my login name.
[quote][p][bold]ChаnnelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrwoo[/bold] wrote: I have witnessed several people, leave the Savoy to collect their free food returning later. I would say at least 50% are taking the p*ss.[/p][/quote]Are they the ones working behind the bar?[/p][/quote]That was quite amusing. I'm actually quite glad you're using my login name. ChannelX
  • Score: 3

10:21am Sat 8 Feb 14

Davey Gravey says...

This vital service for those genuinely in need should not be open to abuse. A sob story to a doctor who will have no idea about a patients financial situation should not be a way to exploit it.
This vital service for those genuinely in need should not be open to abuse. A sob story to a doctor who will have no idea about a patients financial situation should not be a way to exploit it. Davey Gravey
  • Score: -4

10:35am Sat 8 Feb 14

ChаnnelX says...

ChannelX wrote:
ChаnnelX wrote:
mrwoo wrote:
I have witnessed several people, leave the Savoy to collect their free food returning later. I would say at least 50% are taking the p*ss.
Are they the ones working behind the bar?
That was quite amusing. I'm actually quite glad you're using my login name.
I'm NOT using your login name, I'm using my own login name, which, by pure coincidence, just looks a bit like yours.

Isn't it about time you got a new one that doesn't look like mine?, it's becoming VERY tiresome when people think it's me posting when, in fact, it's you.

I'm absolutely sure people know you are just dredging up the same old right-wing guff over and over again but to do it in MY name is frankly shameful.
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChаnnelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrwoo[/bold] wrote: I have witnessed several people, leave the Savoy to collect their free food returning later. I would say at least 50% are taking the p*ss.[/p][/quote]Are they the ones working behind the bar?[/p][/quote]That was quite amusing. I'm actually quite glad you're using my login name.[/p][/quote]I'm NOT using your login name, I'm using my own login name, which, by pure coincidence, just looks a bit like yours. Isn't it about time you got a new one that doesn't look like mine?, it's becoming VERY tiresome when people think it's me posting when, in fact, it's you. I'm absolutely sure people know you are just dredging up the same old right-wing guff over and over again but to do it in MY name is frankly shameful. ChаnnelX
  • Score: -4

11:02am Sat 8 Feb 14

Davey Gravey says...

And the thumb abuse continues. What a saddo
And the thumb abuse continues. What a saddo Davey Gravey
  • Score: -8

11:07am Sat 8 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
And the thumb abuse continues. What a saddo
Don't be so hard on yourself.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: And the thumb abuse continues. What a saddo[/p][/quote]Don't be so hard on yourself. ChannelX
  • Score: 0

11:08am Sat 8 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

ChаnnelX wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
ChаnnelX wrote:
mrwoo wrote:
I have witnessed several people, leave the Savoy to collect their free food returning later. I would say at least 50% are taking the p*ss.
Are they the ones working behind the bar?
That was quite amusing. I'm actually quite glad you're using my login name.
I'm NOT using your login name, I'm using my own login name, which, by pure coincidence, just looks a bit like yours.

Isn't it about time you got a new one that doesn't look like mine?, it's becoming VERY tiresome when people think it's me posting when, in fact, it's you.

I'm absolutely sure people know you are just dredging up the same old right-wing guff over and over again but to do it in MY name is frankly shameful.
You want me to use a new login name so that you can copy that one as well?
[quote][p][bold]ChаnnelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChаnnelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrwoo[/bold] wrote: I have witnessed several people, leave the Savoy to collect their free food returning later. I would say at least 50% are taking the p*ss.[/p][/quote]Are they the ones working behind the bar?[/p][/quote]That was quite amusing. I'm actually quite glad you're using my login name.[/p][/quote]I'm NOT using your login name, I'm using my own login name, which, by pure coincidence, just looks a bit like yours. Isn't it about time you got a new one that doesn't look like mine?, it's becoming VERY tiresome when people think it's me posting when, in fact, it's you. I'm absolutely sure people know you are just dredging up the same old right-wing guff over and over again but to do it in MY name is frankly shameful.[/p][/quote]You want me to use a new login name so that you can copy that one as well? ChannelX
  • Score: -2

11:11am Sat 8 Feb 14

Davey Gravey says...

What a ****. Even cloning your own account now. Mental issues I suspect. Get to the doctor as they have pills for that ailment
What a ****. Even cloning your own account now. Mental issues I suspect. Get to the doctor as they have pills for that ailment Davey Gravey
  • Score: -3

11:15am Sat 8 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
What a ****. Even cloning your own account now. Mental issues I suspect. Get to the doctor as they have pills for that ailment
Why would I clone my *own* account? Seriously, what is your problem? You're obsessed with 'thumb fiddling' and now seem to think I would 'clone' my OWN account.

What's wrong with you?
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: What a ****. Even cloning your own account now. Mental issues I suspect. Get to the doctor as they have pills for that ailment[/p][/quote]Why would I clone my *own* account? Seriously, what is your problem? You're obsessed with 'thumb fiddling' and now seem to think I would 'clone' my OWN account. What's wrong with you? ChannelX
  • Score: 4

11:16am Sat 8 Feb 14

Davey Gravey says...

Or sectioning might be required as your case does seem a severe one .
Or sectioning might be required as your case does seem a severe one . Davey Gravey
  • Score: -4

11:18am Sat 8 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Or sectioning might be required as your case does seem a severe one .
Yup, had enough of you now. Your post has been reported.

And to think YOU claim to be 'bullied' on here. Amazing.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Or sectioning might be required as your case does seem a severe one .[/p][/quote]Yup, had enough of you now. Your post has been reported. And to think YOU claim to be 'bullied' on here. Amazing. ChannelX
  • Score: 5

11:20am Sat 8 Feb 14

Davey Gravey says...

If I'm obsessed with thumb fiddling why do you tamper with them?
I highlight it as you the nutcase desperately up vote your posts and down vote others loads of times. Loony
If I'm obsessed with thumb fiddling why do you tamper with them? I highlight it as you the nutcase desperately up vote your posts and down vote others loads of times. Loony Davey Gravey
  • Score: -5

11:20am Sat 8 Feb 14

Hmmmf says...

The church has been doling out free food since the 'miracle' of the loaves and fishes, and it's nice that churches and other 'social organisations' have resurrected the tradition. It's christian charity after all and isn't costing the taxpayer. What isn't very christian is the god-botherers spouting that their hand-outs are some kind of 'social barometer' and 'proof' that austerity is devastating vast sections of the 'vulnerable' community. Neither is true. Nor is it very christian to dump extra workload on public servants who *do* cost the taxpayer. If there is no requirement for 'means testing' claimants as the project manager implies in his comments about GPs, why rely on other organisations to 'filter' claimants at all? Jesus didn't.
The church has been doling out free food since the 'miracle' of the loaves and fishes, and it's nice that churches and other 'social organisations' have resurrected the tradition. It's christian charity after all and isn't costing the taxpayer. What isn't very christian is the god-botherers spouting that their hand-outs are some kind of 'social barometer' and 'proof' that austerity is devastating vast sections of the 'vulnerable' community. Neither is true. Nor is it very christian to dump extra workload on public servants who *do* cost the taxpayer. If there is no requirement for 'means testing' claimants as the project manager implies in his comments about GPs, why rely on other organisations to 'filter' claimants at all? Jesus didn't. Hmmmf
  • Score: 8

11:22am Sat 8 Feb 14

Davey Gravey says...

ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Or sectioning might be required as your case does seem a severe one .
Yup, had enough of you now. Your post has been reported.

And to think YOU claim to be 'bullied' on here. Amazing.
Good. About time they looked into it.
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Or sectioning might be required as your case does seem a severe one .[/p][/quote]Yup, had enough of you now. Your post has been reported. And to think YOU claim to be 'bullied' on here. Amazing.[/p][/quote]Good. About time they looked into it. Davey Gravey
  • Score: -2

11:22am Sat 8 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
If I'm obsessed with thumb fiddling why do you tamper with them?
I highlight it as you the nutcase desperately up vote your posts and down vote others loads of times. Loony
Your post, as per usual, makes absolutely no sense.

You ARE obsessed with counting votes and 'thumb fiddling' despite nobody actually even doing it. I have NO idea why you're obsessed with it - do you know why you are?
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: If I'm obsessed with thumb fiddling why do you tamper with them? I highlight it as you the nutcase desperately up vote your posts and down vote others loads of times. Loony[/p][/quote]Your post, as per usual, makes absolutely no sense. You ARE obsessed with counting votes and 'thumb fiddling' despite nobody actually even doing it. I have NO idea why you're obsessed with it - do you know why you are? ChannelX
  • Score: -1

11:24am Sat 8 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Or sectioning might be required as your case does seem a severe one .
Yup, had enough of you now. Your post has been reported.

And to think YOU claim to be 'bullied' on here. Amazing.
Good. About time they looked into it.
About time they banned your account more like. You've got away with far too much for far too long.

Hopefully not for much longer.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Or sectioning might be required as your case does seem a severe one .[/p][/quote]Yup, had enough of you now. Your post has been reported. And to think YOU claim to be 'bullied' on here. Amazing.[/p][/quote]Good. About time they looked into it.[/p][/quote]About time they banned your account more like. You've got away with far too much for far too long. Hopefully not for much longer. ChannelX
  • Score: -3

11:25am Sat 8 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

And congratulations on ruining yet another thread.
And congratulations on ruining yet another thread. ChannelX
  • Score: 2

11:28am Sat 8 Feb 14

Davey Gravey says...

You're doing it right now. Its hilarious really. Go on give this the thumbs down quick quick
You're doing it right now. Its hilarious really. Go on give this the thumbs down quick quick Davey Gravey
  • Score: 2

11:30am Sat 8 Feb 14

Davey Gravey says...

ChannelX wrote:
And congratulations on ruining yet another thread.
Stop talking to yourself
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: And congratulations on ruining yet another thread.[/p][/quote]Stop talking to yourself Davey Gravey
  • Score: -2

11:50am Sat 8 Feb 14

ChаnnelX says...

Look Mr Gravey, I've had just about enough of this nonsense and I'm going to get you thrown off this forum if it's the last thing I do - you are LITERALLY RUINING my soap-box and I will NOT allow it to go on.
Look Mr Gravey, I've had just about enough of this nonsense and I'm going to get you thrown off this forum if it's the last thing I do - you are LITERALLY RUINING my soap-box and I will NOT allow it to go on. ChаnnelX
  • Score: 0

11:53am Sat 8 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
And congratulations on ruining yet another thread.
Stop talking to yourself
Look back on this thread... it was YOU who chimed in with your usual baseless and inaccurate accusations.

AS USUAL.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: And congratulations on ruining yet another thread.[/p][/quote]Stop talking to yourself[/p][/quote]Look back on this thread... it was YOU who chimed in with your usual baseless and inaccurate accusations. AS USUAL. ChannelX
  • Score: -6

12:29pm Sat 8 Feb 14

Davey Gravey says...

By 6 votes at a time. Good work
By 6 votes at a time. Good work Davey Gravey
  • Score: 0

4:34pm Sat 8 Feb 14

Davey Gravey says...

ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
And congratulations on ruining yet another thread.
Stop talking to yourself
Look back on this thread... it was YOU who chimed in with your usual baseless and inaccurate accusations.

AS USUAL.
Look back at many threads.
I've made a comment, you've then given it multiple thumbs down then replied without provocation a ridiculous rant or insult at me. Usually containing labour somewhere in it.
There are plenty to choose from. You have had a vendetta against me for months and I will not just lie down and take it. I'll go head on and fight it.
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: And congratulations on ruining yet another thread.[/p][/quote]Stop talking to yourself[/p][/quote]Look back on this thread... it was YOU who chimed in with your usual baseless and inaccurate accusations. AS USUAL.[/p][/quote]Look back at many threads. I've made a comment, you've then given it multiple thumbs down then replied without provocation a ridiculous rant or insult at me. Usually containing labour somewhere in it. There are plenty to choose from. You have had a vendetta against me for months and I will not just lie down and take it. I'll go head on and fight it. Davey Gravey
  • Score: -1

5:05pm Sun 9 Feb 14

house on the hill says...

Hmmmf wrote:
The church has been doling out free food since the 'miracle' of the loaves and fishes, and it's nice that churches and other 'social organisations' have resurrected the tradition. It's christian charity after all and isn't costing the taxpayer. What isn't very christian is the god-botherers spouting that their hand-outs are some kind of 'social barometer' and 'proof' that austerity is devastating vast sections of the 'vulnerable' community. Neither is true. Nor is it very christian to dump extra workload on public servants who *do* cost the taxpayer. If there is no requirement for 'means testing' claimants as the project manager implies in his comments about GPs, why rely on other organisations to 'filter' claimants at all? Jesus didn't.
Who?...
[quote][p][bold]Hmmmf[/bold] wrote: The church has been doling out free food since the 'miracle' of the loaves and fishes, and it's nice that churches and other 'social organisations' have resurrected the tradition. It's christian charity after all and isn't costing the taxpayer. What isn't very christian is the god-botherers spouting that their hand-outs are some kind of 'social barometer' and 'proof' that austerity is devastating vast sections of the 'vulnerable' community. Neither is true. Nor is it very christian to dump extra workload on public servants who *do* cost the taxpayer. If there is no requirement for 'means testing' claimants as the project manager implies in his comments about GPs, why rely on other organisations to 'filter' claimants at all? Jesus didn't.[/p][/quote]Who?... house on the hill
  • Score: 0

5:12pm Sun 9 Feb 14

house on the hill says...

Why is it so many need some fantasy religion to be nice, why can't they just be nice because they want rather than because they are told they should be by some fairy stories. And as others have said they get blinded by this " kindness" and lose touch with all reality. I would agree probably 50% don't need it but either con them or just have no idea how to budget and put fags and booze before food. I have never had a problem helping those in genuine need but I am getting very fed up with those who choose not to help themselves or blatently lie and cheat.
Why is it so many need some fantasy religion to be nice, why can't they just be nice because they want rather than because they are told they should be by some fairy stories. And as others have said they get blinded by this " kindness" and lose touch with all reality. I would agree probably 50% don't need it but either con them or just have no idea how to budget and put fags and booze before food. I have never had a problem helping those in genuine need but I am getting very fed up with those who choose not to help themselves or blatently lie and cheat. house on the hill
  • Score: 0

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