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BARRIE HUDSON: What a wheelie daft idea

AT the last count, about 14,000 wheelie bins bought in for the new green waste paid-for collection scheme remain unclaimed.

That translates as £200,000 or more of your cash and mine.

A total of 16,600 were ordered by the local authority on the basis of a survey suggesting 15 per cent of people would take part in the scheme.

The funny thing about surveys, though, is that when people fill them in they don’t always tell the absolute truth, even if they fervently believe they’re telling the truth at the time. They might say, for example, that they’re willing to cough up for a service, only to realise later on that there are cheaper, easier alternatives.

Something else about surveys is that the people who believe taking part is worth the effort do not always represent the views of the rest. The only true survey, in fact, is one in which every person in a randomly-chosen group is obliged to take part.

These phenomena are very well documented and have been for years, so I hope whoever was in charge of ordering those bins took it into account when coming up with a number. If they didn’t, I hope they made the purchase on a sale-or-return basis.

Otherwise, they’ll either have to offload them on eBay or come up with an alternative use to justify the added expense caused by what was intended as a money-saving measure.

Perhaps the bins could be filled with ice and used to chill all that Evian served to visitors.

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8:34am Tue 25 Feb 14

Nostim says...

Yet another waste of taxpayers money just like the Wi-Fi fiasco,

More money in someones pocket. This useless council must go
Yet another waste of taxpayers money just like the Wi-Fi fiasco, More money in someones pocket. This useless council must go Nostim
  • Score: 11

9:32am Tue 25 Feb 14

The Zax says...

Has Barrie put the questions raised in his article to the local authority? Surely it would be better journalism to seek the facts rather than rely upon conjecture and surmise.
Has Barrie put the questions raised in his article to the local authority? Surely it would be better journalism to seek the facts rather than rely upon conjecture and surmise. The Zax
  • Score: -2

9:38am Tue 25 Feb 14

Davey Gravey says...

Instead of just moaning about the god awful people making a mess of our town, take the time to go and vote them out in May. Currently that is the only way to get change. I can only hope there are decent people waiting to take over
Instead of just moaning about the god awful people making a mess of our town, take the time to go and vote them out in May. Currently that is the only way to get change. I can only hope there are decent people waiting to take over Davey Gravey
  • Score: 14

9:46am Tue 25 Feb 14

Morsey says...

In the survey, we said that since the Tories are admitting that it is in fact a Council Tax rise by the back door, we would buy one for each of our properties, and we haven't as yet. Why ... it's only February, why put money into this administration's bank account weeks before the operation is set to begin?
Could they not have spread the cost via the collection of Council tax ... NO ... because for some unknown reason the forty quid is a back door payment via the operation at 'the tip'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!
In the survey, we said that since the Tories are admitting that it is in fact a Council Tax rise by the back door, we would buy one for each of our properties, and we haven't as yet. Why ... it's only February, why put money into this administration's bank account weeks before the operation is set to begin? Could they not have spread the cost via the collection of Council tax ... NO ... because for some unknown reason the forty quid is a back door payment via the operation at 'the tip'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! Morsey
  • Score: 0

10:57am Tue 25 Feb 14

stratton man says...

This spendthrift Tory Council is out of control.Under the financial control of the hapless Cllr Russell Holland they have borrowed an additional 20 million pounds in the last 12 months.This madness must stop.Vote UKIP in the local elections in May.
This spendthrift Tory Council is out of control.Under the financial control of the hapless Cllr Russell Holland they have borrowed an additional 20 million pounds in the last 12 months.This madness must stop.Vote UKIP in the local elections in May. stratton man
  • Score: 1

11:00am Tue 25 Feb 14

The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man says...

stratton man wrote:
This spendthrift Tory Council is out of control.Under the financial control of the hapless Cllr Russell Holland they have borrowed an additional 20 million pounds in the last 12 months.This madness must stop.Vote UKIP in the local elections in May.
Aside from the fact that it is unlikely I'll have a UKIP candidate in my area, how will that actually help?
[quote][p][bold]stratton man[/bold] wrote: This spendthrift Tory Council is out of control.Under the financial control of the hapless Cllr Russell Holland they have borrowed an additional 20 million pounds in the last 12 months.This madness must stop.Vote UKIP in the local elections in May.[/p][/quote]Aside from the fact that it is unlikely I'll have a UKIP candidate in my area, how will that actually help? The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man
  • Score: 2

1:26pm Tue 25 Feb 14

back_to_reality says...

I just hope everyone remembers which fu**wit 'masterminded' this fiasco and sneaky council tax rise at voting time - 70's throwback and professional retard Richard Hurley.
I just hope everyone remembers which fu**wit 'masterminded' this fiasco and sneaky council tax rise at voting time - 70's throwback and professional retard Richard Hurley. back_to_reality
  • Score: 10

1:47pm Tue 25 Feb 14

house on the hill says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Instead of just moaning about the god awful people making a mess of our town, take the time to go and vote them out in May. Currently that is the only way to get change. I can only hope there are decent people waiting to take over
I think it is the system that is broken and the whole public sector is run so inefficiently it isnt any wonder its such a mess, You could put a Ferrari engine in a clapped out wreck with no wheels and it still wouldn't go anywhere. we are talking about a near £200million a year business and yet its run by people who are elected without any need for ability or experience, too many of whom have their own personal agenda's anyway and we wonder why it never works and we go from one bunch of idiots back to another and so on.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Instead of just moaning about the god awful people making a mess of our town, take the time to go and vote them out in May. Currently that is the only way to get change. I can only hope there are decent people waiting to take over[/p][/quote]I think it is the system that is broken and the whole public sector is run so inefficiently it isnt any wonder its such a mess, You could put a Ferrari engine in a clapped out wreck with no wheels and it still wouldn't go anywhere. we are talking about a near £200million a year business and yet its run by people who are elected without any need for ability or experience, too many of whom have their own personal agenda's anyway and we wonder why it never works and we go from one bunch of idiots back to another and so on. house on the hill
  • Score: 3

2:36pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Davey Gravey says...

stratton man wrote:
This spendthrift Tory Council is out of control.Under the financial control of the hapless Cllr Russell Holland they have borrowed an additional 20 million pounds in the last 12 months.This madness must stop.Vote UKIP in the local elections in May.
Out of the frying pan into the fire. No thank you. We need independents to rattle the main parties up.
[quote][p][bold]stratton man[/bold] wrote: This spendthrift Tory Council is out of control.Under the financial control of the hapless Cllr Russell Holland they have borrowed an additional 20 million pounds in the last 12 months.This madness must stop.Vote UKIP in the local elections in May.[/p][/quote]Out of the frying pan into the fire. No thank you. We need independents to rattle the main parties up. Davey Gravey
  • Score: 3

4:15pm Tue 25 Feb 14

The Real Librarian says...

The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man wrote:
stratton man wrote: This spendthrift Tory Council is out of control.Under the financial control of the hapless Cllr Russell Holland they have borrowed an additional 20 million pounds in the last 12 months.This madness must stop.Vote UKIP in the local elections in May.
Aside from the fact that it is unlikely I'll have a UKIP candidate in my area, how will that actually help?
it is unlikely I'll have a UKIP candidate in my area,


So stand
[quote][p][bold]The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stratton man[/bold] wrote: This spendthrift Tory Council is out of control.Under the financial control of the hapless Cllr Russell Holland they have borrowed an additional 20 million pounds in the last 12 months.This madness must stop.Vote UKIP in the local elections in May.[/p][/quote]Aside from the fact that it is unlikely I'll have a UKIP candidate in my area, how will that actually help?[/p][/quote]it is unlikely I'll have a UKIP candidate in my area, So stand The Real Librarian
  • Score: 3

10:16pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Phantom Poster says...

I don't understand why they would think that people would pick up green waste bins in February - who has gardening waste at this time of year? I will probably need one - if so I'll get it in the spring.
I don't understand why they would think that people would pick up green waste bins in February - who has gardening waste at this time of year? I will probably need one - if so I'll get it in the spring. Phantom Poster
  • Score: -3

10:31pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Phantom Poster says...

Barrie Hudson said.....
"The only true survey, in fact, is one in which every person in a randomly-chosen group is obliged to take part."

How would that be a "true" survey? If you force people to take part in a survey then you skew the results as they will likely resent it (probably giving deliberately incorrect/controvers
ial answers) or be disinterested and give random answers (e.g. answer 'A' to each multiple choice question).
Barrie Hudson said..... "The only true survey, in fact, is one in which every person in a randomly-chosen group is obliged to take part." How would that be a "true" survey? If you force people to take part in a survey then you skew the results as they will likely resent it (probably giving deliberately incorrect/controvers ial answers) or be disinterested and give random answers (e.g. answer 'A' to each multiple choice question). Phantom Poster
  • Score: -2

9:10am Wed 26 Feb 14

The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man says...

The Real Librarian wrote:
The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man wrote:
stratton man wrote: This spendthrift Tory Council is out of control.Under the financial control of the hapless Cllr Russell Holland they have borrowed an additional 20 million pounds in the last 12 months.This madness must stop.Vote UKIP in the local elections in May.
Aside from the fact that it is unlikely I'll have a UKIP candidate in my area, how will that actually help?
it is unlikely I'll have a UKIP candidate in my area,


So stand
Why would I want to do that?
[quote][p][bold]The Real Librarian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stratton man[/bold] wrote: This spendthrift Tory Council is out of control.Under the financial control of the hapless Cllr Russell Holland they have borrowed an additional 20 million pounds in the last 12 months.This madness must stop.Vote UKIP in the local elections in May.[/p][/quote]Aside from the fact that it is unlikely I'll have a UKIP candidate in my area, how will that actually help?[/p][/quote]it is unlikely I'll have a UKIP candidate in my area, So stand[/p][/quote]Why would I want to do that? The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man
  • Score: -2

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