Pay up to get rid of green waste

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COUNCILLORS signed off on a council tax freeze and controversial green waste charges while rubber stamping Swindon Council’s budget for the next financial year.

It was confirmed as expected that the council tax will remain at its current level for the next twelve months, while the green waste charge will also be implemented from April.

There were heated discussions at a late night meeting on Monday as Labour attempted to pass an amendment to stop the charge, which will see households having to pay an annual fee of £40, but it did not pass as the Tory administration did not feel it had been costed properly.

Council leader David Renard (Con, Haydon Wick) said the council was forced to look at how it delivered certain services.

He said it was faced with a reduction in central grants, inflationary costs and the rising demand for children and adult services, which makes up for a third of the £142 million budget.

“We have certain things which as a council we have to provide so in the face of this triple whammy we have to make difficult decisions,” said Coun Renard.

“In terms of the 2013/14 budget I am delighted we have been able to keep council tax frozen for a fourth straight year as we aware of the rising living costs people face.

“As a council though we have to think about the long term. If there was a way we could have avoided the green waste charge we would have done so.

“There was a paid service until 2006 and we have been lucky that up until now we have been able to continue with that. Local authorities up and down the country have either brought in this change or are looking to do so.

“We cannot keep holding back the Swindon tide.”

There is a possibility that some changes will be brought in after it was decided to look at whether properties in Eastcott and the town centre would have a different service as it is not practical for them to have a green bin.

Following the meeting, the Labour Group expressed their frustration that their amendment was not supported.

Group leader Coun Jim Grant (Lab, Rodbourne Cheney) said: “I am disappointed that the Lib Dems and Conservatives did not support our plan but most of all I am disappointed for the people of Swindon.

“The long term future of Swindon should be decided by the people of Swindon. The danger with politicians deciding is that we end up with £15m car parks and money lost on Wi-fi projects. Green waste is something which is already paid for in council tax.”

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8:35am Wed 26 Feb 14

nobody says...

Why are they so obsessed with freezing council tax?, any intelligent person will realise it just means cutting back on or special charges for services.
Why are they so obsessed with freezing council tax?, any intelligent person will realise it just means cutting back on or special charges for services. nobody

9:45am Wed 26 Feb 14

candid friend says...

The money squandered-in dubious circumstances-on the crazy Wi-Fi scheme would have paid for an awful lot of green rubbish collections.
Now we will see these items being dumped on the roadside because people are unable, or unwilling, to pay the charge.
The money squandered-in dubious circumstances-on the crazy Wi-Fi scheme would have paid for an awful lot of green rubbish collections. Now we will see these items being dumped on the roadside because people are unable, or unwilling, to pay the charge. candid friend

9:59am Wed 26 Feb 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

After years of asking for recycle bags and not having any replies at all.
There is now an optional charge where SBC are committed to improving the service? That is a pretty strange statement to make when they discounted the first years service to £40 so costings have been assessed? How can they say that improvements will be made but not say which or what will happen when cost have been arranged.
What is the extra money for?

£301 million a year to run Swindon?
£850,000 for recycling?

If people do not wish to take this optional service are they asked to put all waste into the same bin/bag?
After years of asking for recycle bags and not having any replies at all. There is now an optional charge where SBC are committed to improving the service? That is a pretty strange statement to make when they discounted the first years service to £40 so costings have been assessed? How can they say that improvements will be made but not say which or what will happen when cost have been arranged. What is the extra money for? £301 million a year to run Swindon? £850,000 for recycling? If people do not wish to take this optional service are they asked to put all waste into the same bin/bag? Badgersgetabadname

10:25am Wed 26 Feb 14

A.Baron-Cohen says...

It fair to ask those who need a service to pay for it, if you have a garden and generate green waste then you have the option to sort it out yourself for free or pay a fee, why should all taxpayers pay for non essential green waste collections.
It fair to ask those who need a service to pay for it, if you have a garden and generate green waste then you have the option to sort it out yourself for free or pay a fee, why should all taxpayers pay for non essential green waste collections. A.Baron-Cohen

10:34am Wed 26 Feb 14

Spadtrap says...

They should be fixing our pot holed roads instead of wasting money on pointless green stuff that no gives a toss about, and put more parking spaces in Stubsmead like we were promised, and you vote for these idiots!!!!
They should be fixing our pot holed roads instead of wasting money on pointless green stuff that no gives a toss about, and put more parking spaces in Stubsmead like we were promised, and you vote for these idiots!!!! Spadtrap

10:55am Wed 26 Feb 14

Davey Gravey says...

The Tories need removing asap before they destroy everything. Funny how there is money to waste on useless ego boosting schemes that go tits up or are not needed. Take the time to vote in May and remove them !
The Tories need removing asap before they destroy everything. Funny how there is money to waste on useless ego boosting schemes that go tits up or are not needed. Take the time to vote in May and remove them ! Davey Gravey

10:56am Wed 26 Feb 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
It fair to ask those who need a service to pay for it, if you have a garden and generate green waste then you have the option to sort it out yourself for free or pay a fee, why should all taxpayers pay for non essential green waste collections.
You know Green waste is all recyclable waste rather than physically colored green waste?
Plastic bottles etc...I take it you currently do no recycling?
[quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: It fair to ask those who need a service to pay for it, if you have a garden and generate green waste then you have the option to sort it out yourself for free or pay a fee, why should all taxpayers pay for non essential green waste collections.[/p][/quote]You know Green waste is all recyclable waste rather than physically colored green waste? Plastic bottles etc...I take it you currently do no recycling? Badgersgetabadname

11:02am Wed 26 Feb 14

Angry Swindon says...

Easy burn all the waste in your garden, save the money!
Easy burn all the waste in your garden, save the money! Angry Swindon

11:11am Wed 26 Feb 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
The Tories need removing asap before they destroy everything. Funny how there is money to waste on useless ego boosting schemes that go tits up or are not needed. Take the time to vote in May and remove them !
It all needs to be changed. There is no alternative government at the moment all businesses are looking after their own interests this is nothing new.

One side wants to take all of our money and the other wants to give it away.
We all sit in the middle arguing kidding ourselves that our vote even counts.

I think the ECO battle is something we should all take an interest in but this just seems to be another tax or cost we the public are being asked to shoulder.
I wonder what the cost of setting this up was? research, comparisons to similar set ups?
They do that dont they? or was this just thought up on a Friday afternoon.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: The Tories need removing asap before they destroy everything. Funny how there is money to waste on useless ego boosting schemes that go tits up or are not needed. Take the time to vote in May and remove them ![/p][/quote]It all needs to be changed. There is no alternative government at the moment all businesses are looking after their own interests this is nothing new. One side wants to take all of our money and the other wants to give it away. We all sit in the middle arguing kidding ourselves that our vote even counts. I think the ECO battle is something we should all take an interest in but this just seems to be another tax or cost we the public are being asked to shoulder. I wonder what the cost of setting this up was? research, comparisons to similar set ups? They do that dont they? or was this just thought up on a Friday afternoon. Badgersgetabadname

11:23am Wed 26 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
The Tories need removing asap before they destroy everything. Funny how there is money to waste on useless ego boosting schemes that go tits up or are not needed. Take the time to vote in May and remove them !
Who do you hope to see running the town in their place, Davey?

It won't be independents, so no point responding with that.

So, who?
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: The Tories need removing asap before they destroy everything. Funny how there is money to waste on useless ego boosting schemes that go tits up or are not needed. Take the time to vote in May and remove them ![/p][/quote]Who do you hope to see running the town in their place, Davey? It won't be independents, so no point responding with that. So, who? ChannelX

11:24am Wed 26 Feb 14

A.Baron-Cohen says...

Badgersgetabadname wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
It fair to ask those who need a service to pay for it, if you have a garden and generate green waste then you have the option to sort it out yourself for free or pay a fee, why should all taxpayers pay for non essential green waste collections.
You know Green waste is all recyclable waste rather than physically colored green waste?
Plastic bottles etc...I take it you currently do no recycling?
The green waste collection which is an optional service, it collects Green Garden waste, the charge is £40/ year.
I sort my garden waste myself and always have been, if and when I am unable to deal with my garden waste, I would subscribe to the collection service, I do not expect you or others to fit the bill for myself.
Thank you.
[quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: It fair to ask those who need a service to pay for it, if you have a garden and generate green waste then you have the option to sort it out yourself for free or pay a fee, why should all taxpayers pay for non essential green waste collections.[/p][/quote]You know Green waste is all recyclable waste rather than physically colored green waste? Plastic bottles etc...I take it you currently do no recycling?[/p][/quote]The green waste collection which is an optional service, it collects Green Garden waste, the charge is £40/ year. I sort my garden waste myself and always have been, if and when I am unable to deal with my garden waste, I would subscribe to the collection service, I do not expect you or others to fit the bill for myself. Thank you. A.Baron-Cohen

11:28am Wed 26 Feb 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Angry Swindon wrote:
Easy burn all the waste in your garden, save the money!
This is exactly what will happen.
potentially creating a bigger environmental issue.
What other options have been given to people?
Most will just put more into the blue bags.
[quote][p][bold]Angry Swindon[/bold] wrote: Easy burn all the waste in your garden, save the money![/p][/quote]This is exactly what will happen. potentially creating a bigger environmental issue. What other options have been given to people? Most will just put more into the blue bags. Badgersgetabadname

11:31am Wed 26 Feb 14

fuzzey says...

Green waste is already charged for in the council tax .won't they be legally obliged to collect it if we put it in our black bins ??or alternatively give us a refund ?
Green waste is already charged for in the council tax .won't they be legally obliged to collect it if we put it in our black bins ??or alternatively give us a refund ? fuzzey

11:40am Wed 26 Feb 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
It fair to ask those who need a service to pay for it, if you have a garden and generate green waste then you have the option to sort it out yourself for free or pay a fee, why should all taxpayers pay for non essential green waste collections.
You know Green waste is all recyclable waste rather than physically colored green waste?
Plastic bottles etc...I take it you currently do no recycling?
The green waste collection which is an optional service, it collects Green Garden waste, the charge is £40/ year.
I sort my garden waste myself and always have been, if and when I am unable to deal with my garden waste, I would subscribe to the collection service, I do not expect you or others to fit the bill for myself.
Thank you.
Quite right if it is something you only do sporadically then taking it to the council depo wouldnt be a problem. Great to hear you are so responsible well done you.
[quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: It fair to ask those who need a service to pay for it, if you have a garden and generate green waste then you have the option to sort it out yourself for free or pay a fee, why should all taxpayers pay for non essential green waste collections.[/p][/quote]You know Green waste is all recyclable waste rather than physically colored green waste? Plastic bottles etc...I take it you currently do no recycling?[/p][/quote]The green waste collection which is an optional service, it collects Green Garden waste, the charge is £40/ year. I sort my garden waste myself and always have been, if and when I am unable to deal with my garden waste, I would subscribe to the collection service, I do not expect you or others to fit the bill for myself. Thank you.[/p][/quote]Quite right if it is something you only do sporadically then taking it to the council depo wouldnt be a problem. Great to hear you are so responsible well done you. Badgersgetabadname

11:45am Wed 26 Feb 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
The Tories need removing asap before they destroy everything. Funny how there is money to waste on useless ego boosting schemes that go tits up or are not needed. Take the time to vote in May and remove them !
Who do you hope to see running the town in their place, Davey?

It won't be independents, so no point responding with that.

So, who?
It is wrong the system is biased to the business that it is supporting there are many examples of this.
There is no alternative at the moment there must be changes made at base levels.
I know it would be easier just to carry on as it is but for those who arent just waiting to die the future must be a priority?
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: The Tories need removing asap before they destroy everything. Funny how there is money to waste on useless ego boosting schemes that go tits up or are not needed. Take the time to vote in May and remove them ![/p][/quote]Who do you hope to see running the town in their place, Davey? It won't be independents, so no point responding with that. So, who?[/p][/quote]It is wrong the system is biased to the business that it is supporting there are many examples of this. There is no alternative at the moment there must be changes made at base levels. I know it would be easier just to carry on as it is but for those who arent just waiting to die the future must be a priority? Badgersgetabadname

11:47am Wed 26 Feb 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

fuzzey wrote:
Green waste is already charged for in the council tax .won't they be legally obliged to collect it if we put it in our black bins ??or alternatively give us a refund ?
No refunds available, no opt out....just agree to it now and we will make an effort to improve the service.
[quote][p][bold]fuzzey[/bold] wrote: Green waste is already charged for in the council tax .won't they be legally obliged to collect it if we put it in our black bins ??or alternatively give us a refund ?[/p][/quote]No refunds available, no opt out....just agree to it now and we will make an effort to improve the service. Badgersgetabadname

11:57am Wed 26 Feb 14

madreeves says...

The problem I see happening is those who buy the bins will put them out as normal. There will be those that haven't that will do a night time flit to the nearest neighbour and either put it in their bin or (more likely) just dump it next to it. The Council won't collect if it's not in a bin so the poor neighbour is left with someone else's green waste to deal with. I can foresee this happening as there's a guy in my street who runs a gardening business and, throughout the summer, he piles up at least a dozen or more bags at a time on his driveway which have been collected up until now. I have no problem with this: he's working in Swindon so it's just moving the waste from one location to another. However, where is he going to dispose of it now? He obviously doesn't want to use the tip as he'll be charged as a business. I can see this generating a lot of bad feeling. Perhaps the Council could agree to at least collect the green bins no earlier than 9.00 am so at least those who have bought can put them out during daylight?
The problem I see happening is those who buy the bins will put them out as normal. There will be those that haven't that will do a night time flit to the nearest neighbour and either put it in their bin or (more likely) just dump it next to it. The Council won't collect if it's not in a bin so the poor neighbour is left with someone else's green waste to deal with. I can foresee this happening as there's a guy in my street who runs a gardening business and, throughout the summer, he piles up at least a dozen or more bags at a time on his driveway which have been collected up until now. I have no problem with this: he's working in Swindon so it's just moving the waste from one location to another. However, where is he going to dispose of it now? He obviously doesn't want to use the tip as he'll be charged as a business. I can see this generating a lot of bad feeling. Perhaps the Council could agree to at least collect the green bins no earlier than 9.00 am so at least those who have bought can put them out during daylight? madreeves

11:59am Wed 26 Feb 14

house on the hill says...

candid friend wrote:
The money squandered-in dubious circumstances-on the crazy Wi-Fi scheme would have paid for an awful lot of green rubbish collections.
Now we will see these items being dumped on the roadside because people are unable, or unwilling, to pay the charge.
The Wifi money is a drop in the ocean compared to how much they waste every day with out of date working practices, duplication of processes and staff who can't or wont change or just dont have a clue. If they ran the Council as they should they could provide the service we should be having without any need to raise tax. Thats the real scandal.
[quote][p][bold]candid friend[/bold] wrote: The money squandered-in dubious circumstances-on the crazy Wi-Fi scheme would have paid for an awful lot of green rubbish collections. Now we will see these items being dumped on the roadside because people are unable, or unwilling, to pay the charge.[/p][/quote]The Wifi money is a drop in the ocean compared to how much they waste every day with out of date working practices, duplication of processes and staff who can't or wont change or just dont have a clue. If they ran the Council as they should they could provide the service we should be having without any need to raise tax. Thats the real scandal. house on the hill

12:00pm Wed 26 Feb 14

The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man says...

madreeves wrote:
The problem I see happening is those who buy the bins will put them out as normal. There will be those that haven't that will do a night time flit to the nearest neighbour and either put it in their bin or (more likely) just dump it next to it. The Council won't collect if it's not in a bin so the poor neighbour is left with someone else's green waste to deal with. I can foresee this happening as there's a guy in my street who runs a gardening business and, throughout the summer, he piles up at least a dozen or more bags at a time on his driveway which have been collected up until now. I have no problem with this: he's working in Swindon so it's just moving the waste from one location to another. However, where is he going to dispose of it now? He obviously doesn't want to use the tip as he'll be charged as a business. I can see this generating a lot of bad feeling. Perhaps the Council could agree to at least collect the green bins no earlier than 9.00 am so at least those who have bought can put them out during daylight?
So he doesn't want to pay for his business waste disposal in a correct manner? Poor him, surprised he hasn't already been rumbled for doing this actually!.
[quote][p][bold]madreeves[/bold] wrote: The problem I see happening is those who buy the bins will put them out as normal. There will be those that haven't that will do a night time flit to the nearest neighbour and either put it in their bin or (more likely) just dump it next to it. The Council won't collect if it's not in a bin so the poor neighbour is left with someone else's green waste to deal with. I can foresee this happening as there's a guy in my street who runs a gardening business and, throughout the summer, he piles up at least a dozen or more bags at a time on his driveway which have been collected up until now. I have no problem with this: he's working in Swindon so it's just moving the waste from one location to another. However, where is he going to dispose of it now? He obviously doesn't want to use the tip as he'll be charged as a business. I can see this generating a lot of bad feeling. Perhaps the Council could agree to at least collect the green bins no earlier than 9.00 am so at least those who have bought can put them out during daylight?[/p][/quote]So he doesn't want to pay for his business waste disposal in a correct manner? Poor him, surprised he hasn't already been rumbled for doing this actually!. The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man

12:01pm Wed 26 Feb 14

stratton man says...

I believe that Richard Symonds who is running as an Independent Councillor in Shaw ward would do an excellent job in holding the main parties to account.As he is running against our current Mayors wife he has a strong chance of winning.
I believe that Richard Symonds who is running as an Independent Councillor in Shaw ward would do an excellent job in holding the main parties to account.As he is running against our current Mayors wife he has a strong chance of winning. stratton man

12:49pm Wed 26 Feb 14

ChannelX says...

stratton man wrote:
I believe that Richard Symonds who is running as an Independent Councillor in Shaw ward would do an excellent job in holding the main parties to account.As he is running against our current Mayors wife he has a strong chance of winning.
You're a Talk Swindon regular, then?
[quote][p][bold]stratton man[/bold] wrote: I believe that Richard Symonds who is running as an Independent Councillor in Shaw ward would do an excellent job in holding the main parties to account.As he is running against our current Mayors wife he has a strong chance of winning.[/p][/quote]You're a Talk Swindon regular, then? ChannelX

12:52pm Wed 26 Feb 14

house on the hill says...

stratton man wrote:
I believe that Richard Symonds who is running as an Independent Councillor in Shaw ward would do an excellent job in holding the main parties to account.As he is running against our current Mayors wife he has a strong chance of winning.
And how will he do that when in a minority then?
[quote][p][bold]stratton man[/bold] wrote: I believe that Richard Symonds who is running as an Independent Councillor in Shaw ward would do an excellent job in holding the main parties to account.As he is running against our current Mayors wife he has a strong chance of winning.[/p][/quote]And how will he do that when in a minority then? house on the hill

1:11pm Wed 26 Feb 14

stratton man says...

House I believe one good man can make a difference.History has shown us that.
House I believe one good man can make a difference.History has shown us that. stratton man

1:14pm Wed 26 Feb 14

stratton man says...

Channelx. I have never posted on Talkswindon.More fun with the loons and malcontents who haunt this forum.
Channelx. I have never posted on Talkswindon.More fun with the loons and malcontents who haunt this forum. stratton man

1:51pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

stratton man wrote:
Channelx. I have never posted on Talkswindon.More fun with the loons and malcontents who haunt this forum.
Be careful Stratton man you may get thumbs marking you down.....or worse comments made on your behalf.
It ok though the comments written for you will have no bearing on your actual comments so you really shouldnt care.
[quote][p][bold]stratton man[/bold] wrote: Channelx. I have never posted on Talkswindon.More fun with the loons and malcontents who haunt this forum.[/p][/quote]Be careful Stratton man you may get thumbs marking you down.....or worse comments made on your behalf. It ok though the comments written for you will have no bearing on your actual comments so you really shouldnt care. Badgersgetabadname

2:00pm Wed 26 Feb 14

stratton man says...

Don't worry badger I`m waiting in the line behind Channel for our afternoon medication.He wont be able to post until it wears off.wibble wibble.
Don't worry badger I`m waiting in the line behind Channel for our afternoon medication.He wont be able to post until it wears off.wibble wibble. stratton man

2:10pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

stratton man wrote:
Don't worry badger I`m waiting in the line behind Channel for our afternoon medication.He wont be able to post until it wears off.wibble wibble.
Hahha would love to join you all for tea and discussion.
[quote][p][bold]stratton man[/bold] wrote: Don't worry badger I`m waiting in the line behind Channel for our afternoon medication.He wont be able to post until it wears off.wibble wibble.[/p][/quote]Hahha would love to join you all for tea and discussion. Badgersgetabadname

2:26pm Wed 26 Feb 14

stratton man says...

Badger I`l ask matron if we are allowed visitors this week.Bring waterproof clothing we tend to be messy eaters.
Badger I`l ask matron if we are allowed visitors this week.Bring waterproof clothing we tend to be messy eaters. stratton man

2:30pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Davey Gravey says...

ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
The Tories need removing asap before they destroy everything. Funny how there is money to waste on useless ego boosting schemes that go tits up or are not needed. Take the time to vote in May and remove them !
Who do you hope to see running the town in their place, Davey?

It won't be independents, so no point responding with that.

So, who?
I will probably vote labour. They are the only realistic way of keeping you and your other wasteful councilor Tory chums out.
If there is an independent candidate then I would vote for them but one standing in my ward is unlikely.

I do think the Tory council will get bloody noses in May due to the attack on public services coupled with the WiFi and other wastes of our money.
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: The Tories need removing asap before they destroy everything. Funny how there is money to waste on useless ego boosting schemes that go tits up or are not needed. Take the time to vote in May and remove them ![/p][/quote]Who do you hope to see running the town in their place, Davey? It won't be independents, so no point responding with that. So, who?[/p][/quote]I will probably vote labour. They are the only realistic way of keeping you and your other wasteful councilor Tory chums out. If there is an independent candidate then I would vote for them but one standing in my ward is unlikely. I do think the Tory council will get bloody noses in May due to the attack on public services coupled with the WiFi and other wastes of our money. Davey Gravey

2:58pm Wed 26 Feb 14

swindondad says...

After reading about the true horrors and problems that people around the world face it is a nice change of pace to read about the minor problems SBC face and encouraging that so many of us realize that we can have our say / potentially make a difference at the ballot box.
After reading about the true horrors and problems that people around the world face it is a nice change of pace to read about the minor problems SBC face and encouraging that so many of us realize that we can have our say / potentially make a difference at the ballot box. swindondad

3:28pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Always Grumpy says...

A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
It fair to ask those who need a service to pay for it, if you have a garden and generate green waste then you have the option to sort it out yourself for free or pay a fee, why should all taxpayers pay for non essential green waste collections.
You know Green waste is all recyclable waste rather than physically colored green waste?
Plastic bottles etc...I take it you currently do no recycling?
The green waste collection which is an optional service, it collects Green Garden waste, the charge is £40/ year.
I sort my garden waste myself and always have been, if and when I am unable to deal with my garden waste, I would subscribe to the collection service, I do not expect you or others to fit the bill for myself.
Thank you.
I'm already paying a fortune in council tax for various services I do not benefit from.
Why should I be expected to pay even more?
[quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: It fair to ask those who need a service to pay for it, if you have a garden and generate green waste then you have the option to sort it out yourself for free or pay a fee, why should all taxpayers pay for non essential green waste collections.[/p][/quote]You know Green waste is all recyclable waste rather than physically colored green waste? Plastic bottles etc...I take it you currently do no recycling?[/p][/quote]The green waste collection which is an optional service, it collects Green Garden waste, the charge is £40/ year. I sort my garden waste myself and always have been, if and when I am unable to deal with my garden waste, I would subscribe to the collection service, I do not expect you or others to fit the bill for myself. Thank you.[/p][/quote]I'm already paying a fortune in council tax for various services I do not benefit from. Why should I be expected to pay even more? Always Grumpy

3:52pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Wiltshirereader says...

As expected, the usual mayhem and indecision at the Council meeting..... now that IS a waste of money!
As expected, the usual mayhem and indecision at the Council meeting..... now that IS a waste of money! Wiltshirereader

4:10pm Wed 26 Feb 14

A.Baron-Cohen says...

Always Grumpy wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
It fair to ask those who need a service to pay for it, if you have a garden and generate green waste then you have the option to sort it out yourself for free or pay a fee, why should all taxpayers pay for non essential green waste collections.
You know Green waste is all recyclable waste rather than physically colored green waste?
Plastic bottles etc...I take it you currently do no recycling?
The green waste collection which is an optional service, it collects Green Garden waste, the charge is £40/ year.
I sort my garden waste myself and always have been, if and when I am unable to deal with my garden waste, I would subscribe to the collection service, I do not expect you or others to fit the bill for myself.
Thank you.
I'm already paying a fortune in council tax for various services I do not benefit from.
Why should I be expected to pay even more?
You are missing the point.....you do not have to pay, it is an optional service.
[quote][p][bold]Always Grumpy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: It fair to ask those who need a service to pay for it, if you have a garden and generate green waste then you have the option to sort it out yourself for free or pay a fee, why should all taxpayers pay for non essential green waste collections.[/p][/quote]You know Green waste is all recyclable waste rather than physically colored green waste? Plastic bottles etc...I take it you currently do no recycling?[/p][/quote]The green waste collection which is an optional service, it collects Green Garden waste, the charge is £40/ year. I sort my garden waste myself and always have been, if and when I am unable to deal with my garden waste, I would subscribe to the collection service, I do not expect you or others to fit the bill for myself. Thank you.[/p][/quote]I'm already paying a fortune in council tax for various services I do not benefit from. Why should I be expected to pay even more?[/p][/quote]You are missing the point.....you do not have to pay, it is an optional service. A.Baron-Cohen

5:30pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Morsey says...

So's the decision in having / creating multitudes of children needing education and wellbeing, dogs that cr@p and need to be cleaned up after, often lazy residents (sad to say) incomes being shored up by housing benefit and paying little or no Council Tax ... personal choice ... all, costs money, and often far more than a green bag service.

The only certainty is that if we don't die early we could require later years assistance from the Council in one form or another. Separate charges for individual services are not attached to any other services other than the elderly needing to sell their homes to pay for care ... at least not CT ones are they?

Were it not for some people tending their gardens as was meant in the beginning, the whole town would be under flood with rainfall as previously. All this concrete and block paviours will come home to haunt in time ... a green garden should be encouraged not scorned by making extra charges on services!
So's the decision in having / creating multitudes of children needing education and wellbeing, dogs that cr@p and need to be cleaned up after, often lazy residents (sad to say) incomes being shored up by housing benefit and paying little or no Council Tax ... personal choice ... all, costs money, and often far more than a green bag service. The only certainty is that if we don't die early we could require later years assistance from the Council in one form or another. Separate charges for individual services are not attached to any other services other than the elderly needing to sell their homes to pay for care ... at least not CT ones are they? Were it not for some people tending their gardens as was meant in the beginning, the whole town would be under flood with rainfall as previously. All this concrete and block paviours will come home to haunt in time ... a green garden should be encouraged not scorned by making extra charges on services! Morsey

7:09pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Always Grumpy says...

A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Always Grumpy wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
It fair to ask those who need a service to pay for it, if you have a garden and generate green waste then you have the option to sort it out yourself for free or pay a fee, why should all taxpayers pay for non essential green waste collections.
You know Green waste is all recyclable waste rather than physically colored green waste?
Plastic bottles etc...I take it you currently do no recycling?
The green waste collection which is an optional service, it collects Green Garden waste, the charge is £40/ year.
I sort my garden waste myself and always have been, if and when I am unable to deal with my garden waste, I would subscribe to the collection service, I do not expect you or others to fit the bill for myself.
Thank you.
I'm already paying a fortune in council tax for various services I do not benefit from.
Why should I be expected to pay even more?
You are missing the point.....you do not have to pay, it is an optional service.
No, you're missing the point, as usual.
I cannot 'opt' out of paying council tax.
I did not have to pay extra for green waste collection last year, but I'm expected to pay this year.
What am I paying council tax for, if not for services provided by the council to benefit the council tax payers in the town. I'm getting very little from this council and I do pay a great deal for very little.
[quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Always Grumpy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: It fair to ask those who need a service to pay for it, if you have a garden and generate green waste then you have the option to sort it out yourself for free or pay a fee, why should all taxpayers pay for non essential green waste collections.[/p][/quote]You know Green waste is all recyclable waste rather than physically colored green waste? Plastic bottles etc...I take it you currently do no recycling?[/p][/quote]The green waste collection which is an optional service, it collects Green Garden waste, the charge is £40/ year. I sort my garden waste myself and always have been, if and when I am unable to deal with my garden waste, I would subscribe to the collection service, I do not expect you or others to fit the bill for myself. Thank you.[/p][/quote]I'm already paying a fortune in council tax for various services I do not benefit from. Why should I be expected to pay even more?[/p][/quote]You are missing the point.....you do not have to pay, it is an optional service.[/p][/quote]No, you're missing the point, as usual. I cannot 'opt' out of paying council tax. I did not have to pay extra for green waste collection last year, but I'm expected to pay this year. What am I paying council tax for, if not for services provided by the council to benefit the council tax payers in the town. I'm getting very little from this council and I do pay a great deal for very little. Always Grumpy

7:31pm Wed 26 Feb 14

beach1e says...

the garden waste charge is a grab tax. there are plenty of council tax charges that are ludicrous and should be scrapped, but this council and its staff are too lazy to change anything.
the garden waste charge is a grab tax. there are plenty of council tax charges that are ludicrous and should be scrapped, but this council and its staff are too lazy to change anything. beach1e

8:04pm Wed 26 Feb 14

house on the hill says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
The Tories need removing asap before they destroy everything. Funny how there is money to waste on useless ego boosting schemes that go tits up or are not needed. Take the time to vote in May and remove them !
Who do you hope to see running the town in their place, Davey?

It won't be independents, so no point responding with that.

So, who?
I will probably vote labour. They are the only realistic way of keeping you and your other wasteful councilor Tory chums out.
If there is an independent candidate then I would vote for them but one standing in my ward is unlikely.

I do think the Tory council will get bloody noses in May due to the attack on public services coupled with the WiFi and other wastes of our money.
And you honestly believe anyone else would be any better? People have such short memories in politics and deserve everything they get.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: The Tories need removing asap before they destroy everything. Funny how there is money to waste on useless ego boosting schemes that go tits up or are not needed. Take the time to vote in May and remove them ![/p][/quote]Who do you hope to see running the town in their place, Davey? It won't be independents, so no point responding with that. So, who?[/p][/quote]I will probably vote labour. They are the only realistic way of keeping you and your other wasteful councilor Tory chums out. If there is an independent candidate then I would vote for them but one standing in my ward is unlikely. I do think the Tory council will get bloody noses in May due to the attack on public services coupled with the WiFi and other wastes of our money.[/p][/quote]And you honestly believe anyone else would be any better? People have such short memories in politics and deserve everything they get. house on the hill

10:32pm Wed 26 Feb 14

msw says...

So if I understand this right, every fortnight a yellow refuse truck will drive up every road in Swindon emptying the very few Green wheelie bins tat are out there???????????????
?????? GREAT !
So if I understand this right, every fortnight a yellow refuse truck will drive up every road in Swindon emptying the very few Green wheelie bins tat are out there??????????????? ?????? GREAT ! msw

8:41am Thu 27 Feb 14

A.Baron-Cohen says...

Always Grumpy wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Always Grumpy wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
It fair to ask those who need a service to pay for it, if you have a garden and generate green waste then you have the option to sort it out yourself for free or pay a fee, why should all taxpayers pay for non essential green waste collections.
You know Green waste is all recyclable waste rather than physically colored green waste?
Plastic bottles etc...I take it you currently do no recycling?
The green waste collection which is an optional service, it collects Green Garden waste, the charge is £40/ year.
I sort my garden waste myself and always have been, if and when I am unable to deal with my garden waste, I would subscribe to the collection service, I do not expect you or others to fit the bill for myself.
Thank you.
I'm already paying a fortune in council tax for various services I do not benefit from.
Why should I be expected to pay even more?
You are missing the point.....you do not have to pay, it is an optional service.
No, you're missing the point, as usual.
I cannot 'opt' out of paying council tax.
I did not have to pay extra for green waste collection last year, but I'm expected to pay this year.
What am I paying council tax for, if not for services provided by the council to benefit the council tax payers in the town. I'm getting very little from this council and I do pay a great deal for very little.
You are paying for essential services, collecting your garden waste is not essential, if you are too lazy or stupid to tend your garden why should the community pay for your lack of abilities!?!
We as a group of friends and neighbours do pay a gardener to do our gardens from time to time, since you claim to be loaded, maybe you could put your energy to better use and support employment instead of moaning like an old woman
[quote][p][bold]Always Grumpy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Always Grumpy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: It fair to ask those who need a service to pay for it, if you have a garden and generate green waste then you have the option to sort it out yourself for free or pay a fee, why should all taxpayers pay for non essential green waste collections.[/p][/quote]You know Green waste is all recyclable waste rather than physically colored green waste? Plastic bottles etc...I take it you currently do no recycling?[/p][/quote]The green waste collection which is an optional service, it collects Green Garden waste, the charge is £40/ year. I sort my garden waste myself and always have been, if and when I am unable to deal with my garden waste, I would subscribe to the collection service, I do not expect you or others to fit the bill for myself. Thank you.[/p][/quote]I'm already paying a fortune in council tax for various services I do not benefit from. Why should I be expected to pay even more?[/p][/quote]You are missing the point.....you do not have to pay, it is an optional service.[/p][/quote]No, you're missing the point, as usual. I cannot 'opt' out of paying council tax. I did not have to pay extra for green waste collection last year, but I'm expected to pay this year. What am I paying council tax for, if not for services provided by the council to benefit the council tax payers in the town. I'm getting very little from this council and I do pay a great deal for very little.[/p][/quote]You are paying for essential services, collecting your garden waste is not essential, if you are too lazy or stupid to tend your garden why should the community pay for your lack of abilities!?! We as a group of friends and neighbours do pay a gardener to do our gardens from time to time, since you claim to be loaded, maybe you could put your energy to better use and support employment instead of moaning like an old woman A.Baron-Cohen

9:27am Thu 27 Feb 14

Always Grumpy says...

A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Always Grumpy wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Always Grumpy wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
It fair to ask those who need a service to pay for it, if you have a garden and generate green waste then you have the option to sort it out yourself for free or pay a fee, why should all taxpayers pay for non essential green waste collections.
You know Green waste is all recyclable waste rather than physically colored green waste?
Plastic bottles etc...I take it you currently do no recycling?
The green waste collection which is an optional service, it collects Green Garden waste, the charge is £40/ year.
I sort my garden waste myself and always have been, if and when I am unable to deal with my garden waste, I would subscribe to the collection service, I do not expect you or others to fit the bill for myself.
Thank you.
I'm already paying a fortune in council tax for various services I do not benefit from.
Why should I be expected to pay even more?
You are missing the point.....you do not have to pay, it is an optional service.
No, you're missing the point, as usual.
I cannot 'opt' out of paying council tax.
I did not have to pay extra for green waste collection last year, but I'm expected to pay this year.
What am I paying council tax for, if not for services provided by the council to benefit the council tax payers in the town. I'm getting very little from this council and I do pay a great deal for very little.
You are paying for essential services, collecting your garden waste is not essential, if you are too lazy or stupid to tend your garden why should the community pay for your lack of abilities!?!
We as a group of friends and neighbours do pay a gardener to do our gardens from time to time, since you claim to be loaded, maybe you could put your energy to better use and support employment instead of moaning like an old woman
Ha, ha poliprat, as usual resorting to abuse when your argument is lost.
I'm neither stupid or lazy, just sick of the likes of you telling other, normal, people what to do and getting it all so wrong. The only thing you got right was accepting the fact that I'm loaded.
I was wondering how long before you, once again, showed your true face and try to bully normal people into accepting your out of touch left wing views. You really are a nasty piece of work aren't you, as recognised by everyone else on this site judged by the adverse voting of your comments.
Does the school you work for know how much of their time you spend on this site during school hours. What are you, the caretakers second assistant or the stupid girl in the office that takes calls from parents? Obviously you're not in a job that requires intelligence or a good command of English. Typical work for a semi literate self confessed illegal immigrant I suppose.
[quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Always Grumpy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Always Grumpy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: It fair to ask those who need a service to pay for it, if you have a garden and generate green waste then you have the option to sort it out yourself for free or pay a fee, why should all taxpayers pay for non essential green waste collections.[/p][/quote]You know Green waste is all recyclable waste rather than physically colored green waste? Plastic bottles etc...I take it you currently do no recycling?[/p][/quote]The green waste collection which is an optional service, it collects Green Garden waste, the charge is £40/ year. I sort my garden waste myself and always have been, if and when I am unable to deal with my garden waste, I would subscribe to the collection service, I do not expect you or others to fit the bill for myself. Thank you.[/p][/quote]I'm already paying a fortune in council tax for various services I do not benefit from. Why should I be expected to pay even more?[/p][/quote]You are missing the point.....you do not have to pay, it is an optional service.[/p][/quote]No, you're missing the point, as usual. I cannot 'opt' out of paying council tax. I did not have to pay extra for green waste collection last year, but I'm expected to pay this year. What am I paying council tax for, if not for services provided by the council to benefit the council tax payers in the town. I'm getting very little from this council and I do pay a great deal for very little.[/p][/quote]You are paying for essential services, collecting your garden waste is not essential, if you are too lazy or stupid to tend your garden why should the community pay for your lack of abilities!?! We as a group of friends and neighbours do pay a gardener to do our gardens from time to time, since you claim to be loaded, maybe you could put your energy to better use and support employment instead of moaning like an old woman[/p][/quote]Ha, ha poliprat, as usual resorting to abuse when your argument is lost. I'm neither stupid or lazy, just sick of the likes of you telling other, normal, people what to do and getting it all so wrong. The only thing you got right was accepting the fact that I'm loaded. I was wondering how long before you, once again, showed your true face and try to bully normal people into accepting your out of touch left wing views. You really are a nasty piece of work aren't you, as recognised by everyone else on this site judged by the adverse voting of your comments. Does the school you work for know how much of their time you spend on this site during school hours. What are you, the caretakers second assistant or the stupid girl in the office that takes calls from parents? Obviously you're not in a job that requires intelligence or a good command of English. Typical work for a semi literate self confessed illegal immigrant I suppose. Always Grumpy

9:37am Thu 27 Feb 14

A.Baron-Cohen says...

Always Grumpy wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Always Grumpy wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Always Grumpy wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
It fair to ask those who need a service to pay for it, if you have a garden and generate green waste then you have the option to sort it out yourself for free or pay a fee, why should all taxpayers pay for non essential green waste collections.
You know Green waste is all recyclable waste rather than physically colored green waste?
Plastic bottles etc...I take it you currently do no recycling?
The green waste collection which is an optional service, it collects Green Garden waste, the charge is £40/ year.
I sort my garden waste myself and always have been, if and when I am unable to deal with my garden waste, I would subscribe to the collection service, I do not expect you or others to fit the bill for myself.
Thank you.
I'm already paying a fortune in council tax for various services I do not benefit from.
Why should I be expected to pay even more?
You are missing the point.....you do not have to pay, it is an optional service.
No, you're missing the point, as usual.
I cannot 'opt' out of paying council tax.
I did not have to pay extra for green waste collection last year, but I'm expected to pay this year.
What am I paying council tax for, if not for services provided by the council to benefit the council tax payers in the town. I'm getting very little from this council and I do pay a great deal for very little.
You are paying for essential services, collecting your garden waste is not essential, if you are too lazy or stupid to tend your garden why should the community pay for your lack of abilities!?!
We as a group of friends and neighbours do pay a gardener to do our gardens from time to time, since you claim to be loaded, maybe you could put your energy to better use and support employment instead of moaning like an old woman
Ha, ha poliprat, as usual resorting to abuse when your argument is lost.
I'm neither stupid or lazy, just sick of the likes of you telling other, normal, people what to do and getting it all so wrong. The only thing you got right was accepting the fact that I'm loaded.
I was wondering how long before you, once again, showed your true face and try to bully normal people into accepting your out of touch left wing views. You really are a nasty piece of work aren't you, as recognised by everyone else on this site judged by the adverse voting of your comments.
Does the school you work for know how much of their time you spend on this site during school hours. What are you, the caretakers second assistant or the stupid girl in the office that takes calls from parents? Obviously you're not in a job that requires intelligence or a good command of English. Typical work for a semi literate self confessed illegal immigrant I suppose.
This council is keeping the council tax low and that is about all I care, you can moan and go on about your idiotic rant about immigrants, I am not bothered in the slightest.
I do not want to pay for your garden waste and it seems I will not, so from my point of view, it is a win win for me :-)
Adios amigo
[quote][p][bold]Always Grumpy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Always Grumpy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Always Grumpy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: It fair to ask those who need a service to pay for it, if you have a garden and generate green waste then you have the option to sort it out yourself for free or pay a fee, why should all taxpayers pay for non essential green waste collections.[/p][/quote]You know Green waste is all recyclable waste rather than physically colored green waste? Plastic bottles etc...I take it you currently do no recycling?[/p][/quote]The green waste collection which is an optional service, it collects Green Garden waste, the charge is £40/ year. I sort my garden waste myself and always have been, if and when I am unable to deal with my garden waste, I would subscribe to the collection service, I do not expect you or others to fit the bill for myself. Thank you.[/p][/quote]I'm already paying a fortune in council tax for various services I do not benefit from. Why should I be expected to pay even more?[/p][/quote]You are missing the point.....you do not have to pay, it is an optional service.[/p][/quote]No, you're missing the point, as usual. I cannot 'opt' out of paying council tax. I did not have to pay extra for green waste collection last year, but I'm expected to pay this year. What am I paying council tax for, if not for services provided by the council to benefit the council tax payers in the town. I'm getting very little from this council and I do pay a great deal for very little.[/p][/quote]You are paying for essential services, collecting your garden waste is not essential, if you are too lazy or stupid to tend your garden why should the community pay for your lack of abilities!?! We as a group of friends and neighbours do pay a gardener to do our gardens from time to time, since you claim to be loaded, maybe you could put your energy to better use and support employment instead of moaning like an old woman[/p][/quote]Ha, ha poliprat, as usual resorting to abuse when your argument is lost. I'm neither stupid or lazy, just sick of the likes of you telling other, normal, people what to do and getting it all so wrong. The only thing you got right was accepting the fact that I'm loaded. I was wondering how long before you, once again, showed your true face and try to bully normal people into accepting your out of touch left wing views. You really are a nasty piece of work aren't you, as recognised by everyone else on this site judged by the adverse voting of your comments. Does the school you work for know how much of their time you spend on this site during school hours. What are you, the caretakers second assistant or the stupid girl in the office that takes calls from parents? Obviously you're not in a job that requires intelligence or a good command of English. Typical work for a semi literate self confessed illegal immigrant I suppose.[/p][/quote]This council is keeping the council tax low and that is about all I care, you can moan and go on about your idiotic rant about immigrants, I am not bothered in the slightest. I do not want to pay for your garden waste and it seems I will not, so from my point of view, it is a win win for me :-) Adios amigo A.Baron-Cohen

9:52am Thu 27 Feb 14

Always Grumpy says...

A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Always Grumpy wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Always Grumpy wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Always Grumpy wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
It fair to ask those who need a service to pay for it, if you have a garden and generate green waste then you have the option to sort it out yourself for free or pay a fee, why should all taxpayers pay for non essential green waste collections.
You know Green waste is all recyclable waste rather than physically colored green waste?
Plastic bottles etc...I take it you currently do no recycling?
The green waste collection which is an optional service, it collects Green Garden waste, the charge is £40/ year.
I sort my garden waste myself and always have been, if and when I am unable to deal with my garden waste, I would subscribe to the collection service, I do not expect you or others to fit the bill for myself.
Thank you.
I'm already paying a fortune in council tax for various services I do not benefit from.
Why should I be expected to pay even more?
You are missing the point.....you do not have to pay, it is an optional service.
No, you're missing the point, as usual.
I cannot 'opt' out of paying council tax.
I did not have to pay extra for green waste collection last year, but I'm expected to pay this year.
What am I paying council tax for, if not for services provided by the council to benefit the council tax payers in the town. I'm getting very little from this council and I do pay a great deal for very little.
You are paying for essential services, collecting your garden waste is not essential, if you are too lazy or stupid to tend your garden why should the community pay for your lack of abilities!?!
We as a group of friends and neighbours do pay a gardener to do our gardens from time to time, since you claim to be loaded, maybe you could put your energy to better use and support employment instead of moaning like an old woman
Ha, ha poliprat, as usual resorting to abuse when your argument is lost.
I'm neither stupid or lazy, just sick of the likes of you telling other, normal, people what to do and getting it all so wrong. The only thing you got right was accepting the fact that I'm loaded.
I was wondering how long before you, once again, showed your true face and try to bully normal people into accepting your out of touch left wing views. You really are a nasty piece of work aren't you, as recognised by everyone else on this site judged by the adverse voting of your comments.
Does the school you work for know how much of their time you spend on this site during school hours. What are you, the caretakers second assistant or the stupid girl in the office that takes calls from parents? Obviously you're not in a job that requires intelligence or a good command of English. Typical work for a semi literate self confessed illegal immigrant I suppose.
This council is keeping the council tax low and that is about all I care, you can moan and go on about your idiotic rant about immigrants, I am not bothered in the slightest.
I do not want to pay for your garden waste and it seems I will not, so from my point of view, it is a win win for me :-)
Adios amigo
What a nasty little hypocrite you are.
We have to pay for what YOU want, but not what anyone else wants.
That just about sums you up perfectly.
Another slow day in school I suppose! What you should be doing, when the toilets don't need cleaning, is getting to grips with how to use MY language correctly.
[quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Always Grumpy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Always Grumpy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Always Grumpy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: It fair to ask those who need a service to pay for it, if you have a garden and generate green waste then you have the option to sort it out yourself for free or pay a fee, why should all taxpayers pay for non essential green waste collections.[/p][/quote]You know Green waste is all recyclable waste rather than physically colored green waste? Plastic bottles etc...I take it you currently do no recycling?[/p][/quote]The green waste collection which is an optional service, it collects Green Garden waste, the charge is £40/ year. I sort my garden waste myself and always have been, if and when I am unable to deal with my garden waste, I would subscribe to the collection service, I do not expect you or others to fit the bill for myself. Thank you.[/p][/quote]I'm already paying a fortune in council tax for various services I do not benefit from. Why should I be expected to pay even more?[/p][/quote]You are missing the point.....you do not have to pay, it is an optional service.[/p][/quote]No, you're missing the point, as usual. I cannot 'opt' out of paying council tax. I did not have to pay extra for green waste collection last year, but I'm expected to pay this year. What am I paying council tax for, if not for services provided by the council to benefit the council tax payers in the town. I'm getting very little from this council and I do pay a great deal for very little.[/p][/quote]You are paying for essential services, collecting your garden waste is not essential, if you are too lazy or stupid to tend your garden why should the community pay for your lack of abilities!?! We as a group of friends and neighbours do pay a gardener to do our gardens from time to time, since you claim to be loaded, maybe you could put your energy to better use and support employment instead of moaning like an old woman[/p][/quote]Ha, ha poliprat, as usual resorting to abuse when your argument is lost. I'm neither stupid or lazy, just sick of the likes of you telling other, normal, people what to do and getting it all so wrong. The only thing you got right was accepting the fact that I'm loaded. I was wondering how long before you, once again, showed your true face and try to bully normal people into accepting your out of touch left wing views. You really are a nasty piece of work aren't you, as recognised by everyone else on this site judged by the adverse voting of your comments. Does the school you work for know how much of their time you spend on this site during school hours. What are you, the caretakers second assistant or the stupid girl in the office that takes calls from parents? Obviously you're not in a job that requires intelligence or a good command of English. Typical work for a semi literate self confessed illegal immigrant I suppose.[/p][/quote]This council is keeping the council tax low and that is about all I care, you can moan and go on about your idiotic rant about immigrants, I am not bothered in the slightest. I do not want to pay for your garden waste and it seems I will not, so from my point of view, it is a win win for me :-) Adios amigo[/p][/quote]What a nasty little hypocrite you are. We have to pay for what YOU want, but not what anyone else wants. That just about sums you up perfectly. Another slow day in school I suppose! What you should be doing, when the toilets don't need cleaning, is getting to grips with how to use MY language correctly. Always Grumpy

10:10am Thu 27 Feb 14

A.Baron-Cohen says...

Always Grumpy wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Always Grumpy wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Always Grumpy wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Always Grumpy wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
It fair to ask those who need a service to pay for it, if you have a garden and generate green waste then you have the option to sort it out yourself for free or pay a fee, why should all taxpayers pay for non essential green waste collections.
You know Green waste is all recyclable waste rather than physically colored green waste?
Plastic bottles etc...I take it you currently do no recycling?
The green waste collection which is an optional service, it collects Green Garden waste, the charge is £40/ year.
I sort my garden waste myself and always have been, if and when I am unable to deal with my garden waste, I would subscribe to the collection service, I do not expect you or others to fit the bill for myself.
Thank you.
I'm already paying a fortune in council tax for various services I do not benefit from.
Why should I be expected to pay even more?
You are missing the point.....you do not have to pay, it is an optional service.
No, you're missing the point, as usual.
I cannot 'opt' out of paying council tax.
I did not have to pay extra for green waste collection last year, but I'm expected to pay this year.
What am I paying council tax for, if not for services provided by the council to benefit the council tax payers in the town. I'm getting very little from this council and I do pay a great deal for very little.
You are paying for essential services, collecting your garden waste is not essential, if you are too lazy or stupid to tend your garden why should the community pay for your lack of abilities!?!
We as a group of friends and neighbours do pay a gardener to do our gardens from time to time, since you claim to be loaded, maybe you could put your energy to better use and support employment instead of moaning like an old woman
Ha, ha poliprat, as usual resorting to abuse when your argument is lost.
I'm neither stupid or lazy, just sick of the likes of you telling other, normal, people what to do and getting it all so wrong. The only thing you got right was accepting the fact that I'm loaded.
I was wondering how long before you, once again, showed your true face and try to bully normal people into accepting your out of touch left wing views. You really are a nasty piece of work aren't you, as recognised by everyone else on this site judged by the adverse voting of your comments.
Does the school you work for know how much of their time you spend on this site during school hours. What are you, the caretakers second assistant or the stupid girl in the office that takes calls from parents? Obviously you're not in a job that requires intelligence or a good command of English. Typical work for a semi literate self confessed illegal immigrant I suppose.
This council is keeping the council tax low and that is about all I care, you can moan and go on about your idiotic rant about immigrants, I am not bothered in the slightest.
I do not want to pay for your garden waste and it seems I will not, so from my point of view, it is a win win for me :-)
Adios amigo
What a nasty little hypocrite you are.
We have to pay for what YOU want, but not what anyone else wants.
That just about sums you up perfectly.
Another slow day in school I suppose! What you should be doing, when the toilets don't need cleaning, is getting to grips with how to use MY language correctly.
Your Language, Your country, Your green waste! you got that?!?
[quote][p][bold]Always Grumpy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Always Grumpy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Always Grumpy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Always Grumpy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: It fair to ask those who need a service to pay for it, if you have a garden and generate green waste then you have the option to sort it out yourself for free or pay a fee, why should all taxpayers pay for non essential green waste collections.[/p][/quote]You know Green waste is all recyclable waste rather than physically colored green waste? Plastic bottles etc...I take it you currently do no recycling?[/p][/quote]The green waste collection which is an optional service, it collects Green Garden waste, the charge is £40/ year. I sort my garden waste myself and always have been, if and when I am unable to deal with my garden waste, I would subscribe to the collection service, I do not expect you or others to fit the bill for myself. Thank you.[/p][/quote]I'm already paying a fortune in council tax for various services I do not benefit from. Why should I be expected to pay even more?[/p][/quote]You are missing the point.....you do not have to pay, it is an optional service.[/p][/quote]No, you're missing the point, as usual. I cannot 'opt' out of paying council tax. I did not have to pay extra for green waste collection last year, but I'm expected to pay this year. What am I paying council tax for, if not for services provided by the council to benefit the council tax payers in the town. I'm getting very little from this council and I do pay a great deal for very little.[/p][/quote]You are paying for essential services, collecting your garden waste is not essential, if you are too lazy or stupid to tend your garden why should the community pay for your lack of abilities!?! We as a group of friends and neighbours do pay a gardener to do our gardens from time to time, since you claim to be loaded, maybe you could put your energy to better use and support employment instead of moaning like an old woman[/p][/quote]Ha, ha poliprat, as usual resorting to abuse when your argument is lost. I'm neither stupid or lazy, just sick of the likes of you telling other, normal, people what to do and getting it all so wrong. The only thing you got right was accepting the fact that I'm loaded. I was wondering how long before you, once again, showed your true face and try to bully normal people into accepting your out of touch left wing views. You really are a nasty piece of work aren't you, as recognised by everyone else on this site judged by the adverse voting of your comments. Does the school you work for know how much of their time you spend on this site during school hours. What are you, the caretakers second assistant or the stupid girl in the office that takes calls from parents? Obviously you're not in a job that requires intelligence or a good command of English. Typical work for a semi literate self confessed illegal immigrant I suppose.[/p][/quote]This council is keeping the council tax low and that is about all I care, you can moan and go on about your idiotic rant about immigrants, I am not bothered in the slightest. I do not want to pay for your garden waste and it seems I will not, so from my point of view, it is a win win for me :-) Adios amigo[/p][/quote]What a nasty little hypocrite you are. We have to pay for what YOU want, but not what anyone else wants. That just about sums you up perfectly. Another slow day in school I suppose! What you should be doing, when the toilets don't need cleaning, is getting to grips with how to use MY language correctly.[/p][/quote]Your Language, Your country, Your green waste! you got that?!? A.Baron-Cohen

10:16am Thu 27 Feb 14

Always Grumpy says...

Well, you got the first two right at last. So yes, my country - clear off back to your african ghetto.
I expect the toilets need cleaning by now.
Well, you got the first two right at last. So yes, my country - clear off back to your african ghetto. I expect the toilets need cleaning by now. Always Grumpy

10:17am Thu 27 Feb 14

A.Baron-Cohen says...

Always Grumpy wrote:
Well, you got the first two right at last. So yes, my country - clear off back to your african ghetto.
I expect the toilets need cleaning by now.
You can send in your daughter we are waiting for the show to begin
[quote][p][bold]Always Grumpy[/bold] wrote: Well, you got the first two right at last. So yes, my country - clear off back to your african ghetto. I expect the toilets need cleaning by now.[/p][/quote]You can send in your daughter we are waiting for the show to begin A.Baron-Cohen

11:02am Thu 27 Feb 14

fuzzey says...

Hi R.S.W. no need to worry about the collecting teams having to rush round every street in swindon.i am informed that with in cab technology they will know which households have paid the 4 per cent increase in council tax .so should be able to nip round at the speed of light .
Hi R.S.W. no need to worry about the collecting teams having to rush round every street in swindon.i am informed that with in cab technology they will know which households have paid the 4 per cent increase in council tax .so should be able to nip round at the speed of light . fuzzey

11:09am Thu 27 Feb 14

Always Grumpy says...

A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Always Grumpy wrote:
Well, you got the first two right at last. So yes, my country - clear off back to your african ghetto.
I expect the toilets need cleaning by now.
You can send in your daughter we are waiting for the show to begin
She wouldn't dream of stooping to your impossibly low level.
You would be better off cruising the streets around Manchester Road for your type of girl - or have you already got one of those?
[quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Always Grumpy[/bold] wrote: Well, you got the first two right at last. So yes, my country - clear off back to your african ghetto. I expect the toilets need cleaning by now.[/p][/quote]You can send in your daughter we are waiting for the show to begin[/p][/quote]She wouldn't dream of stooping to your impossibly low level. You would be better off cruising the streets around Manchester Road for your type of girl - or have you already got one of those? Always Grumpy

11:33am Thu 27 Feb 14

A.Baron-Cohen says...

Always Grumpy wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Always Grumpy wrote:
Well, you got the first two right at last. So yes, my country - clear off back to your african ghetto.
I expect the toilets need cleaning by now.
You can send in your daughter we are waiting for the show to begin
She wouldn't dream of stooping to your impossibly low level.
You would be better off cruising the streets around Manchester Road for your type of girl - or have you already got one of those?
Why so serious LOL oh my oh my you do know where to cruise don't you, but don't worry your secret is safe ahaha
[quote][p][bold]Always Grumpy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Always Grumpy[/bold] wrote: Well, you got the first two right at last. So yes, my country - clear off back to your african ghetto. I expect the toilets need cleaning by now.[/p][/quote]You can send in your daughter we are waiting for the show to begin[/p][/quote]She wouldn't dream of stooping to your impossibly low level. You would be better off cruising the streets around Manchester Road for your type of girl - or have you already got one of those?[/p][/quote]Why so serious LOL oh my oh my you do know where to cruise don't you, but don't worry your secret is safe ahaha A.Baron-Cohen

12:41pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Always Grumpy says...

A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Always Grumpy wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Always Grumpy wrote:
Well, you got the first two right at last. So yes, my country - clear off back to your african ghetto.
I expect the toilets need cleaning by now.
You can send in your daughter we are waiting for the show to begin
She wouldn't dream of stooping to your impossibly low level.
You would be better off cruising the streets around Manchester Road for your type of girl - or have you already got one of those?
Why so serious LOL oh my oh my you do know where to cruise don't you, but don't worry your secret is safe ahaha
Never been there after dark in the last forty years, just read the stories about the Manchester road area and where your kind frequent and get their kicks. I've also read quite a few news reports in the national press about how your kind treat young girls - quite revolting.
[quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Always Grumpy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Always Grumpy[/bold] wrote: Well, you got the first two right at last. So yes, my country - clear off back to your african ghetto. I expect the toilets need cleaning by now.[/p][/quote]You can send in your daughter we are waiting for the show to begin[/p][/quote]She wouldn't dream of stooping to your impossibly low level. You would be better off cruising the streets around Manchester Road for your type of girl - or have you already got one of those?[/p][/quote]Why so serious LOL oh my oh my you do know where to cruise don't you, but don't worry your secret is safe ahaha[/p][/quote]Never been there after dark in the last forty years, just read the stories about the Manchester road area and where your kind frequent and get their kicks. I've also read quite a few news reports in the national press about how your kind treat young girls - quite revolting. Always Grumpy

1:46pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Davey Gravey says...

Oooh someones had a fiddle aint they. Wink wink
Oooh someones had a fiddle aint they. Wink wink Davey Gravey

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