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Council given £360k for school meals

Swindon Advertiser: Council given £360k for school meals Council given £360k for school meals

THE Government has announced funding will be made available to Swindon Council so it can roll out hot meals for all children in Years 1 and 2.

Last September, the Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg said that all children in these year groups should have access to a hot meal by the start of the next academic year.

It was recently announced the council would receive £360,000 which will now be used to pay for providing the facilities at all council-run primary schools.

A project team has been set up to analyse the needs of each school, which will include ensuring there is space for meals to be eaten and equipment, such as cookers and fridges.

Schools who need equipment will be required to put forward their requests but headteachers are being encouraged to work together to provide meals. This may involve one school cooking the meal and then transporting it to another.

While work still needs to be done to ensure everything is in place, the council is confident every child will have access to a hot meal.

Coun Fionuala Foley (Con, Chiseldon and Lawn), the cabinet member for children’s services, said: “We are working hard to make sure that the Government’s aim to give all parents the choice of a hot school meal for their child will be in place from September.

“We have been given £360,000 funding to do this which will be allocated between 35 schools, depending on the level of work that needs to be done. “Large-scale work will not be needed in any schools as far as we can see, but some may need new or more equipment, such as cookers and fridges.

“We have also set up a project team to advise schools how best to work together, so that they can buy services jointly to reduce costs, or copy some arrangements that already exist where some schools supply hot meals to pupils in other schools as well as their own.”

It is not yet known precisely what the uptake in Swindon will be, but the Government estimates somewhere in the region of 85 per cent of all children will take up the offer.

The council is also anticipating the regulation might be extended to pupils in Years 3, 4 and 5 at a later date so this is also being taken into account.

The team set up to look at the needs of schools will be working closely with catering staff and bursurs before a full report is submitted next month.

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9:40am Fri 7 Mar 14

A.Baron-Cohen says...

another great waste of taxpayers money
another great waste of taxpayers money A.Baron-Cohen
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9:56am Fri 7 Mar 14

sushigal007 says...

A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
another great waste of taxpayers money
I dunno. Feeding children is actually pretty far down on my list of "things I think are a waste of taxpayers money". Especially when so many people are having to turn to foodbanks.
[quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: another great waste of taxpayers money[/p][/quote]I dunno. Feeding children is actually pretty far down on my list of "things I think are a waste of taxpayers money". Especially when so many people are having to turn to foodbanks. sushigal007
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10:19am Fri 7 Mar 14

A.Baron-Cohen says...

sushigal007 wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
another great waste of taxpayers money
I dunno. Feeding children is actually pretty far down on my list of "things I think are a waste of taxpayers money". Especially when so many people are having to turn to foodbanks.
It is the parents duty to feed their kids, it is very much the basic duty of any parent, if a parent is not able to do this, then obviously the kid(s) should be put into care.
[quote][p][bold]sushigal007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: another great waste of taxpayers money[/p][/quote]I dunno. Feeding children is actually pretty far down on my list of "things I think are a waste of taxpayers money". Especially when so many people are having to turn to foodbanks.[/p][/quote]It is the parents duty to feed their kids, it is very much the basic duty of any parent, if a parent is not able to do this, then obviously the kid(s) should be put into care. A.Baron-Cohen
  • Score: 3

11:53am Fri 7 Mar 14

Nikki Nythe says...

I am a parent and kind of totally agree, we have children and should pay for their lunch, it's just a gimmick to attract Liberal votes, doesn't work for me, I am happy to pay for the lunch.

Waste of money - Those less fortunate get free dinners anyway, if they can afford to feed their children, why provide it for free?
I am a parent and kind of totally agree, we have children and should pay for their lunch, it's just a gimmick to attract Liberal votes, doesn't work for me, I am happy to pay for the lunch. Waste of money - Those less fortunate get free dinners anyway, if they can afford to feed their children, why provide it for free? Nikki Nythe
  • Score: 8

12:35pm Fri 7 Mar 14

ChannelX says...

This is part of the plan to absolve parents of their responsibilities towards their children. Free hot meals for them at school, which will mean many parents simply give them sandwiches in the evening as they'll, 'already have had a proper meal', and then the government's intention to increase school opening hours such that schools basically provide free childcare while their parents are at work.

Quite what that means in terms of what 'stay at home Mums' will actually have left to do all day, I'm not sure.
This is part of the plan to absolve parents of their responsibilities towards their children. Free hot meals for them at school, which will mean many parents simply give them sandwiches in the evening as they'll, 'already have had a proper meal', and then the government's intention to increase school opening hours such that schools basically provide free childcare while their parents are at work. Quite what that means in terms of what 'stay at home Mums' will actually have left to do all day, I'm not sure. ChannelX
  • Score: 2

12:37pm Fri 7 Mar 14

house on the hill says...

The system is also a massive waste of money. If pupils are entitled to free school meals, the schools has to provide choices, which is clearly going to result in massive waste.

As a real example in 1 school in Swindon, they provide a choice of 4 different meals. so say you have 250 pupils on free school meals, they have to have ready 1000 meals. Some pupils may not even bother to have their lunch or not be in school so you will always have a minimum of 75% of the meals going to waste. A typical public sector waste, in principal of course its a good idea in reality it wastes £millions! The foodbank meals handed out are are drop in the ocean compared to the amount of food schools chuck in the bins each day!
The system is also a massive waste of money. If pupils are entitled to free school meals, the schools has to provide choices, which is clearly going to result in massive waste. As a real example in 1 school in Swindon, they provide a choice of 4 different meals. so say you have 250 pupils on free school meals, they have to have ready 1000 meals. Some pupils may not even bother to have their lunch or not be in school so you will always have a minimum of 75% of the meals going to waste. A typical public sector waste, in principal of course its a good idea in reality it wastes £millions! The foodbank meals handed out are are drop in the ocean compared to the amount of food schools chuck in the bins each day! house on the hill
  • Score: -3

6:24pm Fri 7 Mar 14

PJC says...

house on the hill wrote:
The system is also a massive waste of money. If pupils are entitled to free school meals, the schools has to provide choices, which is clearly going to result in massive waste.

As a real example in 1 school in Swindon, they provide a choice of 4 different meals. so say you have 250 pupils on free school meals, they have to have ready 1000 meals. Some pupils may not even bother to have their lunch or not be in school so you will always have a minimum of 75% of the meals going to waste. A typical public sector waste, in principal of course its a good idea in reality it wastes £millions! The foodbank meals handed out are are drop in the ocean compared to the amount of food schools chuck in the bins each day!
Where did you pluck the figure 'minimum of 75%' from, thin air? Do you have evidence to back that up?
[quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: The system is also a massive waste of money. If pupils are entitled to free school meals, the schools has to provide choices, which is clearly going to result in massive waste. As a real example in 1 school in Swindon, they provide a choice of 4 different meals. so say you have 250 pupils on free school meals, they have to have ready 1000 meals. Some pupils may not even bother to have their lunch or not be in school so you will always have a minimum of 75% of the meals going to waste. A typical public sector waste, in principal of course its a good idea in reality it wastes £millions! The foodbank meals handed out are are drop in the ocean compared to the amount of food schools chuck in the bins each day![/p][/quote]Where did you pluck the figure 'minimum of 75%' from, thin air? Do you have evidence to back that up? PJC
  • Score: 2

12:35am Sat 8 Mar 14

house on the hill says...

PJC wrote:
house on the hill wrote:
The system is also a massive waste of money. If pupils are entitled to free school meals, the schools has to provide choices, which is clearly going to result in massive waste.

As a real example in 1 school in Swindon, they provide a choice of 4 different meals. so say you have 250 pupils on free school meals, they have to have ready 1000 meals. Some pupils may not even bother to have their lunch or not be in school so you will always have a minimum of 75% of the meals going to waste. A typical public sector waste, in principal of course its a good idea in reality it wastes £millions! The foodbank meals handed out are are drop in the ocean compared to the amount of food schools chuck in the bins each day!
Where did you pluck the figure 'minimum of 75%' from, thin air? Do you have evidence to back that up?
Basic maths! If the school is required to produce a selection of 4 choices for each pupil on FSM, then 3 out of the 4 will not be eaten and thrown away. I saw the evidence myself in a local school when being shown around the kitchens. Crazy I know but check out for yourself how much food is thrown away in schools.
[quote][p][bold]PJC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: The system is also a massive waste of money. If pupils are entitled to free school meals, the schools has to provide choices, which is clearly going to result in massive waste. As a real example in 1 school in Swindon, they provide a choice of 4 different meals. so say you have 250 pupils on free school meals, they have to have ready 1000 meals. Some pupils may not even bother to have their lunch or not be in school so you will always have a minimum of 75% of the meals going to waste. A typical public sector waste, in principal of course its a good idea in reality it wastes £millions! The foodbank meals handed out are are drop in the ocean compared to the amount of food schools chuck in the bins each day![/p][/quote]Where did you pluck the figure 'minimum of 75%' from, thin air? Do you have evidence to back that up?[/p][/quote]Basic maths! If the school is required to produce a selection of 4 choices for each pupil on FSM, then 3 out of the 4 will not be eaten and thrown away. I saw the evidence myself in a local school when being shown around the kitchens. Crazy I know but check out for yourself how much food is thrown away in schools. house on the hill
  • Score: 2

10:45am Mon 10 Mar 14

CocoaClown says...

house on the hill wrote:
PJC wrote:
house on the hill wrote:
The system is also a massive waste of money. If pupils are entitled to free school meals, the schools has to provide choices, which is clearly going to result in massive waste.

As a real example in 1 school in Swindon, they provide a choice of 4 different meals. so say you have 250 pupils on free school meals, they have to have ready 1000 meals. Some pupils may not even bother to have their lunch or not be in school so you will always have a minimum of 75% of the meals going to waste. A typical public sector waste, in principal of course its a good idea in reality it wastes £millions! The foodbank meals handed out are are drop in the ocean compared to the amount of food schools chuck in the bins each day!
Where did you pluck the figure 'minimum of 75%' from, thin air? Do you have evidence to back that up?
Basic maths! If the school is required to produce a selection of 4 choices for each pupil on FSM, then 3 out of the 4 will not be eaten and thrown away. I saw the evidence myself in a local school when being shown around the kitchens. Crazy I know but check out for yourself how much food is thrown away in schools.
I think you will find that most schools will have menus which are chosen from the week before so they will only cater for the number of a certain meal requested therefore won't have anywhere near as much wastage as you state. If a child is off due to sickness parents are expected to let the school know and if they are down for a dinner then the chef is informed so that no meal is prepared for that child. In fact if you pay for the meals, you are entitled to a refund if you inform them that the child is absent.
[quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PJC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: The system is also a massive waste of money. If pupils are entitled to free school meals, the schools has to provide choices, which is clearly going to result in massive waste. As a real example in 1 school in Swindon, they provide a choice of 4 different meals. so say you have 250 pupils on free school meals, they have to have ready 1000 meals. Some pupils may not even bother to have their lunch or not be in school so you will always have a minimum of 75% of the meals going to waste. A typical public sector waste, in principal of course its a good idea in reality it wastes £millions! The foodbank meals handed out are are drop in the ocean compared to the amount of food schools chuck in the bins each day![/p][/quote]Where did you pluck the figure 'minimum of 75%' from, thin air? Do you have evidence to back that up?[/p][/quote]Basic maths! If the school is required to produce a selection of 4 choices for each pupil on FSM, then 3 out of the 4 will not be eaten and thrown away. I saw the evidence myself in a local school when being shown around the kitchens. Crazy I know but check out for yourself how much food is thrown away in schools.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that most schools will have menus which are chosen from the week before so they will only cater for the number of a certain meal requested therefore won't have anywhere near as much wastage as you state. If a child is off due to sickness parents are expected to let the school know and if they are down for a dinner then the chef is informed so that no meal is prepared for that child. In fact if you pay for the meals, you are entitled to a refund if you inform them that the child is absent. CocoaClown
  • Score: 0

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