Firm to take over running of children’s centres

First published in News

SWINDON Council has announced the first cluster of children’s centres has been put out to tender.

The centres which have been provided for include the Penhill and Pinehurst Sure Start Centre as well as the Moredon, Gorse Hill and Drove Children’s Centres.

The new provider for the centres will be 4Children, which is a national provider of children’s centres, although these will be the first they operate in Swindon.

As it stands the council runs the Sure Start Centre, Moredon and Drove are operated by the White Horse Federation and Gorse Hill is run by Gorse Hill Primary School.

A spokesman for the council said: “We are looking forward to welcoming and working with them.

“Officers will be working closely with 4Children and the current providers over the next few months to ensure that there is as smooth a transition as possible. This will ensure that 4Children can start work on May 1, 2014, with the best possible opportunity to deliver a great service to families.”

The council announced plans last summer to reshape the running of all 14 of the town’s children centres to reduce costs and, despite public opposition, they have pushed forward with the proposals.

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10:41am Wed 12 Mar 14

trustnopolitician says...

This privitation of vital community services is always a concern. I hope the companies concerned will turn out to offer first class services.

How often and who will monitor the performance?
This privitation of vital community services is always a concern. I hope the companies concerned will turn out to offer first class services. How often and who will monitor the performance? trustnopolitician
  • Score: 4

10:42am Wed 12 Mar 14

trustnopolitician says...

privatisation - perhaps I should go back to school !
privatisation - perhaps I should go back to school ! trustnopolitician
  • Score: 0

11:30am Wed 12 Mar 14

A.Baron-Cohen says...

Tender away....music to the ears
Tender away....music to the ears A.Baron-Cohen
  • Score: -2

12:06pm Wed 12 Mar 14

house on the hill says...

A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Tender away....music to the ears
Disagree, this is a service that should be run as such and not just to make a profit for some shareholders and directors. We have seen the chaos trying to mix public and private sectors before, it will just give a worse service as Capita do to the tax payers of Swindon.
[quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: Tender away....music to the ears[/p][/quote]Disagree, this is a service that should be run as such and not just to make a profit for some shareholders and directors. We have seen the chaos trying to mix public and private sectors before, it will just give a worse service as Capita do to the tax payers of Swindon. house on the hill
  • Score: 0

12:22pm Wed 12 Mar 14

A.Baron-Cohen says...

house on the hill wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Tender away....music to the ears
Disagree, this is a service that should be run as such and not just to make a profit for some shareholders and directors. We have seen the chaos trying to mix public and private sectors before, it will just give a worse service as Capita do to the tax payers of Swindon.
The good old days when the State, council were running the show from start to finish are over.
Like it or not we shall see more "public" services run by private companies, this is not UK specific this is happening all over the world.
The size and costs of public services are no longer affordable, this is a prelude to the massive privatization of our public services (schools, justice, NHS etc.)
[quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: Tender away....music to the ears[/p][/quote]Disagree, this is a service that should be run as such and not just to make a profit for some shareholders and directors. We have seen the chaos trying to mix public and private sectors before, it will just give a worse service as Capita do to the tax payers of Swindon.[/p][/quote]The good old days when the State, council were running the show from start to finish are over. Like it or not we shall see more "public" services run by private companies, this is not UK specific this is happening all over the world. The size and costs of public services are no longer affordable, this is a prelude to the massive privatization of our public services (schools, justice, NHS etc.) A.Baron-Cohen
  • Score: 0

12:30pm Wed 12 Mar 14

ChannelX says...

Would anyone care to point out ANYTHING that is run:

a) very well
b) cost effectively

by the State?
Would anyone care to point out ANYTHING that is run: a) very well b) cost effectively by the State? ChannelX
  • Score: 1

12:39pm Wed 12 Mar 14

trolley dolley says...

This is an excellent idea.

Look at the way SEQOL has developed for social care.

The Council must get the contract right and then ensure it is followed to the letter.

No doubt jobs will feature in all this at some stage.
This is an excellent idea. Look at the way SEQOL has developed for social care. The Council must get the contract right and then ensure it is followed to the letter. No doubt jobs will feature in all this at some stage. trolley dolley
  • Score: 1

1:18pm Wed 12 Mar 14

house on the hill says...

A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
house on the hill wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Tender away....music to the ears
Disagree, this is a service that should be run as such and not just to make a profit for some shareholders and directors. We have seen the chaos trying to mix public and private sectors before, it will just give a worse service as Capita do to the tax payers of Swindon.
The good old days when the State, council were running the show from start to finish are over.
Like it or not we shall see more "public" services run by private companies, this is not UK specific this is happening all over the world.
The size and costs of public services are no longer affordable, this is a prelude to the massive privatization of our public services (schools, justice, NHS etc.)
The big question surely is if private firms can make a profit from running the service why couldn't the state/council run it without needing to make a profit, after all the private firms are still paid by the state for their services? Never really understood the logic of allowing councils to give a cr4p service and then just getting the private sector to sort it out. Why arent the councils sorted out and the useless staff got rid of?
[quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: Tender away....music to the ears[/p][/quote]Disagree, this is a service that should be run as such and not just to make a profit for some shareholders and directors. We have seen the chaos trying to mix public and private sectors before, it will just give a worse service as Capita do to the tax payers of Swindon.[/p][/quote]The good old days when the State, council were running the show from start to finish are over. Like it or not we shall see more "public" services run by private companies, this is not UK specific this is happening all over the world. The size and costs of public services are no longer affordable, this is a prelude to the massive privatization of our public services (schools, justice, NHS etc.)[/p][/quote]The big question surely is if private firms can make a profit from running the service why couldn't the state/council run it without needing to make a profit, after all the private firms are still paid by the state for their services? Never really understood the logic of allowing councils to give a cr4p service and then just getting the private sector to sort it out. Why arent the councils sorted out and the useless staff got rid of? house on the hill
  • Score: 2

2:25pm Wed 12 Mar 14

ChannelX says...

house on the hill wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
house on the hill wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Tender away....music to the ears
Disagree, this is a service that should be run as such and not just to make a profit for some shareholders and directors. We have seen the chaos trying to mix public and private sectors before, it will just give a worse service as Capita do to the tax payers of Swindon.
The good old days when the State, council were running the show from start to finish are over.
Like it or not we shall see more "public" services run by private companies, this is not UK specific this is happening all over the world.
The size and costs of public services are no longer affordable, this is a prelude to the massive privatization of our public services (schools, justice, NHS etc.)
The big question surely is if private firms can make a profit from running the service why couldn't the state/council run it without needing to make a profit, after all the private firms are still paid by the state for their services? Never really understood the logic of allowing councils to give a cr4p service and then just getting the private sector to sort it out. Why arent the councils sorted out and the useless staff got rid of?
"THAT'S. NOT. HOW. IT. WORKS."

Ensured every public sector union and employee ever.
[quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: Tender away....music to the ears[/p][/quote]Disagree, this is a service that should be run as such and not just to make a profit for some shareholders and directors. We have seen the chaos trying to mix public and private sectors before, it will just give a worse service as Capita do to the tax payers of Swindon.[/p][/quote]The good old days when the State, council were running the show from start to finish are over. Like it or not we shall see more "public" services run by private companies, this is not UK specific this is happening all over the world. The size and costs of public services are no longer affordable, this is a prelude to the massive privatization of our public services (schools, justice, NHS etc.)[/p][/quote]The big question surely is if private firms can make a profit from running the service why couldn't the state/council run it without needing to make a profit, after all the private firms are still paid by the state for their services? Never really understood the logic of allowing councils to give a cr4p service and then just getting the private sector to sort it out. Why arent the councils sorted out and the useless staff got rid of?[/p][/quote]"THAT'S. NOT. HOW. IT. WORKS." Ensured every public sector union and employee ever. ChannelX
  • Score: 0

2:26pm Wed 12 Mar 14

A.Baron-Cohen says...

house on the hill wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
house on the hill wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Tender away....music to the ears
Disagree, this is a service that should be run as such and not just to make a profit for some shareholders and directors. We have seen the chaos trying to mix public and private sectors before, it will just give a worse service as Capita do to the tax payers of Swindon.
The good old days when the State, council were running the show from start to finish are over.
Like it or not we shall see more "public" services run by private companies, this is not UK specific this is happening all over the world.
The size and costs of public services are no longer affordable, this is a prelude to the massive privatization of our public services (schools, justice, NHS etc.)
The big question surely is if private firms can make a profit from running the service why couldn't the state/council run it without needing to make a profit, after all the private firms are still paid by the state for their services? Never really understood the logic of allowing councils to give a cr4p service and then just getting the private sector to sort it out. Why arent the councils sorted out and the useless staff got rid of?
Because to run these services, you still need public servants and all the supporting infrastructure (IT, Facilities, HR etc...) and it costs way too much.
Imagine a civil engineering company, trying to cut costs by hiring its heavy machines from United Rental because to own such machines costs too much to insure, transport, maintain and finance etc...this is the basic idea of cost reduction.
[quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: Tender away....music to the ears[/p][/quote]Disagree, this is a service that should be run as such and not just to make a profit for some shareholders and directors. We have seen the chaos trying to mix public and private sectors before, it will just give a worse service as Capita do to the tax payers of Swindon.[/p][/quote]The good old days when the State, council were running the show from start to finish are over. Like it or not we shall see more "public" services run by private companies, this is not UK specific this is happening all over the world. The size and costs of public services are no longer affordable, this is a prelude to the massive privatization of our public services (schools, justice, NHS etc.)[/p][/quote]The big question surely is if private firms can make a profit from running the service why couldn't the state/council run it without needing to make a profit, after all the private firms are still paid by the state for their services? Never really understood the logic of allowing councils to give a cr4p service and then just getting the private sector to sort it out. Why arent the councils sorted out and the useless staff got rid of?[/p][/quote]Because to run these services, you still need public servants and all the supporting infrastructure (IT, Facilities, HR etc...) and it costs way too much. Imagine a civil engineering company, trying to cut costs by hiring its heavy machines from United Rental because to own such machines costs too much to insure, transport, maintain and finance etc...this is the basic idea of cost reduction. A.Baron-Cohen
  • Score: 0

2:32pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Davey Gravey says...

Yet another disgrace from our appalling Tory council. Roll on May!
Yet another disgrace from our appalling Tory council. Roll on May! Davey Gravey
  • Score: -5

8:56am Thu 13 Mar 14

ChannelX says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Yet another disgrace from our appalling Tory council. Roll on May!
Which party are you looking forward to having replace the Tories in May, Davey?
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Yet another disgrace from our appalling Tory council. Roll on May![/p][/quote]Which party are you looking forward to having replace the Tories in May, Davey? ChannelX
  • Score: -1

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