Council is urged to tackle Moonrakers Roundabout

Coun Mark Dempsey and Joe Tray at the Moonrakers roundabout

Coun Mark Dempsey and Joe Tray at the Moonrakers roundabout Buy this photo

First published in News Swindon Advertiser: Photograph of the Author by , @Michael_Benke

A MOTION is set to go before tonight’s council meeting calling for a report to be carried out, looking at ways to improve the Moonrakers Roundabout.

The junction on Cricklade Road is a regular source of frustration for drivers as the double roundabout, opposite the Moonrakers Pub, acts as a bottleneck for traffic going to and from the town centre.

Now a local councillor has said it is time for options to be evaluated on how to improve the junction so when the time comes it can be improved, a move supported by council leaders.

Coun Joe Tray (Lab, Penhill and Upper Stratton) will request that council officers and road planning experts take a look at what is best for the vital route into Swindon.

He said: “For many years the Moonrakers roundabout has caused drivers all sorts of problems. Residents know that during the evening and afternoon rush hours it is a no go area.

“Since the closure of the park and ride there is a bus lane which is now very rarely used which does not help. Then there are confusing lanes meaning drivers are left cutting into lanes which holds everything up.

“Cricklade Road is such an important route into Swindon and it makes no sense to have a confusing junction.”

Coun Tray says that over the years there have been a number of suggestions as to how to solve the problem which have never come off, so now is the time to at least have a solution.

He said: “We have had everything from traffic lights suggested to a fly-over but nothing has happened. There is a lot of talk about the roads in other parts of the town but we seem to be forgotten over here.

“I am not calling for vast sums of money to be spent because I know money is tight but if we can at least get something together so when the funds do become available we know we have something to move forward with.”

Those in the area have backed up the calls for something to be done. Satnam Bains, the manager of Clivey and Twist, which for many years was based opposite the roundabout says small knocks between cars were a regular occurence.

He said: “I regularly saw plenty of incidents of road rage from drivers and small knocks between cars. Something really should be done because the problems it causes happen every day.

“Hopefully if these plans are drawn up then something can be done on the issue.”

The cabinet member for transport, Coun Keith Williams (Con, Shaw) says the council is aware of the problems created by the junction and will support the motion.

He said: “There have been reports going back as far as 2005 which have highlighted this junction.

“When it comes to road issues it has been the case that fixing safety issues has taken priority over congestion, which is as it should be.

“I am more than happy to support this. We are aware of the problems it causes drivers and this should not be a party political issue.”

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7:05am Thu 3 Apr 14

GalaxyMan says...

You know what they'll come up with, don't you- pinch points and speed-bumps. Its their answer to everything.
You know what they'll come up with, don't you- pinch points and speed-bumps. Its their answer to everything. GalaxyMan
  • Score: 17

8:10am Thu 3 Apr 14

stfcdod says...

Please don't let the muppet who redesigned the Whalebridge area. anywhere near it!
Please don't let the muppet who redesigned the Whalebridge area. anywhere near it! stfcdod
  • Score: 30

8:43am Thu 3 Apr 14

Davethered says...

Swindon council to sort out a traffic problem. You're having a laugh.
Swindon council to sort out a traffic problem. You're having a laugh. Davethered
  • Score: 26

8:46am Thu 3 Apr 14

Always Grumpy says...

This junction is desperately in need of a complete re-design, but like the other posters, I despair at the thought of Swindon council trying to sort it out.
This junction is desperately in need of a complete re-design, but like the other posters, I despair at the thought of Swindon council trying to sort it out. Always Grumpy
  • Score: 20

9:09am Thu 3 Apr 14

Oik1 says...

Knock some of those tatty old building down and put a bloody great flyover in place, the traffic flow will be wonderous after the works.
More likely it'll be traffic lights, traffic lights everywhere and anywhere, not forgetting wooden fences in the run up to every junction.
Knock some of those tatty old building down and put a bloody great flyover in place, the traffic flow will be wonderous after the works. More likely it'll be traffic lights, traffic lights everywhere and anywhere, not forgetting wooden fences in the run up to every junction. Oik1
  • Score: 8

9:11am Thu 3 Apr 14

bradley red 1 says...

very dangerous roundabouts,where drivers accelerate to get round and do not give a toss about who right of way it is! something needs to be done to stop the accidents that occur on a regular basis.
very dangerous roundabouts,where drivers accelerate to get round and do not give a toss about who right of way it is! something needs to be done to stop the accidents that occur on a regular basis. bradley red 1
  • Score: 9

9:24am Thu 3 Apr 14

umpcah says...

Davethered wrote:
Swindon council to sort out a traffic problem. You're having a laugh.
I read this at 9.23 am and I`m still laughing ! It`s gonna be good !
[quote][p][bold]Davethered[/bold] wrote: Swindon council to sort out a traffic problem. You're having a laugh.[/p][/quote]I read this at 9.23 am and I`m still laughing ! It`s gonna be good ! umpcah
  • Score: 10

9:31am Thu 3 Apr 14

umpcah says...

stfcdod wrote:
Please don't let the muppet who redesigned the Whalebridge area. anywhere near it!
If he`s the cheapest he`ll be top of the shortlist. Bruce Street bridges and Magic Roundabout are also earmarked for " improvements " . Swindon car drivers don't stand a chance i.m.o.
[quote][p][bold]stfcdod[/bold] wrote: Please don't let the muppet who redesigned the Whalebridge area. anywhere near it![/p][/quote]If he`s the cheapest he`ll be top of the shortlist. Bruce Street bridges and Magic Roundabout are also earmarked for " improvements " . Swindon car drivers don't stand a chance i.m.o. umpcah
  • Score: 9

10:05am Thu 3 Apr 14

ChannelX says...

No doubt the 'solution' will involve:

a) traffic lights
b) deliberately making the roundabout more dangerous

Just like they've done with every other roundabout, that doesn't work, in the town.
No doubt the 'solution' will involve: a) traffic lights b) deliberately making the roundabout more dangerous Just like they've done with every other roundabout, that doesn't work, in the town. ChannelX
  • Score: 14

10:20am Thu 3 Apr 14

swindondad says...

1. Remove the double offset roundabout and replace it with a single larger roundabout (peak time only traffic lights if you must).

2. Get rid of the bus lane and existing road markings and make Cricklade Road duel carriageway where space allows and one lane each North and South with a central “Peak Flow” lane to help with the high volumes in (south) am and out (north) pm.
1. Remove the double offset roundabout and replace it with a single larger roundabout (peak time only traffic lights if you must). 2. Get rid of the bus lane and existing road markings and make Cricklade Road duel carriageway where space allows and one lane each North and South with a central “Peak Flow” lane to help with the high volumes in (south) am and out (north) pm. swindondad
  • Score: 21

10:40am Thu 3 Apr 14

StillPav says...

Rather than an expensive report, why not simply convert the two small roundabouts into one large roundabout and see how it goes?

This could be done for minimal cost and left for six months to gauge the effect.
Rather than an expensive report, why not simply convert the two small roundabouts into one large roundabout and see how it goes? This could be done for minimal cost and left for six months to gauge the effect. StillPav
  • Score: 10

10:53am Thu 3 Apr 14

umpcah says...

StillPav wrote:
Rather than an expensive report, why not simply convert the two small roundabouts into one large roundabout and see how it goes?

This could be done for minimal cost and left for six months to gauge the effect.
I doubt that sensible suggestions would be welcomed by The Council. Forget it !
[quote][p][bold]StillPav[/bold] wrote: Rather than an expensive report, why not simply convert the two small roundabouts into one large roundabout and see how it goes? This could be done for minimal cost and left for six months to gauge the effect.[/p][/quote]I doubt that sensible suggestions would be welcomed by The Council. Forget it ! umpcah
  • Score: 11

11:12am Thu 3 Apr 14

beach1e says...

glad its not just me that thinks Swindon council are not capable of doing anything properly judging by the remarks here. Has to be one of the most inept councils in England . I think their aim tho is to keep people from the north of the town out of the town centre...they are succeeding in that at least.
glad its not just me that thinks Swindon council are not capable of doing anything properly judging by the remarks here. Has to be one of the most inept councils in England . I think their aim tho is to keep people from the north of the town out of the town centre...they are succeeding in that at least. beach1e
  • Score: 10

11:17am Thu 3 Apr 14

Robh says...

Give priority to traffic going in and out on Cricklade Road. Much of the cross traffic is avoiding the main road.
Give priority to traffic going in and out on Cricklade Road. Much of the cross traffic is avoiding the main road. Robh
  • Score: -3

11:18am Thu 3 Apr 14

madreeves says...

It's the drivers who come up Cricklade Road from the town and, instead of getting straight into the left hand lane when approaching the Parade, just aggressively continue charging up on the right to the Headlands Grove roundabout where they then fully expect to be able to push back into the left that annoy me. There's nothing worse than sitting patiently in traffic only for some t**t to do that. I sat there at rush hour not long ago when a Range Rover came up, fully expecting to just push in but nobody would let him, so he decided to try to do a 360 on that little roundabout and ended up blocking a bus trying to get down Cricklade Road and both lanes going up for at least 2 or 3 minutes until the traffic moving towards the Moonrakers had inched forward. Most of the dings and scrapes will be from people resisting those bully boys trying to shoulder their way in. The whole area has needed sorting out for years.
It's the drivers who come up Cricklade Road from the town and, instead of getting straight into the left hand lane when approaching the Parade, just aggressively continue charging up on the right to the Headlands Grove roundabout where they then fully expect to be able to push back into the left that annoy me. There's nothing worse than sitting patiently in traffic only for some t**t to do that. I sat there at rush hour not long ago when a Range Rover came up, fully expecting to just push in but nobody would let him, so he decided to try to do a 360 on that little roundabout and ended up blocking a bus trying to get down Cricklade Road and both lanes going up for at least 2 or 3 minutes until the traffic moving towards the Moonrakers had inched forward. Most of the dings and scrapes will be from people resisting those bully boys trying to shoulder their way in. The whole area has needed sorting out for years. madreeves
  • Score: 20

12:43pm Thu 3 Apr 14

StillPav says...

madreeves - I have noticed that behaviour, especially amoungst taxi drivers. They use the wrong lane to approach a roundabout instead of queueing in the correct lane and then perform a 360-degree maneuver at the roundabout to cut in front of traffic.
madreeves - I have noticed that behaviour, especially amoungst taxi drivers. They use the wrong lane to approach a roundabout instead of queueing in the correct lane and then perform a 360-degree maneuver at the roundabout to cut in front of traffic. StillPav
  • Score: 7

12:48pm Thu 3 Apr 14

KAG888 says...

swindondad wrote:
1. Remove the double offset roundabout and replace it with a single larger roundabout (peak time only traffic lights if you must).

2. Get rid of the bus lane and existing road markings and make Cricklade Road duel carriageway where space allows and one lane each North and South with a central “Peak Flow” lane to help with the high volumes in (south) am and out (north) pm.
That solution would appear to be far too simple
[quote][p][bold]swindondad[/bold] wrote: 1. Remove the double offset roundabout and replace it with a single larger roundabout (peak time only traffic lights if you must). 2. Get rid of the bus lane and existing road markings and make Cricklade Road duel carriageway where space allows and one lane each North and South with a central “Peak Flow” lane to help with the high volumes in (south) am and out (north) pm.[/p][/quote]That solution would appear to be far too simple KAG888
  • Score: 7

1:26pm Thu 3 Apr 14

Arrowfield says...

Agree about the Headlands right turn. Normally its some thug in a white van, who is not the sort to join an orderly queue. Its more annoying when the car in front just lets them in. If everyone blocked them they might think twice- although I doubt it!
Agree about the Headlands right turn. Normally its some thug in a white van, who is not the sort to join an orderly queue. Its more annoying when the car in front just lets them in. If everyone blocked them they might think twice- although I doubt it! Arrowfield
  • Score: 9

1:26pm Thu 3 Apr 14

Ardiles says...

The flyover solution was discussed back in the late 1980s, as I recall. The thinking back then (I think) was that construction of such a flyover would be unacceptable because it would involve the demolition of the parade of shops. That parade of shops, 25 years later, is probably nearing the end of its natural life anyway - so maybe consideration should be given to this once again.

I appreciate that schemes like this are not popular with decision makers. Doing nothing is so much easier. But if something had actually been done to this junction - perhaps at around the same time as the Great Western Way was extended to loop around and form a bypass of Gorse Hill - then there wouldn't be the same issues here that there are today.

Swindon Town Centre has atrophied and decayed in recent years, while other centres (such as Reading and Bristol) have forged ahead. The lack of improvements to Swindon's road infrastructure, making it increasingly difficult to reach the centre of Swindon as traffic volumes have risen - is surely part of the reason for this.
The flyover solution was discussed back in the late 1980s, as I recall. The thinking back then (I think) was that construction of such a flyover would be unacceptable because it would involve the demolition of the parade of shops. That parade of shops, 25 years later, is probably nearing the end of its natural life anyway - so maybe consideration should be given to this once again. I appreciate that schemes like this are not popular with decision makers. Doing nothing is so much easier. But if something had actually been done to this junction - perhaps at around the same time as the Great Western Way was extended to loop around and form a bypass of Gorse Hill - then there wouldn't be the same issues here that there are today. Swindon Town Centre has atrophied and decayed in recent years, while other centres (such as Reading and Bristol) have forged ahead. The lack of improvements to Swindon's road infrastructure, making it increasingly difficult to reach the centre of Swindon as traffic volumes have risen - is surely part of the reason for this. Ardiles
  • Score: 3

1:29pm Thu 3 Apr 14

MJG-UK says...

my kids don't call them mini roundabouts they're called overabouts as no one seems to follow the highway code. all the junctions in the penhill / pinehurst area's need sorting out.
my kids don't call them mini roundabouts they're called overabouts as no one seems to follow the highway code. all the junctions in the penhill / pinehurst area's need sorting out. MJG-UK
  • Score: 0

1:36pm Thu 3 Apr 14

house on the hill says...

madreeves wrote:
It's the drivers who come up Cricklade Road from the town and, instead of getting straight into the left hand lane when approaching the Parade, just aggressively continue charging up on the right to the Headlands Grove roundabout where they then fully expect to be able to push back into the left that annoy me. There's nothing worse than sitting patiently in traffic only for some t**t to do that. I sat there at rush hour not long ago when a Range Rover came up, fully expecting to just push in but nobody would let him, so he decided to try to do a 360 on that little roundabout and ended up blocking a bus trying to get down Cricklade Road and both lanes going up for at least 2 or 3 minutes until the traffic moving towards the Moonrakers had inched forward. Most of the dings and scrapes will be from people resisting those bully boys trying to shoulder their way in. The whole area has needed sorting out for years.
I think you have answered the question there. The problem isn't the roundabouts, but the ignorant tw4ts who use it as with most traffic problems!
[quote][p][bold]madreeves[/bold] wrote: It's the drivers who come up Cricklade Road from the town and, instead of getting straight into the left hand lane when approaching the Parade, just aggressively continue charging up on the right to the Headlands Grove roundabout where they then fully expect to be able to push back into the left that annoy me. There's nothing worse than sitting patiently in traffic only for some t**t to do that. I sat there at rush hour not long ago when a Range Rover came up, fully expecting to just push in but nobody would let him, so he decided to try to do a 360 on that little roundabout and ended up blocking a bus trying to get down Cricklade Road and both lanes going up for at least 2 or 3 minutes until the traffic moving towards the Moonrakers had inched forward. Most of the dings and scrapes will be from people resisting those bully boys trying to shoulder their way in. The whole area has needed sorting out for years.[/p][/quote]I think you have answered the question there. The problem isn't the roundabouts, but the ignorant tw4ts who use it as with most traffic problems! house on the hill
  • Score: 3

1:42pm Thu 3 Apr 14

Captain T says...

I'd have thought it would be simpler to scrap the roundabout idea and just have a set of lighted crossroads. Mind you, I thought the council talked about crossroads and realigning Corporation Street as part of Whalebridge, so their idea of crossroads might not be the same as everyone elses.
I'd have thought it would be simpler to scrap the roundabout idea and just have a set of lighted crossroads. Mind you, I thought the council talked about crossroads and realigning Corporation Street as part of Whalebridge, so their idea of crossroads might not be the same as everyone elses. Captain T
  • Score: 2

3:05pm Thu 3 Apr 14

GrumpyLocal says...

Robh wrote:
Give priority to traffic going in and out on Cricklade Road. Much of the cross traffic is avoiding the main road.
Rubbish, the amount of traffic turning right from Whitworth Road is huge.
[quote][p][bold]Robh[/bold] wrote: Give priority to traffic going in and out on Cricklade Road. Much of the cross traffic is avoiding the main road.[/p][/quote]Rubbish, the amount of traffic turning right from Whitworth Road is huge. GrumpyLocal
  • Score: 2

3:05pm Thu 3 Apr 14

GrumpyLocal says...

Robh wrote:
Give priority to traffic going in and out on Cricklade Road. Much of the cross traffic is avoiding the main road.
Rubbish, the amount of traffic turning right from Whitworth Road is huge.
[quote][p][bold]Robh[/bold] wrote: Give priority to traffic going in and out on Cricklade Road. Much of the cross traffic is avoiding the main road.[/p][/quote]Rubbish, the amount of traffic turning right from Whitworth Road is huge. GrumpyLocal
  • Score: 0

3:07pm Thu 3 Apr 14

GrumpyLocal says...

StillPav wrote:
Rather than an expensive report, why not simply convert the two small roundabouts into one large roundabout and see how it goes?

This could be done for minimal cost and left for six months to gauge the effect.
Simply cant be done. Not enough space for a big enough roundabout to be positioned to cover all entrance points and provide a sensible turning circle for larger vehicles.
[quote][p][bold]StillPav[/bold] wrote: Rather than an expensive report, why not simply convert the two small roundabouts into one large roundabout and see how it goes? This could be done for minimal cost and left for six months to gauge the effect.[/p][/quote]Simply cant be done. Not enough space for a big enough roundabout to be positioned to cover all entrance points and provide a sensible turning circle for larger vehicles. GrumpyLocal
  • Score: 2

3:32pm Thu 3 Apr 14

swindondad says...

GrumpyLocal wrote:
StillPav wrote: Rather than an expensive report, why not simply convert the two small roundabouts into one large roundabout and see how it goes? This could be done for minimal cost and left for six months to gauge the effect.
Simply cant be done. Not enough space for a big enough roundabout to be positioned to cover all entrance points and provide a sensible turning circle for larger vehicles.
A single oval traffic island orientated n/e by s/w would fit and give the required turning circles.
[quote][p][bold]GrumpyLocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StillPav[/bold] wrote: Rather than an expensive report, why not simply convert the two small roundabouts into one large roundabout and see how it goes? This could be done for minimal cost and left for six months to gauge the effect.[/p][/quote]Simply cant be done. Not enough space for a big enough roundabout to be positioned to cover all entrance points and provide a sensible turning circle for larger vehicles.[/p][/quote]A single oval traffic island orientated n/e by s/w would fit and give the required turning circles. swindondad
  • Score: 0

3:54pm Thu 3 Apr 14

GrumpyLocal says...

swindondad wrote:
GrumpyLocal wrote:
StillPav wrote: Rather than an expensive report, why not simply convert the two small roundabouts into one large roundabout and see how it goes? This could be done for minimal cost and left for six months to gauge the effect.
Simply cant be done. Not enough space for a big enough roundabout to be positioned to cover all entrance points and provide a sensible turning circle for larger vehicles.
A single oval traffic island orientated n/e by s/w would fit and give the required turning circles.
There is no way an oval island would give large vehicles turning from Whitworth Road, right on to Cricklade Rd the ability to either go around the island or anywhere near it. From all other directions, yes it would be fine but it has to work from all directions.
[quote][p][bold]swindondad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GrumpyLocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StillPav[/bold] wrote: Rather than an expensive report, why not simply convert the two small roundabouts into one large roundabout and see how it goes? This could be done for minimal cost and left for six months to gauge the effect.[/p][/quote]Simply cant be done. Not enough space for a big enough roundabout to be positioned to cover all entrance points and provide a sensible turning circle for larger vehicles.[/p][/quote]A single oval traffic island orientated n/e by s/w would fit and give the required turning circles.[/p][/quote]There is no way an oval island would give large vehicles turning from Whitworth Road, right on to Cricklade Rd the ability to either go around the island or anywhere near it. From all other directions, yes it would be fine but it has to work from all directions. GrumpyLocal
  • Score: 3

7:38pm Thu 3 Apr 14

faatmaan says...

easiest answer would be for a zero tolerance enforcement by the Police until the message is rammed home beyond reasonable doubt that dangerous driving is illegal, but that WILL NOT HAPPEN>
easiest answer would be for a zero tolerance enforcement by the Police until the message is rammed home beyond reasonable doubt that dangerous driving is illegal, but that WILL NOT HAPPEN> faatmaan
  • Score: 0

8:32pm Thu 3 Apr 14

Ollie Dognacky says...

I'm amazed how many traffic experts read these thread.
Leave it to the elected officials.
They will do a good job
I'm amazed how many traffic experts read these thread. Leave it to the elected officials. They will do a good job Ollie Dognacky
  • Score: -9

8:42pm Thu 3 Apr 14

umpcah says...

Ollie Dognacky wrote:
I'm amazed how many traffic experts read these thread.
Leave it to the elected officials.
They will do a good job
They will do a good job ? ? ? ? ? ?
[quote][p][bold]Ollie Dognacky[/bold] wrote: I'm amazed how many traffic experts read these thread. Leave it to the elected officials. They will do a good job[/p][/quote]They will do a good job ? ? ? ? ? ? umpcah
  • Score: 5

9:56pm Thu 3 Apr 14

MrAngry says...

Ollie Dognacky wrote:
I'm amazed how many traffic experts read these thread.
Leave it to the elected officials.
They will do a good job
How many of the elected officials are traffic experts?

They can't even set a date to discuss the mayor's conduct.
[quote][p][bold]Ollie Dognacky[/bold] wrote: I'm amazed how many traffic experts read these thread. Leave it to the elected officials. They will do a good job[/p][/quote]How many of the elected officials are traffic experts? They can't even set a date to discuss the mayor's conduct. MrAngry
  • Score: 8

10:01pm Thu 3 Apr 14

Ollie Dognacky says...

Of course they will.
That's why they were elected.
Those who feel they could do better should make their policies public and try getting elected
Of course they will. That's why they were elected. Those who feel they could do better should make their policies public and try getting elected Ollie Dognacky
  • Score: -9

10:24pm Thu 3 Apr 14

Robh says...

GrumpyLocal wrote:
Robh wrote:
Give priority to traffic going in and out on Cricklade Road. Much of the cross traffic is avoiding the main road.
Rubbish, the amount of traffic turning right from Whitworth Road is huge.
Twit you've answered the point I made. How much uses Whitworth Road because Cricklade Road is jammed up.
[quote][p][bold]GrumpyLocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robh[/bold] wrote: Give priority to traffic going in and out on Cricklade Road. Much of the cross traffic is avoiding the main road.[/p][/quote]Rubbish, the amount of traffic turning right from Whitworth Road is huge.[/p][/quote]Twit you've answered the point I made. How much uses Whitworth Road because Cricklade Road is jammed up. Robh
  • Score: 0

10:54pm Thu 3 Apr 14

The Jockster says...

Ollie Dognacky wrote:
I'm amazed how many traffic experts read these thread.
Leave it to the elected officials.
They will do a good job
Stupid boy Pike!
[quote][p][bold]Ollie Dognacky[/bold] wrote: I'm amazed how many traffic experts read these thread. Leave it to the elected officials. They will do a good job[/p][/quote]Stupid boy Pike! The Jockster
  • Score: 6

5:38am Fri 4 Apr 14

Airframe-dtm says...

Has anyone coming along Whitworth and Beachcroft Road noticed the bus stops are the majority opposite a traffic island?

When a bus stops to pick up passengers, you cannot get past and causes a queue!

Drivers clearly indicating the planned route helps avoid any hesitation at Moonrakers Roundabout as well, mind you that is common on every roundabout in Swindon!

AFDTM
Has anyone coming along Whitworth and Beachcroft Road noticed the bus stops are the majority opposite a traffic island? When a bus stops to pick up passengers, you cannot get past and causes a queue! Drivers clearly indicating the planned route helps avoid any hesitation at Moonrakers Roundabout as well, mind you that is common on every roundabout in Swindon! AFDTM Airframe-dtm
  • Score: 1

8:16am Fri 4 Apr 14

Mappy says...

Of course in the 'Driving towards 2000' plans for the Moonies junction, the flyovers were discounted. However a park and ride and a bus lane were planned and put in to take cars off the road - 1 bus = 54 cars not there.
Bringing back the park and ride might not solve al the probs but would be cheaper (Also solve the No 24 prob) and probably be a lot cheaper.
Of course in the 'Driving towards 2000' plans for the Moonies junction, the flyovers were discounted. However a park and ride and a bus lane were planned and put in to take cars off the road - 1 bus = 54 cars not there. Bringing back the park and ride might not solve al the probs but would be cheaper (Also solve the No 24 prob) and probably be a lot cheaper. Mappy
  • Score: 0

9:02am Fri 4 Apr 14

umpcah says...

Mappy wrote:
Of course in the 'Driving towards 2000' plans for the Moonies junction, the flyovers were discounted. However a park and ride and a bus lane were planned and put in to take cars off the road - 1 bus = 54 cars not there.
Bringing back the park and ride might not solve al the probs but would be cheaper (Also solve the No 24 prob) and probably be a lot cheaper.
Leave it to the elected officials.
They will do a good job
Why so many ballsups on their part in the first place ?
[quote][p][bold]Mappy[/bold] wrote: Of course in the 'Driving towards 2000' plans for the Moonies junction, the flyovers were discounted. However a park and ride and a bus lane were planned and put in to take cars off the road - 1 bus = 54 cars not there. Bringing back the park and ride might not solve al the probs but would be cheaper (Also solve the No 24 prob) and probably be a lot cheaper.[/p][/quote]Leave it to the elected officials. They will do a good job [ says Ollie ] Why so many ballsups on their part in the first place ? umpcah
  • Score: 1

12:46pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Ollie Dognacky says...

Do you think you could do better?
Do you think you could do better? Ollie Dognacky
  • Score: 0

1:29pm Fri 4 Apr 14

umpcah says...

Ollie Dognacky wrote:
Do you think you could do better?
Probably not but I`m not paid megabucks to do it am I ?
[quote][p][bold]Ollie Dognacky[/bold] wrote: Do you think you could do better?[/p][/quote]Probably not but I`m not paid megabucks to do it am I ? umpcah
  • Score: 1

2:22pm Fri 4 Apr 14

PJC says...

bradley red 1 wrote:
very dangerous roundabouts,where drivers accelerate to get round and do not give a toss about who right of way it is! something needs to be done to stop the accidents that occur on a regular basis.
Like teach people how to not drive like idiots, and have some patience?...
[quote][p][bold]bradley red 1[/bold] wrote: very dangerous roundabouts,where drivers accelerate to get round and do not give a toss about who right of way it is! something needs to be done to stop the accidents that occur on a regular basis.[/p][/quote]Like teach people how to not drive like idiots, and have some patience?... PJC
  • Score: 1

4:16pm Sat 5 Apr 14

BeardyBill says...

I'd like to see a high level monorail, running from Highworth, through Stratton and into the town centre. Wouldn't solve the Moonies roundabout problem, but it would look smart!
I'd like to see a high level monorail, running from Highworth, through Stratton and into the town centre. Wouldn't solve the Moonies roundabout problem, but it would look smart! BeardyBill
  • Score: 2

6:50pm Sat 5 Apr 14

house on the hill says...

BeardyBill wrote:
I'd like to see a high level monorail, running from Highworth, through Stratton and into the town centre. Wouldn't solve the Moonies roundabout problem, but it would look smart!
Whatever you are taking I would cut the dose lol!
[quote][p][bold]BeardyBill[/bold] wrote: I'd like to see a high level monorail, running from Highworth, through Stratton and into the town centre. Wouldn't solve the Moonies roundabout problem, but it would look smart![/p][/quote]Whatever you are taking I would cut the dose lol! house on the hill
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6:52pm Sat 5 Apr 14

house on the hill says...

Ollie Dognacky wrote:
I'm amazed how many traffic experts read these thread.
Leave it to the elected officials.
They will do a good job
What ones who make our town the laughing stock of many a joke? They are the problem, not the solution!
[quote][p][bold]Ollie Dognacky[/bold] wrote: I'm amazed how many traffic experts read these thread. Leave it to the elected officials. They will do a good job[/p][/quote]What ones who make our town the laughing stock of many a joke? They are the problem, not the solution! house on the hill
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