THE LIST: Top 10 most expensive houses currently on the market in Swindon

The £799,950 four bedroom detached house, Field Rise, Old Town

The £799,950 four bedroom detached house, Field Rise, Old Town

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WE'VE scoured the housing market in Swindon to bring you the 10 most expensive properties currently for sale in the town. Viewing highly recommended...

Swindon Advertiser:

1. £799,950. Four bedroom detached house, Field Rise, Old Town.

Estate agent blurb: DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY - A fantastic opportunity to purchase this imposing 1950's four bedroomed detached property located on one of Old Towns most sought after roads. The Pines is situated in approximately 3/4 acre and has beautiful mature gardens with views over Westleaze and Wroughton. The property is in need of some updating and offers great potential. In addition to the main house there is a planning consent for a separate 2100 sq ft detached dwelling.

 

Swindon Advertiser:

2. £785,000. Nine bedroom semi detached house, Bath Road, Old Town. 

Estate agent blurb: This fine example of a Victorian semi-detached property is situated on one of Old Town's most prominent roads and beautifully restored by the current owners. The property also includes a self contained one bedroom apartment achieving £748pcm incl and detached Coach House Annexe with Two Bedrooms currently let at £900 pcm incl, which can be converted back to Double Garage. The Main House comprises Six Bedrooms, stunning Sitting Room with Bay and luxury fitted Kitchen/Breakfast Room, Two Ensuites and Family Bathrooms. Features include a good sized enclosed Rear Garden and a viewing is highly recommended to appreciate this fine property by the vendors Sole Agents.

 

Swindon Advertiser:

3. £699,999. Eleven bedroom house, Highworth Road. 

Estate agent blurb: A fantastic opportunity to purchase this attractive property in the popular Stratton area of Swindon. Currently in use as a successful guest house, there is great potential to turn to other uses. The flexible space has currently 12 ensuite guest bedrooms, kitchen and dining room. There is the bonus of a 2 bedroom annexe, ample off road parking and garden.

 

Swindon Advertiser:

4. £595,000. Four bedroom terraced house, Wood Street, Old Town. 

Estate agent blurb: A substantial, beautifully presented period home situated in the heart of Old Town. The property has been restored to the highest of standards with a large 2 storey rear extension providing a superb fitted kitchen with lavish living space. A master bedroom suite with nursery, dressing room and en-suite bathroom. Viewing recommended.

 

Swindon Advertiser:

5. £550,000. Five bedroom detached house, Marlborough Road. 

Estate agent blurb: A spacious and well proportioned detached house with flexible living space and a large private garden, with potential for self contained annexe. Ground floor, porch, entrance hall, two reception rooms, kitchen/breakfast room, W/C. Downstairs, hall, study, bedroom, shower room, laundry room, garage. Upstairs, landing, four bedrooms, family bathroom.

 

Swindon Advertiser:

6. £525,000. Five bedroom detached house, Vanbrugh Gate, Broome Manor. 

Estate agent blurb: A much improved and significantly enlarged family house tucked away in a quiet spot overlooking woodland. Five double bedrooms, three bathrooms, (two en-suite), four reception rooms, kitchen/breakfast room, WC, large front and rear garden overlooking woodland.

 

Swindon Advertiser:

7. £499,950. Eight bedroom detached house, Highworth Road, Stratton St Margaret. 

Estate agent blurb: 'Rulfcott Lodge' is an impressive eight bedroom detached home sat on a beautiful mature plot on the very edge of Stratton St Margaret and within fifteen minutes of the picturesque Cotswolds. All bedrooms benefit from en-suite shower rooms / bathrooms as the property is currently being used as a fully licensed bed & breakfast.

 

Swindon Advertiser:

8. £499,950. Four bedroom detached house, Hesketh Crescent, Old Town. 

Estate agent blurb: Offered for sale is this character detached stone built family home situated in the heart of Old Town, standing on an exceptionally large plot with a double integral garage and workshop. This four bedroom house originally dates back to the 1840's and has been greatly extended over the last 25 years by the current owner. Benefitting from generous ground floor living space and lower ground floor games room with conversion potential. A rare opportunity to acquire a substantial detached family home.

 

Swindon Advertiser:

9.  £450,000. Five bedroom detached house, Whitworth Road. 

Estate agent blurb: An individually designed five bedroom detached house situated in a private location along Whitworth Road. A large driveway accessed via a remote entry system from the house and providing parking for 8-10 cars. 

 

Swindon Advertiser:

10. £450,000. Three bedroom semi-detached house, Old Town.

Estate agent blurb: A 200 year old Grade II listed stone cottage enviably located overlooking The Lawns. The property has been recently renovated and offers spacious open plan living space with a fully fitted kitchen, three bedrooms, ensuite and family bathroom.  There is a private West facing rear garden and planning permission in place for a rear conservatory, partly constructed.

 

  • Prices and information from Right Move, all correct at time of publication.

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1:38pm Mon 19 May 14

Hearditallbefore says...

And the point is?
And the point is? Hearditallbefore
  • Score: 2

2:12pm Mon 19 May 14

BCDR99 says...

Hearditallbefore wrote:
And the point is?
You could write that comment on about 95% of what is on this site to be fair.
[quote][p][bold]Hearditallbefore[/bold] wrote: And the point is?[/p][/quote]You could write that comment on about 95% of what is on this site to be fair. BCDR99
  • Score: 21

2:49pm Mon 19 May 14

Hearditallbefore says...

Yes fair shout.
Yes fair shout. Hearditallbefore
  • Score: 6

3:16pm Mon 19 May 14

Arrowfield says...

lazy article. not much else going on I assume? Doesn't say much for the town when £450,000 gets you in to the top ten most expensive houses.
lazy article. not much else going on I assume? Doesn't say much for the town when £450,000 gets you in to the top ten most expensive houses. Arrowfield
  • Score: 10

3:33pm Mon 19 May 14

SimoJeff says...

'Scoured the housing market' = got the work experience kid to do a quick search on Rightmove this morning
'Scoured the housing market' = got the work experience kid to do a quick search on Rightmove this morning SimoJeff
  • Score: 22

4:49pm Mon 19 May 14

Craig Lyus says...

Just to answer some of the disparaging remarks, the article is prefixed THE LIST and is a regular part of our features output.
We're not trying to pass it off as news, it is merely a light item that some may wish to browse during their lunchbreak and it helps break up the heavier stories on the homepage, particularly on a crime-heavy day.
These lists are increasingly popular across news websites where there is no limit on pagination and 'the point' is purely to attract hits, which drives up our figures and improves the site's commercial viability. This is illustrated by the fact that the article is the third best read across all sections online today with several thousand views in the space of three hours. Ultimately we're a business reacting to our customers' reading habits.
And just to pre-warn you, we have a 'Swindon's top 20 restaurants' in the pipeline...
- Craig Lyus, digital editor
Just to answer some of the disparaging remarks, the article is prefixed THE LIST and is a regular part of our features output. We're not trying to pass it off as news, it is merely a light item that some may wish to browse during their lunchbreak and it helps break up the heavier stories on the homepage, particularly on a crime-heavy day. These lists are increasingly popular across news websites where there is no limit on pagination and 'the point' is purely to attract hits, which drives up our figures and improves the site's commercial viability. This is illustrated by the fact that the article is the third best read across all sections online today with several thousand views in the space of three hours. Ultimately we're a business reacting to our customers' reading habits. And just to pre-warn you, we have a 'Swindon's top 20 restaurants' in the pipeline... - Craig Lyus, digital editor Craig Lyus
  • Score: 28

4:55pm Mon 19 May 14

IfItsONtheNet says...

BCDR99 wrote:
Hearditallbefore wrote:
And the point is?
You could write that comment on about 95% of what is on this site to be fair.
See, Very slow news day.....
Although if you are the estate agent you would probably be happy.

Silk hat on a pig
Most handsome in the burns unit
There are many other phrases that come to mind but if £500K puts you elite housing class it says allot about the town and the mindset of the person wanting the property.
The property on Bath rd has been on sale for along time so is it over priced or bad area?
[quote][p][bold]BCDR99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hearditallbefore[/bold] wrote: And the point is?[/p][/quote]You could write that comment on about 95% of what is on this site to be fair.[/p][/quote]See, Very slow news day..... Although if you are the estate agent you would probably be happy. Silk hat on a pig Most handsome in the burns unit There are many other phrases that come to mind but if £500K puts you elite housing class it says allot about the town and the mindset of the person wanting the property. The property on Bath rd has been on sale for along time so is it over priced or bad area? IfItsONtheNet
  • Score: 0

5:03pm Mon 19 May 14

IfItsONtheNet says...

Craig Lyus wrote:
Just to answer some of the disparaging remarks, the article is prefixed THE LIST and is a regular part of our features output.
We're not trying to pass it off as news, it is merely a light item that some may wish to browse during their lunchbreak and it helps break up the heavier stories on the homepage, particularly on a crime-heavy day.
These lists are increasingly popular across news websites where there is no limit on pagination and 'the point' is purely to attract hits, which drives up our figures and improves the site's commercial viability. This is illustrated by the fact that the article is the third best read across all sections online today with several thousand views in the space of three hours. Ultimately we're a business reacting to our customers' reading habits.
And just to pre-warn you, we have a 'Swindon's top 20 restaurants' in the pipeline...
- Craig Lyus, digital editor
Everyone loves property ****....
With all the comments that are put on the various sections of the site its odd that this is the one highlighted.

I am pretty certain a top 20 restaurants could be knocked up in an hour and most of us could name it off the top of our collective heads.
The comments section will no doubt be as funny as ever.
[quote][p][bold]Craig Lyus[/bold] wrote: Just to answer some of the disparaging remarks, the article is prefixed THE LIST and is a regular part of our features output. We're not trying to pass it off as news, it is merely a light item that some may wish to browse during their lunchbreak and it helps break up the heavier stories on the homepage, particularly on a crime-heavy day. These lists are increasingly popular across news websites where there is no limit on pagination and 'the point' is purely to attract hits, which drives up our figures and improves the site's commercial viability. This is illustrated by the fact that the article is the third best read across all sections online today with several thousand views in the space of three hours. Ultimately we're a business reacting to our customers' reading habits. And just to pre-warn you, we have a 'Swindon's top 20 restaurants' in the pipeline... - Craig Lyus, digital editor[/p][/quote]Everyone loves property ****.... With all the comments that are put on the various sections of the site its odd that this is the one highlighted. I am pretty certain a top 20 restaurants could be knocked up in an hour and most of us could name it off the top of our collective heads. The comments section will no doubt be as funny as ever. IfItsONtheNet
  • Score: 7

5:10pm Mon 19 May 14

Hmmmf says...

Craig Lyus wrote:
Just to answer some of the disparaging remarks, the article is prefixed THE LIST and is a regular part of our features output.

The keep it in the Features section and don't try to dress click-bait as News.
[quote][p][bold]Craig Lyus[/bold] wrote: Just to answer some of the disparaging remarks, the article is prefixed THE LIST and is a regular part of our features output. [/quote] The keep it in the Features section and don't try to dress click-bait as News. Hmmmf
  • Score: 2

5:17pm Mon 19 May 14

are u mad says...

clearly isn't correct as i know of one up for £575000 thats not in your list!!!
clearly isn't correct as i know of one up for £575000 thats not in your list!!! are u mad
  • Score: 0

5:31pm Mon 19 May 14

IfItsONtheNet says...

Since when is use of the word p o r n breaking site T&C`s???
Since when is use of the word p o r n breaking site T&C`s??? IfItsONtheNet
  • Score: 0

5:31pm Mon 19 May 14

Eastcott says...

That house in Wood Street has been on the market for over a year. As nice as it is, who wants to live on such a busy street for nightlife, and directly opposite the rowdy Baker St bar?? No one obviously. Hardly an exclusive property.
That house in Wood Street has been on the market for over a year. As nice as it is, who wants to live on such a busy street for nightlife, and directly opposite the rowdy Baker St bar?? No one obviously. Hardly an exclusive property. Eastcott
  • Score: 7

5:39pm Mon 19 May 14

Craig Lyus says...

Hmmmf wrote:
Craig Lyus wrote:
Just to answer some of the disparaging remarks, the article is prefixed THE LIST and is a regular part of our features output.

The keep it in the Features section and don't try to dress click-bait as News.
The most popular items from other sections are pulled across into the main feed, Hmmmf.
I don't really understand why a few of you get so irritated by these pieces, the headline tells you exactly what you're getting before you click it so it's not misleading, and it's a supplementary piece in addition to our regular news output, not instead of.
Any ideas for future lists gratefully received.
[quote][p][bold]Hmmmf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Craig Lyus[/bold] wrote: Just to answer some of the disparaging remarks, the article is prefixed THE LIST and is a regular part of our features output. [/quote] The keep it in the Features section and don't try to dress click-bait as News.[/p][/quote]The most popular items from other sections are pulled across into the main feed, Hmmmf. I don't really understand why a few of you get so irritated by these pieces, the headline tells you exactly what you're getting before you click it so it's not misleading, and it's a supplementary piece in addition to our regular news output, not instead of. Any ideas for future lists gratefully received. Craig Lyus
  • Score: 3

5:48pm Mon 19 May 14

ChannelX says...

These types of lists at least make a refreshing change from wading through the endless articles about convicted criminals being allowed to stroll free from court by our delightful local judiciary.
These types of lists at least make a refreshing change from wading through the endless articles about convicted criminals being allowed to stroll free from court by our delightful local judiciary. ChannelX
  • Score: 10

5:55pm Mon 19 May 14

IfItsONtheNet says...

ChannelX wrote:
These types of lists at least make a refreshing change from wading through the endless articles about convicted criminals being allowed to stroll free from court by our delightful local judiciary.
Completely agree these little stories are excellent sources of conversation and we all like to see how much houses near our / your own are worth.
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: These types of lists at least make a refreshing change from wading through the endless articles about convicted criminals being allowed to stroll free from court by our delightful local judiciary.[/p][/quote]Completely agree these little stories are excellent sources of conversation and we all like to see how much houses near our / your own are worth. IfItsONtheNet
  • Score: 7

6:41pm Mon 19 May 14

Craig-o says...

Craig Lyus wrote:
Just to answer some of the disparaging remarks, the article is prefixed THE LIST and is a regular part of our features output.
We're not trying to pass it off as news, it is merely a light item that some may wish to browse during their lunchbreak and it helps break up the heavier stories on the homepage, particularly on a crime-heavy day.
These lists are increasingly popular across news websites where there is no limit on pagination and 'the point' is purely to attract hits, which drives up our figures and improves the site's commercial viability. This is illustrated by the fact that the article is the third best read across all sections online today with several thousand views in the space of three hours. Ultimately we're a business reacting to our customers' reading habits.
And just to pre-warn you, we have a 'Swindon's top 20 restaurants' in the pipeline...
- Craig Lyus, digital editor
That told em
[quote][p][bold]Craig Lyus[/bold] wrote: Just to answer some of the disparaging remarks, the article is prefixed THE LIST and is a regular part of our features output. We're not trying to pass it off as news, it is merely a light item that some may wish to browse during their lunchbreak and it helps break up the heavier stories on the homepage, particularly on a crime-heavy day. These lists are increasingly popular across news websites where there is no limit on pagination and 'the point' is purely to attract hits, which drives up our figures and improves the site's commercial viability. This is illustrated by the fact that the article is the third best read across all sections online today with several thousand views in the space of three hours. Ultimately we're a business reacting to our customers' reading habits. And just to pre-warn you, we have a 'Swindon's top 20 restaurants' in the pipeline... - Craig Lyus, digital editor[/p][/quote]That told em Craig-o
  • Score: 3

8:59pm Mon 19 May 14

IfItsONtheNet says...

Hmmmf wrote:
Craig Lyus wrote:
Just to answer some of the disparaging remarks, the article is prefixed THE LIST and is a regular part of our features output.

The keep it in the Features section and don't try to dress click-bait as News.
The BBC site as well as many others uses the same style of format.
Not all news needs to be heavy.
[quote][p][bold]Hmmmf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Craig Lyus[/bold] wrote: Just to answer some of the disparaging remarks, the article is prefixed THE LIST and is a regular part of our features output. [/quote] The keep it in the Features section and don't try to dress click-bait as News.[/p][/quote]The BBC site as well as many others uses the same style of format. Not all news needs to be heavy. IfItsONtheNet
  • Score: 3

9:24pm Mon 19 May 14

Hmmmf says...

IfItsONtheNet wrote:
Hmmmf wrote:
Craig Lyus wrote:
Just to answer some of the disparaging remarks, the article is prefixed THE LIST and is a regular part of our features output.

The keep it in the Features section and don't try to dress click-bait as News.
The BBC site as well as many others uses the same style of format.
Not all news needs to be heavy.
True, but news does rather need to be news.

That's why there are sections for news, sport, business, lifestyle, opinion and so on. Someone clicking on News doesn't expect to find fluffy features in the news section, just as someone looking for a fluffy read doesn't expect to see the latest court roundup in the features section. The editor cocked up and put a feature in the news section. All he had to do was move it to its logical 'home' and no-one would've cared. Instead, he squirms.

Nice to know there actually *is* some kind of editor at the Adver now. Perhaps we'll seen an end to such laughable headlines as "Police Appeal Following Indecent Exposure."
[quote][p][bold]IfItsONtheNet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hmmmf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Craig Lyus[/bold] wrote: Just to answer some of the disparaging remarks, the article is prefixed THE LIST and is a regular part of our features output. [/quote] The keep it in the Features section and don't try to dress click-bait as News.[/p][/quote]The BBC site as well as many others uses the same style of format. Not all news needs to be heavy.[/p][/quote]True, but news does rather need to be news. That's why there are sections for news, sport, business, lifestyle, opinion and so on. Someone clicking on News doesn't expect to find fluffy features in the news section, just as someone looking for a fluffy read doesn't expect to see the latest court roundup in the features section. The editor cocked up and put a feature in the news section. All he had to do was move it to its logical 'home' and no-one would've cared. Instead, he squirms. Nice to know there actually *is* some kind of editor at the Adver now. Perhaps we'll seen an end to such laughable headlines as "Police Appeal Following Indecent Exposure." Hmmmf
  • Score: -1

10:04pm Mon 19 May 14

MrAngry says...

Craig Lyus wrote:
Just to answer some of the disparaging remarks, the article is prefixed THE LIST and is a regular part of our features output.
We're not trying to pass it off as news, it is merely a light item that some may wish to browse during their lunchbreak and it helps break up the heavier stories on the homepage, particularly on a crime-heavy day.
These lists are increasingly popular across news websites where there is no limit on pagination and 'the point' is purely to attract hits, which drives up our figures and improves the site's commercial viability. This is illustrated by the fact that the article is the third best read across all sections online today with several thousand views in the space of three hours. Ultimately we're a business reacting to our customers' reading habits.
And just to pre-warn you, we have a 'Swindon's top 20 restaurants' in the pipeline...
- Craig Lyus, digital editor
Here are six to get them started:-
1. McDonalds - Great Western Way
2. McDonalds - Greenbridge
3. McDonalds - Orbital centre
4. McDonalds - Wharf Green
5. McDonalds - West Swindon Centre
6. Burger King - Queens Drive
[quote][p][bold]Craig Lyus[/bold] wrote: Just to answer some of the disparaging remarks, the article is prefixed THE LIST and is a regular part of our features output. We're not trying to pass it off as news, it is merely a light item that some may wish to browse during their lunchbreak and it helps break up the heavier stories on the homepage, particularly on a crime-heavy day. These lists are increasingly popular across news websites where there is no limit on pagination and 'the point' is purely to attract hits, which drives up our figures and improves the site's commercial viability. This is illustrated by the fact that the article is the third best read across all sections online today with several thousand views in the space of three hours. Ultimately we're a business reacting to our customers' reading habits. And just to pre-warn you, we have a 'Swindon's top 20 restaurants' in the pipeline... - Craig Lyus, digital editor[/p][/quote]Here are six to get them started:- 1. McDonalds - Great Western Way 2. McDonalds - Greenbridge 3. McDonalds - Orbital centre 4. McDonalds - Wharf Green 5. McDonalds - West Swindon Centre 6. Burger King - Queens Drive MrAngry
  • Score: 13

11:47pm Mon 19 May 14

Craig Lyus says...

Hmmmf wrote:
IfItsONtheNet wrote:
Hmmmf wrote:
Craig Lyus wrote:
Just to answer some of the disparaging remarks, the article is prefixed THE LIST and is a regular part of our features output.

The keep it in the Features section and don't try to dress click-bait as News.
The BBC site as well as many others uses the same style of format.
Not all news needs to be heavy.
True, but news does rather need to be news.

That's why there are sections for news, sport, business, lifestyle, opinion and so on. Someone clicking on News doesn't expect to find fluffy features in the news section, just as someone looking for a fluffy read doesn't expect to see the latest court roundup in the features section. The editor cocked up and put a feature in the news section. All he had to do was move it to its logical 'home' and no-one would've cared. Instead, he squirms.

Nice to know there actually *is* some kind of editor at the Adver now. Perhaps we'll seen an end to such laughable headlines as "Police Appeal Following Indecent Exposure."
Hate to deflate your conspiracy theory, Hmmmf, but to reiterate this article was deliberately drafted across to the main feed as well as its original home in features (where the original copy remains). It's a standard measure to give a feature item more prominence on the homepage if we think will prove popular, as was the case here, and in last week's 'hottest weekend' if you want to check back.
Had this been a "c*ck up" as you suggest I could have easily moved the article and deleted all of your comments, so no squirming would have been necessary.
I'm hoping to take more time interacting with many of you, be it here or via email (see 'contact us'). If any of you have any constructive comments or criticisms I'm always happy to receive them and I'll answer as many of you as I can.
[quote][p][bold]Hmmmf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IfItsONtheNet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hmmmf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Craig Lyus[/bold] wrote: Just to answer some of the disparaging remarks, the article is prefixed THE LIST and is a regular part of our features output. [/quote] The keep it in the Features section and don't try to dress click-bait as News.[/p][/quote]The BBC site as well as many others uses the same style of format. Not all news needs to be heavy.[/p][/quote]True, but news does rather need to be news. That's why there are sections for news, sport, business, lifestyle, opinion and so on. Someone clicking on News doesn't expect to find fluffy features in the news section, just as someone looking for a fluffy read doesn't expect to see the latest court roundup in the features section. The editor cocked up and put a feature in the news section. All he had to do was move it to its logical 'home' and no-one would've cared. Instead, he squirms. Nice to know there actually *is* some kind of editor at the Adver now. Perhaps we'll seen an end to such laughable headlines as "Police Appeal Following Indecent Exposure."[/p][/quote]Hate to deflate your conspiracy theory, Hmmmf, but to reiterate this article was deliberately drafted across to the main feed as well as its original home in features (where the original copy remains). It's a standard measure to give a feature item more prominence on the homepage if we think will prove popular, as was the case here, and in last week's 'hottest weekend' if you want to check back. Had this been a "c*ck up" as you suggest I could have easily moved the article and deleted all of your comments, so no squirming would have been necessary. I'm hoping to take more time interacting with many of you, be it here or via email (see 'contact us'). If any of you have any constructive comments or criticisms I'm always happy to receive them and I'll answer as many of you as I can. Craig Lyus
  • Score: 8

11:57pm Mon 19 May 14

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

The article was listed in the news subsection and it is not news. Far too many non news article appear under the news section.

And since you asked for some more feedback, stop posting the exact same story multiple times. Sometimes they even appear next to each other in the news section.
The article was listed in the news subsection and it is not news. Far too many non news article appear under the news section. And since you asked for some more feedback, stop posting the exact same story multiple times. Sometimes they even appear next to each other in the news section. LordAshOfTheBrake
  • Score: 4

8:12am Tue 20 May 14

gambon says...

Craig Lyus wrote:
Just to answer some of the disparaging remarks, the article is prefixed THE LIST and is a regular part of our features output.
We're not trying to pass it off as news, it is merely a light item that some may wish to browse during their lunchbreak and it helps break up the heavier stories on the homepage, particularly on a crime-heavy day.
These lists are increasingly popular across news websites where there is no limit on pagination and 'the point' is purely to attract hits, which drives up our figures and improves the site's commercial viability. This is illustrated by the fact that the article is the third best read across all sections online today with several thousand views in the space of three hours. Ultimately we're a business reacting to our customers' reading habits.
And just to pre-warn you, we have a 'Swindon's top 20 restaurants' in the pipeline...
- Craig Lyus, digital editor
first time i have ever seen this so the adver is really pushing for groundbreaking news that would also be a first
[quote][p][bold]Craig Lyus[/bold] wrote: Just to answer some of the disparaging remarks, the article is prefixed THE LIST and is a regular part of our features output. We're not trying to pass it off as news, it is merely a light item that some may wish to browse during their lunchbreak and it helps break up the heavier stories on the homepage, particularly on a crime-heavy day. These lists are increasingly popular across news websites where there is no limit on pagination and 'the point' is purely to attract hits, which drives up our figures and improves the site's commercial viability. This is illustrated by the fact that the article is the third best read across all sections online today with several thousand views in the space of three hours. Ultimately we're a business reacting to our customers' reading habits. And just to pre-warn you, we have a 'Swindon's top 20 restaurants' in the pipeline... - Craig Lyus, digital editor[/p][/quote]first time i have ever seen this so the adver is really pushing for groundbreaking news that would also be a first gambon
  • Score: 1

9:08am Tue 20 May 14

Craig Lyus says...

Morning Lord. The news feed and the main feed are essentially the same thing, so we have to take a little artistic licence when copying it across, but try to counter that my making it obvious what the article represents in the headline. If this irks some of you I'll investigate ways of giving these lists front page presence without disrupting impinging on hard news flow. This isn't as easy as it sounds because all Newsquest sites are coded and designed at a central office but I'll see what I can do.
Re article duplication, the only instances I can think of are when you get a live breaking story followed by a tweaked or extended version the following morning. In cases where you've seen duplicates next to each other have they been word-for-word copies with the same headline/pic? If so it may be a system quirk and I'll look into it.
Morning Lord. The news feed and the main feed are essentially the same thing, so we have to take a little artistic licence when copying it across, but try to counter that my making it obvious what the article represents in the headline. If this irks some of you I'll investigate ways of giving these lists front page presence without disrupting impinging on hard news flow. This isn't as easy as it sounds because all Newsquest sites are coded and designed at a central office but I'll see what I can do. Re article duplication, the only instances I can think of are when you get a live breaking story followed by a tweaked or extended version the following morning. In cases where you've seen duplicates next to each other have they been word-for-word copies with the same headline/pic? If so it may be a system quirk and I'll look into it. Craig Lyus
  • Score: 1

9:46am Tue 20 May 14

Hmmmf says...

Craig Lyus wrote:
Re article duplication, the only instances I can think of are when you get a live breaking story followed by a tweaked or extended version the following morning. In cases where you've seen duplicates next to each other have they been word-for-word copies with the same headline/pic? If so it may be a system quirk and I'll look into it.

No he means duplicated articles, word for word, but sometimes the editor cunningly changes the headline to make them look different, and sometimes the second article has a comments section where the first didn't. Here are two examples:

http://goo.gl/y8S7xu

Friday 16th May
http://goo.gl/gSK2E5

Tuesday 20th May

Same story. Word for word. Different headline.
[quote][p][bold]Craig Lyus[/bold] wrote: Re article duplication, the only instances I can think of are when you get a live breaking story followed by a tweaked or extended version the following morning. In cases where you've seen duplicates next to each other have they been word-for-word copies with the same headline/pic? If so it may be a system quirk and I'll look into it.[/quote] No he means duplicated articles, word for word, but sometimes the editor cunningly changes the headline to make them look different, and sometimes the second article has a comments section where the first didn't. Here are two examples: http://goo.gl/y8S7xu Friday 16th May http://goo.gl/gSK2E5 Tuesday 20th May Same story. Word for word. Different headline. Hmmmf
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9:58am Tue 20 May 14

Morsey says...

At least The Adver does cater for the area of Swindon, not like BBC Radio WILTSHIRE, which shies away from reporting any news about the biggest town in the county they are supposed to represent! Take out STFC, in season, and their coverage is non-existent.

Good to see 'official' response against the usual clap-trappers in 'Comments'!
At least The Adver does cater for the area of Swindon, not like BBC Radio WILTSHIRE, which shies away from reporting any news about the biggest town in the county they are supposed to represent! Take out STFC, in season, and their coverage is non-existent. Good to see 'official' response against the usual clap-trappers in 'Comments'! Morsey
  • Score: 2

9:59am Tue 20 May 14

Davey Gravey says...

@Craig lyus. As you read the comments how about addressing the site abuse on here? This includes the thumb voting manipulation, lies about other contributers and single individuals using multiple log ins ?
@Craig lyus. As you read the comments how about addressing the site abuse on here? This includes the thumb voting manipulation, lies about other contributers and single individuals using multiple log ins ? Davey Gravey
  • Score: -3

10:08am Tue 20 May 14

Craig Lyus says...

Hmmmf wrote:
Craig Lyus wrote:
Re article duplication, the only instances I can think of are when you get a live breaking story followed by a tweaked or extended version the following morning. In cases where you've seen duplicates next to each other have they been word-for-word copies with the same headline/pic? If so it may be a system quirk and I'll look into it.

No he means duplicated articles, word for word, but sometimes the editor cunningly changes the headline to make them look different, and sometimes the second article has a comments section where the first didn't. Here are two examples:

http://goo.gl/y8S7xu


Friday 16th May
http://goo.gl/gSK2E5


Tuesday 20th May

Same story. Word for word. Different headline.
Hi Hmmmf. Looking at the publication dates this was an instance where a live article has gone up on the Friday afternoon and the newspaper version has then been uploaded the morning it appears in print. Usually the second version would have been extended or tweaked in some way. In cases where they haven't they shouldn't be appearing, but some occasionally slip through the net as multiple individuals are responsible for uploads. I'll keep an eye on it though. They certainly shouldn't be appearing next to each other on the list though and I'd be interested to see any examples of this so I can investigate further.
[quote][p][bold]Hmmmf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Craig Lyus[/bold] wrote: Re article duplication, the only instances I can think of are when you get a live breaking story followed by a tweaked or extended version the following morning. In cases where you've seen duplicates next to each other have they been word-for-word copies with the same headline/pic? If so it may be a system quirk and I'll look into it.[/quote] No he means duplicated articles, word for word, but sometimes the editor cunningly changes the headline to make them look different, and sometimes the second article has a comments section where the first didn't. Here are two examples: http://goo.gl/y8S7xu Friday 16th May http://goo.gl/gSK2E5 Tuesday 20th May Same story. Word for word. Different headline.[/p][/quote]Hi Hmmmf. Looking at the publication dates this was an instance where a live article has gone up on the Friday afternoon and the newspaper version has then been uploaded the morning it appears in print. Usually the second version would have been extended or tweaked in some way. In cases where they haven't they shouldn't be appearing, but some occasionally slip through the net as multiple individuals are responsible for uploads. I'll keep an eye on it though. They certainly shouldn't be appearing next to each other on the list though and I'd be interested to see any examples of this so I can investigate further. Craig Lyus
  • Score: 0

10:16am Tue 20 May 14

ChannelX says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
@Craig lyus. As you read the comments how about addressing the site abuse on here? This includes the thumb voting manipulation, lies about other contributers and single individuals using multiple log ins ?
Yes, you should be stopped from lying about me being a councillor. Let's hope they put an end to your lies as soon as possible.

And if they apply their own website rules, you'll also be banned for your near constant insulting of other contributors.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: @Craig lyus. As you read the comments how about addressing the site abuse on here? This includes the thumb voting manipulation, lies about other contributers and single individuals using multiple log ins ?[/p][/quote]Yes, you should be stopped from lying about me being a councillor. Let's hope they put an end to your lies as soon as possible. And if they apply their own website rules, you'll also be banned for your near constant insulting of other contributors. ChannelX
  • Score: -3

10:29am Tue 20 May 14

Craig Lyus says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
@Craig lyus. As you read the comments how about addressing the site abuse on here? This includes the thumb voting manipulation, lies about other contributers and single individuals using multiple log ins ?
Hello Davey. Tightening up the comments section is something I'm looking into at the moment. I had a meeting with some contributors on that very subject last week so hopefully you'll see some improvements in the coming weeks (or months).
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: @Craig lyus. As you read the comments how about addressing the site abuse on here? This includes the thumb voting manipulation, lies about other contributers and single individuals using multiple log ins ?[/p][/quote]Hello Davey. Tightening up the comments section is something I'm looking into at the moment. I had a meeting with some contributors on that very subject last week so hopefully you'll see some improvements in the coming weeks (or months). Craig Lyus
  • Score: 5

11:00am Tue 20 May 14

IfItsONtheNet says...

Hmmmf wrote:
IfItsONtheNet wrote:
Hmmmf wrote:
Craig Lyus wrote:
Just to answer some of the disparaging remarks, the article is prefixed THE LIST and is a regular part of our features output.

The keep it in the Features section and don't try to dress click-bait as News.
The BBC site as well as many others uses the same style of format.
Not all news needs to be heavy.
True, but news does rather need to be news.

That's why there are sections for news, sport, business, lifestyle, opinion and so on. Someone clicking on News doesn't expect to find fluffy features in the news section, just as someone looking for a fluffy read doesn't expect to see the latest court roundup in the features section. The editor cocked up and put a feature in the news section. All he had to do was move it to its logical 'home' and no-one would've cared. Instead, he squirms.

Nice to know there actually *is* some kind of editor at the Adver now. Perhaps we'll seen an end to such laughable headlines as "Police Appeal Following Indecent Exposure."
Probably fair enough to call it local interest story though??
If its national and world news you are after maybe a local paper news source isnt the place to look.
I think the local interest stories are the reason I read the Adver there are a multitude of world news sources to choose from but not so many for Swindon news.
Not sure if it was a **** up as you put it and even if it was I dont understand why its a problem.

The phrase what are you really angry about comes to mind.
[quote][p][bold]Hmmmf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IfItsONtheNet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hmmmf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Craig Lyus[/bold] wrote: Just to answer some of the disparaging remarks, the article is prefixed THE LIST and is a regular part of our features output. [/quote] The keep it in the Features section and don't try to dress click-bait as News.[/p][/quote]The BBC site as well as many others uses the same style of format. Not all news needs to be heavy.[/p][/quote]True, but news does rather need to be news. That's why there are sections for news, sport, business, lifestyle, opinion and so on. Someone clicking on News doesn't expect to find fluffy features in the news section, just as someone looking for a fluffy read doesn't expect to see the latest court roundup in the features section. The editor cocked up and put a feature in the news section. All he had to do was move it to its logical 'home' and no-one would've cared. Instead, he squirms. Nice to know there actually *is* some kind of editor at the Adver now. Perhaps we'll seen an end to such laughable headlines as "Police Appeal Following Indecent Exposure."[/p][/quote]Probably fair enough to call it local interest story though?? If its national and world news you are after maybe a local paper news source isnt the place to look. I think the local interest stories are the reason I read the Adver there are a multitude of world news sources to choose from but not so many for Swindon news. Not sure if it was a **** up as you put it and even if it was I dont understand why its a problem. The phrase what are you really angry about comes to mind. IfItsONtheNet
  • Score: 1

11:05am Tue 20 May 14

DANLOTHEESTATEAGENT says...

That house on Bath Road simply won't sell, it's been on with another estate agent for ages already - a house is only worth as much as peope will pay for it - I wonder why it's not selling? Overpriced? The third house also seems overpriced....
That house on Bath Road simply won't sell, it's been on with another estate agent for ages already - a house is only worth as much as peope will pay for it - I wonder why it's not selling? Overpriced? The third house also seems overpriced.... DANLOTHEESTATEAGENT
  • Score: 2

12:31pm Tue 20 May 14

Davey Gravey says...

Craig Lyus wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
@Craig lyus. As you read the comments how about addressing the site abuse on here? This includes the thumb voting manipulation, lies about other contributers and single individuals using multiple log ins ?
Hello Davey. Tightening up the comments section is something I'm looking into at the moment. I had a meeting with some contributors on that very subject last week so hopefully you'll see some improvements in the coming weeks (or months).
Thanks for the reply. Glad to hear things will improve.
[quote][p][bold]Craig Lyus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: @Craig lyus. As you read the comments how about addressing the site abuse on here? This includes the thumb voting manipulation, lies about other contributers and single individuals using multiple log ins ?[/p][/quote]Hello Davey. Tightening up the comments section is something I'm looking into at the moment. I had a meeting with some contributors on that very subject last week so hopefully you'll see some improvements in the coming weeks (or months).[/p][/quote]Thanks for the reply. Glad to hear things will improve. Davey Gravey
  • Score: 1

12:50pm Tue 20 May 14

Still About says...

Craig Lyus wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
@Craig lyus. As you read the comments how about addressing the site abuse on here? This includes the thumb voting manipulation, lies about other contributers and single individuals using multiple log ins ?
Hello Davey. Tightening up the comments section is something I'm looking into at the moment. I had a meeting with some contributors on that very subject last week so hopefully you'll see some improvements in the coming weeks (or months).
That is good news.
A quick scan of the topic on Talk Swindon entitled
"Adver Comments, Who Is Bobby Wright " will demonstrate clearly the main offender.
[quote][p][bold]Craig Lyus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: @Craig lyus. As you read the comments how about addressing the site abuse on here? This includes the thumb voting manipulation, lies about other contributers and single individuals using multiple log ins ?[/p][/quote]Hello Davey. Tightening up the comments section is something I'm looking into at the moment. I had a meeting with some contributors on that very subject last week so hopefully you'll see some improvements in the coming weeks (or months).[/p][/quote]That is good news. A quick scan of the topic on Talk Swindon entitled "Adver Comments, Who Is Bobby Wright " will demonstrate clearly the main offender. Still About
  • Score: -1

12:57pm Tue 20 May 14

house on the hill says...

BCDR99 wrote:
Hearditallbefore wrote:
And the point is?
You could write that comment on about 95% of what is on this site to be fair.
Or any site come to that!
[quote][p][bold]BCDR99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hearditallbefore[/bold] wrote: And the point is?[/p][/quote]You could write that comment on about 95% of what is on this site to be fair.[/p][/quote]Or any site come to that! house on the hill
  • Score: 1

1:01pm Tue 20 May 14

Davey Gravey says...

ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
@Craig lyus. As you read the comments how about addressing the site abuse on here? This includes the thumb voting manipulation, lies about other contributers and single individuals using multiple log ins ?
Yes, you should be stopped from lying about me being a councillor. Let's hope they put an end to your lies as soon as possible.

And if they apply their own website rules, you'll also be banned for your near constant insulting of other contributors.
Your behaviour has been noted by many. I'm glad they are now cleaning the site up. Nothing more to say.
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: @Craig lyus. As you read the comments how about addressing the site abuse on here? This includes the thumb voting manipulation, lies about other contributers and single individuals using multiple log ins ?[/p][/quote]Yes, you should be stopped from lying about me being a councillor. Let's hope they put an end to your lies as soon as possible. And if they apply their own website rules, you'll also be banned for your near constant insulting of other contributors.[/p][/quote]Your behaviour has been noted by many. I'm glad they are now cleaning the site up. Nothing more to say. Davey Gravey
  • Score: 1

1:07pm Tue 20 May 14

house on the hill says...

IfItsONtheNet wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
These types of lists at least make a refreshing change from wading through the endless articles about convicted criminals being allowed to stroll free from court by our delightful local judiciary.
Completely agree these little stories are excellent sources of conversation and we all like to see how much houses near our / your own are worth.
Seriously? I dont give a t0ss how much peoples houses are worth or even my own. the only time that is important is if you are thinking of moving. So what's next the top 20 most valuable cars in Swindon? Never understood society's obsession with what other people have got and how much things are worth, I think it just makes people less satisfied with their own lives always wanting more all the time or just makes them jealous! Too busy living my own life to obsess about anyone else's.
[quote][p][bold]IfItsONtheNet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: These types of lists at least make a refreshing change from wading through the endless articles about convicted criminals being allowed to stroll free from court by our delightful local judiciary.[/p][/quote]Completely agree these little stories are excellent sources of conversation and we all like to see how much houses near our / your own are worth.[/p][/quote]Seriously? I dont give a t0ss how much peoples houses are worth or even my own. the only time that is important is if you are thinking of moving. So what's next the top 20 most valuable cars in Swindon? Never understood society's obsession with what other people have got and how much things are worth, I think it just makes people less satisfied with their own lives always wanting more all the time or just makes them jealous! Too busy living my own life to obsess about anyone else's. house on the hill
  • Score: -3

1:12pm Tue 20 May 14

back_to_reality says...

"I don't really understand why a few of you get so irritated by these pieces".

I think its just a spill-over of the irritation with the general poor quality of the news section; badly written, poorly researched, embarrassingly biased, duplicated dross, etc. If you sharpened up on quality generally then I'm sure readers would be more tolerant of fluff like this.
"I don't really understand why a few of you get so irritated by these pieces". I think its just a spill-over of the irritation with the general poor quality of the news section; badly written, poorly researched, embarrassingly biased, duplicated dross, etc. If you sharpened up on quality generally then I'm sure readers would be more tolerant of fluff like this. back_to_reality
  • Score: 0

1:12pm Tue 20 May 14

Captain T says...

Craig

This feature aside, I think the problem some of us have with the Adver is that from time to time there are a number of non-stories. For example the mother who complained about a fish bone being found in a box of fish. That isn't news and shouldn't feature. News about the town centre regeneration on the other hand, I feel is news worthy and provided it isn't rehashed, I enjoy reading about it.

With regard to asking people for ideas on lists to compile, maybe consider looking at what Swindon has to offer? I am sure there are many people new to Swindon - I've moved here fairly recently myself. What would be nice would to do the sort of thing you did this weekend, 15 things to do on a hot day, list some of the local attractions people might not be aware of, Coate, Moulden Hill, the cycle network etc.

What would also be nice I feel, would to perhaps have a sort of shout out for some of the local shops in town. A lot of people go into town for the main high street retailers yet in places like Old Town and even the town centre itself, there are many independent retailers yet we seldom hear about them.

My final thing and maybe not everyone agrees with this, would perhaps be a page highlighting all the good work which goes on in Swindon. For example, news is so often filled with negative stories about the NHS or schools or the police. How about highlighting some of the wonderful stories from within places such as the GWH, success stories from the schools, local charities such as Prospect? There must be so much good that goes on in the town but journalists more often than not like to focus on the negative. News doesn't always have to be bad.
Craig This feature aside, I think the problem some of us have with the Adver is that from time to time there are a number of non-stories. For example the mother who complained about a fish bone being found in a box of fish. That isn't news and shouldn't feature. News about the town centre regeneration on the other hand, I feel is news worthy and provided it isn't rehashed, I enjoy reading about it. With regard to asking people for ideas on lists to compile, maybe consider looking at what Swindon has to offer? I am sure there are many people new to Swindon - I've moved here fairly recently myself. What would be nice would to do the sort of thing you did this weekend, 15 things to do on a hot day, list some of the local attractions people might not be aware of, Coate, Moulden Hill, the cycle network etc. What would also be nice I feel, would to perhaps have a sort of shout out for some of the local shops in town. A lot of people go into town for the main high street retailers yet in places like Old Town and even the town centre itself, there are many independent retailers yet we seldom hear about them. My final thing and maybe not everyone agrees with this, would perhaps be a page highlighting all the good work which goes on in Swindon. For example, news is so often filled with negative stories about the NHS or schools or the police. How about highlighting some of the wonderful stories from within places such as the GWH, success stories from the schools, local charities such as Prospect? There must be so much good that goes on in the town but journalists more often than not like to focus on the negative. News doesn't always have to be bad. Captain T
  • Score: 5

1:52pm Tue 20 May 14

Craig Lyus says...

back_to_reality wrote:
"I don't really understand why a few of you get so irritated by these pieces".

I think its just a spill-over of the irritation with the general poor quality of the news section; badly written, poorly researched, embarrassingly biased, duplicated dross, etc. If you sharpened up on quality generally then I'm sure readers would be more tolerant of fluff like this.
Possibly slightly harsh but I understand your point. We do the best job we can within the constraints of the current climate in which local newspapers are having to operate. I'll do what I can my end to keep the site as sharp as possible.
[quote][p][bold]back_to_reality[/bold] wrote: "I don't really understand why a few of you get so irritated by these pieces". I think its just a spill-over of the irritation with the general poor quality of the news section; badly written, poorly researched, embarrassingly biased, duplicated dross, etc. If you sharpened up on quality generally then I'm sure readers would be more tolerant of fluff like this.[/p][/quote]Possibly slightly harsh but I understand your point. We do the best job we can within the constraints of the current climate in which local newspapers are having to operate. I'll do what I can my end to keep the site as sharp as possible. Craig Lyus
  • Score: 2

1:59pm Tue 20 May 14

Craig Lyus says...

Captain T wrote:
Craig

This feature aside, I think the problem some of us have with the Adver is that from time to time there are a number of non-stories. For example the mother who complained about a fish bone being found in a box of fish. That isn't news and shouldn't feature. News about the town centre regeneration on the other hand, I feel is news worthy and provided it isn't rehashed, I enjoy reading about it.

With regard to asking people for ideas on lists to compile, maybe consider looking at what Swindon has to offer? I am sure there are many people new to Swindon - I've moved here fairly recently myself. What would be nice would to do the sort of thing you did this weekend, 15 things to do on a hot day, list some of the local attractions people might not be aware of, Coate, Moulden Hill, the cycle network etc.

What would also be nice I feel, would to perhaps have a sort of shout out for some of the local shops in town. A lot of people go into town for the main high street retailers yet in places like Old Town and even the town centre itself, there are many independent retailers yet we seldom hear about them.

My final thing and maybe not everyone agrees with this, would perhaps be a page highlighting all the good work which goes on in Swindon. For example, news is so often filled with negative stories about the NHS or schools or the police. How about highlighting some of the wonderful stories from within places such as the GWH, success stories from the schools, local charities such as Prospect? There must be so much good that goes on in the town but journalists more often than not like to focus on the negative. News doesn't always have to be bad.
Thanks for your thoughtful response Captain T. The problem is quite often 'non-stories' like the one you mentioned prove to be the most popular and best read which leaves us facing the balancing act of (often less popular) hard news against less serious, quirky pieces. The answer may be to create further sections to separate the two. It's something to think about. As is a 'good news' section to which you allude.
Our future lists will also have a local focus and be used as a vehicle to flag up local business and attractions and provoke debate. Thanks again.
[quote][p][bold]Captain T[/bold] wrote: Craig This feature aside, I think the problem some of us have with the Adver is that from time to time there are a number of non-stories. For example the mother who complained about a fish bone being found in a box of fish. That isn't news and shouldn't feature. News about the town centre regeneration on the other hand, I feel is news worthy and provided it isn't rehashed, I enjoy reading about it. With regard to asking people for ideas on lists to compile, maybe consider looking at what Swindon has to offer? I am sure there are many people new to Swindon - I've moved here fairly recently myself. What would be nice would to do the sort of thing you did this weekend, 15 things to do on a hot day, list some of the local attractions people might not be aware of, Coate, Moulden Hill, the cycle network etc. What would also be nice I feel, would to perhaps have a sort of shout out for some of the local shops in town. A lot of people go into town for the main high street retailers yet in places like Old Town and even the town centre itself, there are many independent retailers yet we seldom hear about them. My final thing and maybe not everyone agrees with this, would perhaps be a page highlighting all the good work which goes on in Swindon. For example, news is so often filled with negative stories about the NHS or schools or the police. How about highlighting some of the wonderful stories from within places such as the GWH, success stories from the schools, local charities such as Prospect? There must be so much good that goes on in the town but journalists more often than not like to focus on the negative. News doesn't always have to be bad.[/p][/quote]Thanks for your thoughtful response Captain T. The problem is quite often 'non-stories' like the one you mentioned prove to be the most popular and best read which leaves us facing the balancing act of (often less popular) hard news against less serious, quirky pieces. The answer may be to create further sections to separate the two. It's something to think about. As is a 'good news' section to which you allude. Our future lists will also have a local focus and be used as a vehicle to flag up local business and attractions and provoke debate. Thanks again. Craig Lyus
  • Score: 0

2:05pm Tue 20 May 14

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

Craig Lyus wrote:
Morning Lord. The news feed and the main feed are essentially the same thing, so we have to take a little artistic licence when copying it across, but try to counter that my making it obvious what the article represents in the headline. If this irks some of you I'll investigate ways of giving these lists front page presence without disrupting impinging on hard news flow. This isn't as easy as it sounds because all Newsquest sites are coded and designed at a central office but I'll see what I can do.
Re article duplication, the only instances I can think of are when you get a live breaking story followed by a tweaked or extended version the following morning. In cases where you've seen duplicates next to each other have they been word-for-word copies with the same headline/pic? If so it may be a system quirk and I'll look into it.
Sorry but story duplication happens a lot, and they are pretty much word for word copies. If an article needs minor corrections or a headline change, change the one copy not create a duplicate.
[quote][p][bold]Craig Lyus[/bold] wrote: Morning Lord. The news feed and the main feed are essentially the same thing, so we have to take a little artistic licence when copying it across, but try to counter that my making it obvious what the article represents in the headline. If this irks some of you I'll investigate ways of giving these lists front page presence without disrupting impinging on hard news flow. This isn't as easy as it sounds because all Newsquest sites are coded and designed at a central office but I'll see what I can do. Re article duplication, the only instances I can think of are when you get a live breaking story followed by a tweaked or extended version the following morning. In cases where you've seen duplicates next to each other have they been word-for-word copies with the same headline/pic? If so it may be a system quirk and I'll look into it.[/p][/quote]Sorry but story duplication happens a lot, and they are pretty much word for word copies. If an article needs minor corrections or a headline change, change the one copy not create a duplicate. LordAshOfTheBrake
  • Score: 2

2:31pm Tue 20 May 14

Craig Lyus says...

LordAshOfTheBrake wrote:
Craig Lyus wrote:
Morning Lord. The news feed and the main feed are essentially the same thing, so we have to take a little artistic licence when copying it across, but try to counter that my making it obvious what the article represents in the headline. If this irks some of you I'll investigate ways of giving these lists front page presence without disrupting impinging on hard news flow. This isn't as easy as it sounds because all Newsquest sites are coded and designed at a central office but I'll see what I can do.
Re article duplication, the only instances I can think of are when you get a live breaking story followed by a tweaked or extended version the following morning. In cases where you've seen duplicates next to each other have they been word-for-word copies with the same headline/pic? If so it may be a system quirk and I'll look into it.
Sorry but story duplication happens a lot, and they are pretty much word for word copies. If an article needs minor corrections or a headline change, change the one copy not create a duplicate.
This issue arises as a result of the web team uploading the breaking story and then the old fashioned print mob reverse publishing it back onto the web the day it appears in the paper, without checking if it's already on there.
I'm willing to let it slide if there are reasonable additions to the story rather than amend the original copy which by that point would be buried way down in the previous day's output. But word-for-word duplication should not occur, as you say.
Stories are uploaded from multiple locations so the channels of communication can suffer as a result and this is something I'll address. It's an issue I'll keep a close eye on for the next week or two to try and eliminate any unnecessary copies. Thanks for flagging it up.
[quote][p][bold]LordAshOfTheBrake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Craig Lyus[/bold] wrote: Morning Lord. The news feed and the main feed are essentially the same thing, so we have to take a little artistic licence when copying it across, but try to counter that my making it obvious what the article represents in the headline. If this irks some of you I'll investigate ways of giving these lists front page presence without disrupting impinging on hard news flow. This isn't as easy as it sounds because all Newsquest sites are coded and designed at a central office but I'll see what I can do. Re article duplication, the only instances I can think of are when you get a live breaking story followed by a tweaked or extended version the following morning. In cases where you've seen duplicates next to each other have they been word-for-word copies with the same headline/pic? If so it may be a system quirk and I'll look into it.[/p][/quote]Sorry but story duplication happens a lot, and they are pretty much word for word copies. If an article needs minor corrections or a headline change, change the one copy not create a duplicate.[/p][/quote]This issue arises as a result of the web team uploading the breaking story and then the old fashioned print mob reverse publishing it back onto the web the day it appears in the paper, without checking if it's already on there. I'm willing to let it slide if there are reasonable additions to the story rather than amend the original copy which by that point would be buried way down in the previous day's output. But word-for-word duplication should not occur, as you say. Stories are uploaded from multiple locations so the channels of communication can suffer as a result and this is something I'll address. It's an issue I'll keep a close eye on for the next week or two to try and eliminate any unnecessary copies. Thanks for flagging it up. Craig Lyus
  • Score: -1

2:50pm Tue 20 May 14

Craig Lyus says...

Eastcott - while many of your points were entirely valid, I had to suspend your comment due to you naming (*coughing) names. Jibes of a personal nature are an area I'll be clamping down on in the comments section.
Eastcott - while many of your points were entirely valid, I had to suspend your comment due to you naming (*coughing) names. Jibes of a personal nature are an area I'll be clamping down on in the comments section. Craig Lyus
  • Score: 2

5:37pm Tue 20 May 14

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

Craig Lyus wrote:
LordAshOfTheBrake wrote:
Craig Lyus wrote:
Morning Lord. The news feed and the main feed are essentially the same thing, so we have to take a little artistic licence when copying it across, but try to counter that my making it obvious what the article represents in the headline. If this irks some of you I'll investigate ways of giving these lists front page presence without disrupting impinging on hard news flow. This isn't as easy as it sounds because all Newsquest sites are coded and designed at a central office but I'll see what I can do.
Re article duplication, the only instances I can think of are when you get a live breaking story followed by a tweaked or extended version the following morning. In cases where you've seen duplicates next to each other have they been word-for-word copies with the same headline/pic? If so it may be a system quirk and I'll look into it.
Sorry but story duplication happens a lot, and they are pretty much word for word copies. If an article needs minor corrections or a headline change, change the one copy not create a duplicate.
This issue arises as a result of the web team uploading the breaking story and then the old fashioned print mob reverse publishing it back onto the web the day it appears in the paper, without checking if it's already on there.
I'm willing to let it slide if there are reasonable additions to the story rather than amend the original copy which by that point would be buried way down in the previous day's output. But word-for-word duplication should not occur, as you say.
Stories are uploaded from multiple locations so the channels of communication can suffer as a result and this is something I'll address. It's an issue I'll keep a close eye on for the next week or two to try and eliminate any unnecessary copies. Thanks for flagging it up.
Thanks.
[quote][p][bold]Craig Lyus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LordAshOfTheBrake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Craig Lyus[/bold] wrote: Morning Lord. The news feed and the main feed are essentially the same thing, so we have to take a little artistic licence when copying it across, but try to counter that my making it obvious what the article represents in the headline. If this irks some of you I'll investigate ways of giving these lists front page presence without disrupting impinging on hard news flow. This isn't as easy as it sounds because all Newsquest sites are coded and designed at a central office but I'll see what I can do. Re article duplication, the only instances I can think of are when you get a live breaking story followed by a tweaked or extended version the following morning. In cases where you've seen duplicates next to each other have they been word-for-word copies with the same headline/pic? If so it may be a system quirk and I'll look into it.[/p][/quote]Sorry but story duplication happens a lot, and they are pretty much word for word copies. If an article needs minor corrections or a headline change, change the one copy not create a duplicate.[/p][/quote]This issue arises as a result of the web team uploading the breaking story and then the old fashioned print mob reverse publishing it back onto the web the day it appears in the paper, without checking if it's already on there. I'm willing to let it slide if there are reasonable additions to the story rather than amend the original copy which by that point would be buried way down in the previous day's output. But word-for-word duplication should not occur, as you say. Stories are uploaded from multiple locations so the channels of communication can suffer as a result and this is something I'll address. It's an issue I'll keep a close eye on for the next week or two to try and eliminate any unnecessary copies. Thanks for flagging it up.[/p][/quote]Thanks. LordAshOfTheBrake
  • Score: 0

5:48pm Tue 20 May 14

Still About says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Craig Lyus wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
@Craig lyus. As you read the comments how about addressing the site abuse on here? This includes the thumb voting manipulation, lies about other contributers and single individuals using multiple log ins ?
Hello Davey. Tightening up the comments section is something I'm looking into at the moment. I had a meeting with some contributors on that very subject last week so hopefully you'll see some improvements in the coming weeks (or months).
Thanks for the reply. Glad to hear things will improve.
This is good news indeed.
Many people have given up commenting on these sections due to one person in particular.

A very quick browse on Talk Swindon, on the thread entitled "Adver Comments - Who Is Bobby Wright" will point you in the right direction of the main offender
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Craig Lyus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: @Craig lyus. As you read the comments how about addressing the site abuse on here? This includes the thumb voting manipulation, lies about other contributers and single individuals using multiple log ins ?[/p][/quote]Hello Davey. Tightening up the comments section is something I'm looking into at the moment. I had a meeting with some contributors on that very subject last week so hopefully you'll see some improvements in the coming weeks (or months).[/p][/quote]Thanks for the reply. Glad to hear things will improve.[/p][/quote]This is good news indeed. Many people have given up commenting on these sections due to one person in particular. A very quick browse on Talk Swindon, on the thread entitled "Adver Comments - Who Is Bobby Wright" will point you in the right direction of the main offender Still About
  • Score: -1

6:09pm Tue 20 May 14

IfItsONtheNet says...

Fair play Craig, answered peoples comments in a very professional way. Must admit when I first saw your details come up I thought oh no....

Side note;
I think the lists will be very popular buzzfeed use them allot and they are some of the most popular pieces.

I am sure pubs and take a ways are on the to be done list but maybe gyms, health centers, view points, play parks, historical sites.
Good luck with the new ideas.
Fair play Craig, answered peoples comments in a very professional way. Must admit when I first saw your details come up I thought oh no.... Side note; I think the lists will be very popular buzzfeed use them allot and they are some of the most popular pieces. I am sure pubs and take a ways are on the to be done list but maybe gyms, health centers, view points, play parks, historical sites. Good luck with the new ideas. IfItsONtheNet
  • Score: 2

6:25pm Tue 20 May 14

IfItsONtheNet says...

DANLOTHEESTATEAGENT wrote:
That house on Bath Road simply won't sell, it's been on with another estate agent for ages already - a house is only worth as much as peope will pay for it - I wonder why it's not selling? Overpriced? The third house also seems overpriced....
Do you know of a similar property at a lower cost?
[quote][p][bold]DANLOTHEESTATEAGENT[/bold] wrote: That house on Bath Road simply won't sell, it's been on with another estate agent for ages already - a house is only worth as much as peope will pay for it - I wonder why it's not selling? Overpriced? The third house also seems overpriced....[/p][/quote]Do you know of a similar property at a lower cost? IfItsONtheNet
  • Score: 0

8:05pm Tue 20 May 14

Craig Lyus says...

IfItsONtheNet wrote:
Fair play Craig, answered peoples comments in a very professional way. Must admit when I first saw your details come up I thought oh no....

Side note;
I think the lists will be very popular buzzfeed use them allot and they are some of the most popular pieces.

I am sure pubs and take a ways are on the to be done list but maybe gyms, health centers, view points, play parks, historical sites.
Good luck with the new ideas.
Thank you for the comments and ideas. Buzzfeed have led the way with these lists really, and due to their success most outlets are jumping on the bandwagon - although I realise they're not to everyone's taste. The important thing is to keep the content local and hopefully be informative along the way.
[quote][p][bold]IfItsONtheNet[/bold] wrote: Fair play Craig, answered peoples comments in a very professional way. Must admit when I first saw your details come up I thought oh no.... Side note; I think the lists will be very popular buzzfeed use them allot and they are some of the most popular pieces. I am sure pubs and take a ways are on the to be done list but maybe gyms, health centers, view points, play parks, historical sites. Good luck with the new ideas.[/p][/quote]Thank you for the comments and ideas. Buzzfeed have led the way with these lists really, and due to their success most outlets are jumping on the bandwagon - although I realise they're not to everyone's taste. The important thing is to keep the content local and hopefully be informative along the way. Craig Lyus
  • Score: 0

10:21am Wed 21 May 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
@Craig lyus. As you read the comments how about addressing the site abuse on here? This includes the thumb voting manipulation, lies about other contributers and single individuals using multiple log ins ?
Yes, you should be stopped from lying about me being a councillor. Let's hope they put an end to your lies as soon as possible.

And if they apply their own website rules, you'll also be banned for your near constant insulting of other contributors.
Your behaviour has been noted by many. I'm glad they are now cleaning the site up. Nothing more to say.
Wouldnt that be wonderful anything that cuts down on the hate speeches and increases on topic debate has got to be a good thing.
As far as the thumbs go I dont know who cares its the same people that "thumb fiddle" and its not as if they get anything for it.

Cleaning up the comments will last as long as it takes for the same people to either set up multiple accounts,,,,,again or thumb fiddle in another way.
After recent complaints from a poster that I was picking on them I offered the solution lets only comment on topics and avoid personal attacks...this lasted one comment before the normal bile, abusive personal attacks resumed.
Good luck Craig as a suggestion for lists picnic sites please.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: @Craig lyus. As you read the comments how about addressing the site abuse on here? This includes the thumb voting manipulation, lies about other contributers and single individuals using multiple log ins ?[/p][/quote]Yes, you should be stopped from lying about me being a councillor. Let's hope they put an end to your lies as soon as possible. And if they apply their own website rules, you'll also be banned for your near constant insulting of other contributors.[/p][/quote]Your behaviour has been noted by many. I'm glad they are now cleaning the site up. Nothing more to say.[/p][/quote]Wouldnt that be wonderful anything that cuts down on the hate speeches and increases on topic debate has got to be a good thing. As far as the thumbs go I dont know who cares its the same people that "thumb fiddle" and its not as if they get anything for it. Cleaning up the comments will last as long as it takes for the same people to either set up multiple accounts,,,,,again or thumb fiddle in another way. After recent complaints from a poster that I was picking on them I offered the solution lets only comment on topics and avoid personal attacks...this lasted one comment before the normal bile, abusive personal attacks resumed. Good luck Craig as a suggestion for lists picnic sites please. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: 0

10:29am Wed 21 May 14

FLOGGITLAD says...

Craig, can you say why my comment on here has been deleted, by I presume you or someone else at the adver...
Craig, can you say why my comment on here has been deleted, by I presume you or someone else at the adver... FLOGGITLAD
  • Score: 0

11:22am Wed 21 May 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

FLOGGITLAD wrote:
Craig, can you say why my comment on here has been deleted, by I presume you or someone else at the adver...
Names used?
If its something good change the names etc
[quote][p][bold]FLOGGITLAD[/bold] wrote: Craig, can you say why my comment on here has been deleted, by I presume you or someone else at the adver...[/p][/quote]Names used? If its something good change the names etc Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -1

1:36pm Wed 21 May 14

back_to_reality says...

Craig Lyus wrote:
back_to_reality wrote: "I don't really understand why a few of you get so irritated by these pieces". I think its just a spill-over of the irritation with the general poor quality of the news section; badly written, poorly researched, embarrassingly biased, duplicated dross, etc. If you sharpened up on quality generally then I'm sure readers would be more tolerant of fluff like this.
Possibly slightly harsh but I understand your point. We do the best job we can within the constraints of the current climate in which local newspapers are having to operate. I'll do what I can my end to keep the site as sharp as possible.
Craig, good to read your comments and I wish you well in your attempts to improve standards. The Adver is very poor even by regional standards and could use some of your professionalism in all departments. Good luck.
[quote][p][bold]Craig Lyus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]back_to_reality[/bold] wrote: "I don't really understand why a few of you get so irritated by these pieces". I think its just a spill-over of the irritation with the general poor quality of the news section; badly written, poorly researched, embarrassingly biased, duplicated dross, etc. If you sharpened up on quality generally then I'm sure readers would be more tolerant of fluff like this.[/p][/quote]Possibly slightly harsh but I understand your point. We do the best job we can within the constraints of the current climate in which local newspapers are having to operate. I'll do what I can my end to keep the site as sharp as possible.[/p][/quote]Craig, good to read your comments and I wish you well in your attempts to improve standards. The Adver is very poor even by regional standards and could use some of your professionalism in all departments. Good luck. back_to_reality
  • Score: 0

3:11pm Wed 21 May 14

ChannelX says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
@Craig lyus. As you read the comments how about addressing the site abuse on here? This includes the thumb voting manipulation, lies about other contributers and single individuals using multiple log ins ?
Yes, you should be stopped from lying about me being a councillor. Let's hope they put an end to your lies as soon as possible.

And if they apply their own website rules, you'll also be banned for your near constant insulting of other contributors.
Your behaviour has been noted by many. I'm glad they are now cleaning the site up. Nothing more to say.
Hopefully The Adver will apply their published site rules to you, Mr Gravey. A ban should be imposed for such a regular offender, but you may get away with a warning.

Same goes for 'Still About' - who maintains at least four active logins on this site and tries to wage campaigns against people he erroneously accuses of being councillors on this, and other, local websites.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: @Craig lyus. As you read the comments how about addressing the site abuse on here? This includes the thumb voting manipulation, lies about other contributers and single individuals using multiple log ins ?[/p][/quote]Yes, you should be stopped from lying about me being a councillor. Let's hope they put an end to your lies as soon as possible. And if they apply their own website rules, you'll also be banned for your near constant insulting of other contributors.[/p][/quote]Your behaviour has been noted by many. I'm glad they are now cleaning the site up. Nothing more to say.[/p][/quote]Hopefully The Adver will apply their published site rules to you, Mr Gravey. A ban should be imposed for such a regular offender, but you may get away with a warning. Same goes for 'Still About' - who maintains at least four active logins on this site and tries to wage campaigns against people he erroneously accuses of being councillors on this, and other, local websites. ChannelX
  • Score: 1

3:26pm Wed 21 May 14

FLOGGITLAD says...

there were no names mentioned apart from the words allegation about the council paying the charges for the Oasis and the million or so wasted on broadband when other are tripping over themselves to provide for free, that is news but this rag wont print it as it might upset the tories..
there were no names mentioned apart from the words allegation about the council paying the charges for the Oasis and the million or so wasted on broadband when other are tripping over themselves to provide for free, that is news but this rag wont print it as it might upset the tories.. FLOGGITLAD
  • Score: 1

8:18pm Wed 21 May 14

Craig Lyus says...

FLOGGITLAD wrote:
Craig, can you say why my comment on here has been deleted, by I presume you or someone else at the adver...
Touting another website, by the looks of it.
[quote][p][bold]FLOGGITLAD[/bold] wrote: Craig, can you say why my comment on here has been deleted, by I presume you or someone else at the adver...[/p][/quote]Touting another website, by the looks of it. Craig Lyus
  • Score: 1

9:06pm Wed 21 May 14

FLOGGITLAD says...

Can you say the actual reason it was taken off please, or is this the advers idea of democracy in true colours...
Can you say the actual reason it was taken off please, or is this the advers idea of democracy in true colours... FLOGGITLAD
  • Score: 0

1:47am Thu 22 May 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

FLOGGITLAD wrote:
Can you say the actual reason it was taken off please, or is this the advers idea of democracy in true colours...
Maybe post again without the offending web site addy that or just use twitter. Just curious to know now
[quote][p][bold]FLOGGITLAD[/bold] wrote: Can you say the actual reason it was taken off please, or is this the advers idea of democracy in true colours...[/p][/quote]Maybe post again without the offending web site addy that or just use twitter. Just curious to know now Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -1

7:10am Thu 22 May 14

FLOGGITLAD says...

Instead of such news as houses or restaurants, why not report allegations that the Oasis service charges are still being paid for by the council after being leased off, why ask why, when firms like EE and Vodafone are tripping over themselves to provide 4g broadband free, why is this council again giving away money, this time over 1 million to another firm who have provided almost nothing yet. We already have a complete loss of £400,000. so why more.
Instead of such news as houses or restaurants, why not report allegations that the Oasis service charges are still being paid for by the council after being leased off, why ask why, when firms like EE and Vodafone are tripping over themselves to provide 4g broadband free, why is this council again giving away money, this time over 1 million to another firm who have provided almost nothing yet. We already have a complete loss of £400,000. so why more. FLOGGITLAD
  • Score: 1

1:05pm Thu 22 May 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Craig Lyus wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
@Craig lyus. As you read the comments how about addressing the site abuse on here? This includes the thumb voting manipulation, lies about other contributers and single individuals using multiple log ins ?
Hello Davey. Tightening up the comments section is something I'm looking into at the moment. I had a meeting with some contributors on that very subject last week so hopefully you'll see some improvements in the coming weeks (or months).
Hi Craig,
Any idea when these new rules will come in?
[quote][p][bold]Craig Lyus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: @Craig lyus. As you read the comments how about addressing the site abuse on here? This includes the thumb voting manipulation, lies about other contributers and single individuals using multiple log ins ?[/p][/quote]Hello Davey. Tightening up the comments section is something I'm looking into at the moment. I had a meeting with some contributors on that very subject last week so hopefully you'll see some improvements in the coming weeks (or months).[/p][/quote]Hi Craig, Any idea when these new rules will come in? Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -1

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