Russian roulette drugs warning

Sergeant Scott Hargreave labels some of the seized legal highs

Sergeant Scott Hargreave labels some of the seized legal highs

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DRUGS squad police have seized kilos of a so-called ‘legal high’ likened to crystal methamphetamine and believed to be responsible for putting two people in hospital following psychotic episodes.

Wiltshire Police’s Dedicated Crime Team (DCT) stopped a 36-year-old man in Old Town on Tuesday and found him with a kilogram of white powder, a suspected cathinone-compound nicknamed ‘Crystal’ due to similarities with the effects of the class-A drug.

The man, who had been threatening to self-harm, was arrested on suspicion of possessing a class-B drug and was taken to Gablecross police station for questioning before being bailed.

A subsequent seizure in Old Town yesterday of a further couple of kilos means officers believe they have recovered most of the product destined for Swindon, although with the substances available over the internet they have issued an urgent warning not to take the substances.

Sergeant Scott Har-greave, who heads up the force’s drugs team, said: “People are playing Russian Roulette with their lives by taking these unknown substances because they have no idea what’s in them.”

There have been three incidents involving individuals believed to have taken ‘Crystal’, including a 36-year-old man rescued by officers from the top of Fleming Way car park at 5.45am yesterday and a 28-year-old man being talked down from 100ft scaffolding outside Aspen House at 2am on Wednesday.

A third man, 26, was picked up by officers after experiencing hallucinations in Victoria Road at around 10pm on Wednesday.

Each of the men received medical treatment, while two of them were serious enough to be taken to Great Western Hospital.

The man who climbed Aspen House was arrested on suspicion of criminal damage, while the man in Victoria Road was arrested on suspicion of being drunk and disorderly and both have been released on bail.

The substance is likened to Crystal Meth as it caused hallucinations and euphoria but it also causes users to re-medicate constantly. This can cause users to stay awake for five or six days and can lead to severe psychosis and paranoia.

Sgt Hargreave added: “We are satisfied we have recovered the majority of the substance destined for Swindon but there may be other sources of it,” he said.

“The symptoms are severe paranoia –we’ve had people think they have tracking devices in their heads and thinking they are being chased by 30 individuals wanting to kill them.

“People who have taken these can become violent and there have been threats of violence to officers – members of the public should call emergency services if they come across someone in this state and approach with caution.”

  • Anyone with information about illegal or legal drugs in Swindon is asked to contact Wiltshire Police on 101 or Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.
     
  • THE risk to public health of so-called legal highs entering the drugs supply chain in Swindon is of concern to the local authority and Police and Crime Commissioner.

    Reacting to the news of several incidents involving a powder nicknamed ‘Crystal’, Frances Mayes, senior public health manager at Swindon Council, said: “We are aware of reports that there is a substance in circulation in Swindon causing paranoia and reduced inhibitions, which can also lead to risk-taking behaviour.

    “The council therefore reiterates its advice to the public not to take any such substances, as they pose significant health and safety risks.”

    And the Police and Crime Commissioner for Wiltshire and Swindon, Angus Macpherson, said: “I am very concerned about the recent incidents involving so-called legal highs. There seems to be a misguided belief that, because a substance is called ‘legal’, it must be safe.

    “I know from the users I have talked to that these substances simply are not safe.
    "We must get across the message that taking an untested substance, even though it is not presently a banned one, could cause you long-term damage or even death.”

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6:57am Fri 23 May 14

house on the hill says...

More natural selection then, only idiots feel the need to do things like that. Most people can enjoy themselves without having to resort to mind altering drugs, but there are a lot of morons who clearly cant.
More natural selection then, only idiots feel the need to do things like that. Most people can enjoy themselves without having to resort to mind altering drugs, but there are a lot of morons who clearly cant. house on the hill
  • Score: 0

1:22pm Fri 23 May 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Drugs, drink its all roughly the same and used to escape.
Some should consider why people choose to live like this rather than finger pointing.
Those that dont have mummy and daddy to bail them out or buy them a house there is the other side that those that should been helping were actually hurting them.

I know there will be the inevitable calls of leftie etc....but I would suggest if you have no experience of this life directly or indirectly then you really dont know what you are talking about. Yes and opinion is fine but if this is based on second or third hand information it is an opinion based in ignorance.

From recent police statements and reports from the courts taking drugs bad you go to prison, knife crime is fine please dont carry a lethal weapon again. What are we supposed to understand from that?
Drugs, drink its all roughly the same and used to escape. Some should consider why people choose to live like this rather than finger pointing. Those that dont have mummy and daddy to bail them out or buy them a house there is the other side that those that should been helping were actually hurting them. I know there will be the inevitable calls of leftie etc....but I would suggest if you have no experience of this life directly or indirectly then you really dont know what you are talking about. Yes and opinion is fine but if this is based on second or third hand information it is an opinion based in ignorance. From recent police statements and reports from the courts taking drugs bad you go to prison, knife crime is fine please dont carry a lethal weapon again. What are we supposed to understand from that? Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: 2

2:13pm Fri 23 May 14

house on the hill says...

Badgersgetabadname wrote:
Drugs, drink its all roughly the same and used to escape.
Some should consider why people choose to live like this rather than finger pointing.
Those that dont have mummy and daddy to bail them out or buy them a house there is the other side that those that should been helping were actually hurting them.

I know there will be the inevitable calls of leftie etc....but I would suggest if you have no experience of this life directly or indirectly then you really dont know what you are talking about. Yes and opinion is fine but if this is based on second or third hand information it is an opinion based in ignorance.

From recent police statements and reports from the courts taking drugs bad you go to prison, knife crime is fine please dont carry a lethal weapon again. What are we supposed to understand from that?
Some of us lost our mummy and daddy at an early age with no inheritance whatsoever but still managed to have a good house, job, pension, relationship etc, too much stereotyping from the moron masses because its the easy option! And working in Social housing opens your eyes to many things and harsh realities of how society really is.

The problem is we give too much help resulting in this expectation culture where so many wonder why they bother to save and be responsible when the soft welfare state will go there there, you must be a victim of something, have a free house and kids that those horrible rich people will subsidise you for! This results in weakness and laziness and the nasty two tier society that these policies have created. So what is your experience then oh great one?
[quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: Drugs, drink its all roughly the same and used to escape. Some should consider why people choose to live like this rather than finger pointing. Those that dont have mummy and daddy to bail them out or buy them a house there is the other side that those that should been helping were actually hurting them. I know there will be the inevitable calls of leftie etc....but I would suggest if you have no experience of this life directly or indirectly then you really dont know what you are talking about. Yes and opinion is fine but if this is based on second or third hand information it is an opinion based in ignorance. From recent police statements and reports from the courts taking drugs bad you go to prison, knife crime is fine please dont carry a lethal weapon again. What are we supposed to understand from that?[/p][/quote]Some of us lost our mummy and daddy at an early age with no inheritance whatsoever but still managed to have a good house, job, pension, relationship etc, too much stereotyping from the moron masses because its the easy option! And working in Social housing opens your eyes to many things and harsh realities of how society really is. The problem is we give too much help resulting in this expectation culture where so many wonder why they bother to save and be responsible when the soft welfare state will go there there, you must be a victim of something, have a free house and kids that those horrible rich people will subsidise you for! This results in weakness and laziness and the nasty two tier society that these policies have created. So what is your experience then oh great one? house on the hill
  • Score: 2

2:50pm Sat 24 May 14

ChannelX says...

He was the person that said life experiences don't count for anything. Now he's claiming his life experiences count for more than other people's.

Make of that what you will.
He was the person that said life experiences don't count for anything. Now he's claiming his life experiences count for more than other people's. Make of that what you will. ChannelX
  • Score: 1

12:10pm Sun 25 May 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

house on the hill wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
Drugs, drink its all roughly the same and used to escape.
Some should consider why people choose to live like this rather than finger pointing.
Those that dont have mummy and daddy to bail them out or buy them a house there is the other side that those that should been helping were actually hurting them.

I know there will be the inevitable calls of leftie etc....but I would suggest if you have no experience of this life directly or indirectly then you really dont know what you are talking about. Yes and opinion is fine but if this is based on second or third hand information it is an opinion based in ignorance.

From recent police statements and reports from the courts taking drugs bad you go to prison, knife crime is fine please dont carry a lethal weapon again. What are we supposed to understand from that?
Some of us lost our mummy and daddy at an early age with no inheritance whatsoever but still managed to have a good house, job, pension, relationship etc, too much stereotyping from the moron masses because its the easy option! And working in Social housing opens your eyes to many things and harsh realities of how society really is.

The problem is we give too much help resulting in this expectation culture where so many wonder why they bother to save and be responsible when the soft welfare state will go there there, you must be a victim of something, have a free house and kids that those horrible rich people will subsidise you for! This results in weakness and laziness and the nasty two tier society that these policies have created. So what is your experience then oh great one?
People are seriously ill in hospital and you make light...classy well done.

But its not is it?
Temporary housing that is used by some as a permanent solution not all as you seem to infer. I am sorry that you job has made you so bitter towards people maybe a career change is in order if you havent already.

Is social housing a free house? They can sell it and move on? If thats the case my apologies I wasnt aware of that.
Benefits are supposed to be enough to get by in the short term UK benefits costings is approx £160 billion with £70 going to pensions there is a simple saving to begin with after all what are they actually providing?

I dont think anyone was suggesting giving money to all but in a civil society surely people should be protected while long term solutions are developed this is not the case. Continued fire fighting that hasnt worked in the past yet gov etc continue to do it.
Sorry I digress almost ended up droning on about benefits rather than the fact drug education should be welcomed and supported .
In the article there is a reference to a man that was self harming, now according to your comment he has picked the easy route. Every week there is a news story that talks about loss of life where someone has "slipped through the cracks" nobody ever woke up and said I am going to hurt myself as an easy option it takes time.
As he has been diagnosed as self harming he has been somewhere that verified him as having mental health issues he will of been given pills to relieve the stress which most likely would of resulted in sleep. Time after time this has shown to fail and the drugs do not work actual therapy works, one 2 one`s with a qualified mental health care professional works. When this help is not forthcoming (and it isnt allot more than is) the patient has been conditioned to know that taking drugs takes away bad thoughts, poor awareness and generally a broken cognitive process means poor choices can and will be made. No support, no help it isnt long before the thought process goes to whats the point and that is where habits overtake thought process.

Apologies it was difficult to answer your question as it was so slanted are you suggesting you are one of the "horrible rich"
Personally I think people should be aware of their mental health as much as physical health when this is left unchecked as with physical health it festers.

You said "only idiots feel the need to do things like that" and " Most people can enjoy themselves without having to resort to mind altering drugs". These comments only demonstrate your ignorance to the topic it is far more about escape.
But please dont let a rational thought process overtake your anger maybe some CBT would help you.
[quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: Drugs, drink its all roughly the same and used to escape. Some should consider why people choose to live like this rather than finger pointing. Those that dont have mummy and daddy to bail them out or buy them a house there is the other side that those that should been helping were actually hurting them. I know there will be the inevitable calls of leftie etc....but I would suggest if you have no experience of this life directly or indirectly then you really dont know what you are talking about. Yes and opinion is fine but if this is based on second or third hand information it is an opinion based in ignorance. From recent police statements and reports from the courts taking drugs bad you go to prison, knife crime is fine please dont carry a lethal weapon again. What are we supposed to understand from that?[/p][/quote]Some of us lost our mummy and daddy at an early age with no inheritance whatsoever but still managed to have a good house, job, pension, relationship etc, too much stereotyping from the moron masses because its the easy option! And working in Social housing opens your eyes to many things and harsh realities of how society really is. The problem is we give too much help resulting in this expectation culture where so many wonder why they bother to save and be responsible when the soft welfare state will go there there, you must be a victim of something, have a free house and kids that those horrible rich people will subsidise you for! This results in weakness and laziness and the nasty two tier society that these policies have created. So what is your experience then oh great one?[/p][/quote]People are seriously ill in hospital and you make light...classy well done. But its not is it? Temporary housing that is used by some as a permanent solution not all as you seem to infer. I am sorry that you job has made you so bitter towards people maybe a career change is in order if you havent already. Is social housing a free house? They can sell it and move on? If thats the case my apologies I wasnt aware of that. Benefits are supposed to be enough to get by in the short term UK benefits costings is approx £160 billion with £70 going to pensions there is a simple saving to begin with after all what are they actually providing? I dont think anyone was suggesting giving money to all but in a civil society surely people should be protected while long term solutions are developed this is not the case. Continued fire fighting that hasnt worked in the past yet gov etc continue to do it. Sorry I digress almost ended up droning on about benefits rather than the fact drug education should be welcomed and supported . In the article there is a reference to a man that was self harming, now according to your comment he has picked the easy route. Every week there is a news story that talks about loss of life where someone has "slipped through the cracks" nobody ever woke up and said I am going to hurt myself as an easy option it takes time. As he has been diagnosed as self harming he has been somewhere that verified him as having mental health issues he will of been given pills to relieve the stress which most likely would of resulted in sleep. Time after time this has shown to fail and the drugs do not work actual therapy works, one 2 one`s with a qualified mental health care professional works. When this help is not forthcoming (and it isnt allot more than is) the patient has been conditioned to know that taking drugs takes away bad thoughts, poor awareness and generally a broken cognitive process means poor choices can and will be made. No support, no help it isnt long before the thought process goes to whats the point and that is where habits overtake thought process. Apologies it was difficult to answer your question as it was so slanted are you suggesting you are one of the "horrible rich" Personally I think people should be aware of their mental health as much as physical health when this is left unchecked as with physical health it festers. You said "only idiots feel the need to do things like that" and " Most people can enjoy themselves without having to resort to mind altering drugs". These comments only demonstrate your ignorance to the topic it is far more about escape. But please dont let a rational thought process overtake your anger maybe some CBT would help you. Badgersgetabadname
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