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More people turning to foodbanks for aid

Swindon Advertiser: David Hartridge from Swindon Foodbank David Hartridge from Swindon Foodbank

EMERGENCY food handouts rose by 38 per cent in Swindon this year, but it’s purely down to accessibility and awareness of foodbanks, according to North Swindon MP Justin Tomlinson.

In a report published today by Oxfam, Church Action on Poverty and The Trussell Trust, which runs a network of foodbanks including Swindon’s, it is revealed more than 6,000 Swindon residents sought help in 2013/14.

For 2012/13, the figure was 4,378, a rise of almost 40 per cent in 12 months, which must be attributed to awareness of improved access and not the cost of living, says Mr Tomlinson.

“The increase is a reflection of the removal of the stigma of using foodbanks,” he said.

“And the Government’s decision to improve access, by providing vouchers at job centres and other agencies.

“This shows the collective good of the community working together to help others.

“Access has improved and there are more foodbanks opening. The more you open, the more usage will go up.”

The report, titled Below the Breadline, reveals foodbanks in the South West have grown in number from one in 2005 to 39 in 2014.

Lindsay Reade, 25, is one of those who has benefitted from the improved access. Shortly before Christmas 2010 she received vouchers for Swindon Foodbank from the job centre.

Miss Reade, of Downton Road, Penhill, now works at Burger King and has started her own jewellery business. She has not needed a handout since 2011.

There is a stigma or shame attached with foodbank use, she said, which is what keeps her in work and away from the handouts which made her feel ashamed.

“Even though they were friendly, I didn’t like going. It wasn’t nice to have to go and get free food,” she said.

“[I felt] quite low really. I’d worked since I was 16, so it was a very low point in my life. I was 21 at the time.

“I’d probably feel worse [going back now], if I’m honest. I’ve said countless times to friends and family, I’ll never go on jobseeker’s allowance again.

“I’ll jump from job to job if I have to, but I’ll never go back to the job centre.”

Miss Reade said the use of foodbanks is becoming more accepted, but only as a last resort. It should not be used by those too lazy to try to find work, she added.

John McKellar, 26, of Banwell Avenue, Park North, was another foodbank user in Swindon. He is concerned there is a wrongful stigma attached to food handouts.

The M&S stock handler, who turned to Swindon Foodbank after being sanctioned by the job centre while on jobseeker’s allowance, said it is wrong for people to feel bad about using a service which saves lives.

“People shouldn’t have to be ashamed of using them,” he said. “The foodbank service needs proper support as they don’t seem to have enough.”

Asked if he felt people were ashamed to use the foodbank, he said: “That’s what I heard from a lot of people that have used them. They should advertise it as it’s no-one’s fault that they have been put in the situation they’re in. Then I reckon more people will use them.”

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7:59am Mon 9 Jun 14

ChannelX says...

If the Job Centre are now handing out vouchers for Foodbanks, of course Foodbanks will be used more often by more people.

Like all such benefits, once established, they will never disappear and will only become more popular. Who wouldn't want free food handed to them?

What makes me very uncomfortable about this is that the company that runs them is a private organisation. By more closely integrating with the State, all they've done is managed to create a business that is now essentially being funded by the taxpayer. So, they have all the upsides of being a private sector company while having the public underpin their finances.

Very clever and lucrative for those behind it., but not good news for the taxpayer.

What government will ever not increase funding for a company that can always turn round and say, 'You mean, you want to see people STARVE to death?!'
If the Job Centre are now handing out vouchers for Foodbanks, of course Foodbanks will be used more often by more people. Like all such benefits, once established, they will never disappear and will only become more popular. Who wouldn't want free food handed to them? What makes me very uncomfortable about this is that the company that runs them is a private organisation. By more closely integrating with the State, all they've done is managed to create a business that is now essentially being funded by the taxpayer. So, they have all the upsides of being a private sector company while having the public underpin their finances. Very clever and lucrative for those behind it., but not good news for the taxpayer. What government will ever not increase funding for a company that can always turn round and say, 'You mean, you want to see people STARVE to death?!' ChannelX
  • Score: 10

8:53am Mon 9 Jun 14

A.Baron-Cohen says...

"6,000 Swindon residents sought help in 2013/14" how many of them were classed as obese?
"6,000 Swindon residents sought help in 2013/14" how many of them were classed as obese? A.Baron-Cohen
  • Score: 1

9:38am Mon 9 Jun 14

Morsey says...

There, but for the grace of God, go I ...

Justin always will take the denial angle when it comes down to his Government's policies towards the kind if needy people such as those who are directed to foodbanks.

They also say that record numbers of people are in 'work' (which could be a very small number of hours a week) ... but, when it is analysed, it's pretty clear that if the total population rises by millions during their term of office, there will be more jobs created for their needs for a start!

Misrepresentation as the sitting MPs try to get hard and think about the General Election next year ... let's have enough of this denial policy and admit that situations really do occur where the likes of foodbanks are becoming more necessary. Go and have a word with the Triumph workers being made redundant shortly, will they all get jobs which pay enough to keep them out of poverty ... who knows ... more potential foodbank users?
There, but for the grace of God, go I ... Justin always will take the denial angle when it comes down to his Government's policies towards the kind if needy people such as those who are directed to foodbanks. They also say that record numbers of people are in 'work' (which could be a very small number of hours a week) ... but, when it is analysed, it's pretty clear that if the total population rises by millions during their term of office, there will be more jobs created for their needs for a start! Misrepresentation as the sitting MPs try to get hard and think about the General Election next year ... let's have enough of this denial policy and admit that situations really do occur where the likes of foodbanks are becoming more necessary. Go and have a word with the Triumph workers being made redundant shortly, will they all get jobs which pay enough to keep them out of poverty ... who knows ... more potential foodbank users? Morsey
  • Score: -13

9:42am Mon 9 Jun 14

Wildwestener says...

A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
"6,000 Swindon residents sought help in 2013/14" how many of them were classed as obese?
What a thing to say. I truly hope if you ever need help, you meet someone just like yourself when asking for it and you realise just how onjectionable it is. And no, I've never used a foodbank, nor taken any benefits in my entire life but I'm very happy to contribute to them so others don't starve.
[quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: "6,000 Swindon residents sought help in 2013/14" how many of them were classed as obese?[/p][/quote]What a thing to say. I truly hope if you ever need help, you meet someone just like yourself when asking for it and you realise just how onjectionable it is. And no, I've never used a foodbank, nor taken any benefits in my entire life but I'm very happy to contribute to them so others don't starve. Wildwestener
  • Score: 1

10:05am Mon 9 Jun 14

Hmmmf says...

Morsey wrote:
There, but for the grace of God, go I ...

So, you're saying god used his grace to make poor people poor, and used his grace to make you not-poor? Is there a set selection criteria for who gets to be not-poor?
[quote][p][bold]Morsey[/bold] wrote: There, but for the grace of God, go I ...[/quote] So, you're saying god used his grace to make poor people poor, and used his grace to make you not-poor? Is there a set selection criteria for who gets to be not-poor? Hmmmf
  • Score: 9

10:33am Mon 9 Jun 14

A.Baron-Cohen says...

Wildwestener wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
"6,000 Swindon residents sought help in 2013/14" how many of them were classed as obese?
What a thing to say. I truly hope if you ever need help, you meet someone just like yourself when asking for it and you realise just how onjectionable it is. And no, I've never used a foodbank, nor taken any benefits in my entire life but I'm very happy to contribute to them so others don't starve.
Those needing the food bank demonstrate their inability to manage a budget.
It would be helpful for these people to get food and clothes stamps rather than money, as we very well know how much of it is spent of cigs, booze, sky, and other non essential items....
[quote][p][bold]Wildwestener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: "6,000 Swindon residents sought help in 2013/14" how many of them were classed as obese?[/p][/quote]What a thing to say. I truly hope if you ever need help, you meet someone just like yourself when asking for it and you realise just how onjectionable it is. And no, I've never used a foodbank, nor taken any benefits in my entire life but I'm very happy to contribute to them so others don't starve.[/p][/quote]Those needing the food bank demonstrate their inability to manage a budget. It would be helpful for these people to get food and clothes stamps rather than money, as we very well know how much of it is spent of cigs, booze, sky, and other non essential items.... A.Baron-Cohen
  • Score: 11

11:26am Mon 9 Jun 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

There is a food crisis in Britain that is a fact.
We (its our society) have significant number number of people who are in poverty and hunger this must be dealt with. Lots of finger pointing as usual with no solutions offered.
To suggest this is solely an issue of managing money is just silly, government have reduced the number of unemployed well done but as so many of these are zero hours contracts when the hours given out do not cover bills or rent or food people are forced back to the benefits system. As we know there are many delays in the "system" and this is where people and families can spiral.

I know in previous threads the normal anti benefits argument is that monies are spent of drink and drugs but now that vouchers are issued which presumably can only be used at foodbanks people are still complaining.

A person is working but on a zero hours contract and has over 16 hours per week this is not enough to claim support for, there are less hours available so you need to go back to benefits which can take weeks to kick in. Cant pay all things so what do you do? Power? Food? Children? Transport? Save or try to improve your life?
This is not a one off event this happens to thousands of people affecting thousands of families.

So many complain that SBC and co dont know what they are doing and fail in so many aspects yet choose to think that they run a perfect benefit system handing out cash to anyone that wants it.
Long term benefits with no good reason? Regular one 2 one`s need to happen not just be scheduled honest questions and answers need to asked. Do you want to work? What can you do? What do you expect to gain for what you provide?
I also feel a line needs to be drawn as far as benefits families and a two child claim maximum (obviously there are lots of other areas that need to be looked at as well). Consecutive governments have failed the people and whats happened has happened there must be a date set and this is when this happens from.
This country is a long way from recovery.
There is a food crisis in Britain that is a fact. We (its our society) have significant number number of people who are in poverty and hunger this must be dealt with. Lots of finger pointing as usual with no solutions offered. To suggest this is solely an issue of managing money is just silly, government have reduced the number of unemployed well done but as so many of these are zero hours contracts when the hours given out do not cover bills or rent or food people are forced back to the benefits system. As we know there are many delays in the "system" and this is where people and families can spiral. I know in previous threads the normal anti benefits argument is that monies are spent of drink and drugs but now that vouchers are issued which presumably can only be used at foodbanks people are still complaining. A person is working but on a zero hours contract and has over 16 hours per week this is not enough to claim support for, there are less hours available so you need to go back to benefits which can take weeks to kick in. Cant pay all things so what do you do? Power? Food? Children? Transport? Save or try to improve your life? This is not a one off event this happens to thousands of people affecting thousands of families. So many complain that SBC and co dont know what they are doing and fail in so many aspects yet choose to think that they run a perfect benefit system handing out cash to anyone that wants it. Long term benefits with no good reason? Regular one 2 one`s need to happen not just be scheduled honest questions and answers need to asked. Do you want to work? What can you do? What do you expect to gain for what you provide? I also feel a line needs to be drawn as far as benefits families and a two child claim maximum (obviously there are lots of other areas that need to be looked at as well). Consecutive governments have failed the people and whats happened has happened there must be a date set and this is when this happens from. This country is a long way from recovery. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -3

11:28am Mon 9 Jun 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Its early for the thumb fiddling.
Its early for the thumb fiddling. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -2

12:04pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Davey Gravey says...

Blatant fiddling again.
Blatant spin from an mp whose party is creating this problem too.
Here's another post for the fiddler to down vote. Na na nana na
Blatant fiddling again. Blatant spin from an mp whose party is creating this problem too. Here's another post for the fiddler to down vote. Na na nana na Davey Gravey
  • Score: -5

12:38pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Davethered says...

I'm absolutely sure now that some people on this forum have numerous log ins. I can't believe how some of the very good post on here gets voted down , whilst the bigoted one's always by the same people gets voted up. Thumbs up or down who gives a toss anyway. The only people who write on here are people with nothing better to do , much like myself , you old saddos
I'm absolutely sure now that some people on this forum have numerous log ins. I can't believe how some of the very good post on here gets voted down , whilst the bigoted one's always by the same people gets voted up. Thumbs up or down who gives a toss anyway. The only people who write on here are people with nothing better to do , much like myself , you old saddos Davethered
  • Score: 3

12:41pm Mon 9 Jun 14

ChannelX says...

Davethered wrote:
I'm absolutely sure now that some people on this forum have numerous log ins. I can't believe how some of the very good post on here gets voted down , whilst the bigoted one's always by the same people gets voted up. Thumbs up or down who gives a toss anyway. The only people who write on here are people with nothing better to do , much like myself , you old saddos
It's clear that Davey Gravey often uses several devices to vote for posts numerous times, yes.

What he doesn't seem to be able to grasp is that other people don't share his views.

The minute anything doesn't go his way, he makes wild accusations about 'fiddling'. He seems to post about little else these days. Apart from the usual anti-Tory stuff he's well known for.
[quote][p][bold]Davethered[/bold] wrote: I'm absolutely sure now that some people on this forum have numerous log ins. I can't believe how some of the very good post on here gets voted down , whilst the bigoted one's always by the same people gets voted up. Thumbs up or down who gives a toss anyway. The only people who write on here are people with nothing better to do , much like myself , you old saddos[/p][/quote]It's clear that Davey Gravey often uses several devices to vote for posts numerous times, yes. What he doesn't seem to be able to grasp is that other people don't share his views. The minute anything doesn't go his way, he makes wild accusations about 'fiddling'. He seems to post about little else these days. Apart from the usual anti-Tory stuff he's well known for. ChannelX
  • Score: 5

1:07pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Davey Gravey says...

ChannelX wrote:
Davethered wrote:
I'm absolutely sure now that some people on this forum have numerous log ins. I can't believe how some of the very good post on here gets voted down , whilst the bigoted one's always by the same people gets voted up. Thumbs up or down who gives a toss anyway. The only people who write on here are people with nothing better to do , much like myself , you old saddos
It's clear that Davey Gravey often uses several devices to vote for posts numerous times, yes.

What he doesn't seem to be able to grasp is that other people don't share his views.

The minute anything doesn't go his way, he makes wild accusations about 'fiddling'. He seems to post about little else these days. Apart from the usual anti-Tory stuff he's well known for.
I've already addressed these false claims numerous times but i will do so again.

I access the site with either my phone or my home pc.

I don't care who agrees with me or not.

I've noted the fiddling and will continue to mention it until it stops.

How you can accuse me of little else when you roll out the same guff day after day I do not know?
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davethered[/bold] wrote: I'm absolutely sure now that some people on this forum have numerous log ins. I can't believe how some of the very good post on here gets voted down , whilst the bigoted one's always by the same people gets voted up. Thumbs up or down who gives a toss anyway. The only people who write on here are people with nothing better to do , much like myself , you old saddos[/p][/quote]It's clear that Davey Gravey often uses several devices to vote for posts numerous times, yes. What he doesn't seem to be able to grasp is that other people don't share his views. The minute anything doesn't go his way, he makes wild accusations about 'fiddling'. He seems to post about little else these days. Apart from the usual anti-Tory stuff he's well known for.[/p][/quote]I've already addressed these false claims numerous times but i will do so again. I access the site with either my phone or my home pc. I don't care who agrees with me or not. I've noted the fiddling and will continue to mention it until it stops. How you can accuse me of little else when you roll out the same guff day after day I do not know? Davey Gravey
  • Score: -4

1:12pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

No,no argue and call each other names,,,,,that is productive.
Blaming victims for crimes has never worked but it continues to happen, same arguments, same "evidence" and number fudging.

Define insanity.......Knowi
ng something doesnt work but continue to do it.
Government can say that the economy is turning but that shows how far removed most are from real problems or just the contempt with which voters are treated.
No,no argue and call each other names,,,,,that is productive. Blaming victims for crimes has never worked but it continues to happen, same arguments, same "evidence" and number fudging. Define insanity.......Knowi ng something doesnt work but continue to do it. Government can say that the economy is turning but that shows how far removed most are from real problems or just the contempt with which voters are treated. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -6

1:15pm Mon 9 Jun 14

ChannelX says...

Badgersgetabadname wrote:
No,no argue and call each other names,,,,,that is productive.
Blaming victims for crimes has never worked but it continues to happen, same arguments, same "evidence" and number fudging.

Define insanity.......Knowi

ng something doesnt work but continue to do it.
Government can say that the economy is turning but that shows how far removed most are from real problems or just the contempt with which voters are treated.
Hopefully you have some idea what the above it supposed to mean.
[quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: No,no argue and call each other names,,,,,that is productive. Blaming victims for crimes has never worked but it continues to happen, same arguments, same "evidence" and number fudging. Define insanity.......Knowi ng something doesnt work but continue to do it. Government can say that the economy is turning but that shows how far removed most are from real problems or just the contempt with which voters are treated.[/p][/quote]Hopefully you have some idea what the above it supposed to mean. ChannelX
  • Score: 3

1:18pm Mon 9 Jun 14

ChannelX says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Davethered wrote:
I'm absolutely sure now that some people on this forum have numerous log ins. I can't believe how some of the very good post on here gets voted down , whilst the bigoted one's always by the same people gets voted up. Thumbs up or down who gives a toss anyway. The only people who write on here are people with nothing better to do , much like myself , you old saddos
It's clear that Davey Gravey often uses several devices to vote for posts numerous times, yes.

What he doesn't seem to be able to grasp is that other people don't share his views.

The minute anything doesn't go his way, he makes wild accusations about 'fiddling'. He seems to post about little else these days. Apart from the usual anti-Tory stuff he's well known for.
I've already addressed these false claims numerous times but i will do so again.

I access the site with either my phone or my home pc.

I don't care who agrees with me or not.

I've noted the fiddling and will continue to mention it until it stops.

How you can accuse me of little else when you roll out the same guff day after day I do not know?
So, you refute all claims that you manipulate voting - despite admitting to using two different devices to access the site - and yet you still continue to make false accusations about others supposedly manipulating the voting.

This is the problem with all of your posts, Davey, you think you're right and everyone else is wrong.

In that regard, I can fully understand why you think 'the thumbs' have been 'fiddled', as you insist on putting it.

For someone who claims not to care, you seem to be the only person who cares very passionately about it.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davethered[/bold] wrote: I'm absolutely sure now that some people on this forum have numerous log ins. I can't believe how some of the very good post on here gets voted down , whilst the bigoted one's always by the same people gets voted up. Thumbs up or down who gives a toss anyway. The only people who write on here are people with nothing better to do , much like myself , you old saddos[/p][/quote]It's clear that Davey Gravey often uses several devices to vote for posts numerous times, yes. What he doesn't seem to be able to grasp is that other people don't share his views. The minute anything doesn't go his way, he makes wild accusations about 'fiddling'. He seems to post about little else these days. Apart from the usual anti-Tory stuff he's well known for.[/p][/quote]I've already addressed these false claims numerous times but i will do so again. I access the site with either my phone or my home pc. I don't care who agrees with me or not. I've noted the fiddling and will continue to mention it until it stops. How you can accuse me of little else when you roll out the same guff day after day I do not know?[/p][/quote]So, you refute all claims that you manipulate voting - despite admitting to using two different devices to access the site - and yet you still continue to make false accusations about others supposedly manipulating the voting. This is the problem with all of your posts, Davey, you think you're right and everyone else is wrong. In that regard, I can fully understand why you think 'the thumbs' have been 'fiddled', as you insist on putting it. For someone who claims not to care, you seem to be the only person who cares very passionately about it. ChannelX
  • Score: 4

1:45pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

ChannelX wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
No,no argue and call each other names,,,,,that is productive.
Blaming victims for crimes has never worked but it continues to happen, same arguments, same "evidence" and number fudging.

Define insanity.......Knowi


ng something doesnt work but continue to do it.
Government can say that the economy is turning but that shows how far removed most are from real problems or just the contempt with which voters are treated.
Hopefully you have some idea what the above it supposed to mean.
I have asked you on numerous occasions to stop replying to my posts but you have continued to follow over the last few weeks now. Do you understand how weird that is?

You have 4 accounts on this site that is a fact.
You attempt to derail topics you see as a threat to you (you are nothing and not important) I fail to see why you see these things as a threat.
You previously made comments that you would like to machine gun lefties??? or was it an AK47 your quote I wouldnt want to mis-quote you.

Looking forward to new rules coming in which will hopefully diminish your hate or at least clamp down on your multiple accounts although it is funny to watch....Does agreeing with your own post make you feel better?

Annnnyway you made no reply to my first comment as it would of required a reasoned argument you are incapable you recycle the same spurious nonsense and again attempt to derail debate with personal attacks.
You make the same accusations at people everyday in some attempt to bully people that dont agree with you (your own accounts) off of the site.
Would it be better if I just go back to pointing out you are an idiot in each reply?
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: No,no argue and call each other names,,,,,that is productive. Blaming victims for crimes has never worked but it continues to happen, same arguments, same "evidence" and number fudging. Define insanity.......Knowi ng something doesnt work but continue to do it. Government can say that the economy is turning but that shows how far removed most are from real problems or just the contempt with which voters are treated.[/p][/quote]Hopefully you have some idea what the above it supposed to mean.[/p][/quote]I have asked you on numerous occasions to stop replying to my posts but you have continued to follow over the last few weeks now. Do you understand how weird that is? You have 4 accounts on this site that is a fact. You attempt to derail topics you see as a threat to you (you are nothing and not important) I fail to see why you see these things as a threat. You previously made comments that you would like to machine gun lefties??? or was it an AK47 your quote I wouldnt want to mis-quote you. Looking forward to new rules coming in which will hopefully diminish your hate or at least clamp down on your multiple accounts although it is funny to watch....Does agreeing with your own post make you feel better? Annnnyway you made no reply to my first comment as it would of required a reasoned argument you are incapable you recycle the same spurious nonsense and again attempt to derail debate with personal attacks. You make the same accusations at people everyday in some attempt to bully people that dont agree with you (your own accounts) off of the site. Would it be better if I just go back to pointing out you are an idiot in each reply? Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -4

1:51pm Mon 9 Jun 14

DOGLAWRENCE says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Davethered wrote:
I'm absolutely sure now that some people on this forum have numerous log ins. I can't believe how some of the very good post on here gets voted down , whilst the bigoted one's always by the same people gets voted up. Thumbs up or down who gives a toss anyway. The only people who write on here are people with nothing better to do , much like myself , you old saddos
It's clear that Davey Gravey often uses several devices to vote for posts numerous times, yes.

What he doesn't seem to be able to grasp is that other people don't share his views.

The minute anything doesn't go his way, he makes wild accusations about 'fiddling'. He seems to post about little else these days. Apart from the usual anti-Tory stuff he's well known for.
I've already addressed these false claims numerous times but i will do so again.

I access the site with either my phone or my home pc.

I don't care who agrees with me or not.

I've noted the fiddling and will continue to mention it until it stops.

How you can accuse me of little else when you roll out the same guff day after day I do not know?
I agree with you Davey a lot of Sensible Comments get Down Voted no Doubt by Tory Supporters who do not like the Truth .
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davethered[/bold] wrote: I'm absolutely sure now that some people on this forum have numerous log ins. I can't believe how some of the very good post on here gets voted down , whilst the bigoted one's always by the same people gets voted up. Thumbs up or down who gives a toss anyway. The only people who write on here are people with nothing better to do , much like myself , you old saddos[/p][/quote]It's clear that Davey Gravey often uses several devices to vote for posts numerous times, yes. What he doesn't seem to be able to grasp is that other people don't share his views. The minute anything doesn't go his way, he makes wild accusations about 'fiddling'. He seems to post about little else these days. Apart from the usual anti-Tory stuff he's well known for.[/p][/quote]I've already addressed these false claims numerous times but i will do so again. I access the site with either my phone or my home pc. I don't care who agrees with me or not. I've noted the fiddling and will continue to mention it until it stops. How you can accuse me of little else when you roll out the same guff day after day I do not know?[/p][/quote]I agree with you Davey a lot of Sensible Comments get Down Voted no Doubt by Tory Supporters who do not like the Truth . DOGLAWRENCE
  • Score: -2

1:52pm Mon 9 Jun 14

mrwoo says...

I visited the sperm bank once but it left a bad taste in my mouth.
I visited the sperm bank once but it left a bad taste in my mouth. mrwoo
  • Score: 3

1:57pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Morsey says...

I think some of the full-time correspondents are quite young, or not actually working ... but, then again, some jobs are boring and allow the employee full use of the internet for whatever purpose?

I don't think that adult, rational, people of any political persuasion would comment in the way that some do on here, it's not really in joined up writing is it?

Do any of them ever deliver political material through letterboxes, or are they merely keyboard activists with an agenda to hate, hate, and hate again?
I think some of the full-time correspondents are quite young, or not actually working ... but, then again, some jobs are boring and allow the employee full use of the internet for whatever purpose? I don't think that adult, rational, people of any political persuasion would comment in the way that some do on here, it's not really in joined up writing is it? Do any of them ever deliver political material through letterboxes, or are they merely keyboard activists with an agenda to hate, hate, and hate again? Morsey
  • Score: -11

1:57pm Mon 9 Jun 14

ChannelX says...

Badgersgetabadname wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
No,no argue and call each other names,,,,,that is productive.
Blaming victims for crimes has never worked but it continues to happen, same arguments, same "evidence" and number fudging.

Define insanity.......Knowi



ng something doesnt work but continue to do it.
Government can say that the economy is turning but that shows how far removed most are from real problems or just the contempt with which voters are treated.
Hopefully you have some idea what the above it supposed to mean.
I have asked you on numerous occasions to stop replying to my posts but you have continued to follow over the last few weeks now. Do you understand how weird that is?

You have 4 accounts on this site that is a fact.
You attempt to derail topics you see as a threat to you (you are nothing and not important) I fail to see why you see these things as a threat.
You previously made comments that you would like to machine gun lefties??? or was it an AK47 your quote I wouldnt want to mis-quote you.

Looking forward to new rules coming in which will hopefully diminish your hate or at least clamp down on your multiple accounts although it is funny to watch....Does agreeing with your own post make you feel better?

Annnnyway you made no reply to my first comment as it would of required a reasoned argument you are incapable you recycle the same spurious nonsense and again attempt to derail debate with personal attacks.
You make the same accusations at people everyday in some attempt to bully people that dont agree with you (your own accounts) off of the site.
Would it be better if I just go back to pointing out you are an idiot in each reply?
a) I do not 'follow' you - at all. This seems to be a very weird mistake that several people here make (purely coincidence?). I read various articles and sometimes post on them. Sometimes you do also. You often choose to incoherently reply to my posts - and that's fine, it's what happens. It doesn't mean you're 'following' me.

b) I have ONE account here. Just because you and Davey appear to have chosen to believe an absolute nutcase who actually DOES maintain at least five user accounts here does not make your misguided belief a reality.

c) The new 'rules' will not affect me because I only have one account here. Please, try and at least make an attempt to understand something that is very, very simple.

d) As for everything else you've written, it's just the usual nonsense of you thinking things that haven't actually happened. Everyone knows it's impossible to actual discuss anything with you because you just respond with stream of consciousness rantings that don't reflect what's actually been posted.

e) You and Davey are the most routinely insulting and bullying people on this site but, as usual, you don't even realise it and simply accuse anyone who disagrees with your views of being nasty to you.

f) Finally, almost none of the posts you make actually make any sense, so how are people supposed to respond to them with reasoned argument?
[quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: No,no argue and call each other names,,,,,that is productive. Blaming victims for crimes has never worked but it continues to happen, same arguments, same "evidence" and number fudging. Define insanity.......Knowi ng something doesnt work but continue to do it. Government can say that the economy is turning but that shows how far removed most are from real problems or just the contempt with which voters are treated.[/p][/quote]Hopefully you have some idea what the above it supposed to mean.[/p][/quote]I have asked you on numerous occasions to stop replying to my posts but you have continued to follow over the last few weeks now. Do you understand how weird that is? You have 4 accounts on this site that is a fact. You attempt to derail topics you see as a threat to you (you are nothing and not important) I fail to see why you see these things as a threat. You previously made comments that you would like to machine gun lefties??? or was it an AK47 your quote I wouldnt want to mis-quote you. Looking forward to new rules coming in which will hopefully diminish your hate or at least clamp down on your multiple accounts although it is funny to watch....Does agreeing with your own post make you feel better? Annnnyway you made no reply to my first comment as it would of required a reasoned argument you are incapable you recycle the same spurious nonsense and again attempt to derail debate with personal attacks. You make the same accusations at people everyday in some attempt to bully people that dont agree with you (your own accounts) off of the site. Would it be better if I just go back to pointing out you are an idiot in each reply?[/p][/quote]a) I do not 'follow' you - at all. This seems to be a very weird mistake that several people here make (purely coincidence?). I read various articles and sometimes post on them. Sometimes you do also. You often choose to incoherently reply to my posts - and that's fine, it's what happens. It doesn't mean you're 'following' me. b) I have ONE account here. Just because you and Davey appear to have chosen to believe an absolute nutcase who actually DOES maintain at least five user accounts here does not make your misguided belief a reality. c) The new 'rules' will not affect me because I only have one account here. Please, try and at least make an attempt to understand something that is very, very simple. d) As for everything else you've written, it's just the usual nonsense of you thinking things that haven't actually happened. Everyone knows it's impossible to actual discuss anything with you because you just respond with stream of consciousness rantings that don't reflect what's actually been posted. e) You and Davey are the most routinely insulting and bullying people on this site but, as usual, you don't even realise it and simply accuse anyone who disagrees with your views of being nasty to you. f) Finally, almost none of the posts you make actually make any sense, so how are people supposed to respond to them with reasoned argument? ChannelX
  • Score: 4

1:59pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Hmmmf says...

Badgersgetabadname wrote:
I have asked you on numerous occasions to stop replying to my posts

Annnnyway you made no reply to my first comment as it would of required a reasoned argument

So you complain that ChannelX replies to your posts, and then complain that he made no reply to your post. Do you understand how weird that is?
[quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: I have asked you on numerous occasions to stop replying to my posts Annnnyway you made no reply to my first comment as it would of required a reasoned argument [/quote] So you complain that ChannelX replies to your posts, and then complain that he made no reply to your post. Do you understand how weird that is? Hmmmf
  • Score: 8

2:04pm Mon 9 Jun 14

ChannelX says...

Hmmmf wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
I have asked you on numerous occasions to stop replying to my posts

Annnnyway you made no reply to my first comment as it would of required a reasoned argument

So you complain that ChannelX replies to your posts, and then complain that he made no reply to your post. Do you understand how weird that is?
Of course he won't, that's kind of the whole problem.
[quote][p][bold]Hmmmf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: I have asked you on numerous occasions to stop replying to my posts Annnnyway you made no reply to my first comment as it would of required a reasoned argument [/quote] So you complain that ChannelX replies to your posts, and then complain that he made no reply to your post. Do you understand how weird that is?[/p][/quote]Of course he won't, that's kind of the whole problem. ChannelX
  • Score: 3

2:51pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

ChannelX wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
No,no argue and call each other names,,,,,that is productive.
Blaming victims for crimes has never worked but it continues to happen, same arguments, same "evidence" and number fudging.

Define insanity.......Knowi




ng something doesnt work but continue to do it.
Government can say that the economy is turning but that shows how far removed most are from real problems or just the contempt with which voters are treated.
Hopefully you have some idea what the above it supposed to mean.
I have asked you on numerous occasions to stop replying to my posts but you have continued to follow over the last few weeks now. Do you understand how weird that is?

You have 4 accounts on this site that is a fact.
You attempt to derail topics you see as a threat to you (you are nothing and not important) I fail to see why you see these things as a threat.
You previously made comments that you would like to machine gun lefties??? or was it an AK47 your quote I wouldnt want to mis-quote you.

Looking forward to new rules coming in which will hopefully diminish your hate or at least clamp down on your multiple accounts although it is funny to watch....Does agreeing with your own post make you feel better?

Annnnyway you made no reply to my first comment as it would of required a reasoned argument you are incapable you recycle the same spurious nonsense and again attempt to derail debate with personal attacks.
You make the same accusations at people everyday in some attempt to bully people that dont agree with you (your own accounts) off of the site.
Would it be better if I just go back to pointing out you are an idiot in each reply?
a) I do not 'follow' you - at all. This seems to be a very weird mistake that several people here make (purely coincidence?). I read various articles and sometimes post on them. Sometimes you do also. You often choose to incoherently reply to my posts - and that's fine, it's what happens. It doesn't mean you're 'following' me.

b) I have ONE account here. Just because you and Davey appear to have chosen to believe an absolute nutcase who actually DOES maintain at least five user accounts here does not make your misguided belief a reality.

c) The new 'rules' will not affect me because I only have one account here. Please, try and at least make an attempt to understand something that is very, very simple.

d) As for everything else you've written, it's just the usual nonsense of you thinking things that haven't actually happened. Everyone knows it's impossible to actual discuss anything with you because you just respond with stream of consciousness rantings that don't reflect what's actually been posted.

e) You and Davey are the most routinely insulting and bullying people on this site but, as usual, you don't even realise it and simply accuse anyone who disagrees with your views of being nasty to you.

f) Finally, almost none of the posts you make actually make any sense, so how are people supposed to respond to them with reasoned argument?
Your an idiot
[quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: No,no argue and call each other names,,,,,that is productive. Blaming victims for crimes has never worked but it continues to happen, same arguments, same "evidence" and number fudging. Define insanity.......Knowi ng something doesnt work but continue to do it. Government can say that the economy is turning but that shows how far removed most are from real problems or just the contempt with which voters are treated.[/p][/quote]Hopefully you have some idea what the above it supposed to mean.[/p][/quote]I have asked you on numerous occasions to stop replying to my posts but you have continued to follow over the last few weeks now. Do you understand how weird that is? You have 4 accounts on this site that is a fact. You attempt to derail topics you see as a threat to you (you are nothing and not important) I fail to see why you see these things as a threat. You previously made comments that you would like to machine gun lefties??? or was it an AK47 your quote I wouldnt want to mis-quote you. Looking forward to new rules coming in which will hopefully diminish your hate or at least clamp down on your multiple accounts although it is funny to watch....Does agreeing with your own post make you feel better? Annnnyway you made no reply to my first comment as it would of required a reasoned argument you are incapable you recycle the same spurious nonsense and again attempt to derail debate with personal attacks. You make the same accusations at people everyday in some attempt to bully people that dont agree with you (your own accounts) off of the site. Would it be better if I just go back to pointing out you are an idiot in each reply?[/p][/quote]a) I do not 'follow' you - at all. This seems to be a very weird mistake that several people here make (purely coincidence?). I read various articles and sometimes post on them. Sometimes you do also. You often choose to incoherently reply to my posts - and that's fine, it's what happens. It doesn't mean you're 'following' me. b) I have ONE account here. Just because you and Davey appear to have chosen to believe an absolute nutcase who actually DOES maintain at least five user accounts here does not make your misguided belief a reality. c) The new 'rules' will not affect me because I only have one account here. Please, try and at least make an attempt to understand something that is very, very simple. d) As for everything else you've written, it's just the usual nonsense of you thinking things that haven't actually happened. Everyone knows it's impossible to actual discuss anything with you because you just respond with stream of consciousness rantings that don't reflect what's actually been posted. e) You and Davey are the most routinely insulting and bullying people on this site but, as usual, you don't even realise it and simply accuse anyone who disagrees with your views of being nasty to you. f) Finally, almost none of the posts you make actually make any sense, so how are people supposed to respond to them with reasoned argument?[/p][/quote]Your an idiot Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -8

2:53pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Hmmmf wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
I have asked you on numerous occasions to stop replying to my posts

Annnnyway you made no reply to my first comment as it would of required a reasoned argument

So you complain that ChannelX replies to your posts, and then complain that he made no reply to your post. Do you understand how weird that is?
Hi Chan,,,sorry Hmmmf oh whatever.
I explained that in the post.
[quote][p][bold]Hmmmf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: I have asked you on numerous occasions to stop replying to my posts Annnnyway you made no reply to my first comment as it would of required a reasoned argument [/quote] So you complain that ChannelX replies to your posts, and then complain that he made no reply to your post. Do you understand how weird that is?[/p][/quote]Hi Chan,,,sorry Hmmmf oh whatever. I explained that in the post. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -10

2:59pm Mon 9 Jun 14

ChannelX says...

Badgersgetabadname wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
ChannelX wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
No,no argue and call each other names,,,,,that is productive.
Blaming victims for crimes has never worked but it continues to happen, same arguments, same "evidence" and number fudging.

Define insanity.......Knowi





ng something doesnt work but continue to do it.
Government can say that the economy is turning but that shows how far removed most are from real problems or just the contempt with which voters are treated.
Hopefully you have some idea what the above it supposed to mean.
I have asked you on numerous occasions to stop replying to my posts but you have continued to follow over the last few weeks now. Do you understand how weird that is?

You have 4 accounts on this site that is a fact.
You attempt to derail topics you see as a threat to you (you are nothing and not important) I fail to see why you see these things as a threat.
You previously made comments that you would like to machine gun lefties??? or was it an AK47 your quote I wouldnt want to mis-quote you.

Looking forward to new rules coming in which will hopefully diminish your hate or at least clamp down on your multiple accounts although it is funny to watch....Does agreeing with your own post make you feel better?

Annnnyway you made no reply to my first comment as it would of required a reasoned argument you are incapable you recycle the same spurious nonsense and again attempt to derail debate with personal attacks.
You make the same accusations at people everyday in some attempt to bully people that dont agree with you (your own accounts) off of the site.
Would it be better if I just go back to pointing out you are an idiot in each reply?
a) I do not 'follow' you - at all. This seems to be a very weird mistake that several people here make (purely coincidence?). I read various articles and sometimes post on them. Sometimes you do also. You often choose to incoherently reply to my posts - and that's fine, it's what happens. It doesn't mean you're 'following' me.

b) I have ONE account here. Just because you and Davey appear to have chosen to believe an absolute nutcase who actually DOES maintain at least five user accounts here does not make your misguided belief a reality.

c) The new 'rules' will not affect me because I only have one account here. Please, try and at least make an attempt to understand something that is very, very simple.

d) As for everything else you've written, it's just the usual nonsense of you thinking things that haven't actually happened. Everyone knows it's impossible to actual discuss anything with you because you just respond with stream of consciousness rantings that don't reflect what's actually been posted.

e) You and Davey are the most routinely insulting and bullying people on this site but, as usual, you don't even realise it and simply accuse anyone who disagrees with your views of being nasty to you.

f) Finally, almost none of the posts you make actually make any sense, so how are people supposed to respond to them with reasoned argument?
Your an idiot
Well, there's irony for you.
[quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChannelX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: No,no argue and call each other names,,,,,that is productive. Blaming victims for crimes has never worked but it continues to happen, same arguments, same "evidence" and number fudging. Define insanity.......Knowi ng something doesnt work but continue to do it. Government can say that the economy is turning but that shows how far removed most are from real problems or just the contempt with which voters are treated.[/p][/quote]Hopefully you have some idea what the above it supposed to mean.[/p][/quote]I have asked you on numerous occasions to stop replying to my posts but you have continued to follow over the last few weeks now. Do you understand how weird that is? You have 4 accounts on this site that is a fact. You attempt to derail topics you see as a threat to you (you are nothing and not important) I fail to see why you see these things as a threat. You previously made comments that you would like to machine gun lefties??? or was it an AK47 your quote I wouldnt want to mis-quote you. Looking forward to new rules coming in which will hopefully diminish your hate or at least clamp down on your multiple accounts although it is funny to watch....Does agreeing with your own post make you feel better? Annnnyway you made no reply to my first comment as it would of required a reasoned argument you are incapable you recycle the same spurious nonsense and again attempt to derail debate with personal attacks. You make the same accusations at people everyday in some attempt to bully people that dont agree with you (your own accounts) off of the site. Would it be better if I just go back to pointing out you are an idiot in each reply?[/p][/quote]a) I do not 'follow' you - at all. This seems to be a very weird mistake that several people here make (purely coincidence?). I read various articles and sometimes post on them. Sometimes you do also. You often choose to incoherently reply to my posts - and that's fine, it's what happens. It doesn't mean you're 'following' me. b) I have ONE account here. Just because you and Davey appear to have chosen to believe an absolute nutcase who actually DOES maintain at least five user accounts here does not make your misguided belief a reality. c) The new 'rules' will not affect me because I only have one account here. Please, try and at least make an attempt to understand something that is very, very simple. d) As for everything else you've written, it's just the usual nonsense of you thinking things that haven't actually happened. Everyone knows it's impossible to actual discuss anything with you because you just respond with stream of consciousness rantings that don't reflect what's actually been posted. e) You and Davey are the most routinely insulting and bullying people on this site but, as usual, you don't even realise it and simply accuse anyone who disagrees with your views of being nasty to you. f) Finally, almost none of the posts you make actually make any sense, so how are people supposed to respond to them with reasoned argument?[/p][/quote]Your an idiot[/p][/quote]Well, there's irony for you. ChannelX
  • Score: 9

2:59pm Mon 9 Jun 14

ChannelX says...

Badgersgetabadname wrote:
Hmmmf wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
I have asked you on numerous occasions to stop replying to my posts

Annnnyway you made no reply to my first comment as it would of required a reasoned argument

So you complain that ChannelX replies to your posts, and then complain that he made no reply to your post. Do you understand how weird that is?
Hi Chan,,,sorry Hmmmf oh whatever.
I explained that in the post.
No, you didn't. Thus, once again, proving my point about you to be entirely true.
[quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hmmmf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: I have asked you on numerous occasions to stop replying to my posts Annnnyway you made no reply to my first comment as it would of required a reasoned argument [/quote] So you complain that ChannelX replies to your posts, and then complain that he made no reply to your post. Do you understand how weird that is?[/p][/quote]Hi Chan,,,sorry Hmmmf oh whatever. I explained that in the post.[/p][/quote]No, you didn't. Thus, once again, proving my point about you to be entirely true. ChannelX
  • Score: 4

3:53pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Hmmmf says...

Have a look at:
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=4PQrz8F0d
BI

Or google "A prophetic interview with Sir James Goldsmith in 1994", it'll lead you there. Of course it's easy in hindsight to describe his predictions as accurate now they've come to pass, but it doesn't make his rationale any less convincing. The only real difference between then and now is that not only do companies outsource to 'low cost regions' as they began to do in the 90s, but today in the UK low cost labour is imported from poorer EU countries. A double-whammy for local employment.
Have a look at: http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=4PQrz8F0d BI Or google "A prophetic interview with Sir James Goldsmith in 1994", it'll lead you there. Of course it's easy in hindsight to describe his predictions as accurate now they've come to pass, but it doesn't make his rationale any less convincing. The only real difference between then and now is that not only do companies outsource to 'low cost regions' as they began to do in the 90s, but today in the UK low cost labour is imported from poorer EU countries. A double-whammy for local employment. Hmmmf
  • Score: 6

4:23pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Wildwestener says...

A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Wildwestener wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
"6,000 Swindon residents sought help in 2013/14" how many of them were classed as obese?
What a thing to say. I truly hope if you ever need help, you meet someone just like yourself when asking for it and you realise just how onjectionable it is. And no, I've never used a foodbank, nor taken any benefits in my entire life but I'm very happy to contribute to them so others don't starve.
Those needing the food bank demonstrate their inability to manage a budget.
It would be helpful for these people to get food and clothes stamps rather than money, as we very well know how much of it is spent of cigs, booze, sky, and other non essential items....
Utter rubbish; you've no idea what you are talking about. You tar everyone with the same brush. No doubt some act as you suggest but not all. As I say, I hope you never need help and come across someone like you in seeking it.
[quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wildwestener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: "6,000 Swindon residents sought help in 2013/14" how many of them were classed as obese?[/p][/quote]What a thing to say. I truly hope if you ever need help, you meet someone just like yourself when asking for it and you realise just how onjectionable it is. And no, I've never used a foodbank, nor taken any benefits in my entire life but I'm very happy to contribute to them so others don't starve.[/p][/quote]Those needing the food bank demonstrate their inability to manage a budget. It would be helpful for these people to get food and clothes stamps rather than money, as we very well know how much of it is spent of cigs, booze, sky, and other non essential items....[/p][/quote]Utter rubbish; you've no idea what you are talking about. You tar everyone with the same brush. No doubt some act as you suggest but not all. As I say, I hope you never need help and come across someone like you in seeking it. Wildwestener
  • Score: -4

4:25pm Mon 9 Jun 14

bowlerc67 says...

Oh my god!!!!!!! I am disabled, have been for years although I brought up 3 girls and kept down a full time job for many, many years!!!!!!!
Now I am unabled to work (even though I would dearly love to go back to the job im fully qualified for!!!!)...... my benefit was sanctioned last december and I reluctantly had to ask for help from these guys!!!! As I doubt anyone could live for 4 weeks without any money or food!!!!! I do NOT HAVE SKY, I DO NOT DRINK AND NOR DO I SMOKE OH AND I DO NOT HAVE LOADS OF ANIMALS!!!!!
I am just a 'normal' NON judgemental person who is unable to do what I enjoy most...... I cannot go out and do anything because I do not live on an overdraft or even have a huge mortgage!!!! I live within my means.......I dont believe in credit.....
I am deeply offended by the above comments as you do not know everyone elses circumstances AT ALL ....... BIGOTRY IS LIVE AND KICKING HERE!!!!!!!!
Oh my god!!!!!!! I am disabled, have been for years although I brought up 3 girls and kept down a full time job for many, many years!!!!!!! Now I am unabled to work (even though I would dearly love to go back to the job im fully qualified for!!!!)...... my benefit was sanctioned last december and I reluctantly had to ask for help from these guys!!!! As I doubt anyone could live for 4 weeks without any money or food!!!!! I do NOT HAVE SKY, I DO NOT DRINK AND NOR DO I SMOKE OH AND I DO NOT HAVE LOADS OF ANIMALS!!!!! I am just a 'normal' NON judgemental person who is unable to do what I enjoy most...... I cannot go out and do anything because I do not live on an overdraft or even have a huge mortgage!!!! I live within my means.......I dont believe in credit..... I am deeply offended by the above comments as you do not know everyone elses circumstances AT ALL ....... BIGOTRY IS LIVE AND KICKING HERE!!!!!!!! bowlerc67
  • Score: 3

4:33pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Whats the point.
To continue in circles is madness.
Thankfully you mean nothing to me, it used to entertain but its just boring now.
Whats the point. To continue in circles is madness. Thankfully you mean nothing to me, it used to entertain but its just boring now. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -9

4:33pm Mon 9 Jun 14

bowlerc67 says...

mrwoo wrote:
I visited the sperm bank once but it left a bad taste in my mouth.
OMG not relevant!!!!! Very offensive comment
[quote][p][bold]mrwoo[/bold] wrote: I visited the sperm bank once but it left a bad taste in my mouth.[/p][/quote]OMG not relevant!!!!! Very offensive comment bowlerc67
  • Score: -2

4:35pm Mon 9 Jun 14

bowlerc67 says...

mrwoo wrote:
I visited the sperm bank once but it left a bad taste in my mouth.
OMG not relevant!!!!! Very offensive comment
[quote][p][bold]mrwoo[/bold] wrote: I visited the sperm bank once but it left a bad taste in my mouth.[/p][/quote]OMG not relevant!!!!! Very offensive comment bowlerc67
  • Score: 0

4:39pm Mon 9 Jun 14

DOGLAWRENCE says...

bowlerc67 wrote:
Oh my god!!!!!!! I am disabled, have been for years although I brought up 3 girls and kept down a full time job for many, many years!!!!!!!
Now I am unabled to work (even though I would dearly love to go back to the job im fully qualified for!!!!)...... my benefit was sanctioned last december and I reluctantly had to ask for help from these guys!!!! As I doubt anyone could live for 4 weeks without any money or food!!!!! I do NOT HAVE SKY, I DO NOT DRINK AND NOR DO I SMOKE OH AND I DO NOT HAVE LOADS OF ANIMALS!!!!!
I am just a 'normal' NON judgemental person who is unable to do what I enjoy most...... I cannot go out and do anything because I do not live on an overdraft or even have a huge mortgage!!!! I live within my means.......I dont believe in credit.....
I am deeply offended by the above comments as you do not know everyone elses circumstances AT ALL ....... BIGOTRY IS LIVE AND KICKING HERE!!!!!!!!
First Sensible thing on Here not every one on Benefits has all Mod Cons + smokes but a lot of People seem to think Benefits Britain on TV is true to life would Suggest People take the time to Watch Breadline Kids on Channel 4 at 7.30 tonight but no Doubt most TORYS will say is not True
[quote][p][bold]bowlerc67[/bold] wrote: Oh my god!!!!!!! I am disabled, have been for years although I brought up 3 girls and kept down a full time job for many, many years!!!!!!! Now I am unabled to work (even though I would dearly love to go back to the job im fully qualified for!!!!)...... my benefit was sanctioned last december and I reluctantly had to ask for help from these guys!!!! As I doubt anyone could live for 4 weeks without any money or food!!!!! I do NOT HAVE SKY, I DO NOT DRINK AND NOR DO I SMOKE OH AND I DO NOT HAVE LOADS OF ANIMALS!!!!! I am just a 'normal' NON judgemental person who is unable to do what I enjoy most...... I cannot go out and do anything because I do not live on an overdraft or even have a huge mortgage!!!! I live within my means.......I dont believe in credit..... I am deeply offended by the above comments as you do not know everyone elses circumstances AT ALL ....... BIGOTRY IS LIVE AND KICKING HERE!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]First Sensible thing on Here not every one on Benefits has all Mod Cons + smokes but a lot of People seem to think Benefits Britain on TV is true to life would Suggest People take the time to Watch Breadline Kids on Channel 4 at 7.30 tonight but no Doubt most TORYS will say is not True DOGLAWRENCE
  • Score: -1

4:57pm Mon 9 Jun 14

ChannelX says...

bowlerc67 wrote:
Oh my god!!!!!!! I am disabled, have been for years although I brought up 3 girls and kept down a full time job for many, many years!!!!!!!
Now I am unabled to work (even though I would dearly love to go back to the job im fully qualified for!!!!)...... my benefit was sanctioned last december and I reluctantly had to ask for help from these guys!!!! As I doubt anyone could live for 4 weeks without any money or food!!!!! I do NOT HAVE SKY, I DO NOT DRINK AND NOR DO I SMOKE OH AND I DO NOT HAVE LOADS OF ANIMALS!!!!!
I am just a 'normal' NON judgemental person who is unable to do what I enjoy most...... I cannot go out and do anything because I do not live on an overdraft or even have a huge mortgage!!!! I live within my means.......I dont believe in credit.....
I am deeply offended by the above comments as you do not know everyone elses circumstances AT ALL ....... BIGOTRY IS LIVE AND KICKING HERE!!!!!!!!
Nobody, to my knowledge, has a problem with people who *genuinely* need assistance in being able to physically have enough food to eat.

However, you cannot deny that when you look around most 'deprived' areas, where people tend to live on benefits, a lot of those households have subscription TV services, mobile phones, designer clothes / trainers, smoke, drink, sometimes indulge in drug use and quite often have pets (often multiple pets).

Do you really not see how some people might find it odd that people who claim not to be able to feed themselves have the money available to feed numerous pets?

Also, it's fairly pointless insisting on taking these things personally. As long as you know you're a genuine claimant, why does it matter?

At the risk of stating the obvious, it's not genuine cases - such as yourself - that people take issue to.
[quote][p][bold]bowlerc67[/bold] wrote: Oh my god!!!!!!! I am disabled, have been for years although I brought up 3 girls and kept down a full time job for many, many years!!!!!!! Now I am unabled to work (even though I would dearly love to go back to the job im fully qualified for!!!!)...... my benefit was sanctioned last december and I reluctantly had to ask for help from these guys!!!! As I doubt anyone could live for 4 weeks without any money or food!!!!! I do NOT HAVE SKY, I DO NOT DRINK AND NOR DO I SMOKE OH AND I DO NOT HAVE LOADS OF ANIMALS!!!!! I am just a 'normal' NON judgemental person who is unable to do what I enjoy most...... I cannot go out and do anything because I do not live on an overdraft or even have a huge mortgage!!!! I live within my means.......I dont believe in credit..... I am deeply offended by the above comments as you do not know everyone elses circumstances AT ALL ....... BIGOTRY IS LIVE AND KICKING HERE!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Nobody, to my knowledge, has a problem with people who *genuinely* need assistance in being able to physically have enough food to eat. However, you cannot deny that when you look around most 'deprived' areas, where people tend to live on benefits, a lot of those households have subscription TV services, mobile phones, designer clothes / trainers, smoke, drink, sometimes indulge in drug use and quite often have pets (often multiple pets). Do you really not see how some people might find it odd that people who claim not to be able to feed themselves have the money available to feed numerous pets? Also, it's fairly pointless insisting on taking these things personally. As long as you know you're a genuine claimant, why does it matter? At the risk of stating the obvious, it's not genuine cases - such as yourself - that people take issue to. ChannelX
  • Score: 4

5:31pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Hmmmf says...

bowlerc67 wrote:
my benefit was sanctioned last december and I reluctantly had to ask for help from these guys!!!!

Just as a matter of interest, may we know why your benefit was sanctioned? My understanding that these things don't normally happen spontaneously and without reason?
[quote][p][bold]bowlerc67[/bold] wrote: my benefit was sanctioned last december and I reluctantly had to ask for help from these guys!!!! [/quote] Just as a matter of interest, may we know why your benefit was sanctioned? My understanding that these things don't normally happen spontaneously and without reason? Hmmmf
  • Score: 8

6:43pm Mon 9 Jun 14

mrwoo says...

bowlerc67 wrote:
mrwoo wrote:
I visited the sperm bank once but it left a bad taste in my mouth.
OMG not relevant!!!!! Very offensive comment
sorry I meant food bank haha, silly me :(
[quote][p][bold]bowlerc67[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrwoo[/bold] wrote: I visited the sperm bank once but it left a bad taste in my mouth.[/p][/quote]OMG not relevant!!!!! Very offensive comment[/p][/quote]sorry I meant food bank haha, silly me :( mrwoo
  • Score: 2

8:03pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Morsey says...

As I said ... immaturity leads some correspondents to write about something about which they are privileged to be immune from.
As I said ... immaturity leads some correspondents to write about something about which they are privileged to be immune from. Morsey
  • Score: -6

8:27am Tue 10 Jun 14

A.Baron-Cohen says...

bowlerc67 wrote:
Oh my god!!!!!!! I am disabled, have been for years although I brought up 3 girls and kept down a full time job for many, many years!!!!!!!
Now I am unabled to work (even though I would dearly love to go back to the job im fully qualified for!!!!)...... my benefit was sanctioned last december and I reluctantly had to ask for help from these guys!!!! As I doubt anyone could live for 4 weeks without any money or food!!!!! I do NOT HAVE SKY, I DO NOT DRINK AND NOR DO I SMOKE OH AND I DO NOT HAVE LOADS OF ANIMALS!!!!!
I am just a 'normal' NON judgemental person who is unable to do what I enjoy most...... I cannot go out and do anything because I do not live on an overdraft or even have a huge mortgage!!!! I live within my means.......I dont believe in credit.....
I am deeply offended by the above comments as you do not know everyone elses circumstances AT ALL ....... BIGOTRY IS LIVE AND KICKING HERE!!!!!!!!
Well I am truly sorry to hear about your situation, and I hope that you will get better soon and will be able to work again.
The food bank is for emergency only, in your case it obviously fits the purpose, but often food banks are used by people who are abusing the generosity of others.
I am not a bigot. but it is true that I strongly believe that before asking for help, we should try to be responsible for our lives and the choices we made.
I wish you all the best
[quote][p][bold]bowlerc67[/bold] wrote: Oh my god!!!!!!! I am disabled, have been for years although I brought up 3 girls and kept down a full time job for many, many years!!!!!!! Now I am unabled to work (even though I would dearly love to go back to the job im fully qualified for!!!!)...... my benefit was sanctioned last december and I reluctantly had to ask for help from these guys!!!! As I doubt anyone could live for 4 weeks without any money or food!!!!! I do NOT HAVE SKY, I DO NOT DRINK AND NOR DO I SMOKE OH AND I DO NOT HAVE LOADS OF ANIMALS!!!!! I am just a 'normal' NON judgemental person who is unable to do what I enjoy most...... I cannot go out and do anything because I do not live on an overdraft or even have a huge mortgage!!!! I live within my means.......I dont believe in credit..... I am deeply offended by the above comments as you do not know everyone elses circumstances AT ALL ....... BIGOTRY IS LIVE AND KICKING HERE!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Well I am truly sorry to hear about your situation, and I hope that you will get better soon and will be able to work again. The food bank is for emergency only, in your case it obviously fits the purpose, but often food banks are used by people who are abusing the generosity of others. I am not a bigot. but it is true that I strongly believe that before asking for help, we should try to be responsible for our lives and the choices we made. I wish you all the best A.Baron-Cohen
  • Score: 3

9:17am Tue 10 Jun 14

Morsey says...

Keep digging the hole ... some nasty commentators should just give up on your philosophy when it involves a voluntary arm of decent society trying to help genuine people in need ... be thankful it ain't you, don't hide under a pseudonym and snipe, that's not clever and does no credit.
Keep digging the hole ... some nasty commentators should just give up on your philosophy when it involves a voluntary arm of decent society trying to help genuine people in need ... be thankful it ain't you, don't hide under a pseudonym and snipe, that's not clever and does no credit. Morsey
  • Score: -7

10:16am Tue 10 Jun 14

ChannelX says...

Morsey wrote:
Keep digging the hole ... some nasty commentators should just give up on your philosophy when it involves a voluntary arm of decent society trying to help genuine people in need ... be thankful it ain't you, don't hide under a pseudonym and snipe, that's not clever and does no credit.
'Voluntary'?!

Think again before spouting your ridiculous Lefty nonsense.
[quote][p][bold]Morsey[/bold] wrote: Keep digging the hole ... some nasty commentators should just give up on your philosophy when it involves a voluntary arm of decent society trying to help genuine people in need ... be thankful it ain't you, don't hide under a pseudonym and snipe, that's not clever and does no credit.[/p][/quote]'Voluntary'?! Think again before spouting your ridiculous Lefty nonsense. ChannelX
  • Score: 2

11:32am Tue 10 Jun 14

Spurs Fan says...

Am I right in thinking that you need to be referred to the food bank to access it's service? My understanding is the DHS, NHS or a social worker etc would need to make a referral. If this is the case then only those in genuine need would get help. This seems to me to make a mockery of those on here who seem to think that anyone no matter their need can just stroll in and get a handout. I notice that as usual the usual right leaning group of commentators are still peddling their stereotypical bigoted view of those who access the benefits system. I particularly like the post about looking around areas where those on benefits mostly live! Talk about stigmatization. Every area of every town in this country will have people on housing benefit, collecting pensions, family allowances etc.
Am I right in thinking that you need to be referred to the food bank to access it's service? My understanding is the DHS, NHS or a social worker etc would need to make a referral. If this is the case then only those in genuine need would get help. This seems to me to make a mockery of those on here who seem to think that anyone no matter their need can just stroll in and get a handout. I notice that as usual the usual right leaning group of commentators are still peddling their stereotypical bigoted view of those who access the benefits system. I particularly like the post about looking around areas where those on benefits mostly live! Talk about stigmatization. Every area of every town in this country will have people on housing benefit, collecting pensions, family allowances etc. Spurs Fan
  • Score: -2

12:00pm Tue 10 Jun 14

ChannelX says...

Spurs Fan wrote:
Am I right in thinking that you need to be referred to the food bank to access it's service? My understanding is the DHS, NHS or a social worker etc would need to make a referral. If this is the case then only those in genuine need would get help. This seems to me to make a mockery of those on here who seem to think that anyone no matter their need can just stroll in and get a handout. I notice that as usual the usual right leaning group of commentators are still peddling their stereotypical bigoted view of those who access the benefits system. I particularly like the post about looking around areas where those on benefits mostly live! Talk about stigmatization. Every area of every town in this country will have people on housing benefit, collecting pensions, family allowances etc.
@Spurs Fan - I know you have a very naive view of the world, but have you ever witnessed how the Job Centre, Benefits Centre and Social Services departments actually work?

Anyone who shouts loudly enough and pleads poverty will get what they want. None of those departments make any serious investigation into what their 'clients' have spent all their welfare payments on - that's half the problem.

However, one thing you are right about is that people on benefits are now everywhere, thanks to Labour's 13 years of attempting to make as many of the electorate as dependent on state benefits as they could. So it's no surprise.

That said, anyone who has spent any time on the well known council estate areas will know exactly what the reality is and what a large percentage of benefits payments are actually spent on.

To deny it is either willful ignorance or the sign of a political ideology in utter denial.
[quote][p][bold]Spurs Fan[/bold] wrote: Am I right in thinking that you need to be referred to the food bank to access it's service? My understanding is the DHS, NHS or a social worker etc would need to make a referral. If this is the case then only those in genuine need would get help. This seems to me to make a mockery of those on here who seem to think that anyone no matter their need can just stroll in and get a handout. I notice that as usual the usual right leaning group of commentators are still peddling their stereotypical bigoted view of those who access the benefits system. I particularly like the post about looking around areas where those on benefits mostly live! Talk about stigmatization. Every area of every town in this country will have people on housing benefit, collecting pensions, family allowances etc.[/p][/quote]@Spurs Fan - I know you have a very naive view of the world, but have you ever witnessed how the Job Centre, Benefits Centre and Social Services departments actually work? Anyone who shouts loudly enough and pleads poverty will get what they want. None of those departments make any serious investigation into what their 'clients' have spent all their welfare payments on - that's half the problem. However, one thing you are right about is that people on benefits are now everywhere, thanks to Labour's 13 years of attempting to make as many of the electorate as dependent on state benefits as they could. So it's no surprise. That said, anyone who has spent any time on the well known council estate areas will know exactly what the reality is and what a large percentage of benefits payments are actually spent on. To deny it is either willful ignorance or the sign of a political ideology in utter denial. ChannelX
  • Score: 5

4:13pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Spurs Fan says...

ChannelX - the first universal benefits were first introduced under the Liberal government of 1909. Even in my naivety, I would not blame that on New Labour as you appear to do! You appear as right wing individual to want less state control, yet you appear to want some kind of control of what people spend their benefits on? Is this not a case of double standards or just Tory hypocrisy? Finally how do you know if you shout loud enough you will get what you want from the benefits system without investigation? Have you research to back up this claim or is this more bigoted right wing lies?
ChannelX - the first universal benefits were first introduced under the Liberal government of 1909. Even in my naivety, I would not blame that on New Labour as you appear to do! You appear as right wing individual to want less state control, yet you appear to want some kind of control of what people spend their benefits on? Is this not a case of double standards or just Tory hypocrisy? Finally how do you know if you shout loud enough you will get what you want from the benefits system without investigation? Have you research to back up this claim or is this more bigoted right wing lies? Spurs Fan
  • Score: -3

5:14pm Tue 10 Jun 14

IfItsONtheNet says...

Allot of this thread genuinely makes me sad,,,,ignorant opinions with no basis what so ever.
When I am on holiday I used to take great pleasure in introducing my home town as Swindon (thanks to a few TV series we have dubious fame) yes the place might look a little odd but the people are caring and there is a real sense of community. By the last few weeks of this site that appears to no longer be the case. Shame.

As I understand it nobody wants to have to use a foodbank, there is little wonder as to why there is a stigma when there are thoughtless sweeping statements made. As with so many comments made in ignorance as soon as the face of an issue arrives there is an immediate climb down.

@Bowler thank you for your honest comments on what must be a daily struggle. I do hope things improve for you soon.
Allot of this thread genuinely makes me sad,,,,ignorant opinions with no basis what so ever. When I am on holiday I used to take great pleasure in introducing my home town as Swindon (thanks to a few TV series we have dubious fame) yes the place might look a little odd but the people are caring and there is a real sense of community. By the last few weeks of this site that appears to no longer be the case. Shame. As I understand it nobody wants to have to use a foodbank, there is little wonder as to why there is a stigma when there are thoughtless sweeping statements made. As with so many comments made in ignorance as soon as the face of an issue arrives there is an immediate climb down. @Bowler thank you for your honest comments on what must be a daily struggle. I do hope things improve for you soon. IfItsONtheNet
  • Score: -1

5:21pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Spurs Fan says...

IfItsONtheNet wrote:
Allot of this thread genuinely makes me sad,,,,ignorant opinions with no basis what so ever.
When I am on holiday I used to take great pleasure in introducing my home town as Swindon (thanks to a few TV series we have dubious fame) yes the place might look a little odd but the people are caring and there is a real sense of community. By the last few weeks of this site that appears to no longer be the case. Shame.

As I understand it nobody wants to have to use a foodbank, there is little wonder as to why there is a stigma when there are thoughtless sweeping statements made. As with so many comments made in ignorance as soon as the face of an issue arrives there is an immediate climb down.

@Bowler thank you for your honest comments on what must be a daily struggle. I do hope things improve for you soon.
Ifitsonthenet, I think the vast majority of people in Swindon are caring and community minded. There are even a few who post on the Adver site! However, it does appear that many of the commentators who post on this site day in and day out are people with right wing views who denigrate others who do not fit in with their twisted world view.
[quote][p][bold]IfItsONtheNet[/bold] wrote: Allot of this thread genuinely makes me sad,,,,ignorant opinions with no basis what so ever. When I am on holiday I used to take great pleasure in introducing my home town as Swindon (thanks to a few TV series we have dubious fame) yes the place might look a little odd but the people are caring and there is a real sense of community. By the last few weeks of this site that appears to no longer be the case. Shame. As I understand it nobody wants to have to use a foodbank, there is little wonder as to why there is a stigma when there are thoughtless sweeping statements made. As with so many comments made in ignorance as soon as the face of an issue arrives there is an immediate climb down. @Bowler thank you for your honest comments on what must be a daily struggle. I do hope things improve for you soon.[/p][/quote]Ifitsonthenet, I think the vast majority of people in Swindon are caring and community minded. There are even a few who post on the Adver site! However, it does appear that many of the commentators who post on this site day in and day out are people with right wing views who denigrate others who do not fit in with their twisted world view. Spurs Fan
  • Score: -2

5:51pm Tue 10 Jun 14

IfItsONtheNet says...

Spurs Fan wrote:
IfItsONtheNet wrote:
Allot of this thread genuinely makes me sad,,,,ignorant opinions with no basis what so ever.
When I am on holiday I used to take great pleasure in introducing my home town as Swindon (thanks to a few TV series we have dubious fame) yes the place might look a little odd but the people are caring and there is a real sense of community. By the last few weeks of this site that appears to no longer be the case. Shame.

As I understand it nobody wants to have to use a foodbank, there is little wonder as to why there is a stigma when there are thoughtless sweeping statements made. As with so many comments made in ignorance as soon as the face of an issue arrives there is an immediate climb down.

@Bowler thank you for your honest comments on what must be a daily struggle. I do hope things improve for you soon.
Ifitsonthenet, I think the vast majority of people in Swindon are caring and community minded. There are even a few who post on the Adver site! However, it does appear that many of the commentators who post on this site day in and day out are people with right wing views who denigrate others who do not fit in with their twisted world view.
Is it just me or does it read like bullying people off the site. Well attempting to anyway, Some really pretty callous things said.
[quote][p][bold]Spurs Fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IfItsONtheNet[/bold] wrote: Allot of this thread genuinely makes me sad,,,,ignorant opinions with no basis what so ever. When I am on holiday I used to take great pleasure in introducing my home town as Swindon (thanks to a few TV series we have dubious fame) yes the place might look a little odd but the people are caring and there is a real sense of community. By the last few weeks of this site that appears to no longer be the case. Shame. As I understand it nobody wants to have to use a foodbank, there is little wonder as to why there is a stigma when there are thoughtless sweeping statements made. As with so many comments made in ignorance as soon as the face of an issue arrives there is an immediate climb down. @Bowler thank you for your honest comments on what must be a daily struggle. I do hope things improve for you soon.[/p][/quote]Ifitsonthenet, I think the vast majority of people in Swindon are caring and community minded. There are even a few who post on the Adver site! However, it does appear that many of the commentators who post on this site day in and day out are people with right wing views who denigrate others who do not fit in with their twisted world view.[/p][/quote]Is it just me or does it read like bullying people off the site. Well attempting to anyway, Some really pretty callous things said. IfItsONtheNet
  • Score: -1

3:29am Wed 11 Jun 14

ChannelX says...

Spurs Fan wrote:
ChannelX - the first universal benefits were first introduced under the Liberal government of 1909. Even in my naivety, I would not blame that on New Labour as you appear to do! You appear as right wing individual to want less state control, yet you appear to want some kind of control of what people spend their benefits on? Is this not a case of double standards or just Tory hypocrisy? Finally how do you know if you shout loud enough you will get what you want from the benefits system without investigation? Have you research to back up this claim or is this more bigoted right wing lies?
Even by your standards, the above is a very poor post.
[quote][p][bold]Spurs Fan[/bold] wrote: ChannelX - the first universal benefits were first introduced under the Liberal government of 1909. Even in my naivety, I would not blame that on New Labour as you appear to do! You appear as right wing individual to want less state control, yet you appear to want some kind of control of what people spend their benefits on? Is this not a case of double standards or just Tory hypocrisy? Finally how do you know if you shout loud enough you will get what you want from the benefits system without investigation? Have you research to back up this claim or is this more bigoted right wing lies?[/p][/quote]Even by your standards, the above is a very poor post. ChannelX
  • Score: 3

9:23am Wed 11 Jun 14

Spurs Fan says...

ChannelX a poor post in your opinion but I notice you can't or won't answer the questions. Criticise all you like but please enter into the debate without just spouting your right wing BS.
ChannelX a poor post in your opinion but I notice you can't or won't answer the questions. Criticise all you like but please enter into the debate without just spouting your right wing BS. Spurs Fan
  • Score: 3

10:18am Wed 11 Jun 14

IfItsONtheNet says...

@ Channel X.
Do you see yourself as a guardian on the site?
You seem to attack those that dont agree with you rather than debate? I do not want to have an argument over this just curious over your motives.

Surely feeding people and the right to food is a basic human right.
I am not talking about michelin star food but basic food groups pasta, veg, fruit these things very little and has we can see above people rely on this service.
@ Channel X. Do you see yourself as a guardian on the site? You seem to attack those that dont agree with you rather than debate? I do not want to have an argument over this just curious over your motives. Surely feeding people and the right to food is a basic human right. I am not talking about michelin star food but basic food groups pasta, veg, fruit these things very little and has we can see above people rely on this service. IfItsONtheNet
  • Score: 4

10:24am Fri 13 Jun 14

IfItsONtheNet says...

Spurs Fan wrote:
ChannelX a poor post in your opinion but I notice you can't or won't answer the questions. Criticise all you like but please enter into the debate without just spouting your right wing BS.
Well the silence proves his point so well.
[quote][p][bold]Spurs Fan[/bold] wrote: ChannelX a poor post in your opinion but I notice you can't or won't answer the questions. Criticise all you like but please enter into the debate without just spouting your right wing BS.[/p][/quote]Well the silence proves his point so well. IfItsONtheNet
  • Score: 2

12:09am Sat 14 Jun 14

ukdaytona says...

A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Wildwestener wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
"6,000 Swindon residents sought help in 2013/14" how many of them were classed as obese?
What a thing to say. I truly hope if you ever need help, you meet someone just like yourself when asking for it and you realise just how onjectionable it is. And no, I've never used a foodbank, nor taken any benefits in my entire life but I'm very happy to contribute to them so others don't starve.
Those needing the food bank demonstrate their inability to manage a budget.
It would be helpful for these people to get food and clothes stamps rather than money, as we very well know how much of it is spent of cigs, booze, sky, and other non essential items....
I have worked for 30 years since leaving school, the last 4 months on 0 hour contracts. Unfortunately due to a family bereavement I have had to stop work to look after my children, one of which is disabled.

Until SBC, DWP and other agencies sort out the claims that were previously paid into my wifes bank - to which I have no access, I have today collected my first voucher to use the food bank. And just so your aware, those claims could take up to 8 weeks.

I am not happy at the fact I am turning to charities and handouts to feed my children but then I do not smoke, drink very occasionaly (christmas) and put all my time in to my children and ensuring they are coping with our loss.

If you have never needed help from anyone, lucky you but until you need help, I suggest that unless you know all the facts you keep your thoughts and comments to yourself.
[quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wildwestener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: "6,000 Swindon residents sought help in 2013/14" how many of them were classed as obese?[/p][/quote]What a thing to say. I truly hope if you ever need help, you meet someone just like yourself when asking for it and you realise just how onjectionable it is. And no, I've never used a foodbank, nor taken any benefits in my entire life but I'm very happy to contribute to them so others don't starve.[/p][/quote]Those needing the food bank demonstrate their inability to manage a budget. It would be helpful for these people to get food and clothes stamps rather than money, as we very well know how much of it is spent of cigs, booze, sky, and other non essential items....[/p][/quote]I have worked for 30 years since leaving school, the last 4 months on 0 hour contracts. Unfortunately due to a family bereavement I have had to stop work to look after my children, one of which is disabled. Until SBC, DWP and other agencies sort out the claims that were previously paid into my wifes bank - to which I have no access, I have today collected my first voucher to use the food bank. And just so your aware, those claims could take up to 8 weeks. I am not happy at the fact I am turning to charities and handouts to feed my children but then I do not smoke, drink very occasionaly (christmas) and put all my time in to my children and ensuring they are coping with our loss. If you have never needed help from anyone, lucky you but until you need help, I suggest that unless you know all the facts you keep your thoughts and comments to yourself. ukdaytona
  • Score: 3

9:41am Sat 14 Jun 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

ukdaytona wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
Wildwestener wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
"6,000 Swindon residents sought help in 2013/14" how many of them were classed as obese?
What a thing to say. I truly hope if you ever need help, you meet someone just like yourself when asking for it and you realise just how onjectionable it is. And no, I've never used a foodbank, nor taken any benefits in my entire life but I'm very happy to contribute to them so others don't starve.
Those needing the food bank demonstrate their inability to manage a budget.
It would be helpful for these people to get food and clothes stamps rather than money, as we very well know how much of it is spent of cigs, booze, sky, and other non essential items....
I have worked for 30 years since leaving school, the last 4 months on 0 hour contracts. Unfortunately due to a family bereavement I have had to stop work to look after my children, one of which is disabled.

Until SBC, DWP and other agencies sort out the claims that were previously paid into my wifes bank - to which I have no access, I have today collected my first voucher to use the food bank. And just so your aware, those claims could take up to 8 weeks.

I am not happy at the fact I am turning to charities and handouts to feed my children but then I do not smoke, drink very occasionaly (christmas) and put all my time in to my children and ensuring they are coping with our loss.

If you have never needed help from anyone, lucky you but until you need help, I suggest that unless you know all the facts you keep your thoughts and comments to yourself.
Such allot to deal with, hope you are getting the help you and your family need.
Bereavement causes so much hurt and the system is just not built to cope with it. I am sure that the number of abusers of this system are far smaller than we are led to believe.
Zero hours contracts have allot to answer for, hopefully there is about to be an amendment to that stating you do not have to stick to one company, which although not ideal is better than current arrangement.

Try not to take any of the comments on here personally many are driven by fear and ignorance never a good combination.
It sounds as though you are doing exactly what a responsible parent should be doing. Keep going.
[quote][p][bold]ukdaytona[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wildwestener[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: "6,000 Swindon residents sought help in 2013/14" how many of them were classed as obese?[/p][/quote]What a thing to say. I truly hope if you ever need help, you meet someone just like yourself when asking for it and you realise just how onjectionable it is. And no, I've never used a foodbank, nor taken any benefits in my entire life but I'm very happy to contribute to them so others don't starve.[/p][/quote]Those needing the food bank demonstrate their inability to manage a budget. It would be helpful for these people to get food and clothes stamps rather than money, as we very well know how much of it is spent of cigs, booze, sky, and other non essential items....[/p][/quote]I have worked for 30 years since leaving school, the last 4 months on 0 hour contracts. Unfortunately due to a family bereavement I have had to stop work to look after my children, one of which is disabled. Until SBC, DWP and other agencies sort out the claims that were previously paid into my wifes bank - to which I have no access, I have today collected my first voucher to use the food bank. And just so your aware, those claims could take up to 8 weeks. I am not happy at the fact I am turning to charities and handouts to feed my children but then I do not smoke, drink very occasionaly (christmas) and put all my time in to my children and ensuring they are coping with our loss. If you have never needed help from anyone, lucky you but until you need help, I suggest that unless you know all the facts you keep your thoughts and comments to yourself.[/p][/quote]Such allot to deal with, hope you are getting the help you and your family need. Bereavement causes so much hurt and the system is just not built to cope with it. I am sure that the number of abusers of this system are far smaller than we are led to believe. Zero hours contracts have allot to answer for, hopefully there is about to be an amendment to that stating you do not have to stick to one company, which although not ideal is better than current arrangement. Try not to take any of the comments on here personally many are driven by fear and ignorance never a good combination. It sounds as though you are doing exactly what a responsible parent should be doing. Keep going. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: 1

11:04am Sun 15 Jun 14

IfItsONtheNet says...

Foodbanks are vital, why we need them is a bigger cause for concern. To read stories like ukdaytona`s is scary and a reminder of how quickly a situation can deteriorate.
I hope tomorrow continues to be a better day for you and your family.
Foodbanks are vital, why we need them is a bigger cause for concern. To read stories like ukdaytona`s is scary and a reminder of how quickly a situation can deteriorate. I hope tomorrow continues to be a better day for you and your family. IfItsONtheNet
  • Score: 0

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