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Swindon Advertiser: Car park to be sold for redevelopment Car park to be sold for redevelopment

A TOWN centre eyesore is set to be demolished as part of plans to regenerate the Fleet Street area.

The dilapidated John Street Car Park, which has been falling into ruin for a number of years, will be sold for a minimal amount and then knocked down.

It is set to be brought by UK Commercial Property Estates Limited, which owns The Parade, and transformed to get better access to the shops, before being developed into commercial space.

In its place will go a ground-level car park in the short term before the land is redeveloped, with the council gaining 50 per cent of any profit made from any construction.

Councillor Garry Perkins (Con, Haydon Wick), the cabinet member in charge of town centre regeneration, believes it is the best way to deal with the structure which is no longer safe.

He said: “The John Street Car Park is well past its sell-by date so something needs to be done.

“The top levels are not safe and it has been a ground-level car park for a number of years.

“UKCPEL wants to purchase the site so it can get to the shops from the rear. They will demolish it and then put in a ground-level car park so those who use that end of town have somewhere to park.

“They will cover the cost of the demolition and the new car park.”

A report is set to go before cabinet next week recommending council officers open talks with the company for a small amount, known as a peppercorn figure.

The estimated cost of the demolition is believed to be in the region of £350,000 while it is estimated roughly £50,000 a year will be saved with the disposal of the car park, which currently has 117 spaces.

If the demolition has not been completed within 18 months of the handover, the council can take the car park back. The same applies if the site has not been commercially redeveloped within five years.

With plans for the development of the town centre progressing, Coun Perkins believes this is a positive move for Swindon given its proximity to the proposed new bus station.

He said: “We have invested plenty of money in the town centre but it is well known that a lot of work needs to be done at the Fleet Street end of town.

“This is an area in great need of investment and this is a positive move which will provide a boost to the businesses down there.”

The cabinet meeting is being held on Wednesday where the scheme is expected to be approved.

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7:47am Thu 19 Jun 14

Ollie Dognacky says...

“They will cover the cost of the demolition and the new car park.”


That's nice, but do we actually need the car park?
After all, we've just spent £15million on one just up the road 🚙🚗🚕🚚🚐
[quote]“They will cover the cost of the demolition and the new car park.” [/quote] That's nice, but do we actually need the car park? After all, we've just spent £15million on one just up the road 🚙🚗🚕🚚🚐 Ollie Dognacky
  • Score: -6

7:57am Thu 19 Jun 14

somwal25 says...

It is set to be brought by UK Commercial Property Estates Limited, which owns The Parade, and transformed to get better access to the shops, before being developed into commercial space.

commercial space is that another way of saying more empty offices/shops in the town center
It is set to be brought by UK Commercial Property Estates Limited, which owns The Parade, and transformed to get better access to the shops, before being developed into commercial space. commercial space is that another way of saying more empty offices/shops in the town center somwal25
  • Score: 8

8:14am Thu 19 Jun 14

house on the hill says...

somwal25 wrote:
It is set to be brought by UK Commercial Property Estates Limited, which owns The Parade, and transformed to get better access to the shops, before being developed into commercial space.

commercial space is that another way of saying more empty offices/shops in the town center
Another reason not to bother with the town centre if there weren't enough already!
[quote][p][bold]somwal25[/bold] wrote: It is set to be brought by UK Commercial Property Estates Limited, which owns The Parade, and transformed to get better access to the shops, before being developed into commercial space. commercial space is that another way of saying more empty offices/shops in the town center[/p][/quote]Another reason not to bother with the town centre if there weren't enough already! house on the hill
  • Score: -5

8:23am Thu 19 Jun 14

darrey80 says...

Why people bother complaining? An eyesore is being pulled down, one that literally stinks. Swindon needs rid of these 60s rotting buildings. Good riddance! At no cost. The car park is temporary, it's already a car park!
Why people bother complaining? An eyesore is being pulled down, one that literally stinks. Swindon needs rid of these 60s rotting buildings. Good riddance! At no cost. The car park is temporary, it's already a car park! darrey80
  • Score: 42

9:58am Thu 19 Jun 14

Swindon_AOK says...

Tiny step forward. When are we going to get news on Kimmerfields though, nothing seems to be happening.....
Tiny step forward. When are we going to get news on Kimmerfields though, nothing seems to be happening..... Swindon_AOK
  • Score: 1

12:20pm Thu 19 Jun 14

ManWithCar says...

house on the hill wrote:
somwal25 wrote:
It is set to be brought by UK Commercial Property Estates Limited, which owns The Parade, and transformed to get better access to the shops, before being developed into commercial space.

commercial space is that another way of saying more empty offices/shops in the town center
Another reason not to bother with the town centre if there weren't enough already!
So it's wrong to leave it, wrong to pull it down in your opinion.

Best for you to stay out of the town centre when everything is finished, stick to places like Greenbridge if you prefer going there.

I am heartily sick of people moaning and complaining - yes, it has taken time for things to happen but at least it is happening!
[quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]somwal25[/bold] wrote: It is set to be brought by UK Commercial Property Estates Limited, which owns The Parade, and transformed to get better access to the shops, before being developed into commercial space. commercial space is that another way of saying more empty offices/shops in the town center[/p][/quote]Another reason not to bother with the town centre if there weren't enough already![/p][/quote]So it's wrong to leave it, wrong to pull it down in your opinion. Best for you to stay out of the town centre when everything is finished, stick to places like Greenbridge if you prefer going there. I am heartily sick of people moaning and complaining - yes, it has taken time for things to happen but at least it is happening! ManWithCar
  • Score: 12

12:21pm Thu 19 Jun 14

ManWithCar says...

house on the hill wrote:
somwal25 wrote:
It is set to be brought by UK Commercial Property Estates Limited, which owns The Parade, and transformed to get better access to the shops, before being developed into commercial space.

commercial space is that another way of saying more empty offices/shops in the town center
Another reason not to bother with the town centre if there weren't enough already!
So it's wrong to leave it, wrong to pull it down in your opinion.

Best for you to stay out of the town centre when everything is finished, stick to places like Greenbridge if you prefer going there.

I am heartily sick of people moaning and complaining - yes, it has taken time for things to happen but at least it is happening!
[quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]somwal25[/bold] wrote: It is set to be brought by UK Commercial Property Estates Limited, which owns The Parade, and transformed to get better access to the shops, before being developed into commercial space. commercial space is that another way of saying more empty offices/shops in the town center[/p][/quote]Another reason not to bother with the town centre if there weren't enough already![/p][/quote]So it's wrong to leave it, wrong to pull it down in your opinion. Best for you to stay out of the town centre when everything is finished, stick to places like Greenbridge if you prefer going there. I am heartily sick of people moaning and complaining - yes, it has taken time for things to happen but at least it is happening! ManWithCar
  • Score: 10

1:59pm Thu 19 Jun 14

house on the hill says...

ManWithCar wrote:
house on the hill wrote:
somwal25 wrote:
It is set to be brought by UK Commercial Property Estates Limited, which owns The Parade, and transformed to get better access to the shops, before being developed into commercial space.

commercial space is that another way of saying more empty offices/shops in the town center
Another reason not to bother with the town centre if there weren't enough already!
So it's wrong to leave it, wrong to pull it down in your opinion.

Best for you to stay out of the town centre when everything is finished, stick to places like Greenbridge if you prefer going there.

I am heartily sick of people moaning and complaining - yes, it has taken time for things to happen but at least it is happening!
Dont worry I wouldnt go into the town centre if you paid me. Full of pound and charity shops and the sort of people who frequent them. Just a shame they couldn't have replaced it with something to try and bring it a bit upmarket, but then I guess its about supply and demand and clearly there isn't a demand for quality shops in the centre.
[quote][p][bold]ManWithCar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]somwal25[/bold] wrote: It is set to be brought by UK Commercial Property Estates Limited, which owns The Parade, and transformed to get better access to the shops, before being developed into commercial space. commercial space is that another way of saying more empty offices/shops in the town center[/p][/quote]Another reason not to bother with the town centre if there weren't enough already![/p][/quote]So it's wrong to leave it, wrong to pull it down in your opinion. Best for you to stay out of the town centre when everything is finished, stick to places like Greenbridge if you prefer going there. I am heartily sick of people moaning and complaining - yes, it has taken time for things to happen but at least it is happening![/p][/quote]Dont worry I wouldnt go into the town centre if you paid me. Full of pound and charity shops and the sort of people who frequent them. Just a shame they couldn't have replaced it with something to try and bring it a bit upmarket, but then I guess its about supply and demand and clearly there isn't a demand for quality shops in the centre. house on the hill
  • Score: 0

2:59pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Davey Gravey says...

What sort of people frequent charity shops then? Seems a snobby remark to make to me.
What sort of people frequent charity shops then? Seems a snobby remark to make to me. Davey Gravey
  • Score: -5

3:17pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Street1234 says...

Everyone are quick to complain ....... So what would suggest they replace the car-park with.?

I don't mind the odd trip into the pound shop, same as I don't mind popping to M&S or BHS ... so what does that say about me???

I agree shops choice is limited and town isn't inviting so please lets start hearing suggestions instead of complaining :)
Everyone are quick to complain ....... So what would suggest they replace the car-park with.? I don't mind the odd trip into the pound shop, same as I don't mind popping to M&S or BHS ... so what does that say about me??? I agree shops choice is limited and town isn't inviting so please lets start hearing suggestions instead of complaining :) Street1234
  • Score: 12

3:22pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Street1234 says...

oh also .. does that mean they are going to get rid of the smelly loo's that are next door?

Good luck to who ever opens that door. Please give me notice so I can be out of town coz that's going to smell so what
oh also .. does that mean they are going to get rid of the smelly loo's that are next door? Good luck to who ever opens that door. Please give me notice so I can be out of town coz that's going to smell so what Street1234
  • Score: 4

4:58pm Thu 19 Jun 14

LordCharles says...

Street1234 wrote:
Everyone are quick to complain ....... So what would suggest they replace the car-park with.?

I don't mind the odd trip into the pound shop, same as I don't mind popping to M&S or BHS ... so what does that say about me???

I agree shops choice is limited and town isn't inviting so please lets start hearing suggestions instead of complaining :)
Ikea?
[quote][p][bold]Street1234[/bold] wrote: Everyone are quick to complain ....... So what would suggest they replace the car-park with.? I don't mind the odd trip into the pound shop, same as I don't mind popping to M&S or BHS ... so what does that say about me??? I agree shops choice is limited and town isn't inviting so please lets start hearing suggestions instead of complaining :)[/p][/quote]Ikea? LordCharles
  • Score: 3

5:56pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Captain T says...

£10 says it won't be built on within 5 years....
£10 says it won't be built on within 5 years.... Captain T
  • Score: 3

7:53pm Thu 19 Jun 14

anotherimigrant says...

I smell a RAT here.

I wouldn’t trust Perkins any more than Blur or Hunt.

Sell a car park for a peppercorn amount.

Whose money is this fool wasting?

Surely he’s proven that he has no business acumen whatsoever and should be trusted to put the milk money out.

In 2009 Conservative Councillors under the leadership of Councillor Rod Bluh entered into a partnership with a local businessman, Rikki Hunt, to provide ‘free Wi-Fi’ for Swindon. At least £350,000 (ended up 800k) of taxpayer’s money was wasted on this scheme, none of which has been accounted for. The exclusive contract excluded other companies which would have liked to tender for the business, and when the company went bust delayed by several years’ investment in faster broadband in Swindon.

Conservative Councillor GARRY PERKINS, Mr Hunt and a council officer, ANYONE KNOW HIS NAME, (who has since left the employment of the council with a payoff) were Directors of the company but have not provided any accounts for the time the company
I smell a RAT here. I wouldn’t trust Perkins any more than Blur or Hunt. Sell a car park for a peppercorn amount. Whose money is this fool wasting? Surely he’s proven that he has no business acumen whatsoever and should be trusted to put the milk money out. In 2009 Conservative Councillors under the leadership of Councillor Rod Bluh entered into a partnership with a local businessman, Rikki Hunt, to provide ‘free Wi-Fi’ for Swindon. At least £350,000 (ended up 800k) of taxpayer’s money was wasted on this scheme, none of which has been accounted for. The exclusive contract excluded other companies which would have liked to tender for the business, and when the company went bust delayed by several years’ investment in faster broadband in Swindon. Conservative Councillor GARRY PERKINS, Mr Hunt and a council officer, ANYONE KNOW HIS NAME, (who has since left the employment of the council with a payoff) were Directors of the company but have not provided any accounts for the time the company anotherimigrant
  • Score: 4

7:59pm Thu 19 Jun 14

anotherimigrant says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
What sort of people frequent charity shops then? Seems a snobby remark to make to me.
C.H.A.VE,S foreigners, down and out,s silver surfers, smelly old ladies and men.

I even saw some council workers in one, when they clearly should have been at work.

Wouldnt be seen dead in one.

NOW John Lewis, I could happily die in.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: What sort of people frequent charity shops then? Seems a snobby remark to make to me.[/p][/quote]C.H.A.VE,S foreigners, down and out,s silver surfers, smelly old ladies and men. I even saw some council workers in one, when they clearly should have been at work. Wouldnt be seen dead in one. NOW John Lewis, I could happily die in. anotherimigrant
  • Score: -2

8:16pm Thu 19 Jun 14

daws says...

great car park that, had m 1st shag in there
great car park that, had m 1st shag in there daws
  • Score: 13

9:30am Fri 20 Jun 14

GrumpyLocal says...

anotherimigrant wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
What sort of people frequent charity shops then? Seems a snobby remark to make to me.
C.H.A.VE,S foreigners, down and out,s silver surfers, smelly old ladies and men.

I even saw some council workers in one, when they clearly should have been at work.

Wouldnt be seen dead in one.

NOW John Lewis, I could happily die in.
Please learn to spell chav if you are repeatedly going to use the terminology.
[quote][p][bold]anotherimigrant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: What sort of people frequent charity shops then? Seems a snobby remark to make to me.[/p][/quote]C.H.A.VE,S foreigners, down and out,s silver surfers, smelly old ladies and men. I even saw some council workers in one, when they clearly should have been at work. Wouldnt be seen dead in one. NOW John Lewis, I could happily die in.[/p][/quote]Please learn to spell chav if you are repeatedly going to use the terminology. GrumpyLocal
  • Score: 2

1:56pm Fri 20 Jun 14

Blackmalkin says...

The toilets on the Fleming Way side were useful...until they closed them to save money. Mind you, the sort of toilet that has blue lights to thwart intravenous drug users suggests that the usual clientele are not Waitrose shoppers.

And daws, I laughed out loud. Well done.
The toilets on the Fleming Way side were useful...until they closed them to save money. Mind you, the sort of toilet that has blue lights to thwart intravenous drug users suggests that the usual clientele are not Waitrose shoppers. And daws, I laughed out loud. Well done. Blackmalkin
  • Score: 0

3:14pm Fri 20 Jun 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Since when chaves an acronym? I remember hearing chav stood for council housed and violent but not sure if proven.

As for charity shops a better question would be what sort of person looks down on them???
As a collector of vinyl records I love having a look in charity shops surely it is also nice to know you are giving to a charity rather than big business?
Someone suggested an IKEA the amount of infrastructure required for what would be a small IKEA is probably not doable. Also with the bottom of town aiming to be more pedestrian friendly the two ideas would probably conflict.
When the Brunel rooms reopened one of the main complaints was the disturbance it would cause residents surely this site would be perfect for a club?
Its probably going to turn into a center for cash 4 gold, greggs, pound shop and mc donalds as nothing else seems to get built. As the regent circus development is coming on this could be an ideal time to look for different companies to come in rather than the tried and failed.

Contrary to opinion Swindon does welcome quality products there have been a number of boutique shops and specialist shops in business for years. I would suggest those that see John Lewis as the height of shopping experience really need to get out more its ASDA homewares with slightly better adjacencies all in white with big windows....People are easily fooled by nice packaging and a fresh coffee.
Since when chaves an acronym? I remember hearing chav stood for council housed and violent but not sure if proven. As for charity shops a better question would be what sort of person looks down on them??? As a collector of vinyl records I love having a look in charity shops surely it is also nice to know you are giving to a charity rather than big business? Someone suggested an IKEA the amount of infrastructure required for what would be a small IKEA is probably not doable. Also with the bottom of town aiming to be more pedestrian friendly the two ideas would probably conflict. When the Brunel rooms reopened one of the main complaints was the disturbance it would cause residents surely this site would be perfect for a club? Its probably going to turn into a center for cash 4 gold, greggs, pound shop and mc donalds as nothing else seems to get built. As the regent circus development is coming on this could be an ideal time to look for different companies to come in rather than the tried and failed. Contrary to opinion Swindon does welcome quality products there have been a number of boutique shops and specialist shops in business for years. I would suggest those that see John Lewis as the height of shopping experience really need to get out more its ASDA homewares with slightly better adjacencies all in white with big windows....People are easily fooled by nice packaging and a fresh coffee. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: 2

3:16pm Fri 20 Jun 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
What sort of people frequent charity shops then? Seems a snobby remark to make to me.
I would of gone with ignorant or foolish over snobby.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: What sort of people frequent charity shops then? Seems a snobby remark to make to me.[/p][/quote]I would of gone with ignorant or foolish over snobby. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: 1

10:40pm Thu 3 Jul 14

greenpacer says...

Make it a van park only.
Make it a van park only. greenpacer
  • Score: 0

12:25am Fri 4 Jul 14

greenpacer says...

We lost the other car park round there with the expansion of BHS. Turn it into a car park for high sided vans only.
We lost the other car park round there with the expansion of BHS. Turn it into a car park for high sided vans only. greenpacer
  • Score: 0

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