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£1.5m bid to get faster broadband

Swindon Advertiser: Peter Goodfellow Peter Goodfellow

A PROPOSAL is being put forward which could soon see most of Swindon finally having access to superfast broadband.

Swindon Council is looking at securing a grant of £1.5m, which it will match, as a way of securing rapid internet connectivity of higher than 30Mbps for 95 per cent of households.

Cabinet will look at authorising an application to the Government agency Broadband Delivery UK for the money. If this is approved then the council will seek a delivery partner that specialises in providing coverage to set up the scheme.

Superfast broadband is seen as key for moving Swindon forward economically, as it would give not only residents but also businesses much quicker access to the internet.

Although parts of Swindon already have good coverage, other areas such as the north of the town and the more rural areas of the borough do not.

Talks have taken place with BT but they have no plans to roll out coverage in these areas so the council believes this is the best way forward.

The move has been welcomed in North Swindon, where residents have been running a campaign to try to persuade BT to bring superfast broadband to the area.

Peter Goodfellow, 32, of Redhouse said: “I certainly welcome this move because superfast broadband is certainly something we need in north Swindon.

“There are a lot of young enterprises in this area so it is absolutely vital that we get this upgrade.

“It is just not possible to operate effectively as a business in 2014 without such a fast connection.

“It is the backbone of the country and we need this petition to send a strong message that we need it.

“One of the issues is we believe BT have been making the decision using incorrect data from the wrong exchanges.

“If they are not going to move forward, then it is very good this is being considered.”

BDUK will match the funding put forward by any local authority up to a maximum of £1.5m, which is what the council has asked for.

The total cost to the council is expected to be in the region of £1.8m.

In 2012 £250,000 was set aside as part of a scheme with BDUK, which would have included the whole of Wiltshire. However, because of the costs it was decided not to progress so most of the £250,000 remains in the pot.

If cabinet approves the scheme, an offer to tender a delivery partner will be put out who will also contribute financially.

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8:16am Mon 23 Jun 14

house on the hill says...

Is it April 1st already?
Is it April 1st already? house on the hill
  • Score: 5

8:47am Mon 23 Jun 14

Wildwestener says...

I thought the Council was skint?
I thought the Council was skint? Wildwestener
  • Score: 7

10:00am Mon 23 Jun 14

Ollie Dognacky says...

So, no pothole repairs then 🙊
.........👎-78
So, no pothole repairs then 🙊 .........👎-78 Ollie Dognacky
  • Score: -4

10:59am Mon 23 Jun 14

fuzzey says...

Not again??
Not again?? fuzzey
  • Score: 8

11:24am Mon 23 Jun 14

barlizard says...

.....so another 10 year wait for a council plan to be delivered!
.....so another 10 year wait for a council plan to be delivered! barlizard
  • Score: 6

1:12pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Is this a joke?
Inept council who have consistently failed with similar projects in the past how can you look for more money to waste?
Will it be different people responsible for this fraud...Sorry project.

At a guess the job will be done on the cheap if at all then fail at which time those responsible will blame weather etc....
Sigh.....
Is this a joke? Inept council who have consistently failed with similar projects in the past how can you look for more money to waste? Will it be different people responsible for this fraud...Sorry project. At a guess the job will be done on the cheap if at all then fail at which time those responsible will blame weather etc.... Sigh..... Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -3

1:18pm Mon 23 Jun 14

The Real Librarian says...

How's that Swindon WiFi scheme coming?
How's that Swindon WiFi scheme coming? The Real Librarian
  • Score: 12

1:55pm Mon 23 Jun 14

johndawson says...

well no sympathy for the all the people moaning as you had the choice to get rid of this council and vote for ukip but you got them again in power here and now they are just doing the same with the broadband deal like they did before and we lost a lot of money in Swindon.
well no sympathy for the all the people moaning as you had the choice to get rid of this council and vote for ukip but you got them again in power here and now they are just doing the same with the broadband deal like they did before and we lost a lot of money in Swindon. johndawson
  • Score: -1

2:00pm Mon 23 Jun 14

The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man says...

johndawson wrote:
well no sympathy for the all the people moaning as you had the choice to get rid of this council and vote for ukip but you got them again in power here and now they are just doing the same with the broadband deal like they did before and we lost a lot of money in Swindon.
I'd have thought they'd be far better off trying to do a deal with Virgin Media to expand their coverage.
[quote][p][bold]johndawson[/bold] wrote: well no sympathy for the all the people moaning as you had the choice to get rid of this council and vote for ukip but you got them again in power here and now they are just doing the same with the broadband deal like they did before and we lost a lot of money in Swindon.[/p][/quote]I'd have thought they'd be far better off trying to do a deal with Virgin Media to expand their coverage. The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man
  • Score: 6

2:06pm Mon 23 Jun 14

FLOGGITLAD says...

they have signed a contract with UK Broadband, at a cost over 5 years of around 1.5 million pounds already, so why do they now need another developer to go forward with this scheme, its your money folks and they are spending it big time...
they have signed a contract with UK Broadband, at a cost over 5 years of around 1.5 million pounds already, so why do they now need another developer to go forward with this scheme, its your money folks and they are spending it big time... FLOGGITLAD
  • Score: -1

2:33pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

johndawson wrote:
well no sympathy for the all the people moaning as you had the choice to get rid of this council and vote for ukip but you got them again in power here and now they are just doing the same with the broadband deal like they did before and we lost a lot of money in Swindon.
Ah yes because they have proven to be so good with money. Mr Farage himself with over £2million in misspent expenses.
A plan for the future of cutting education funding, increased taxes in the form of an additional flat rate which will cripple those who are already poor and of course scrapping all new building projects. UKIP also seem to have no interest in dealing with local issues or any communication with local people outside of their own staged events.
Of course you would of checked all of this before voting for UKIP rather than just being upset with what you view as unfair.....

Yes existing council are next to useless but UKIP are not the answer towns like Swindon need a local independent councilor that actually has an interest in the town rather than pushing a wider agenda and of course lining their own and pockets of associates.
[quote][p][bold]johndawson[/bold] wrote: well no sympathy for the all the people moaning as you had the choice to get rid of this council and vote for ukip but you got them again in power here and now they are just doing the same with the broadband deal like they did before and we lost a lot of money in Swindon.[/p][/quote]Ah yes because they have proven to be so good with money. Mr Farage himself with over £2million in misspent expenses. A plan for the future of cutting education funding, increased taxes in the form of an additional flat rate which will cripple those who are already poor and of course scrapping all new building projects. UKIP also seem to have no interest in dealing with local issues or any communication with local people outside of their own staged events. Of course you would of checked all of this before voting for UKIP rather than just being upset with what you view as unfair..... Yes existing council are next to useless but UKIP are not the answer towns like Swindon need a local independent councilor that actually has an interest in the town rather than pushing a wider agenda and of course lining their own and pockets of associates. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -4

2:48pm Mon 23 Jun 14

johndawson says...

ukip have not got their manifesto until oct or nov 2014 for the general election lets see what they have to say before we judge them.
ukip have not got their manifesto until oct or nov 2014 for the general election lets see what they have to say before we judge them. johndawson
  • Score: 8

3:06pm Mon 23 Jun 14

mrwoo says...

Is Dickie C.unt involved?
Is Dickie C.unt involved? mrwoo
  • Score: 1

3:17pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

johndawson wrote:
ukip have not got their manifesto until oct or nov 2014 for the general election lets see what they have to say before we judge them.
So what did you vote for?
[quote][p][bold]johndawson[/bold] wrote: ukip have not got their manifesto until oct or nov 2014 for the general election lets see what they have to say before we judge them.[/p][/quote]So what did you vote for? Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -3

6:57pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

johndawson wrote:
ukip have not got their manifesto until oct or nov 2014 for the general election lets see what they have to say before we judge them.
i wasnt being funny genuinely interested why you voted UKIP when as you say its too early to judge?
Liverpool university produce yet another deep thinker.
Was it the immigration thing that made you support UKIP or just the flasy ads?
[quote][p][bold]johndawson[/bold] wrote: ukip have not got their manifesto until oct or nov 2014 for the general election lets see what they have to say before we judge them.[/p][/quote]i wasnt being funny genuinely interested why you voted UKIP when as you say its too early to judge? Liverpool university produce yet another deep thinker. Was it the immigration thing that made you support UKIP or just the flasy ads? Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -3

8:00pm Mon 23 Jun 14

beach1e says...

no doubt this is just so that council workers can have the internet when they are at "work"..if this council had bothered to recoup £400000 from their wifi friend, they wouldnt need such a big grant...Swindon Sham Council..
no doubt this is just so that council workers can have the internet when they are at "work"..if this council had bothered to recoup £400000 from their wifi friend, they wouldnt need such a big grant...Swindon Sham Council.. beach1e
  • Score: 8

10:35pm Mon 23 Jun 14

FLOGGITLAD says...

I voted UKIP this around, because of their policies regarding the EU, immigration, and other issues, that the other three parties have no idea about.
I wonder who you voted for Badger
I voted UKIP this around, because of their policies regarding the EU, immigration, and other issues, that the other three parties have no idea about. I wonder who you voted for Badger FLOGGITLAD
  • Score: 3

12:43am Tue 24 Jun 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

FLOGGITLAD wrote:
I voted UKIP this around, because of their policies regarding the EU, immigration, and other issues, that the other three parties have no idea about.
I wonder who you voted for Badger
Not that it has any relevance but I went for an independent.
Thought I was pretty clear over my thoughts on that in an earlier comment in this thread.
I know not everyone reads the comments so dont mind repeating the point.

So you are in favor of a freeze in education spending and building?
I can sort of understand that if you dont have children but surely society as a whole would suffer?
[quote][p][bold]FLOGGITLAD[/bold] wrote: I voted UKIP this around, because of their policies regarding the EU, immigration, and other issues, that the other three parties have no idea about. I wonder who you voted for Badger[/p][/quote]Not that it has any relevance but I went for an independent. Thought I was pretty clear over my thoughts on that in an earlier comment in this thread. I know not everyone reads the comments so dont mind repeating the point. So you are in favor of a freeze in education spending and building? I can sort of understand that if you dont have children but surely society as a whole would suffer? Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -5

9:58am Tue 24 Jun 14

FLOGGITLAD says...

Im glad you went for an independent, I was the agent for such a man, who sadly despite his hard work wasn't elected, but the ones who sat on their backsides, got more votes..
as for education, if we hadn't let the world in to this country, then our resources would be enough to meet the demand. as it is, classes are now so full its disgusting.
and English is not the majority language any more in many places..
Im glad you went for an independent, I was the agent for such a man, who sadly despite his hard work wasn't elected, but the ones who sat on their backsides, got more votes.. as for education, if we hadn't let the world in to this country, then our resources would be enough to meet the demand. as it is, classes are now so full its disgusting. and English is not the majority language any more in many places.. FLOGGITLAD
  • Score: 3

11:34am Tue 24 Jun 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

FLOGGITLAD wrote:
Im glad you went for an independent, I was the agent for such a man, who sadly despite his hard work wasn't elected, but the ones who sat on their backsides, got more votes..
as for education, if we hadn't let the world in to this country, then our resources would be enough to meet the demand. as it is, classes are now so full its disgusting.
and English is not the majority language any more in many places..
I believe the main parties are all equally worthless they lie, cheat and steal on a massive scale.
My pet hate in politics is finger pointing, sadly UKIP have a standard answer for direct questions "But what about other parties activities?"
Surely just acting in a professional manner and sticking to policies made would differentiate them from the other parties but that is not what they do.

When you talk to UKIP members sweeping statements are made then when direct questions are asked it is again the same answer of wait till the manifesto......So until they commit to anything said I refuse to fall for the same tricks as the other parties pull.

As far as immigration I would suggest that there are at least as many home grown scroungers and wasters as imported ones.
Almost 50% of all benefits paid by government goes to pensions as a swing to this there are more UK citizens in Spain claiming benefits than all EU immigrants claiming in the UK combined.

So if we are to believe that UKIP will follow through on promises to clamp down on immigration we must also believe they will follow through on other proposals freeze education spending increased taxation (flat rate 33%) etc...The vast majority of people have looked no further into UKIP than the issue of immigration and the fact that the main parties simply dont care.

As Mr Farage has stated a number of times it is not a racist party this would be easily proved by making a public statement to expel any members making extremist views?
Looking at the electoral surveys UKIP voters are mostly over 65, white males this would make winning an overall majority across the country almost impossible.
There are a great deal of British born Asian families many of whom are second and third generation British which account for a massive section of the population they all have the right to vote.

Immigration must be discussed in an open and honest manner this is the only way to ensure racism does not happen. Britain has been a multi-cultural society for many, many years a cheap work force was fine when the economy was booming but the downturn has changed the opinions of many people. This has happened in many other countries through history and will happen again.
Big business has made decisions for the country for years and all of those decisions are based on solidifying their position and not the needs of the electorate.

When you say English isnt the spoken language in areas where do you mean?
Mr Farage has said Britain needs new allies in Europe the allies he has chosen are a deep concern to me.
Education is the key in this the more people investigate and research ALL political parties the better the country will be learn to ask the right questions and keep asking why until you do understand.

I will of course await the manifesto of all parties but if these proposals I have read come in and UKIP were to win in May next year I will most likely move myself and my business elsewhere.

Apologies for the long message but I have to go out for a while and tried to pre-empt some of the points raised.

On saying that I have spoken to a number of UKIP councilors and candidates who I have found to be polite and willing to discuss issues up to a point. None of these were Swindon based I had no response from any party members of any kind based in Swindon I sent the same questions to all.
I am not an important person just a voter.
[quote][p][bold]FLOGGITLAD[/bold] wrote: Im glad you went for an independent, I was the agent for such a man, who sadly despite his hard work wasn't elected, but the ones who sat on their backsides, got more votes.. as for education, if we hadn't let the world in to this country, then our resources would be enough to meet the demand. as it is, classes are now so full its disgusting. and English is not the majority language any more in many places..[/p][/quote]I believe the main parties are all equally worthless they lie, cheat and steal on a massive scale. My pet hate in politics is finger pointing, sadly UKIP have a standard answer for direct questions "But what about other parties activities?" Surely just acting in a professional manner and sticking to policies made would differentiate them from the other parties but that is not what they do. When you talk to UKIP members sweeping statements are made then when direct questions are asked it is again the same answer of wait till the manifesto......So until they commit to anything said I refuse to fall for the same tricks as the other parties pull. As far as immigration I would suggest that there are at least as many home grown scroungers and wasters as imported ones. Almost 50% of all benefits paid by government goes to pensions as a swing to this there are more UK citizens in Spain claiming benefits than all EU immigrants claiming in the UK combined. So if we are to believe that UKIP will follow through on promises to clamp down on immigration we must also believe they will follow through on other proposals freeze education spending increased taxation (flat rate 33%) etc...The vast majority of people have looked no further into UKIP than the issue of immigration and the fact that the main parties simply dont care. As Mr Farage has stated a number of times it is not a racist party this would be easily proved by making a public statement to expel any members making extremist views? Looking at the electoral surveys UKIP voters are mostly over 65, white males this would make winning an overall majority across the country almost impossible. There are a great deal of British born Asian families many of whom are second and third generation British which account for a massive section of the population they all have the right to vote. Immigration must be discussed in an open and honest manner this is the only way to ensure racism does not happen. Britain has been a multi-cultural society for many, many years a cheap work force was fine when the economy was booming but the downturn has changed the opinions of many people. This has happened in many other countries through history and will happen again. Big business has made decisions for the country for years and all of those decisions are based on solidifying their position and not the needs of the electorate. When you say English isnt the spoken language in areas where do you mean? Mr Farage has said Britain needs new allies in Europe the allies he has chosen are a deep concern to me. Education is the key in this the more people investigate and research ALL political parties the better the country will be learn to ask the right questions and keep asking why until you do understand. I will of course await the manifesto of all parties but if these proposals I have read come in and UKIP were to win in May next year I will most likely move myself and my business elsewhere. Apologies for the long message but I have to go out for a while and tried to pre-empt some of the points raised. On saying that I have spoken to a number of UKIP councilors and candidates who I have found to be polite and willing to discuss issues up to a point. None of these were Swindon based I had no response from any party members of any kind based in Swindon I sent the same questions to all. I am not an important person just a voter. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -4

11:41am Tue 24 Jun 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

FLOGGITLAD wrote:
Im glad you went for an independent, I was the agent for such a man, who sadly despite his hard work wasn't elected, but the ones who sat on their backsides, got more votes..
as for education, if we hadn't let the world in to this country, then our resources would be enough to meet the demand. as it is, classes are now so full its disgusting.
and English is not the majority language any more in many places..
Sorry forgot this but, we cannot say if etc anymore issues must be corrected.
Is freezing education ok by you?
[quote][p][bold]FLOGGITLAD[/bold] wrote: Im glad you went for an independent, I was the agent for such a man, who sadly despite his hard work wasn't elected, but the ones who sat on their backsides, got more votes.. as for education, if we hadn't let the world in to this country, then our resources would be enough to meet the demand. as it is, classes are now so full its disgusting. and English is not the majority language any more in many places..[/p][/quote]Sorry forgot this but, we cannot say if etc anymore issues must be corrected. Is freezing education ok by you? Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -3

1:20pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Alex English says...

On the point about English being spoken as a minority language, it's actually the case in many UK schools now:


Data now shows that close to one million pupils who attend schools in England do not have English as their first language at home.

There are 97 schools where children with English as their first language are in such a minority that they make up less than one in twenty pupils.

The statistics released by the Department of Education shows that in 1997, when Tony Blair first came to power, there were 866 schools in England where more than 50% of the pupils had English as a second language.

Last year that figure had ballooned to 1,638 schools, almost double the 1997 level.

It means that on the latest figures there are 1,363 primary schools, 224 secondary schools and 51 special schools where more than half the pupils come from a non-English speaking background.

One in six youngsters in primary schools - 547,000 - do not have English as their first language.

A recent study found that Punjabi was the most frequently spoken language among pupils who did not have English as a first language.

After that the most popular languages were Urdu, Bengali, Gujarati, Somali, Polish, Arabic, Portuguese, Turkish and Tamil.


Generally speaking:


Figures from the 2011 national census show London having a minority white British population.

More than 50 per cent of people living in Leicester, Luton and Slough are either foreign or from an ethnic minority.

Birmingham is expected to have a similar make-up by 2020.

London has already been shown to have a white British population of only 45 per cent. The breakdown also shows that those who call themselves white British amount to 45 per cent of the population of Leicester, 45 per cent of the population of Luton and only just over a third, 35 per cent, of the people of Slough.


Can you imagine a scenario where Baghdad is 51% white non-Asian people? Could you imagine major capital cities in Africa being made up of 51% white people?

Of course, it's all now far too late for Ukip - or anyone else - to do anything about it.
On the point about English being spoken as a minority language, it's actually the case in many UK schools now: [quote] Data now shows that close to one million pupils who attend schools in England do not have English as their first language at home. There are 97 schools where children with English as their first language are in such a minority that they make up less than one in twenty pupils. The statistics released by the Department of Education shows that in 1997, when Tony Blair first came to power, there were 866 schools in England where more than 50% of the pupils had English as a second language. Last year that figure had ballooned to 1,638 schools, almost double the 1997 level. It means that on the latest figures there are 1,363 primary schools, 224 secondary schools and 51 special schools where more than half the pupils come from a non-English speaking background. One in six youngsters in primary schools - 547,000 - do not have English as their first language. A recent study found that Punjabi was the most frequently spoken language among pupils who did not have English as a first language. After that the most popular languages were Urdu, Bengali, Gujarati, Somali, Polish, Arabic, Portuguese, Turkish and Tamil. [/quote] Generally speaking: [quote] Figures from the 2011 national census show London having a minority white British population. More than 50 per cent of people living in Leicester, Luton and Slough are either foreign or from an ethnic minority. Birmingham is expected to have a similar make-up by 2020. London has already been shown to have a white British population of only 45 per cent. The breakdown also shows that those who call themselves white British amount to 45 per cent of the population of Leicester, 45 per cent of the population of Luton and only just over a third, 35 per cent, of the people of Slough. [/quote] Can you imagine a scenario where Baghdad is 51% white non-Asian people? Could you imagine major capital cities in Africa being made up of 51% white people? Of course, it's all now far too late for Ukip - or anyone else - to do anything about it. Alex English
  • Score: 1

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