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Council claims green waste pilot scheme is a ‘success’

Swindon Advertiser: Neil Heavens and Derique Montaut, councillors for Liden and Eldene, with garden waste believed to have been fly-tipped outside Liden School Neil Heavens and Derique Montaut, councillors for Liden and Eldene, with garden waste believed to have been fly-tipped outside Liden School

THE green waste scheme is being described as ‘cautiously successful’ by council chiefs after more bins had to be ordered to meet demand.

From March, residents had to start paying an annual charge of £40 for a bin or bag to have their green waste taken away.

Despite initial concerns, almost 11,000 residents have now signed up meaning the council have now had to order an extra 2,200 bins to make sure they do not run out. In total the council are looking for around 16,000 people to sign up before March next year to make the scheme financially viable, meaning they are on target.

However, concerns are still being raised over the issue of fly-tipping, with green waste being dumped around the town. The council has said there has been no significant increase in reports of fly-tipping, but they have started to log incidents.

The cabinet member in charge of waste collection, Coun Brian Ford (Con, Wroughton and Wichelstowe), said: “At the moment people are taking it up at a rate of between 200 and 300 per week, which is very good.

“I obviously do not expect this rate to continue and at some point it will drop off. At this stage I would say the scheme has been cautiously successful. We have had 11,000 sign up and it only started in March. I have just signed off on getting in more bins from our suppliers.”

The council has decided to crack down on those who fly-tip and it has emerged it is considering prosecuting individuals in two cases linked with dumping green waste.

“I have asked the officers to take a tough line with those who are breaking the law,” said Coun Ford.

“There are thousands of people who are paying the fee and living within the law so I do not see why others should not.

“People who break the law when it comes to fly-tipping will be prosecuted and we are looking at two possible cases.

“Officers have told me though there is no significant increase in fly-tipping but we’re monitoring the situation. There was no need to directly monitor green waste dumping before but I have asked for that now.”

The Labour group have dismissed claims the scheme can be considered a success and said green waste collections should remain free.

Coun Fay Howard (Liden, Eldene and Park South) said: “Queues to get in to the waste and recycling centre are at an all-time high and the fly-tipping of green waste has dramatically increased, leading to unsightly areas across the whole town. With this in mind, how can we say the new green waste service is a success?

“It is also not taking in to account those residents on low incomes who maintain their gardens but cannot afford to pay £40 for a collection service. The only way to reduce fly-tipping, keep queues manageable at the waste and recycling centre and ensure all residents have access to the same service, is to have a free green waste collection service.”

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7:06am Thu 10 Jul 14

nobody says...

What a complete joke, try opening your eyes.
What a complete joke, try opening your eyes. nobody
  • Score: -1

7:33am Thu 10 Jul 14

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

If they needed 16,000 households and only 11,000 have signed up, then it can in no way be considered a success. They needed 16,000 to sign up for this growing season, not next unless they have written off the savings for this year. Looks to me like they have moved the goal posts to suit the failed policy.

Couple that with the poor handling of the bins being delivered, so the implementation wasn't a success either.

My observations of fly tipping of green waste are that it is on the increase despite council claims, so that is another increase in the costs to the council. Their claims can only be speculative as they previously haven't been monitoring it. I find that odd as cleaning up fly tipped waste is a cost to the council that they should have been accounting for!

I wonder if they are monitoring how much green waste is going into the black wheelie bins as most people I know put it in there.
If they needed 16,000 households and only 11,000 have signed up, then it can in no way be considered a success. They needed 16,000 to sign up for this growing season, not next unless they have written off the savings for this year. Looks to me like they have moved the goal posts to suit the failed policy. Couple that with the poor handling of the bins being delivered, so the implementation wasn't a success either. My observations of fly tipping of green waste are that it is on the increase despite council claims, so that is another increase in the costs to the council. Their claims can only be speculative as they previously haven't been monitoring it. I find that odd as cleaning up fly tipped waste is a cost to the council that they should have been accounting for! I wonder if they are monitoring how much green waste is going into the black wheelie bins as most people I know put it in there. LordAshOfTheBrake
  • Score: 5

8:28am Thu 10 Jul 14

swindondad says...

OK Coun Fay Howard (Liden, Eldene and Park South) please list what other service you will cut or charge you will make to balance the budget, your expense allowance perhaps!
OK Coun Fay Howard (Liden, Eldene and Park South) please list what other service you will cut or charge you will make to balance the budget, your expense allowance perhaps! swindondad
  • Score: -2

9:13am Thu 10 Jul 14

Davey Gravey says...

It is a blatant lie to say this service cut has been a success. Nobody will believe it either.
It is a blatant lie to say this service cut has been a success. Nobody will believe it either. Davey Gravey
  • Score: -3

9:19am Thu 10 Jul 14

The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man says...

Just to point out that the Labour group have it wrong. This was never a "free" service, it was paid for out of our council tax.

What's happened is that our money, rather than being used for bin collections etc that benefit everyone, has been diverted to the social care system that benefits a few.
Just to point out that the Labour group have it wrong. This was never a "free" service, it was paid for out of our council tax. What's happened is that our money, rather than being used for bin collections etc that benefit everyone, has been diverted to the social care system that benefits a few. The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man
  • Score: 14

9:25am Thu 10 Jul 14

Sandor Clegane says...

So the facts:

11,000 have signed up in the first four months.

200 to 300 people are signing up per week.

A further 5,000 people need to sign up in the next eight months in order for the take-up target to be met.

On that basis, 'cautiously successful’ seems a reasonable assessment.

Unfortunately, some people will claim the council has failed at everything no matter what happens. Should the council hit their 16,000 target by next March it'll be interesting to say what those who don't accept reality will have to say about it and what their next attempted smear tactic will be.

By all means lambast the council when they get things wrong, but don't try and argue against the actual facts, it just makes you look like the boy who cried wolf. Again and again and again...

As for the local Labour group suggesting the green waste collections should remain 'free', they've never been 'free' - we have always paid for them. The only difference now is that those who do not use the green waste service only contribute a small amount towards something they don't use and those who do use it pay a small additional surcharge towards a service they choose to use.

How on earth is that unfair?
So the facts: 11,000 have signed up in the first four months. 200 to 300 people are signing up per week. A further 5,000 people need to sign up in the next eight months in order for the take-up target to be met. On that basis, 'cautiously successful’ seems a reasonable assessment. Unfortunately, some people will claim the council has failed at everything no matter what happens. Should the council hit their 16,000 target by next March it'll be interesting to say what those who don't accept reality will have to say about it and what their next attempted smear tactic will be. By all means lambast the council when they get things wrong, but don't try and argue against the actual facts, it just makes you look like the boy who cried wolf. Again and again and again... As for the local Labour group suggesting the green waste collections should remain 'free', they've never been 'free' - we have always paid for them. The only difference now is that those who do not use the green waste service only contribute a small amount towards something they don't use and those who do use it pay a small additional surcharge towards a service they choose to use. How on earth is that unfair? Sandor Clegane
  • Score: 4

10:05am Thu 10 Jul 14

Davey Gravey says...

After making progress with recycling in recent years in Swindon this cut in service has now seen an increase in landfill waste as people are putting green waste out in their black bins.
That is a failure as things have gone backwards. How can it be described as anything but that?
After making progress with recycling in recent years in Swindon this cut in service has now seen an increase in landfill waste as people are putting green waste out in their black bins. That is a failure as things have gone backwards. How can it be described as anything but that? Davey Gravey
  • Score: -2

11:35am Thu 10 Jul 14

Filgee says...

It's definitely not a free service, and to add insult we now have a full 'green bin' that will not be emptied today because of strike action. Breach of contract comes to mind. Worse, of course, is that general waste in North Swindon may not be collected for 4 weeks. Hot weather = rotting waste: is that what we pay council tax for?
It's definitely not a free service, and to add insult we now have a full 'green bin' that will not be emptied today because of strike action. Breach of contract comes to mind. Worse, of course, is that general waste in North Swindon may not be collected for 4 weeks. Hot weather = rotting waste: is that what we pay council tax for? Filgee
  • Score: 10

12:27pm Thu 10 Jul 14

MrAngry says...

Agree with Filgree. I have paid extra for green bin which won't be collected because of the strike. Breach of contract.
Agree with Filgree. I have paid extra for green bin which won't be collected because of the strike. Breach of contract. MrAngry
  • Score: 10

12:57pm Thu 10 Jul 14

Davey Gravey says...

The Tory council are scared to tell the truth about the cuts in funding as its their party in government doing it. The haste in which they are trying to put right the bankers balls ups(still getting their huge bonuses whilst people slate refuse collectors etc on a pittance by the way) means public services are going backwards.
The Tory council are scared to tell the truth about the cuts in funding as its their party in government doing it. The haste in which they are trying to put right the bankers balls ups(still getting their huge bonuses whilst people slate refuse collectors etc on a pittance by the way) means public services are going backwards. Davey Gravey
  • Score: -8

1:46pm Thu 10 Jul 14

Sandor Clegane says...

Unemployment down, employment at its highest since records began. The economy growing at a slow but steady pace. More money spent on welfare and public services than at any point in history.

And all this while still trying to repair the decade worth of damage to the economy brought on this country under Labour.

No wonder the Left are resorting to plain lies.
Unemployment down, employment at its highest since records began. The economy growing at a slow but steady pace. More money spent on welfare and public services than at any point in history. And all this while still trying to repair the decade worth of damage to the economy brought on this country under Labour. No wonder the Left are resorting to plain lies. Sandor Clegane
  • Score: 7

1:56pm Thu 10 Jul 14

Davey Gravey says...

The banned troll with his new log in fails to mention that Part time workers are used by the Tories to claim more are in work despite those in those jobs being skint still and struggling, immigration through the roof, the population never bigger. Tory spin. Who's lying?
The banned troll with his new log in fails to mention that Part time workers are used by the Tories to claim more are in work despite those in those jobs being skint still and struggling, immigration through the roof, the population never bigger. Tory spin. Who's lying? Davey Gravey
  • Score: -3

8:31pm Thu 10 Jul 14

bryony700 says...

This is just away of increasing revenue from the council tax
Another stealth tax, this should be divided over 10 months and included with the council tax
This is just away of increasing revenue from the council tax Another stealth tax, this should be divided over 10 months and included with the council tax bryony700
  • Score: 0

11:15am Fri 11 Jul 14

Sandor Clegane says...

bryony700 wrote:
This is just away of increasing revenue from the council tax
Another stealth tax, this should be divided over 10 months and included with the council tax
Why should people who don't wish to use the green waste service pay for those who do wish to use it?

I'm very pleased my council tax bill hasn't gone up and I'm not subsidising yet more of other people's expenses.
[quote][p][bold]bryony700[/bold] wrote: This is just away of increasing revenue from the council tax Another stealth tax, this should be divided over 10 months and included with the council tax[/p][/quote]Why should people who don't wish to use the green waste service pay for those who do wish to use it? I'm very pleased my council tax bill hasn't gone up and I'm not subsidising yet more of other people's expenses. Sandor Clegane
  • Score: -3
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