Site for autistic people's care home to be moved after protests

Residents are fighting against plans to put a care home business in the middle of a quiet street in Okebourne Park, Liden. Pictured are Couns Neil Heavens, left, and Derique Montaut

Residents are fighting against plans to put a care home business in the middle of a quiet street in Okebourne Park, Liden. Pictured are Couns Neil Heavens, left, and Derique Montaut

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HOSTILITY to plans for an autistic people’s care home in Liden has led to the owners of the property searching for a better location.

Plans for a residential care home for six adults with autism in Okebourne Park were submitted last week, and residents gave a number of objections on the basis of the home being transformed into a business.

After attempting to open discussions with neighbours over the weekend, Autism Care Wiltshire Ltd will now sell the property and look for a different site.

Stuart Hook, of the autism firm, said the company did not want to introduce their service users into a negative environment.

“A leaflet has been circulated with numerous inaccuracies including the nature of care we provide. For the avoidance of doubt, Autism Care Wiltshire provides care for people with autism and learning disabilities and not people with mental health issues or substance abuse.

“Much has been made by objectors to the covenants in the deeds of the Okebourne Park properties and calls for enforcement action.

“The covenant most quoted is the one that says you should not operate a business from the premises.

“The primary purpose of the property would be as a residential home for the vulnerable adults who live there.

“This is supported by the planning category which specifically states that up to six people requiring care or support can live in a property together and it is a residential category property requiring only residential planning permissions.”

Mr Hook said therefore they did not believe use of the home for autistic adults breached the covenant and there were “at least 13 registered businesses at Okebourne Park addresses”.

“We strongly believe that people with autism have a right to live in the local community around their families in the same way as all other residents, without discrimination and with the same level of support from democratically elected members. It has been warming to receive high levels of support from Swindon residents for the care we provide in response to the local protests.”

Mr Hook said that in view of the protests and since the needs of the autistic adults came first, the firm would look elsewhere for accommodation.

Keith Stubbs, chairman of the newly formed Okebourne Park Action Committee, said discussions should have been made prior to the application being submitted, as residents had to rush to find out information.

“The single issue has been that this house, in this cul-de-sac, is not in the right location in terms of space and vehicle access,” he said.

“All these houses have covenants attached to them which excludes their use for business purposes.”

Dick Wilkinson, vice-chairman of the committee, said: “I would have asked for a public meeting before the application was put in so that everybody could be clear on the plans.

“There needs to be scrutiny of the way in which applications for domestic dwellings being turned into businesses can be slipped through without there being any capacity for people to do anything about it. The whole thing was a bit rushed.”

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6:22am Wed 30 Jul 14

messyits says...

Such a shame when business folk in breach of the covenant object when they have breached the covenant--I will write to the Council and name and shame them.
Such a shame when business folk in breach of the covenant object when they have breached the covenant--I will write to the Council and name and shame them. messyits
  • Score: 68

7:17am Wed 30 Jul 14

birdieman says...

Good luck to Autism care in looking for a new location...in truth it's probably a blessing in disguise that your residents will not be living in such a horrible estate with its nauseating residents.
Good luck to Autism care in looking for a new location...in truth it's probably a blessing in disguise that your residents will not be living in such a horrible estate with its nauseating residents. birdieman
  • Score: 360

7:19am Wed 30 Jul 14

Al Smith says...

Off to the Bigots Arms for a quick celebratory pint then Derique "Disability Discrimination" Montaut? Perhaps you could invite Nick Martin, he can rant about disabled people having sex and you can rant about disabled people living in the community.
Off to the Bigots Arms for a quick celebratory pint then Derique "Disability Discrimination" Montaut? Perhaps you could invite Nick Martin, he can rant about disabled people having sex and you can rant about disabled people living in the community. Al Smith
  • Score: 198

7:35am Wed 30 Jul 14

EastleazeRed says...

Keith Stubbs , hang your head in shame with the rest of the bunch of morons on your pathetic committee . Al Smith has it spot on Disability discrimination from the not on my doorstep brigade , lets hope you never have to put with the inconvenience of a disabled person in your life .
Keith Stubbs , hang your head in shame with the rest of the bunch of morons on your pathetic committee . Al Smith has it spot on Disability discrimination from the not on my doorstep brigade , lets hope you never have to put with the inconvenience of a disabled person in your life . EastleazeRed
  • Score: 252

8:09am Wed 30 Jul 14

Les Colyer says...

HYPOCRITES.
This stinks of bigotry & NIMBY-ism.
My daughter lives at the current Autism Care home at another location in Swindon & I can honestly say with hand on heart that the local community there have been welcoming & accepting of these vulnerable young people.
Swindon we know we are all better than the 'Okies' that got themselves in a tizzy over this.
I hope that Tanya & Stuart can find a better location for their second care home soon because there are many families in the town on the edge of crisis caring for their now adult autistic children.
This new addition would have given them hope to live their lives as a parent & share the responsibilities of care with a great organisation.
HYPOCRITES. This stinks of bigotry & NIMBY-ism. My daughter lives at the current Autism Care home at another location in Swindon & I can honestly say with hand on heart that the local community there have been welcoming & accepting of these vulnerable young people. Swindon we know we are all better than the 'Okies' that got themselves in a tizzy over this. I hope that Tanya & Stuart can find a better location for their second care home soon because there are many families in the town on the edge of crisis caring for their now adult autistic children. This new addition would have given them hope to live their lives as a parent & share the responsibilities of care with a great organisation. Les Colyer
  • Score: 222

8:16am Wed 30 Jul 14

messyits says...

Well I hope those 2 councillors now do their duty and report all the business residents an collect the outstanding tax-further the 2 councillors should be voted out and never hold any office again.
Well I hope those 2 councillors now do their duty and report all the business residents an collect the outstanding tax-further the 2 councillors should be voted out and never hold any office again. messyits
  • Score: 141

8:26am Wed 30 Jul 14

house on the hill says...

If we ever needed confirmation that deep down most people are selfish, narrow minded, two faced bigots, there you have it. Sadly it isn't just this lot, there are endless stories on here proving again and again we are a double standards society. And to have Councillors involved is disgusting, but not surprising from that arrogant, self serving bunch. A sad day.
If we ever needed confirmation that deep down most people are selfish, narrow minded, two faced bigots, there you have it. Sadly it isn't just this lot, there are endless stories on here proving again and again we are a double standards society. And to have Councillors involved is disgusting, but not surprising from that arrogant, self serving bunch. A sad day. house on the hill
  • Score: 159

8:38am Wed 30 Jul 14

Davey Gravey says...

I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.
I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying. Davey Gravey
  • Score: -347

8:57am Wed 30 Jul 14

Les Colyer says...

I agree Gravey Davey I wouldn't want an Okebourne Park resident or a bug eyed labour councillor living next door to me either .,.. They sound like a right rum lot
I agree Gravey Davey I wouldn't want an Okebourne Park resident or a bug eyed labour councillor living next door to me either .,.. They sound like a right rum lot Les Colyer
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9:34am Wed 30 Jul 14

Oldtownmum says...

To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours
To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours Oldtownmum
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9:55am Wed 30 Jul 14

EastleazeRed says...

Oldtownmum wrote:
To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours
Well lets hope you get looked after in your old age oldtownmum , because I wouldn't want a bigoted grumpy old woman living in a care home anywhere near me.
[quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours[/p][/quote]Well lets hope you get looked after in your old age oldtownmum , because I wouldn't want a bigoted grumpy old woman living in a care home anywhere near me. EastleazeRed
  • Score: 263

10:12am Wed 30 Jul 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Those with position in Swindon do indeed seem to have a dislike or certainly a disregard for the disabled.
Appalling attitude from local residents hate committee surely the production of leaflets with slanderous statements is a crime? Then again its an easy target looking to be accepted into a community,

No doubt the res-mob will be celebrating their victory over 6 young autistic people letting them know that the disabled are not welcome in the area.
You should all be ashamed but you wont be........Some serious illusions of adequacy here who do they think they are. The whole estate seems to of supported this action.
Those with position in Swindon do indeed seem to have a dislike or certainly a disregard for the disabled. Appalling attitude from local residents hate committee surely the production of leaflets with slanderous statements is a crime? Then again its an easy target looking to be accepted into a community, No doubt the res-mob will be celebrating their victory over 6 young autistic people letting them know that the disabled are not welcome in the area. You should all be ashamed but you wont be........Some serious illusions of adequacy here who do they think they are. The whole estate seems to of supported this action. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: 97

10:19am Wed 30 Jul 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Oldtownmum wrote:
To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours
To be fair I wouldnt of expected any other comment from you.
A caring community yes but not anywhere near you?

If this was sited further out of town it van be impossible for some to receive visits from family and friends making for a lonely existence.
I know you probably didnt think of that but then again it doesnt effect you so why would you.
[quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours[/p][/quote]To be fair I wouldnt of expected any other comment from you. A caring community yes but not anywhere near you? If this was sited further out of town it van be impossible for some to receive visits from family and friends making for a lonely existence. I know you probably didnt think of that but then again it doesnt effect you so why would you. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: 115

10:38am Wed 30 Jul 14

Oldtownmum says...

EastleazeRed wrote:
Oldtownmum wrote:
To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours
Well lets hope you get looked after in your old age oldtownmum , because I wouldn't want a bigoted grumpy old woman living in a care home anywhere near me.
It's not bigoted, it's realism. A small quiet estate is not the place for Autistic adults. These adults are living away from their families for a reason - they are very difficult to manage in a normal home environment. You can criticise me all you like, but I have experience of similar situations, you don't.
[quote][p][bold]EastleazeRed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours[/p][/quote]Well lets hope you get looked after in your old age oldtownmum , because I wouldn't want a bigoted grumpy old woman living in a care home anywhere near me.[/p][/quote]It's not bigoted, it's realism. A small quiet estate is not the place for Autistic adults. These adults are living away from their families for a reason - they are very difficult to manage in a normal home environment. You can criticise me all you like, but I have experience of similar situations, you don't. Oldtownmum
  • Score: -184

10:49am Wed 30 Jul 14

mumma77 says...

My 8yr son is autistic and also my husband, thank god we don't live in your area.To be blessed with a person in your family with a disability is the most heart warming and rewarding thing you could ever experience.
There are more and more children being diagnosed with autism every day, these children grow into adults with autism, get educated and don't fear something just because you don't understand it.
My 8yr son is autistic and also my husband, thank god we don't live in your area.To be blessed with a person in your family with a disability is the most heart warming and rewarding thing you could ever experience. There are more and more children being diagnosed with autism every day, these children grow into adults with autism, get educated and don't fear something just because you don't understand it. mumma77
  • Score: 210

10:55am Wed 30 Jul 14

EastleazeRed says...

Oldtownmum wrote:
EastleazeRed wrote:
Oldtownmum wrote:
To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours
Well lets hope you get looked after in your old age oldtownmum , because I wouldn't want a bigoted grumpy old woman living in a care home anywhere near me.
It's not bigoted, it's realism. A small quiet estate is not the place for Autistic adults. These adults are living away from their families for a reason - they are very difficult to manage in a normal home environment. You can criticise me all you like, but I have experience of similar situations, you don't.
I have first hand knowledge of autism and have done for the last 23 years watching my nephew grow up ! I know how difficult they can be and all the pain that goes with it, so don't assume I know nothing about it . Luckily he has been in respite for the last few years in a beautiful place in Gloucestershire , and looked after by wonderful committed staff . And as for Liden being a small quite estate , I'd rather bump into an autistic person than some of the other unsavory characters walking around liden estate .
[quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EastleazeRed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours[/p][/quote]Well lets hope you get looked after in your old age oldtownmum , because I wouldn't want a bigoted grumpy old woman living in a care home anywhere near me.[/p][/quote]It's not bigoted, it's realism. A small quiet estate is not the place for Autistic adults. These adults are living away from their families for a reason - they are very difficult to manage in a normal home environment. You can criticise me all you like, but I have experience of similar situations, you don't.[/p][/quote]I have first hand knowledge of autism and have done for the last 23 years watching my nephew grow up ! I know how difficult they can be and all the pain that goes with it, so don't assume I know nothing about it . Luckily he has been in respite for the last few years in a beautiful place in Gloucestershire , and looked after by wonderful committed staff . And as for Liden being a small quite estate , I'd rather bump into an autistic person than some of the other unsavory characters walking around liden estate . EastleazeRed
  • Score: 156

11:01am Wed 30 Jul 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

mumma77 wrote:
My 8yr son is autistic and also my husband, thank god we don't live in your area.To be blessed with a person in your family with a disability is the most heart warming and rewarding thing you could ever experience.
There are more and more children being diagnosed with autism every day, these children grow into adults with autism, get educated and don't fear something just because you don't understand it.
Great comment some lives will be enriched by the experience sadly others look at it as an excuse to claim additional payments and as you see as above some see it as an inconvenience.
There are different levels of autism so no the example of they are loud and violent is not true in all cases its a shame that gaps in knowledge become ignorant opinion.
We are in danger of becoming an uncaring society when we should be pulling together more and more people seem to be all about the "ME"....
[quote][p][bold]mumma77[/bold] wrote: My 8yr son is autistic and also my husband, thank god we don't live in your area.To be blessed with a person in your family with a disability is the most heart warming and rewarding thing you could ever experience. There are more and more children being diagnosed with autism every day, these children grow into adults with autism, get educated and don't fear something just because you don't understand it.[/p][/quote]Great comment some lives will be enriched by the experience sadly others look at it as an excuse to claim additional payments and as you see as above some see it as an inconvenience. There are different levels of autism so no the example of they are loud and violent is not true in all cases its a shame that gaps in knowledge become ignorant opinion. We are in danger of becoming an uncaring society when we should be pulling together more and more people seem to be all about the "ME".... Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: 68

11:20am Wed 30 Jul 14

Monty73 says...

Its about money at the end of the day. Would an autism care home situated in the middle of your street will devalue your property ? or put off potential buyers.
Its about money at the end of the day. Would an autism care home situated in the middle of your street will devalue your property ? or put off potential buyers. Monty73
  • Score: -32

11:39am Wed 30 Jul 14

You slug says...

What a horrible, miserable looking bunch of NIMBYs. I’d say those who were going to live there have just had a lucky escape, imagine living amongst that lot.
As the father of a 20 year old autistic daughter currently living in supported living in Covingham with the White Horse Care Trust I can’t praise these organisations enough. The idea is not to put people who need help in big institutions like we used to do but to try and make their lives as normal as possible…..just like those as fortunate as ourselves. The neighbours where my daughter lives were a bit apprehensive at first but very quickly realised that they had nothing to worry about because believe it or not, people with autism are normal people which is more than can be said for a couple of posters on here.
Good luck to Autism Care and I hope you find somewhere much more suitable.

Oldtownmum you have no idea how offensive you are, I hope if ever you need help they stick you in a field where you can’t disturb anyone else and feed you with a catapult!!
What a horrible, miserable looking bunch of NIMBYs. I’d say those who were going to live there have just had a lucky escape, imagine living amongst that lot. As the father of a 20 year old autistic daughter currently living in supported living in Covingham with the White Horse Care Trust I can’t praise these organisations enough. The idea is not to put people who need help in big institutions like we used to do but to try and make their lives as normal as possible…..just like those as fortunate as ourselves. The neighbours where my daughter lives were a bit apprehensive at first but very quickly realised that they had nothing to worry about because believe it or not, people with autism are normal people which is more than can be said for a couple of posters on here. Good luck to Autism Care and I hope you find somewhere much more suitable. Oldtownmum you have no idea how offensive you are, I hope if ever you need help they stick you in a field where you can’t disturb anyone else and feed you with a catapult!! You slug
  • Score: 159

11:40am Wed 30 Jul 14

mumma77 says...

At the end of the day in the street that i live i have neighbours (adults and children) with all types of disabilties, there are more important things in life than money and that is quality of life. And life if for living.....
At the end of the day in the street that i live i have neighbours (adults and children) with all types of disabilties, there are more important things in life than money and that is quality of life. And life if for living..... mumma77
  • Score: 65

12:02pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Oldtownmum says...

You slug wrote:
What a horrible, miserable looking bunch of NIMBYs. I’d say those who were going to live there have just had a lucky escape, imagine living amongst that lot.
As the father of a 20 year old autistic daughter currently living in supported living in Covingham with the White Horse Care Trust I can’t praise these organisations enough. The idea is not to put people who need help in big institutions like we used to do but to try and make their lives as normal as possible…..just like those as fortunate as ourselves. The neighbours where my daughter lives were a bit apprehensive at first but very quickly realised that they had nothing to worry about because believe it or not, people with autism are normal people which is more than can be said for a couple of posters on here.
Good luck to Autism Care and I hope you find somewhere much more suitable.

Oldtownmum you have no idea how offensive you are, I hope if ever you need help they stick you in a field where you can’t disturb anyone else and feed you with a catapult!!
I've not been offensive, I've been truthful. I've not said autistic people don't deserve to attempt to live a normal life, I've said that on a housing estate is not the right place. It would be very interesting to see how many of you would willingly have the house next door to you occupied by adults with Learning disabilities. Hmmm, though not.
[quote][p][bold]You slug[/bold] wrote: What a horrible, miserable looking bunch of NIMBYs. I’d say those who were going to live there have just had a lucky escape, imagine living amongst that lot. As the father of a 20 year old autistic daughter currently living in supported living in Covingham with the White Horse Care Trust I can’t praise these organisations enough. The idea is not to put people who need help in big institutions like we used to do but to try and make their lives as normal as possible…..just like those as fortunate as ourselves. The neighbours where my daughter lives were a bit apprehensive at first but very quickly realised that they had nothing to worry about because believe it or not, people with autism are normal people which is more than can be said for a couple of posters on here. Good luck to Autism Care and I hope you find somewhere much more suitable. Oldtownmum you have no idea how offensive you are, I hope if ever you need help they stick you in a field where you can’t disturb anyone else and feed you with a catapult!![/p][/quote]I've not been offensive, I've been truthful. I've not said autistic people don't deserve to attempt to live a normal life, I've said that on a housing estate is not the right place. It would be very interesting to see how many of you would willingly have the house next door to you occupied by adults with Learning disabilities. Hmmm, though not. Oldtownmum
  • Score: -164

12:03pm Wed 30 Jul 14

South Stand says...

Oldtownmum wrote:
EastleazeRed wrote:
Oldtownmum wrote:
To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours
Well lets hope you get looked after in your old age oldtownmum , because I wouldn't want a bigoted grumpy old woman living in a care home anywhere near me.
It's not bigoted, it's realism. A small quiet estate is not the place for Autistic adults. These adults are living away from their families for a reason - they are very difficult to manage in a normal home environment. You can criticise me all you like, but I have experience of similar situations, you don't.
So where would you put them then, Siberia?
[quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EastleazeRed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours[/p][/quote]Well lets hope you get looked after in your old age oldtownmum , because I wouldn't want a bigoted grumpy old woman living in a care home anywhere near me.[/p][/quote]It's not bigoted, it's realism. A small quiet estate is not the place for Autistic adults. These adults are living away from their families for a reason - they are very difficult to manage in a normal home environment. You can criticise me all you like, but I have experience of similar situations, you don't.[/p][/quote]So where would you put them then, Siberia? South Stand
  • Score: 46

12:15pm Wed 30 Jul 14

house on the hill says...

Badgersgetabadname wrote:
mumma77 wrote:
My 8yr son is autistic and also my husband, thank god we don't live in your area.To be blessed with a person in your family with a disability is the most heart warming and rewarding thing you could ever experience.
There are more and more children being diagnosed with autism every day, these children grow into adults with autism, get educated and don't fear something just because you don't understand it.
Great comment some lives will be enriched by the experience sadly others look at it as an excuse to claim additional payments and as you see as above some see it as an inconvenience.
There are different levels of autism so no the example of they are loud and violent is not true in all cases its a shame that gaps in knowledge become ignorant opinion.
We are in danger of becoming an uncaring society when we should be pulling together more and more people seem to be all about the "ME"....
I think the danger has long past and we are an uncaring, double standards society already. How many genuinely caring, open minded people do you know who would go out of their way to help or give up things for others if there wasn't something in it for them. I bet the number would be very small. We are now a "disposable" society in every aspect including other people! Sad but true.
[quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mumma77[/bold] wrote: My 8yr son is autistic and also my husband, thank god we don't live in your area.To be blessed with a person in your family with a disability is the most heart warming and rewarding thing you could ever experience. There are more and more children being diagnosed with autism every day, these children grow into adults with autism, get educated and don't fear something just because you don't understand it.[/p][/quote]Great comment some lives will be enriched by the experience sadly others look at it as an excuse to claim additional payments and as you see as above some see it as an inconvenience. There are different levels of autism so no the example of they are loud and violent is not true in all cases its a shame that gaps in knowledge become ignorant opinion. We are in danger of becoming an uncaring society when we should be pulling together more and more people seem to be all about the "ME"....[/p][/quote]I think the danger has long past and we are an uncaring, double standards society already. How many genuinely caring, open minded people do you know who would go out of their way to help or give up things for others if there wasn't something in it for them. I bet the number would be very small. We are now a "disposable" society in every aspect including other people! Sad but true. house on the hill
  • Score: 21

12:20pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Oldtownmum says...

South Stand wrote:
Oldtownmum wrote:
EastleazeRed wrote:
Oldtownmum wrote:
To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours
Well lets hope you get looked after in your old age oldtownmum , because I wouldn't want a bigoted grumpy old woman living in a care home anywhere near me.
It's not bigoted, it's realism. A small quiet estate is not the place for Autistic adults. These adults are living away from their families for a reason - they are very difficult to manage in a normal home environment. You can criticise me all you like, but I have experience of similar situations, you don't.
So where would you put them then, Siberia?
The care home at Brinkworth is in an ideal setting; quiet, away from hustle and bustle and not too difficult to get to. Same goes for a large property on outskirts of Purton, Wanborough etc. I'm sure the Autistic people themselves wouldn't want to be on a noisy estate with cars, people, dogs etc.... For the last time, I'm not saying banish them, I'm saying a housing estate isn't the right place and it's not fair on current residents or the people themselves
[quote][p][bold]South Stand[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EastleazeRed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours[/p][/quote]Well lets hope you get looked after in your old age oldtownmum , because I wouldn't want a bigoted grumpy old woman living in a care home anywhere near me.[/p][/quote]It's not bigoted, it's realism. A small quiet estate is not the place for Autistic adults. These adults are living away from their families for a reason - they are very difficult to manage in a normal home environment. You can criticise me all you like, but I have experience of similar situations, you don't.[/p][/quote]So where would you put them then, Siberia?[/p][/quote]The care home at Brinkworth is in an ideal setting; quiet, away from hustle and bustle and not too difficult to get to. Same goes for a large property on outskirts of Purton, Wanborough etc. I'm sure the Autistic people themselves wouldn't want to be on a noisy estate with cars, people, dogs etc.... For the last time, I'm not saying banish them, I'm saying a housing estate isn't the right place and it's not fair on current residents or the people themselves Oldtownmum
  • Score: -93

12:52pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Alaughaminute says...

Well how low can some people go, shame on you and I hope they end up with the neighbors from hell.
Well how low can some people go, shame on you and I hope they end up with the neighbors from hell. Alaughaminute
  • Score: 57

1:00pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Chrisg46 says...

Old town would be a good place actually, wouldnt you say OldTownMum? Nice views, fairly quiet as long as you are aware from one of the main roads.
And yes you are being offensive - you remind me of that horrible woman Katie Hopkins.
Do i have experience of Autism? Yes, my nephew.
Would i be happy with a shelter such as this next to my house? Absolutely, and would help them move in. If Nimbys came to my door protesting about this, they would be required to vacate my property shortly afterwards.
Just because you are narrow minded and hateful, dont tar everyone else with your brush. Get back under your bridge, troll.
Old town would be a good place actually, wouldnt you say OldTownMum? Nice views, fairly quiet as long as you are aware from one of the main roads. And yes you are being offensive - you remind me of that horrible woman Katie Hopkins. Do i have experience of Autism? Yes, my nephew. Would i be happy with a shelter such as this next to my house? Absolutely, and would help them move in. If Nimbys came to my door protesting about this, they would be required to vacate my property shortly afterwards. Just because you are narrow minded and hateful, dont tar everyone else with your brush. Get back under your bridge, troll. Chrisg46
  • Score: 100

1:12pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Oldtownmum says...

Chrisg46 wrote:
Old town would be a good place actually, wouldnt you say OldTownMum? Nice views, fairly quiet as long as you are aware from one of the main roads.
And yes you are being offensive - you remind me of that horrible woman Katie Hopkins.
Do i have experience of Autism? Yes, my nephew.
Would i be happy with a shelter such as this next to my house? Absolutely, and would help them move in. If Nimbys came to my door protesting about this, they would be required to vacate my property shortly afterwards.
Just because you are narrow minded and hateful, dont tar everyone else with your brush. Get back under your bridge, troll.
I've agreed with everything Katie Hopkins has ever said. She speaks sense and represents decent hard working members of society, so that's not an insult. It's very easy to say that you'd welcome a shelter next door when you know it won't happen. In reality, I'd give you a week before you were complaining. You keep polishing your halo though if it makes you feel good :-(
[quote][p][bold]Chrisg46[/bold] wrote: Old town would be a good place actually, wouldnt you say OldTownMum? Nice views, fairly quiet as long as you are aware from one of the main roads. And yes you are being offensive - you remind me of that horrible woman Katie Hopkins. Do i have experience of Autism? Yes, my nephew. Would i be happy with a shelter such as this next to my house? Absolutely, and would help them move in. If Nimbys came to my door protesting about this, they would be required to vacate my property shortly afterwards. Just because you are narrow minded and hateful, dont tar everyone else with your brush. Get back under your bridge, troll.[/p][/quote]I've agreed with everything Katie Hopkins has ever said. She speaks sense and represents decent hard working members of society, so that's not an insult. It's very easy to say that you'd welcome a shelter next door when you know it won't happen. In reality, I'd give you a week before you were complaining. You keep polishing your halo though if it makes you feel good :-( Oldtownmum
  • Score: -124

2:04pm Wed 30 Jul 14

johntomjo says...

**** the lot of you against this ,I hope you all die alone in and old peoples home ,neglected and abused ....I would allow them next door
**** the lot of you against this ,I hope you all die alone in and old peoples home ,neglected and abused ....I would allow them next door johntomjo
  • Score: 36

2:11pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Swindon resident says...

Oldtownmum wrote:
Chrisg46 wrote:
Old town would be a good place actually, wouldnt you say OldTownMum? Nice views, fairly quiet as long as you are aware from one of the main roads.
And yes you are being offensive - you remind me of that horrible woman Katie Hopkins.
Do i have experience of Autism? Yes, my nephew.
Would i be happy with a shelter such as this next to my house? Absolutely, and would help them move in. If Nimbys came to my door protesting about this, they would be required to vacate my property shortly afterwards.
Just because you are narrow minded and hateful, dont tar everyone else with your brush. Get back under your bridge, troll.
I've agreed with everything Katie Hopkins has ever said. She speaks sense and represents decent hard working members of society, so that's not an insult. It's very easy to say that you'd welcome a shelter next door when you know it won't happen. In reality, I'd give you a week before you were complaining. You keep polishing your halo though if it makes you feel good :-(
Oldtownmum,the fact you have actually said you agree with what the awful Katie
Hopkins says speaks volumes! If you have knowledge
of autism then you would know that young adults with this would not be living within the community if their condition was severe.Awful, awful
views!
[quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chrisg46[/bold] wrote: Old town would be a good place actually, wouldnt you say OldTownMum? Nice views, fairly quiet as long as you are aware from one of the main roads. And yes you are being offensive - you remind me of that horrible woman Katie Hopkins. Do i have experience of Autism? Yes, my nephew. Would i be happy with a shelter such as this next to my house? Absolutely, and would help them move in. If Nimbys came to my door protesting about this, they would be required to vacate my property shortly afterwards. Just because you are narrow minded and hateful, dont tar everyone else with your brush. Get back under your bridge, troll.[/p][/quote]I've agreed with everything Katie Hopkins has ever said. She speaks sense and represents decent hard working members of society, so that's not an insult. It's very easy to say that you'd welcome a shelter next door when you know it won't happen. In reality, I'd give you a week before you were complaining. You keep polishing your halo though if it makes you feel good :-([/p][/quote]Oldtownmum,the fact you have actually said you agree with what the awful Katie Hopkins says speaks volumes! If you have knowledge of autism then you would know that young adults with this would not be living within the community if their condition was severe.Awful, awful views! Swindon resident
  • Score: 83

2:23pm Wed 30 Jul 14

mumma77 says...

People keep talking about claiming benifits and being uncaring, when you see the hours not just myself but other's people put in to looking after autisic people including my son and husband maybe you would undstand you devote your life to them. I live on a busy main road, and my son attends main stream school,as YES he has severe austim we also have two dogs so all these people saying put them in a quite place they will like it it is a very silly comment. You may not be able to tell that my son has austim,and you could already have some living next door to you with it.
Yes they will like there own space but if they do not experience our world they will never lead a full life of there own, please remember that on day you may have a child or grandchild with this and how will you feel if the shoe was on the other foot.
People keep talking about claiming benifits and being uncaring, when you see the hours not just myself but other's people put in to looking after autisic people including my son and husband maybe you would undstand you devote your life to them. I live on a busy main road, and my son attends main stream school,as YES he has severe austim we also have two dogs so all these people saying put them in a quite place they will like it it is a very silly comment. You may not be able to tell that my son has austim,and you could already have some living next door to you with it. Yes they will like there own space but if they do not experience our world they will never lead a full life of there own, please remember that on day you may have a child or grandchild with this and how will you feel if the shoe was on the other foot. mumma77
  • Score: 66

2:58pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Cat_cat_cat says...

What a shocking read! I just cannot believe in this day and age, such discrimination and bigotry exists!

NIMBY's moaning about potential noise & extra traffic. Are we to presumed that not one residents resident in Okebourne Park has ever had family round to visit them, thereby creating extra traffic in the area?
Does no one in Okebourne Park throw a birthday party or summer BBQ, thereby generating a bit of noise from their garden?

What a boring silent world they live in!
What a shocking read! I just cannot believe in this day and age, such discrimination and bigotry exists! NIMBY's moaning about potential noise & extra traffic. Are we to presumed that not one residents resident in Okebourne Park has ever had family round to visit them, thereby creating extra traffic in the area? Does no one in Okebourne Park throw a birthday party or summer BBQ, thereby generating a bit of noise from their garden? What a boring silent world they live in! Cat_cat_cat
  • Score: 45

3:03pm Wed 30 Jul 14

johntomjo says...

anyone fancy a drive down there perhaps we could all park there and go for a strtoll
anyone fancy a drive down there perhaps we could all park there and go for a strtoll johntomjo
  • Score: 41

3:04pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Sandor Clegane says...

johntomjo wrote:
**** the lot of you against this ,I hope you all die alone in and old peoples home ,neglected and abused ....I would allow them next door
That's the contribution from the more 'caring' side of the debate.

Hmm.
[quote][p][bold]johntomjo[/bold] wrote: **** the lot of you against this ,I hope you all die alone in and old peoples home ,neglected and abused ....I would allow them next door[/p][/quote]That's the contribution from the more 'caring' side of the debate. Hmm. Sandor Clegane
  • Score: -11

3:15pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Chrisg46 says...

Oldtownmum wrote:
Chrisg46 wrote:
Old town would be a good place actually, wouldnt you say OldTownMum? Nice views, fairly quiet as long as you are aware from one of the main roads.
And yes you are being offensive - you remind me of that horrible woman Katie Hopkins.
Do i have experience of Autism? Yes, my nephew.
Would i be happy with a shelter such as this next to my house? Absolutely, and would help them move in. If Nimbys came to my door protesting about this, they would be required to vacate my property shortly afterwards.
Just because you are narrow minded and hateful, dont tar everyone else with your brush. Get back under your bridge, troll.
I've agreed with everything Katie Hopkins has ever said. She speaks sense and represents decent hard working members of society, so that's not an insult. It's very easy to say that you'd welcome a shelter next door when you know it won't happen. In reality, I'd give you a week before you were complaining. You keep polishing your halo though if it makes you feel good :-(
She most certainly does not represent normal hard working members of society, as can be told by the widespread reactions against her badly thought out little rants. If you identify with her, as others have said, that pretty much says all it needs to about you.
And dont you dare tell me what i can put up with one way or another. You dont know me, or my background.
[quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chrisg46[/bold] wrote: Old town would be a good place actually, wouldnt you say OldTownMum? Nice views, fairly quiet as long as you are aware from one of the main roads. And yes you are being offensive - you remind me of that horrible woman Katie Hopkins. Do i have experience of Autism? Yes, my nephew. Would i be happy with a shelter such as this next to my house? Absolutely, and would help them move in. If Nimbys came to my door protesting about this, they would be required to vacate my property shortly afterwards. Just because you are narrow minded and hateful, dont tar everyone else with your brush. Get back under your bridge, troll.[/p][/quote]I've agreed with everything Katie Hopkins has ever said. She speaks sense and represents decent hard working members of society, so that's not an insult. It's very easy to say that you'd welcome a shelter next door when you know it won't happen. In reality, I'd give you a week before you were complaining. You keep polishing your halo though if it makes you feel good :-([/p][/quote]She most certainly does not represent normal hard working members of society, as can be told by the widespread reactions against her badly thought out little rants. If you identify with her, as others have said, that pretty much says all it needs to about you. And dont you dare tell me what i can put up with one way or another. You dont know me, or my background. Chrisg46
  • Score: 44

3:30pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Oldtownmum wrote:
Chrisg46 wrote:
Old town would be a good place actually, wouldnt you say OldTownMum? Nice views, fairly quiet as long as you are aware from one of the main roads.
And yes you are being offensive - you remind me of that horrible woman Katie Hopkins.
Do i have experience of Autism? Yes, my nephew.
Would i be happy with a shelter such as this next to my house? Absolutely, and would help them move in. If Nimbys came to my door protesting about this, they would be required to vacate my property shortly afterwards.
Just because you are narrow minded and hateful, dont tar everyone else with your brush. Get back under your bridge, troll.
I've agreed with everything Katie Hopkins has ever said. She speaks sense and represents decent hard working members of society, so that's not an insult. It's very easy to say that you'd welcome a shelter next door when you know it won't happen. In reality, I'd give you a week before you were complaining. You keep polishing your halo though if it makes you feel good :-(
You are very shouty and aggressive in everything you post and you seem to delight in poking at people less fortunate than you.

I can appreciate you constantly stating "Its my opinion and I am entitled" means you dont have to look into any other aspects allowing you to continue in the blissful ignorance as you display so well.
It may be just that you dont understand and the gaping holes in your knowledge is the reason for it...In which case you deserve the pity.

People that dont agree with you attention seeking moronic posts are labelled a troll you remind me of someone that used to post on here allot but I imagine you watch a different channel.

KH represents working class people? Where do you get that from? EVERY job she had she has failed at apart from finding a rich man to gain children from allowing her to do nothing. There is no difference between doing nothing claiming benefits and her taking money from the rich men she has managed to ensnare.
There is no difference between her and the awful Dee on benefits street same attitude just in designer clothes.
Oh look you can put a silk hat on a pig.......still a pig though.

Just to help you out with the English language people take offense it is not given think you mixed up that point a little.
[quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chrisg46[/bold] wrote: Old town would be a good place actually, wouldnt you say OldTownMum? Nice views, fairly quiet as long as you are aware from one of the main roads. And yes you are being offensive - you remind me of that horrible woman Katie Hopkins. Do i have experience of Autism? Yes, my nephew. Would i be happy with a shelter such as this next to my house? Absolutely, and would help them move in. If Nimbys came to my door protesting about this, they would be required to vacate my property shortly afterwards. Just because you are narrow minded and hateful, dont tar everyone else with your brush. Get back under your bridge, troll.[/p][/quote]I've agreed with everything Katie Hopkins has ever said. She speaks sense and represents decent hard working members of society, so that's not an insult. It's very easy to say that you'd welcome a shelter next door when you know it won't happen. In reality, I'd give you a week before you were complaining. You keep polishing your halo though if it makes you feel good :-([/p][/quote]You are very shouty and aggressive in everything you post and you seem to delight in poking at people less fortunate than you. I can appreciate you constantly stating "Its my opinion and I am entitled" means you dont have to look into any other aspects allowing you to continue in the blissful ignorance as you display so well. It may be just that you dont understand and the gaping holes in your knowledge is the reason for it...In which case you deserve the pity. People that dont agree with you attention seeking moronic posts are labelled a troll you remind me of someone that used to post on here allot but I imagine you watch a different channel. KH represents working class people? Where do you get that from? EVERY job she had she has failed at apart from finding a rich man to gain children from allowing her to do nothing. There is no difference between doing nothing claiming benefits and her taking money from the rich men she has managed to ensnare. There is no difference between her and the awful Dee on benefits street same attitude just in designer clothes. Oh look you can put a silk hat on a pig.......still a pig though. Just to help you out with the English language people take offense it is not given think you mixed up that point a little. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: 36

3:41pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Sandor Clegane wrote:
johntomjo wrote:
**** the lot of you against this ,I hope you all die alone in and old peoples home ,neglected and abused ....I would allow them next door
That's the contribution from the more 'caring' side of the debate.

Hmm.
You are oldtownmum aret you?
If not you two should get together.
[quote][p][bold]Sandor Clegane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johntomjo[/bold] wrote: **** the lot of you against this ,I hope you all die alone in and old peoples home ,neglected and abused ....I would allow them next door[/p][/quote]That's the contribution from the more 'caring' side of the debate. Hmm.[/p][/quote]You are oldtownmum aret you? If not you two should get together. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: 3

3:47pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Davey Gravey says...

johntomjo wrote:
**** the lot of you against this ,I hope you all die alone in and old peoples home ,neglected and abused ....I would allow them next door
Nice guy. Compassion personified.
[quote][p][bold]johntomjo[/bold] wrote: **** the lot of you against this ,I hope you all die alone in and old peoples home ,neglected and abused ....I would allow them next door[/p][/quote]Nice guy. Compassion personified. Davey Gravey
  • Score: 0

3:53pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

johntomjo wrote:
anyone fancy a drive down there perhaps we could all park there and go for a strtoll
Now that is a cracking idea.
Its resident parking so a slow drive around the estate is well within the law as the residents are so worried about health and safety the horn will be needed to ensure no persons are run over.

#OkebourneParkagains
tthedisabled
[quote][p][bold]johntomjo[/bold] wrote: anyone fancy a drive down there perhaps we could all park there and go for a strtoll[/p][/quote]Now that is a cracking idea. Its resident parking so a slow drive around the estate is well within the law as the residents are so worried about health and safety the horn will be needed to ensure no persons are run over. #OkebourneParkagains tthedisabled Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: 22

4:30pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Amberflame says...

Oldtownmum wrote:
To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours
Wow, truly shocked by your comments. You want them to live in more rural areas? Why, so they can be with the rest of the animals??

I am totally dumbfounded.

BTW, your description of noisy, sometimes violent people, could apply to anyone in society!
[quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours[/p][/quote]Wow, truly shocked by your comments. You want them to live in more rural areas? Why, so they can be with the rest of the animals?? I am totally dumbfounded. BTW, your description of noisy, sometimes violent people, could apply to anyone in society! Amberflame
  • Score: 49

4:31pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Amberflame says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.
When I first read this I thought you were being sarcastic and were referring to the residents

But you are serious aren't you!
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.[/p][/quote]When I first read this I thought you were being sarcastic and were referring to the residents But you are serious aren't you! Amberflame
  • Score: 16

4:51pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Amberflame wrote:
Oldtownmum wrote:
To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours
Wow, truly shocked by your comments. You want them to live in more rural areas? Why, so they can be with the rest of the animals??

I am totally dumbfounded.

BTW, your description of noisy, sometimes violent people, could apply to anyone in society!
Very well said
[quote][p][bold]Amberflame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours[/p][/quote]Wow, truly shocked by your comments. You want them to live in more rural areas? Why, so they can be with the rest of the animals?? I am totally dumbfounded. BTW, your description of noisy, sometimes violent people, could apply to anyone in society![/p][/quote]Very well said Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: 14

5:03pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Nickinacknoo says...

birdieman wrote:
Good luck to Autism care in looking for a new location...in truth it's probably a blessing in disguise that your residents will not be living in such a horrible estate with its nauseating residents.
Snobby bastards think they are better than everyone else, well god forbid they should have a child with special needs, autism isnt class specific, ****.

PROUD MUM OF TWO KIDS ON THE SPECTRUM
[quote][p][bold]birdieman[/bold] wrote: Good luck to Autism care in looking for a new location...in truth it's probably a blessing in disguise that your residents will not be living in such a horrible estate with its nauseating residents.[/p][/quote]Snobby bastards think they are better than everyone else, well god forbid they should have a child with special needs, autism isnt class specific, ****. PROUD MUM OF TWO KIDS ON THE SPECTRUM Nickinacknoo
  • Score: 69

5:17pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

It would seem there are a number of businesses based in and next to Oakbourne Park so I can only assume the residents must be concerned as to additional traffic and noise in the area.
As the residents committee has brought so much attention to the area and how anti businesses operating in a residential area they are HMRC should investigate all of these addresses to ensure they are operating within the standards demanded by the residents.
All vehicles correctly registered and monies declared.......

I wonder if they now regret not sitting down for a meeting did they really think they would receive sympathy from the public?
I think the large grass areas in the estate are public land so maybe a fete or fund raiser in aid of autism would be an olive branch.
It would seem there are a number of businesses based in and next to Oakbourne Park so I can only assume the residents must be concerned as to additional traffic and noise in the area. As the residents committee has brought so much attention to the area and how anti businesses operating in a residential area they are HMRC should investigate all of these addresses to ensure they are operating within the standards demanded by the residents. All vehicles correctly registered and monies declared....... I wonder if they now regret not sitting down for a meeting did they really think they would receive sympathy from the public? I think the large grass areas in the estate are public land so maybe a fete or fund raiser in aid of autism would be an olive branch. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: 33

5:18pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Spurs Fan says...

Wow I am always amazed by the level of bigotry and ignorance of some of the posters on the Adver site. However, it is also good to see some spirited people speaking up in defense of the less fortunate in our society. As the father of a 21 year old autistic young man I can honestly say a street like this would have made a great home for a small autistic group. Autism is a spectrum and many would be able/capable to live happy fulfilling lives in such a community. There would be some on the autistic spectrum that such a community home would not suit, but I trust that social workers, health professionals and the like would not place them in an unsuitable setting. As an aside my wife and I have decided to care for our son at home for as long as we are able. I would love my boy to be able to live semi independently in the community, but my wife is always concerned about people's attitudes to the disabled. As time goes on, and reading stories like this, I think she may be right and our lad would be better off at home with people who love and respect him.
Wow I am always amazed by the level of bigotry and ignorance of some of the posters on the Adver site. However, it is also good to see some spirited people speaking up in defense of the less fortunate in our society. As the father of a 21 year old autistic young man I can honestly say a street like this would have made a great home for a small autistic group. Autism is a spectrum and many would be able/capable to live happy fulfilling lives in such a community. There would be some on the autistic spectrum that such a community home would not suit, but I trust that social workers, health professionals and the like would not place them in an unsuitable setting. As an aside my wife and I have decided to care for our son at home for as long as we are able. I would love my boy to be able to live semi independently in the community, but my wife is always concerned about people's attitudes to the disabled. As time goes on, and reading stories like this, I think she may be right and our lad would be better off at home with people who love and respect him. Spurs Fan
  • Score: 77

5:22pm Wed 30 Jul 14

EmmBee says...

I've never seen so many crossed arms in one place...
I've never seen so many crossed arms in one place... EmmBee
  • Score: 38

5:37pm Wed 30 Jul 14

tatty09 says...

Wow just wow! I used to live in okebourne park and I'm happy I know longer do. I would be ashamed to be associated with the views of the current residents. Blatantly using the no business rule to hide the real and ignorant reasons they don't want the home. Many people run a business from the homes in the estate! You should all be ashamed! I must also add the photography with this article is laughable. Good luck on finding a new property with much nicer neighbours. I'm sure the okebourne park resistance would very quickly change their minds should they mind themselves or loved ones in a similar situation.
Wow just wow! I used to live in okebourne park and I'm happy I know longer do. I would be ashamed to be associated with the views of the current residents. Blatantly using the no business rule to hide the real and ignorant reasons they don't want the home. Many people run a business from the homes in the estate! You should all be ashamed! I must also add the photography with this article is laughable. Good luck on finding a new property with much nicer neighbours. I'm sure the okebourne park resistance would very quickly change their minds should they mind themselves or loved ones in a similar situation. tatty09
  • Score: 60

5:38pm Wed 30 Jul 14

tatty09 says...

Must proof read! No not know!
Must proof read! No not know! tatty09
  • Score: 6

5:53pm Wed 30 Jul 14

thefox60 says...

My Daughter also lives in Autism Care's other house in Swindon & the care & dedication of the staff is second to none. It is by no means an easy decision to make but when you yourself are getting older, your child's best interests have to come first & you need to ensure they are settled into a loving environment ready for the day that you are no longer around.
I wish Tanya & Stuart all the best with finding another house which isn't surrounded by such narrow minded people.
My Daughter also lives in Autism Care's other house in Swindon & the care & dedication of the staff is second to none. It is by no means an easy decision to make but when you yourself are getting older, your child's best interests have to come first & you need to ensure they are settled into a loving environment ready for the day that you are no longer around. I wish Tanya & Stuart all the best with finding another house which isn't surrounded by such narrow minded people. thefox60
  • Score: 45

6:45pm Wed 30 Jul 14

abailey32 says...

This is besides the point but it's so infuriating. Please say "people who have autism" not "autistic people." I know no one means anything bad by it but you wouldn't say "cancerous people" if you were referring to somewhere dedicated to oncology care would you?
You wouldn't say demented people when referring to people who have dementia care so please just think and rephrase. ☺
This is besides the point but it's so infuriating. Please say "people who have autism" not "autistic people." I know no one means anything bad by it but you wouldn't say "cancerous people" if you were referring to somewhere dedicated to oncology care would you? You wouldn't say demented people when referring to people who have dementia care so please just think and rephrase. ☺ abailey32
  • Score: 14

7:31pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Davey Gravey says...

Amberflame wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.
When I first read this I thought you were being sarcastic and were referring to the residents

But you are serious aren't you!
Let me be clear. I have nothing against people with autism.
I was just saying that I wouldn't want a home for lots of them next door to me. How many people hand on heart can honestly say they wouldn't care if it was next door to them?
Having an autistic relative is not the same as a few in one place next door to you.
[quote][p][bold]Amberflame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.[/p][/quote]When I first read this I thought you were being sarcastic and were referring to the residents But you are serious aren't you![/p][/quote]Let me be clear. I have nothing against people with autism. I was just saying that I wouldn't want a home for lots of them next door to me. How many people hand on heart can honestly say they wouldn't care if it was next door to them? Having an autistic relative is not the same as a few in one place next door to you. Davey Gravey
  • Score: -65

7:40pm Wed 30 Jul 14

thefox60 says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Amberflame wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.
When I first read this I thought you were being sarcastic and were referring to the residents

But you are serious aren't you!
Let me be clear. I have nothing against people with autism.
I was just saying that I wouldn't want a home for lots of them next door to me. How many people hand on heart can honestly say they wouldn't care if it was next door to them?
Having an autistic relative is not the same as a few in one place next door to you.
6 people is hardly 'lots' & no, I wouldn't have a problem with a home being next door to me. It would be probably be a lot quieter than a house by us that has screaming children & dogs barking!
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Amberflame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.[/p][/quote]When I first read this I thought you were being sarcastic and were referring to the residents But you are serious aren't you![/p][/quote]Let me be clear. I have nothing against people with autism. I was just saying that I wouldn't want a home for lots of them next door to me. How many people hand on heart can honestly say they wouldn't care if it was next door to them? Having an autistic relative is not the same as a few in one place next door to you.[/p][/quote]6 people is hardly 'lots' & no, I wouldn't have a problem with a home being next door to me. It would be probably be a lot quieter than a house by us that has screaming children & dogs barking! thefox60
  • Score: 41

8:04pm Wed 30 Jul 14

mumma77 says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Amberflame wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.
When I first read this I thought you were being sarcastic and were referring to the residents

But you are serious aren't you!
Let me be clear. I have nothing against people with autism.
I was just saying that I wouldn't want a home for lots of them next door to me. How many people hand on heart can honestly say they wouldn't care if it was next door to them?
Having an autistic relative is not the same as a few in one place next door to you.
Yes you are right having a relative with autism is not the same as having people living next door to you with ASC
1.Living with someone with ASC can be had work but very rewarding
2.living next door to someone with ASC will have no impact on your life what so ever. Hopefully it will make you realise what you have in life and should be grateful for and never take for granted.

So yes thankyou for pointing that fact out.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Amberflame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.[/p][/quote]When I first read this I thought you were being sarcastic and were referring to the residents But you are serious aren't you![/p][/quote]Let me be clear. I have nothing against people with autism. I was just saying that I wouldn't want a home for lots of them next door to me. How many people hand on heart can honestly say they wouldn't care if it was next door to them? Having an autistic relative is not the same as a few in one place next door to you.[/p][/quote]Yes you are right having a relative with autism is not the same as having people living next door to you with ASC 1.Living with someone with ASC can be had work but very rewarding 2.living next door to someone with ASC will have no impact on your life what so ever. Hopefully it will make you realise what you have in life and should be grateful for and never take for granted. So yes thankyou for pointing that fact out. mumma77
  • Score: 42

8:05pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Davey Gravey says...

thefox60 wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Amberflame wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.
When I first read this I thought you were being sarcastic and were referring to the residents

But you are serious aren't you!
Let me be clear. I have nothing against people with autism.
I was just saying that I wouldn't want a home for lots of them next door to me. How many people hand on heart can honestly say they wouldn't care if it was next door to them?
Having an autistic relative is not the same as a few in one place next door to you.
6 people is hardly 'lots' & no, I wouldn't have a problem with a home being next door to me. It would be probably be a lot quieter than a house by us that has screaming children & dogs barking!
6 people with autism and effects of it that you may have to live next door to. Autism can make some people very loud for instance.
I would guess that people would come and go and residents would change from time to time.
If you feel so strongly then look for suitable properties in your street for it.
[quote][p][bold]thefox60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Amberflame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.[/p][/quote]When I first read this I thought you were being sarcastic and were referring to the residents But you are serious aren't you![/p][/quote]Let me be clear. I have nothing against people with autism. I was just saying that I wouldn't want a home for lots of them next door to me. How many people hand on heart can honestly say they wouldn't care if it was next door to them? Having an autistic relative is not the same as a few in one place next door to you.[/p][/quote]6 people is hardly 'lots' & no, I wouldn't have a problem with a home being next door to me. It would be probably be a lot quieter than a house by us that has screaming children & dogs barking![/p][/quote]6 people with autism and effects of it that you may have to live next door to. Autism can make some people very loud for instance. I would guess that people would come and go and residents would change from time to time. If you feel so strongly then look for suitable properties in your street for it. Davey Gravey
  • Score: -28

8:12pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Davey Gravey says...

mumma77 wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Amberflame wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.
When I first read this I thought you were being sarcastic and were referring to the residents

But you are serious aren't you!
Let me be clear. I have nothing against people with autism.
I was just saying that I wouldn't want a home for lots of them next door to me. How many people hand on heart can honestly say they wouldn't care if it was next door to them?
Having an autistic relative is not the same as a few in one place next door to you.
Yes you are right having a relative with autism is not the same as having people living next door to you with ASC
1.Living with someone with ASC can be had work but very rewarding
2.living next door to someone with ASC will have no impact on your life what so ever. Hopefully it will make you realise what you have in life and should be grateful for and never take for granted.

So yes thankyou for pointing that fact out.
Eh?
Either quote me properly or do one. One is not the same as six. Plenty seem to miss this fact.
[quote][p][bold]mumma77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Amberflame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.[/p][/quote]When I first read this I thought you were being sarcastic and were referring to the residents But you are serious aren't you![/p][/quote]Let me be clear. I have nothing against people with autism. I was just saying that I wouldn't want a home for lots of them next door to me. How many people hand on heart can honestly say they wouldn't care if it was next door to them? Having an autistic relative is not the same as a few in one place next door to you.[/p][/quote]Yes you are right having a relative with autism is not the same as having people living next door to you with ASC 1.Living with someone with ASC can be had work but very rewarding 2.living next door to someone with ASC will have no impact on your life what so ever. Hopefully it will make you realise what you have in life and should be grateful for and never take for granted. So yes thankyou for pointing that fact out.[/p][/quote]Eh? Either quote me properly or do one. One is not the same as six. Plenty seem to miss this fact. Davey Gravey
  • Score: -17

8:15pm Wed 30 Jul 14

thefox60 says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
thefox60 wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Amberflame wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.
When I first read this I thought you were being sarcastic and were referring to the residents

But you are serious aren't you!
Let me be clear. I have nothing against people with autism.
I was just saying that I wouldn't want a home for lots of them next door to me. How many people hand on heart can honestly say they wouldn't care if it was next door to them?
Having an autistic relative is not the same as a few in one place next door to you.
6 people is hardly 'lots' & no, I wouldn't have a problem with a home being next door to me. It would be probably be a lot quieter than a house by us that has screaming children & dogs barking!
6 people with autism and effects of it that you may have to live next door to. Autism can make some people very loud for instance.
I would guess that people would come and go and residents would change from time to time.
If you feel so strongly then look for suitable properties in your street for it.
Your ignorance amazes me. That's all I have to say.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thefox60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Amberflame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.[/p][/quote]When I first read this I thought you were being sarcastic and were referring to the residents But you are serious aren't you![/p][/quote]Let me be clear. I have nothing against people with autism. I was just saying that I wouldn't want a home for lots of them next door to me. How many people hand on heart can honestly say they wouldn't care if it was next door to them? Having an autistic relative is not the same as a few in one place next door to you.[/p][/quote]6 people is hardly 'lots' & no, I wouldn't have a problem with a home being next door to me. It would be probably be a lot quieter than a house by us that has screaming children & dogs barking![/p][/quote]6 people with autism and effects of it that you may have to live next door to. Autism can make some people very loud for instance. I would guess that people would come and go and residents would change from time to time. If you feel so strongly then look for suitable properties in your street for it.[/p][/quote]Your ignorance amazes me. That's all I have to say. thefox60
  • Score: 2

8:17pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Alain Menai says...

Oh Dearie me!

My Autistic family and I have been watching this story develop over the weekend..........it'
s not pretty.

We have lived in Liden for nine years and one of our children attended The Chalet School which is very close to the property in question and we know other families with Autistic children who also live in Liden, so please don't tar us all with the same brush.

We keep ourselves to ourselves and have always tried to be caring and unobtrusive neighbours.

There are some lovely people in Liden. (Including Okebourne Park). However some seem to be having a small issue concerning inclusivity. I hope that lessons are learned from this.

Some commentators have noted that it may be about property values and they may be right. The worship of 'Mammon' does seem to bring out some negative attitudes.

We have also been saddened by the personal tone of the attacks on this website.....unfortun
ately this seems to be the perceived norm. Can we not rise above this?

Most body language goes straight over my head.....But...The folded arms thing is just plain weird.

Vulcan salute.(Live long and prosper).
Oh Dearie me! My Autistic family and I have been watching this story develop over the weekend..........it' s not pretty. We have lived in Liden for nine years and one of our children attended The Chalet School which is very close to the property in question and we know other families with Autistic children who also live in Liden, so please don't tar us all with the same brush. We keep ourselves to ourselves and have always tried to be caring and unobtrusive neighbours. There are some lovely people in Liden. (Including Okebourne Park). However some seem to be having a small issue concerning inclusivity. I hope that lessons are learned from this. Some commentators have noted that it may be about property values and they may be right. The worship of 'Mammon' does seem to bring out some negative attitudes. We have also been saddened by the personal tone of the attacks on this website.....unfortun ately this seems to be the perceived norm. Can we not rise above this? Most body language goes straight over my head.....But...The folded arms thing is just plain weird. Vulcan salute.(Live long and prosper). Alain Menai
  • Score: 28

8:27pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Davey Gravey says...

thefox60 wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
thefox60 wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Amberflame wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.
When I first read this I thought you were being sarcastic and were referring to the residents

But you are serious aren't you!
Let me be clear. I have nothing against people with autism.
I was just saying that I wouldn't want a home for lots of them next door to me. How many people hand on heart can honestly say they wouldn't care if it was next door to them?
Having an autistic relative is not the same as a few in one place next door to you.
6 people is hardly 'lots' & no, I wouldn't have a problem with a home being next door to me. It would be probably be a lot quieter than a house by us that has screaming children & dogs barking!
6 people with autism and effects of it that you may have to live next door to. Autism can make some people very loud for instance.
I would guess that people would come and go and residents would change from time to time.
If you feel so strongly then look for suitable properties in your street for it.
Your ignorance amazes me. That's all I have to say.
Enlighten me then. Educate me.
I'm sorry if I offend but a house full of autistic people next door doesn't appeal to me.
How many condemning the residents who opposed this have had dealings with multiple sufferers of autism?
All in one place at one time?
[quote][p][bold]thefox60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thefox60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Amberflame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.[/p][/quote]When I first read this I thought you were being sarcastic and were referring to the residents But you are serious aren't you![/p][/quote]Let me be clear. I have nothing against people with autism. I was just saying that I wouldn't want a home for lots of them next door to me. How many people hand on heart can honestly say they wouldn't care if it was next door to them? Having an autistic relative is not the same as a few in one place next door to you.[/p][/quote]6 people is hardly 'lots' & no, I wouldn't have a problem with a home being next door to me. It would be probably be a lot quieter than a house by us that has screaming children & dogs barking![/p][/quote]6 people with autism and effects of it that you may have to live next door to. Autism can make some people very loud for instance. I would guess that people would come and go and residents would change from time to time. If you feel so strongly then look for suitable properties in your street for it.[/p][/quote]Your ignorance amazes me. That's all I have to say.[/p][/quote]Enlighten me then. Educate me. I'm sorry if I offend but a house full of autistic people next door doesn't appeal to me. How many condemning the residents who opposed this have had dealings with multiple sufferers of autism? All in one place at one time? Davey Gravey
  • Score: -33

8:32pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Sgt Rock (is going to help me) says...

Davey Gravey it is possible that six autistic young people could be far better neighbours than your average family who may move to this property. As someone else has said your ignorance on this subject is amazing. The residents of Okebourne Park will have intentionally or unintentionally reinforced the negative perception of Swindon in the eyes of many.
Davey Gravey it is possible that six autistic young people could be far better neighbours than your average family who may move to this property. As someone else has said your ignorance on this subject is amazing. The residents of Okebourne Park will have intentionally or unintentionally reinforced the negative perception of Swindon in the eyes of many. Sgt Rock (is going to help me)
  • Score: 29

8:48pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Alain Menai says...

Davey Gravey wrote.... complete twaddle as usual.

I would rather have six people of any race, gender, sexual orientation, disability, political allegiance or preference for porridge living next door to me........I would even put up with you as long as you limit the over the hedge arguments to between the hours of sunrise and gloaming.

Live long and prosper.
Davey Gravey wrote.... complete twaddle as usual. I would rather have six people of any race, gender, sexual orientation, disability, political allegiance or preference for porridge living next door to me........I would even put up with you as long as you limit the over the hedge arguments to between the hours of sunrise and gloaming. Live long and prosper. Alain Menai
  • Score: 3

8:48pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Davey Gravey says...

Having an autistic child will automatically make people defensive and protective. I get that. It will also cloud your judgement though. Having an autistic child is not the same as having 6 autistic people in one house.
If I am ignorant then tell me why I am.
Having an autistic child will automatically make people defensive and protective. I get that. It will also cloud your judgement though. Having an autistic child is not the same as having 6 autistic people in one house. If I am ignorant then tell me why I am. Davey Gravey
  • Score: -19

8:56pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Alain Menai says...

Dearest D Gravey,

You need to live some.

I have three ASC people in my house. Including me.

Four if you count the dog.

One of them is academically brilliant.

One of them is an absolute angel.

One of them is a hairy little git with big ears who jumps on people and humps their leg and the other one is the dog.
Dearest D Gravey, You need to live some. I have three ASC people in my house. Including me. Four if you count the dog. One of them is academically brilliant. One of them is an absolute angel. One of them is a hairy little git with big ears who jumps on people and humps their leg and the other one is the dog. Alain Menai
  • Score: 51

8:59pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Sgt Rock (is going to help me) says...

DaveyGravey, autism is spectrum disorder so people are affected in different ways and to different levels. With the proper care and support there is absolutely no reason why the six people who would have lived here would be any more or less disruptive than any other group. I am chair of governors at swindon's largest special school so I have some knowledge of this complex. condition . I do not say it lightly but you are ignorant on this issue.
DaveyGravey, autism is spectrum disorder so people are affected in different ways and to different levels. With the proper care and support there is absolutely no reason why the six people who would have lived here would be any more or less disruptive than any other group. I am chair of governors at swindon's largest special school so I have some knowledge of this complex. condition . I do not say it lightly but you are ignorant on this issue. Sgt Rock (is going to help me)
  • Score: 34

9:02pm Wed 30 Jul 14

girlinthegarden says...

I have worked with young people on the 'spectrum' for 14 years. They are clever, funny, good company (yes really) and very rewarding to be around. They are ALL DIFFERENT. Hence the use of the term 'spectrum' in Autistic Spectrum Condition. They are not all noisy. They are not all violent. They do not all display challenging behaviour.
The response to the home, by residents, and some of the people making comments is down to pure ignorance. People are so quick to judge and condemn in our modern world, before they have the faintest idea what the truth/actual case might be.
I wouldn't bat an eyelid if a home was set up in my neighbourhood, because I am not ignorant. If I don't know about something, I find out about it and do some research...and never judge...condemn and jump to conclusions about things I know nothing of.
I have worked with young people on the 'spectrum' for 14 years. They are clever, funny, good company (yes really) and very rewarding to be around. They are ALL DIFFERENT. Hence the use of the term 'spectrum' in Autistic Spectrum Condition. They are not all noisy. They are not all violent. They do not all display challenging behaviour. The response to the home, by residents, and some of the people making comments is down to pure ignorance. People are so quick to judge and condemn in our modern world, before they have the faintest idea what the truth/actual case might be. I wouldn't bat an eyelid if a home was set up in my neighbourhood, because I am not ignorant. If I don't know about something, I find out about it and do some research...and never judge...condemn and jump to conclusions about things I know nothing of. girlinthegarden
  • Score: 43

9:07pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Alain Menai says...

Admirably said Sgt Rock.

Standard British Army Salute.....And live long and prosper.
Admirably said Sgt Rock. Standard British Army Salute.....And live long and prosper. Alain Menai
  • Score: 6

9:12pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Davey Gravey says...

Nobody has said they all do this or that. The fact that it is different from person to person means the effects of the condition will differ. My father is mildly autistic by the way.
I'm yet to read anything that has changed my mind or educated me. I have nothing more to add and have said enough. I wish you all well and hope your autistic loved ones live long and happy lives. Good evening to you all.
Nobody has said they all do this or that. The fact that it is different from person to person means the effects of the condition will differ. My father is mildly autistic by the way. I'm yet to read anything that has changed my mind or educated me. I have nothing more to add and have said enough. I wish you all well and hope your autistic loved ones live long and happy lives. Good evening to you all. Davey Gravey
  • Score: -6

9:35pm Wed 30 Jul 14

honest one says...

Truth be said I dont know what the residents are fussing about. Come on ,it's not like it's such a nice looking estate. Huge but not particurlaly pretty houses and as for the people...well! Total intolerance, which is not acceptable in this day and age. It's a world for everyone to share regardless of gender, race, sexuality and in this case autism.
Truth be said I dont know what the residents are fussing about. Come on ,it's not like it's such a nice looking estate. Huge but not particurlaly pretty houses and as for the people...well! Total intolerance, which is not acceptable in this day and age. It's a world for everyone to share regardless of gender, race, sexuality and in this case autism. honest one
  • Score: 18

9:44pm Wed 30 Jul 14

morris 1 says...

Have any of you spent time with an autistic person, they are human beings like the rest of us, that just need extra care and devotion. They are not lepers, so stop being so selfish. We need to support them and help in anyway we can.
Have any of you spent time with an autistic person, they are human beings like the rest of us, that just need extra care and devotion. They are not lepers, so stop being so selfish. We need to support them and help in anyway we can. morris 1
  • Score: 22

9:51pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Alain Menai says...

Mr D Gravey Sah!

Thank you for dismissing us.

You remind me of my granny......stir the pot and go to bed.

Still......

Live long and prosper.
Mr D Gravey Sah! Thank you for dismissing us. You remind me of my granny......stir the pot and go to bed. Still...... Live long and prosper. Alain Menai
  • Score: 9

9:54pm Wed 30 Jul 14

johntomjo says...

to the idiotic bigoted snobs who don't like my comments,......you are saying my son on the spectrum has no rights in society.....I would love to meet you at one of the autism fun days and let you spout your **** in font of other parents and family


I really do hope you don't need help once your perfect working life is over
to the idiotic bigoted snobs who don't like my comments,......you are saying my son on the spectrum has no rights in society.....I would love to meet you at one of the autism fun days and let you spout your **** in font of other parents and family I really do hope you don't need help once your perfect working life is over johntomjo
  • Score: 16

10:08pm Wed 30 Jul 14

alfiepaul says...

Disgusting!!!! My son is autistic and would leave these people standing in everyway possible !!!!! I hope they get there wish because I wouldnt want any autistic person to live along these bigotted people and I hope instead you get a load of anti social scum bags that give you never ending trouble which is what you all deserve !!!!!! By the way I have lived in my property for 14 years and I have only just discovered we have got an autistic home across the road from me and the only way I found out was the girl next door had heard about my son and knocked to say she worked there and if I ever needed help with my son I was so touched by this and THATS what neighbours should be like I feel ashamed for the lot of you disgusting people!!!!!!
Disgusting!!!! My son is autistic and would leave these people standing in everyway possible !!!!! I hope they get there wish because I wouldnt want any autistic person to live along these bigotted people and I hope instead you get a load of anti social scum bags that give you never ending trouble which is what you all deserve !!!!!! By the way I have lived in my property for 14 years and I have only just discovered we have got an autistic home across the road from me and the only way I found out was the girl next door had heard about my son and knocked to say she worked there and if I ever needed help with my son I was so touched by this and THATS what neighbours should be like I feel ashamed for the lot of you disgusting people!!!!!! alfiepaul
  • Score: 34

10:17pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Kennan! says...

I think care home was the wrong term to use. If 6 'normal' people bought that house, it wouldn't have been stopped. The fact these people have autism makes no difference. These people are still humans, like anyone else. As a support worker, I see autistic people, I work with them, and being quite frank, I prefer them over working with the 'norms' of society.. One of them reasons is because they don't judge people half as much as the pathetic people saying 'they don't want them living near me'.. But hey.. Everyone's entitled to an opinion.
I think care home was the wrong term to use. If 6 'normal' people bought that house, it wouldn't have been stopped. The fact these people have autism makes no difference. These people are still humans, like anyone else. As a support worker, I see autistic people, I work with them, and being quite frank, I prefer them over working with the 'norms' of society.. One of them reasons is because they don't judge people half as much as the pathetic people saying 'they don't want them living near me'.. But hey.. Everyone's entitled to an opinion. Kennan!
  • Score: 29

10:17pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Wowzimmer says...

So there's a covenant preventing Okebourne Park premises being used for business purposes.

I wasn't quite sure where Okebourne Park was so typed it into Google Maps. To my surprise I found a business promoted smack bang in Okebourne Park. I won't name the business in question as that's not my place to do so. However, one does have to question to possible double standards at play here.

I too echo the sentiments of many commentators and wish Autism Care Wiltshire the very best of luck in finding a new location as soon as possible.
So there's a covenant preventing Okebourne Park premises being used for business purposes. I wasn't quite sure where Okebourne Park was so typed it into Google Maps. To my surprise I found a business promoted smack bang in Okebourne Park. I won't name the business in question as that's not my place to do so. However, one does have to question to possible double standards at play here. I too echo the sentiments of many commentators and wish Autism Care Wiltshire the very best of luck in finding a new location as soon as possible. Wowzimmer
  • Score: 17

10:21pm Wed 30 Jul 14

alfiepaul says...

Davey gravey I
Davey gravey I alfiepaul
  • Score: -2

10:23pm Wed 30 Jul 14

alfiepaul says...

Davey Gravey I pray the lord teaches you well and when he does I hope you remember all the autistic people and there familys :)
Davey Gravey I pray the lord teaches you well and when he does I hope you remember all the autistic people and there familys :) alfiepaul
  • Score: 5

10:25pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Kennan! says...

Oldtownmum wrote:
EastleazeRed wrote:
Oldtownmum wrote:
To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours
Well lets hope you get looked after in your old age oldtownmum , because I wouldn't want a bigoted grumpy old woman living in a care home anywhere near me.
It's not bigoted, it's realism. A small quiet estate is not the place for Autistic adults. These adults are living away from their families for a reason - they are very difficult to manage in a normal home environment. You can criticise me all you like, but I have experience of similar situations, you don't.
Hmm these people are living away from their families for a reason?? How about the reason being, they want more independence! Like anyone moving away from the family home. Autistic people can live very 'normal' lives, if not better. Some of the smartest people in the world have a disability of some sort.
[quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EastleazeRed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours[/p][/quote]Well lets hope you get looked after in your old age oldtownmum , because I wouldn't want a bigoted grumpy old woman living in a care home anywhere near me.[/p][/quote]It's not bigoted, it's realism. A small quiet estate is not the place for Autistic adults. These adults are living away from their families for a reason - they are very difficult to manage in a normal home environment. You can criticise me all you like, but I have experience of similar situations, you don't.[/p][/quote]Hmm these people are living away from their families for a reason?? How about the reason being, they want more independence! Like anyone moving away from the family home. Autistic people can live very 'normal' lives, if not better. Some of the smartest people in the world have a disability of some sort. Kennan!
  • Score: 26

10:26pm Wed 30 Jul 14

alfiepaul says...

EmmBee wrote:
I've never seen so many crossed arms in one place...
So defensive I feel ashamed for them Im glad the home wont be put there I wouldnt want to see any autistic person living along side these haters :)
[quote][p][bold]EmmBee[/bold] wrote: I've never seen so many crossed arms in one place...[/p][/quote]So defensive I feel ashamed for them Im glad the home wont be put there I wouldnt want to see any autistic person living along side these haters :) alfiepaul
  • Score: 18

10:30pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Oldtownmum says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Amberflame wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.
When I first read this I thought you were being sarcastic and were referring to the residents

But you are serious aren't you!
Let me be clear. I have nothing against people with autism.
I was just saying that I wouldn't want a home for lots of them next door to me. How many people hand on heart can honestly say they wouldn't care if it was next door to them?
Having an autistic relative is not the same as a few in one place next door to you.
Well said. And truthful. All these holier than thou abusive comments are ridiculous. No one has said anything derogatory or offensive. No one has said people with autism should be locked away! This is a comments section to give views. My view is I wouldn't want a care home as my neighbour.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Amberflame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.[/p][/quote]When I first read this I thought you were being sarcastic and were referring to the residents But you are serious aren't you![/p][/quote]Let me be clear. I have nothing against people with autism. I was just saying that I wouldn't want a home for lots of them next door to me. How many people hand on heart can honestly say they wouldn't care if it was next door to them? Having an autistic relative is not the same as a few in one place next door to you.[/p][/quote]Well said. And truthful. All these holier than thou abusive comments are ridiculous. No one has said anything derogatory or offensive. No one has said people with autism should be locked away! This is a comments section to give views. My view is I wouldn't want a care home as my neighbour. Oldtownmum
  • Score: -25

10:30pm Wed 30 Jul 14

dsbrq_ says...

I actually never commented in SA forums, but ... after reading this article I was full of anger and sadness.
I was so sad for the vulnerable people who were being basically told "You are weird and we don't want to live next to you".
I was even more sad that when I shared my frustration to my colleagues in office, I had to heavily defend my point of view (why?).

I always hoped that british society is one of the most polite and understandable for people in need. I tried to look again at the picture, trying to understand the anger in their eyes. I wish they all will never need any help in their life and never bee ousted by their neighbours because they will be old, ill, vulnerable.

Today - I was slapped in my face.
I actually never commented in SA forums, but ... after reading this article I was full of anger and sadness. I was so sad for the vulnerable people who were being basically told "You are weird and we don't want to live next to you". I was even more sad that when I shared my frustration to my colleagues in office, I had to heavily defend my point of view (why?). I always hoped that british society is one of the most polite and understandable for people in need. I tried to look again at the picture, trying to understand the anger in their eyes. I wish they all will never need any help in their life and never bee ousted by their neighbours because they will be old, ill, vulnerable. Today - I was slapped in my face. dsbrq_
  • Score: 32

10:32pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Oldtownmum says...

johntomjo wrote:
to the idiotic bigoted snobs who don't like my comments,......you are saying my son on the spectrum has no rights in society.....I would love to meet you at one of the autism fun days and let you spout your **** in font of other parents and family


I really do hope you don't need help once your perfect working life is over
How eloquent!
[quote][p][bold]johntomjo[/bold] wrote: to the idiotic bigoted snobs who don't like my comments,......you are saying my son on the spectrum has no rights in society.....I would love to meet you at one of the autism fun days and let you spout your **** in font of other parents and family I really do hope you don't need help once your perfect working life is over[/p][/quote]How eloquent! Oldtownmum
  • Score: -9

10:35pm Wed 30 Jul 14

alfiepaul says...

Oldtownmum wrote:
EastleazeRed wrote:
Oldtownmum wrote:
To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours
Well lets hope you get looked after in your old age oldtownmum , because I wouldn't want a bigoted grumpy old woman living in a care home anywhere near me.
It's not bigoted, it's realism. A small quiet estate is not the place for Autistic adults. These adults are living away from their families for a reason - they are very difficult to manage in a normal home environment. You can criticise me all you like, but I have experience of similar situations, you don't.
I live on a quiet rural estate ive lived here 14 years and only just found out that an adult autistic home is across the road from me I only found out because the girl next door had heard my son has just been diagnosed and she knocked to tell me she worked there and if I ever needed a helping hand because THATS what neighbours do I pray the lord teaches you this lesson I feel ashamed for your ignorance!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EastleazeRed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours[/p][/quote]Well lets hope you get looked after in your old age oldtownmum , because I wouldn't want a bigoted grumpy old woman living in a care home anywhere near me.[/p][/quote]It's not bigoted, it's realism. A small quiet estate is not the place for Autistic adults. These adults are living away from their families for a reason - they are very difficult to manage in a normal home environment. You can criticise me all you like, but I have experience of similar situations, you don't.[/p][/quote]I live on a quiet rural estate ive lived here 14 years and only just found out that an adult autistic home is across the road from me I only found out because the girl next door had heard my son has just been diagnosed and she knocked to tell me she worked there and if I ever needed a helping hand because THATS what neighbours do I pray the lord teaches you this lesson I feel ashamed for your ignorance!!!! alfiepaul
  • Score: 32

10:40pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Oldtownmum says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Amberflame wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.
When I first read this I thought you were being sarcastic and were referring to the residents

But you are serious aren't you!
Let me be clear. I have nothing against people with autism.
I was just saying that I wouldn't want a home for lots of them next door to me. How many people hand on heart can honestly say they wouldn't care if it was next door to them?
Having an autistic relative is not the same as a few in one place next door to you.
Well said. And truthful. All these holier than thou abusive comments are ridiculous. No one has said anything derogatory or offensive. No one has said people with autism should be locked away! This is a comments section to give views. My view is I wouldn't want a care home as my neighbour.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Amberflame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.[/p][/quote]When I first read this I thought you were being sarcastic and were referring to the residents But you are serious aren't you![/p][/quote]Let me be clear. I have nothing against people with autism. I was just saying that I wouldn't want a home for lots of them next door to me. How many people hand on heart can honestly say they wouldn't care if it was next door to them? Having an autistic relative is not the same as a few in one place next door to you.[/p][/quote]Well said. And truthful. All these holier than thou abusive comments are ridiculous. No one has said anything derogatory or offensive. No one has said people with autism should be locked away! This is a comments section to give views. My view is I wouldn't want a care home as my neighbour. Oldtownmum
  • Score: -29

10:44pm Wed 30 Jul 14

alfiepaul says...

I hope a load of asbos get housed there and give you some thing to fold your arms for the lot of you are pathetic!!!! U will get your karma
I hope a load of asbos get housed there and give you some thing to fold your arms for the lot of you are pathetic!!!! U will get your karma alfiepaul
  • Score: 19

10:59pm Wed 30 Jul 14

johntomjo says...

Oldtownmum wrote:
johntomjo wrote:
to the idiotic bigoted snobs who don't like my comments,......you are saying my son on the spectrum has no rights in society.....I would love to meet you at one of the autism fun days and let you spout your **** in font of other parents and family


I really do hope you don't need help once your perfect working life is over
How eloquent!
how up ones own arse
[quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johntomjo[/bold] wrote: to the idiotic bigoted snobs who don't like my comments,......you are saying my son on the spectrum has no rights in society.....I would love to meet you at one of the autism fun days and let you spout your **** in font of other parents and family I really do hope you don't need help once your perfect working life is over[/p][/quote]How eloquent![/p][/quote]how up ones own arse johntomjo
  • Score: 14

11:11pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Amberflame says...

johntomjo wrote:
Oldtownmum wrote:
johntomjo wrote:
to the idiotic bigoted snobs who don't like my comments,......you are saying my son on the spectrum has no rights in society.....I would love to meet you at one of the autism fun days and let you spout your **** in font of other parents and family


I really do hope you don't need help once your perfect working life is over
How eloquent!
how up ones own arse
My sentiments exactly!
[quote][p][bold]johntomjo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johntomjo[/bold] wrote: to the idiotic bigoted snobs who don't like my comments,......you are saying my son on the spectrum has no rights in society.....I would love to meet you at one of the autism fun days and let you spout your **** in font of other parents and family I really do hope you don't need help once your perfect working life is over[/p][/quote]How eloquent![/p][/quote]how up ones own arse[/p][/quote]My sentiments exactly! Amberflame
  • Score: 5

11:14pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Amberflame says...

Alain Menai wrote:
Dearest D Gravey,

You need to live some.

I have three ASC people in my house. Including me.

Four if you count the dog.

One of them is academically brilliant.

One of them is an absolute angel.

One of them is a hairy little git with big ears who jumps on people and humps their leg and the other one is the dog.
You sir, have made me chuckle!

Thank you!!
[quote][p][bold]Alain Menai[/bold] wrote: Dearest D Gravey, You need to live some. I have three ASC people in my house. Including me. Four if you count the dog. One of them is academically brilliant. One of them is an absolute angel. One of them is a hairy little git with big ears who jumps on people and humps their leg and the other one is the dog.[/p][/quote]You sir, have made me chuckle! Thank you!! Amberflame
  • Score: 17

11:24pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Amberflame says...

Oldtownmum wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Amberflame wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.
When I first read this I thought you were being sarcastic and were referring to the residents

But you are serious aren't you!
Let me be clear. I have nothing against people with autism.
I was just saying that I wouldn't want a home for lots of them next door to me. How many people hand on heart can honestly say they wouldn't care if it was next door to them?
Having an autistic relative is not the same as a few in one place next door to you.
Well said. And truthful. All these holier than thou abusive comments are ridiculous. No one has said anything derogatory or offensive. No one has said people with autism should be locked away! This is a comments section to give views. My view is I wouldn't want a care home as my neighbour.
Your 'opinion' is duly noted!
[quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Amberflame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.[/p][/quote]When I first read this I thought you were being sarcastic and were referring to the residents But you are serious aren't you![/p][/quote]Let me be clear. I have nothing against people with autism. I was just saying that I wouldn't want a home for lots of them next door to me. How many people hand on heart can honestly say they wouldn't care if it was next door to them? Having an autistic relative is not the same as a few in one place next door to you.[/p][/quote]Well said. And truthful. All these holier than thou abusive comments are ridiculous. No one has said anything derogatory or offensive. No one has said people with autism should be locked away! This is a comments section to give views. My view is I wouldn't want a care home as my neighbour.[/p][/quote]Your 'opinion' is duly noted! Amberflame
  • Score: 3

11:35pm Wed 30 Jul 14

_Paparazzi_ says...

This saddens me so much. Okebourne Park is predominantly (if not solely) detached properties with loads of space between each house. I fear this is nothing to do with noise but is in fact pure shameful snobbery. I live in a peaceful, rural part of Swindon and most days I hear a couple of adults with disabilities being taken out for a walk by their carers along the lane. This does not annoy or bother me, this fills me with happiness that people who ordinarily risk being stuck between 4 walls, separated from family, friends and society are having the chance to be with people, outside, in the fresh air, living life!
Shame on you who couldn't think beyond yourselves :(
This saddens me so much. Okebourne Park is predominantly (if not solely) detached properties with loads of space between each house. I fear this is nothing to do with noise but is in fact pure shameful snobbery. I live in a peaceful, rural part of Swindon and most days I hear a couple of adults with disabilities being taken out for a walk by their carers along the lane. This does not annoy or bother me, this fills me with happiness that people who ordinarily risk being stuck between 4 walls, separated from family, friends and society are having the chance to be with people, outside, in the fresh air, living life! Shame on you who couldn't think beyond yourselves :( _Paparazzi_
  • Score: 28

11:58pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Alain Menai says...

Dearest Amberflame,

Thank you.

I really appreciate your cognisance of my pathetic attempt at drawing some levity to this serious and contentious debate.

My beloved partner has a saying.

' If you can't say anything nice.....then shut the feck up'.

I tend to ignore her until her Mother says it too. That is maffematicks aparrently and some psychology. (Fx2 > m = 0). = counselling.

I adore my partner. But. Strangely enough not her mother. The Universe tells me that there is probably a maffematical formula to describe this too. (Male> Broomstick+ 0).

My aforementioned adorable person works for very young disabled children. I am constantly awestruck by her capacity for caring.

and.....

Then coming home and caring for Clever one, Angelic one, Dog, and Missisippi Leg Hound.

Some of the residents of Okebourne have disclosed their fear and it diminishes them.

They are human apparently.

Live long and contribute to satellite services.
Dearest Amberflame, Thank you. I really appreciate your cognisance of my pathetic attempt at drawing some levity to this serious and contentious debate. My beloved partner has a saying. ' If you can't say anything nice.....then shut the feck up'. I tend to ignore her until her Mother says it too. That is maffematicks aparrently and some psychology. (Fx2 > m = 0). = counselling. I adore my partner. But. Strangely enough not her mother. The Universe tells me that there is probably a maffematical formula to describe this too. (Male> Broomstick+ 0). My aforementioned adorable person works for very young disabled children. I am constantly awestruck by her capacity for caring. and..... Then coming home and caring for Clever one, Angelic one, Dog, and Missisippi Leg Hound. Some of the residents of Okebourne have disclosed their fear and it diminishes them. They are human apparently. Live long and contribute to satellite services. Alain Menai
  • Score: 18

3:03am Thu 31 Jul 14

Born and Bred says...

Shame on you ,i have twin Great grandsons both Autistic and the thought that they will be treated like this when they grow up saddens me ,If you google famous Autistic people you would be surprised just who is or was ,they are very intellegent ,Thankyou to the marvellous care workers who help them through life
Shame on you ,i have twin Great grandsons both Autistic and the thought that they will be treated like this when they grow up saddens me ,If you google famous Autistic people you would be surprised just who is or was ,they are very intellegent ,Thankyou to the marvellous care workers who help them through life Born and Bred
  • Score: 12

8:44am Thu 31 Jul 14

The Witch says...

One word to say to the people of Okebourne Park - Karma
One word to say to the people of Okebourne Park - Karma The Witch
  • Score: 15

9:31am Thu 31 Jul 14

messyits says...

It does appear the 2 councillors are supporting a clear breach of human rights as well as supporting protesters running business' against covenants on their properties and avoidance of business rates.
It does appear the 2 councillors are supporting a clear breach of human rights as well as supporting protesters running business' against covenants on their properties and avoidance of business rates. messyits
  • Score: 13

9:37am Thu 31 Jul 14

wobbles1 says...

Just look at all the residents grumpy faces. Im so glad I dont live in this village. Its complete ignorance at its finest. It saddens me beyond belief that people have such little compassion for each other specifically those with Autism. For those that put negative posts about those with Autism, are not thinking that these adults could be your children, nephews, granddaughter. Where do you suppose they dump them? in the middle of nowhere huh? what because they dont deserve it,or worthy enough to live in society? I suppose you'll tuck yourself s into bed at night without a single thought for those adults with Autism. They are worthy as much as you are to live where ever they like. What gives you power over other humans? This is whats very wrong with the world,, those in the picture.
Just look at all the residents grumpy faces. Im so glad I dont live in this village. Its complete ignorance at its finest. It saddens me beyond belief that people have such little compassion for each other specifically those with Autism. For those that put negative posts about those with Autism, are not thinking that these adults could be your children, nephews, granddaughter. Where do you suppose they dump them? in the middle of nowhere huh? what because they dont deserve it,or worthy enough to live in society? I suppose you'll tuck yourself s into bed at night without a single thought for those adults with Autism. They are worthy as much as you are to live where ever they like. What gives you power over other humans? This is whats very wrong with the world,, those in the picture. wobbles1
  • Score: 16

9:57am Thu 31 Jul 14

realitybattles says...

Reading the story was disappointing as it highlights how far society still needs to be pushed to be inclusive of those of us with differences.

Sometimes you need to know what battles need to be fought. And I suspect Autism Care Wiltshire after spending time with the residents are selling up as they will not jeopardise longer term inclusion for short term autism awareness / inclusion battle.

The photo of the residents allows many value judgements to be made. Would I want to live next door to them?

The two men (councillors, really? kinda says it all) at the front. One is over weight who may have time best served in a gym than in the local chippie. The other, a cheap suit that looks like it may contain some boiled lollies to entice local kiddies.

The residents at the back? hmmm.

A motley collection of sunbed users over a certain age. The age group that may in the future be waving placards protesting government as they fall into the 'not the best use of public resources' for NHS funding. Yep, your government values you as much as we value your opinion on people with autism.

I just don't see these people as being worthy models of a functional community. Autistic people are worth so much more than this lot.
Reading the story was disappointing as it highlights how far society still needs to be pushed to be inclusive of those of us with differences. Sometimes you need to know what battles need to be fought. And I suspect Autism Care Wiltshire after spending time with the residents are selling up as they will not jeopardise longer term inclusion for short term autism awareness / inclusion battle. The photo of the residents allows many value judgements to be made. Would I want to live next door to them? The two men (councillors, really? kinda says it all) at the front. One is over weight who may have time best served in a gym than in the local chippie. The other, a cheap suit that looks like it may contain some boiled lollies to entice local kiddies. The residents at the back? hmmm. A motley collection of sunbed users over a certain age. The age group that may in the future be waving placards protesting government as they fall into the 'not the best use of public resources' for NHS funding. Yep, your government values you as much as we value your opinion on people with autism. I just don't see these people as being worthy models of a functional community. Autistic people are worth so much more than this lot. realitybattles
  • Score: 16

10:30am Thu 31 Jul 14

BeardyBill says...

Alain Menai wrote:
Dearest D Gravey,

You need to live some.

I have three ASC people in my house. Including me.

Four if you count the dog.

One of them is academically brilliant.

One of them is an absolute angel.

One of them is a hairy little git with big ears who jumps on people and humps their leg and the other one is the dog.
Possibly the best post ever!
[quote][p][bold]Alain Menai[/bold] wrote: Dearest D Gravey, You need to live some. I have three ASC people in my house. Including me. Four if you count the dog. One of them is academically brilliant. One of them is an absolute angel. One of them is a hairy little git with big ears who jumps on people and humps their leg and the other one is the dog.[/p][/quote]Possibly the best post ever! BeardyBill
  • Score: 16

11:29am Thu 31 Jul 14

dsbrq_ says...

wobbles1 wrote:
Just look at all the residents grumpy faces. Im so glad I dont live in this village. Its complete ignorance at its finest. It saddens me beyond belief that people have such little compassion for each other specifically those with Autism. For those that put negative posts about those with Autism, are not thinking that these adults could be your children, nephews, granddaughter. Where do you suppose they dump them? in the middle of nowhere huh? what because they dont deserve it,or worthy enough to live in society? I suppose you'll tuck yourself s into bed at night without a single thought for those adults with Autism. They are worthy as much as you are to live where ever they like. What gives you power over other humans? This is whats very wrong with the world,, those in the picture.
I couldn't say it better. I think you hit the point - what is wrong with the world?

Isn't deeply sad even the fact that we are discussing what rights vulnerable humans should have? Did we forget that same kind of discussion were popular during WW2.... and what 'solution' was found?

It's actually not sad, it's disgusting. I don't see any reason why autistic (or any other disabled people) should be victims of simple-minded selfish minority.

Actually - the society should step forward and pro-actively help them -- as they have difficult life already.

P.S. -- like the idea of driving to that street and honk
[quote][p][bold]wobbles1[/bold] wrote: Just look at all the residents grumpy faces. Im so glad I dont live in this village. Its complete ignorance at its finest. It saddens me beyond belief that people have such little compassion for each other specifically those with Autism. For those that put negative posts about those with Autism, are not thinking that these adults could be your children, nephews, granddaughter. Where do you suppose they dump them? in the middle of nowhere huh? what because they dont deserve it,or worthy enough to live in society? I suppose you'll tuck yourself s into bed at night without a single thought for those adults with Autism. They are worthy as much as you are to live where ever they like. What gives you power over other humans? This is whats very wrong with the world,, those in the picture.[/p][/quote]I couldn't say it better. I think you hit the point - what is wrong with the world? Isn't deeply sad even the fact that we are discussing what rights vulnerable humans should have? Did we forget that same kind of discussion were popular during WW2.... and what 'solution' was found? It's actually not sad, it's disgusting. I don't see any reason why autistic (or any other disabled people) should be victims of simple-minded selfish minority. Actually - the society should step forward and pro-actively help them -- as they have difficult life already. P.S. -- like the idea of driving to that street and honk dsbrq_
  • Score: 12

11:52am Thu 31 Jul 14

Davey Gravey says...

johntomjo wrote:
look out for me today in your nice little cup de **** ...I will be in the green estate
Maybe the police should be informed about your threats etc. A potential breach of the peace- alarm harrasement or distress I'd wager.
Plenty of bitterness and I'll feeling towards people who have done no wrong. Says more about those who say this than anything else. Maybe karma has already paid you a visit?
[quote][p][bold]johntomjo[/bold] wrote: look out for me today in your nice little cup de **** ...I will be in the green estate[/p][/quote]Maybe the police should be informed about your threats etc. A potential breach of the peace- alarm harrasement or distress I'd wager. Plenty of bitterness and I'll feeling towards people who have done no wrong. Says more about those who say this than anything else. Maybe karma has already paid you a visit? Davey Gravey
  • Score: -6

11:58am Thu 31 Jul 14

lewisj588 says...

How is this right In anyone's eyes. The people that rely on sites like this one really so need the help, and all because of stupid theory's like there loud and violent everyone has kicked of in the street you people make me sick I hope that one day you or a family member need help or support like these amazing people and you get the opening arms you have given to them and see what it's like to be on the receiving end of discrimination and neglect you really are disgusting people and as for the two council members you should be stripped of your role and title
How is this right In anyone's eyes. The people that rely on sites like this one really so need the help, and all because of stupid theory's like there loud and violent everyone has kicked of in the street you people make me sick I hope that one day you or a family member need help or support like these amazing people and you get the opening arms you have given to them and see what it's like to be on the receiving end of discrimination and neglect you really are disgusting people and as for the two council members you should be stripped of your role and title lewisj588
  • Score: 8

11:58am Thu 31 Jul 14

BillMitch says...

Disgusting group of bigots and the idiot Councillors supporting them should be reported to the standards agency for breaching the councillors code of conduct regarding equality and discrimination.
Disgusting group of bigots and the idiot Councillors supporting them should be reported to the standards agency for breaching the councillors code of conduct regarding equality and discrimination. BillMitch
  • Score: 13

12:14pm Thu 31 Jul 14

BillMitch says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
thefox60 wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
thefox60 wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Amberflame wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.
When I first read this I thought you were being sarcastic and were referring to the residents

But you are serious aren't you!
Let me be clear. I have nothing against people with autism.
I was just saying that I wouldn't want a home for lots of them next door to me. How many people hand on heart can honestly say they wouldn't care if it was next door to them?
Having an autistic relative is not the same as a few in one place next door to you.
6 people is hardly 'lots' & no, I wouldn't have a problem with a home being next door to me. It would be probably be a lot quieter than a house by us that has screaming children & dogs barking!
6 people with autism and effects of it that you may have to live next door to. Autism can make some people very loud for instance.
I would guess that people would come and go and residents would change from time to time.
If you feel so strongly then look for suitable properties in your street for it.
Your ignorance amazes me. That's all I have to say.
Enlighten me then. Educate me.
I'm sorry if I offend but a house full of autistic people next door doesn't appeal to me.
How many condemning the residents who opposed this have had dealings with multiple sufferers of autism?
All in one place at one time?
Me I work in a home caring for autistic residents and I have a son with autism and I can confirm the nimbys in this article are nothing but uninformed bigots....and the councillors are an utter disgrace.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thefox60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thefox60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Amberflame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.[/p][/quote]When I first read this I thought you were being sarcastic and were referring to the residents But you are serious aren't you![/p][/quote]Let me be clear. I have nothing against people with autism. I was just saying that I wouldn't want a home for lots of them next door to me. How many people hand on heart can honestly say they wouldn't care if it was next door to them? Having an autistic relative is not the same as a few in one place next door to you.[/p][/quote]6 people is hardly 'lots' & no, I wouldn't have a problem with a home being next door to me. It would be probably be a lot quieter than a house by us that has screaming children & dogs barking![/p][/quote]6 people with autism and effects of it that you may have to live next door to. Autism can make some people very loud for instance. I would guess that people would come and go and residents would change from time to time. If you feel so strongly then look for suitable properties in your street for it.[/p][/quote]Your ignorance amazes me. That's all I have to say.[/p][/quote]Enlighten me then. Educate me. I'm sorry if I offend but a house full of autistic people next door doesn't appeal to me. How many condemning the residents who opposed this have had dealings with multiple sufferers of autism? All in one place at one time?[/p][/quote]Me I work in a home caring for autistic residents and I have a son with autism and I can confirm the nimbys in this article are nothing but uninformed bigots....and the councillors are an utter disgrace. BillMitch
  • Score: 14

12:14pm Thu 31 Jul 14

BillMitch says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
thefox60 wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
thefox60 wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Amberflame wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.
When I first read this I thought you were being sarcastic and were referring to the residents

But you are serious aren't you!
Let me be clear. I have nothing against people with autism.
I was just saying that I wouldn't want a home for lots of them next door to me. How many people hand on heart can honestly say they wouldn't care if it was next door to them?
Having an autistic relative is not the same as a few in one place next door to you.
6 people is hardly 'lots' & no, I wouldn't have a problem with a home being next door to me. It would be probably be a lot quieter than a house by us that has screaming children & dogs barking!
6 people with autism and effects of it that you may have to live next door to. Autism can make some people very loud for instance.
I would guess that people would come and go and residents would change from time to time.
If you feel so strongly then look for suitable properties in your street for it.
Your ignorance amazes me. That's all I have to say.
Enlighten me then. Educate me.
I'm sorry if I offend but a house full of autistic people next door doesn't appeal to me.
How many condemning the residents who opposed this have had dealings with multiple sufferers of autism?
All in one place at one time?
Me I work in a home caring for autistic residents and I have a son with autism and I can confirm the nimbys in this article are nothing but uninformed bigots....and the councillors are an utter disgrace.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thefox60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thefox60[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Amberflame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.[/p][/quote]When I first read this I thought you were being sarcastic and were referring to the residents But you are serious aren't you![/p][/quote]Let me be clear. I have nothing against people with autism. I was just saying that I wouldn't want a home for lots of them next door to me. How many people hand on heart can honestly say they wouldn't care if it was next door to them? Having an autistic relative is not the same as a few in one place next door to you.[/p][/quote]6 people is hardly 'lots' & no, I wouldn't have a problem with a home being next door to me. It would be probably be a lot quieter than a house by us that has screaming children & dogs barking![/p][/quote]6 people with autism and effects of it that you may have to live next door to. Autism can make some people very loud for instance. I would guess that people would come and go and residents would change from time to time. If you feel so strongly then look for suitable properties in your street for it.[/p][/quote]Your ignorance amazes me. That's all I have to say.[/p][/quote]Enlighten me then. Educate me. I'm sorry if I offend but a house full of autistic people next door doesn't appeal to me. How many condemning the residents who opposed this have had dealings with multiple sufferers of autism? All in one place at one time?[/p][/quote]Me I work in a home caring for autistic residents and I have a son with autism and I can confirm the nimbys in this article are nothing but uninformed bigots....and the councillors are an utter disgrace. BillMitch
  • Score: 9

12:53pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Sandor Clegane says...

Badgersgetabadname wrote:
Sandor Clegane wrote:
johntomjo wrote:
**** the lot of you against this ,I hope you all die alone in and old peoples home ,neglected and abused ....I would allow them next door
That's the contribution from the more 'caring' side of the debate.

Hmm.
You are oldtownmum aret you?
If not you two should get together.
Of course I'm not oldtownmum. I realise you and your cronies believe I'm about 89 different people on here but, as ever, you're entirely incorrect. Just because the majority hold different opinions to you doesn't mean I'm all of them. If you're really so dim as not to be able to notice very obviously different writing styles, maybe time to brush up with some English lessons over the summer.

My point was that it's pretty stupid to attack those who do not understand and are indifferent towards autistic people by hoping they 'all die alone, neglected and abused'.

I know you're a bit 'different' but surely even you have just about enough intelligence to recognise that.
[quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sandor Clegane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johntomjo[/bold] wrote: **** the lot of you against this ,I hope you all die alone in and old peoples home ,neglected and abused ....I would allow them next door[/p][/quote]That's the contribution from the more 'caring' side of the debate. Hmm.[/p][/quote]You are oldtownmum aret you? If not you two should get together.[/p][/quote]Of course I'm not oldtownmum. I realise you and your cronies believe I'm about 89 different people on here but, as ever, you're entirely incorrect. Just because the majority hold different opinions to you doesn't mean I'm all of them. If you're really so dim as not to be able to notice very obviously different writing styles, maybe time to brush up with some English lessons over the summer. My point was that it's pretty stupid to attack those who do not understand and are indifferent towards autistic people by hoping they 'all die alone, neglected and abused'. I know you're a bit 'different' but surely even you have just about enough intelligence to recognise that. Sandor Clegane
  • Score: -6

1:06pm Thu 31 Jul 14

woolster0 says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.
you tw@t
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.[/p][/quote]you tw@t woolster0
  • Score: 3

1:34pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Davey Gravey says...

woolster0 wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.
you tw@t
Would you like 6 autistic people next door to you?
I'm all for helping them but wouldn't want them in that number next door to me. That is all.
Lots of vitriol and abuse for that from many on here. Oh well I'll cope. 😃
[quote][p][bold]woolster0[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.[/p][/quote]you tw@t[/p][/quote]Would you like 6 autistic people next door to you? I'm all for helping them but wouldn't want them in that number next door to me. That is all. Lots of vitriol and abuse for that from many on here. Oh well I'll cope. 😃 Davey Gravey
  • Score: -7

2:08pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Sandor Clegane wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
Sandor Clegane wrote:
johntomjo wrote:
**** the lot of you against this ,I hope you all die alone in and old peoples home ,neglected and abused ....I would allow them next door
That's the contribution from the more 'caring' side of the debate.

Hmm.
You are oldtownmum aret you?
If not you two should get together.
Of course I'm not oldtownmum. I realise you and your cronies believe I'm about 89 different people on here but, as ever, you're entirely incorrect. Just because the majority hold different opinions to you doesn't mean I'm all of them. If you're really so dim as not to be able to notice very obviously different writing styles, maybe time to brush up with some English lessons over the summer.

My point was that it's pretty stupid to attack those who do not understand and are indifferent towards autistic people by hoping they 'all die alone, neglected and abused'.

I know you're a bit 'different' but surely even you have just about enough intelligence to recognise that.
Well done you kept your word for two days Mr "I shall no longer engage with you"
You councilor have been caught out a number of times because of your inflexible right wing arguments. I have asked you before what you expected to get out of it and you launched a verbal attack on me which led to one of your accounts (channel X) being removed.
The time you spend on comments here is only comparable to the inability of you are your council cronies.
89 log ons is an exaggeration but I would say there are 3/4 honestly dont care but it tickles me to see you reply to your own posts.

I posted a joke about you and oldtownmum the day before you said you would no longer contact me. So once again you have failed to live up to your word,
You supported ex mayor Nick Martin in his opinion to have the disabled sterilized, when the topic was families in crisis I explained that many services (military) people needed assistance you said parents should be locked up for the actions of their kids. Basically there is a litany of uncaring, selfish and right wing rhetoric from you.

I did not make the comment about people dying alone, nobody deserves that. Yet you chose to attempt to tie it to me.
I take it by your comment "youre a bit different" you are referring to my mental health. You are aware of my mental health because I sympathised with an article in which a lady had suffered awful brutality in her own home. I fail to see why that is your go to insult for me.

Now then please tell me again how you are not engaging with me in comments.
Which is another thing you have failed at.
[quote][p][bold]Sandor Clegane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sandor Clegane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johntomjo[/bold] wrote: **** the lot of you against this ,I hope you all die alone in and old peoples home ,neglected and abused ....I would allow them next door[/p][/quote]That's the contribution from the more 'caring' side of the debate. Hmm.[/p][/quote]You are oldtownmum aret you? If not you two should get together.[/p][/quote]Of course I'm not oldtownmum. I realise you and your cronies believe I'm about 89 different people on here but, as ever, you're entirely incorrect. Just because the majority hold different opinions to you doesn't mean I'm all of them. If you're really so dim as not to be able to notice very obviously different writing styles, maybe time to brush up with some English lessons over the summer. My point was that it's pretty stupid to attack those who do not understand and are indifferent towards autistic people by hoping they 'all die alone, neglected and abused'. I know you're a bit 'different' but surely even you have just about enough intelligence to recognise that.[/p][/quote]Well done you kept your word for two days Mr "I shall no longer engage with you" You councilor have been caught out a number of times because of your inflexible right wing arguments. I have asked you before what you expected to get out of it and you launched a verbal attack on me which led to one of your accounts (channel X) being removed. The time you spend on comments here is only comparable to the inability of you are your council cronies. 89 log ons is an exaggeration but I would say there are 3/4 honestly dont care but it tickles me to see you reply to your own posts. I posted a joke about you and oldtownmum the day before you said you would no longer contact me. So once again you have failed to live up to your word, You supported ex mayor Nick Martin in his opinion to have the disabled sterilized, when the topic was families in crisis I explained that many services (military) people needed assistance you said parents should be locked up for the actions of their kids. Basically there is a litany of uncaring, selfish and right wing rhetoric from you. I did not make the comment about people dying alone, nobody deserves that. Yet you chose to attempt to tie it to me. I take it by your comment "youre a bit different" you are referring to my mental health. You are aware of my mental health because I sympathised with an article in which a lady had suffered awful brutality in her own home. I fail to see why that is your go to insult for me. Now then please tell me again how you are not engaging with me in comments. Which is another thing you have failed at. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -1

2:24pm Thu 31 Jul 14

pipscare says...

surely this would not be a business as such but a property for supported living and inclusion of people with autism .
there for the covenants would not apply in this case .
would they be so quick to protest if it was a warden run old peoples home or flats .
surely this would not be a business as such but a property for supported living and inclusion of people with autism . there for the covenants would not apply in this case . would they be so quick to protest if it was a warden run old peoples home or flats . pipscare
  • Score: 5

2:29pm Thu 31 Jul 14

pipscare says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.
why are you scared they might fit in better than you
i only hope you never need a place like this for any of your family
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.[/p][/quote]why are you scared they might fit in better than you i only hope you never need a place like this for any of your family pipscare
  • Score: 7

2:34pm Thu 31 Jul 14

pipscare says...

Oldtownmum wrote:
To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours
you sad old hag its people like you that gives this country a bad name if you had a child of your own with a disability you wouldnt be so quick to condem them
[quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours[/p][/quote]you sad old hag its people like you that gives this country a bad name if you had a child of your own with a disability you wouldnt be so quick to condem them pipscare
  • Score: 9

2:37pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Amberflame says...

Alain Menai wrote:
Dearest Amberflame,

Thank you.

I really appreciate your cognisance of my pathetic attempt at drawing some levity to this serious and contentious debate.

My beloved partner has a saying.

' If you can't say anything nice.....then shut the feck up'.

I tend to ignore her until her Mother says it too. That is maffematicks aparrently and some psychology. (Fx2 > m = 0). = counselling.

I adore my partner. But. Strangely enough not her mother. The Universe tells me that there is probably a maffematical formula to describe this too. (Male> Broomstick+ 0).

My aforementioned adorable person works for very young disabled children. I am constantly awestruck by her capacity for caring.

and.....

Then coming home and caring for Clever one, Angelic one, Dog, and Missisippi Leg Hound.

Some of the residents of Okebourne have disclosed their fear and it diminishes them.

They are human apparently.

Live long and contribute to satellite services.
Stick around Alain, your inoffensive wit would be a breath of fresh air on these comment pages.
[quote][p][bold]Alain Menai[/bold] wrote: Dearest Amberflame, Thank you. I really appreciate your cognisance of my pathetic attempt at drawing some levity to this serious and contentious debate. My beloved partner has a saying. ' If you can't say anything nice.....then shut the feck up'. I tend to ignore her until her Mother says it too. That is maffematicks aparrently and some psychology. (Fx2 > m = 0). = counselling. I adore my partner. But. Strangely enough not her mother. The Universe tells me that there is probably a maffematical formula to describe this too. (Male> Broomstick+ 0). My aforementioned adorable person works for very young disabled children. I am constantly awestruck by her capacity for caring. and..... Then coming home and caring for Clever one, Angelic one, Dog, and Missisippi Leg Hound. Some of the residents of Okebourne have disclosed their fear and it diminishes them. They are human apparently. Live long and contribute to satellite services.[/p][/quote]Stick around Alain, your inoffensive wit would be a breath of fresh air on these comment pages. Amberflame
  • Score: 8

2:41pm Thu 31 Jul 14

pipscare says...

Oldtownmum wrote:
EastleazeRed wrote:
Oldtownmum wrote:
To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours
Well lets hope you get looked after in your old age oldtownmum , because I wouldn't want a bigoted grumpy old woman living in a care home anywhere near me.
It's not bigoted, it's realism. A small quiet estate is not the place for Autistic adults. These adults are living away from their families for a reason - they are very difficult to manage in a normal home environment. You can criticise me all you like, but I have experience of similar situations, you don't.
are you so thick that you dont see that this is not because they are difficult to manage at home but giving them the independence and freedom that you take for granted .
i suppose you'd also like it if they walked in the gutter so you can have the footpath to yourself .
I so pity people like you ignorent and blinkered
[quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EastleazeRed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours[/p][/quote]Well lets hope you get looked after in your old age oldtownmum , because I wouldn't want a bigoted grumpy old woman living in a care home anywhere near me.[/p][/quote]It's not bigoted, it's realism. A small quiet estate is not the place for Autistic adults. These adults are living away from their families for a reason - they are very difficult to manage in a normal home environment. You can criticise me all you like, but I have experience of similar situations, you don't.[/p][/quote]are you so thick that you dont see that this is not because they are difficult to manage at home but giving them the independence and freedom that you take for granted . i suppose you'd also like it if they walked in the gutter so you can have the footpath to yourself . I so pity people like you ignorent and blinkered pipscare
  • Score: 10

2:44pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
woolster0 wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.
you tw@t
Would you like 6 autistic people next door to you?
I'm all for helping them but wouldn't want them in that number next door to me. That is all.
Lots of vitriol and abuse for that from many on here. Oh well I'll cope. 😃
Personally no I wouldnt care and if my home was detached as they are in oakbourne park I would care even less.
As part of my job we spend a few weeks a year with people of various ages and disabilities I dont view it as anything different to my normal day except we need some extra equipment.

To a certain degree I can understand your fears but I would suggest a house with people dealing with autism have the same potential to cause a disturbance as any other household.
As they will have carer visits and doctors etc...there is probably less chance of parties or reving modded cars at all hours or even groups of kids hanging about causing anti social disturbances.

from your previous comments I do not think you are a bad person you have just been honest. Well done for that shocking lack of it on here
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woolster0[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.[/p][/quote]you tw@t[/p][/quote]Would you like 6 autistic people next door to you? I'm all for helping them but wouldn't want them in that number next door to me. That is all. Lots of vitriol and abuse for that from many on here. Oh well I'll cope. 😃[/p][/quote]Personally no I wouldnt care and if my home was detached as they are in oakbourne park I would care even less. As part of my job we spend a few weeks a year with people of various ages and disabilities I dont view it as anything different to my normal day except we need some extra equipment. To a certain degree I can understand your fears but I would suggest a house with people dealing with autism have the same potential to cause a disturbance as any other household. As they will have carer visits and doctors etc...there is probably less chance of parties or reving modded cars at all hours or even groups of kids hanging about causing anti social disturbances. from your previous comments I do not think you are a bad person you have just been honest. Well done for that shocking lack of it on here Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -2

2:50pm Thu 31 Jul 14

pipscare says...

Oldtownmum wrote:
You slug wrote:
What a horrible, miserable looking bunch of NIMBYs. I’d say those who were going to live there have just had a lucky escape, imagine living amongst that lot.
As the father of a 20 year old autistic daughter currently living in supported living in Covingham with the White Horse Care Trust I can’t praise these organisations enough. The idea is not to put people who need help in big institutions like we used to do but to try and make their lives as normal as possible…..just like those as fortunate as ourselves. The neighbours where my daughter lives were a bit apprehensive at first but very quickly realised that they had nothing to worry about because believe it or not, people with autism are normal people which is more than can be said for a couple of posters on here.
Good luck to Autism Care and I hope you find somewhere much more suitable.

Oldtownmum you have no idea how offensive you are, I hope if ever you need help they stick you in a field where you can’t disturb anyone else and feed you with a catapult!!
I've not been offensive, I've been truthful. I've not said autistic people don't deserve to attempt to live a normal life, I've said that on a housing estate is not the right place. It would be very interesting to see how many of you would willingly have the house next door to you occupied by adults with Learning disabilities. Hmmm, though not.
I have 16 pan disabled people living next door to me and would not change it for anything they are some of the most caring and well behaved people i know .
yes they have some issues but dont we all and theirs is'nt by choice
[quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You slug[/bold] wrote: What a horrible, miserable looking bunch of NIMBYs. I’d say those who were going to live there have just had a lucky escape, imagine living amongst that lot. As the father of a 20 year old autistic daughter currently living in supported living in Covingham with the White Horse Care Trust I can’t praise these organisations enough. The idea is not to put people who need help in big institutions like we used to do but to try and make their lives as normal as possible…..just like those as fortunate as ourselves. The neighbours where my daughter lives were a bit apprehensive at first but very quickly realised that they had nothing to worry about because believe it or not, people with autism are normal people which is more than can be said for a couple of posters on here. Good luck to Autism Care and I hope you find somewhere much more suitable. Oldtownmum you have no idea how offensive you are, I hope if ever you need help they stick you in a field where you can’t disturb anyone else and feed you with a catapult!![/p][/quote]I've not been offensive, I've been truthful. I've not said autistic people don't deserve to attempt to live a normal life, I've said that on a housing estate is not the right place. It would be very interesting to see how many of you would willingly have the house next door to you occupied by adults with Learning disabilities. Hmmm, though not.[/p][/quote]I have 16 pan disabled people living next door to me and would not change it for anything they are some of the most caring and well behaved people i know . yes they have some issues but dont we all and theirs is'nt by choice pipscare
  • Score: 9

2:50pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Amberflame says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
woolster0 wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.
you tw@t
Would you like 6 autistic people next door to you?
I'm all for helping them but wouldn't want them in that number next door to me. That is all.
Lots of vitriol and abuse for that from many on here. Oh well I'll cope. 😃
I don't know why but I feel the need to apologise on your behalf (as a member of the human race) for your ignorance and shameful attitude towards people with Autism. If you and those like you, would just educate yourselves, perhaps attend a workshop on this matter, you would be the better for it.

No need to thank me!
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woolster0[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.[/p][/quote]you tw@t[/p][/quote]Would you like 6 autistic people next door to you? I'm all for helping them but wouldn't want them in that number next door to me. That is all. Lots of vitriol and abuse for that from many on here. Oh well I'll cope. 😃[/p][/quote]I don't know why but I feel the need to apologise on your behalf (as a member of the human race) for your ignorance and shameful attitude towards people with Autism. If you and those like you, would just educate yourselves, perhaps attend a workshop on this matter, you would be the better for it. No need to thank me! Amberflame
  • Score: 2

2:51pm Thu 31 Jul 14

aspieman says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
woolster0 wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.
you tw@t
Would you like 6 autistic people next door to you?
I'm all for helping them but wouldn't want them in that number next door to me. That is all.
Lots of vitriol and abuse for that from many on here. Oh well I'll cope. 😃
I'm autistic and so are my 2 daughters, Suppose you wouldn't want us next door? People with autism are very honest and don't like breaking the law, I just hope that you don't get some criminal next door or noisy neighbours who like to party all night long, You are being very discriminative and I hope karma serves you a good hand so you can reflect on your attitude and learn a bit more in life and be more accepting to people from different walks in life rather then being so judgemental and non accepting of those people that you have not even met before. Have a good day Sir/Madam.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woolster0[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.[/p][/quote]you tw@t[/p][/quote]Would you like 6 autistic people next door to you? I'm all for helping them but wouldn't want them in that number next door to me. That is all. Lots of vitriol and abuse for that from many on here. Oh well I'll cope. 😃[/p][/quote]I'm autistic and so are my 2 daughters, Suppose you wouldn't want us next door? People with autism are very honest and don't like breaking the law, I just hope that you don't get some criminal next door or noisy neighbours who like to party all night long, You are being very discriminative and I hope karma serves you a good hand so you can reflect on your attitude and learn a bit more in life and be more accepting to people from different walks in life rather then being so judgemental and non accepting of those people that you have not even met before. Have a good day Sir/Madam. aspieman
  • Score: 10

2:54pm Thu 31 Jul 14

pipscare says...

Oldtownmum wrote:
South Stand wrote:
Oldtownmum wrote:
EastleazeRed wrote:
Oldtownmum wrote:
To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours
Well lets hope you get looked after in your old age oldtownmum , because I wouldn't want a bigoted grumpy old woman living in a care home anywhere near me.
It's not bigoted, it's realism. A small quiet estate is not the place for Autistic adults. These adults are living away from their families for a reason - they are very difficult to manage in a normal home environment. You can criticise me all you like, but I have experience of similar situations, you don't.
So where would you put them then, Siberia?
The care home at Brinkworth is in an ideal setting; quiet, away from hustle and bustle and not too difficult to get to. Same goes for a large property on outskirts of Purton, Wanborough etc. I'm sure the Autistic people themselves wouldn't want to be on a noisy estate with cars, people, dogs etc.... For the last time, I'm not saying banish them, I'm saying a housing estate isn't the right place and it's not fair on current residents or the people themselves
you say you dont want to banish them but dont want them on your doorstep but can live miles from society is that not a double standard and banishing them anyway
[quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]South Stand[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EastleazeRed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours[/p][/quote]Well lets hope you get looked after in your old age oldtownmum , because I wouldn't want a bigoted grumpy old woman living in a care home anywhere near me.[/p][/quote]It's not bigoted, it's realism. A small quiet estate is not the place for Autistic adults. These adults are living away from their families for a reason - they are very difficult to manage in a normal home environment. You can criticise me all you like, but I have experience of similar situations, you don't.[/p][/quote]So where would you put them then, Siberia?[/p][/quote]The care home at Brinkworth is in an ideal setting; quiet, away from hustle and bustle and not too difficult to get to. Same goes for a large property on outskirts of Purton, Wanborough etc. I'm sure the Autistic people themselves wouldn't want to be on a noisy estate with cars, people, dogs etc.... For the last time, I'm not saying banish them, I'm saying a housing estate isn't the right place and it's not fair on current residents or the people themselves[/p][/quote]you say you dont want to banish them but dont want them on your doorstep but can live miles from society is that not a double standard and banishing them anyway pipscare
  • Score: 5

3:04pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Davey Gravey says...

I think people are getting offended and assuming more than has been said-meant.
I wouldn't bat an eyelid at a family with autistic members of them moving in next door. It wouldn't bother me st all. As I've already mentioned my dad has autism, albeit not severely.
Having a care home for multiple people with autism is different to a normal family though and is something I wouldn't want next door to me. That is all. Why such a song and dance has been made of that I do not know. Too much has been made of it and too much offence clearly taken.
I think people are getting offended and assuming more than has been said-meant. I wouldn't bat an eyelid at a family with autistic members of them moving in next door. It wouldn't bother me st all. As I've already mentioned my dad has autism, albeit not severely. Having a care home for multiple people with autism is different to a normal family though and is something I wouldn't want next door to me. That is all. Why such a song and dance has been made of that I do not know. Too much has been made of it and too much offence clearly taken. Davey Gravey
  • Score: -5

3:11pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Sandor Clegane says...

Badgersgetabadname wrote:
Sandor Clegane wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
Sandor Clegane wrote:
johntomjo wrote:
**** the lot of you against this ,I hope you all die alone in and old peoples home ,neglected and abused ....I would allow them next door
That's the contribution from the more 'caring' side of the debate.

Hmm.
You are oldtownmum aret you?
If not you two should get together.
Of course I'm not oldtownmum. I realise you and your cronies believe I'm about 89 different people on here but, as ever, you're entirely incorrect. Just because the majority hold different opinions to you doesn't mean I'm all of them. If you're really so dim as not to be able to notice very obviously different writing styles, maybe time to brush up with some English lessons over the summer.

My point was that it's pretty stupid to attack those who do not understand and are indifferent towards autistic people by hoping they 'all die alone, neglected and abused'.

I know you're a bit 'different' but surely even you have just about enough intelligence to recognise that.
Well done you kept your word for two days Mr "I shall no longer engage with you"
You councilor have been caught out a number of times because of your inflexible right wing arguments. I have asked you before what you expected to get out of it and you launched a verbal attack on me which led to one of your accounts (channel X) being removed.
The time you spend on comments here is only comparable to the inability of you are your council cronies.
89 log ons is an exaggeration but I would say there are 3/4 honestly dont care but it tickles me to see you reply to your own posts.

I posted a joke about you and oldtownmum the day before you said you would no longer contact me. So once again you have failed to live up to your word,
You supported ex mayor Nick Martin in his opinion to have the disabled sterilized, when the topic was families in crisis I explained that many services (military) people needed assistance you said parents should be locked up for the actions of their kids. Basically there is a litany of uncaring, selfish and right wing rhetoric from you.

I did not make the comment about people dying alone, nobody deserves that. Yet you chose to attempt to tie it to me.
I take it by your comment "youre a bit different" you are referring to my mental health. You are aware of my mental health because I sympathised with an article in which a lady had suffered awful brutality in her own home. I fail to see why that is your go to insult for me.

Now then please tell me again how you are not engaging with me in comments.
Which is another thing you have failed at.
It's got nothing to do with your mental health issues.

It's got everything to do with your bizarre posting style.

I told you I was not going to engage with you on a DIFFERENT thread, because it was completely pointless.

Although you're still insisting I'm a councillor (I'm not) and making up other lies about me, I will definitely continue to point out your numerous errors on other threads.

Thanks for yet another of your increasingly strange rants, though. Though not always easy to actually make any sense of, they do provide a chuckle.
[quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sandor Clegane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sandor Clegane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johntomjo[/bold] wrote: **** the lot of you against this ,I hope you all die alone in and old peoples home ,neglected and abused ....I would allow them next door[/p][/quote]That's the contribution from the more 'caring' side of the debate. Hmm.[/p][/quote]You are oldtownmum aret you? If not you two should get together.[/p][/quote]Of course I'm not oldtownmum. I realise you and your cronies believe I'm about 89 different people on here but, as ever, you're entirely incorrect. Just because the majority hold different opinions to you doesn't mean I'm all of them. If you're really so dim as not to be able to notice very obviously different writing styles, maybe time to brush up with some English lessons over the summer. My point was that it's pretty stupid to attack those who do not understand and are indifferent towards autistic people by hoping they 'all die alone, neglected and abused'. I know you're a bit 'different' but surely even you have just about enough intelligence to recognise that.[/p][/quote]Well done you kept your word for two days Mr "I shall no longer engage with you" You councilor have been caught out a number of times because of your inflexible right wing arguments. I have asked you before what you expected to get out of it and you launched a verbal attack on me which led to one of your accounts (channel X) being removed. The time you spend on comments here is only comparable to the inability of you are your council cronies. 89 log ons is an exaggeration but I would say there are 3/4 honestly dont care but it tickles me to see you reply to your own posts. I posted a joke about you and oldtownmum the day before you said you would no longer contact me. So once again you have failed to live up to your word, You supported ex mayor Nick Martin in his opinion to have the disabled sterilized, when the topic was families in crisis I explained that many services (military) people needed assistance you said parents should be locked up for the actions of their kids. Basically there is a litany of uncaring, selfish and right wing rhetoric from you. I did not make the comment about people dying alone, nobody deserves that. Yet you chose to attempt to tie it to me. I take it by your comment "youre a bit different" you are referring to my mental health. You are aware of my mental health because I sympathised with an article in which a lady had suffered awful brutality in her own home. I fail to see why that is your go to insult for me. Now then please tell me again how you are not engaging with me in comments. Which is another thing you have failed at.[/p][/quote]It's got nothing to do with your mental health issues. It's got everything to do with your bizarre posting style. I told you I was not going to engage with you on a DIFFERENT thread, because it was completely pointless. Although you're still insisting I'm a councillor (I'm not) and making up other lies about me, I will definitely continue to point out your numerous errors on other threads. Thanks for yet another of your increasingly strange rants, though. Though not always easy to actually make any sense of, they do provide a chuckle. Sandor Clegane
  • Score: 2

3:42pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Davey Gravey says...

aspieman wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
woolster0 wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.
you tw@t
Would you like 6 autistic people next door to you?
I'm all for helping them but wouldn't want them in that number next door to me. That is all.
Lots of vitriol and abuse for that from many on here. Oh well I'll cope. 😃
I'm autistic and so are my 2 daughters, Suppose you wouldn't want us next door? People with autism are very honest and don't like breaking the law, I just hope that you don't get some criminal next door or noisy neighbours who like to party all night long, You are being very discriminative and I hope karma serves you a good hand so you can reflect on your attitude and learn a bit more in life and be more accepting to people from different walks in life rather then being so judgemental and non accepting of those people that you have not even met before. Have a good day Sir/Madam.
Wouldnt mind at all. Wishing bad karma on others after missing the point isn't nice though. people are wishing I'll apon others which is worse than not wanting a care home next door in my opinion. I'll refrain from wishing I'll on people who have a got me wrong and had a pop as I'm better than that and not bitter. 😃
[quote][p][bold]aspieman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]woolster0[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.[/p][/quote]you tw@t[/p][/quote]Would you like 6 autistic people next door to you? I'm all for helping them but wouldn't want them in that number next door to me. That is all. Lots of vitriol and abuse for that from many on here. Oh well I'll cope. 😃[/p][/quote]I'm autistic and so are my 2 daughters, Suppose you wouldn't want us next door? People with autism are very honest and don't like breaking the law, I just hope that you don't get some criminal next door or noisy neighbours who like to party all night long, You are being very discriminative and I hope karma serves you a good hand so you can reflect on your attitude and learn a bit more in life and be more accepting to people from different walks in life rather then being so judgemental and non accepting of those people that you have not even met before. Have a good day Sir/Madam.[/p][/quote]Wouldnt mind at all. Wishing bad karma on others after missing the point isn't nice though. people are wishing I'll apon others which is worse than not wanting a care home next door in my opinion. I'll refrain from wishing I'll on people who have a got me wrong and had a pop as I'm better than that and not bitter. 😃 Davey Gravey
  • Score: -6

3:51pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Oldtownmum says...

Wow, there are some very twisted knickers on here!! You'd think someone had advocated the drowning of puppies. What a huge fuss over one or two people daring to have an opinion. The mock outrage is ludicrous, and as for the moron threatening to drive over to the estate..... Luckily his menacing and intimidating comment has now been removed.

Maybe instead of spewing nasty vitriol towards people merely giving their views, you could all go and do some Autism Awareness charity work. I myself know enough about it, hence my personal views. Final comment :-)
Wow, there are some very twisted knickers on here!! You'd think someone had advocated the drowning of puppies. What a huge fuss over one or two people daring to have an opinion. The mock outrage is ludicrous, and as for the moron threatening to drive over to the estate..... Luckily his menacing and intimidating comment has now been removed. Maybe instead of spewing nasty vitriol towards people merely giving their views, you could all go and do some Autism Awareness charity work. I myself know enough about it, hence my personal views. Final comment :-) Oldtownmum
  • Score: -5

3:52pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Sandor Clegane wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
Sandor Clegane wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
Sandor Clegane wrote:
johntomjo wrote:
**** the lot of you against this ,I hope you all die alone in and old peoples home ,neglected and abused ....I would allow them next door
That's the contribution from the more 'caring' side of the debate.

Hmm.
You are oldtownmum aret you?
If not you two should get together.
Of course I'm not oldtownmum. I realise you and your cronies believe I'm about 89 different people on here but, as ever, you're entirely incorrect. Just because the majority hold different opinions to you doesn't mean I'm all of them. If you're really so dim as not to be able to notice very obviously different writing styles, maybe time to brush up with some English lessons over the summer.

My point was that it's pretty stupid to attack those who do not understand and are indifferent towards autistic people by hoping they 'all die alone, neglected and abused'.

I know you're a bit 'different' but surely even you have just about enough intelligence to recognise that.
Well done you kept your word for two days Mr "I shall no longer engage with you"
You councilor have been caught out a number of times because of your inflexible right wing arguments. I have asked you before what you expected to get out of it and you launched a verbal attack on me which led to one of your accounts (channel X) being removed.
The time you spend on comments here is only comparable to the inability of you are your council cronies.
89 log ons is an exaggeration but I would say there are 3/4 honestly dont care but it tickles me to see you reply to your own posts.

I posted a joke about you and oldtownmum the day before you said you would no longer contact me. So once again you have failed to live up to your word,
You supported ex mayor Nick Martin in his opinion to have the disabled sterilized, when the topic was families in crisis I explained that many services (military) people needed assistance you said parents should be locked up for the actions of their kids. Basically there is a litany of uncaring, selfish and right wing rhetoric from you.

I did not make the comment about people dying alone, nobody deserves that. Yet you chose to attempt to tie it to me.
I take it by your comment "youre a bit different" you are referring to my mental health. You are aware of my mental health because I sympathised with an article in which a lady had suffered awful brutality in her own home. I fail to see why that is your go to insult for me.

Now then please tell me again how you are not engaging with me in comments.
Which is another thing you have failed at.
It's got nothing to do with your mental health issues.

It's got everything to do with your bizarre posting style.

I told you I was not going to engage with you on a DIFFERENT thread, because it was completely pointless.

Although you're still insisting I'm a councillor (I'm not) and making up other lies about me, I will definitely continue to point out your numerous errors on other threads.

Thanks for yet another of your increasingly strange rants, though. Though not always easy to actually make any sense of, they do provide a chuckle.
Are you stating that you were not previously using the name ChannelX?
If you dont understand I can use smaller words. Its ok there is a thread about bus lanes now you should be in your element....All that life experience.
So you only refuse to engage on certain topics?
That wasnt what you said though was it?

To quote you "I will not be engaging you further as it's clearly completely pointless"
Nothing specific about topic, I know you like to U turn although its been a while since you claim you account was cloned etc...
OK I will stop reminding people you are a councilor.
Please feel free to call me names again it would be a massive belly laugh to see you get another account banned.

Now back to topic (I know you like to talk about yourself) I am pleased to see so many people come out in support of these young people striving for independence.
Potentially young people living with autism could cause noise, potentially an aspiring DJ could move in and have booming music....Potentially a group of people learning the drums could move in.....?
Really hope a suitable house is found soon.

I think most people view the situation as bullying on the part of the residents which is why some emotions are so inflamed.
[quote][p][bold]Sandor Clegane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sandor Clegane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sandor Clegane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johntomjo[/bold] wrote: **** the lot of you against this ,I hope you all die alone in and old peoples home ,neglected and abused ....I would allow them next door[/p][/quote]That's the contribution from the more 'caring' side of the debate. Hmm.[/p][/quote]You are oldtownmum aret you? If not you two should get together.[/p][/quote]Of course I'm not oldtownmum. I realise you and your cronies believe I'm about 89 different people on here but, as ever, you're entirely incorrect. Just because the majority hold different opinions to you doesn't mean I'm all of them. If you're really so dim as not to be able to notice very obviously different writing styles, maybe time to brush up with some English lessons over the summer. My point was that it's pretty stupid to attack those who do not understand and are indifferent towards autistic people by hoping they 'all die alone, neglected and abused'. I know you're a bit 'different' but surely even you have just about enough intelligence to recognise that.[/p][/quote]Well done you kept your word for two days Mr "I shall no longer engage with you" You councilor have been caught out a number of times because of your inflexible right wing arguments. I have asked you before what you expected to get out of it and you launched a verbal attack on me which led to one of your accounts (channel X) being removed. The time you spend on comments here is only comparable to the inability of you are your council cronies. 89 log ons is an exaggeration but I would say there are 3/4 honestly dont care but it tickles me to see you reply to your own posts. I posted a joke about you and oldtownmum the day before you said you would no longer contact me. So once again you have failed to live up to your word, You supported ex mayor Nick Martin in his opinion to have the disabled sterilized, when the topic was families in crisis I explained that many services (military) people needed assistance you said parents should be locked up for the actions of their kids. Basically there is a litany of uncaring, selfish and right wing rhetoric from you. I did not make the comment about people dying alone, nobody deserves that. Yet you chose to attempt to tie it to me. I take it by your comment "youre a bit different" you are referring to my mental health. You are aware of my mental health because I sympathised with an article in which a lady had suffered awful brutality in her own home. I fail to see why that is your go to insult for me. Now then please tell me again how you are not engaging with me in comments. Which is another thing you have failed at.[/p][/quote]It's got nothing to do with your mental health issues. It's got everything to do with your bizarre posting style. I told you I was not going to engage with you on a DIFFERENT thread, because it was completely pointless. Although you're still insisting I'm a councillor (I'm not) and making up other lies about me, I will definitely continue to point out your numerous errors on other threads. Thanks for yet another of your increasingly strange rants, though. Though not always easy to actually make any sense of, they do provide a chuckle.[/p][/quote]Are you stating that you were not previously using the name ChannelX? If you dont understand I can use smaller words. Its ok there is a thread about bus lanes now you should be in your element....All that life experience. So you only refuse to engage on certain topics? That wasnt what you said though was it? To quote you "I will not be engaging you further as it's clearly completely pointless" Nothing specific about topic, I know you like to U turn although its been a while since you claim you account was cloned etc... OK I will stop reminding people you are a councilor. Please feel free to call me names again it would be a massive belly laugh to see you get another account banned. Now back to topic (I know you like to talk about yourself) I am pleased to see so many people come out in support of these young people striving for independence. Potentially young people living with autism could cause noise, potentially an aspiring DJ could move in and have booming music....Potentially a group of people learning the drums could move in.....? Really hope a suitable house is found soon. I think most people view the situation as bullying on the part of the residents which is why some emotions are so inflamed. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -6

4:01pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Oldtownmum wrote:
Wow, there are some very twisted knickers on here!! You'd think someone had advocated the drowning of puppies. What a huge fuss over one or two people daring to have an opinion. The mock outrage is ludicrous, and as for the moron threatening to drive over to the estate..... Luckily his menacing and intimidating comment has now been removed.

Maybe instead of spewing nasty vitriol towards people merely giving their views, you could all go and do some Autism Awareness charity work. I myself know enough about it, hence my personal views. Final comment :-)
Its your humble nature people just love.
Or possibly that you see Katie Hopkins as something people should pay attention to.
Or maybe people just see you as a deluded snob?
I dont know just asking the question.
[quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: Wow, there are some very twisted knickers on here!! You'd think someone had advocated the drowning of puppies. What a huge fuss over one or two people daring to have an opinion. The mock outrage is ludicrous, and as for the moron threatening to drive over to the estate..... Luckily his menacing and intimidating comment has now been removed. Maybe instead of spewing nasty vitriol towards people merely giving their views, you could all go and do some Autism Awareness charity work. I myself know enough about it, hence my personal views. Final comment :-)[/p][/quote]Its your humble nature people just love. Or possibly that you see Katie Hopkins as something people should pay attention to. Or maybe people just see you as a deluded snob? I dont know just asking the question. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: 4

4:08pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Sandor Clegane says...

Badgersgetabadname wrote:
Sandor Clegane wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
Sandor Clegane wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
Sandor Clegane wrote:
johntomjo wrote:
**** the lot of you against this ,I hope you all die alone in and old peoples home ,neglected and abused ....I would allow them next door
That's the contribution from the more 'caring' side of the debate.

Hmm.
You are oldtownmum aret you?
If not you two should get together.
Of course I'm not oldtownmum. I realise you and your cronies believe I'm about 89 different people on here but, as ever, you're entirely incorrect. Just because the majority hold different opinions to you doesn't mean I'm all of them. If you're really so dim as not to be able to notice very obviously different writing styles, maybe time to brush up with some English lessons over the summer.

My point was that it's pretty stupid to attack those who do not understand and are indifferent towards autistic people by hoping they 'all die alone, neglected and abused'.

I know you're a bit 'different' but surely even you have just about enough intelligence to recognise that.
Well done you kept your word for two days Mr "I shall no longer engage with you"
You councilor have been caught out a number of times because of your inflexible right wing arguments. I have asked you before what you expected to get out of it and you launched a verbal attack on me which led to one of your accounts (channel X) being removed.
The time you spend on comments here is only comparable to the inability of you are your council cronies.
89 log ons is an exaggeration but I would say there are 3/4 honestly dont care but it tickles me to see you reply to your own posts.

I posted a joke about you and oldtownmum the day before you said you would no longer contact me. So once again you have failed to live up to your word,
You supported ex mayor Nick Martin in his opinion to have the disabled sterilized, when the topic was families in crisis I explained that many services (military) people needed assistance you said parents should be locked up for the actions of their kids. Basically there is a litany of uncaring, selfish and right wing rhetoric from you.

I did not make the comment about people dying alone, nobody deserves that. Yet you chose to attempt to tie it to me.
I take it by your comment "youre a bit different" you are referring to my mental health. You are aware of my mental health because I sympathised with an article in which a lady had suffered awful brutality in her own home. I fail to see why that is your go to insult for me.

Now then please tell me again how you are not engaging with me in comments.
Which is another thing you have failed at.
It's got nothing to do with your mental health issues.

It's got everything to do with your bizarre posting style.

I told you I was not going to engage with you on a DIFFERENT thread, because it was completely pointless.

Although you're still insisting I'm a councillor (I'm not) and making up other lies about me, I will definitely continue to point out your numerous errors on other threads.

Thanks for yet another of your increasingly strange rants, though. Though not always easy to actually make any sense of, they do provide a chuckle.
Are you stating that you were not previously using the name ChannelX?
If you dont understand I can use smaller words. Its ok there is a thread about bus lanes now you should be in your element....All that life experience.
So you only refuse to engage on certain topics?
That wasnt what you said though was it?

To quote you "I will not be engaging you further as it's clearly completely pointless"
Nothing specific about topic, I know you like to U turn although its been a while since you claim you account was cloned etc...
OK I will stop reminding people you are a councilor.
Please feel free to call me names again it would be a massive belly laugh to see you get another account banned.

Now back to topic (I know you like to talk about yourself) I am pleased to see so many people come out in support of these young people striving for independence.
Potentially young people living with autism could cause noise, potentially an aspiring DJ could move in and have booming music....Potentially a group of people learning the drums could move in.....?
Really hope a suitable house is found soon.

I think most people view the situation as bullying on the part of the residents which is why some emotions are so inflamed.
TL; DR
[quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sandor Clegane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sandor Clegane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sandor Clegane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johntomjo[/bold] wrote: **** the lot of you against this ,I hope you all die alone in and old peoples home ,neglected and abused ....I would allow them next door[/p][/quote]That's the contribution from the more 'caring' side of the debate. Hmm.[/p][/quote]You are oldtownmum aret you? If not you two should get together.[/p][/quote]Of course I'm not oldtownmum. I realise you and your cronies believe I'm about 89 different people on here but, as ever, you're entirely incorrect. Just because the majority hold different opinions to you doesn't mean I'm all of them. If you're really so dim as not to be able to notice very obviously different writing styles, maybe time to brush up with some English lessons over the summer. My point was that it's pretty stupid to attack those who do not understand and are indifferent towards autistic people by hoping they 'all die alone, neglected and abused'. I know you're a bit 'different' but surely even you have just about enough intelligence to recognise that.[/p][/quote]Well done you kept your word for two days Mr "I shall no longer engage with you" You councilor have been caught out a number of times because of your inflexible right wing arguments. I have asked you before what you expected to get out of it and you launched a verbal attack on me which led to one of your accounts (channel X) being removed. The time you spend on comments here is only comparable to the inability of you are your council cronies. 89 log ons is an exaggeration but I would say there are 3/4 honestly dont care but it tickles me to see you reply to your own posts. I posted a joke about you and oldtownmum the day before you said you would no longer contact me. So once again you have failed to live up to your word, You supported ex mayor Nick Martin in his opinion to have the disabled sterilized, when the topic was families in crisis I explained that many services (military) people needed assistance you said parents should be locked up for the actions of their kids. Basically there is a litany of uncaring, selfish and right wing rhetoric from you. I did not make the comment about people dying alone, nobody deserves that. Yet you chose to attempt to tie it to me. I take it by your comment "youre a bit different" you are referring to my mental health. You are aware of my mental health because I sympathised with an article in which a lady had suffered awful brutality in her own home. I fail to see why that is your go to insult for me. Now then please tell me again how you are not engaging with me in comments. Which is another thing you have failed at.[/p][/quote]It's got nothing to do with your mental health issues. It's got everything to do with your bizarre posting style. I told you I was not going to engage with you on a DIFFERENT thread, because it was completely pointless. Although you're still insisting I'm a councillor (I'm not) and making up other lies about me, I will definitely continue to point out your numerous errors on other threads. Thanks for yet another of your increasingly strange rants, though. Though not always easy to actually make any sense of, they do provide a chuckle.[/p][/quote]Are you stating that you were not previously using the name ChannelX? If you dont understand I can use smaller words. Its ok there is a thread about bus lanes now you should be in your element....All that life experience. So you only refuse to engage on certain topics? That wasnt what you said though was it? To quote you "I will not be engaging you further as it's clearly completely pointless" Nothing specific about topic, I know you like to U turn although its been a while since you claim you account was cloned etc... OK I will stop reminding people you are a councilor. Please feel free to call me names again it would be a massive belly laugh to see you get another account banned. Now back to topic (I know you like to talk about yourself) I am pleased to see so many people come out in support of these young people striving for independence. Potentially young people living with autism could cause noise, potentially an aspiring DJ could move in and have booming music....Potentially a group of people learning the drums could move in.....? Really hope a suitable house is found soon. I think most people view the situation as bullying on the part of the residents which is why some emotions are so inflamed.[/p][/quote]TL; DR Sandor Clegane
  • Score: 2

4:28pm Thu 31 Jul 14

johntomjo says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
johntomjo wrote:
look out for me today in your nice little cup de **** ...I will be in the green estate
Maybe the police should be informed about your threats etc. A potential breach of the peace- alarm harrasement or distress I'd wager.
Plenty of bitterness and I'll feeling towards people who have done no wrong. Says more about those who say this than anything else. Maybe karma has already paid you a visit?
ah diddums ...I do believe its not a private road ,not my fault my sat nav mis guided me
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johntomjo[/bold] wrote: look out for me today in your nice little cup de **** ...I will be in the green estate[/p][/quote]Maybe the police should be informed about your threats etc. A potential breach of the peace- alarm harrasement or distress I'd wager. Plenty of bitterness and I'll feeling towards people who have done no wrong. Says more about those who say this than anything else. Maybe karma has already paid you a visit?[/p][/quote]ah diddums ...I do believe its not a private road ,not my fault my sat nav mis guided me johntomjo
  • Score: 2

4:32pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

@Sandor Clegane bless you are even recycling the things I say to you nice use of modern term though.
Consistent failure on your part well done.

So you did or didnt previously sign on as ChannelX?
@Sandor Clegane bless you are even recycling the things I say to you nice use of modern term though. Consistent failure on your part well done. So you did or didnt previously sign on as ChannelX? Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -2

4:54pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Sandor Clegane says...

Badgersgetabadname wrote:
@Sandor Clegane bless you are even recycling the things I say to you nice use of modern term though.
Consistent failure on your part well done.

So you did or didnt previously sign on as ChannelX?
AMF
[quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: @Sandor Clegane bless you are even recycling the things I say to you nice use of modern term though. Consistent failure on your part well done. So you did or didnt previously sign on as ChannelX?[/p][/quote]AMF Sandor Clegane
  • Score: 1

5:11pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Davey Gravey says...

johntomjo wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
johntomjo wrote:
look out for me today in your nice little cup de **** ...I will be in the green estate
Maybe the police should be informed about your threats etc. A potential breach of the peace- alarm harrasement or distress I'd wager.
Plenty of bitterness and I'll feeling towards people who have done no wrong. Says more about those who say this than anything else. Maybe karma has already paid you a visit?
ah diddums ...I do believe its not a private road ,not my fault my sat nav mis guided me
You've just come across as a bitter and nasty individual. As have a few others I might add. Full of abuse and anger. Have a nice day 😃
[quote][p][bold]johntomjo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johntomjo[/bold] wrote: look out for me today in your nice little cup de **** ...I will be in the green estate[/p][/quote]Maybe the police should be informed about your threats etc. A potential breach of the peace- alarm harrasement or distress I'd wager. Plenty of bitterness and I'll feeling towards people who have done no wrong. Says more about those who say this than anything else. Maybe karma has already paid you a visit?[/p][/quote]ah diddums ...I do believe its not a private road ,not my fault my sat nav mis guided me[/p][/quote]You've just come across as a bitter and nasty individual. As have a few others I might add. Full of abuse and anger. Have a nice day 😃 Davey Gravey
  • Score: 1

5:15pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Oldtownmum says...

johntomjo wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
johntomjo wrote:
look out for me today in your nice little cup de **** ...I will be in the green estate
Maybe the police should be informed about your threats etc. A potential breach of the peace- alarm harrasement or distress I'd wager.
Plenty of bitterness and I'll feeling towards people who have done no wrong. Says more about those who say this than anything else. Maybe karma has already paid you a visit?
ah diddums ...I do believe its not a private road ,not my fault my sat nav mis guided me
. You're obviously eaten up with issues.
[quote][p][bold]johntomjo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johntomjo[/bold] wrote: look out for me today in your nice little cup de **** ...I will be in the green estate[/p][/quote]Maybe the police should be informed about your threats etc. A potential breach of the peace- alarm harrasement or distress I'd wager. Plenty of bitterness and I'll feeling towards people who have done no wrong. Says more about those who say this than anything else. Maybe karma has already paid you a visit?[/p][/quote]ah diddums ...I do believe its not a private road ,not my fault my sat nav mis guided me[/p][/quote]. You're obviously eaten up with issues. Oldtownmum
  • Score: -3

5:18pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Sandor Clegane wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
@Sandor Clegane bless you are even recycling the things I say to you nice use of modern term though.
Consistent failure on your part well done.

So you did or didnt previously sign on as ChannelX?
AMF
As ever your ability to debate is second to none.
Is failure something you get used to? Just stick that bottom lip out.
[quote][p][bold]Sandor Clegane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: @Sandor Clegane bless you are even recycling the things I say to you nice use of modern term though. Consistent failure on your part well done. So you did or didnt previously sign on as ChannelX?[/p][/quote]AMF[/p][/quote]As ever your ability to debate is second to none. Is failure something you get used to? Just stick that bottom lip out. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -2

5:22pm Thu 31 Jul 14

johntomjo says...

no just hate bullying nimbies who have nothing better to do with their. life's

same thing happened with the protest against Honda's wind farm now almost all the surrounding fields are taken up with their solar farm ,with NO animals grazing
no just hate bullying nimbies who have nothing better to do with their. life's same thing happened with the protest against Honda's wind farm now almost all the surrounding fields are taken up with their solar farm ,with NO animals grazing johntomjo
  • Score: 2

5:25pm Thu 31 Jul 14

johntomjo says...

I think two people on here really need to get married unless they already are :-)
I think two people on here really need to get married unless they already are :-) johntomjo
  • Score: 0

5:55pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

johntomjo wrote:
no just hate bullying nimbies who have nothing better to do with their. life's

same thing happened with the protest against Honda's wind farm now almost all the surrounding fields are taken up with their solar farm ,with NO animals grazing
Follow the money on that one fella.
Who protested, who is involved with building????
[quote][p][bold]johntomjo[/bold] wrote: no just hate bullying nimbies who have nothing better to do with their. life's same thing happened with the protest against Honda's wind farm now almost all the surrounding fields are taken up with their solar farm ,with NO animals grazing[/p][/quote]Follow the money on that one fella. Who protested, who is involved with building???? Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: 1

6:26pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Wiltshirereader says...

The comments from Oldtownmum on this issue have reaffirmed my decision to ever bother reading or taking notice of her comments on here, I've only read them this time to see why so many readers are against her comments. Now I see it for myself. Her usual snobby selfish uncaring comments deserve all the backlash she gets. Oldtownmum: if you have nothing constructive to say then PLEASE DON'T POST YOUR NASTY COMMENTS, you're one of the most tiresome bigoted readers I've ever come across on here. If you bother to reply to this post be sure I will just ignore you - there's is nothing you could say that I would be remotely interested in or want to hear!

I hope a suitable home will be found where all will be treated with the love, care and respect they deserve and in case you're wondering, NO I wouldn't mind in the least if they lived near to me!
The comments from Oldtownmum on this issue have reaffirmed my decision to ever bother reading or taking notice of her comments on here, I've only read them this time to see why so many readers are against her comments. Now I see it for myself. Her usual snobby selfish uncaring comments deserve all the backlash she gets. Oldtownmum: if you have nothing constructive to say then PLEASE DON'T POST YOUR NASTY COMMENTS, you're one of the most tiresome bigoted readers I've ever come across on here. If you bother to reply to this post be sure I will just ignore you - there's is nothing you could say that I would be remotely interested in or want to hear! I hope a suitable home will be found where all will be treated with the love, care and respect they deserve and in case you're wondering, NO I wouldn't mind in the least if they lived near to me! Wiltshirereader
  • Score: 4

6:53pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Davey Gravey says...

Nobody seems to have picked up on by far the most offensive and downright nasty comment made. The one wishing loneliness, abuse and suffering has in fact at this point had at least 20 people give it the thumbs up. So caring and compassionate eh. Take a look at yourselves.
Nobody seems to have picked up on by far the most offensive and downright nasty comment made. The one wishing loneliness, abuse and suffering has in fact at this point had at least 20 people give it the thumbs up. So caring and compassionate eh. Take a look at yourselves. Davey Gravey
  • Score: -4

6:54pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Alain Menai says...

Hi Everybody,

whilst you lot have been shouting at each other, my autistic family and the dog have been sat on Chesil beach all day. Nobody complained about us once. Even when the dog was a complete tool towards a lovely Red Setter that came too close to us.

Our dog would not shut up,he barked constantly and got himself well wound up all for nothing. Which prompted me to resolve to check Adver comments on returning home to see if Mr D Gravey had been about........

Live long and whisper(Please)
Hi Everybody, whilst you lot have been shouting at each other, my autistic family and the dog have been sat on Chesil beach all day. Nobody complained about us once. Even when the dog was a complete tool towards a lovely Red Setter that came too close to us. Our dog would not shut up,he barked constantly and got himself well wound up all for nothing. Which prompted me to resolve to check Adver comments on returning home to see if Mr D Gravey had been about........ Live long and whisper(Please) Alain Menai
  • Score: 5

7:14pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Alain Menai wrote:
Hi Everybody,

whilst you lot have been shouting at each other, my autistic family and the dog have been sat on Chesil beach all day. Nobody complained about us once. Even when the dog was a complete tool towards a lovely Red Setter that came too close to us.

Our dog would not shut up,he barked constantly and got himself well wound up all for nothing. Which prompted me to resolve to check Adver comments on returning home to see if Mr D Gravey had been about........

Live long and whisper(Please)
Like you Mr its a sad story but hopefully some new people will make comments.
I like to bring this fishing keeps me entertained between bites.
Hope you all had a great day.
[quote][p][bold]Alain Menai[/bold] wrote: Hi Everybody, whilst you lot have been shouting at each other, my autistic family and the dog have been sat on Chesil beach all day. Nobody complained about us once. Even when the dog was a complete tool towards a lovely Red Setter that came too close to us. Our dog would not shut up,he barked constantly and got himself well wound up all for nothing. Which prompted me to resolve to check Adver comments on returning home to see if Mr D Gravey had been about........ Live long and whisper(Please)[/p][/quote]Like you Mr its a sad story but hopefully some new people will make comments. I like to bring this fishing keeps me entertained between bites. Hope you all had a great day. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: 0

7:18pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Amberflame says...

Oldtownmum wrote:
Wow, there are some very twisted knickers on here!! You'd think someone had advocated the drowning of puppies. What a huge fuss over one or two people daring to have an opinion. The mock outrage is ludicrous, and as for the moron threatening to drive over to the estate..... Luckily his menacing and intimidating comment has now been removed.

Maybe instead of spewing nasty vitriol towards people merely giving their views, you could all go and do some Autism Awareness charity work. I myself know enough about it, hence my personal views. Final comment :-)
Oldtownmum and Davey Gravey, sitting in a tree

K-I-S-S-I-N-G

Suck it up. I think you will find that most who have replied to you in a negative way do have awareness of Autism! I know I do. Hard to believe you have. Perhaps you were busy reading a Katie Hopkins article at the time and weren't paying attention at this Autism Awareness Charity event?

"Spewing nasty vitriol" hardly describes the stick you have received on here, I think it has been pretty tame to be honest. After all, these people are just giving their views!
[quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: Wow, there are some very twisted knickers on here!! You'd think someone had advocated the drowning of puppies. What a huge fuss over one or two people daring to have an opinion. The mock outrage is ludicrous, and as for the moron threatening to drive over to the estate..... Luckily his menacing and intimidating comment has now been removed. Maybe instead of spewing nasty vitriol towards people merely giving their views, you could all go and do some Autism Awareness charity work. I myself know enough about it, hence my personal views. Final comment :-)[/p][/quote]Oldtownmum and Davey Gravey, sitting in a tree K-I-S-S-I-N-G Suck it up. I think you will find that most who have replied to you in a negative way do have awareness of Autism! I know I do. Hard to believe you have. Perhaps you were busy reading a Katie Hopkins article at the time and weren't paying attention at this Autism Awareness Charity event? "Spewing nasty vitriol" hardly describes the stick you have received on here, I think it has been pretty tame to be honest. After all, these people are just giving their views! Amberflame
  • Score: 3

7:25pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Oldtownmum says...

Wiltshirereader wrote:
The comments from Oldtownmum on this issue have reaffirmed my decision to ever bother reading or taking notice of her comments on here, I've only read them this time to see why so many readers are against her comments. Now I see it for myself. Her usual snobby selfish uncaring comments deserve all the backlash she gets. Oldtownmum: if you have nothing constructive to say then PLEASE DON'T POST YOUR NASTY COMMENTS, you're one of the most tiresome bigoted readers I've ever come across on here. If you bother to reply to this post be sure I will just ignore you - there's is nothing you could say that I would be remotely interested in or want to hear!

I hope a suitable home will be found where all will be treated with the love, care and respect they deserve and in case you're wondering, NO I wouldn't mind in the least if they lived near to me!
;-) you're pretty judgemental yourself dear.

Maybe I see things in a different light as I'm not Swindon born and bred so have seen there's another world out there! I mostly get abuse for stating that Swindon needs more upmarket shops and that I'm not overly keen on benefits scroungers and chavs. Makes me a minority in this town sadly, which is why it's known as a 'joke' town, with no life, character or much going for it. It definitely won't be where I end my days, unlike 99% of the born and bred residents.

I think many indignant comments are from people who know nothing about Autism. If the home is for high functioning people then you probably would welcome them with open arms and not have much trouble. But if they're severely affected, god help you. Never mind, you'll discover that for yourself when you welcome them to be your neighbours with open arms! Be prepared for screaming, nudity and shouting at all hours.
[quote][p][bold]Wiltshirereader[/bold] wrote: The comments from Oldtownmum on this issue have reaffirmed my decision to ever bother reading or taking notice of her comments on here, I've only read them this time to see why so many readers are against her comments. Now I see it for myself. Her usual snobby selfish uncaring comments deserve all the backlash she gets. Oldtownmum: if you have nothing constructive to say then PLEASE DON'T POST YOUR NASTY COMMENTS, you're one of the most tiresome bigoted readers I've ever come across on here. If you bother to reply to this post be sure I will just ignore you - there's is nothing you could say that I would be remotely interested in or want to hear! I hope a suitable home will be found where all will be treated with the love, care and respect they deserve and in case you're wondering, NO I wouldn't mind in the least if they lived near to me![/p][/quote];-) you're pretty judgemental yourself dear. Maybe I see things in a different light as I'm not Swindon born and bred so have seen there's another world out there! I mostly get abuse for stating that Swindon needs more upmarket shops and that I'm not overly keen on benefits scroungers and chavs. Makes me a minority in this town sadly, which is why it's known as a 'joke' town, with no life, character or much going for it. It definitely won't be where I end my days, unlike 99% of the born and bred residents. I think many indignant comments are from people who know nothing about Autism. If the home is for high functioning people then you probably would welcome them with open arms and not have much trouble. But if they're severely affected, god help you. Never mind, you'll discover that for yourself when you welcome them to be your neighbours with open arms! Be prepared for screaming, nudity and shouting at all hours. Oldtownmum
  • Score: -13

7:27pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Oldtownmum says...

Amberflame wrote:
Oldtownmum wrote:
Wow, there are some very twisted knickers on here!! You'd think someone had advocated the drowning of puppies. What a huge fuss over one or two people daring to have an opinion. The mock outrage is ludicrous, and as for the moron threatening to drive over to the estate..... Luckily his menacing and intimidating comment has now been removed.

Maybe instead of spewing nasty vitriol towards people merely giving their views, you could all go and do some Autism Awareness charity work. I myself know enough about it, hence my personal views. Final comment :-)
Oldtownmum and Davey Gravey, sitting in a tree

K-I-S-S-I-N-G

Suck it up. I think you will find that most who have replied to you in a negative way do have awareness of Autism! I know I do. Hard to believe you have. Perhaps you were busy reading a Katie Hopkins article at the time and weren't paying attention at this Autism Awareness Charity event?

"Spewing nasty vitriol" hardly describes the stick you have received on here, I think it has been pretty tame to be honest. After all, these people are just giving their views!
;-)
[quote][p][bold]Amberflame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: Wow, there are some very twisted knickers on here!! You'd think someone had advocated the drowning of puppies. What a huge fuss over one or two people daring to have an opinion. The mock outrage is ludicrous, and as for the moron threatening to drive over to the estate..... Luckily his menacing and intimidating comment has now been removed. Maybe instead of spewing nasty vitriol towards people merely giving their views, you could all go and do some Autism Awareness charity work. I myself know enough about it, hence my personal views. Final comment :-)[/p][/quote]Oldtownmum and Davey Gravey, sitting in a tree K-I-S-S-I-N-G Suck it up. I think you will find that most who have replied to you in a negative way do have awareness of Autism! I know I do. Hard to believe you have. Perhaps you were busy reading a Katie Hopkins article at the time and weren't paying attention at this Autism Awareness Charity event? "Spewing nasty vitriol" hardly describes the stick you have received on here, I think it has been pretty tame to be honest. After all, these people are just giving their views![/p][/quote];-) Oldtownmum
  • Score: -4

7:32pm Thu 31 Jul 14

johntomjo says...

Badgersgetabadname wrote:
johntomjo wrote:
no just hate bullying nimbies who have nothing better to do with their. life's

same thing happened with the protest against Honda's wind farm now almost all the surrounding fields are taken up with their solar farm ,with NO animals grazing
Follow the money on that one fella.
Who protested, who is involved with building????
the nimbies protested and a few months after Honda gave up on the wind turbines ,the landowner started putting in solar panels 'to get paid by the national grid' next thing you know most of the surrounding fields were full and they closed the road for 'culvert' repairs ,only when I cycled down the road you could see the hole that was filled in ,going from the solar fields thru the allotments and into Honda ,amazing what back handers can do

perhaps if these cul de sac house owners were offered a bribe ,we wouldn't be discussing this !
[quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johntomjo[/bold] wrote: no just hate bullying nimbies who have nothing better to do with their. life's same thing happened with the protest against Honda's wind farm now almost all the surrounding fields are taken up with their solar farm ,with NO animals grazing[/p][/quote]Follow the money on that one fella. Who protested, who is involved with building????[/p][/quote]the nimbies protested and a few months after Honda gave up on the wind turbines ,the landowner started putting in solar panels 'to get paid by the national grid' next thing you know most of the surrounding fields were full and they closed the road for 'culvert' repairs ,only when I cycled down the road you could see the hole that was filled in ,going from the solar fields thru the allotments and into Honda ,amazing what back handers can do perhaps if these cul de sac house owners were offered a bribe ,we wouldn't be discussing this ! johntomjo
  • Score: -2

7:33pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

house on the hill wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
mumma77 wrote:
My 8yr son is autistic and also my husband, thank god we don't live in your area.To be blessed with a person in your family with a disability is the most heart warming and rewarding thing you could ever experience.
There are more and more children being diagnosed with autism every day, these children grow into adults with autism, get educated and don't fear something just because you don't understand it.
Great comment some lives will be enriched by the experience sadly others look at it as an excuse to claim additional payments and as you see as above some see it as an inconvenience.
There are different levels of autism so no the example of they are loud and violent is not true in all cases its a shame that gaps in knowledge become ignorant opinion.
We are in danger of becoming an uncaring society when we should be pulling together more and more people seem to be all about the "ME"....
I think the danger has long past and we are an uncaring, double standards society already. How many genuinely caring, open minded people do you know who would go out of their way to help or give up things for others if there wasn't something in it for them. I bet the number would be very small. We are now a "disposable" society in every aspect including other people! Sad but true.
Sorry house just saw this and you are right.
Personally I refuse to have toxicity in my life where I can change it so I am lucky the people directly involved with my life are kind and caring.
Totally agree with disposable society.
[quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mumma77[/bold] wrote: My 8yr son is autistic and also my husband, thank god we don't live in your area.To be blessed with a person in your family with a disability is the most heart warming and rewarding thing you could ever experience. There are more and more children being diagnosed with autism every day, these children grow into adults with autism, get educated and don't fear something just because you don't understand it.[/p][/quote]Great comment some lives will be enriched by the experience sadly others look at it as an excuse to claim additional payments and as you see as above some see it as an inconvenience. There are different levels of autism so no the example of they are loud and violent is not true in all cases its a shame that gaps in knowledge become ignorant opinion. We are in danger of becoming an uncaring society when we should be pulling together more and more people seem to be all about the "ME"....[/p][/quote]I think the danger has long past and we are an uncaring, double standards society already. How many genuinely caring, open minded people do you know who would go out of their way to help or give up things for others if there wasn't something in it for them. I bet the number would be very small. We are now a "disposable" society in every aspect including other people! Sad but true.[/p][/quote]Sorry house just saw this and you are right. Personally I refuse to have toxicity in my life where I can change it so I am lucky the people directly involved with my life are kind and caring. Totally agree with disposable society. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -3

7:36pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Sgt Rock (is going to help me) says...

Oldtownmum I notice you are now starting to qualify your earlier posts. As many have already said autism is a spectrum disorder. It would be most unlikely that six autistic people on the severe end of the spectrum would be placed in a residential setting such as this. More than likely it would be higher functioning individuals who would have made this street their home. For someone who has an insight into this complex disorder I am surprised by your original posts that seemed to be very negative. At the end of the day the residents of this area have intentionally or maybe unintentionally created an opinion that they are a bunch of ill educated Nimbys.
Oldtownmum I notice you are now starting to qualify your earlier posts. As many have already said autism is a spectrum disorder. It would be most unlikely that six autistic people on the severe end of the spectrum would be placed in a residential setting such as this. More than likely it would be higher functioning individuals who would have made this street their home. For someone who has an insight into this complex disorder I am surprised by your original posts that seemed to be very negative. At the end of the day the residents of this area have intentionally or maybe unintentionally created an opinion that they are a bunch of ill educated Nimbys. Sgt Rock (is going to help me)
  • Score: 8

7:44pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Oldtownmum wrote:
Wiltshirereader wrote:
The comments from Oldtownmum on this issue have reaffirmed my decision to ever bother reading or taking notice of her comments on here, I've only read them this time to see why so many readers are against her comments. Now I see it for myself. Her usual snobby selfish uncaring comments deserve all the backlash she gets. Oldtownmum: if you have nothing constructive to say then PLEASE DON'T POST YOUR NASTY COMMENTS, you're one of the most tiresome bigoted readers I've ever come across on here. If you bother to reply to this post be sure I will just ignore you - there's is nothing you could say that I would be remotely interested in or want to hear!

I hope a suitable home will be found where all will be treated with the love, care and respect they deserve and in case you're wondering, NO I wouldn't mind in the least if they lived near to me!
;-) you're pretty judgemental yourself dear.

Maybe I see things in a different light as I'm not Swindon born and bred so have seen there's another world out there! I mostly get abuse for stating that Swindon needs more upmarket shops and that I'm not overly keen on benefits scroungers and chavs. Makes me a minority in this town sadly, which is why it's known as a 'joke' town, with no life, character or much going for it. It definitely won't be where I end my days, unlike 99% of the born and bred residents.

I think many indignant comments are from people who know nothing about Autism. If the home is for high functioning people then you probably would welcome them with open arms and not have much trouble. But if they're severely affected, god help you. Never mind, you'll discover that for yourself when you welcome them to be your neighbours with open arms! Be prepared for screaming, nudity and shouting at all hours.
Well you answer is easy isnt it? Leave......
Or was it the affordable homes, location, cheaper services that keep you chained to this awful town.

You had negative comments because in the opinion of most your opinion was uncaring and at times nasty.
Do you feel not being from the town somehow makes you better?

I think a better log on name for you would be Hyacinth Bucket feel for your children I really do school would be tough with views like yours.
[quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wiltshirereader[/bold] wrote: The comments from Oldtownmum on this issue have reaffirmed my decision to ever bother reading or taking notice of her comments on here, I've only read them this time to see why so many readers are against her comments. Now I see it for myself. Her usual snobby selfish uncaring comments deserve all the backlash she gets. Oldtownmum: if you have nothing constructive to say then PLEASE DON'T POST YOUR NASTY COMMENTS, you're one of the most tiresome bigoted readers I've ever come across on here. If you bother to reply to this post be sure I will just ignore you - there's is nothing you could say that I would be remotely interested in or want to hear! I hope a suitable home will be found where all will be treated with the love, care and respect they deserve and in case you're wondering, NO I wouldn't mind in the least if they lived near to me![/p][/quote];-) you're pretty judgemental yourself dear. Maybe I see things in a different light as I'm not Swindon born and bred so have seen there's another world out there! I mostly get abuse for stating that Swindon needs more upmarket shops and that I'm not overly keen on benefits scroungers and chavs. Makes me a minority in this town sadly, which is why it's known as a 'joke' town, with no life, character or much going for it. It definitely won't be where I end my days, unlike 99% of the born and bred residents. I think many indignant comments are from people who know nothing about Autism. If the home is for high functioning people then you probably would welcome them with open arms and not have much trouble. But if they're severely affected, god help you. Never mind, you'll discover that for yourself when you welcome them to be your neighbours with open arms! Be prepared for screaming, nudity and shouting at all hours.[/p][/quote]Well you answer is easy isnt it? Leave...... Or was it the affordable homes, location, cheaper services that keep you chained to this awful town. You had negative comments because in the opinion of most your opinion was uncaring and at times nasty. Do you feel not being from the town somehow makes you better? I think a better log on name for you would be Hyacinth Bucket feel for your children I really do school would be tough with views like yours. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: 3

7:48pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Davey Gravey says...

Amberflame wrote:
Oldtownmum wrote:
Wow, there are some very twisted knickers on here!! You'd think someone had advocated the drowning of puppies. What a huge fuss over one or two people daring to have an opinion. The mock outrage is ludicrous, and as for the moron threatening to drive over to the estate..... Luckily his menacing and intimidating comment has now been removed.

Maybe instead of spewing nasty vitriol towards people merely giving their views, you could all go and do some Autism Awareness charity work. I myself know enough about it, hence my personal views. Final comment :-)
Oldtownmum and Davey Gravey, sitting in a tree

K-I-S-S-I-N-G

Suck it up. I think you will find that most who have replied to you in a negative way do have awareness of Autism! I know I do. Hard to believe you have. Perhaps you were busy reading a Katie Hopkins article at the time and weren't paying attention at this Autism Awareness Charity event?

"Spewing nasty vitriol" hardly describes the stick you have received on here, I think it has been pretty tame to be honest. After all, these people are just giving their views!
Should I apologise for you and your pathetic post above?
Grow up.
[quote][p][bold]Amberflame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: Wow, there are some very twisted knickers on here!! You'd think someone had advocated the drowning of puppies. What a huge fuss over one or two people daring to have an opinion. The mock outrage is ludicrous, and as for the moron threatening to drive over to the estate..... Luckily his menacing and intimidating comment has now been removed. Maybe instead of spewing nasty vitriol towards people merely giving their views, you could all go and do some Autism Awareness charity work. I myself know enough about it, hence my personal views. Final comment :-)[/p][/quote]Oldtownmum and Davey Gravey, sitting in a tree K-I-S-S-I-N-G Suck it up. I think you will find that most who have replied to you in a negative way do have awareness of Autism! I know I do. Hard to believe you have. Perhaps you were busy reading a Katie Hopkins article at the time and weren't paying attention at this Autism Awareness Charity event? "Spewing nasty vitriol" hardly describes the stick you have received on here, I think it has been pretty tame to be honest. After all, these people are just giving their views![/p][/quote]Should I apologise for you and your pathetic post above? Grow up. Davey Gravey
  • Score: 2

7:52pm Thu 31 Jul 14

johntomjo says...

nudity and swearing? now oldtownmum knows nothing about the average amazing person with autism......my son is autistic and is the most loving boy ,most of the time

and as far as charity work .we as a family and my friends have raised over £800 in the past year,without publicity or gain to yourself ...for a couple of charities including autism

I am also not Swindon born ,but have grown to appreciate the majority of kind people and wonderful parks and countryside we have on our doorstep

I only wish ill on those who spread it in the first place and karma will come round on you,....I get plenty of good karma so I don't really care about your lonely pitiful life
nudity and swearing? now oldtownmum knows nothing about the average amazing person with autism......my son is autistic and is the most loving boy ,most of the time and as far as charity work .we as a family and my friends have raised over £800 in the past year,without publicity or gain to yourself ...for a couple of charities including autism I am also not Swindon born ,but have grown to appreciate the majority of kind people and wonderful parks and countryside we have on our doorstep I only wish ill on those who spread it in the first place and karma will come round on you,....I get plenty of good karma so I don't really care about your lonely pitiful life johntomjo
  • Score: 1

7:54pm Thu 31 Jul 14

johntomjo says...

the predictive text is terrible Lol


that's supposed to read"without gain to ourselves"
the predictive text is terrible Lol that's supposed to read"without gain to ourselves" johntomjo
  • Score: 0

8:00pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Amberflame says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Amberflame wrote:
Oldtownmum wrote:
Wow, there are some very twisted knickers on here!! You'd think someone had advocated the drowning of puppies. What a huge fuss over one or two people daring to have an opinion. The mock outrage is ludicrous, and as for the moron threatening to drive over to the estate..... Luckily his menacing and intimidating comment has now been removed.

Maybe instead of spewing nasty vitriol towards people merely giving their views, you could all go and do some Autism Awareness charity work. I myself know enough about it, hence my personal views. Final comment :-)
Oldtownmum and Davey Gravey, sitting in a tree

K-I-S-S-I-N-G

Suck it up. I think you will find that most who have replied to you in a negative way do have awareness of Autism! I know I do. Hard to believe you have. Perhaps you were busy reading a Katie Hopkins article at the time and weren't paying attention at this Autism Awareness Charity event?

"Spewing nasty vitriol" hardly describes the stick you have received on here, I think it has been pretty tame to be honest. After all, these people are just giving their views!
Should I apologise for you and your pathetic post above?
Grow up.
Surely not pathetic, childish maybe?
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Amberflame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: Wow, there are some very twisted knickers on here!! You'd think someone had advocated the drowning of puppies. What a huge fuss over one or two people daring to have an opinion. The mock outrage is ludicrous, and as for the moron threatening to drive over to the estate..... Luckily his menacing and intimidating comment has now been removed. Maybe instead of spewing nasty vitriol towards people merely giving their views, you could all go and do some Autism Awareness charity work. I myself know enough about it, hence my personal views. Final comment :-)[/p][/quote]Oldtownmum and Davey Gravey, sitting in a tree K-I-S-S-I-N-G Suck it up. I think you will find that most who have replied to you in a negative way do have awareness of Autism! I know I do. Hard to believe you have. Perhaps you were busy reading a Katie Hopkins article at the time and weren't paying attention at this Autism Awareness Charity event? "Spewing nasty vitriol" hardly describes the stick you have received on here, I think it has been pretty tame to be honest. After all, these people are just giving their views![/p][/quote]Should I apologise for you and your pathetic post above? Grow up.[/p][/quote]Surely not pathetic, childish maybe? Amberflame
  • Score: 1

8:03pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Amberflame says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Nobody seems to have picked up on by far the most offensive and downright nasty comment made. The one wishing loneliness, abuse and suffering has in fact at this point had at least 20 people give it the thumbs up. So caring and compassionate eh. Take a look at yourselves.
Judging by the number of thumbs down to your original post (217 and counting) I think yours would qualify as the most offensive and downright nasty comment made!
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Nobody seems to have picked up on by far the most offensive and downright nasty comment made. The one wishing loneliness, abuse and suffering has in fact at this point had at least 20 people give it the thumbs up. So caring and compassionate eh. Take a look at yourselves.[/p][/quote]Judging by the number of thumbs down to your original post (217 and counting) I think yours would qualify as the most offensive and downright nasty comment made! Amberflame
  • Score: 2

8:15pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Davey Gravey says...

Amberflame wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Amberflame wrote:
Oldtownmum wrote:
Wow, there are some very twisted knickers on here!! You'd think someone had advocated the drowning of puppies. What a huge fuss over one or two people daring to have an opinion. The mock outrage is ludicrous, and as for the moron threatening to drive over to the estate..... Luckily his menacing and intimidating comment has now been removed.

Maybe instead of spewing nasty vitriol towards people merely giving their views, you could all go and do some Autism Awareness charity work. I myself know enough about it, hence my personal views. Final comment :-)
Oldtownmum and Davey Gravey, sitting in a tree

K-I-S-S-I-N-G

Suck it up. I think you will find that most who have replied to you in a negative way do have awareness of Autism! I know I do. Hard to believe you have. Perhaps you were busy reading a Katie Hopkins article at the time and weren't paying attention at this Autism Awareness Charity event?

"Spewing nasty vitriol" hardly describes the stick you have received on here, I think it has been pretty tame to be honest. After all, these people are just giving their views!
Should I apologise for you and your pathetic post above?
Grow up.
Surely not pathetic, childish maybe?
I do not agree with a lot of what oldtownmum is saying here and I think Katie Hopkins is horrible.
That said oldtownmum is no worse than many of the other comments who disagree with her and she is less abusive in fact.
Wishing suffering for fellow humans is as low as you can go. I know I am compassionate and have been misconstrued but hey people do not look beyond their own noses and put 2 and 2 together and get 5 because it suits them.
[quote][p][bold]Amberflame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Amberflame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: Wow, there are some very twisted knickers on here!! You'd think someone had advocated the drowning of puppies. What a huge fuss over one or two people daring to have an opinion. The mock outrage is ludicrous, and as for the moron threatening to drive over to the estate..... Luckily his menacing and intimidating comment has now been removed. Maybe instead of spewing nasty vitriol towards people merely giving their views, you could all go and do some Autism Awareness charity work. I myself know enough about it, hence my personal views. Final comment :-)[/p][/quote]Oldtownmum and Davey Gravey, sitting in a tree K-I-S-S-I-N-G Suck it up. I think you will find that most who have replied to you in a negative way do have awareness of Autism! I know I do. Hard to believe you have. Perhaps you were busy reading a Katie Hopkins article at the time and weren't paying attention at this Autism Awareness Charity event? "Spewing nasty vitriol" hardly describes the stick you have received on here, I think it has been pretty tame to be honest. After all, these people are just giving their views![/p][/quote]Should I apologise for you and your pathetic post above? Grow up.[/p][/quote]Surely not pathetic, childish maybe?[/p][/quote]I do not agree with a lot of what oldtownmum is saying here and I think Katie Hopkins is horrible. That said oldtownmum is no worse than many of the other comments who disagree with her and she is less abusive in fact. Wishing suffering for fellow humans is as low as you can go. I know I am compassionate and have been misconstrued but hey people do not look beyond their own noses and put 2 and 2 together and get 5 because it suits them. Davey Gravey
  • Score: 1

8:22pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Davey Gravey says...

Amberflame wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Nobody seems to have picked up on by far the most offensive and downright nasty comment made. The one wishing loneliness, abuse and suffering has in fact at this point had at least 20 people give it the thumbs up. So caring and compassionate eh. Take a look at yourselves.
Judging by the number of thumbs down to your original post (217 and counting) I think yours would qualify as the most offensive and downright nasty comment made!
Why is not wanting a care home next door to me nasty?
Selfish maybe, but not nasty.
[quote][p][bold]Amberflame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Nobody seems to have picked up on by far the most offensive and downright nasty comment made. The one wishing loneliness, abuse and suffering has in fact at this point had at least 20 people give it the thumbs up. So caring and compassionate eh. Take a look at yourselves.[/p][/quote]Judging by the number of thumbs down to your original post (217 and counting) I think yours would qualify as the most offensive and downright nasty comment made![/p][/quote]Why is not wanting a care home next door to me nasty? Selfish maybe, but not nasty. Davey Gravey
  • Score: -3

8:36pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Amberflame wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Nobody seems to have picked up on by far the most offensive and downright nasty comment made. The one wishing loneliness, abuse and suffering has in fact at this point had at least 20 people give it the thumbs up. So caring and compassionate eh. Take a look at yourselves.
Judging by the number of thumbs down to your original post (217 and counting) I think yours would qualify as the most offensive and downright nasty comment made!
Why is not wanting a care home next door to me nasty?
Selfish maybe, but not nasty.
The two things are the same. Well to me anyway.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Amberflame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Nobody seems to have picked up on by far the most offensive and downright nasty comment made. The one wishing loneliness, abuse and suffering has in fact at this point had at least 20 people give it the thumbs up. So caring and compassionate eh. Take a look at yourselves.[/p][/quote]Judging by the number of thumbs down to your original post (217 and counting) I think yours would qualify as the most offensive and downright nasty comment made![/p][/quote]Why is not wanting a care home next door to me nasty? Selfish maybe, but not nasty.[/p][/quote]The two things are the same. Well to me anyway. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: 3

9:05pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Davey Gravey says...

Badgersgetabadname wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Amberflame wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Nobody seems to have picked up on by far the most offensive and downright nasty comment made. The one wishing loneliness, abuse and suffering has in fact at this point had at least 20 people give it the thumbs up. So caring and compassionate eh. Take a look at yourselves.
Judging by the number of thumbs down to your original post (217 and counting) I think yours would qualify as the most offensive and downright nasty comment made!
Why is not wanting a care home next door to me nasty?
Selfish maybe, but not nasty.
The two things are the same. Well to me anyway.
How so?
Having numerous people from different backgrounds and who knows how affected and severe a condition next door I'd be concerned about.
It could all be ok but then again it could also be bad for those next door. Nobody can know for sure. I'd rather not take that chance. Selfish, yes I know. Not nasty even if it appears so.
I have not set out to offend anyone.
[quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Amberflame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Nobody seems to have picked up on by far the most offensive and downright nasty comment made. The one wishing loneliness, abuse and suffering has in fact at this point had at least 20 people give it the thumbs up. So caring and compassionate eh. Take a look at yourselves.[/p][/quote]Judging by the number of thumbs down to your original post (217 and counting) I think yours would qualify as the most offensive and downright nasty comment made![/p][/quote]Why is not wanting a care home next door to me nasty? Selfish maybe, but not nasty.[/p][/quote]The two things are the same. Well to me anyway.[/p][/quote]How so? Having numerous people from different backgrounds and who knows how affected and severe a condition next door I'd be concerned about. It could all be ok but then again it could also be bad for those next door. Nobody can know for sure. I'd rather not take that chance. Selfish, yes I know. Not nasty even if it appears so. I have not set out to offend anyone. Davey Gravey
  • Score: -6

9:57pm Thu 31 Jul 14

johntomjo says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Nobody seems to have picked up on by far the most offensive and downright nasty comment made. The one wishing loneliness, abuse and suffering has in fact at this point had at least 20 people give it the thumbs up. So caring and compassionate eh. Take a look at yourselves.
plus like an idiot you are reading it in a different way to the way it was intended.......if you go thru life being an obstinate selfish person the karma you don't give will come back on you ten fold .......I hope


I bet you walk past the homeless guy with your nose in the air
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Nobody seems to have picked up on by far the most offensive and downright nasty comment made. The one wishing loneliness, abuse and suffering has in fact at this point had at least 20 people give it the thumbs up. So caring and compassionate eh. Take a look at yourselves.[/p][/quote]plus like an idiot you are reading it in a different way to the way it was intended.......if you go thru life being an obstinate selfish person the karma you don't give will come back on you ten fold .......I hope I bet you walk past the homeless guy with your nose in the air johntomjo
  • Score: 4

10:18pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Les Colyer says...

Any point in continuing with this thread?
It's run it's course ..., there are folk who would welcome a care home near them & other who wouldn't ... That's a given.
What I do know is that there are 6 families now having to wait longer for a place to come up for their young adult to be cared for.
It's not an easy process ... Social workers, transition workers, assessments, funding applications, ... That's just the start
When little your Jane & Johnny are going to university & a hopefully a fulfilled future, our little darlings are taking a different life path ... One reliant on others for all aspects of daily living. Luckily there are people out there who are willing to offer that help.... I tip my hat to you. :-)
Any point in continuing with this thread? It's run it's course ..., there are folk who would welcome a care home near them & other who wouldn't ... That's a given. What I do know is that there are 6 families now having to wait longer for a place to come up for their young adult to be cared for. It's not an easy process ... Social workers, transition workers, assessments, funding applications, ... That's just the start When little your Jane & Johnny are going to university & a hopefully a fulfilled future, our little darlings are taking a different life path ... One reliant on others for all aspects of daily living. Luckily there are people out there who are willing to offer that help.... I tip my hat to you. :-) Les Colyer
  • Score: 5

10:21pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Davey Gravey says...

johntomjo wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Nobody seems to have picked up on by far the most offensive and downright nasty comment made. The one wishing loneliness, abuse and suffering has in fact at this point had at least 20 people give it the thumbs up. So caring and compassionate eh. Take a look at yourselves.
plus like an idiot you are reading it in a different way to the way it was intended.......if you go thru life being an obstinate selfish person the karma you don't give will come back on you ten fold .......I hope


I bet you walk past the homeless guy with your nose in the air
How was it intended? Looks pretty clear to me. Agree with the centre or i hope you suffer, or words to that effect.
In fact worse words.

No I don't just walk by which I'm sure will infuriate you further by the way
[quote][p][bold]johntomjo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Nobody seems to have picked up on by far the most offensive and downright nasty comment made. The one wishing loneliness, abuse and suffering has in fact at this point had at least 20 people give it the thumbs up. So caring and compassionate eh. Take a look at yourselves.[/p][/quote]plus like an idiot you are reading it in a different way to the way it was intended.......if you go thru life being an obstinate selfish person the karma you don't give will come back on you ten fold .......I hope I bet you walk past the homeless guy with your nose in the air[/p][/quote]How was it intended? Looks pretty clear to me. Agree with the centre or i hope you suffer, or words to that effect. In fact worse words. No I don't just walk by which I'm sure will infuriate you further by the way Davey Gravey
  • Score: -1

10:24pm Thu 31 Jul 14

aspieman says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Having an autistic child will automatically make people defensive and protective. I get that. It will also cloud your judgement though. Having an autistic child is not the same as having 6 autistic people in one house.
If I am ignorant then tell me why I am.
There are 5 of us living in this house, I have HFA, My wife has ADHD and out of my 3 children my eldest has ASD and a language disability, My son has ADHD, ODD, My youngest daughter has Aspergers. So why are we different to having one autistic person in a house, We have lived here for 8 years, What is the difference to 6 other adults living together, What makes 6 autistic people more disruptive? Have you seen 6 nero typical teenagers that live in a house or 6 **** heads living in a house, 1, 2 ,3 4,5,6 What are you trying to say?
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Having an autistic child will automatically make people defensive and protective. I get that. It will also cloud your judgement though. Having an autistic child is not the same as having 6 autistic people in one house. If I am ignorant then tell me why I am.[/p][/quote]There are 5 of us living in this house, I have HFA, My wife has ADHD and out of my 3 children my eldest has ASD and a language disability, My son has ADHD, ODD, My youngest daughter has Aspergers. So why are we different to having one autistic person in a house, We have lived here for 8 years, What is the difference to 6 other adults living together, What makes 6 autistic people more disruptive? Have you seen 6 nero typical teenagers that live in a house or 6 **** heads living in a house, 1, 2 ,3 4,5,6 What are you trying to say? aspieman
  • Score: 3

10:31pm Thu 31 Jul 14

aspieman says...

Maybe there is a reason parents with autistic children are *defensive and protective* Because we live in a society where there is injustice, judgemental people and stuck up, ill advised uneducated pompous, arrogant, selfish idiots!
Maybe there is a reason parents with autistic children are *defensive and protective* Because we live in a society where there is injustice, judgemental people and stuck up, ill advised uneducated pompous, arrogant, selfish idiots! aspieman
  • Score: 7

10:45pm Thu 31 Jul 14

aspieman says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Amberflame wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Nobody seems to have picked up on by far the most offensive and downright nasty comment made. The one wishing loneliness, abuse and suffering has in fact at this point had at least 20 people give it the thumbs up. So caring and compassionate eh. Take a look at yourselves.
Judging by the number of thumbs down to your original post (217 and counting) I think yours would qualify as the most offensive and downright nasty comment made!
Why is not wanting a care home next door to me nasty?
Selfish maybe, but not nasty.
The two things are the same. Well to me anyway.
How so?
Having numerous people from different backgrounds and who knows how affected and severe a condition next door I'd be concerned about.
It could all be ok but then again it could also be bad for those next door. Nobody can know for sure. I'd rather not take that chance. Selfish, yes I know. Not nasty even if it appears so.
I have not set out to offend anyone.
The odds are greater that 6 autistic people are going to be more behaved as these individuals will be supported and guided then any other random families or collective of people that would move into that house, There is a self supported unit that supports 15 autistic individuals close to where I live which is on an housing estate and they are the better behaved, The other families in the other households often have the police visiting for theft, anti social behaviour, robbery, noise nuisance, violence!
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Amberflame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Nobody seems to have picked up on by far the most offensive and downright nasty comment made. The one wishing loneliness, abuse and suffering has in fact at this point had at least 20 people give it the thumbs up. So caring and compassionate eh. Take a look at yourselves.[/p][/quote]Judging by the number of thumbs down to your original post (217 and counting) I think yours would qualify as the most offensive and downright nasty comment made![/p][/quote]Why is not wanting a care home next door to me nasty? Selfish maybe, but not nasty.[/p][/quote]The two things are the same. Well to me anyway.[/p][/quote]How so? Having numerous people from different backgrounds and who knows how affected and severe a condition next door I'd be concerned about. It could all be ok but then again it could also be bad for those next door. Nobody can know for sure. I'd rather not take that chance. Selfish, yes I know. Not nasty even if it appears so. I have not set out to offend anyone.[/p][/quote]The odds are greater that 6 autistic people are going to be more behaved as these individuals will be supported and guided then any other random families or collective of people that would move into that house, There is a self supported unit that supports 15 autistic individuals close to where I live which is on an housing estate and they are the better behaved, The other families in the other households often have the police visiting for theft, anti social behaviour, robbery, noise nuisance, violence! aspieman
  • Score: 7

11:13pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Davey Gravey says...

aspieman wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Having an autistic child will automatically make people defensive and protective. I get that. It will also cloud your judgement though. Having an autistic child is not the same as having 6 autistic people in one house.
If I am ignorant then tell me why I am.
There are 5 of us living in this house, I have HFA, My wife has ADHD and out of my 3 children my eldest has ASD and a language disability, My son has ADHD, ODD, My youngest daughter has Aspergers. So why are we different to having one autistic person in a house, We have lived here for 8 years, What is the difference to 6 other adults living together, What makes 6 autistic people more disruptive? Have you seen 6 nero typical teenagers that live in a house or 6 **** heads living in a house, 1, 2 ,3 4,5,6 What are you trying to say?
You are a family which is totally different to having 6 vulnerable people from different backgrounds in one home.
I'm saying I wouldn't want to live next door to it. That is it.
I'm not uncaring or unsympathetic, I just selfishly wouldn't want to live next door to a centre. Sorry if that upsets you but that's my view.
[quote][p][bold]aspieman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Having an autistic child will automatically make people defensive and protective. I get that. It will also cloud your judgement though. Having an autistic child is not the same as having 6 autistic people in one house. If I am ignorant then tell me why I am.[/p][/quote]There are 5 of us living in this house, I have HFA, My wife has ADHD and out of my 3 children my eldest has ASD and a language disability, My son has ADHD, ODD, My youngest daughter has Aspergers. So why are we different to having one autistic person in a house, We have lived here for 8 years, What is the difference to 6 other adults living together, What makes 6 autistic people more disruptive? Have you seen 6 nero typical teenagers that live in a house or 6 **** heads living in a house, 1, 2 ,3 4,5,6 What are you trying to say?[/p][/quote]You are a family which is totally different to having 6 vulnerable people from different backgrounds in one home. I'm saying I wouldn't want to live next door to it. That is it. I'm not uncaring or unsympathetic, I just selfishly wouldn't want to live next door to a centre. Sorry if that upsets you but that's my view. Davey Gravey
  • Score: 1

3:18am Fri 1 Aug 14

REDROM says...

Davey Gravey or is it Always Grumpy or one of your other aliases today???? , once again you surpass yourself with outrageous BLIll-sh1t, end of the day you are pure scum.
Davey Gravey or is it Always Grumpy or one of your other aliases today???? , once again you surpass yourself with outrageous BLIll-sh1t, end of the day you are pure scum. REDROM
  • Score: -4

8:35am Fri 1 Aug 14

Agent A says...

The people who say "I've got nothing against people with autism, but...", they're like the bloke down the pub who says "I'm not racist, but.." and then goes on to say something racist.

The wall of folded arms speaks volumes, never in the history of the Adver have I seen so many in one place!
The people who say "I've got nothing against people with autism, but...", they're like the bloke down the pub who says "I'm not racist, but.." and then goes on to say something racist. The wall of folded arms speaks volumes, never in the history of the Adver have I seen so many in one place! Agent A
  • Score: 7

11:28am Fri 1 Aug 14

Davey Gravey says...

REDROM wrote:
Davey Gravey or is it Always Grumpy or one of your other aliases today???? , once again you surpass yourself with outrageous BLIll-sh1t, end of the day you are pure scum.
Another stupid and ignorant pitch fork waver. Do you condone pain and suffering to anyone who wouldn't want to live next door to a care centre too?
A fair few morons do on here which says more about them than anything else. Kind and compassionate my arse
[quote][p][bold]REDROM[/bold] wrote: Davey Gravey or is it Always Grumpy or one of your other aliases today???? , once again you surpass yourself with outrageous BLIll-sh1t, end of the day you are pure scum.[/p][/quote]Another stupid and ignorant pitch fork waver. Do you condone pain and suffering to anyone who wouldn't want to live next door to a care centre too? A fair few morons do on here which says more about them than anything else. Kind and compassionate my arse Davey Gravey
  • Score: 5

11:48am Fri 1 Aug 14

IfItsONtheNet says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Amberflame wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Nobody seems to have picked up on by far the most offensive and downright nasty comment made. The one wishing loneliness, abuse and suffering has in fact at this point had at least 20 people give it the thumbs up. So caring and compassionate eh. Take a look at yourselves.
Judging by the number of thumbs down to your original post (217 and counting) I think yours would qualify as the most offensive and downright nasty comment made!
Why is not wanting a care home next door to me nasty?
Selfish maybe, but not nasty.
The two things are the same. Well to me anyway.
How so?
Having numerous people from different backgrounds and who knows how affected and severe a condition next door I'd be concerned about.
It could all be ok but then again it could also be bad for those next door. Nobody can know for sure. I'd rather not take that chance. Selfish, yes I know. Not nasty even if it appears so.
I have not set out to offend anyone.
Davey I did post a comment earlier in the thread which praised you for being honest.
To me being selfish is nasty which is why I have such an issue with two other posters on here. It irks me when people than can help dont.

Who moves in next door is not anyones decision, if the house is on the market and goes for the agreed price what does it have to do with anyone but the buyer and seller.
Surely the potential for new neighbours to be loud etc is always there.

I dont understand who the residents mob think they are by saying who can and cant move in. The proposal to move in 6 young adults who are trying to be more independent should of been seen as a compliment that the area was deemed safe enough to be considered.

The residents were offered the chance to voice concerns in a civil manor at a meeting they decided not to do that, they decided to enlist the help of councilors in an attempt to bully a group of vulnerable people.
The pretense for this was that residential property is not to be used as a business this despite the fact a quick internet search will show a number of businesses operating from the estate.
Not sure of the exact ins and out of it but isnt it tax evasion?

I am sure the residents are all above reproach and have never had any dodge business deals, had numerous affairs or been involved in other criminal activity (they have). Hypocrisy and bullying annoy me more than most things I know many people that live with autism so I see these "people" as being low and behaving in an awful way.
To tell others what to do you need to be whiter than white these people are not far from it in fact.

No beef with you at all your posts normally far from selfish if its something you feel you couldnt deal with that is honest. Its the anti everything brigade that annoy me.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Amberflame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Nobody seems to have picked up on by far the most offensive and downright nasty comment made. The one wishing loneliness, abuse and suffering has in fact at this point had at least 20 people give it the thumbs up. So caring and compassionate eh. Take a look at yourselves.[/p][/quote]Judging by the number of thumbs down to your original post (217 and counting) I think yours would qualify as the most offensive and downright nasty comment made![/p][/quote]Why is not wanting a care home next door to me nasty? Selfish maybe, but not nasty.[/p][/quote]The two things are the same. Well to me anyway.[/p][/quote]How so? Having numerous people from different backgrounds and who knows how affected and severe a condition next door I'd be concerned about. It could all be ok but then again it could also be bad for those next door. Nobody can know for sure. I'd rather not take that chance. Selfish, yes I know. Not nasty even if it appears so. I have not set out to offend anyone.[/p][/quote]Davey I did post a comment earlier in the thread which praised you for being honest. To me being selfish is nasty which is why I have such an issue with two other posters on here. It irks me when people than can help dont. Who moves in next door is not anyones decision, if the house is on the market and goes for the agreed price what does it have to do with anyone but the buyer and seller. Surely the potential for new neighbours to be loud etc is always there. I dont understand who the residents mob think they are by saying who can and cant move in. The proposal to move in 6 young adults who are trying to be more independent should of been seen as a compliment that the area was deemed safe enough to be considered. The residents were offered the chance to voice concerns in a civil manor at a meeting they decided not to do that, they decided to enlist the help of councilors in an attempt to bully a group of vulnerable people. The pretense for this was that residential property is not to be used as a business this despite the fact a quick internet search will show a number of businesses operating from the estate. Not sure of the exact ins and out of it but isnt it tax evasion? I am sure the residents are all above reproach and have never had any dodge business deals, had numerous affairs or been involved in other criminal activity (they have). Hypocrisy and bullying annoy me more than most things I know many people that live with autism so I see these "people" as being low and behaving in an awful way. To tell others what to do you need to be whiter than white these people are not far from it in fact. No beef with you at all your posts normally far from selfish if its something you feel you couldnt deal with that is honest. Its the anti everything brigade that annoy me. IfItsONtheNet
  • Score: 5

11:50am Fri 1 Aug 14

IfItsONtheNet says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Badgersgetabadname wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Amberflame wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Nobody seems to have picked up on by far the most offensive and downright nasty comment made. The one wishing loneliness, abuse and suffering has in fact at this point had at least 20 people give it the thumbs up. So caring and compassionate eh. Take a look at yourselves.
Judging by the number of thumbs down to your original post (217 and counting) I think yours would qualify as the most offensive and downright nasty comment made!
Why is not wanting a care home next door to me nasty?
Selfish maybe, but not nasty.
The two things are the same. Well to me anyway.
How so?
Having numerous people from different backgrounds and who knows how affected and severe a condition next door I'd be concerned about.
It could all be ok but then again it could also be bad for those next door. Nobody can know for sure. I'd rather not take that chance. Selfish, yes I know. Not nasty even if it appears so.
I have not set out to offend anyone.
Davey I did post a comment earlier in the thread which praised you for being honest.
To me being selfish is nasty which is why I have such an issue with two other posters on here. It irks me when people than can help dont.

Who moves in next door is not anyones decision, if the house is on the market and goes for the agreed price what does it have to do with anyone but the buyer and seller.
Surely the potential for new neighbours to be loud etc is always there.

I dont understand who the residents mob think they are by saying who can and cant move in. The proposal to move in 6 young adults who are trying to be more independent should of been seen as a compliment that the area was deemed safe enough to be considered.

The residents were offered the chance to voice concerns in a civil manor at a meeting they decided not to do that, they decided to enlist the help of councilors in an attempt to bully a group of vulnerable people.
The pretense for this was that residential property is not to be used as a business this despite the fact a quick internet search will show a number of businesses operating from the estate.
Not sure of the exact ins and out of it but isnt it tax evasion?

I am sure the residents are all above reproach and have never had any dodge business deals, had numerous affairs or been involved in other criminal activity (they have). Hypocrisy and bullying annoy me more than most things I know many people that live with autism so I see these "people" as being low and behaving in an awful way.
To tell others what to do you need to be whiter than white these people are not far from it in fact.

No beef with you at all your posts normally far from selfish if its something you feel you couldnt deal with that is honest. Its the anti everything brigade that annoy me.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Amberflame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Nobody seems to have picked up on by far the most offensive and downright nasty comment made. The one wishing loneliness, abuse and suffering has in fact at this point had at least 20 people give it the thumbs up. So caring and compassionate eh. Take a look at yourselves.[/p][/quote]Judging by the number of thumbs down to your original post (217 and counting) I think yours would qualify as the most offensive and downright nasty comment made![/p][/quote]Why is not wanting a care home next door to me nasty? Selfish maybe, but not nasty.[/p][/quote]The two things are the same. Well to me anyway.[/p][/quote]How so? Having numerous people from different backgrounds and who knows how affected and severe a condition next door I'd be concerned about. It could all be ok but then again it could also be bad for those next door. Nobody can know for sure. I'd rather not take that chance. Selfish, yes I know. Not nasty even if it appears so. I have not set out to offend anyone.[/p][/quote]Davey I did post a comment earlier in the thread which praised you for being honest. To me being selfish is nasty which is why I have such an issue with two other posters on here. It irks me when people than can help dont. Who moves in next door is not anyones decision, if the house is on the market and goes for the agreed price what does it have to do with anyone but the buyer and seller. Surely the potential for new neighbours to be loud etc is always there. I dont understand who the residents mob think they are by saying who can and cant move in. The proposal to move in 6 young adults who are trying to be more independent should of been seen as a compliment that the area was deemed safe enough to be considered. The residents were offered the chance to voice concerns in a civil manor at a meeting they decided not to do that, they decided to enlist the help of councilors in an attempt to bully a group of vulnerable people. The pretense for this was that residential property is not to be used as a business this despite the fact a quick internet search will show a number of businesses operating from the estate. Not sure of the exact ins and out of it but isnt it tax evasion? I am sure the residents are all above reproach and have never had any dodge business deals, had numerous affairs or been involved in other criminal activity (they have). Hypocrisy and bullying annoy me more than most things I know many people that live with autism so I see these "people" as being low and behaving in an awful way. To tell others what to do you need to be whiter than white these people are not far from it in fact. No beef with you at all your posts normally far from selfish if its something you feel you couldnt deal with that is honest. Its the anti everything brigade that annoy me. IfItsONtheNet
  • Score: 5

3:15pm Fri 1 Aug 14

swwindon61uk says...

Shame on them, i bet if it was another supermarket they would not object.
Oh to be perfect like these residents, i suspect if one them had an autistic child they would be crying there is nowhere near or any wear for them to get help.
makes my blood boil.
Shame on them, i bet if it was another supermarket they would not object. Oh to be perfect like these residents, i suspect if one them had an autistic child they would be crying there is nowhere near or any wear for them to get help. makes my blood boil. swwindon61uk
  • Score: 4

7:49pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Sullivan the Poet says...

messyits wrote:
Such a shame when business folk in breach of the covenant object when they have breached the covenant--I will write to the Council and name and shame them.
Is that a 'commercial' vehicle advertising a business parked outside the property of one of these smug, unpleasant excuses for human beings?
[quote][p][bold]messyits[/bold] wrote: Such a shame when business folk in breach of the covenant object when they have breached the covenant--I will write to the Council and name and shame them.[/p][/quote]Is that a 'commercial' vehicle advertising a business parked outside the property of one of these smug, unpleasant excuses for human beings? Sullivan the Poet
  • Score: 5

12:58pm Sat 2 Aug 14

faatmaan says...

we'll now put it in a council estate, less opposition from the few who pay rates ! watch this space, this will be the inevitable conclusion, and will these anti business types turn in their neighbours, many of whom operate from their homes without the necessary consents , all the council has to do is google search the area, but I bet we will not see this happen, don't want to disturb the only hard workers in Swindon.
we'll now put it in a council estate, less opposition from the few who pay rates ! watch this space, this will be the inevitable conclusion, and will these anti business types turn in their neighbours, many of whom operate from their homes without the necessary consents , all the council has to do is google search the area, but I bet we will not see this happen, don't want to disturb the only hard workers in Swindon. faatmaan
  • Score: -3

1:18pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

faatmaan wrote:
we'll now put it in a council estate, less opposition from the few who pay rates ! watch this space, this will be the inevitable conclusion, and will these anti business types turn in their neighbours, many of whom operate from their homes without the necessary consents , all the council has to do is google search the area, but I bet we will not see this happen, don't want to disturb the only hard workers in Swindon.
Agree 100% I would imagine they are hoping the situation will just leave quietly much like they wanted the proposal to go away.

The key thing here is to not let it go away. Directly contact your councilor and any other authority you can, attach this article as how you have become aware of it.
There is a general election coming and they will not want a PR problem to deal with keep pushing and demand answers.
Maybe it wasnt all the residents of Oakbourne park but the actions of those that did will of caused all the issues for people that do run businesses from their homes.
Is it an issue for the tax office?
IF nothing is then done it shows a precedent for others to do exactly that with impunity.
[quote][p][bold]faatmaan[/bold] wrote: we'll now put it in a council estate, less opposition from the few who pay rates ! watch this space, this will be the inevitable conclusion, and will these anti business types turn in their neighbours, many of whom operate from their homes without the necessary consents , all the council has to do is google search the area, but I bet we will not see this happen, don't want to disturb the only hard workers in Swindon.[/p][/quote]Agree 100% I would imagine they are hoping the situation will just leave quietly much like they wanted the proposal to go away. The key thing here is to not let it go away. Directly contact your councilor and any other authority you can, attach this article as how you have become aware of it. There is a general election coming and they will not want a PR problem to deal with keep pushing and demand answers. Maybe it wasnt all the residents of Oakbourne park but the actions of those that did will of caused all the issues for people that do run businesses from their homes. Is it an issue for the tax office? IF nothing is then done it shows a precedent for others to do exactly that with impunity. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -4

1:25pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

https://www.gov.uk/r
un-business-from-hom
e

Once the business issues are resolved we could look further into the dealings of others and why not explain the numerous affairs many of them have had.....There are 3 in the picture.....

T&C`s are only breached if something is untrue none of this is.
https://www.gov.uk/r un-business-from-hom e Once the business issues are resolved we could look further into the dealings of others and why not explain the numerous affairs many of them have had.....There are 3 in the picture..... T&C`s are only breached if something is untrue none of this is. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -5

5:48pm Sat 2 Aug 14

timt1964 says...

To be honest i really cant be ar$ed to read most of the comments on here but some of you should be ashamed for your comments and general attitude towards others.This week the first world war has been remembered but was all that suffering worth it to create a town like ours where nimbyism is alive and well.This kind of "looking after number 1" selfish attitude is why our country is in a mess.The arms folded brigade led by these publicity seeking councillors are the advers favourite kind of people.
To be honest i really cant be ar$ed to read most of the comments on here but some of you should be ashamed for your comments and general attitude towards others.This week the first world war has been remembered but was all that suffering worth it to create a town like ours where nimbyism is alive and well.This kind of "looking after number 1" selfish attitude is why our country is in a mess.The arms folded brigade led by these publicity seeking councillors are the advers favourite kind of people. timt1964
  • Score: 0

8:11pm Sat 2 Aug 14

hatersgottahate says...

birdieman wrote:
Good luck to Autism care in looking for a new location...in truth it's probably a blessing in disguise that your residents will not be living in such a horrible estate with its nauseating residents.
"Oke"bourne? more like Oik burn - ignorant people who one day will have someone they love develop a disability. What a lucky escape for those adults with autism. Phew!
[quote][p][bold]birdieman[/bold] wrote: Good luck to Autism care in looking for a new location...in truth it's probably a blessing in disguise that your residents will not be living in such a horrible estate with its nauseating residents.[/p][/quote]"Oke"bourne? more like Oik burn - ignorant people who one day will have someone they love develop a disability. What a lucky escape for those adults with autism. Phew! hatersgottahate
  • Score: 0

8:15pm Sat 2 Aug 14

hatersgottahate says...

Autism prevalence is now 1 in 68 (much higher for boys). Autism will inevitably affect the families of those who 'protested'. When it comes time for others to stand up for you there in "Oik" bourne, don't look my way alright? When you are drooling over your corn flakes, having your senior/dementia moment I wonder what institution your children will stick you in - I only hope you raised your own children minus your own ignorance.
Autism prevalence is now 1 in 68 (much higher for boys). Autism will inevitably affect the families of those who 'protested'. When it comes time for others to stand up for you there in "Oik" bourne, don't look my way alright? When you are drooling over your corn flakes, having your senior/dementia moment I wonder what institution your children will stick you in - I only hope you raised your own children minus your own ignorance. hatersgottahate
  • Score: 0

8:24pm Sat 2 Aug 14

hatersgottahate says...

Oldtownmum wrote:
EastleazeRed wrote:
Oldtownmum wrote:
To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours
Well lets hope you get looked after in your old age oldtownmum , because I wouldn't want a bigoted grumpy old woman living in a care home anywhere near me.
It's not bigoted, it's realism. A small quiet estate is not the place for Autistic adults. These adults are living away from their families for a reason - they are very difficult to manage in a normal home environment. You can criticise me all you like, but I have experience of similar situations, you don't.
your ignorance is awe inspiring - please go back to the 19century. 'Rural' areas? God, no wonder the world thinks the English are ignorant **** with their heads up their arses. You have 'experience' of similar 'situations'? REally, I think rather, your own family has a similar experience living with/beside/hear you. Do people like you actually exist any more? Ring ring - BNP/UKIP calling.
[quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EastleazeRed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours[/p][/quote]Well lets hope you get looked after in your old age oldtownmum , because I wouldn't want a bigoted grumpy old woman living in a care home anywhere near me.[/p][/quote]It's not bigoted, it's realism. A small quiet estate is not the place for Autistic adults. These adults are living away from their families for a reason - they are very difficult to manage in a normal home environment. You can criticise me all you like, but I have experience of similar situations, you don't.[/p][/quote]your ignorance is awe inspiring - please go back to the 19century. 'Rural' areas? God, no wonder the world thinks the English are ignorant **** with their heads up their arses. You have 'experience' of similar 'situations'? REally, I think rather, your own family has a similar experience living with/beside/hear you. Do people like you actually exist any more? Ring ring - BNP/UKIP calling. hatersgottahate
  • Score: 0

11:11pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

As the residents helped to make the no business rules there is no way any of those people are running businesses from their houses.....Is there?
As the residents helped to make the no business rules there is no way any of those people are running businesses from their houses.....Is there? Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: 3

10:10am Sun 3 Aug 14

Goat67 says...

Oldtownmum wrote:
You slug wrote: What a horrible, miserable looking bunch of NIMBYs. I’d say those who were going to live there have just had a lucky escape, imagine living amongst that lot. As the father of a 20 year old autistic daughter currently living in supported living in Covingham with the White Horse Care Trust I can’t praise these organisations enough. The idea is not to put people who need help in big institutions like we used to do but to try and make their lives as normal as possible…..just like those as fortunate as ourselves. The neighbours where my daughter lives were a bit apprehensive at first but very quickly realised that they had nothing to worry about because believe it or not, people with autism are normal people which is more than can be said for a couple of posters on here. Good luck to Autism Care and I hope you find somewhere much more suitable. Oldtownmum you have no idea how offensive you are, I hope if ever you need help they stick you in a field where you can’t disturb anyone else and feed you with a catapult!!
I've not been offensive, I've been truthful. I've not said autistic people don't deserve to attempt to live a normal life, I've said that on a housing estate is not the right place. It would be very interesting to see how many of you would willingly have the house next door to you occupied by adults with Learning disabilities. Hmmm, though not.
How do you expect someone to be able to live a normal life yet avoid living on a housing estate?

I lived next door but one from such a home for nearly a decade with no problems or even irritations from the neighbors.

In fact the only problems or irritations that were experienced by us at that address were caused by so called normal individuals passing by in cars and on foot, leaving a trail of noise, litter vomit and even s* *t both their dogs and their own!
[quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You slug[/bold] wrote: What a horrible, miserable looking bunch of NIMBYs. I’d say those who were going to live there have just had a lucky escape, imagine living amongst that lot. As the father of a 20 year old autistic daughter currently living in supported living in Covingham with the White Horse Care Trust I can’t praise these organisations enough. The idea is not to put people who need help in big institutions like we used to do but to try and make their lives as normal as possible…..just like those as fortunate as ourselves. The neighbours where my daughter lives were a bit apprehensive at first but very quickly realised that they had nothing to worry about because believe it or not, people with autism are normal people which is more than can be said for a couple of posters on here. Good luck to Autism Care and I hope you find somewhere much more suitable. Oldtownmum you have no idea how offensive you are, I hope if ever you need help they stick you in a field where you can’t disturb anyone else and feed you with a catapult!![/p][/quote]I've not been offensive, I've been truthful. I've not said autistic people don't deserve to attempt to live a normal life, I've said that on a housing estate is not the right place. It would be very interesting to see how many of you would willingly have the house next door to you occupied by adults with Learning disabilities. Hmmm, though not.[/p][/quote]How do you expect someone to be able to live a normal life yet avoid living on a housing estate? I lived next door but one from such a home for nearly a decade with no problems or even irritations from the neighbors. In fact the only problems or irritations that were experienced by us at that address were caused by so called normal individuals passing by in cars and on foot, leaving a trail of noise, litter vomit and even s* *t both their dogs and their own! Goat67
  • Score: 3

10:45am Sun 3 Aug 14

Goat67 says...

Oldtownmum wrote:
You slug wrote: What a horrible, miserable looking bunch of NIMBYs. I’d say those who were going to live there have just had a lucky escape, imagine living amongst that lot. As the father of a 20 year old autistic daughter currently living in supported living in Covingham with the White Horse Care Trust I can’t praise these organisations enough. The idea is not to put people who need help in big institutions like we used to do but to try and make their lives as normal as possible…..just like those as fortunate as ourselves. The neighbours where my daughter lives were a bit apprehensive at first but very quickly realised that they had nothing to worry about because believe it or not, people with autism are normal people which is more than can be said for a couple of posters on here. Good luck to Autism Care and I hope you find somewhere much more suitable. Oldtownmum you have no idea how offensive you are, I hope if ever you need help they stick you in a field where you can’t disturb anyone else and feed you with a catapult!!
I've not been offensive, I've been truthful. I've not said autistic people don't deserve to attempt to live a normal life, I've said that on a housing estate is not the right place. It would be very interesting to see how many of you would willingly have the house next door to you occupied by adults with Learning disabilities. Hmmm, though not.
How do you expect someone to be able to live a normal life yet avoid living on a housing estate?

I lived next door but one from such a home for nearly a decade with no problems or even irritations from the neighbors.

In fact the only problems or irritations that were experienced by us at that address were caused by so called normal individuals passing by in cars and on foot, leaving a trail of noise, litter vomit and even s* *t both their dogs and their own!
[quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You slug[/bold] wrote: What a horrible, miserable looking bunch of NIMBYs. I’d say those who were going to live there have just had a lucky escape, imagine living amongst that lot. As the father of a 20 year old autistic daughter currently living in supported living in Covingham with the White Horse Care Trust I can’t praise these organisations enough. The idea is not to put people who need help in big institutions like we used to do but to try and make their lives as normal as possible…..just like those as fortunate as ourselves. The neighbours where my daughter lives were a bit apprehensive at first but very quickly realised that they had nothing to worry about because believe it or not, people with autism are normal people which is more than can be said for a couple of posters on here. Good luck to Autism Care and I hope you find somewhere much more suitable. Oldtownmum you have no idea how offensive you are, I hope if ever you need help they stick you in a field where you can’t disturb anyone else and feed you with a catapult!![/p][/quote]I've not been offensive, I've been truthful. I've not said autistic people don't deserve to attempt to live a normal life, I've said that on a housing estate is not the right place. It would be very interesting to see how many of you would willingly have the house next door to you occupied by adults with Learning disabilities. Hmmm, though not.[/p][/quote]How do you expect someone to be able to live a normal life yet avoid living on a housing estate? I lived next door but one from such a home for nearly a decade with no problems or even irritations from the neighbors. In fact the only problems or irritations that were experienced by us at that address were caused by so called normal individuals passing by in cars and on foot, leaving a trail of noise, litter vomit and even s* *t both their dogs and their own! Goat67
  • Score: 2

10:12pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Katt8665 says...

Oldtownmum wrote:
EastleazeRed wrote:
Oldtownmum wrote:
To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours
Well lets hope you get looked after in your old age oldtownmum , because I wouldn't want a bigoted grumpy old woman living in a care home anywhere near me.
It's not bigoted, it's realism. A small quiet estate is not the place for Autistic adults. These adults are living away from their families for a reason - they are very difficult to manage in a normal home environment. You can criticise me all you like, but I have experience of similar situations, you don't.
They're often living away from their family because they're dead! My son has autism; he is quiet, docile and likes to be by himself. Eventually I'll die ... Then he'll be living away from me. Because I'm dead. Not because he is violent or unmanageable.
[quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EastleazeRed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours[/p][/quote]Well lets hope you get looked after in your old age oldtownmum , because I wouldn't want a bigoted grumpy old woman living in a care home anywhere near me.[/p][/quote]It's not bigoted, it's realism. A small quiet estate is not the place for Autistic adults. These adults are living away from their families for a reason - they are very difficult to manage in a normal home environment. You can criticise me all you like, but I have experience of similar situations, you don't.[/p][/quote]They're often living away from their family because they're dead! My son has autism; he is quiet, docile and likes to be by himself. Eventually I'll die ... Then he'll be living away from me. Because I'm dead. Not because he is violent or unmanageable. Katt8665
  • Score: 2

10:27pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Danie1022 says...

I used to think that the UK was really progressive when it came to autism and people with disabilities. This is disgusting. I'm happy that in NYS, my children receive really great services and that others with autism in the US are not at the mercy of the hypocrites in this story.
I used to think that the UK was really progressive when it came to autism and people with disabilities. This is disgusting. I'm happy that in NYS, my children receive really great services and that others with autism in the US are not at the mercy of the hypocrites in this story. Danie1022
  • Score: 3

10:32pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Danie1022 says...

Kennan! wrote:
Oldtownmum wrote:
EastleazeRed wrote:
Oldtownmum wrote:
To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours
Well lets hope you get looked after in your old age oldtownmum , because I wouldn't want a bigoted grumpy old woman living in a care home anywhere near me.
It's not bigoted, it's realism. A small quiet estate is not the place for Autistic adults. These adults are living away from their families for a reason - they are very difficult to manage in a normal home environment. You can criticise me all you like, but I have experience of similar situations, you don't.
Hmm these people are living away from their families for a reason?? How about the reason being, they want more independence! Like anyone moving away from the family home. Autistic people can live very 'normal' lives, if not better. Some of the smartest people in the world have a disability of some sort.
This is address to Oldtownmum, unless you have an autistic child that you have to deal with on a 24 hour basis, you're in know way an expert on how they are. So you've been around a few autistic people...BIG DEAL! I have 2 autistic children that are nothing like you describe. Why? because you don't know what you're talking about. You've made an assumption and judge a whole group of people based on small interaction with a few. You need to have a whole row of seat, sit down and keep quiet.
[quote][p][bold]Kennan![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EastleazeRed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: To all those up in arms at the 'bigotry!, have you spent time with autistic people? I have and on the whole they're not just quiet people in their own world. They can be very noisy, sometimes violent and need monitoring constantly. I wouldn't want to have a care home within ear shot of my property. And I don't see why people should be driven out of their homes. There are plenty of more rural areas where staff wouldn't have to worry about noise levels and inconvenience to neighbours[/p][/quote]Well lets hope you get looked after in your old age oldtownmum , because I wouldn't want a bigoted grumpy old woman living in a care home anywhere near me.[/p][/quote]It's not bigoted, it's realism. A small quiet estate is not the place for Autistic adults. These adults are living away from their families for a reason - they are very difficult to manage in a normal home environment. You can criticise me all you like, but I have experience of similar situations, you don't.[/p][/quote]Hmm these people are living away from their families for a reason?? How about the reason being, they want more independence! Like anyone moving away from the family home. Autistic people can live very 'normal' lives, if not better. Some of the smartest people in the world have a disability of some sort.[/p][/quote]This is address to Oldtownmum, unless you have an autistic child that you have to deal with on a 24 hour basis, you're in know way an expert on how they are. So you've been around a few autistic people...BIG DEAL! I have 2 autistic children that are nothing like you describe. Why? because you don't know what you're talking about. You've made an assumption and judge a whole group of people based on small interaction with a few. You need to have a whole row of seat, sit down and keep quiet. Danie1022
  • Score: 4

11:26am Mon 4 Aug 14

Smokin Joe says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.
I disagree - I would happily have this right next door to me.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.[/p][/quote]I disagree - I would happily have this right next door to me. Smokin Joe
  • Score: 2

11:29am Mon 4 Aug 14

Smokin Joe says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.
I would have no problem with this care home right next door to me. Just saying.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't want them next door to me and I'm sure most others wouldn't either. Just saying.[/p][/quote]I would have no problem with this care home right next door to me. Just saying. Smokin Joe
  • Score: 3

9:23pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Karen Campbell says...

I am appalled and disgusted by the actions of the residents of Okebourne Park. As the mother of a young adult currently living at Autism Wiltshire other home in Swindon and who was due to be moving into the new home in Okebourne Park, I am glad the Stuart and Tanya have decided not to go ahead with the new home there. I would not like to think that my child was living in an area full of narrow minded, discrimative biggots.
Residents of Okebourne Park you should be utterly ashamed of yourselves.
I am appalled and disgusted by the actions of the residents of Okebourne Park. As the mother of a young adult currently living at Autism Wiltshire other home in Swindon and who was due to be moving into the new home in Okebourne Park, I am glad the Stuart and Tanya have decided not to go ahead with the new home there. I would not like to think that my child was living in an area full of narrow minded, discrimative biggots. Residents of Okebourne Park you should be utterly ashamed of yourselves. Karen Campbell
  • Score: 5

10:07pm Mon 4 Aug 14

timt1964 says...

i would love to win the lottery,buy the property in question and make these selfish snobs lives a misery.call it karma!! good luck to anyone who dares to "care" in this nimby town in which we reside.
i would love to win the lottery,buy the property in question and make these selfish snobs lives a misery.call it karma!! good luck to anyone who dares to "care" in this nimby town in which we reside. timt1964
  • Score: 3

11:30pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

This was backed by a councilor.
Details are easy to find get in contact and let them know how you feel general election coming.
Let them know fishing for the 20 odd votes from the estate is not the general consensus.
Maybe a good time to approach a cllr for other areas for support finding a new house?
The only time parties remember they work for the people are in the months leading to a GE.
This was backed by a councilor. Details are easy to find get in contact and let them know how you feel general election coming. Let them know fishing for the 20 odd votes from the estate is not the general consensus. Maybe a good time to approach a cllr for other areas for support finding a new house? The only time parties remember they work for the people are in the months leading to a GE. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: 2

5:18pm Tue 5 Aug 14

TheWiseGuy says...

Shame on Okebourne Park, Liden residents; seems like they have lost their humanity and evolved sensibilities which we Aspies and Auties have in excess. They should park their heads beside their tails in shame, and learn how to live without an understanding of anger, violence and aggression, and all that evil maliciousness we just don't have.
Shame on Okebourne Park, Liden residents; seems like they have lost their humanity and evolved sensibilities which we Aspies and Auties have in excess. They should park their heads beside their tails in shame, and learn how to live without an understanding of anger, violence and aggression, and all that evil maliciousness we just don't have. TheWiseGuy
  • Score: 2

5:31pm Tue 5 Aug 14

TheWiseGuy says...

Oldtownmum wrote:
You slug wrote:
What a horrible, miserable looking bunch of NIMBYs. I’d say those who were going to live there have just had a lucky escape, imagine living amongst that lot.
As the father of a 20 year old autistic daughter currently living in supported living in Covingham with the White Horse Care Trust I can’t praise these organisations enough. The idea is not to put people who need help in big institutions like we used to do but to try and make their lives as normal as possible…..just like those as fortunate as ourselves. The neighbours where my daughter lives were a bit apprehensive at first but very quickly realised that they had nothing to worry about because believe it or not, people with autism are normal people which is more than can be said for a couple of posters on here.
Good luck to Autism Care and I hope you find somewhere much more suitable.

Oldtownmum you have no idea how offensive you are, I hope if ever you need help they stick you in a field where you can’t disturb anyone else and feed you with a catapult!!
I've not been offensive, I've been truthful. I've not said autistic people don't deserve to attempt to live a normal life, I've said that on a housing estate is not the right place. It would be very interesting to see how many of you would willingly have the house next door to you occupied by adults with Learning disabilities. Hmmm, though not.
Its such attitudes that caused USA to institutionalise and sterlise by court orders carry our a eugenics program that the Nasi's started copying on an industrial scale. My whole family is in the spectrum, and given ANY supportive and nurturing environment and not a system that takes children away from families for no good cause. In view of don't look, don't comment, don't care that happened in the 20's to 1945 and currently in Gaza do you not realise that ignorance, xenophobic and discrimination and cries of "I don't give a ****, it's someone else's problem, good riddance, I don't want to know". We all live in a world. I am as removed from Mundanes like you as any Aspie is to a lemur. I'm delighted not to have your genetic throwbacks and attitudes. Thank the Devine for us evolving your kind of sick attitudes behind.
[quote][p][bold]Oldtownmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You slug[/bold] wrote: What a horrible, miserable looking bunch of NIMBYs. I’d say those who were going to live there have just had a lucky escape, imagine living amongst that lot. As the father of a 20 year old autistic daughter currently living in supported living in Covingham with the White Horse Care Trust I can’t praise these organisations enough. The idea is not to put people who need help in big institutions like we used to do but to try and make their lives as normal as possible…..just like those as fortunate as ourselves. The neighbours where my daughter lives were a bit apprehensive at first but very quickly realised that they had nothing to worry about because believe it or not, people with autism are normal people which is more than can be said for a couple of posters on here. Good luck to Autism Care and I hope you find somewhere much more suitable. Oldtownmum you have no idea how offensive you are, I hope if ever you need help they stick you in a field where you can’t disturb anyone else and feed you with a catapult!![/p][/quote]I've not been offensive, I've been truthful. I've not said autistic people don't deserve to attempt to live a normal life, I've said that on a housing estate is not the right place. It would be very interesting to see how many of you would willingly have the house next door to you occupied by adults with Learning disabilities. Hmmm, though not.[/p][/quote]Its such attitudes that caused USA to institutionalise and sterlise by court orders carry our a eugenics program that the Nasi's started copying on an industrial scale. My whole family is in the spectrum, and given ANY supportive and nurturing environment and not a system that takes children away from families for no good cause. In view of don't look, don't comment, don't care that happened in the 20's to 1945 and currently in Gaza do you not realise that ignorance, xenophobic and discrimination and cries of "I don't give a ****, it's someone else's problem, good riddance, I don't want to know". We all live in a world. I am as removed from Mundanes like you as any Aspie is to a lemur. I'm delighted not to have your genetic throwbacks and attitudes. Thank the Devine for us evolving your kind of sick attitudes behind. TheWiseGuy
  • Score: 3

8:54pm Tue 5 Aug 14

TheWiseGuy says...

There is nothing truthful in the malicious, uninformed contrary to who and how we do things. You base a situation of expectation of every Aspies and each Auties to be a noisy menace, bot understanding that such vile, spiteful, monstrous attitudes could turn every loving and affectionate person in the spectrum into an anxiety attack to shout and respond. Don't you realise if you invade our space and we can sense such dark thoughts and feelings which we do not have any natural ability to comprehend that such attitudes and dark feelings which your words portray will cause a natural defensive action against such evil and vileness. We are evolving, positive and developing future, not some caveman looking to whack people with dark feelings or words. Cop yourself on. Learn to be a human first before you attempt to critique those of us that espouse a better society for all mankind. As National Secretary/CEO of the National Council for People with Disabilities, members and charitable companies and Co-ordinator/Advocae of ICAAN and scores of bodies, such behaviour makes me regret still having a British passport for such as yours brings naught but shame and menace to the world. Peace and Long Life as us Trekkers may say and on behalf of the Jedi Order, May you seek balance and composure in yourself and may the force be with you. http://irishstartrek
legacy.aspiesandauti
es.org/
There is nothing truthful in the malicious, uninformed contrary to who and how we do things. You base a situation of expectation of every Aspies and each Auties to be a noisy menace, bot understanding that such vile, spiteful, monstrous attitudes could turn every loving and affectionate person in the spectrum into an anxiety attack to shout and respond. Don't you realise if you invade our space and we can sense such dark thoughts and feelings which we do not have any natural ability to comprehend that such attitudes and dark feelings which your words portray will cause a natural defensive action against such evil and vileness. We are evolving, positive and developing future, not some caveman looking to whack people with dark feelings or words. Cop yourself on. Learn to be a human first before you attempt to critique those of us that espouse a better society for all mankind. As National Secretary/CEO of the National Council for People with Disabilities, members and charitable companies and Co-ordinator/Advocae of ICAAN and scores of bodies, such behaviour makes me regret still having a British passport for such as yours brings naught but shame and menace to the world. Peace and Long Life as us Trekkers may say and on behalf of the Jedi Order, May you seek balance and composure in yourself and may the force be with you. http://irishstartrek legacy.aspiesandauti es.org/ TheWiseGuy
  • Score: 1

11:33pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Sandor Clegane says...

Badgersgetabadname wrote:
This was backed by a councilor.
Details are easy to find get in contact and let them know how you feel general election coming.
Let them know fishing for the 20 odd votes from the estate is not the general consensus.
Maybe a good time to approach a cllr for other areas for support finding a new house?
The only time parties remember they work for the people are in the months leading to a GE.
Deluded fool as if anyone would bother.
The issue has past now and doesnt matter.
[quote][p][bold]Badgersgetabadname[/bold] wrote: This was backed by a councilor. Details are easy to find get in contact and let them know how you feel general election coming. Let them know fishing for the 20 odd votes from the estate is not the general consensus. Maybe a good time to approach a cllr for other areas for support finding a new house? The only time parties remember they work for the people are in the months leading to a GE.[/p][/quote]Deluded fool as if anyone would bother. The issue has past now and doesnt matter. Sandor Clegane
  • Score: -1

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