Protest to be held tonight against plans to move burnt Averies waste across town

Protest to be held tonight against plans to move burnt Averies waste across town

Protest to be held tonight against plans to move burnt Averies waste across town

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A PROTEST against plans to transfer burnt waste from the Averies Recycling blaze to the former Groundwell park and ride is taking place later today.

Concerned residents will be meeting outside the council-owned site at 5pm. Some of the non-hazardous waste from the Marshgate site is being moved to allow firefighters to deal with the fire faster.

The blaze has been going since July 21.

Firefighters are working with Averies, Swindon Council, NHS England, Wiltshire Police and the Environment Agency to deal with the incident.

Yesterday, it was announced that the authorities planned to move around half of the extinguished waste from Averies to the park and ride site.

Coun Mark Dempsey, (Lab, Walcot and Park North), said: “I’m really worried about the use of the park and ride site for the disposal of this waste. It is not designed or licensed for the storage of waste and I think it could cause problems for the surrounding community.

“I think the authorities should be looking to use a specialised site.”

As the park and ride compound is covered by trees, the authorities claim that the waste will be out of sight. All of the burnt waste will be fully extinguished and checked before being taken to the site. It will also be covered over to reduce any adverse smells.

In addition to the high perimeter fencing at the compound there will also be 24 hour security.

Once the Marshgate fire is put out the authorities aim to return the waste to Averies as soon as possible.

Anyone concerned about inhaling smoke should call NHS 111. Those wishing to report an environmental issue can call the Environment Agency on 0800 807060.

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12:14pm Thu 7 Aug 14

there-their-they're says...

Meanwhile, back in the Marshgate area, people are having to put up with possibly toxic air pollution and developing nasy chest infections.
If Averies are not shut down there are going to be a lot of angry people as well as compensation claims.
Meanwhile, back in the Marshgate area, people are having to put up with possibly toxic air pollution and developing nasy chest infections. If Averies are not shut down there are going to be a lot of angry people as well as compensation claims. there-their-they're
  • Score: 31

12:16pm Thu 7 Aug 14

sn5 says...

So a councillor is protesting that this is moving away from the residents he's meant to be representing - at least we now know Dempsey only cares about his Parliamentary asperations, not the residents he's elected to represent

As he does not want to represent the residents of Walcot & Park North he should stand down now & let some one who does care about them be their councillor
So a councillor is protesting that this is moving away from the residents he's meant to be representing - at least we now know Dempsey only cares about his Parliamentary asperations, not the residents he's elected to represent As he does not want to represent the residents of Walcot & Park North he should stand down now & let some one who does care about them be their councillor sn5
  • Score: -7

12:28pm Thu 7 Aug 14

mowgli says...

Get stuffed Dempsey, you're supposed to be representing the people affected by this but instead you're just looking for a photo opportunity. Stand for Parliament, lose, and don't come back to Walcot.
Get stuffed Dempsey, you're supposed to be representing the people affected by this but instead you're just looking for a photo opportunity. Stand for Parliament, lose, and don't come back to Walcot. mowgli
  • Score: -5

12:48pm Thu 7 Aug 14

house on the hill says...

sn5 wrote:
So a councillor is protesting that this is moving away from the residents he's meant to be representing - at least we now know Dempsey only cares about his Parliamentary asperations, not the residents he's elected to represent

As he does not want to represent the residents of Walcot & Park North he should stand down now & let some one who does care about them be their councillor
And you are surprised why? Self servence is a requirement on the job application for any political office!
[quote][p][bold]sn5[/bold] wrote: So a councillor is protesting that this is moving away from the residents he's meant to be representing - at least we now know Dempsey only cares about his Parliamentary asperations, not the residents he's elected to represent As he does not want to represent the residents of Walcot & Park North he should stand down now & let some one who does care about them be their councillor[/p][/quote]And you are surprised why? Self servence is a requirement on the job application for any political office! house on the hill
  • Score: 7

12:50pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Oik1 says...

Are the drainage systems at Groundwell Park and Ride suitable for extinguished waste products from Averies?
If it is extinguished waste then the chances are this will be full of water from the fire, if this runs into non commercial drains it will end up straight in the river / groundwater systems without treatment, is that good? I think not.
Are the drainage systems at Groundwell Park and Ride suitable for extinguished waste products from Averies? If it is extinguished waste then the chances are this will be full of water from the fire, if this runs into non commercial drains it will end up straight in the river / groundwater systems without treatment, is that good? I think not. Oik1
  • Score: 22

12:52pm Thu 7 Aug 14

robstfc says...

I live in the area near Groundwell..... I don't want that waste anywhere near me.... why should we accept it?

The waste needs to be placed in a specialised location that has the appropriate controls in place to ensure waste doesn't contaminate the surrounding environment.
I live in the area near Groundwell..... I don't want that waste anywhere near me.... why should we accept it? The waste needs to be placed in a specialised location that has the appropriate controls in place to ensure waste doesn't contaminate the surrounding environment. robstfc
  • Score: 26

12:59pm Thu 7 Aug 14

house on the hill says...

robstfc wrote:
I live in the area near Groundwell..... I don't want that waste anywhere near me.... why should we accept it?

The waste needs to be placed in a specialised location that has the appropriate controls in place to ensure waste doesn't contaminate the surrounding environment.
Not sure why was given a negative thumb, that makes perfect sense to me.
[quote][p][bold]robstfc[/bold] wrote: I live in the area near Groundwell..... I don't want that waste anywhere near me.... why should we accept it? The waste needs to be placed in a specialised location that has the appropriate controls in place to ensure waste doesn't contaminate the surrounding environment.[/p][/quote]Not sure why was given a negative thumb, that makes perfect sense to me. house on the hill
  • Score: 12

1:00pm Thu 7 Aug 14

robstfc says...

house on the hill wrote:
robstfc wrote:
I live in the area near Groundwell..... I don't want that waste anywhere near me.... why should we accept it?

The waste needs to be placed in a specialised location that has the appropriate controls in place to ensure waste doesn't contaminate the surrounding environment.
Not sure why was given a negative thumb, that makes perfect sense to me.
Me too!
[quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]robstfc[/bold] wrote: I live in the area near Groundwell..... I don't want that waste anywhere near me.... why should we accept it? The waste needs to be placed in a specialised location that has the appropriate controls in place to ensure waste doesn't contaminate the surrounding environment.[/p][/quote]Not sure why was given a negative thumb, that makes perfect sense to me.[/p][/quote]Me too! robstfc
  • Score: 14

1:18pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Hmmmf says...

Temporarily shifting the waste to Groundwell is probably a low-cost/no-cost operation for the Council. Moving the stuff to a 'specialist location' would probably cost the public purse a small fortune.
Of course, it's 'other people's money' so no surprises that a Labour councillor is advocating the more expensive option; it's an opportunity to bolster his own 'green eco-friendly solar renewables' agenda and credentials to his party mandarins in the run up to the election, at our expense.
Temporarily shifting the waste to Groundwell is probably a low-cost/no-cost operation for the Council. Moving the stuff to a 'specialist location' would probably cost the public purse a small fortune. Of course, it's 'other people's money' so no surprises that a Labour councillor is advocating the more expensive option; it's an opportunity to bolster his own 'green eco-friendly solar renewables' agenda and credentials to his party mandarins in the run up to the election, at our expense. Hmmmf
  • Score: -26

1:23pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Davey Gravey says...

robstfc wrote:
house on the hill wrote:
robstfc wrote:
I live in the area near Groundwell..... I don't want that waste anywhere near me.... why should we accept it?

The waste needs to be placed in a specialised location that has the appropriate controls in place to ensure waste doesn't contaminate the surrounding environment.
Not sure why was given a negative thumb, that makes perfect sense to me.
Me too!
Me three.
The thumbs are abused and are frankly a waste of time.
1 person can up or down vote a comment as many times as they like. And some do just that
[quote][p][bold]robstfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]robstfc[/bold] wrote: I live in the area near Groundwell..... I don't want that waste anywhere near me.... why should we accept it? The waste needs to be placed in a specialised location that has the appropriate controls in place to ensure waste doesn't contaminate the surrounding environment.[/p][/quote]Not sure why was given a negative thumb, that makes perfect sense to me.[/p][/quote]Me too![/p][/quote]Me three. The thumbs are abused and are frankly a waste of time. 1 person can up or down vote a comment as many times as they like. And some do just that Davey Gravey
  • Score: -3

1:30pm Thu 7 Aug 14

BCDR99 says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
robstfc wrote:
house on the hill wrote:
robstfc wrote:
I live in the area near Groundwell..... I don't want that waste anywhere near me.... why should we accept it?

The waste needs to be placed in a specialised location that has the appropriate controls in place to ensure waste doesn't contaminate the surrounding environment.
Not sure why was given a negative thumb, that makes perfect sense to me.
Me too!
Me three.
The thumbs are abused and are frankly a waste of time.
1 person can up or down vote a comment as many times as they like. And some do just that
For goodness sake, stop going on about these bloody thumbs, will you. Just write your point, read others, write something in reply and ignore the **** things.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]robstfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]robstfc[/bold] wrote: I live in the area near Groundwell..... I don't want that waste anywhere near me.... why should we accept it? The waste needs to be placed in a specialised location that has the appropriate controls in place to ensure waste doesn't contaminate the surrounding environment.[/p][/quote]Not sure why was given a negative thumb, that makes perfect sense to me.[/p][/quote]Me too![/p][/quote]Me three. The thumbs are abused and are frankly a waste of time. 1 person can up or down vote a comment as many times as they like. And some do just that[/p][/quote]For goodness sake, stop going on about these bloody thumbs, will you. Just write your point, read others, write something in reply and ignore the **** things. BCDR99
  • Score: 2

1:33pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Davey Gravey says...

BCDR99 wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
robstfc wrote:
house on the hill wrote:
robstfc wrote:
I live in the area near Groundwell..... I don't want that waste anywhere near me.... why should we accept it?

The waste needs to be placed in a specialised location that has the appropriate controls in place to ensure waste doesn't contaminate the surrounding environment.
Not sure why was given a negative thumb, that makes perfect sense to me.
Me too!
Me three.
The thumbs are abused and are frankly a waste of time.
1 person can up or down vote a comment as many times as they like. And some do just that
For goodness sake, stop going on about these bloody thumbs, will you. Just write your point, read others, write something in reply and ignore the **** things.
Calm down dear. Have a cup of tea and a biscuit
[quote][p][bold]BCDR99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]robstfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]robstfc[/bold] wrote: I live in the area near Groundwell..... I don't want that waste anywhere near me.... why should we accept it? The waste needs to be placed in a specialised location that has the appropriate controls in place to ensure waste doesn't contaminate the surrounding environment.[/p][/quote]Not sure why was given a negative thumb, that makes perfect sense to me.[/p][/quote]Me too![/p][/quote]Me three. The thumbs are abused and are frankly a waste of time. 1 person can up or down vote a comment as many times as they like. And some do just that[/p][/quote]For goodness sake, stop going on about these bloody thumbs, will you. Just write your point, read others, write something in reply and ignore the **** things.[/p][/quote]Calm down dear. Have a cup of tea and a biscuit Davey Gravey
  • Score: 4

1:43pm Thu 7 Aug 14

swindondad says...

Hmmmf wrote:
Temporarily shifting the waste to Groundwell is probably a low-cost/no-cost operation for the Council. Moving the stuff to a 'specialist location' would probably cost the public purse a small fortune.
Of course, it's 'other people's money' so no surprises that a Labour councillor is advocating the more expensive option; it's an opportunity to bolster his own 'green eco-friendly solar renewables' agenda and credentials to his party mandarins in the run up to the election, at our expense.
Why on earth are SBC (read taxpayer) arranging the removal and storage of this part burnt rubbish?

Averies have been paid to collect it from somewhere and "process" it so they should be arranging / paying for its removal and storage.
[quote][p][bold]Hmmmf[/bold] wrote: Temporarily shifting the waste to Groundwell is probably a low-cost/no-cost operation for the Council. Moving the stuff to a 'specialist location' would probably cost the public purse a small fortune. Of course, it's 'other people's money' so no surprises that a Labour councillor is advocating the more expensive option; it's an opportunity to bolster his own 'green eco-friendly solar renewables' agenda and credentials to his party mandarins in the run up to the election, at our expense.[/p][/quote]Why on earth are SBC (read taxpayer) arranging the removal and storage of this part burnt rubbish? Averies have been paid to collect it from somewhere and "process" it so they should be arranging / paying for its removal and storage. swindondad
  • Score: 37

1:52pm Thu 7 Aug 14

shewhocares says...

Because Averies are a bunch of cowboys who expect other people to dispose of their mess clearly! Good point actually how can we be sure that Averies are picking up the cost of all of this?
Because Averies are a bunch of cowboys who expect other people to dispose of their mess clearly! Good point actually how can we be sure that Averies are picking up the cost of all of this? shewhocares
  • Score: 33

1:56pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Davey Gravey says...

Just saw this issue on local news. It beggars the question, why on earth were averies allowed to stockpile so much rubbish?
There was tons of it just there left rotting and then sadly which caught fire.
That in itself was a health hazard was it not? Even prior to the fire it must of stank and attracted rats, seagulls, etc.
Just saw this issue on local news. It beggars the question, why on earth were averies allowed to stockpile so much rubbish? There was tons of it just there left rotting and then sadly which caught fire. That in itself was a health hazard was it not? Even prior to the fire it must of stank and attracted rats, seagulls, etc. Davey Gravey
  • Score: 18

2:05pm Thu 7 Aug 14

swindondad says...

“I’m really worried about the use of the park and ride site for the disposal of this waste. It is not designed or licensed for the storage of waste".

I have just re read the article and this sentence does raise an issue.
If SBC take responsibility for this rubbish and choose to move it to an un-lcensed site are they breaking the law. does it leave them open to prosecution / compensation claims.
“I’m really worried about the use of the park and ride site for the disposal of this waste. It is not designed or licensed for the storage of waste". I have just re read the article and this sentence does raise an issue. If SBC take responsibility for this rubbish and choose to move it to an un-lcensed site are they breaking the law. does it leave them open to prosecution / compensation claims. swindondad
  • Score: 21

2:19pm Thu 7 Aug 14

shewhocares says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Just saw this issue on local news. It beggars the question, why on earth were averies allowed to stockpile so much rubbish?
There was tons of it just there left rotting and then sadly which caught fire.
That in itself was a health hazard was it not? Even prior to the fire it must of stank and attracted rats, seagulls, etc.
therein lies the issue.....stockpilin
g so much rubbish!, it happened to the other site they own at cheney Manor!
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Just saw this issue on local news. It beggars the question, why on earth were averies allowed to stockpile so much rubbish? There was tons of it just there left rotting and then sadly which caught fire. That in itself was a health hazard was it not? Even prior to the fire it must of stank and attracted rats, seagulls, etc.[/p][/quote]therein lies the issue.....stockpilin g so much rubbish!, it happened to the other site they own at cheney Manor! shewhocares
  • Score: 14

2:19pm Thu 7 Aug 14

swindondad says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Just saw this issue on local news. It beggars the question, why on earth were averies allowed to stockpile so much rubbish?
There was tons of it just there left rotting and then sadly which caught fire.
That in itself was a health hazard was it not? Even prior to the fire it must of stank and attracted rats, seagulls, etc.
There are so many gills around Swindon you would swear you are on the south coast sometimes.

IMHO they are nothing but a pest and are overdue to be culled
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Just saw this issue on local news. It beggars the question, why on earth were averies allowed to stockpile so much rubbish? There was tons of it just there left rotting and then sadly which caught fire. That in itself was a health hazard was it not? Even prior to the fire it must of stank and attracted rats, seagulls, etc.[/p][/quote]There are so many gills around Swindon you would swear you are on the south coast sometimes. IMHO they are nothing but a pest and are overdue to be culled swindondad
  • Score: 9

2:34pm Thu 7 Aug 14

somwal25 says...

this is a knee jerk reaction by the various agencies involved as they have been criticised by the public for lack of action. the idea of moving the waste across the town to another site seems crazy is there going to be a set route and if so will the residents on that route be told of the extra traffic and smell.why cant it be stored at the community recycling centre at cheney manor.also the predicted weather for the weekend is possible thunder showers starting Friday night, as others have posted the drainage system is not suitable for the run off that the weather could produce does that mean SBC could be prosecuted for fouling the water system
this is a knee jerk reaction by the various agencies involved as they have been criticised by the public for lack of action. the idea of moving the waste across the town to another site seems crazy is there going to be a set route and if so will the residents on that route be told of the extra traffic and smell.why cant it be stored at the community recycling centre at cheney manor.also the predicted weather for the weekend is possible thunder showers starting Friday night, as others have posted the drainage system is not suitable for the run off that the weather could produce does that mean SBC could be prosecuted for fouling the water system somwal25
  • Score: 25

3:12pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Mushymushy says...

The council are clearing the groundwell site as we speak in perpetration the diggers and all sorts of equipment is in there so someone is going to foot the bill and interestingly also in another groundwell site just round the corner tons of burnt waste is currently being stored there. I don't think they are going to extinguish the waste there it's just the stuff that's already burnt but if that was the case there is a stream that runs into the river cole next to both sites which is what is causing the dilemma of putting it out in the first place.
The council are clearing the groundwell site as we speak in perpetration the diggers and all sorts of equipment is in there so someone is going to foot the bill and interestingly also in another groundwell site just round the corner tons of burnt waste is currently being stored there. I don't think they are going to extinguish the waste there it's just the stuff that's already burnt but if that was the case there is a stream that runs into the river cole next to both sites which is what is causing the dilemma of putting it out in the first place. Mushymushy
  • Score: 13

3:23pm Thu 7 Aug 14

nato86 says...

instead of moving it to the park and ride could they not just move it to a field down the a419 surely there's a farmer willing to be paid or something ,or am i just being dumb haha
instead of moving it to the park and ride could they not just move it to a field down the a419 surely there's a farmer willing to be paid or something ,or am i just being dumb haha nato86
  • Score: 13

3:40pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Dommo says...

Should Averies or their insurer not simply be paying for the extinguished waste to be transferred to another licensed waste disposal site? Rather than afflicting it on another set of residents.
Should Averies or their insurer not simply be paying for the extinguished waste to be transferred to another licensed waste disposal site? Rather than afflicting it on another set of residents. Dommo
  • Score: 16

3:48pm Thu 7 Aug 14

CllrDJGAZZAperky@HaydenMaSS says...

Thankfully SBC are finally sorting out this mess there is plenty of waste ground in the town. Dump it or bury it or whatever needs to be done lets move on.
Thankfully SBC are finally sorting out this mess there is plenty of waste ground in the town. Dump it or bury it or whatever needs to be done lets move on. CllrDJGAZZAperky@HaydenMaSS
  • Score: -14

3:50pm Thu 7 Aug 14

AC♡DC♡ says...

I personally think it is disgusting to allow the likes of these Companies to have landfill sites within Residential areas as these do encourage rats and vermin alike.

Also I live very close to the park & ride which they have previously stated is secure ! If this is the case then why is there always holes in the fence & children playing in there or Travellers setting up camp in there?
We being the local residents do not want this waste dumped here. I really do sympathise with the local residents & workers by Averies this is so not fair on them or their health.

Groundwell surely is not the best place for the waste to be dumped for Cricklade Road is a nightmare for traffic as it is without multiple trucks moving the waste. Bearing in mind the site is right next to a recreational sports field .

And surely moving it there is just going to spread the smell and toxic fumes more over Swindon.

The park & ride should be rebuilt as a skate or secure play area for the Children being big enough to house a youth Centre .
I personally think it is disgusting to allow the likes of these Companies to have landfill sites within Residential areas as these do encourage rats and vermin alike. Also I live very close to the park & ride which they have previously stated is secure ! If this is the case then why is there always holes in the fence & children playing in there or Travellers setting up camp in there? We being the local residents do not want this waste dumped here. I really do sympathise with the local residents & workers by Averies this is so not fair on them or their health. Groundwell surely is not the best place for the waste to be dumped for Cricklade Road is a nightmare for traffic as it is without multiple trucks moving the waste. Bearing in mind the site is right next to a recreational sports field . And surely moving it there is just going to spread the smell and toxic fumes more over Swindon. The park & ride should be rebuilt as a skate or secure play area for the Children being big enough to house a youth Centre . AC♡DC♡
  • Score: 13

3:54pm Thu 7 Aug 14

triago says...

What great advert for Swindon a stinking rat infested rubbish dump on its doorstep, that will really impress visitors coming of the A419. How about dumping it in Queens Park or the Town Gardens , Swindon Councilors need wake up.
What great advert for Swindon a stinking rat infested rubbish dump on its doorstep, that will really impress visitors coming of the A419. How about dumping it in Queens Park or the Town Gardens , Swindon Councilors need wake up. triago
  • Score: 19

5:16pm Thu 7 Aug 14

CllrDJGAZZAperky@HaydenMaSS says...

triago wrote:
What great advert for Swindon a stinking rat infested rubbish dump on its doorstep, that will really impress visitors coming of the A419. How about dumping it in Queens Park or the Town Gardens , Swindon Councilors need wake up.
They have, that is why they are taking this action to save the public purse.
You voted them in to make these tough decisions for you.
[quote][p][bold]triago[/bold] wrote: What great advert for Swindon a stinking rat infested rubbish dump on its doorstep, that will really impress visitors coming of the A419. How about dumping it in Queens Park or the Town Gardens , Swindon Councilors need wake up.[/p][/quote]They have, that is why they are taking this action to save the public purse. You voted them in to make these tough decisions for you. CllrDJGAZZAperky@HaydenMaSS
  • Score: -8

6:27pm Thu 7 Aug 14

somwal25 says...

CllrDJGAZZAperky@Hay
denMaSS
wrote:
triago wrote:
What great advert for Swindon a stinking rat infested rubbish dump on its doorstep, that will really impress visitors coming of the A419. How about dumping it in Queens Park or the Town Gardens , Swindon Councilors need wake up.
They have, that is why they are taking this action to save the public purse.
You voted them in to make these tough decisions for you.
SBC and all the other agencies have been like the Roman emperor Nero fiddled whilst Rome burned. if they all had acted when Averies was in court the fire would not of happened
[quote][p][bold]CllrDJGAZZAperky@Hay denMaSS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]triago[/bold] wrote: What great advert for Swindon a stinking rat infested rubbish dump on its doorstep, that will really impress visitors coming of the A419. How about dumping it in Queens Park or the Town Gardens , Swindon Councilors need wake up.[/p][/quote]They have, that is why they are taking this action to save the public purse. You voted them in to make these tough decisions for you.[/p][/quote]SBC and all the other agencies have been like the Roman emperor Nero fiddled whilst Rome burned. if they all had acted when Averies was in court the fire would not of happened somwal25
  • Score: -1

6:27pm Thu 7 Aug 14

somwal25 says...

CllrDJGAZZAperky@Hay
denMaSS
wrote:
triago wrote:
What great advert for Swindon a stinking rat infested rubbish dump on its doorstep, that will really impress visitors coming of the A419. How about dumping it in Queens Park or the Town Gardens , Swindon Councilors need wake up.
They have, that is why they are taking this action to save the public purse.
You voted them in to make these tough decisions for you.
SBC and all the other agencies have been like the Roman emperor Nero fiddled whilst Rome burned. if they all had acted when Averies was in court the fire would not of happened
[quote][p][bold]CllrDJGAZZAperky@Hay denMaSS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]triago[/bold] wrote: What great advert for Swindon a stinking rat infested rubbish dump on its doorstep, that will really impress visitors coming of the A419. How about dumping it in Queens Park or the Town Gardens , Swindon Councilors need wake up.[/p][/quote]They have, that is why they are taking this action to save the public purse. You voted them in to make these tough decisions for you.[/p][/quote]SBC and all the other agencies have been like the Roman emperor Nero fiddled whilst Rome burned. if they all had acted when Averies was in court the fire would not of happened somwal25
  • Score: 1

7:23pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Swindon ear says...

We have been told that the Groundwell Park and Ride site has been chosen as it has a firm Tarmac base that can be cleaned up easily later.
There is a much better site around Swindon which is unused, tarmac surfaced, larger and not near a large population. I mean the large runways of the Science Museum on the hill above Wroughton. I cannot see why the Science Museum would object as we have been told that the dump would removed quickly once the emergency is over.
We have been told that the Groundwell Park and Ride site has been chosen as it has a firm Tarmac base that can be cleaned up easily later. There is a much better site around Swindon which is unused, tarmac surfaced, larger and not near a large population. I mean the large runways of the Science Museum on the hill above Wroughton. I cannot see why the Science Museum would object as we have been told that the dump would removed quickly once the emergency is over. Swindon ear
  • Score: 5

9:11pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Ollie Dognacky says...

Where have all the comments gone 😳?
Where have all the comments gone 😳? Ollie Dognacky
  • Score: -2

9:17pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Ollie Dognacky says...

Ooh they're back now 😃
Anyhow I fail to see the logic of relocating waste to a temporary site.😕

It is waste. So dispose of it at a waste disposal site. Job done 👍
Ooh they're back now 😃 Anyhow I fail to see the logic of relocating waste to a temporary site.😕 It is waste. So dispose of it at a waste disposal site. Job done 👍 Ollie Dognacky
  • Score: 1

9:24pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Sandor Clegane says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
robstfc wrote:
house on the hill wrote:
robstfc wrote:
I live in the area near Groundwell..... I don't want that waste anywhere near me.... why should we accept it?

The waste needs to be placed in a specialised location that has the appropriate controls in place to ensure waste doesn't contaminate the surrounding environment.
Not sure why was given a negative thumb, that makes perfect sense to me.
Me too!
Me three.
The thumbs are abused and are frankly a waste of time.
1 person can up or down vote a comment as many times as they like. And some do just that
How else are we as a council to pay for work carried out.
The great unwashed will never understand what is good for them.
Sick of explaining it to you and your kind
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]robstfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]robstfc[/bold] wrote: I live in the area near Groundwell..... I don't want that waste anywhere near me.... why should we accept it? The waste needs to be placed in a specialised location that has the appropriate controls in place to ensure waste doesn't contaminate the surrounding environment.[/p][/quote]Not sure why was given a negative thumb, that makes perfect sense to me.[/p][/quote]Me too![/p][/quote]Me three. The thumbs are abused and are frankly a waste of time. 1 person can up or down vote a comment as many times as they like. And some do just that[/p][/quote]How else are we as a council to pay for work carried out. The great unwashed will never understand what is good for them. Sick of explaining it to you and your kind Sandor Clegane
  • Score: -5

9:40pm Thu 7 Aug 14

timt1964 says...

most of the people in swindon love to have something to moan about.the town is full of nimbys making something out of nothing.that park and ride is a dump already so whats the difference?! always residents whinging about new houses,autistic people,road works that dont meet their selfish standards..now this.there is no community spirit just the same old "aaaaghhh! we're all going to be poisoned,what about the children,there will be more traffic" attitude which the adver seems to encourage.protest all you like but this will go ahead and probably be forgotten in a few weeks when the next band of protesting residents are up in arms about a take away or something trivial.
most of the people in swindon love to have something to moan about.the town is full of nimbys making something out of nothing.that park and ride is a dump already so whats the difference?! always residents whinging about new houses,autistic people,road works that dont meet their selfish standards..now this.there is no community spirit just the same old "aaaaghhh! we're all going to be poisoned,what about the children,there will be more traffic" attitude which the adver seems to encourage.protest all you like but this will go ahead and probably be forgotten in a few weeks when the next band of protesting residents are up in arms about a take away or something trivial. timt1964
  • Score: 4

10:09pm Thu 7 Aug 14

yoreelsmyth10 says...

The word on the ground from the fire service is that Averies brought in a hire powered burner last week to carry out a controlled smoke free burn of the ignited waste which was requested by the fire service. It was stopped by the EA as the site did not have a permit to burn and would take three months to apply for!!! Maybe if this was allowed to happen the fire would be finished by now. Shame on you EA.
The word on the ground from the fire service is that Averies brought in a hire powered burner last week to carry out a controlled smoke free burn of the ignited waste which was requested by the fire service. It was stopped by the EA as the site did not have a permit to burn and would take three months to apply for!!! Maybe if this was allowed to happen the fire would be finished by now. Shame on you EA. yoreelsmyth10
  • Score: 11

10:19pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Ollie Dognacky says...

Spot the two logins used by the same arrogant councillor.
Obviously been out on the sauce tonight.
Common sense should predict that the waste is taken on one journey only.
It should be taken to a proper waste site. Not carted to and from temporary sites around Swindon.
Unfortunately common sense isn't a feature of Swindon Borough Clownskool is it?
Spot the two logins used by the same arrogant councillor. Obviously been out on the sauce tonight. Common sense should predict that the waste is taken on one journey only. It should be taken to a proper waste site. Not carted to and from temporary sites around Swindon. Unfortunately common sense isn't a feature of Swindon Borough Clownskool is it? Ollie Dognacky
  • Score: -1

10:24pm Thu 7 Aug 14

yoreelsmyth10 says...

Sorry, also forgot to say that they think that the fire could have been put out on the first night had they been allowed to use foam in the specialised fire pump that they brought across from the airport. The EA however were more interested in the trolly filled ditch next to the site. If its not the EA then its health and safety sticking their noses into every ones business.
Sorry, also forgot to say that they think that the fire could have been put out on the first night had they been allowed to use foam in the specialised fire pump that they brought across from the airport. The EA however were more interested in the trolly filled ditch next to the site. If its not the EA then its health and safety sticking their noses into every ones business. yoreelsmyth10
  • Score: 10

8:11am Fri 8 Aug 14

Mappy says...

Some criticism Has been made here about the input of our Prospective Parliamentary Candidate. The truth is that as there was no sign of him or our standing MP being aware of the situation - and why would they be when our own councillors had only been told the afternoon before. I made it my business to alert first the MP and then The PPC in that order. The first to reply was Mark Dempsey. Obviously he would be more interested Penhill and Upper Stratton Ward, it being a Labour Ward. As it happened he was away, but within an hour had spoken to our local councillors to get more facts and organised a demo and attendant media - which is just what we ALL need at present. Armed with the information and something to be invited to i.e the Demo, we set about sharing it on social media. Both Mark and Justin know the same would have happened for whichever of them had been first off the block. That it did Labour and Mark no harm at all and questions about where is the other one? were incidental to the message that we don't want that rubbish here. It won't spare the neighbourhoods currently suffering, because not all would be coming to Groundwell at once, so that means two areas of Swindon will be suffering, not just one. No one wants it buck-shove into another neighbourhood, it needs to be well away from habitation as possible. When we know for sure how it's getting here, you might all get a stinking lorry passing your door, maybe a half alight one. We don't know, our councillors are unable to tell us, because they were excluded from the meeting in the Borough to discuss it. David Renard's response is that no one could come up with a better idea, is disingenuous, because only a very small closed circle knew what they were contemplating, so how could anyone suggest anywhere else?
So two issues here, a pile of rubbish and rubbish democracy! We'll focus on the former and keep the latter in mind for mulling over afterwards.
Do rats really live an run in piles of hot ash?
Some criticism Has been made here about the input of our Prospective Parliamentary Candidate. The truth is that as there was no sign of him or our standing MP being aware of the situation - and why would they be when our own councillors had only been told the afternoon before. I made it my business to alert first the MP and then The PPC in that order. The first to reply was Mark Dempsey. Obviously he would be more interested Penhill and Upper Stratton Ward, it being a Labour Ward. As it happened he was away, but within an hour had spoken to our local councillors to get more facts and organised a demo and attendant media - which is just what we ALL need at present. Armed with the information and something to be invited to i.e the Demo, we set about sharing it on social media. Both Mark and Justin know the same would have happened for whichever of them had been first off the block. That it did Labour and Mark no harm at all and questions about where is the other one? were incidental to the message that we don't want that rubbish here. It won't spare the neighbourhoods currently suffering, because not all would be coming to Groundwell at once, so that means two areas of Swindon will be suffering, not just one. No one wants it buck-shove into another neighbourhood, it needs to be well away from habitation as possible. When we know for sure how it's getting here, you might all get a stinking lorry passing your door, maybe a half alight one. We don't know, our councillors are unable to tell us, because they were excluded from the meeting in the Borough to discuss it. David Renard's response is that no one could come up with a better idea, is disingenuous, because only a very small closed circle knew what they were contemplating, so how could anyone suggest anywhere else? So two issues here, a pile of rubbish and rubbish democracy! We'll focus on the former and keep the latter in mind for mulling over afterwards. Do rats really live an run in piles of hot ash? Mappy
  • Score: 2

10:12am Fri 8 Aug 14

Sandor Clegane says...

Ollie Dognacky wrote:
Spot the two logins used by the same arrogant councillor.
Obviously been out on the sauce tonight.
Common sense should predict that the waste is taken on one journey only.
It should be taken to a proper waste site. Not carted to and from temporary sites around Swindon.
Unfortunately common sense isn't a feature of Swindon Borough Clownskool is it?
LIAR.

Stop cloning my account please.
[quote][p][bold]Ollie Dognacky[/bold] wrote: Spot the two logins used by the same arrogant councillor. Obviously been out on the sauce tonight. Common sense should predict that the waste is taken on one journey only. It should be taken to a proper waste site. Not carted to and from temporary sites around Swindon. Unfortunately common sense isn't a feature of Swindon Borough Clownskool is it?[/p][/quote]LIAR. Stop cloning my account please. Sandor Clegane
  • Score: 2

10:59am Fri 8 Aug 14

Davey Gravey says...

Sandor Clegane wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
robstfc wrote:
house on the hill wrote:
robstfc wrote:
I live in the area near Groundwell..... I don't want that waste anywhere near me.... why should we accept it?

The waste needs to be placed in a specialised location that has the appropriate controls in place to ensure waste doesn't contaminate the surrounding environment.
Not sure why was given a negative thumb, that makes perfect sense to me.
Me too!
Me three.
The thumbs are abused and are frankly a waste of time.
1 person can up or down vote a comment as many times as they like. And some do just that
How else are we as a council to pay for work carried out.
The great unwashed will never understand what is good for them.
Sick of explaining it to you and your kind
Even I'm getting bored of me keep going on about the thumbs all the time. Gives me something to moan about and I do like a good moan. I'll moan about anything really but the thumbs most of all.
[quote][p][bold]Sandor Clegane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]robstfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]house on the hill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]robstfc[/bold] wrote: I live in the area near Groundwell..... I don't want that waste anywhere near me.... why should we accept it? The waste needs to be placed in a specialised location that has the appropriate controls in place to ensure waste doesn't contaminate the surrounding environment.[/p][/quote]Not sure why was given a negative thumb, that makes perfect sense to me.[/p][/quote]Me too![/p][/quote]Me three. The thumbs are abused and are frankly a waste of time. 1 person can up or down vote a comment as many times as they like. And some do just that[/p][/quote]How else are we as a council to pay for work carried out. The great unwashed will never understand what is good for them. Sick of explaining it to you and your kind[/p][/quote]Even I'm getting bored of me keep going on about the thumbs all the time. Gives me something to moan about and I do like a good moan. I'll moan about anything really but the thumbs most of all. Davey Gravey
  • Score: 2

12:50pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Ollie Dognacky says...

Looks like the mental councillor is going to start "cloning" accounts whilst pretending to be a victim again.
Get some help ar$ehole
Looks like the mental councillor is going to start "cloning" accounts whilst pretending to be a victim again. Get some help ar$ehole Ollie Dognacky
  • Score: 2

3:18pm Sat 9 Aug 14

trolley dolley says...

The fire service should get on with the job and put out the fire.

It is a disgrace that they have not done this already.

What is the point of having so called professionals if they cannot do the job they are paid to do.

When they are next on strike and demanding more money, remember this incompetence.
The fire service should get on with the job and put out the fire. It is a disgrace that they have not done this already. What is the point of having so called professionals if they cannot do the job they are paid to do. When they are next on strike and demanding more money, remember this incompetence. trolley dolley
  • Score: 1

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