Compensation bids as blaze continues

Michael McNicholas

Michael McNicholas

First published in News Swindon Advertiser: Photograph of the Author by , @BerenCross

COMPENSATION is being sought by angry residents and workers affected by the endless blaze at Averies Recycling in Marshgate.

Those affected by the waste fire were encouraged to attend an open clinic at The Great Western Hotel in Station Road yesterday, where legal advisors were on hand to assess individual cases.

Paul Rooney Solicitors, a legal firm based out of Liverpool and Manchester, has been monitoring the fire from afar for several weeks.

Michael McNicholas, 22, works as a bench fitter with Vicaima, an interior door manufacturer in Greenbridge Industrial Estate.

He lives in Walcot Road and said he deals with heavy coughs and headaches on a daily basis as he cycles through the smog to and from work.

“I’m quite annoyed because we would’ve expected it to be out in a couple of days, but it’s still going on,” he said.

“All the people I know are getting frustrated with how they haven’t managed to deal with it.

“We want to see it moved to a different site because it’s a bit silly now. We also want there to be checks to see how much waste he has in there.”

Michael said the hot weather prevented him from closing the shutters at his home in Walcot Road, where black smoke from the fire has proved a nuisance for all.

Another resident who has suffered is Nick O’Kane, 21, and his girlfriend.

Nick lives in Nythe Road and his girlfriend works at the Gala Bingo outlet in Greenbridge Retail Park.

He said: “My girlfriend and her colleagues have been really badly affected. Their reception faces the direction of the fire and they can’t close the doors there when it’s hot.

“Customers have had to go home halfway through a session. They are older people and they can’t breathe properly if they stay any longer.

“My girlfriend gets a lot more tired than she used to and seems to get headaches quite often.”

David Gibson, head of marketing at Paul Rooney, said: “We had media alerts to what’s going on. If there’s a case or situation where people may have been injured, we are alerted to that.

“If the incident is a fire which has been burning for a long time, and the Environment Agency or fire brigade are involved, there is likely to be a lot of smoke which holds.

“We never know if this has created the problems until we are on the ground, but there has been a lot of interest on the phones.”

Anyone who is being affected by smoke from the fire is asked to seek medical advice by calling their GP or NHS 111.

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6:53am Fri 29 Aug 14

Wigmeister says...

Ker-ching!
Ker-ching! Wigmeister
  • Score: 22

8:34am Fri 29 Aug 14

A.Baron-Cohen says...

That is surely the best way to shut this business down and bankrupt the owner, I approve 200%
That is surely the best way to shut this business down and bankrupt the owner, I approve 200% A.Baron-Cohen
  • Score: 26

9:53am Fri 29 Aug 14

Ollie Dognacky says...

A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
That is surely the best way to shut this business down and bankrupt the owner, I approve 200%
Right with you on that one👍
[quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: That is surely the best way to shut this business down and bankrupt the owner, I approve 200%[/p][/quote]Right with you on that one👍 Ollie Dognacky
  • Score: -6

10:21am Fri 29 Aug 14

princesshelen68 says...

Shame the compensation won't extend to employees of Marshgate that were left without a job and no communication from Averies..I hope he loses everything ...including his mortgage free home in Wanborough..!! KARMA !!
Shame the compensation won't extend to employees of Marshgate that were left without a job and no communication from Averies..I hope he loses everything ...including his mortgage free home in Wanborough..!! KARMA !! princesshelen68
  • Score: 29

10:34am Fri 29 Aug 14

trolley dolley says...

Why has it taken so long for people to react to the dangers from the toxins released by this fire.

I have been asking for answers about the fumes and particles and what danger they posed for several weeks now.

I called the Advertiser and asked them to find out if there were any dangers. There reply was that the EA had looked but found no problem.

I have also asked the council under the freedom of information act.

So I ask again,

1. Have any toxins been released and is the air quality being monitored.
2. If yes, what are they.
3. What are the health implications for local people.

Why are the local councillors so quiet, they should be out there asking for answers and reassurance.
Why has it taken so long for people to react to the dangers from the toxins released by this fire. I have been asking for answers about the fumes and particles and what danger they posed for several weeks now. I called the Advertiser and asked them to find out if there were any dangers. There reply was that the EA had looked but found no problem. I have also asked the council under the freedom of information act. So I ask again, 1. Have any toxins been released and is the air quality being monitored. 2. If yes, what are they. 3. What are the health implications for local people. Why are the local councillors so quiet, they should be out there asking for answers and reassurance. trolley dolley
  • Score: 44

11:45am Fri 29 Aug 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

The silence of councilors on this matter has been deafening. The investigation for this issue and the fire at the other site must be in depth and followed to whatever conclusion it comes to.
Someone has allowed this to happen, there is no way audits have been carried out as they were supposed to be signed off.

Compensation is one thing but how do we know that this man and his associates cannot just set up again?
How do we know other sites are being run correctly if the council are being this lax with this site surely the others have been allowed to get away with similar errors in process.
Where is evidence to show how site are being checked and were Averies subject to the same process? If not why not?
For the EA to say there is nothing harmful in the smoke does seem strange surely a by product of materials burning would put harmful debris into the air.
Would be really interested to see where this is in three months time?
The silence of councilors on this matter has been deafening. The investigation for this issue and the fire at the other site must be in depth and followed to whatever conclusion it comes to. Someone has allowed this to happen, there is no way audits have been carried out as they were supposed to be signed off. Compensation is one thing but how do we know that this man and his associates cannot just set up again? How do we know other sites are being run correctly if the council are being this lax with this site surely the others have been allowed to get away with similar errors in process. Where is evidence to show how site are being checked and were Averies subject to the same process? If not why not? For the EA to say there is nothing harmful in the smoke does seem strange surely a by product of materials burning would put harmful debris into the air. Would be really interested to see where this is in three months time? Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -2

12:08pm Fri 29 Aug 14

house on the hill says...

Ollie Dognacky wrote:
A.Baron-Cohen wrote:
That is surely the best way to shut this business down and bankrupt the owner, I approve 200%
Right with you on that one👍
Depends on how much money there is in the business and is probably a limited company so his private assets will be safe or in his wifes name or some scam. How long before he "recycles" his business somewhere else with a different name and a different family member on the lease? Lock him up.
[quote][p][bold]Ollie Dognacky[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A.Baron-Cohen[/bold] wrote: That is surely the best way to shut this business down and bankrupt the owner, I approve 200%[/p][/quote]Right with you on that one👍[/p][/quote]Depends on how much money there is in the business and is probably a limited company so his private assets will be safe or in his wifes name or some scam. How long before he "recycles" his business somewhere else with a different name and a different family member on the lease? Lock him up. house on the hill
  • Score: 27

12:08pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Chrisg46 says...

trolley dolley wrote:
Why has it taken so long for people to react to the dangers from the toxins released by this fire.

I have been asking for answers about the fumes and particles and what danger they posed for several weeks now.

I called the Advertiser and asked them to find out if there were any dangers. There reply was that the EA had looked but found no problem.

I have also asked the council under the freedom of information act.

So I ask again,

1. Have any toxins been released and is the air quality being monitored.
2. If yes, what are they.
3. What are the health implications for local people.

Why are the local councillors so quiet, they should be out there asking for answers and reassurance.
Surely the answer is above - "The EA had looked but found no problem". Why keep asking a question that has been answered?
[quote][p][bold]trolley dolley[/bold] wrote: Why has it taken so long for people to react to the dangers from the toxins released by this fire. I have been asking for answers about the fumes and particles and what danger they posed for several weeks now. I called the Advertiser and asked them to find out if there were any dangers. There reply was that the EA had looked but found no problem. I have also asked the council under the freedom of information act. So I ask again, 1. Have any toxins been released and is the air quality being monitored. 2. If yes, what are they. 3. What are the health implications for local people. Why are the local councillors so quiet, they should be out there asking for answers and reassurance.[/p][/quote]Surely the answer is above - "The EA had looked but found no problem". Why keep asking a question that has been answered? Chrisg46
  • Score: -1

12:46pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Ollie Dognacky says...

Because suggesting that breathing in dirty smoke for a month is "no problem" is not an informative reply 🚶
Because suggesting that breathing in dirty smoke for a month is "no problem" is not an informative reply 🚶 Ollie Dognacky
  • Score: -2

1:14pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Alan Bast*rd says...

A complete and utter shambles.
PUT THE **** FIRE OUT!!!!!!
A complete and utter shambles. PUT THE **** FIRE OUT!!!!!! Alan Bast*rd
  • Score: 1

2:26pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Sandor Clegane says...

Walked past the site yesterday and there seemed to be an awful lot of firemen sitting around doing absolute nothing in their 'Welfare' tent. They also had an all-important Chaplain on hand as the fire merrily raged on.

Would love to know who's paying for all this.
Walked past the site yesterday and there seemed to be an awful lot of firemen sitting around doing absolute nothing in their 'Welfare' tent. They also had an all-important Chaplain on hand as the fire merrily raged on. Would love to know who's paying for all this. Sandor Clegane
  • Score: 45

2:47pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Sandor Clegane wrote:
Walked past the site yesterday and there seemed to be an awful lot of firemen sitting around doing absolute nothing in their 'Welfare' tent. They also had an all-important Chaplain on hand as the fire merrily raged on.

Would love to know who's paying for all this.
You do seem determined to blame the fire services for this...
Did they store the waste?
Did they arrange for combustible materials to be stores next to flammable material?
Are the fire service responsible for his H&S audits?
Did they carry out regular audits on levels of waste?

I am sure you and your colleagues at the council would be aware of exactly how the process works.
So why would the council or anyone within it want to deflect blame?
[quote][p][bold]Sandor Clegane[/bold] wrote: Walked past the site yesterday and there seemed to be an awful lot of firemen sitting around doing absolute nothing in their 'Welfare' tent. They also had an all-important Chaplain on hand as the fire merrily raged on. Would love to know who's paying for all this.[/p][/quote]You do seem determined to blame the fire services for this... Did they store the waste? Did they arrange for combustible materials to be stores next to flammable material? Are the fire service responsible for his H&S audits? Did they carry out regular audits on levels of waste? I am sure you and your colleagues at the council would be aware of exactly how the process works. So why would the council or anyone within it want to deflect blame? Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -25

3:37pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Sandor Clegane says...

In what way have I 'blamed the fire services' for the fire?
In what way have I 'blamed the fire services' for the fire? Sandor Clegane
  • Score: 33

4:48pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Wigmeister says...

Every cloud has a silver lining...literally!
Every cloud has a silver lining...literally! Wigmeister
  • Score: 13

6:27pm Fri 29 Aug 14

somwal25 says...

all the more reason to sign the e petition for a public enquiry. also look him up on company check and found active director 5 companies resigned from 4 and 15 appointments to 15 companies now dissolved
busy man?????
all the more reason to sign the e petition for a public enquiry. also look him up on company check and found active director 5 companies resigned from 4 and 15 appointments to 15 companies now dissolved busy man????? somwal25
  • Score: 27

11:47pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Chrisg46 says...

Ollie Dognacky wrote:
Because suggesting that breathing in dirty smoke for a month is "no problem" is not an informative reply 🚶
Yes it is, it informs you that it is not a problem. Just because it's not the one you want does make it uninformative.
[quote][p][bold]Ollie Dognacky[/bold] wrote: Because suggesting that breathing in dirty smoke for a month is "no problem" is not an informative reply 🚶[/p][/quote]Yes it is, it informs you that it is not a problem. Just because it's not the one you want does make it uninformative. Chrisg46
  • Score: 11

12:21am Sat 30 Aug 14

Ollie Dognacky says...

Only in the context of you telling us that you only use one login 😏
Only in the context of you telling us that you only use one login 😏 Ollie Dognacky
  • Score: -1

11:53am Sat 30 Aug 14

messyits says...

To all the folk seeking compensation--at the beginning of this fire I suggested anyone affected should resort to legal action to claim compensation. Do look for local solicitors rather than the ambulance chasers who are likely to take a high percentage of the settlement by only acting as agents for lawyers presenting the case..
This will require lawyers specialising in public law due to the public bodies involved as no doubt questions will arise as to lack of measures to allow the fire service to put out the fire at a very early stage.
Good luck to you all.
To all the folk seeking compensation--at the beginning of this fire I suggested anyone affected should resort to legal action to claim compensation. Do look for local solicitors rather than the ambulance chasers who are likely to take a high percentage of the settlement by only acting as agents for lawyers presenting the case.. This will require lawyers specialising in public law due to the public bodies involved as no doubt questions will arise as to lack of measures to allow the fire service to put out the fire at a very early stage. Good luck to you all. messyits
  • Score: 1

2:01pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Iinandout says...

princesshelen68 wrote:
Shame the compensation won't extend to employees of Marshgate that were left without a job and no communication from Averies..I hope he loses everything ...including his mortgage free home in Wanborough..!! KARMA !!
How come you got it in for averies so much did he sack you and where you a manager there.As for losing it all there are still office/drivers/picke
rs from marshgate working and trying to stay in a job to pay there rent/mortgage.So lets hope he dont lose it all so averies can pay the fines they will get after this is all over and keep the people in work.
[quote][p][bold]princesshelen68[/bold] wrote: Shame the compensation won't extend to employees of Marshgate that were left without a job and no communication from Averies..I hope he loses everything ...including his mortgage free home in Wanborough..!! KARMA !![/p][/quote]How come you got it in for averies so much did he sack you and where you a manager there.As for losing it all there are still office/drivers/picke rs from marshgate working and trying to stay in a job to pay there rent/mortgage.So lets hope he dont lose it all so averies can pay the fines they will get after this is all over and keep the people in work. Iinandout
  • Score: -8

3:44pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Ollie Dognacky says...

@ linandout,
Of course people have "got it in for Averies"
You've been choking people and making some lives a misery for weeks 😷
@ linandout, Of course people have "got it in for Averies" You've been choking people and making some lives a misery for weeks 😷 Ollie Dognacky
  • Score: -1

6:11pm Sat 30 Aug 14

somwal25 says...

linandout do you think its acceptable that i spent two hours up A&E today with breathing problems due to the fumes from the fire. there are various ways of getting compensation which can include suing individuals as well as a company
linandout do you think its acceptable that i spent two hours up A&E today with breathing problems due to the fumes from the fire. there are various ways of getting compensation which can include suing individuals as well as a company somwal25
  • Score: 28

10:26pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Iinandout says...

Ollie Dognacky wrote:
@ linandout,
Of course people have "got it in for Averies"
You've been choking people and making some lives a misery for weeks 😷
I have you know I am nothing to do with Averies.
[quote][p][bold]Ollie Dognacky[/bold] wrote: @ linandout, Of course people have "got it in for Averies" You've been choking people and making some lives a misery for weeks 😷[/p][/quote]I have you know I am nothing to do with Averies. Iinandout
  • Score: 2

10:29pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Iinandout says...

somwal25 wrote:
linandout do you think its acceptable that i spent two hours up A&E today with breathing problems due to the fumes from the fire. there are various ways of getting compensation which can include suing individuals as well as a company
Compensation should make it better then.
[quote][p][bold]somwal25[/bold] wrote: linandout do you think its acceptable that i spent two hours up A&E today with breathing problems due to the fumes from the fire. there are various ways of getting compensation which can include suing individuals as well as a company[/p][/quote]Compensation should make it better then. Iinandout
  • Score: -5

11:17pm Sat 30 Aug 14

somwal25 says...

Iinandout wrote:
somwal25 wrote:
linandout do you think its acceptable that i spent two hours up A&E today with breathing problems due to the fumes from the fire. there are various ways of getting compensation which can include suing individuals as well as a company
Compensation should make it better then.
compensation is not the be all and end all. the solution is to make sure this does not happen again twice is to often answers are needed as to why the authorities allowed it to happen and to make sure it cant happen again. not once have stated that i would be seeking compensation i was just stating a fact that there several ways people can claim compensation.
[quote][p][bold]Iinandout[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]somwal25[/bold] wrote: linandout do you think its acceptable that i spent two hours up A&E today with breathing problems due to the fumes from the fire. there are various ways of getting compensation which can include suing individuals as well as a company[/p][/quote]Compensation should make it better then.[/p][/quote]compensation is not the be all and end all. the solution is to make sure this does not happen again twice is to often answers are needed as to why the authorities allowed it to happen and to make sure it cant happen again. not once have stated that i would be seeking compensation i was just stating a fact that there several ways people can claim compensation. somwal25
  • Score: 30

3:26am Sun 31 Aug 14

mug? says...

I don't want compensation. I just want someone to suffer in the same way I and many other people are.

ie: Force Lee Averies to be on site without any protective breathing apparatus for the duration of the fire. Then maybe he'll find some compassion and think twice about subjecting people to this in the future.

I've been coughing up **** for the last 3 - going on 4 weeks now and haven't been able to exercise because of it.

This site should have it's licence removed and should never have waste stored there again.
I don't want compensation. I just want someone to suffer in the same way I and many other people are. ie: Force Lee Averies to be on site without any protective breathing apparatus for the duration of the fire. Then maybe he'll find some compassion and think twice about subjecting people to this in the future. I've been coughing up **** for the last 3 - going on 4 weeks now and haven't been able to exercise because of it. This site should have it's licence removed and should never have waste stored there again. mug?
  • Score: 25

3:48pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Badgersgetabadname says...

Iinandout wrote:
princesshelen68 wrote:
Shame the compensation won't extend to employees of Marshgate that were left without a job and no communication from Averies..I hope he loses everything ...including his mortgage free home in Wanborough..!! KARMA !!
How come you got it in for averies so much did he sack you and where you a manager there.As for losing it all there are still office/drivers/picke

rs from marshgate working and trying to stay in a job to pay there rent/mortgage.So lets hope he dont lose it all so averies can pay the fines they will get after this is all over and keep the people in work.
They would be taken care of as part of any compensation package. The only people put out by this should be owners and shareholders.
The contempt shown for local residents and other businesses is shocking. Averies as a company dont seem to care about harm caused to the people of Swindon.
It is impossible to calculate future health problems people may have as a result of at best blatant negligence at worst criminal actions. All people / companies that have profited from this business need to be held to account . Audits would of been carried out and signed off by chairmen and board so all would of been aware. None of the named people should be allowed near similar businesses ever again.
[quote][p][bold]Iinandout[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]princesshelen68[/bold] wrote: Shame the compensation won't extend to employees of Marshgate that were left without a job and no communication from Averies..I hope he loses everything ...including his mortgage free home in Wanborough..!! KARMA !![/p][/quote]How come you got it in for averies so much did he sack you and where you a manager there.As for losing it all there are still office/drivers/picke rs from marshgate working and trying to stay in a job to pay there rent/mortgage.So lets hope he dont lose it all so averies can pay the fines they will get after this is all over and keep the people in work.[/p][/quote]They would be taken care of as part of any compensation package. The only people put out by this should be owners and shareholders. The contempt shown for local residents and other businesses is shocking. Averies as a company dont seem to care about harm caused to the people of Swindon. It is impossible to calculate future health problems people may have as a result of at best blatant negligence at worst criminal actions. All people / companies that have profited from this business need to be held to account . Audits would of been carried out and signed off by chairmen and board so all would of been aware. None of the named people should be allowed near similar businesses ever again. Badgersgetabadname
  • Score: -3

7:07pm Sun 31 Aug 14

trolley dolley says...

And what do our councillors think !!!
And what do our councillors think !!! trolley dolley
  • Score: 18

8:52pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Alain Menai says...

I suspect that our Councillors don't think anything. They will just trot out the same old tired platitudes until the Council Officer with The brain cell get's back from holiday.

I would be impressed if they got off their 'shinies' and went and gave Trumpton a hand to sort the disgusting mess out. Unfortunately Elf n Safety prevents them from actually doing anything useful.

Lets hope that the people affected don't have to suffer for much longer.
I suspect that our Councillors don't think anything. They will just trot out the same old tired platitudes until the Council Officer with The brain cell get's back from holiday. I would be impressed if they got off their 'shinies' and went and gave Trumpton a hand to sort the disgusting mess out. Unfortunately Elf n Safety prevents them from actually doing anything useful. Lets hope that the people affected don't have to suffer for much longer. Alain Menai
  • Score: 1
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