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BNP told: hands off St George's Day

6:52pm Thursday 22nd March 2007

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THE Mayor of Swindon has hit out at attempts by the BNP to take credit for a St George's Day charity concert.

Mike Bawden said that the event on April 23, to be held in the council's chamber, was about celebrating the national day and raising money for the Prospect@Home appeal and should not be politicised in any way.

Swindon British National Party falsely told supporters on its website the concert on April 23 was "BNP approved".

Mr Bawden said: "This event has had nothing at all to do with the BNP.

"They have had no involvement in organising it and there is no way the borough council would enter into any arrangement with them as an organisation.

"The borough's position is very clear in that we don't agree with their objectives.

"I would in no way want any political party to feel it had a monopoly on the evening.

"I believe the general public will look on this event as an opportunity to have an evening of good music and also an evening to raise money for the local Prospect Hospice."

Swindon Advertiser editor Mark Waldron said: "St George's Day is a celebration of England and everything associated with it.

"That includes tolerance and multiculturalism, which are definitely not words you associate with an organisation such as the BNP."

The Adver-backed concert will be held at the Civic Offices in Euclid Street.

It is thought to be the first time that music has been performed inside the chamber, where council decisions are normally made.

The BNP claimed it was the "vanguard of the campaign" to organise the event and used the occasion as an opportunity to spout far-right rhetoric.

The extremist party said: "It is a reflection of the growing resentment over how our culture and national identity has been eroded over the years. People are rightly proud to be English and are getting increasingly assertive in reminding proponents of multiculturalism that this is England, we are the English and this is our country."

After reports that the Kentwood Show Choir will end the concert with performances of Jerusalem, I Vow to Thee My Country and Rule Britannia, the BNP gave its blessing to the running order.

It said: "An excellent choice in our opinion - guaranteed to really upset the Labour party and liberal left."

BNP Wiltshire organiser Mike Howson said that he thought the party was justified in trying to give the public event a political motive.

"We will support anything that supports our culture and priorities and if that makes it political, so be it," he said.

"We will do everything we can to celebrate British culture, that's why we are backing it.

"Lately we have had more and more support in Swindon, and I think it is the fact that the BNP is around that is why the council has taken notice of English and British culture."

The Swindon Advertiser launched the Prospect appeal to raise money to help fund a scheme which will see nurses giving palliative care to people in their own homes 24 hours a day.


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Gavin, swindon says...
8:09pm Thu 22 Mar 07

BNP Suppoters are sick in the head, being british means being tolerant and support other cultures as the adver has said above!

The party really needs to get a life or just move to another country lol.

Dan, . says...
8:46pm Thu 22 Mar 07

If the BNP are extremists, then Labour, Tories, and the liberals must be the devil!

Ironside, Swindon says...
8:48pm Thu 22 Mar 07

Hilarious!

The article on the BNP website certainly doesn't read anything like the dear old Adver has presented it.

Poor old Adver, bit of a slow news day was it?

Effing idiots!!!

B Bragger, says...
9:11pm Thu 22 Mar 07

BNP, Racist thugs,blah blah, dont you know multiculturalism is great, everyones happy, dancing in the streets etc. How happy I am to see on television the vibrancy of ethnic enrichment in East London where misunderstood youths enrich each other on a daily basis. How I wish I could live there and experience it first hand. Instead of having to live in my £1,000,000 mansion in rural Whitetown by the Sea

J. Robinson, Surrey says...
9:41pm Thu 22 Mar 07

No doubt that without the prescence of the BNP this event would never have got off the ground, it's long overdue and high time our own culture was celebrated for a change, long may it continue and i shall be voting BNP in may.

Graham T, Swindon says...
9:50pm Thu 22 Mar 07

Swindon councillors are afraid of losing their seats to the British National Party hence their sudden surge in Englishness.

Well done to the BNP for standing up for OUR English patron saint and OUR culture!

just patriotic, trowbridge says...
9:54pm Thu 22 Mar 07

May the 3rd is BNP day

Bill, wootton says...
12:07am Fri 23 Mar 07

It looks like the Advertiser has been caught out fibbing to its readers!

According to the Advertiser "Swindon British National Party falsely told supporters on its website the concert on April 23 was "BNP approved".

However it is clear from the BNP article concerned that this phrase "BNP approved" means that they approve of it - not that thay have approved it.

A big and obvious difference - but not to the mindbenders at the foreign-owned Swindon Advertiser apparently!

The full BNP article reads as follows:

"There was a time when St. George’s Day was a largely ignored and forgotten politically-incorrect old English tradition. Then of course the BNP began promoting it with much waving and display of the “Crusader” flag, with the result that embarrassed councils were forced to bow to growing public opinion and to fly it once again from corporation flagpoles!

As the BNP has been at the vanguard of this campaign for some years there is no reason why we shouldn't claim some credit for its success! In fact we retrieved the flag of St. George from the gutter where the Lib-Lab-Conmen had slung it and made them put it back where it belongs!

The news that Swindon Council are to hold a special St. George’s Day concert in the main chamber of the civic offices has been met with much enthusiasm and approval by Swindon British National Party. “It’s a reflection of the growing resentment over how our culture and national identity has been eroded over the years - people are rightly proud to be English and are getting increasingly assertive in reminding proponents of multiculturalism that this is England, we are the English and this is OUR country!”

It is believed that the Kentwood Choir will probably go down in the town’s history as the first musical act to appear in the council chamber. Its musical director is reported to have said: ”We will give people a full mix of entertainment from jazz to jingoism. The ending will be a rousing crescendo of Jerusalem, I Vow To Thee My Country and Rule Britannia.” - an excellent choice in our opinion - guaranteed to really upset the Labour Party and liberal-left!

This is an event that deserves support – it is “BNP Approved” – so make sure you fly your flag with pride!

British National Party – Standing Up for Our Communities."

Not at all how the Advertiser has twisted it - is it?




Grant, says...
4:43am Fri 23 Mar 07

According to the Advertiser "Swindon British National Party falsely told supporters on its website the concert on April 23 was "BNP approved".

However it is clear from the BNP article concerned that this phrase "BNP approved" means that they approve of it - not that thay have approved it.

A big and obvious difference - but not to the mindbenders at the foreign-owned Swindon Advertiser apparently!


This is correct, yet again the spin and lies are visible for all to see.

The BNP are simply endorsing the event with the words ‘BNP approved’, what is wrong with this?





Andy Baxter, west yorks says...
5:26am Fri 23 Mar 07

roll on may the 3rd, then all us biggoted nazis can goose step up to the polling station to put our crosses next to the BNP! incidently im 81 years old and fought for this beautiful Land. if i had known then what i know now i wouldnt have bothered!

Mellow Tiger, swindon says...
8:08am Fri 23 Mar 07

just patriotic wrote:
May the 3rd is BNP day
Be a Nazi Pr**ck day? I don't think many of us will be celebrating that.

Bert, Calne says...
8:11am Fri 23 Mar 07

Mellow Tiger wrote:
just patriotic wrote: May the 3rd is BNP day
Be a Nazi Pr**ck day? I don't think many of us will be celebrating that.
Always the offensive tone isn't it? Why not debate in a civil manner instead of making juvenile comments?

Roll on May 3rd by the way!

mellow tiger, swindon says...
8:29am Fri 23 Mar 07

Crude, but accurate.

john winston beatson, sheffield says...
8:37am Fri 23 Mar 07

The B.N.P. are here to stay for they will expose the avaricious lying politicians

They have retrieved our flags (saint George and the Union flag) from the gutter where our politicians have kicked them as they have most of the British traditions

The B.N.P. will restore our health wealth and happiness and bring normality back to our country

Pauline, Newbury says...
8:47am Fri 23 Mar 07

St George's Day is a special day for English people.

It is politically correct nonsense to try to claim it is a celebration of multi-culturalism.

Don't our politicians realise that they are playing into the hands of the BNP by trying to smother thousands of years of English culture by promoting people, religions and cultures that only arrived on our shores in any significant numbers over the past 50 years.

Someone has to stand up for the traditional folk of these islands and at the moment it appears that only the BNP is prepared to do so.

Voice of Sense, The World says...
8:53am Fri 23 Mar 07

seeing as most BNP supporters seem to drive vans for a living, and prop up pub bars as a hobby, I doubt we have much to worry from them.

They are impotent thickoes mostly.

mellow tiger, swindon says...
9:10am Fri 23 Mar 07

Voice of Sense wrote:
seeing as most BNP supporters seem to drive vans for a living, and prop up pub bars as a hobby, I doubt we have much to worry from them. They are impotent thickoes mostly.
Actually, BNP members are nasty, slimy things covered in mucus. They shrivel up and die when you pour salt on them. Oh hang, sorry, that's slugs. I always get the two confused.

ady, yorkshire says...
9:11am Fri 23 Mar 07

It is obvious for all to see, that it is extremist parties such as the Liberal/Labour/Conservative coalition, that are turning our country into a third world one. From that stand point, it could be argued that the BNP is the least extremist; and is standing up for Britishness (and British people)hence the celebration of St George's day. It was not that long ago, that the 'axis of deceipt', would try and stop any celebration of our heritage at any opportunity. How things have changed now the BNP is more powerful!

Thank the lord for the BNP and the best of luck in May.

Clear Off, says...
9:18am Fri 23 Mar 07

Once again you pathetic dribbling idiots have found a rag to tug on, once again you have found a little bit of publicity to further your own deranged nonsense, in the desperate hope that you can either encourage or intimidate people into believing your rubbish. There are many of us that will happily celebrate this day, without the need to ostracise anyone. This great nation of ours is proud, and so we should be – but we are not proud of what you and your hyenas stand for, we are disgusted by it, we are disgusted because we fought a war against your sort of sickening, pointless hatred of anything that isn’t you, and that’s the point, you are only interested in attacking people that are not like you.

I expect the few of you there are will all write some pathetic nonsense on here about being patriotic and loving your country but you don’t, you love yourselves and causing grief to those that oppose you just like the Nazis. Understand this, you will not succeed, you will not triumph you will not goose step down Victoria road because the decent, hard working tax paying respectable members of the public will not allow you too – Crawl under a stone maggots crawl under it and disappear – you are not wanted!

Rose, South West England says...
9:23am Fri 23 Mar 07

The British National Party is the ONLY Party whose members are unselfishly dedicated to saving this once-safe and pleasant land from the awful, growing dangers that we can ALL see unfolding around and before us.
Most decent citizens have now ‘seen the light’ and will be voting BNP in May.
We actually love it when the apparently traitorous, ‘loony lefties’ scribble insults and lies about the BNP, and its membership that consists of good, decent citizens, for they simply make us stronger and even more patriotic to our unique island Country.

Henry, Swindon says...
9:30am Fri 23 Mar 07

Clear Off...never hear of right of reply?

Without the BNP we more than likely would not have a St Georges flag to wave.

The Communist PC brigade who you are patently ONE OF would have surely seen to that if left unchallenged!

Reality Dawns, Littlehampton says...
9:36am Fri 23 Mar 07

More talk of this tollerance nonsence. Tollerance comes natrally or not at all. Forced tollorance is oppression. To me, an English person maligning the BNP is like a Jew cellebrateing the Nazis. Its a shame these uneducated idiots dont just move to a third world country, rather than force it upon the decent hard working tax payers of the UK. I want a future for my children in the uk, thats why Ill be voting BNP in may.

Reality Dawns, Littlehampton says...
9:38am Fri 23 Mar 07

More talk of this tollerance nonsence. Tollerance comes natrally or not at all. Forced tollorance is oppression. To me, an English person maligning the BNP is like a Jew cellebrateing the Nazis. Its a shame these uneducated idiots dont just move to a third world country, rather than force it upon the decent hard working tax payers of the UK. I want a future for my children in the uk, thats why Ill be voting BNP in may.

Anna, Swindon says...
9:49am Fri 23 Mar 07

Well most of the comments against the BNP here seem to rely on sour childish remarks instead of logical argument. The more time I spend reading comments against the BNP the more I sympathise with them. They are a political party representing the indigenous British population, the same lefty types who try to smear them have nothing to say about the Islamic Party of Britain, nor organisations like the Black Police Officers Association. Seems it is only racist to have an organisation if it represents Brits of White - Christian ancestry.

Pete, West Country says...
9:55am Fri 23 Mar 07

Anna wrote:
Well most of the comments against the BNP here seem to rely on sour childish remarks instead of logical argument. The more time I spend reading comments against the BNP the more I sympathise with them. They are a political party representing the indigenous British population, the same lefty types who try to smear them have nothing to say about the Islamic Party of Britain, nor organisations like the Black Police Officers Association. Seems it is only racist to have an organisation if it represents Brits of White - Christian ancestry.
Bingo!

This is a question of Civil Liberties and Human Rights, both of which are denied to organisations representing White Britons. When an organisation is exclusively for Blacks it is “progressive”, when an organisation is for Whites its “racist” - this is total hypocrisy!

I will be voting BNP at every opportunity as they are, as far as I am concerned, the only party that can save Britain.

Voice of Sense, The World says...
10:02am Fri 23 Mar 07

Anna wrote:
Well most of the comments against the BNP here seem to rely on sour childish remarks instead of logical argument. The more time I spend reading comments against the BNP the more I sympathise with them. They are a political party representing the indigenous British population, the same lefty types who try to smear them have nothing to say about the Islamic Party of Britain, nor organisations like the Black Police Officers Association. Seems it is only racist to have an organisation if it represents Brits of White - Christian ancestry.
so is that what the BNP represents then? White British Christians?

I'm white and British. I'm not a Christian. Does that mean they don't represent me?

My friend is british and non-white, but he is a christian. Is he not represented then?

What about my other friend who is british, but neither white or christian? I guess he's completely out in the cold then?

I have another friend who is white and christian, but not british at all. I guess he gets the really sharp end of your boot then?

mellow tiger, swindon says...
10:04am Fri 23 Mar 07

"The whole wide world, and endless Universe

Yet we keep looking through the eyeglass in reverse...

Better the pride that resides as a citizen of the world

Than the pride that divides, when a colourful rag is unfurled."

I'm quoting Neil Peart of Rush here. The Professor says things better than I ever could.

Tobz, here says...
10:07am Fri 23 Mar 07

I'm amused to see that more than half the comments from supporters of the BNP seem to be from places MILES away from Swindon. How did you 'stumble' across this article in a wiltshire paper? Would it be too cynical to beleive that your responses have been coordinated by the local Swindon party? If so, doesn't seem to endorse the level of local support, does it? To use your OWN logic: GO BACK TO YOUR OWN COUNTIES! Leave Swindon to the Swindonians - we don't need your weird Sheffield, Yorkshire or Littlehampton foreign rubbish round here!

Albert hurwood, Corby says...
10:58am Fri 23 Mar 07

Whenever you hear the BNP called Nazis remember it wasn't the BNP which told every sick pensioner in this coauntry that they had a duty to KILL themselves in order "not to be a burden on society" - THAT WAS NEW (NAZI) LABOUR!

It wasn't the BNP which used thugs to manhandle an 84 year old man, a survivor of the Holocaust, out of a party conference because he dared to say a single word - "nonsense" - about Jack Straw's speech - THAT WAS NEW (NAZI)LABOUR'S THUGS!

NEW (NAZI) LABOUR introduced the Civil Contingengies Bill - like Hitler's Enabling Act - it allows any civil servant to totally bypass parliament and introduce whatever laws he wishes!

The Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act allows the government to monitor all UK internet traffic - including emails - without a warrant - just like Nazi Germany where officials could read people's mail, listen in on telephone conversations, or search private homes - without a warrant.

In Nazi Germany viewpoints in any way threatening to Nazi beliefs or to the regime were censored or eliminated from all media - In Britain today it is called "Political Correctness"

No it is NOT the BNP which are the NEW NAZIS - the real Nazis are NEW (NAZI) LABOUR!

Hairy Dog, Kennel says...
11:06am Fri 23 Mar 07

If the BNP get any seats in the Wiltshire area I will eat my hat! And it's a big hat!

Voice of Sense, The World says...
11:06am Fri 23 Mar 07

Albert hurwood wrote:
Whenever you hear the BNP called Nazis remember it wasn't the BNP which told every sick pensioner in this coauntry that they had a duty to KILL themselves in order "not to be a burden on society" - THAT WAS NEW (NAZI) LABOUR!

It wasn't the BNP which used thugs to manhandle an 84 year old man, a survivor of the Holocaust, out of a party conference because he dared to say a single word - "nonsense" - about Jack Straw's speech - THAT WAS NEW (NAZI)LABOUR'S THUGS!

NEW (NAZI) LABOUR introduced the Civil Contingengies Bill - like Hitler's Enabling Act - it allows any civil servant to totally bypass parliament and introduce whatever laws he wishes!

The Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act allows the government to monitor all UK internet traffic - including emails - without a warrant - just like Nazi Germany where officials could read people's mail, listen in on telephone conversations, or search private homes - without a warrant.

In Nazi Germany viewpoints in any way threatening to Nazi beliefs or to the regime were censored or eliminated from all media - In Britain today it is called "Political Correctness"

No it is NOT the BNP which are the NEW NAZIS - the real Nazis are NEW (NAZI) LABOUR!
goodness Albert - steady on there, you might have a coronoary!

who said the country was being run perfectly well?

I didn't realise the choice was just Labour or the BNP.

I wonder what all those other boxes on the ballet paper are for then.

Bert, Calne says...
11:06am Fri 23 Mar 07

Dear Voice of Sense

Are you sure you really have any friends?

Brian, Swindon says...
11:07am Fri 23 Mar 07

Swindon Advertiser editor Mark Waldron said: "St George's Day is a celebration of England and everything associated with it.

"That includes tolerance and multiculturalism, which are definitely not words you associate with an organisation such as the BNP."

Well, the Editor clearly isn't neutral on the subject, so I guess fair and balanced reporting is going to be out of the question.

Bert, Calne says...
11:08am Fri 23 Mar 07

Tobz wrote:
I'm amused to see that more than half the comments from supporters of the BNP seem to be from places MILES away from Swindon. How did you 'stumble' across this article in a wiltshire paper? Would it be too cynical to beleive that your responses have been coordinated by the local Swindon party? If so, doesn't seem to endorse the level of local support, does it? To use your OWN logic: GO BACK TO YOUR OWN COUNTIES! Leave Swindon to the Swindonians - we don't need your weird Sheffield, Yorkshire or Littlehampton foreign rubbish round here!
So what happened to freedom of speech then? How do you know those comments are not made by those who originated in Swindon. Trying to stifle the rights of anyone to speak as they see fit smacks of fascism surely!

Voice of Sense, The World says...
11:09am Fri 23 Mar 07

Bert wrote:
Dear Voice of Sense

Are you sure you really have any friends?
yes Bert I am. Real people with real lives and real problems, not like the made-up problems of the pant-wetting BNP.

Albert hurwood, Corby says...
11:18am Fri 23 Mar 07

Voice of Sense (lol) the choice is NOT between Labour and the BNP - the choice is between slavery and freedom - slavery or the BNP!

Voice of Sense, The World says...
11:22am Fri 23 Mar 07

Albert hurwood wrote:
Voice of Sense (lol) the choice is NOT between Labour and the BNP - the choice is between slavery and freedom - slavery or the BNP!
my Albert - was the wind in your hair when you made that magnaminous speech?

Stirring stuff indeed, and quite possibly the funniest thing I've read so far today. You are wasted here - try the comedy circuit - you could be a character comedian - "Albert the Deranged Facist and his Imaginary World of Terror and Panic"



Albert Hurwood, Corby says...
11:22am Fri 23 Mar 07

No I don't come from Swindon - I come from Corby - perhaps you remember Corby?

It was a place slammed by New Labour for being "too white and too British"!

And because of that 70 jobs are being moved to Leicestershire where they are certainly NOT too white!

LET's hope that Swindon is awash with ethnic majorities or your job prospects are zilch!

Voice of Sense, The World says...
11:27am Fri 23 Mar 07

Albert Hurwood wrote:
No I don't come from Swindon - I come from Corby - perhaps you remember Corby?

It was a place slammed by New Labour for being "too white and too British"!

And because of that 70 jobs are being moved to Leicestershire where they are certainly NOT too white!

LET's hope that Swindon is awash with ethnic majorities or your job prospects are zilch!
is this the nub of your ire Albert? The fact that you can't compete in today's world?

Must be somebody elses fault eh?

Albert Hurwood, Corby says...
11:30am Fri 23 Mar 07

To Voice of sense - I no longer have to compete on anything-I am retired!

So what are you?

Retired or on benefits?

Anyway this is my last post for the moment - more important things to do than argue with the totally irrational - like watching paint dry!

mellow tiger, swindon says...
11:34am Fri 23 Mar 07

Albert hurwood wrote:
Voice of Sense (lol) the choice is NOT between Labour and the BNP - the choice is between slavery and freedom - slavery or the BNP!
Is that Albert Hurwood, or Albert Speer? Do you really feel enslaved? Chained to bed each night? Forced to work in a sweatshop 18 hours a day for a pittance (or nothing)? Fed basic rations and whipped for minor indescretions? By all means, vote BNP, but don't come running to me when you find out what slavery really means.

And thanks to your home town for the trouser press.

Paper Tiger, Swindon says...
11:35am Fri 23 Mar 07

Gavin, why dont YOU move to another country, that's if you are from here in the first place?. I believe Uterecht in Holland is experiencing plenty of enrichement problems at present, full scale rioting etc, so perhaps you would feel at home there?
Mellow Tiger?, more like Stoned Lamb just about sums up the rude response to a man who fought for this country so that the uneducated like yourself have the right to voice a point of view, however ineloquently put.
Why do we bother buying newspapers which deliberately set out to lie and deceive the reader?, the truth is out there, and no its not the X Files, its actually on the BNP website! Seek and learn, unless you arent able too, or possibly have a vested interest not to?

Voice of Sense, The World says...
11:39am Fri 23 Mar 07

Albert Hurwood wrote:
To Voice of sense - I no longer have to compete on anything-I am retired!

So what are you?

Retired or on benefits?

Anyway this is my last post for the moment - more important things to do than argue with the totally irrational - like watching paint dry!
what a peculiar black & white world you live in Albert.

I work for a living thank you very much, and I don't claim any benefits at all - is that allowed? - it wasn't one of your 2 options

vespagirl, Wiltshire says...
11:39am Fri 23 Mar 07

Andy Baxter wrote:
roll on may the 3rd, then all us biggoted nazis can goose step up to the polling station to put our crosses next to the BNP! incidently im 81 years old and fought for this beautiful Land. if i had known then what i know now i wouldnt have bothered!
Well spoken! Roll on May 3rd...will be voting next to you!

Plastic Panther, Swindon says...
11:40am Fri 23 Mar 07

I take it by calling yourself "mellow", that you see yourself as "cool", perhaps "cosmopopitan"or maybe a partaker in herbal substances?.. before you know it youll be signed up by those upholders of everything thats Unwashed And Fragrant lol. Plonka

Mrs. S. Keats, Leicestershire says...
11:56am Fri 23 Mar 07

I think Swindon Council may find that their complaint against another political entity has backfired. This event has not been organised by a local (non-political)heritage group, but by the Council themselves, in which case it is perfectly proper for the BNP to approve it. Can anybody tell me if this has been an annual event? Or is this a first, occasioned by the BNP's encouragement for all of us to celebrate this very English tradition? I applaud the fact that this event is being held and think the choice of music is wonderful; but could I remind everyone that there is more to your traditions and ancient customs in Wiltshire than music? I hope you will research and celebrate those too. And that goes for everyone outside Wiltshire, please don't let your local customs die!

mellow tiger, swindon says...
12:02pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Plastic Panther wrote:
I take it by calling yourself "mellow", that you see yourself as "cool", perhaps "cosmopopitan"or maybe a partaker in herbal substances?.. before you know it youll be signed up by those upholders of everything thats Unwashed And Fragrant lol. Plonka
Just remember, "when you make an assumption, you make an **** out of "u" and "umption". I chose the nickname because I'm a Stephen King fan, and it seemed appropriate. I've never touched drugs and I had a shower last night. I'm in my late forties, short, fat and bald, therefore a country-mile from 'cool'. But I do not hate people simply because of the skin colour, religion (I'm an Atheist by the way) or cultural background. I love this country, and would hate to see it run by racists. If you don't see my point, try watching 'V for Vendetta' or 'Children of Men' on DVD.

Lambrettaboy, says...
12:03pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Good on ya Vespa girl, mine's a Serie Speciale, (though better watch out those crazed lunatic ranks of the criminal left will take offence at the bike being an SS 200! better ban the name, its a "Nazi" bike you know lol). Its our duty to uphold the supreme effort of those who gave their youth and possibly their lives to keep this country free, and listening to some of those who would take away freedom of expression and our right to defend our country makes my blood boil.

ady, yorkshire says...
12:07pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Mrs. S. Keats wrote:
I think Swindon Council may find that their complaint against another political entity has backfired. This event has not been organised by a local (non-political)heritage group, but by the Council themselves, in which case it is perfectly proper for the BNP to approve it. Can anybody tell me if this has been an annual event? Or is this a first, occasioned by the BNP\'s encouragement for all of us to celebrate this very English tradition? I applaud the fact that this event is being held and think the choice of music is wonderful; but could I remind everyone that there is more to your traditions and ancient customs in Wiltshire than music? I hope you will research and celebrate those too. And that goes for everyone outside Wiltshire, please don\'t let your local customs die!
Nothing more 'sinister' than Google alerts and I have nothing to do with the Swindon BNP. Iam however, from Yorkshire, and Iam English. Iam not seeking 'asylum' from 6 time zones away.

It does appear though that the intellectual arguaments from BNP supporters are beating the rhetoric from those that are left leaning. Hasn't it always been the case! That is probably why Nick Griffin is not allowed onto programmes such as Question Time.

ady, yorkshire says...
12:10pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Sorry Mrs Keats. My last comment was directed at a post made by 'Tobz'.

Wooden Wolf, says...
12:12pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Mellow Tiger..I dont believe that most of those who are BNP supporters hate other races, probably more a case of loving their own. Is there anything wrong with that? You say your are an atheist?, well thats ok, but then its all to easy becoming apathetic when one no longer has ideals or beliefs. This is what has happened to our country, people have been encouraged to become uninterested in the political process, to shrug their shoulder and say who cares?, or whats the point? etc. Well there is, and I think you will find that the countries where the people have kept their politicians in check, are the ones that arent disintegrating like this one is. This is whats happening, its fact not a myth.

Ray, Swindon says...
12:17pm Fri 23 Mar 07

I have to agree with the BNP people who have left messages, for some reason the Swindon Advertsier are distorting the truth.

BNP Wiltshire, Corsham says...
12:18pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Dear All, to answer a few of the comments. Firstly Wiltshire BNP welcomes and applauds the event as a celebration of Britishness and Englishness, and many supporters will be attending for that fact. I would thank the BNP supporters on this site for their intellegent arguments, which are well thought out and articulate. I would also thank the left wing Unite against Freedom bigots who prove our argument. Lovely to see you. Membership of the BNP is open to anyone who shares our views and is of kindred european heratage. You can be any religion, which raises the dilemma of polish immegrants etc. A stance which the party is debating at the moment. Other ethnic groups can join the Ethnic Liason Committee, and are welcome to do so should they share our views. But as we are a party standing up for the rights of the indigenous white population then it would be silly to think that ethnic minorities can join, after all I cant join the black lawyers association or the asian equality forum etc. The Christian Council of Britain is a sister organisation fighting politically for the rights of Christians in much the same way as the Muslim council fights for the rights of muslims. Hope that clears that up. The difference is that under the Blair regime if you are normal and love your country then you are obviously racist.

Old Swindonian, says...
12:22pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Just who does "Tobz" think he is?. By the way, has anyone noticed the Left's counter arguments always have some vulgarity/profanity/threat involved?, and why oh why are they all called names like Tobz, Waz, Wez, Jez etc etc. They appear to want to give the impression that they are chilled laid back kinds of people, who are full of love and tolerance for their fellow man, than go on to demand that freedom of speech is only ok if its their voice being heard lol! Ludicrous.

mellow tiger, swindon says...
12:40pm Fri 23 Mar 07

"First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for the communists
and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for me - and by then there was no one left to speak out for me."

Pastor Martin Niemöller.

If you truly believe that the BNP is not a party of racists (read what they've posted here), you are, at best, deluding yourself.


Freedom of speech, Swindon says...
12:52pm Fri 23 Mar 07

I cant believe how many comments are on here. I dont agree with the BNP but then i dont understand why we are not allowed to celebrate ST Georges day in case it offends anyone. No Flags, no public holiday... How could it offend anyone? Most people in this country hold a british passport? Just because they have a different religion doesnt mean they cant celebrate St Georges day, A British day! Or do they expect to hold a british passport and then take away our british rights? I think if thats the case, British passports should no longer be issued to non british citizens and we can have a St Georges day in peace without offending anyone. Too many immigrants dictating to us how we should live our British life.

Voice of Sense, The World says...
12:52pm Fri 23 Mar 07

I've not seen any intelligent argument from the BNP here?

I've not seen anyine say they don't love their country?

All I see are people who are scared of the world, and those that are laughing at them for it.

Steve Blyth, Swindon says...
12:54pm Fri 23 Mar 07

As a result of reading your article, I've looked at the BNP website, and it appears to me that you're lying about the BNP's article. I wonder if they can afford to sue you.

JOHN, West Yorkshire says...
1:04pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Voice of Sense wrote:
Anna wrote: Well most of the comments against the BNP here seem to rely on sour childish remarks instead of logical argument. The more time I spend reading comments against the BNP the more I sympathise with them. They are a political party representing the indigenous British population, the same lefty types who try to smear them have nothing to say about the Islamic Party of Britain, nor organisations like the Black Police Officers Association. Seems it is only racist to have an organisation if it represents Brits of White - Christian ancestry.
so is that what the BNP represents then? White British Christians? I\\\'m white and British. I\\\'m not a Christian. Does that mean they don\\\'t represent me? My friend is british and non-white, but he is a christian. Is he not represented then? What about my other friend who is british, but neither white or christian? I guess he\\\'s completely out in the cold then? I have another friend who is white and christian, but not british at all. I guess he gets the really sharp end of your boot then?
Voice of Sense?? - anyone can use personal points to pick up on - I have numerous black freinds - in particular, why can't one of them take me to his black orginisation? Voice of Sense ( no sense ) would get the toe of my boot, for being a thicko pratt REGARDLESS OF HIS COLOUR OR RELIGION. Face up to it VOS - It don't matter what race, colour or religion you are - if you are an A**ehole - you are an A**ehole!!!

JOHN, West Yorkshire says...
1:07pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Hairy Dog wrote:
If the BNP get any seats in the Wiltshire area I will eat my hat! And it's a big hat!
Give me your address - i'll send you a knife and fork!!

Voice of Sense, The World says...
1:08pm Fri 23 Mar 07

JOHN wrote:
Voice of Sense wrote:
Anna wrote: Well most of the comments against the BNP here seem to rely on sour childish remarks instead of logical argument. The more time I spend reading comments against the BNP the more I sympathise with them. They are a political party representing the indigenous British population, the same lefty types who try to smear them have nothing to say about the Islamic Party of Britain, nor organisations like the Black Police Officers Association. Seems it is only racist to have an organisation if it represents Brits of White - Christian ancestry.
so is that what the BNP represents then? White British Christians? I\\\'m white and British. I\\\'m not a Christian. Does that mean they don\\\'t represent me? My friend is british and non-white, but he is a christian. Is he not represented then? What about my other friend who is british, but neither white or christian? I guess he\\\'s completely out in the cold then? I have another friend who is white and christian, but not british at all. I guess he gets the really sharp end of your boot then?
Voice of Sense?? - anyone can use personal points to pick up on - I have numerous black freinds - in particular, why can't one of them take me to his black orginisation? Voice of Sense ( no sense ) would get the toe of my boot, for being a thicko pratt REGARDLESS OF HIS COLOUR OR RELIGION. Face up to it VOS - It don't matter what race, colour or religion you are - if you are an A**ehole - you are an A**ehole!!!
Dear me John, what strong words. Are you making violent threats against me?

A thicko prat - my, my, my - we are quick to judge aren't we. Am I a target of the BNP now then John, for simply not being like you?

Voice of Sense, The World says...
1:15pm Fri 23 Mar 07

JOHN wrote:
Hairy Dog wrote:
If the BNP get any seats in the Wiltshire area I will eat my hat! And it's a big hat!
Give me your address - i'll send you a knife and fork!!
Hairy Dog will likely need that knife and fork as its quite likely that the BNP will get a seat in Wiltshire. There are silly scared sheep here like there are in Yorkshire and beyond.


JOHN, says...
1:26pm Fri 23 Mar 07

mellow tiger wrote:
\"First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the communists and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist. Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for me - and by then there was no one left to speak out for me.\" Pastor Martin Niemöller. If you truly believe that the BNP is not a party of racists (read what they\'ve posted here), you are, at best, deluding yourself.
At least one jew is a BNP councillor. The communists are in charge of the Government - Brown Bliar etc etc. The trade unions have recently recruited in Poland and further afield. So there hasn't been anyone to speak out for you for quite a while - except the BNP.

mellow tiger, swindon says...
1:39pm Fri 23 Mar 07

JOHN wrote:
mellow tiger wrote: \"First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the communists and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist. Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for me - and by then there was no one left to speak out for me.\" Pastor Martin Niemöller. If you truly believe that the BNP is not a party of racists (read what they\'ve posted here), you are, at best, deluding yourself.
At least one jew is a BNP councillor. The communists are in charge of the Government - Brown Bliar etc etc. The trade unions have recently recruited in Poland and further afield. So there hasn't been anyone to speak out for you for quite a while - except the BNP.
I don't think Tony 'Son of Maggie' Blair will take too kindly to being called a communist. Maybe they will come for you after all.

JOHN, West Yorkshire says...
1:42pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Voice of Sense wrote:
JOHN wrote:
Voice of Sense wrote:
Anna wrote: Well most of the comments against the BNP here seem to rely on sour childish remarks instead of logical argument. The more time I spend reading comments against the BNP the more I sympathise with them. They are a political party representing the indigenous British population, the same lefty types who try to smear them have nothing to say about the Islamic Party of Britain, nor organisations like the Black Police Officers Association. Seems it is only racist to have an organisation if it represents Brits of White - Christian ancestry.
so is that what the BNP represents then? White British Christians? I\\\\\\\'m white and British. I\\\\\\\'m not a Christian. Does that mean they don\\\\\\\'t represent me? My friend is british and non-white, but he is a christian. Is he not represented then? What about my other friend who is british, but neither white or christian? I guess he\\\\\\\'s completely out in the cold then? I have another friend who is white and christian, but not british at all. I guess he gets the really sharp end of your boot then?
Voice of Sense?? - anyone can use personal points to pick up on - I have numerous black freinds - in particular, why can\'t one of them take me to his black orginisation? Voice of Sense ( no sense ) would get the toe of my boot, for being a thicko pratt REGARDLESS OF HIS COLOUR OR RELIGION. Face up to it VOS - It don\'t matter what race, colour or religion you are - if you are an A**ehole - you are an A**ehole!!!
Dear me John, what strong words. Are you making violent threats against me? A thicko prat - my, my, my - we are quick to judge aren\'t we. Am I a target of the BNP now then John, for simply not being like you?
Excuse the delay - VOS, i don't drive a van, i don't drink alcohol - the other boxes on the ballot are for the big firm who changes the front man once every few years. I work for a living, i don't get benefits even when i once qualified. You started the name-calling earlier, so i had to drop to your level so you would understand, which is why i'm not using joined up writing for you. If you want a debate which i thought this was supposed to be about - why not attend a local meeting and try making an informeddecision? I don't make violent threats. What use are they? I'm bored with you now so i'm off to join albert and have more fun watching the paint dry! May you have interesting times in the future.

Voice of Sense, The World says...
1:44pm Fri 23 Mar 07

bye John - missing you already

Where Eagles Dare, Aberdeen says...
2:21pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Andy Baxter wrote:
roll on may the 3rd, then all us biggoted nazis can goose step up to the polling station to put our crosses next to the BNP! incidently im 81 years old and fought for this beautiful Land. if i had known then what i know now i wouldnt have bothered!
I served for 11 years in Army was in first Gulw war and 2 years in Ireland ( Palace Barracks) I will be voting BNP because the only facists are Lab/Lib/CON My Dad and Uncles were in WW2 serving scottish regiments my uncle was taken prisoner of war at Dunkirk fighting to keep the Germans back while the rest of the Army could escape the beach my Grandad who served in WW1 got his leg blown to bits with hand grenade.
I will vote BNP because they are the only ones that reconise the threat we are under from Islam and foreign migration. The BNP are trying to keep what you and all your friends sacrificed so much for.
Churchill would have reconised what was happening to our country like he did the Iron curtain.
Scottish British and Proud

J. Robinson, Surrey says...
2:26pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Labour's secret army of bully boys of the UAF/ANL and searchlight are usually the same white middle class moronic failures from the shires who lead empty useless lives, with mummy and daddy subsidising their foray's into the areas of the BNP to undermine democratically held elections,their whole existence is based on excitedly planning their next "attack"

The people of this country are finally waking up to that fact, and that they have been duped for far too long by a small minority who have shouted and screamed the loudest and played the race card whenever there is common sense opposition to "enrichment" and "diversity" of the failed mass immigration experiment that has been a total disaster.
If the generations to come are to have any future in this country it is vital the out of control politically correct madness be stopped, only one party now stands in the way the BNP.




mellow tiger, swindon says...
2:35pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Where Eagles Dare wrote:
Andy Baxter wrote: roll on may the 3rd, then all us biggoted nazis can goose step up to the polling station to put our crosses next to the BNP! incidently im 81 years old and fought for this beautiful Land. if i had known then what i know now i wouldnt have bothered!
I served for 11 years in Army was in first Gulw war and 2 years in Ireland ( Palace Barracks) I will be voting BNP because the only facists are Lab/Lib/CON My Dad and Uncles were in WW2 serving scottish regiments my uncle was taken prisoner of war at Dunkirk fighting to keep the Germans back while the rest of the Army could escape the beach my Grandad who served in WW1 got his leg blown to bits with hand grenade. I will vote BNP because they are the only ones that reconise the threat we are under from Islam and foreign migration. The BNP are trying to keep what you and all your friends sacrificed so much for. Churchill would have reconised what was happening to our country like he did the Iron curtain. Scottish British and Proud
So you fought the nazis so that you could end up voting for the nazis? Tell me I'm not the only one who can see then irony here?

Voice of Sense, The World says...
2:36pm Fri 23 Mar 07

I too am rather confused by Where Eagles Dare's message.

where eagles dare, Scotland says...
2:41pm Fri 23 Mar 07

mellow tiger wrote:
Where Eagles Dare wrote:
Andy Baxter wrote: roll on may the 3rd, then all us biggoted nazis can goose step up to the polling station to put our crosses next to the BNP! incidently im 81 years old and fought for this beautiful Land. if i had known then what i know now i wouldnt have bothered!
I served for 11 years in Army was in first Gulw war and 2 years in Ireland ( Palace Barracks) I will be voting BNP because the only facists are Lab/Lib/CON My Dad and Uncles were in WW2 serving scottish regiments my uncle was taken prisoner of war at Dunkirk fighting to keep the Germans back while the rest of the Army could escape the beach my Grandad who served in WW1 got his leg blown to bits with hand grenade. I will vote BNP because they are the only ones that reconise the threat we are under from Islam and foreign migration. The BNP are trying to keep what you and all your friends sacrificed so much for. Churchill would have reconised what was happening to our country like he did the Iron curtain. Scottish British and Proud
So you fought the nazis so that you could end up voting for the nazis? Tell me I\\\'m not the only one who can see then irony here?
You are just a total P R I C K

simple straight forward to the point and truthfull just like the BNP

mellow tiger, swindon says...
2:41pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Voice of Sense wrote:
I too am rather confused by Where Eagles Dare's message.
Actually I've re-read what he said, and I recognise I've misrepresented his story a bit. My question stands, however.

mellow tiger, swindon says...
3:04pm Fri 23 Mar 07

where eagles dare wrote:
mellow tiger wrote:
Where Eagles Dare wrote:
Andy Baxter wrote: roll on may the 3rd, then all us biggoted nazis can goose step up to the polling station to put our crosses next to the BNP! incidently im 81 years old and fought for this beautiful Land. if i had known then what i know now i wouldnt have bothered!
I served for 11 years in Army was in first Gulw war and 2 years in Ireland ( Palace Barracks) I will be voting BNP because the only facists are Lab/Lib/CON My Dad and Uncles were in WW2 serving scottish regiments my uncle was taken prisoner of war at Dunkirk fighting to keep the Germans back while the rest of the Army could escape the beach my Grandad who served in WW1 got his leg blown to bits with hand grenade. I will vote BNP because they are the only ones that reconise the threat we are under from Islam and foreign migration. The BNP are trying to keep what you and all your friends sacrificed so much for. Churchill would have reconised what was happening to our country like he did the Iron curtain. Scottish British and Proud
So you fought the nazis so that you could end up voting for the nazis? Tell me I\\\'m not the only one who can see then irony here?
You are just a total P R I C K simple straight forward to the point and truthfull just like the BNP
From your considered response, I take it the point was too vexing for you.

I may be what you say, but at least I won't voting for the BNP. So I'm happy I'm not you.

Joe, Swindon says...
3:20pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Get out your flags of St George for May 3rd is the day the BNP will liberate our beseiged town of Swindon!

PETER MULLINS, Liskeard, Cornwall says...
3:32pm Fri 23 Mar 07

What a lively interchange of political opinion and discussion! The ratio of pro-British National Party and anti is about 4:1 in favour of the B.N.P. which is much closer in this instance than in similar newspapers and other, major Nationals of late when"discussions" related to the policies of the Party are aired. The usual ratio is about 8:1 in the B.N.P.'s favour. To Voice of Sense I say that I COULD possibly drive a van if so required but I DID actually fly a "V" bomber for some years during the Cold War in the hope that by so doing I would help keep the Big Bear of Communism from kicking down our ,that is, the British people's, front door. Seemed to work. After my time in the services I ran a multi-billion Company in the Middle East; you know, propping up the bars in Saudi Arabia, The Gulf and Iran. I am now the Regional Organiser for the British National Party in the West of England (which includes Swindon.) I say to Hairy Dog, who has promised to eat his (large) hat if the B.N.P.make any progress in Wiltshire, ask the Trotskies and their "Searchlight" pals who said the same thing a couple of years ago in Dagenham and Barking for the recipe of the sauce that they used when forced to eat their hats!
Finally, to the pathetic "Clear Off." When you say in your frothing diatribe, "we fought a war against your sort" where and when did YOU and your A.N.L.chums join in any real fight for this Country of our? Number, Rank, Name and Service , i.e., R.A.F., Navy, Army or Royal Marines. Which one was it, "Clear Off?" What a bloody Shower!!!

mellow tiger, swindon says...
3:32pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Joe wrote:
Get out your flags of St George for May 3rd is the day the BNP will liberate our beseiged town of Swindon!
Beseiged? I've got to go to the airport this weekend to pick my Mum up. I'll just have to put my foot down when I get to checkpoints and hope for the best.

Voice of Sense, The World says...
4:01pm Fri 23 Mar 07

So Mr Mullins

it doesn't take long for your little ants to come crying back to base and get the big boys out does it. Not enough local support is there?

You clearly are an intelligent man - so why the extremist stance. Did the experience with your friend Kevin make you hate all foreigners?

Or are you so worried that Altarnun is going to end up great big bad city with dark skinned people living it it?

Sounds like an idylic place, but then it can't be if the locals are like you.

Or maybe its the backlash from the foreign wine you sell as British BNP wine that has you so upset?

It seems your mind is still stuck in the age of that museum you look after.


PETER MULLINS, Liskeard, Cornwall says...
4:06pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Hang on, now, "Mellow Tiger." Your fellow "Trot," name of "Tobz," has raged in this column that correspondents from outside the city limits of Swindon have no rights to have their comments aired. Be fair. If we, that is, the rest of the World, are denied access to the Advertiser, why should WE allow you into OUR territory to access our airports? Seems your mum may be in for a long wait if the Border Guards are doing their job correctly.

Robert Baggs, Calne says...
4:32pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Voice of Sense wrote:
So Mr Mullins it doesn't take long for your little ants to come crying back to base and get the big boys out does it. Not enough local support is there? You clearly are an intelligent man - so why the extremist stance. Did the experience with your friend Kevin make you hate all foreigners? Or are you so worried that Altarnun is going to end up great big bad city with dark skinned people living it it? Sounds like an idylic place, but then it can't be if the locals are like you. Or maybe its the backlash from the foreign wine you sell as British BNP wine that has you so upset? It seems your mind is still stuck in the age of that museum you look after.
Isn't it strange how you and all of your anti-BNP allies seem to consider that political debate consists of name calling and anonymous attempts at intimidation. Look at the policies on our web-site and debate those or can't you? I am sure the BNP posters will be more than happy to debate with other posters who identify themselves and don't hide behind silly names. Looking forward to some silly comments in response. Roll on May 3rd - great support so far!

Voice of Sense, The World says...
4:43pm Fri 23 Mar 07

the anonimity is, as you clearly know, for self protection.

The BNP (whether they state it nor not on their lovely website) have been involved (with their lovely friends in the National Front, N9S and Combat 18) in extreme violence toward ethnic minorities and what they see as sympathisers.

my vote will be private, my debating is private.

The name calling as you put it is merely jibes at the surface silliness of those BNP supportes who flock like sheep to prevent the 'besieging' of the 'white, christain' towns and cities.

I only with the BNP was truly as silly as they seem, but my real fear is that the BNP will take hold and send this country into a spiral of infighting and public violence.

A vote for the BNP is a vote for anarchy.

PETER MULLINS, Liskeard, Cornwall says...
4:53pm Fri 23 Mar 07

For "Voice of Sense."
The mask is slipping as you reveal your true agenda and background but,of course, YOU would never have the guts to use your REAL name and location. I could call myself, if I were not completely comfortable with MY identity, Top Dog or Skyshaker or something equally poncey but, I prefer people to know EXACTLY where I stand and what my Party is all about. Do you know what, "Voice," it works! People prefer to know who is who and where they are coming from. Just like the British National Party; what you see is what you get. If you don't agree with us, why not stand for Council?

Robert Baggs, Calne says...
4:57pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Voice of Sense wrote:
the anonimity is, as you clearly know, for self protection. The BNP (whether they state it nor not on their lovely website) have been involved (with their lovely friends in the National Front, N9S and Combat 18) in extreme violence toward ethnic minorities and what they see as sympathisers. my vote will be private, my debating is private. The name calling as you put it is merely jibes at the surface silliness of those BNP supportes who flock like sheep to prevent the 'besieging' of the 'white, christain' towns and cities. I only with the BNP was truly as silly as they seem, but my real fear is that the BNP will take hold and send this country into a spiral of infighting and public violence. A vote for the BNP is a vote for anarchy.
Violence is not what we are about and we do not condone any such activity. I would be interested to know if you feel as strongly about the Labour party's links with communism and the atrocities committed in Russia by Stalin and his buddies etc.

Voice of Sense, The World says...
5:00pm Fri 23 Mar 07

ah - the military man turned traitor is back

Good luck in May Peter.
Good luck to all of us - we will need.

Alginon, Swindon says...
5:00pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Peter Mullins is still a dapper chap.Have seen him trip the light fantastic with beautiful Simone our BNP ballet Dancer.

We have a better class of people in the BNP.So just remember MAY 3rd is BNP day!

kenny, swindon says...
5:03pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Voice of sense talks alot of crap scare tactics about the bnp

bnp has my vote.

voice of sense is most likely lib dems or labour or some leftist limp wristed group

Robert Baggs, Calne says...
5:03pm Fri 23 Mar 07

By the way Voice of Sense, you didn't respond to my challenge to debate the policies from our web-site. Funny that!

Marti B, Swindon if thats ok with Tobzzzzzzzz says...
5:04pm Fri 23 Mar 07

I must say that as a casual observer I am totally shocked by some of the comments made by what I take to be the Liberals or Left wing (is that what Communists are called now?). In fact, has anyone else noted the ironic role reversal in what constitutes a name, as to me the BNP seem to be representing the common working man and freedom of speech, and are closer to true Socialists than some of the quite sinister "ban this ban that" Left wing (?) representatives, who are obviously quite hardline in their approach, and could quite easily be mistaken for the Fascists. Thinking about it, they go hand in hand with all the reppressive and oppressive legislators in power now, from the Fascistic environmentalists to the party that bans smoking for the good of the citizen, but at the same time puts said citizen in the direct line of fire in illegal wars. Also anti BNP types, why do you insist on making stupid remarks and playing silly games with the scrolling and presentation of your comments Do you want marks out of ten?

Robert Baggs, Calne says...
5:05pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Oh sorry, yes you did - you said "...my debating is private". So that may be, but your anonymous insults are public. Mmmm 'nuf said

voice of nonsense, says...
5:18pm Fri 23 Mar 07

V.o.C.. Sorry to tell you this pal, but you have anarchy already mate, its just that its not being readily reported. If you dont consider a wave of gun crime in London, out of control muggings stabbings and rape, which per head of population have a higher than usual incidence of immigrant involvement as anarchy well perhaps this is normality and the right way for you, and the order and decency that the BNP would restore would obviously be negative to you. So that makes you a negative entity doesnt it?

Voice of Sense, The World says...
5:19pm Fri 23 Mar 07

I must be lib dem or labour? why is that all that makes sense to you? I'm not with you therefore I must be of a certain type? Typical BNP attitude.

Limp wristed? hahaha. no.

If you want some real answers then so be it...

Politics - no affiliation.

Attitude to Extreme religeous fanatics: they are all mental and the world would be better without them.

Anyone who advocates the killing of innocents of any nationality/colour - kick them out (and that includes Blair)

Illegal immigrants - kick them out.

Legal immigrants - very welcome

Refugees - very welcome.

Legal immigrants or refugees that abuse the system or commit crime - kick them out.

British people (of any origin) who contribute to this country, are very welcome.

Racists and bigots - no thanks.

Blair is a criminal, Cameron is a dick, and lets not even discuss the Lib dems.

but the BNP? Lets burn the house down to get rid of a mouse shall we.

truthspeaker, uk says...
5:30pm Fri 23 Mar 07

People have worked out what Cultural Marxism is and are now looking for an alternative.

PETER MULLINS, Liskeard, Cornwall says...
5:35pm Fri 23 Mar 07

On the off chance that there may be just ONE person out there who thinks that the National Front, N9S or Combat18 have ANY connection with the B.N.P.this is NOT so. Anyone saying otherwise is a liar!!!
"Voice of Sense" is afraid that the B.N.P.will create a spiral of infighting and public violence! What the **** have we got NOW?? How many more young people have got to be shot and stabbed before the "Rouble" drops? Anarchy rules already in many British cities such as Birmingham, Manchester and particularly in South London. How the B.N.P. could possibly make this worse than it is escapes me! What a pathetic excuse for not revealing who he is. The poor lamb is scared! He should try living in Mosside or Loscelles or Brixton or Beeston in Leeds then he would have reason to be scared!

Voice of Sense, The World says...
5:41pm Fri 23 Mar 07

you've been in the military and you think the UK is in anarchy? poor you, you must be scared witless. I calleds you intelligent earlier. I take that back now.

the goings on in the places you describe are indeed terrible and need to be dealt with hard, but I think you'll find that a large majority of the criminals involved are British.


Cool Cat, multicult cesspit says...
5:59pm Fri 23 Mar 07

So Mellow Tiger thinks that Ton and his mate Gordon aren't commies. Dream on. They'd much rather be celebrating May Day and waving their red flags !

voice of nonsense, says...
6:00pm Fri 23 Mar 07

V.o.S Why are you so keen to denigrate the British as the criminals?, what would make someone hate their own so much..some kind of trauma?. Even if your'e not British, you are here and that should be enough for you to offer your host country some respect. But I suspect you are one of those mixed up Brits who has been brought up on a diet of self loathing and guilt, as fed to most of our kids thanks to a national curriculum which allows unseen enemies within government and education policymaking to have access to impressionable minds. I'm afraid that the anarchy that you are presently unable to see is happenning all through Europe, and indeed the world, in fact anywhere that unchecked immigration is allowed, presently its Holland, but next month it could be Paris, or closer to home. I suspect that you write from the comforts of safe (for now) suburbia, and have very little idea of the real world. Naivety crossed with ignorance, a dangerous combination.

Voice of Sense, The World says...
6:08pm Fri 23 Mar 07

gee sorry Mr Nonsense Sir, will do Mr Nonsense Sir.

Don't hurt me Mr Nonsense Sir - I'm just messing my homeland is all Mr Nonsense Sir.

There are criminals everywhere Mr Nonsense, british, non-british, white, black, brown, male and female. No race, colour or nationality is inherantly criminal.


Voice of Sense, The World says...
6:12pm Fri 23 Mar 07

anyway - It's Friday evening and I have better things to do than discuss the state of the nation with the likes of you lot

tara

BNP Wiltshire, Corsham says...
6:12pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Please note that C18, NF and all the others have no political connection to the BNP. The BNP being a seperate political entity, and lawfully recognised as such. However I would just like to point out that Gerry Gable head of searchlight has a conviction for burglary, Dennis Nielson the cannibal was a member of Unite against Freedom at the time of his arrest.There are many more. However, it is strange that the LibLabCon and its allies in UAF/ANAL dont condemn the stalanist death camps or the murder of Kris Donald, and the rape of little girls in Keighley.I think that debate and democracy are alien to the left wing, for we never hear of the crimes against our own people.

BNP Wiltshire, Corsham says...
6:14pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Please note that C18, NF and all the others have no political connection to the BNP. The BNP being a seperate political entity, and lawfully recognised as such. However I would just like to point out that Gerry Gable head of searchlight has a conviction for burglary, Dennis Nielson the cannibal was a member of Unite against Freedom at the time of his arrest.There are many more. However, it is strange that the LibLabCon and its allies in UAF/ANAL dont condemn the stalanist death camps or the murder of Kris Donald, and the rape of little girls in Keighley.I think that debate and democracy are alien to the left wing, for we never hear of the crimes against our own people.

John, Swindon says...
6:25pm Fri 23 Mar 07

To all the anti bnp people on this site ,what are you going to do when you cant have a say in your own country because all the imagrants here take over and silence you.Do you think islam will put up with all your gay rights and love all religions nonsence ,no i dont think so ,there would be no popping down the road for a pint either or anything else you might like to do thats british. Who do you think you are to tell us we should put up with all the ethnics , you are a minority telling the majority what we want ,well its over ,the british people have had enough ,enough of being scared to walk down our own streets and be abused by asians ,the women having to put up with their disgusting comments , WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH , WELL DONE THE BNP , WE THE BRITISH PEOPLE NEED YOU , YOU WILL BE GETTING MY VOTE . By the way , i have been on the bnp site and read your letters page ,how nice to see people saying it as it is with no bull.

PETER MULLINS, Liskeard, Cornwall says...
6:28pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Let me assure you, "Voice," that at my time of life and with regard to my experience, very little if anything scares me. What angers, frustrates and gives me cause for despair are the sentiments expressed by people like you who will not or cannot see what is happening to this great country of ours. Anarchy and terror are relative. If you and your family have, for generations, lived in peace and tranquility and are now subject to the horrors of inner city violence, crime and lawlessness it might be perceived by those poor unfortunates to be indeed anarchy. Try it for yourself before pontificating about my definition of the state of our cities.
You say that the large majority of criminals may be British. Very true, you probably are correct but, as just about anyone who enters our country can become British this is of no real surprise to me. The Home Office has shamefacedly admitted to 10,000 dodgey passports in the last 12 months. These passports were not for Baptist Ministers and Nuns, were they? All of the 7/7 bombers were "British" as are the accused in the 27/7 case So where is your point? The term, "British" when used by the media when describing an arrest of a person either here or abroad on terrorist charges seems to be a shorthand for a person of foreign ethnicity who happens to have a British passport. If you want to become "British" I understand the going rate in London for a pretty good copy of a passport is about £125, obviously of no interest to you but some of your little friends may be interested!

the awakening, says...
6:32pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Of interest to anyone concerned at the perversiveness and debasing of our country by those in the media and other anti British agencies would be advised to visit a new organisation fighting to stem the tide of pervasive homosexuality. Visit www.TheCCTV.org They are doing what the cowardly Church leaders should have been doing years ago-protecting our nations culture and our childrens future. Good luck to them!.

Alginon, Swindon says...
6:41pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Bravo Peter. Voice is a little simple in his grasp of reality compared to your reasoned view.

Admit it Voice you are beaten by the higher intelect.

d miles, chisledon says...
6:45pm Fri 23 Mar 07

WHY WAIT UNTIL MAY WE SHOULD GET RID OF ALL THE **** SCUMM AND **** AND MUSSLIMS NOW BEFORE THEY TAKE OVER

I SHOUD HAVE JOINED BNP YEARS AGO

VOT BNP

St George, England says...
7:00pm Fri 23 Mar 07

The so called "Liberal Left "Elite" are on the run, they can't stand intelligent constructive debate. If they don't like what you are saying they try and ban it or shout it down. So much for free speach in our democratic society.

Ironside, Swindon says...
7:01pm Fri 23 Mar 07

I've just come back to these comments after posting my original comment at the top of the page.

I have a number of things I would like to add and questions to ask.

First of all to "Voice of Sense " In your replies through the day you have persistently stated that the British National Party are "Racist". I would like to know exactly what it it about them that is racist?

Is it the fact that they want some prober border and immigration controls to be put in place so that the government has control over who exactly enters the UK? Racist or common sense? From where i'm sat, its common sense.

Is it because their policy is only to allow people of indiginous British ancestry to become members? Racist or common sense? where I'm stood, its common sense because whilst there are quite literally thousands of organisations representing the interests of every ethnic and religious group in the UK today, there is only one representing the indigenous population. If you consider that racist, you simply have to judge the rest of the organisations representing the non-indigenous ethnic groups and religions as racist as well don't you? If not, you are unable see the glaringly obvious flaw in your argument and you accusations of racism don't hold water.

How about the fact that it the BNP's policy to provide a voluntary repatriation scheme to enable people of foreign ancestry to return to their homelands? Racism or common sense? This policy is in existence today. It is a Labour party policy and the opportunity to use this scheme is open to these people if they wish to use it. By your own standards, the Labour government must be racist, right? The BNP aren't saying kick all immigrants out, thats the truth of the matter, so why persist with innacuracies or dare I say downright lies?

You say the BNP have links with, what I would consider to be the true "extreme right wing" organisations. Give the FACTUAL EVIDENCE to support this organisation and I'll be happy to concede the point. I know this impossible for you because none of these so called links actually exist and neither does the evidence.

Finally, The British National Party is NOT A ONE ISSUE PARTY . They have some very interesting policies on every single area that a government should genuinely be taking an interest in, for example: The Environment, Energy, NHS, Education.....I could go on but I think I've said enough and some people who've posted here need to start thinking for themselves.

They're not perfect but can you name a political party that is?

As a Postscript:
Mr Mark Waldron. Your comment and indeed the whole tone of your "article" is really quite pathetic. People are sick of lies and spin coming from the government and media circles. Your says it prides itself on supporting the local community, on being a key pillar of the local community. Well you've just exposed yourselves as being well and truly biased in your reporting and I I think a lot of people will be questioning the accuracy and impartiality of your reporting on many other topics aside from this one in the future. Your an embarressment to the town.

LDavies, says...
7:02pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Tobz. It seems that you must be a racist. "Weird foreign rubbish eh"? Tut tut! And Voice of Sense is such a low-life that he insults a man who risked his life fighting Adolf Hitler. What a shower.

ady, says...
7:13pm Fri 23 Mar 07

d miles wrote:
WHY WAIT UNTIL MAY WE SHOULD GET RID OF ALL THE **** SCUMM AND **** AND MUSSLIMS NOW BEFORE THEY TAKE OVER I SHOUD HAVE JOINED BNP YEARS AGO VOT BNP
Public please be aware of the left wing agent provacatour

capstan, Bristol says...
7:17pm Fri 23 Mar 07

i've sent this page to redwatch to ask them to look out for the scum reds that have been posting here


PETER MULLINS, Liskeard, Cornwall says...
7:35pm Fri 23 Mar 07

My final posting of the day...an open invitation.
What a lot of stimulation today's postings have caused, which is very good for democracy and, therefore, very good for us all.
Let me ask you all, yes, all of you, to visit through your browsers, all of the Political Parties websites. Take some time to go through them but leave the last one you visit to that of the British National Party.
Here's the rub. You've got to be completely honest with yourself, no preconceptions allowed. Study what you read and then ask yourself a question.
"Which Party's information and policies most accurately reflect what you HONESTLY think" You have to leave all your baggage, brainwashing, politically correct nonsense and Spin behind and, I am sure, those of you with any intellect that has not been irreparably damaged by indoctrination will agree that, at the very least, the British National Party deserves to be heard in open debate. Try it, you may find it a revelation.
Now, I have to attend a meeting to check out dozens of our Party's Candidates nomination papers for the forthcoming Local Elections. Got to get this right.
Good night, God Bless and may the spirit of St.George be with you.

Cool Cat, multicult cesspit says...
7:55pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Peter Mullins -
Thank God that we have people like you in this insane country of ours. When I read comments from the likes of people like you it makes me realise that all is not lost. To know that people like you actually exist to fight the commie trash that are trying to take over our lovely country is absolutely heart warming. God bless you and please keep up the good work !!

Cllr. Chris Cooke, Tamworth, Staffs says...
8:45pm Fri 23 Mar 07

I try to be independent (indeed I am an Indpendent Councillors). But these comments now well establish the fact that it is the editor of the Swindon Advertiser that is spreading disinformation about the BNP here. But the editor also says the BNP were "spouting far-right rheatoric". Could he be more specific? I really can't find anything at all in the BNP article that one might call far right. And what I might call far right is yelling lies about people and spreading undeserved hatreds. Now I wonder who are the people doing that now!!

Jack Africa, Australia says...
9:26pm Fri 23 Mar 07

There is no choice for the English, Scos, Welsh or Irish if they want to exist freely in 2050 and that only choice is the BNP. the man in the street did not want multi cultures it was foisted on them. I believe my old home town of Dagenham stopped buying one local paper due to lies it told about the BNP and twisted the truth.

David, Frome says...
9:29pm Fri 23 Mar 07

The way this country is going, I can see a civil war looming, I do not support the BNP and not much into politics, but it looks very much to me that the BNP are being bullied. its the type of tactic hitler or stalin used, shocking behaviour!

Manic street preacher, says...
9:34pm Fri 23 Mar 07

It gives me great pleasure to see that the juvenile attacks on the BNP have been well and truly countered by sensible articulate and often humourous retorts. This really is an indicator of the intellectual level the party is at, which completely blows away the often caustic sneers of the media highlighting Nationalists as thugs. On the contrary it clearly shows that the leftwing are certainly unable to enter rational debate without resorting to slander or threats. However my concern is that they will now turn to what they do best, given their connections with organised criminality.... never mind, "we'll fight them on the beaches" The future's bright..The future's BNP!. Goodnight and God bless all who have our nations survival at heart.

chris, corsham, wilts, our beautiful England. says...
10:17pm Fri 23 Mar 07

Well, where to start, :0),

With "voice of Sense" or whatever cover name he is sat here under now. Cos he will be watching, if not now then tomorrow, Any one who knows anything about searchlight or the UAF or respect or the socialist workers party or the CPGB will know who you are. People who care arent daft and you are known to those who do care about the state of this country. Only the fact that I am a reasonable and decent bloke stops me throwing your name into the open arena becasue I believe it would put you in danger from the elements in society who are just exactly like yourselves but on the far far far right of political opinion, they have been mentioned here already, people like the uaf who do advocate violence agaisnt others and carry it out, fire bombing one of our councillors houses in the north not too long ago, big brave people that they are, they waited until the man was away carrying out his legal duty at chambers in a meeting before fire bombing his house with his wife and young child in it. Thank god they both got out unharmed but these are the "activists" of these marxist organisations, cowardly red scum, now if I advocated violence, which I definetly do not, then I would post your ID wouldnt I. As it is I will let you retain your cloak as you dont have the grit to stand without it.

also dont think you are fooling anyone about your politics, just because you slag off blair doesnt make any difference, you feel that he has betrayed you and your communist friends, and to a degree he has, but we also know dont we , that more serious marxist acolytes wait in the wings to fill the vacuum he will soon leave, maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow but they are there and in sufficient numbers to cause upset and climbing, climbing all the time. waitng like hyenas to feast on the corpse of the leader before them. You hate Nu-labour for not delivering your Stalinist utopia in quick enough order, but they are trying hard to bring in a lot of uncle Jo's ideas arent they, the surveillance police state for one, curbs on freedom of thought and speech. still red underneath the pale blue paint job. No ones fooled any more.

for anyone else that is reading still, a couple of points to note, we keep getting the "R" word bandied about when it comes to the BNP. lets sort this out shall we. Racist is a word which describes a person who believes his or her race to be superior to another, go look its in the dictionary. A nationalist is some one who is proud of his or her race, and wishes their culture and heritage, traditions etc , to survive and not disappear and wants what is best for their country first and foremost. Doesnt make them a racist,doesnt mean they hate anyone, they just want their way of life, in their own ancestral homeland to have primacy as it should and to survive, that is the key word, to survive. Currently , as a defined race of people we are killing ourselves out, our traditions and our history are no longer taught sufficiently if at all, yet we must celebrate all other religions and cultures with abandon. All nationalists say is ok, it is good to be educated about other peoples and cultures and religions, but not to the detrement of our own unique past, or we risk everything that lies in our future, you will never know who you truly are if you dont know where you came from or how it all unfolded. Our heritage, our culture , our religion first in OUR country. Not racist, nationalist, fairness, we havent had it here for a long time, balanced , free debate and common sense, a love of ones country , pride in who we were , who we are and who we want to be. Patriotic, not racist. Thank you for reading, I know it was long winded butlike many I feel passionatley about this. BNP, go look , make up your mind freely, debate and take part in the political process, dont swallow the crap produced by the reds without checking it out first. Cheers and god bless the patriots present here.


Andromeda, London says...
10:34pm Fri 23 Mar 07

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www.1party4all.co.uk

the politics equivalent of myspace. Come have a look and see ...

Bill, Wootton says...
11:42pm Fri 23 Mar 07

I feel it is quite wrong to blame the town mayor for this deceitful piece of "journalism".

What has clearly happened is that a dishonest reporter from the Advertiser has approached Mr. Bawden to say something like "the BNP are claiming that they have approved this event"!

Naturally Mr. Bawden has pointed uot that the BNP were not involved in making the arrangements.

Consequently the mayor is every bit a victim of this shoddy piece of disgraceful "journalism" as are the BNP and if the editor of the Swindon Advertiser has a shred of decency about him then he should apologise to both Mr. Bawden and the BNP for the unacceptable behaviour of his dishonest reporter - or is the editor happy for his 'paper to behave in such a sleazy dishonest way? perhaps he'll tell us?

Simon Bennett, Cornwall says...
9:33am Sat 24 Mar 07

Seems to me that public opinion has taken a landslide to the right. Funny thing is, the vast majority of new BNP members and supporters are highly intelligent and articulate people. That fact in itself should tell you all you need to know about the BNP. They are the party for the future of this Country. A vote for anyone else is another nail in the coffin of Britain, freedom and our childrens future!

Tobz, In England's Dreaming... says...
10:14am Sat 24 Mar 07

I can't be bothered to read the rabid ramblings of most of the posts above - difficult to see past the flecks of spittle. However, its interesting to note that so many BNP 'supporters' (or should that be apologists?) who are posting on this thread don't even come from Swindon - or even Wiltshire for that matter. Makes you wonder why they're posting on the comments section of a small provincial paper, doesn't it? Foreigners commenting about evens in a county they don't even live in? Anyone else spot the irony? Doesn't happen with other stories - one can only imagine that someone's posted a link off of a national BNP webside somewhere. The other thing which intreges me is the many references to 'communists' and 'red scum'. What, one set of totalitarians getting upset with another? Victimising each other? If there's any truth to this, please tell me when/where your next set-to is likely to be, as I'd love to pull up a seat and watch procedings, as frankly whatever the result, I'm sure it would be a most satisfying spectacle.

Ironside, Swindon says...
10:30am Sat 24 Mar 07

"Tobz"

I'm from Swindon, why don't you read my posts and address some of the issues I raised in them?

please, don't be scared, it's good to talk!

Tobzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, Swindon IF THAT's ok with Tobzzzz says...
10:39am Sat 24 Mar 07

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz if you arent one of the masquaraders from the Ugly And Fragrant or the other criminal communist outfits, then you certainly are acting like one. What is your issue with people standing up for this country? Why do those like you turn a blind eye to what is going on?. Only someone who has ulterior motives or has perhaps been incarcerated for many years would be so naive to think the country is a bed of roses. It is not, we have an imported crime epidemic, our system is failing due to corrution and the needs of outsiders who come here to poach the benefits of our taxes, the country is being sold off to the highest bidder, quite soon there will be nothing left here. Is that what you want, or are you going to tell me (and the rest of the people watching this that it isnt so). It is your apathetic attitude and that of those like you that have allowed things to slide so far. Get a backbone man, do what is morally right and fight for the future of your country.

Eh? whats he on about, Swindon says...
10:50am Sat 24 Mar 07

Totalitarian? what on earth is he on about. YOU are living in a totalitarian state NOW. From being told how to make lifestyle choices to state indoctrination at schools, from being led ito illegal wars where over 90% of the population said no, to not listening to the over 94% of the public when they demanded a reduction in fuel duty during the petrol strike. For being locked away for thought crimes, to seeing pensioners jailed for not paying Community Charge..and believe me the list is endless. This is a dictatorship, its just that a lessening number of people havent caught on yet, and you Tobz are evidently one of them. The BNP couldnt make things worse, and might just prove to improve things.

john, Swindon says...
10:56am Sat 24 Mar 07

I have been buying the evening advertiser for the last 30 years and my father used to buy it when i was a boy ,well i can tell the reporter that made up these lies that i will not be buying it no more unless he says sorry for lying about the bnp ,no im not a member of the bnp just a seeker of the truth,mind you after reading the bnp site i think its the only place to get the truth ,go there see for yourself. .Maybe if a few hundred more people cancel their advertiser next week they might realize people dont like lying papers .Shame on you

Tobz, says...
11:07am Sat 24 Mar 07

I wasn't addressing my comments specifically to you Ironside - but about those who apparently associate with the same cause as you. I'd be more than happy to debate the issues with you, but I'm not exactly impressed by the level of rational thought which seems to be coming from some of the previous posts. EG:
Tobz. It seems that you must be a racist. "Weird foreign rubbish eh"?
Talk about an irony bypass! (or is he just a-typically? Some of the posts above seem to suggest that BNP supporters are unusually intellectual. Not too much evidence so far...) He has of course entirely missed the point I was making. But then again, policies of racial hatred (or 'mild' stereotypical dislike) seem in general to have been based on simplistic mass appeal. Mssrs Hitler and Mussolini got that one tapped...

Can you answer why all of a sudden this thread has posts from all over the UK?

D'y know, reading your post, I don't disagree with some of your personal polictics. Yes, I agree there needs to be some proper immigration control. Things have gone far to far - and the abolition of border controls has been a policy of plain stupity in my opinion.

Where BNP policies move into the realms of the ridiculous and obviously self contradictory is when you say
Is it because their policy is only to allow people of indiginous British ancestry to become members?


If thats the case, then Yep - thats facism by any other name. I don't like it that other racial groups can create exclusive memberships - I think its wrong. But two wrongs - especially a petty mean minded wrong - does not make a right - or allow an organisation with historical links to fascists appologists to try and take the moral high ground.

The other issue which this completely ignores is that the British national strength has always come from that fact that we're a mongrel race of blended inheritance, be it Celt, Angle, French, Latin, Hugenaut, Indian, African, etc etc etc. We've ALWAYS been a multicultral race - just open a dictionary and you'll see the number of words we've adopted from other cultures over the millenia. Try and buy something after 8.00 - and it'll be from the local corner shop run by a harworking asian family. Get a take-way from the Turks at the bottom of the street etc etc. These people haven't taken away things from our culture - they've added to it. I find any party which has policies or supporters who'd attack the interests of people who legally live, work, pay tax and participate in our society as abhorent. No, I'm no lefty by any stretch of the imagination, and by god yes, I hate political correctness, I hate the totalitarianism of 'New Labour' and I hate the Nanny State. But I don't believe the colour of someone's skin or cultural differences are factors which necessarily define whether entire groups of people are in conflict with the national interest. Quite the contrary.

As for being 'scared' - if 'chris' from Corsham with his weird (and frankly rather paranoid sounding) posting about the 'red scum' and the 'stalinism' of New Labour and their 'marxist acolytes' are anything to go by, perhaps there's good reason that few people want to engage with the BNP in public debate?

Tobz, says...
11:10am Sat 24 Mar 07

PS - for all of those who think I'm a lefty, I'm most amused. People who know me definately decribe me as being to the right. Ho hum.

Tobz, says...
11:13am Sat 24 Mar 07

PPS:
Totalitarian? what on earth is he on about. YOU are living in a totalitarian state NOW.


I know - I couldn't agree more either, and I'm doing my own bit in my own way to combat it too. But NOT via the BNP (or through 'the commies', 'red scum' ect either, in case you were wondering)

Voice of Sense, The World says...
11:24am Sat 24 Mar 07

Chris from corsham - thanks for not telling on me to the nasty people, but somebody else has already reported me to redwatch it seems - I had to look them up - nice people!!!

And you wonder why I'm not using a real name!

I too am completely against all the scum in today's society, but as Tobz says above, I do not believe that the BNP with all its thuggery and pseudo-politics is the answer, its just another layer of crime to seal over the current one.

And as for the claims that I must be a commie from an organisation such as searchlight, or th UAF or whatever. I had never even heard of them until now.

But as I've said before, that can't be possible in the silly scared minds of the BNP - I'm not one of you therefore I must be a bleeding heart left wing activist?

99.9% of the scum in Swindon is home-grown white folk.

Some of the bnp posters here might want to look it up, as you clearly have to be called up from around the country and even the world to spout your bile.

Anyway - I have a weekend of happy family activities to undertake with my head in the clouds no doubt.

I just hope my family don't get murdered by a gang of immigrants because I hate it when that happens.

loose rivet, says...
11:38am Sat 24 Mar 07

Voice of Sense wrote:
I\'ve not seen any intelligent argument from the BNP here?

I\'ve not seen anyine say they don\'t love their country?

All I see are people who are scared of the world, and those that are laughing at them for it.
before you mention the lack of inteligent argument from anyone do a spell check, you idiot!

Chris, Corsham, Wiltshire says...
11:46am Sat 24 Mar 07

Tobz, You raise some interesting points which I will answer in due course, I will be brief (ish) as shortly I am attending my local MP's surgery to raise certain issues with him. What I will say in this post as I am short of time is that I refute your "paranoid" slur, My worries and concerns for this country are well founded, you said yourself that you have no love of the nanny state and political correctness and yet it is all you spout. You have had so many years of being spoon fed the cultural marxism that is political correctness that you cant think outside the box, Whilst I was in the army I was lucky enough, if thats the right word, to travel to east Berlin whilst it was still in the grip of its cold war masters. The only other time I saw fear in peoples eyes that matched those of east berliners was In Iraq when it was still under saddam hussein and his secret police. I now start to see the same fear creeping into normal everyday conversations here in the UK, people are frightened to voice their true opinions for fear of this government and the political police, someone else quoted the facts of the 80 odd year old bundled out of a labour conference for daring to utter a word of dissent, it is everywhere you look, the country is being changed beyond all recognition without the majority populations consent and all the while the powers that be do exactly as they please, democracy is paid lipservice at best and completley circumvented in the normal scheme of things. With regard to your comments that we have always been multiracial, well innacurate to say the least and misleading most definetly. That is a whole debate on its own which I will have to return to, nice to see you trot out the current multicult perceived wisdom though, just confirms what I was saying about spoon fed history and politics. Must dash for now, I have enjoyed reading this this morning but Mr Grey awaits and it is bad manners to be late. back soon as duty allows. Hope the editor is loving this, enjoy :0)

ady, yorkshire says...
11:51am Sat 24 Mar 07

Tobz. I really think you need to get your history books out. The British (ie English Scots Welsh Irish) are not a 'mongrel race' This is a myth spread by the reconstructed PC educational system along with their media allies. The British have dna that is almost identical to that of the people that reside on the European continent ie. the Dutch, German, Danish, French etc. These people reside a mere few hundred miles from the UK and our genetic make up similar due to the UK once having been joined to the continents. Mitrocondial DNA sampling has verified that prior to the 1950's there existed extremely limited dna from other races ie Africa, Asians etc etc in excess of 99% 5of the UK population. Therefore, it is pure fantasy and wishful thinking to suggest that we are a mongrel race.

Bill, Wootton says...
12:04pm Sat 24 Mar 07

This thread has gone way off subject. It is not about the rights or wrongs of BNP policies but about whether the Advertiser has deliberately lied to us - its readership about what the BNP has allegedly said.

Having read the BNP article myself there can be NO DOUBT that the Advertiser HAS LIED.

This is an UTTER DISGRACE and the editor should print an apology to all concerned imcluding us - the readers!

The BNP article is as follows:-

"There was a time when St. George’s Day was a largely ignored and forgotten politically-incorrect old English tradition. Then of course the BNP began promoting it with much waving and display of the “Crusader” flag, with the result that embarrassed councils were forced to bow to growing public opinion and to fly it once again from corporation flagpoles!

As the BNP has been at the vanguard of this campaign for some years there is no reason why we shouldn't claim some credit for its success! In fact we retrieved the flag of St. George from the gutter where the Lib-Lab-Conmen had slung it and made them put it back where it belongs!

The news that Swindon Council are to hold a special St. George’s Day concert in the main chamber of the civic offices has been met with much enthusiasm and approval by Swindon British National Party. “It’s a reflection of the growing resentment over how our culture and national identity has been eroded over the years - people are rightly proud to be English and are getting increasingly assertive in reminding proponents of multiculturalism that this is England, we are the English and this is OUR country!”

It is believed that the Kentwood Choir will probably go down in the town’s history as the first musical act to appear in the council chamber. Its musical director is reported to have said: ”We will give people a full mix of entertainment from jazz to jingoism. The ending will be a rousing crescendo of Jerusalem, I Vow To Thee My Country and Rule Britannia.” - an excellent choice in our opinion - guaranteed to really upset the Labour Party and liberal-left!

This is an event that deserves support – it is “BNP Approved” – so make sure you fly your flag with pride!"

JOHN B, BRISTOL says...
12:17pm Sat 24 Mar 07

Vote BNP on May 3rd and help save this once great country.

Anne, Swindon, 298-946 says...
2:19pm Sat 24 Mar 07

Pauline wrote:
St George\'s Day is a special day for English people. It is politically correct nonsense to try to claim it is a celebration of multi-culturalism. Don\'t our politicians realise that they are playing into the hands of the BNP by trying to smother thousands of years of English culture by promoting people, religions and cultures that only arrived on our shores in any significant numbers over the past 50 years. Someone has to stand up for the traditional folk of these islands and at the moment it appears that only the BNP is prepared to do so.
Thousands of years of English culture? England hasn't even been united for thousands of years! If this is the intelligence one can expect from BNP supporters then I dread to think what will happen if the BNP are ever elected.
(Actually it's the policies on taking back Ireland that really make me worry and their mysogynistic points of view that really make me worry but their unintelligent voters are a close third.)

Anne, Swindon says...
2:35pm Sat 24 Mar 07

Just one more thing to add now that i've read more of the posts.
Don't people realise that the BNP's policies are often in fact very left wing. Many of them are socialist policies in fact. So it is very amusing to see many people considering communists to be the opposite of the BNP!

Bill, Wootton says...
2:41pm Sat 24 Mar 07

Anne wrote "Actually it's the policies on taking back Ireland that really make me worry...)"

Where can I find this "policy" Anne?

Please advise, Bill

Bill, Wootton says...
2:54pm Sat 24 Mar 07

Sorry Anne - while you are trying to find a credible source for your absurd assertion that the BNP intend "taking back Ireland" perhaps you could explain this other quote from yourself "England hasn't even been united for thousands of years! If this is the intelligence one can expect from BNP supporters"

Well, to my certain knowlege England hasn't existed for "thousands of years". Wasn't it Alfred the Great that first unified the country into what we now know as "England" - about 1,300 years ago?

I suggest this says a lot more about your intelligence (or lack of) than it ever does of the people you are so arrogantly trying to denigrate!

mike, Corsham says...
3:19pm Sat 24 Mar 07

Well what a wild bunch we are, most fun I have seen in ages. What concerns me is that during previous elections and in this instance the Adver and its left wing editor has worked hand in glove with UAF ANAL and the likes to spread lies and disinformation about the BNP and UKIP and anyone else that would spoil there enriched Eutopia of hammer attacks and gang rape. And there was me thinking that papers were impartial.DONT BUY THE ADVER THEN THE EDITOR WILL BE OUT ON HIS EAR...SIMPLE AS!

ron, belfast says...
4:21pm Sat 24 Mar 07

i'm not from Swindon in fact i've never been there but it's another part of the uk and therefor i feel the right to express my views.for too long the nation has pandered to the left and their multi-cultural sell out.i can't start to explain the relief i feel when i read the messages from like minded people urging the country to actually take time to look around and observe what is really going on right under their noses and in their name.the fact that the comments urge free thought to enable others to come to their very own independant conclusion is proof that the BNP and their ever growing support are the new voice of briton.i really do believe that these elections will be a huge success for the BNP and with the general election not a very long way off there too can inroads be made.the true british people are slowly awakening to the lies and deceit that they have been dieted on.the tied is turning.good luck to all the BNP candidits who dare raise their head above the parapit!

chris, Keighley BNP says...
4:58pm Sat 24 Mar 07

It really does not matter what replies hit this message page, the BNP are now taking votes for the fact that other political parties cannot or will not listen to the electorate. Too much too late. We do however make it clear that certain comments on this page who show support for the BNP are not acceptable in terms of our political aims. We are a growing professional party and comments posted in anger or hatred do not represent what the BNP are about. By all means vote for our party, but please leave the nasty remarks at home.

Chris, corsham, wiltshire says...
5:04pm Sat 24 Mar 07

Bill In Wotton, you are right, I and others here have gone off thread and I apologise to all, I do feel though that if rampant anti BNP propaganda and free speech infringement is left unchallenged we shall very soon have no opportunity to discuss these problems at all. That said you are correct and I agree with all your assertions, the editor has at the very least misrepresented what was said by the BNP and at worst can be considered to have lied. Either way this demonstrates a lack of judgement on his part and certainly shows that the media, in this instance the Advertiser, but to a degree all the press are by no means impartial in their reporting and in the case of the BNP have been positively hostile for the last 25 years.

The one light at the end of the tunnel is the fact that the majority are now waking up to this and that can only be a good thing.

To Ady in Yorkshire, thank you sir for enlightning people about the multicult/racial heritage question, saved me a big job and you did it much more eloquently than I would have done. My thanks to you.

James grey to his credit was quite decent when I saw him, I feel that he could be magnanimous though as he will not be representing us for much longer and is perhaps leaving gracefully.

Lenny Freedman - BNP, Liverpool says...
5:04pm Sat 24 Mar 07

Ron, Belfast, hello mate :-)
I served in and around Belfast in the 70's. Great land, great people - pity about the beer - ha-ha, just kidding ;o)
Good to have you aboard!

one flew over the cuckoo\'s nest, Swindon..ok with you Tobzz? says...
5:21pm Sat 24 Mar 07

Well done Anne, for making the connection that the BNP are actually socialists, but then the line between "National" Socialism and Communism were very indistinct, near yet so far. So it really destroys the image the media and its lackeys try to give the BNP as being "far right". In fact if totalitarianism and political leaning go hand in hand, then I would definetly argue that the recognised "Left" as in UAF/ANL/and all the other undemocratic Communistic organisations are the ones to be watched. As for your assumption that English culture is a relatively new phenomenen, well I doubt if King Harold would agree with you. Also on the subject of mysoginy, I would say that the present government have created a matriachal society which will no longer develop due to "nanny" constantly making sure her ward doesnt be naughty. Perhaps there are many men involved with the BNP, but then there are also a growing number of women too. I think that although women have historically been less involved with politics, the "Liberal Left" have cultivated this bounty of potential voters with the result that Labour have lost the traditional voters but gone for the femininst and immigrant vote instead. I doubt if any of the increasing BNP females would agree completely with your view that they are perhaps lesser to the men though!

Tobzzz, you really are a self loathing ignoramus. If you are calling the Celts a mongrel race then you are completely out of touch-the weakest link I'm afraid, Bye.

V.O.S...the super intellectual (and Tobzzzzzzzzz too!), so you are aware of all that is going wrong but dont think the BNP are the answer, well then who is? Tobzzz says he is doing his bit to fight the system? How? the LibLab=Con are one in the same, the same money men backers, the same ultimate goals, so who's left, Respect? Respect who and what?, UKIP? designed and paid for by the three party coalition to stop the growth of the BNP?. Whether you like it or not, the people need a banner to fight under, no, perhaps the BNP arent perfect, no party ever will be, but they are the closest thing to a "resistance" movement that we have, and dont the other corrupt lot know it.

You know, reading some of the "anti" comments, I realise that there has been some awful guilt instilled in some segments of the population, a self loathing and doubt of their place in the world, and yet arrogance in their belief that their own personal (but twisted) view of being British should apply to us all. If this is what being intellectually superior means in Britain today, a view no doubt carefylly imprinted on impressionable minds by rabid teachers and lecturers, then I will gladly say I am working class and intellectually below average, at least I wont have to beat myself up for being born a Brit!

Pete Friedman - BNP, Swindon says...
5:39pm Sat 24 Mar 07

I've spent a hard day blacked-up and in chains, flogging myself with barbed wire over the slavery carried out by the ancestors of those in Westminster.

It hasn't worked, however. I still don't feel guilty.


chris, corsham says...
6:11pm Sat 24 Mar 07

Peter, I thought I knew all the bnp swindon chaps and chapesses, perhaps not or maybe you are using another name to conceal yuour id becasue you have to but please think about what you are going to say if you are putting BNP with your name. A lot of people are humourless and take things totally the wrong way, I understand where you are coming from as only the monied elite truly benefitted from slavery so you are accurate but you know what folk are like, just a thought.

Pete Friedman, Swindon says...
6:38pm Sat 24 Mar 07

chris wrote:
Peter, I thought I knew all the bnp swindon chaps and chapesses, perhaps not or maybe you are using another name to conceal yuour id becasue you have to but please think about what you are going to say if you are putting BNP with your name. A lot of people are humourless and take things totally the wrong way, I understand where you are coming from as only the monied elite truly benefitted from slavery so you are accurate but you know what folk are like, just a thought.
Thanks, Chris. Understood. I write humorously to illustrate the absurdity of the self-hating liberal PC brigade.
I have nothing against Blacks or any other races. It's the white Liberal self-flagelating appeasers and their Searchlight pals I don't like.
I have Black friends and they are really embarassed by all this.
I'm not a member but will apply soon, and I'll be voting BNP in May.

helen, says...
6:52pm Sat 24 Mar 07

Well said Pete Friedman. We should all speak the truth and keep a sense of irony and humour.

Bill, Wootton says...
6:59pm Sat 24 Mar 07

helen wrote:
Well said Pete Friedman. We should all speak the truth and keep a sense of irony and humour.
Which brings me back to my point - the Advertiser HAS LIED - plain and simple!

It has tried to DECEIVE the public for reasons best known to itself.

That is DISGUSTING and just goes to prove the gutter press extends way beyonf Fleet Street, Wapping and Canary Wharf!

APOLOGY REQUIRED PDQ!

chris, corsham, wilts. says...
7:00pm Sat 24 Mar 07

Thats cool Pete , I will look out for you,

I am glad you read it in the spirit it was written, I have some black friends too, mostly soldiers or police but even they cringe at whats happening, as you say the flaggellants are a law unto themselves, we are all demons if we dont subscribe to their thoughts, in fairness I cant really say all are leftie extremists although there are those types on both sides but there are a lot of "misguided" folk out there who follow it all as it trips out of government as though each and every word was the gospel. I supported the tories when I was younger until I matured and knew a little more of the world, then when I could take their sleaze and arrogance no longer I voted labour, once , in 97, to my shame, I really thought this lot would be different, how stupid did I look 4 years down the line, party of the working man my arse, I grew and studied and matured further still, and read and read, Then I joined the party and they are still the only ones even approximating a political movement that represent mostly how I and my friends and family feel, it is a big step but you have to take it after considering all the options or lack of them. Lionel (the black man who was best man at my wedding) I know you read this stuff my friend and you know where I am coming from. BNP in May, our country's only way.

Sir George Uproar, Shropshire says...
7:03pm Sat 24 Mar 07

Read this and then tell me that any part of it is wrong or racist. Vote BNP in May.



MINORITY RULE


The best ideas are often very simple, so is the truth when you find it, the realization that minority rule had replaced majority rule in this country was such a moment for me.

We are living in a dictatorship run not by an individual but by a collection of minority groups that have by stealth hijacked our political system, our society, our culture and freedom of choice, with virtually zero immigration control, all the major parties have leapfrogged each other to secure the huge and growing multicultural vote, and with all opposition silenced by law or political correctness the SHIELDS handed out to the minorities TO PROTECT THEM are now being used by them as CLUBS to beat the majority.

I expect most of you, like me, dread picking up a newspaper or turning on the television or radio, for fear of being enraged by another story of someone abusing the health, or immigration service, or literally getting away with murder, rape or violence because some money grabbing lawyer had found a way of using some section of the so called human rights law to help them avoid justice.

New words are introduced by these minorities to collectively label all opposition such as homophobic, racist and xenophobic, just like making up that word in a crossword that didn’t really exist to make things fit.

One of the words we keep putting in the wrong place is the word right when we mean privilege, we do this to justify the unfair treatment of the majority by the minority, and because the majority naturally don’t like it we then have to make up unfair laws to force them into going along with things.

I don’t believe it’s a human right to jump a queue, or gain a promotion or a special consideration because of the colour of your skin or your religious beliefs, or your sexual preferences. I believe it’s a privilege.

I don’t believe it’s a human right to share in another societies wealth, its health service, it’s education system, its housing or its welfare benefits when you have never put anything in. I believe it’s a privilege.

I don’t understand how it’s correct to have a newspaper called Black Britain, but not one called White Britain.

I don’t understand how you can have a commission for racial equality that is run exclusively by non-white people.

I don’t understand why a march or demonstration by any minority group is described as a celebration of their culture, but a march by the majority population to celebrate their colour or sexuality is instantly branded as racism or homophobia.

We are not in this situation by the desires of bad men or women, but by the most dangerous people in any society “The well intentioned do gooders” It is easy to fight against a vicious and cruel dictator their evil is obvious and actually unites people against them, taking comfort in the fact they are not alone.

It is good intent that has brought misery to millions of people on housing estates all over the country, with no protection from the pitiless torments of out of control youths.

It is good intent that has turned our prisons into soft touch drug riven universities of crime, feared only by the innocent who have never been in them and it is good intent that has destroyed the authority and respect for the police and the laws they try to uphold.

Our children go to schools where the disruptive bully runs the classroom, and the ultimate punishment for bad behaviour is removal to a school with more facilities and attention than is available to the well behaved left behind.

We live in a society where the elderly in care are forced to sell homes they worked for all their lives to subsidise their care, while limitless amounts are spent to feed, clothe and shelter illegal immigrants and their extended families from around the world.

We live in a society where in spite of the pill, and fourteen other forms of contraception, adoption and abortion on demand, we still encourage young girls to have babies without fathers, by providing them with homes they don’t have to pay for and money they don’t have to earn whilst making them the envy of their friends, yet in many instances married couples both go to work and are not able to see their own children grow up whilst trying to make ends meet.

I believe as more and more injustice is heaped on the majority it is simply a matter of time before pent up rage eventually explodes into civil disorder on a scale never seen in this country. If we are to turn back the tide of political correctness destroying our culture we must empower the silent but angry majority by offering referendum voting on all major issues, like levels of immigration, the return of capital punishment, the re introduction of corporal punishment, zero tolerance of anti social behaviour and the abolition of laws that enslave the majority by giving to much power to the minority, it’s time to say NO MORE or see this country destroyed from within.

Arthur, Wilts says...
7:13pm Sat 24 Mar 07

An interesting thread with some startling comments. However, the theme should remain on the journalist who wrote the article and the editor who passed it for publication. Those who have read the BNP article all agree that the Advertiser has, indeed, skewed the 'story' in order to cast a slur upon the BNP. Now, irrelevant to ones own political leaning, this practice is very commonplace in this country among the whole of the media, not only newspapers, and is very worrying.
I say worrying because throughout history we have learnt that control of the news is the first objective of oppressive governments. It starts off by those controlling the media refusing to engage in dialogue with those who pose a threat to their own agenda. It then progresses to misuse of the language (as we see in this case) and finally to full blown propaganda. Joseph Goebbels was a supreme master of the use of propaganda as a political tool, and we can see modern day tyrants following suit. For example Robert Mugabe has had the free press in Zimbabwe shut down and those associated with it thrown into jail.
I remember some months ago a news report on ITV which started off by saying there was a disturbing rise in 'right-wing' parties throughout Europe and here in Britain the BNP had won 12 seats in one town alone (Barking). The report then went on to inform us that some homicidal maniac had shot dead a black women and a Turkish women in the city of Brussels. A senior member of the Belgian 'Vlaams Belang' (similar to the BNP) party was interviewed and asked what he thought of the murders. He quite rightly stated that the perpetrator had no affiliation to his party but he thought the murders were horrendous. The question that should be asked about this episode is 'why should ITN include the BNP (a British legal political party) in a news item about the murder of two female immigrants in Belgium'? The only conclusion I can come up with is subtle propaganda.
Gavin, on this thread said, "being British means being tolerant", and I agree that tolerance has been a notable feature of the British culture for many years. However, if we become over-tolerant we will be walked over by those who wish to take our freedoms away and mould a society to a structure that the majority would not like. This is already happening. Gordon Brown has said he will confiscate all monies in ‘dormant’ bank accounts. (Those accounts which have had no access for fifteen years or longer). My British culture of knowing right from wrong tells me that this is plain and simple theft on a grand scale. The tragedy is no-one, and particularly the press, has voiced any objection to it. So it will continue. Some Oxford University students are awaiting a decision by the CPS (Crown Prosecution Service) to see if they are to be charged with a criminal offence. What did they do? Print one of the infamous Swedish cartoons depicting Mohammed in the university magazine. So today in Britain cartoons can get you a prison sentence and a criminal record. An Englishman is today languishing in prison because an Iraqi illegal immigrant, who has proven to be a liar and cheat, says he was racially abused by the Englishman. No witnesses, no injuries and only circumstantial evidence. The fact that the Englishman was a known member of the BNP might have had something to do with it.
But which mainstream newspapers, radio or television stations are publicising these things? Virtually none. There is no public outcry about such things because the general public are not aware and this is just how the ruling elite want it. Your freedoms and culture are being taken away from you in such a way you don’t realise it and won’t realise it until it is too late.
So all you who are castigating the BNP and calling them fascists should, first of all read about fascism, and then open your eyes to what is going on in this tolerant and vibrant country. Then go to a BNP meeting, engage with the members and then decide who are the fascists.

Pete Friedman, says...
7:20pm Sat 24 Mar 07

Chris, Corsham, thanks mate, I appreciate your support and understanding. I take on board what you say too. I was on site with a Sikh plasterer a while ago and during an evening at the pub I told him I supported the BNP. He straight away said he did too, and asked me if I would turn away from him when they came to power. It choked me up I can tell you. Of course I won't. These divisive 'antifascists' are doing so much harm to race relations. I sometimes wonder if that's what they really want.

Chris, corsham, wilts. says...
8:16pm Sat 24 Mar 07

Peter, glad to be of service. I have to say you seem like a decent bloke, as for sikhs, well they have always stood by us and we them, I am thinking especially of both world wars. Decent people and brave with it, I believe Nick Griffin had a Sikh gentleman as a character witness at his first trial, I was chatting to a Mr Singh today whilst waiting to see James Grey, he knows who I am and my political beliefs and is happy to know me and I him, we both want the same thing, respect for our own cultures without favour or bias and a decent society to raise our children in, he is voting fo us in May too. This must be such a shock in waiting for those who have tried their best to destroy who we are, everyone can see what is going wrong but them and the media. However, the very fact that this commnets column hasnt been pulled so far must mean that even the media now realise that they are on a sticky wicket with pubkic opinion running as it is. We live in interesting times, lets see what May brings.god bless all, goodnight.

loose rivet, Liverpool says...
9:49pm Sat 24 Mar 07

Pete Friedman wrote:
Chris, Corsham, thanks mate, I appreciate your support and understanding. I take on board what you say too. I was on site with a Sikh plasterer a while ago and during an evening at the pub I told him I supported the BNP. He straight away said he did too, and asked me if I would turn away from him when they came to power. It choked me up I can tell you. Of course I won\'t. These divisive \'antifascists\' are doing so much harm to race relations. I sometimes wonder if that\'s what they really want.
One of the Birmingham BNP actavists was out canvasing when he knocked on one door and a huge Asien man opened the door. He new he was in trouble when he stared straight into his chest, before he could cover up his rossete with his clipboard and utter the words "double glazing sir" the chap had spotted who he was and said "I've been waiting for you f*****s to arrive" grabed him and forced him inside. He then said "you've only had problems with the M*****s for 20 yrs we've had it for 400" the BNP do well in Birmingham and they would not do that without the black and Sikh vote. The BNP have gone from standing where they do well to doing well where they stand. Bring on May 3rd, last may I was a Labour voter this May I'm a BNP candidate and in a mixed race marriage and sick of being told I'm a racist.

JOHN, West Yorkshire says...
6:46am Sun 25 Mar 07

'Old yor 'osses a minnit you lot -- (turn it in to you suverners), - as Arthur in Wilts brought everyone back to the main subject, is anyone else wondering why this thread hasn't been pulled?? Is the editor, and are the journalists letting it run as a kind of apology, or are they just watching the site "hits" go through the roof? If thats the case, then a lot more people are having their eyes opened to whats been happening in this country for decades - leading up to the concept today that if you are white you are automatically a racist. If you are hetrosexual, you are automatically homophobic, a Christian is automatically islamaphobic, -- amongst all these misconceptions and deceits, it is now accepted (and by an independent councillor), that the Swindon Advertiser told a porky. Okay - so that means the BNP article didn't. Shouldn't the readers of this site now be asking themselves -- as the BNP didn't make false claims on this, - what else HAVEN'T they made false claims on?? Their site dosn't mislead - there is always a link to the main story or scandal. Figures quoted are usually the Governments or the relevant departments. I'm dreaming i know, - but if the people at the Advertiser suddenly went beserk - published all pro-BNP material - told the full truth about whats going on - reported FACTS regardless of "political correctness", race, religion, or sexuality - then watch the papers circulation soar!! Its surely an eye-opener for the MANY people to be in conversation with someone on any subject, getting along quite nicely, and then find out that the nice person you are talking to is a BNP member/supporter. Yes, i've seen the dropping in amazement jaw, to find that this reasonable, intelligent, agreeable person you've been chatting and agreeing with for the last half hour is not the nazi thug with a swastika tattooed on their forehead as usually described. So why don't you people who throw the names about - claiming to be the intellectuals - do what thinking people do and actually FIND OUT about the other side of the coin? (I mean by yourselves-not by believing - "the paper says it happened so it must be true"). After all - its easy to say -"That person or group dosn't know what its talking about" or call that person/group a load of names -- ask yourself -- So why not hold a debate with them and prove it?? -- Every fair minded person must be wondering why the name callers don't enter debate - could their policies be proved to be a farce? Would it be too embarrassing to admit to the general public where the public money actually goes? Its put up or shut up - you know it makes sense.

tom, florida says...
9:28am Sun 25 Mar 07

Ever notice how tolerant these preachers against intolerance are?

Jesse, Swindon says...
11:01am Sun 25 Mar 07

I was interested in the claims of the BNP supporters here that the Advertiser had, {by mistake or design} misrepresented what the BNP website had said.

I went to the BNP website and it is indeed true.

I am not a member of the BNP and would never vote for them.

But the advertiser owes the BNP the right of reply or a retraction. If they do not then I personally will not buy another copy. So far it has been a fine publication but lyin is lying, no matter who the subject of the lies happens to be.

The young lady next door to me is planning on voting BNP. I have been trying to persuade her not to, I seriously think my ardour for this enterprise has been dampened by this incident.

Anyway I hope the BNP loses every seat it has, not because of lies told by fools but because the party of my youth {labour} has returned to listening to the people who founded it.

JOHN, West Yorkshire says...
11:29am Sun 25 Mar 07

Jesse -- when did that happen then?? Its not on the news. The "appearance" of listening isn't supposed to happen for another two weeks - oops, they bodged something else up -- well, at least they are consistent!

Carl, Bath says...
1:54pm Sun 25 Mar 07

I do hope the Searchlight gang keep recruiting for the BNP. People don't like being told who they can't vote for, and the support thus generated for the BNP is excellent.

Keep it up you commie dimbos :-)

Grant, says...
2:06pm Sun 25 Mar 07

Come on Advertiser, admit it – You Lied!


We have been reviewing the article recently published by the foreign-owned Swindon Advertiser alleging that the British National Party has taken “credit for a St George's Day charity concert” in Swindon - because we cannot understand why Swindon’s Mayor would have condemned the BNP for something we have NEVER claimed!

Mr. Bawden, the Mayor, is reported in the LYING Swindon Advertiser article as saying: ” This event has had nothing at all to do with the BNP. They have had no involvement in organising it and there is no way the borough council would enter into any arrangement with them as an organisation.” Which is, of course, absolutely true.

But why, we ask, would Cllr. Bawden think that Swindon BNP were making this claim? He could not have got that from the BNP Regional Voices website – because the BNP, either locally or nationally, has never made that claim.

So here’s what we believe has happened.

The story so far as we understand it.

A reporter from the Swindon Advertiser read the original story (see below) on the BNP’s Regional Voices website.

He/she then approached Cllr. Bawden misrepresenting the contents of the BNP article, presumably for the purposes of soliciting the sort of response that Cllr. Bawden would inevitably and did, provide – this providing the reporter with the “story”!

The story was then run by the Swindon Advertiser as “news”!

What other explanation is likely we ask? Had Cllr. Bawden been aware of the BNP article before being contacted by the Swindon Advertiser then why would he have allegedly made the comments attributed to him? It does not make sense does it?

Apologies required.

At this point in time we are prepared to believe that the editor of the Swindon Advertiser had no knowledge of, or hand in, the manufacturing of this LIE. Consequently we call upon this gentleman, through the columns of the paper he edits, to:

(a) Apologise to Cllr. Bawden, Swindon’s Mayor, for the perceived deception perpetrated upon him by the Swindon Advertiser reporter concerned.

(b) Apologise to Swindon BNP for grievously misrepresenting them - an act, presumably, of personal malice.

(c) Apologise to the readership of the Swindon Advertiser for deceiving them.

Press Complaints Commission Code of Practice.

We would also like to remind the editor of the Swindon Advertiser of the Press Complaints Commission’s Code of Practice. The relevant sections we reproduce here:

All members of the press have a duty to maintain the highest professional standards. This Code sets the benchmark for those ethical standards, protecting both the rights of the individual and the public's right to know. It is the cornerstone of the system of self-regulation to which the industry has made a binding commitment.

It is essential that an agreed code be honoured not only to the letter but in the full spirit. It should not be interpreted so narrowly as to compromise its commitment to respect the rights of the individual, nor so broadly that it constitutes an unnecessary interference with freedom of expression or prevents publication in the public interest.

It is the responsibility of editors and publishers to implement the Code and they should take care to ensure it is observed rigorously by all editorial staff and external contributors, including non-journalists, in printed and online versions of publications.

Clause 1: Accuracy.

The Press must take care not to publish inaccurate, misleading or distorted information, including pictures.


from:

http://www.bnp.org.uk/reg_showarticle.php?contentID=2280


melanie - bnp, says...
2:08pm Sun 25 Mar 07

what's happening in diverse multicult rainbow world -

http://www.uktabloid.co.uk/Main%20News.html

see also - http://www.whitewolves.org.uk/

help stop the commie fascists ruining our country - vote bnp on may 3rd

Carl, Bath says...
2:17pm Sun 25 Mar 07

Why does the media print lieas and distortions against the BNP?
Why aren't the BNP given airtime?
Why won't politicians engage with the BNP is open, honest public debate?
Why is the liblabcon's Searchlight gang trying to interfere in the elections?
Why is the violent immigrant crime wave inflicted on native Britons not reported?
Why am I a racist for wanting to live in peace in my own country?

Many more lies and liars will be exposed before polling day.

http://www.bnp.org.uk/

John, Swindon says...
3:09pm Sun 25 Mar 07

I as many others call on the advertiser to say sorry for lying to its readers ,you should be ashamed. Can we hear at least from a lacky spokes person or dont you give a dam what your readers think ,you will when your sales drop

Patriot, Oxford says...
4:07pm Sun 25 Mar 07

Jesse - So the party of your youth has returned to looking after it's indigenous majority ! What fairystory was that in then? If , and it's a BIG IF they have leaned just a weeny bit this way (right) then I think that you will find that it's because of an event that will be happening in May ! Yes that's right elections ! As for your comments about the labour party in your youth - I don't know how old you are but it must have been a long time ago ! The labour party and the libs and cons have ceased to look after the BRITS for at least 50 years !!
As for your neighbour - Who the **** do you think you are to assume that this young lady should need your guidance? You are obviously doing what your friends in the labour party have been doing for the last 50 years - LYING, AND MISLEADING the young into their evil commie clutches !!

Frank, London says...
5:39pm Sun 25 Mar 07

Sir George you are right about pent up rage, and Carl you are certainly right about crime now being totally out of control no matter how much the useless gultless Nulab lackeys lie about it!
If you want to do something about the latter then do what I did join THE NATIONAL VIGILANTE ORGANISATION!
The only way to bring crime under control now is to DO IT OURSELVES!
- http://www.nvo.org.uk

J. Robinson, Surrey says...
6:09pm Sun 25 Mar 07

Goverment funded searchlight and it's thug facist friends have no place in democratically held elections, why are they allowed to continue using such tactics specifically against the BNP to undermine the whole electoral process ?








Steven, Fresno, CA says...
7:12pm Sun 25 Mar 07

I'm an American, so maybe I don't really understand (no doubt the libs will call me on this fact), but somehow I don't think that people who are concerned mostly about what kind of burqa they can wear or whether or not Pigglet and other "anti-Muslim" English customs are banned can REALLY understand the beauty of the English culture (which will be replaced by Pakistani/Muslim culture in a short while thanks to you liberal/tolerant bastards).

Though I'm American, I wish I was a British citizen so that I could vote BNP. Remember - it's BRITAIN, NOT PAKISTAN!!!

Peter Marshall, says...
7:18pm Sun 25 Mar 07

Thank god that at last a party like the BNP tell it as it is, I have voted labour all my life, but after watching my country turning into a multicultural shambles no more, roll on 3rd May if you love your country vote BNP , you know it makes sence.

ady, yorkshire says...
8:51pm Sun 25 Mar 07

Carl wrote:
I do hope the Searchlight gang keep recruiting for the BNP. People don't like being told who they can't vote for, and the support thus generated for the BNP is excellent. Keep it up you commie dimbos :-)
Yes, it always raises a smile, when these lollipop waving, badge wearing pseudo sociology lecturers come knocking at my door, telling me who, and who I should not be voting for. I would have more respect for their opinions, if any of them look as if they had ever done a hard days work in their life, or were actually taking part in the election.

St George, England says...
9:12pm Sun 25 Mar 07

Gazooks, the Leftist Liberal elite fliberty-gibbets seem to have fled the scene, maybe they couldn't stand the heat of the majority.

Vote BNP, says...
12:00am Mon 26 Mar 07

their aint no black in the union jack so send those pakis back

Sir George Uproar, Shropshire says...
12:34am Mon 26 Mar 07

Vote BNP wrote:
their aint no black in the union jack so send those pakis back
I am a BNP member and i totally reject the tone of your language. Invective like this serves no purpose my friend. I suspect that you are a ANAL / UAF plant because i don't know anyone in the BNP who would use such an abusive phrase. I have to dash, my knuckle casters need polishing.

Grin.

Lee, says...
12:39am Mon 26 Mar 07

Yes, please note the above Vote BNP wrote:
their aint no black in the union jack so send those pakis back

this is typical of the lengths the UAF thugs will go to in order to discredit the BNP, reminds me a bit of North Korea, 70s Russia etc, now what do those lot have in common?

jim burns, altrincham says...
9:38am Mon 26 Mar 07

What has happend to the Advertiser? On a visit home to see my mother I read that the BNP have tried to claim credit for the St.George's Day event. Like many others I went into their website to see for myself. Nothing, no claim whatsoever! So it would seem the Mayor, or more likely a silly anti-BNP reporter, made this story up. So the Advertise lied, is it any wonder people now take with a pinch of salt allegations and accusations against the BNP? I have never been in their website before but I was impressed, so much so that I will be voting for them in May, as will my mother. Stop lying, it makes you look silly and childish.

Lisa - BNP, says...
11:09am Mon 26 Mar 07

Vote BNP wrote:
their aint no black in the union jack so send those pakis back
The above is typical of the "antifascists".

No BNP member would say such a thing.

Do not be fooled by attempts to smear the British Natonal party.

http://www.bnp.org.uk/

Georgy Willets, Swindon says...
1:39pm Mon 26 Mar 07

"The man was black and wearing dark clothing."

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/swindonnewsheadlines/display.var.1284602.0.gunman_robs_elderly_couple_in_their_home.php

Swindons "enrichment" continues.

http://www.bnp.org.uk/

Pull the other one, Swindon says...
2:38pm Mon 26 Mar 07

Vote BNP wrote:
their aint no black in the union jack so send those pakis back
So is this the latest trick from the agent provocateurs?.. its so childish that it sums up the mental capacity of these traitors. Mind you they would have to be low IQ to fall for all that Unwashed And Flatulent stuff wouldnt they. Students? the architects of tomorrow? God help us all.

only me, swindon says...
2:48pm Mon 26 Mar 07

Georgy Willets wrote:
"The man was black and wearing dark clothing." http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/swindonnewsheadlines/display.var.1284602.0.gunman_robs_elderly_couple_in_their_home.php Swindons "enrichment" continues. http://www.bnp.org.uk/
Priceless! Well done Georgy. Discrediting the 'logic' of your argument can provide literally hours of fun. The only thing I will say is that the BNP supporters advocating clear minded debate must be banging their heads against the wall in frustration at your post.

Georgy Willets, says...
3:01pm Mon 26 Mar 07

only me wrote:
Georgy Willets wrote: \"The man was black and wearing dark clothing.\" http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/swindonnewsheadlines/display.var.1284602.0.gunman_robs_elderly_couple_in_their_home.php Swindons \"enrichment\" continues. http://www.bnp.org.uk/
Priceless! Well done Georgy. Discrediting the \'logic\' of your argument can provide literally hours of fun. The only thing I will say is that the BNP supporters advocating clear minded debate must be banging their heads against the wall in frustration at your post.
No one is frustrated at my post other than you.

The logic is clear - if you want the same vote the same.

Enjoy your 'hours of fun' discrediting the logic. But do it in your head to spare us the tedium of having to scroll past your silly remarks.

Better still, spend some time reading ->

http://www.bnp.org.uk/


Vote BNP, says...
3:43pm Mon 26 Mar 07

**** **** **** pull that trigger

Bill, wootton says...
8:25pm Mon 26 Mar 07

I must admit to being more than a little staggered. Having published what can only be regarded as a DELIBERATE LIE - the editor of the Swindon Advertiser clearly lacks the COMMON DECENCY even to print a retraction!!

Should we expect any better? YES WE SHOULD - A **** SIGHT BETTER!!!

Rosemarie, South West England says...
9:27am Tue 27 Mar 07

After reading the rudeness and lies from the loony lot at uaf/searchlight (who are not worthy of capitals!), I am even more determined to vote for the British National Party.
Most decent citizens have now ‘seen the light’ and will be voting BNP in May.
I thank the BNP supporters on this site for their intelligent arguments, which are truthful and articulate.
The BNP is the only Party that speaks the truth, and is the only hope for this country. Their website is second to none.

Englishman -, South East England says...
2:41pm Tue 27 Mar 07

Like Rosemarie, above, I too am more determined than ever to vote for the BNP after reading the disgusting lies being circulated by the people's enemies in the squalid Searchlight gang.
The whole purpose of the Searchlight gang is to peddle hatred of native Britons and deny us a voice in parliament.
If we want to vote for the British National Party that is our choice, and we will not be denied our freedom to choose by a bunch of anti-Britsih degenerate criminals.
We are on to you, Searchlight. We know what you're up to and on whose behalf, and your efforts to silence us will only have the reverse effect!

Clive, says...
2:44pm Tue 27 Mar 07

It looks like the Advertiser has attempted to deceive what's left of it's readership.
Shame on you!

Ironside, Swindon says...
6:20pm Tue 27 Mar 07

Still not seen anything in the Adver relating to this lie and certainly haven't seen anything that considered an apology for this lie.

I do hope that people have sent emails/letters to the editor.

They should be forced to apologise for lying to the people of Swindon.

Barnsley, Nationalist says...
9:28pm Tue 27 Mar 07

This Country is not ours to let some do with it what they wish.
We hold it in trust for those that are to follow.

3rd May – BNP Day

JOHN, West Yorkshire says...
6:53am Wed 28 Mar 07

This quote could have been written for the Advertiser -- Truth is too precious to share with any fool.

Louis Hale, West Midlands says...
4:44pm Thu 29 Mar 07

The idiots who call us Nazi scum should get a life. They must walk round with their eyes closed. How thick must you be to welcome the replacement of your own people? The BNP is not racist. We believe that all races have a right to live and prosper in their homeland. Racism means 'hating someone because of their race or colour'. We don't hate anyone on these grounds. We hate the politicians who have forced mass immigration upon us without any consultation whatsoever. Wouldn't it be boring if everyone one was coffee coloured? That's what will happen eventually if this madness continues!

Ironside, Swindon says...
12:53pm Fri 30 Mar 07

STILL NOT SEEN ANY RETRACTION, CORRECTION OR APOPOLOGY FROM THE ADVER.

Sort it out you lying scum.

Albert Hurwood, says...
2:58pm Thu 5 Apr 07

This person "Andy" knows perfectly well that THE NATIONAL VIGILANTE ORGANISATION has no connection whatever with the BNP!
I will remind him and this paper about the laws of LIBEL!
If these deliberate lies about us are repeated then we WILL take legal action!
If anyone visits the NAVIGOR website they will see that we do not even MENTION the BNP!
We are concerned, like many others, with our out of control crime culture, but unlike people like "Andy" we believe in doing something about it!

ben, says...
5:35pm Thu 5 Apr 07

andy what do you mean about the bnp i went to the site you msaid and cant see the bnp plese explain

Andy, Bury says...
12:03pm Fri 6 Apr 07

Ben, of course the site doesn't mention the BNP. But dear old Albert Hurwood, Navigor's main man is a BNP supporter. Aren't you Albert old man?

Here's some stuff Alert posted on the Swindon Advertiser:

"Voice of Sense (lol) the choice is NOT between Labour and the BNP - the choice is between slavery and freedom - slavery or the BNP !"


----------------------


"No I don't come from Swindon - I come from Corby - perhaps you remember Corby?

It was a place slammed by New Labour for being "too white and too British"!

And because of that 70 jobs are being moved to Leicestershire where they are certainly NOT too white!

LET's hope that Swindon is awash with ethnic majorities or your job prospects are zilch! "

Nice guy Albert.

But besides, vigilantism has no place in modern society. They just want to stir up trouble, to agitate. They are in no position to dish out summary justice; if I were a paediatrician and these folks were running loose, I'd be scared, if you get my drift.




Albert Hurwood, says...
3:05pm Fri 6 Apr 07

Well Andy, you ARE a busy little bee aren't you ?

Popping up here, popping up there.

When are you going to tell us the REAL truth about YOUR motives for attacking THE NATIONAL VIGILANTE ORGANISATION ?

LET ME TRY TO MAKE A GUESS.

The BNP are making a great deal of inroads everywhere and various councillors and New Labour are panic stricken.

New Labour in particular know that they have lost the next general election and will do anything to try and stave off that defeat.

If the BNP do well at the May council elections then New Labour are totally finished and they know it.

By attacking THE NATIONAL VIGILANTE ORGANISATION and trying to establish a link to the BNP then they can try to say, as they are doing, that we are a bunch of "thugs" and "crackpots."

So, they can THEN say, as they are doing, that because we are a "front" for the BNP then the BNP are ALSO a bunch of "thugs" and "crackpots" !

Yes I know, to do THAT you have to be REALLY twisted and desperate !

But everyone who has joined us know the REAL truth about Navigor.

Because, like everyone in Navigor, they want to live a life free from fear !

So, have no worry about those people, they are pathetic and some may even be paid agents either of New Labour or of groups associated with them.

So let them call us what they like - we have the honesty of decent people behind us and that is the one thing they can NEVER defeat !

Perhaps that is why "Andy" hates us so much !

But if YOU want to find the REAL truth about us simply go to our website.

Many people who have simply join us on the spot !

Perhaps that is what "ANDY" really hates and fears !

Andy, Bury says...
4:00pm Fri 6 Apr 07

I live free of fear Albie. Told you that already. The BNP might like to portary Britain as on the brink but afraid its not me old far Right extremist (you let that little cat out of the bag with your BNP vs slavery comments ****. Andy by the way you might want to look more deeply into the real reasons over Prison Service redployment from Corby to Leicester; access to a much more educated workforce being the prime one).

And I've also told you I'm no fan of New Labour. A "paid agent"? Don't make me laff. You and your BNP cronies are trawling the internet for crime stories so you can all post a remarkably similar message (what's up, your little band of members got no ideas of their own? Or are they illiterate?) to promote your crackpot organisation.

But I'm really no fan of the racist, facist BNP, its apologists and its front organisations.

But you are right on one thing, I am busy. I will happily devote time to exposing your little mob. Because you are the problem, not the solution.

Now why not give Nick Griffin a call and see what your next step is?

Albert Hurwood, says...
12:43am Sat 7 Apr 07

I really don't know why Andy of Bury seems so determined to equate us with the BNP, but I can assure everyone reading this that NAVIGOR - THE NATIONAL VIGILANTE ORGANISATION has no affiliation with the BNP whatever !

They are a political party with a wide range of policies - we are solely concerned with CRIME and FIGHTING IT !

I can only say to anyone reading lies about us - visit our website and make up your own minds - we don't even mention the BNP so whatever Andy's motives are the truth doesn't figure very largely in it !
I also have to wonder, why, as soon as anyone talks about standing up to thugs, idiots like Andy start screaming BNP ?

Andy, Bury says...
1:22pm Sun 8 Apr 07

Albie, As I've told you I only start screaming BNP when a man from Corbey, called Albert, proc;laims his support for the BNp, creates a crackpot vigilante organisation and then denies any BNP connection - oh and actually enies his organisation promotes vigilantism.

Call me a suspicious old fool but.....


Navigor = BNP.

C

Albert Hurwood, says...
5:12pm Sun 8 Apr 07

Why still no mention of your REAL name "ANDY"
What are you ashamed of ?

johnny, swindon, says...
12:43pm Mon 9 Apr 07

If "Andy" is the one I'm thinking of he's a PAID committed lefty who belongs to the GMB the trade union which has abandoned it's British members in favour of low paid workers from Poland and in Swindon has appealed to employers to employ immigrants in favour of British Workers !
and it certainly sounds like the rantings of Andrew Newsom who couldn't care less about the law except when it suits him !
If "ANDY" is that Andrew Newsom then I urge everyone to totally ignore his rantings!
He's totally insane when it comes to the BNP and spends all his time scouring newspapers looking for anything to link to the BNP and rant about them!
And as far as I'm aware he also is a leading agitiaor on the UAF website!

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