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Work is under way to destroy the Clare's Retail Equipment building Work is under way to destroy the Clare's Retail Equipment building

A 'STEALTH tax' on empty buildings has led to Swindon Council demolishing one of its sites at a cost to the taxpayer of £430,000 ­ and it is unlikely to be the last.

The site of the former supermarket supply firm, Clare's Retail Equipment, is to be pulled down to avoid paying £110,000 a year in business rates.

From April this year business rate relief on empty properties was cut by the Government, on the basis that it would reduce rents and increase property supply.

But, according to Swindon Council's lead member for resources, the charge is forcing the council to use taxpayers' money on pulling down buildings.

Coun Nick Martin (Con, Shaw and Nine Elms said: "We are spending public money demolishing buildings to avoid this ill-thought out stealth tax.

"We set aside £430,000 in this year's budget for the destruction of one property."

And Coun Martin refused to rule out the possibility that other buildings would go the same way.

He said: "Clares won't be the only one."

Coun Martin also refused to rule out negative effects on Swindon's regeneration plans.

He said: "Swindon, like many other towns across the country, could suffer if regeneration projects are shelved as a result of this.

"We want MPs to take note and for the Government to urgently reapply the relief on empty property."

North Swindon MP, Michael Wills said: "It is a great shame that once again this council has decided to make a serious issue into a political stunt.

"If they really cared about the future of the town centre they would have contacted me about this issue.

"After all, I was responsible for approaching the Government to set up the New Swindon Company in the first place and getting the funding for it.

"It just proves that this council are not seriously interested in the long term future of the town, just political yah-boo."

Coun Martin denied he was making a political stance on the issue and said he was responding to a request to speak by the British Property Federation.

Peter James, chief executive of The New Swindon Company, said: "This will do nothing to help the regeneration of our towns and it simply puts another burden on developers.

"Sites have been demolished to make way for massive regeneration, but charging empty rates means that developments are likely to take even longer and will see smaller businesses face an even tougher time in the current climate."

Mr Wills said: "I am surprised that Peter James should lend his name to such destructive, ill-informed game-playing."

Comments(15)

RF1 says...
12:36pm Tue 19 Aug 08

Another superb SBC own goal!
Did no one think perhaps that 430 grand could have been spent on trying to encourage someone to move in and use the building and thereby generate some income?

Malkym says...
12:46pm Tue 19 Aug 08

Agreed RF1, but ..err ..can anybody tell me what the NSC have achieved since they've been in existence? Apart from taking up office space on a couple of floors in central Swindon that is.

ItsPavAgain says...
12:47pm Tue 19 Aug 08

"North Swindon MP, Michael Wills said:
"After all, I was responsible for approaching the Government to set up the New Swindon Company in the first place and getting the funding for it."

So Wills is admitting responsibility for the white elephant that is the New Swindon Company?

RF1 says...
12:51pm Tue 19 Aug 08

Well, the NSC have created a lot of nice wide open spaces in the town centre.....for those that like that sort of thing!

ItsPavAgain says...
12:54pm Tue 19 Aug 08

RF1 wrote:
Another superb SBC own goal!Did no one think perhaps that 430 grand could have been spent on trying to encourage someone to move in and use the building and thereby generate some income?
If only it was that cut and dried RF1.

Have you read the reports of commerical property company Brixton's £236.7m loss, or their chief executives assessment of an "apocalyptic outlook" for the commercial property sector?

It's not just SBC who is finding it hard to rent out commercial porperty at this time.

And as ever, the government appear to be doing their best to make the situation worse.

yingtong says...
12:59pm Tue 19 Aug 08

presumably the council was aware of this tax,so perhapes, they have to much money in the coffers and we will all get a council tax reduction next year?

genisis300 says...
2:02pm Tue 19 Aug 08

i wonder how much the tax would have been for that building for the year,

genisis300 says...
2:05pm Tue 19 Aug 08

genisis300 wrote:
i wonder how much the tax would have been for that building for the year,
wish i had read that a bit better,
What i don't understand is that it would have cost £110k for a year or £430K how is that cheaper, The site will have to be redeveloped before it can be re-used costing more money,

nuddy2 says...
2:13pm Tue 19 Aug 08

RF1, SBC would certainly have looked to rent this property out again, but if you look at the building itself who at this present moment in time, who would really want to rent it out? It’s a massive building, covering some 6 acres and was built nearly 80 years ago to paint and repair railway coaches.

£430k sounds like a lot of money, but with the tax on the empty building coming in at
£110k per annum and the chances of renting the building again virtually zero, from where I am sitting £430k to demolish it was probably the best option.

‘course, it may also have suited SBC to demolish it because isn’t this the areas that’s being looked at as a university site?

From an historical point of view, it’s a shame that this building is being demolished, as it was the last major rolling stock repair shop (no.24) to be built by the GWR and was the only building from the vast carriage and wagon works that was not demolished when it closed down in the 1960’s.

No idea why Wills is waffling on about SBC making this political, after all the fact is, it is his Government that's introduced the tax, not Swindon Council.

Big Mac says...
3:17pm Tue 19 Aug 08


North Swindon MP, Michael Wills said: "After all, I was responsible for approaching the Government to set up the New Swindon Company in the first place and getting the funding for it.


This must be a first, a Labour MP openly admitting to such a disastrous mistake.

It's all becoming clearer now. I had wondered why the Council now had to ask the New Swindon Company for permission to actually do anything around the town - Wills obviously parachuted them in so that Labour maintain control of a town where the electorate has clearly said they want nothing to do with Labour and their failed policies.

And how interesting that both Swindon Council AND their new overlords, the New Swindon Company BOTH squarely blame Labour's stealth tax policies for this latest debacle.

Hmm, a Labour MP pretending they haven't introduced a new stealth tax... hands up anyone who believes him?

Still, barely another 18 months to go and then you, along with your partner in crime Snelgrove, are well and truly history Mr Wills.

Bobfm says...
5:33pm Tue 19 Aug 08

Can I just put the record straight here, as I did at yesterdays press conference over this issue. It was me who contacted the BPF and arranged this press conference, not the Conservative group. I contacted the Conservative group and spoke with Nick Martin, who put me in touch with the Councils property Director and I was provided with the figures shown which formed part of a press release, which contained Peter James's statement that frankly I was amazed at given a previous email from him which was to say the least hostile. Michael Wills as I understand it as is Labours ways short from the hip not having a clue how the whole issue came about. He is totally wrong in his accusations, and allegations against the Council. They merely told the truth as it is, and which is repeated across the UK. As for NSC they do not admit that the properties have been pulled down to save money, but given the nature and location of the sites purchased with HMG money they would be liable for several million in rates under Labours ridiculous scheme.

What the article doesn't say is that Labour did build in an escape clause when enacting the legislation, which took account of any down turn in the economy. The act was finalised in 2007 and only became active in April 2008. It is the view of the BPF and frankly would be the view of anyone with half a brain, that to actually bring into force this legislation when it was clear, post Northern Rock, that Britain was in the 'sh*t and this would just make things was frankly stupid and as Minister for Business, is Wills still that or does he have another job, he should have advised his buddy Brown, what a disaster this move was.

I would suggest anyone wanting to read a full account of yesterdays press conference, with the inane rant of the Labour councillor you should visit TalkSwindon.org, it should be up shortly

I Too says...
9:13pm Tue 19 Aug 08

Wasn't the Clares site was once earmarked for a University, before Mike Boredom's bit of brokering to destroy the nature reserve at Coate?

If it had been used as part of a university, it wouldn't have been demolished with our council tax

Justin Tomlinson says...
9:51am Wed 20 Aug 08

I don't understand why Michael Wills has got so prickly over this? I can't see any political swipes etc? In the article Nick has just set out what is happening, there is nothing stopping Michael taking this up with his Government?

As an elected member Nick has the right to raise and respond to issues, especially as he is the Lead Member on Finance.

Bob did well to raise this issue - we all want Council Tax money to be used effectively, lets hope this prompts some action from the Government.

Bobfm says...
11:14am Wed 20 Aug 08

As I think in vain tried to point out to the Labour councillor this was in no way a politically motivated attack on the Government by anyone least of all the Tory group, but he seemed totally unable to grasp that. He even kept ranting on when we went to the Clares site. My motives were simple, to highlight how Government policy is creating, in a sense a mis-use of public money.

Bobfm says...
7:07am Thu 21 Aug 08

It seems that at least one developer agrees with the BPF assessment. From the Mail.

It seems now that major developers are speaking out, this from the Mail.

The ballad - famously covered by Jimi Hendrix - sums up the credit crunch when it says: 'There must be some kind of way out of here / Said the joker to the thief / There's too much confusion / I can't get no relief.'

Gateshead-born Mr Wheeler - a self-confessed Dylan fan - compares equity-based opportunist buyers to 'thieves' and owners who will not sell to 'jokers'.

In prosaic terms, the company has suffered under a new tax on empty buildings and the fall in value of its rental portfolio.

Net assets are down 26 per cent to £1.16bn while its share price dropped by more than 9 per cent to 224.75p at the end of trading.

'There is confusion - and an element of denial - over direct property pricing due to lack of transactions,' Mr Wheeler declared.

He added: 'The apocalyptic opening lines of Bob Dylan's All Along The Watchtower seem to capture the beleaguered mindset of the UK commercial real estate market.'

Mr Wheeler's company has also found itself with a growing number of empty properties with a rise from 15.4 per cent in December to a total of 18.7 per cent in June.

'It's our job to tell it like it is,' Mr Wheeler said.

'It's wrong for any business to just hope the economic problems will go away. It's an uncomfortable message, but it's honest and fair.'

However, Mr Wheeler did hold out some hope for a better future and said that Brixton could hold back the economic downturn by not starting any new developments. (It seems the BPF have it spot on)

Instead the developers could keep a look-out for distressed properties when price hit rock-bottom - it is only when these properties come onto the market that there may be a way out of the current situation.

'We are here with the cash to take advantage of those opportunities,' said the chief executive.

The retail market accounts for only 20 per cent of Brixton's portfolio, so even though Mr Wheeler explains that there is no way of telling when the property market will improve, his company should be able avoid any major problems.

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