‘No’ to islamic faith school proposal (From Swindon Advertiser)

Good. Common sense prevails.

This is England, our monarch is the head of the church of england.

The right decision has been made!

It wasn't a fair test. The Muslim application was so obviously ill thought out and did not even remotely consider the needs of local residents! Phew!

Nothing wrong with a Muslim school. Just build it in Broad Town. The proposal would have failed on traffic problems alone.

Put a local school where the local need is.

Grace Bee wrote:
This is England, our monarch is the head of the church of england.

And your point is.....?

Our monarch is German (House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha before a PC name change). Their heirs are half Greek ;o)

The Queen was born in England and has lived in England all her life. Therefore she is English in the same way a a person of Asian origin is English if they have done likewise.

Anyway, great news that the Islamic school has been binned. No place for that type of thing here thank you.

The right decision for the children of Oakhurst.

However am I alone in thinking the BBC report of this story (on teletext and at bbc.co.uk/wiltshire) suggests the Al Habib bid was successful? Their coverage has been very one sided throughout, it almost seems wishful thinking by them.

Anyway, 2 years of battling to get our school seems to be over.

PS PeeGee - agree with your comments.

I would love to hear a fuller explaination for this remark!

“Politically the opposing community missed the main concept of the school so there was a lot of resistance.
We are not giving up, as there is a need for this type of school.”

Given that much of the opposition came from other Muslims, who are the 'Opposing community!"

I would love to hear a fuller explaination for this remark!

“Politically the opposing community missed the main concept of the school so there was a lot of resistance.
We are not giving up, as there is a need for this type of school.”

Given that much of the opposition came from other Muslims, who are the 'Opposing community!"

Lars wrote:
The Queen was born in England and has lived in England all her life. Therefore she is English in the same way a a person of Asian origin is English if they have done likewise. Anyway, great news that the Islamic school has been binned. No place for that type of thing here thank you.

Not strictly true. She has four official residences. One is in Scotland. Therefore, officially, only 75 per cent of her time has been spent in England as the ruling Monarch.

However, I am happy to admit that the Queen is English of German origin (to use your logic). However, there was a long running sketch on TV show "Goodness Gracious Me" where asians changed their names to sound more British. Apparently, it is funny when this happens.

So, it's HM Queen Elizabeth Alexandra (after her Danish great-grandmother) Mary (after her German Grandmother) Saxe-Coburg-Gotha... er, I mean Windsor.... and Prince Philipos of Greece and Denmark (that's his birth name)... er, sorry Prince Philip Duke Of Edinburgh (yeah right).

Also, just a point of interest, There are 2.8 million Christians in Pakistan (compared to the 1.6 million Muslims in the UK). These Christians are mostly educated in Christian Schools. Using your logic, should these schools not exist? Afterall, there must be "no place for that type of thing" there as well.

As the Queen is the head of the Church of England (because some fat king wanted to bonk his wife's lady in waiting to get a male heir) should Catholic schools be banned?

Here's a novel idea. Why not build a Muslim School on some of the wasteland created around Fleming Way. Afterall, it doesn't look like it will be used for anything else for years. It could also be privately funded (as are a lot of Muslim schools) instead of hijacking the first LEA community school which happens to come along.

So who exactly is right here? The BBC have reported it as approved:

http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/england/wilts
hire/7876555.stm

What on earth has an unelected monarch got to do with anything?

Now is the time that we start abolishing ALL state schools no matter what flavour of fairy-tale they believe in

PeeGee wrote:

Grace Bee wrote:
This is England, our monarch is the head of the church of england.

And your point is.....?

Our monarch is German (House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha before a PC name change). Their heirs are half Greek ;o)

And the Church of England was invented by Henry VIII because the pope wouldn't give him yet another divorce.

All organised religion is about controlling the masses, and religoius schools are about indoctrinating the children. It's time they were all banned.

Why do we need faith schools?

Schools should stick to education and leave the churches, mosques, sikh temples etc to teach about religion.

Re my earlier post - the BBC have updated their story, which is fair enough; that's me done on this subject. We can now look forward to the school buildings going up.

It is absurd to say that institutional racism is dead. It is still alive in the form of Islamophobia. . One of the deepest expressions of institutional racism affecting immigrant communities, and one that has been long documented is the unequal treatment of their children by the education system. They are motivated, but knocked back by their experiences of the school system. They are often treated more harshly and viewed with lower teacher expectation on the basis of teachers’ assumptions about their motivation and ability.

LAs are failing in their duty to combat racism in schools, according to OFSTED, Education system exhibits “aspects of racism”. A quarter of authorities are not doing enough to promote equal educational opportunities. A Brighton University study found that the Britain education system is institutionally racist, with pupils and teachers vulnerable to abuse by peers, teachers and management. I discovered the element of racism in early 70s. National Curriculum does not reflect cultural diversity and minority pupils are being held back by native teachers.

London Borough of Newham was judged by OFSTED as unsatisfactory in tackling racism. There are big issues about racism in schools needed to be tackled but could not understand that Bilingual Muslim pupils need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. It is a crime against humanity to deprive a child of his mother tongue but in the name of integration every thing is fair. Independent schools are also racist in nature. The parents of a Pakistani boy who was racially abused by his classmates and teachers are suing St. Christopher School.

Education report by Birmingham Advisory Service recommends that school lessons should take into account cultural differences in order to improve pupils’ performance. It calls for teaching “the need for mutual respect and understanding”. Minority pupils are underachieving at school because the curriculum is racist. The study found lessons often failed to motivate or interest pupils because curriculum did not provide enough positive role models. The curriculum needs to be more balanced and less Eurocentric. Pupils grow up thinking there is no other playwright than Shakespeare. An ethnicity “Tsar” should be appointed to reform British schooling. Muslim schools performed best overall, although they constitute only a fraction of the country’s 7000 schools. Muslim schools do well because of their Islamic ethos and a focus on traditional discipline and teaching methods. They teach children what is right and what is wrong, because young children need structural guidance. Muslim school is responsible for the development of the whole child. Muslim schools give Muslim children “pride, identity and a sense of culture and languages.
Iftikhar Ahmad

Iftikhar wrote:

It is absurd to say that institutional racism is dead. It is still alive in the form of Islamophobia. . One of the deepest expressions of institutional racism affecting immigrant communities, and one that has been long documented is the unequal treatment of their children by the education system. They are motivated, but knocked back by their experiences of the school system. They are often treated more harshly and viewed with lower teacher expectation on the basis of teachers’ assumptions about their motivation and ability.

LAs are failing in their duty to combat racism in schools, according to OFSTED, Education system exhibits “aspects of racism”. A quarter of authorities are not doing enough to promote equal educational opportunities. A Brighton University study found that the Britain education system is institutionally racist, with pupils and teachers vulnerable to abuse by peers, teachers and management. I discovered the element of racism in early 70s. National Curriculum does not reflect cultural diversity and minority pupils are being held back by native teachers.

London Borough of Newham was judged by OFSTED as unsatisfactory in tackling racism. There are big issues about racism in schools needed to be tackled but could not understand that Bilingual Muslim pupils need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. It is a crime against humanity to deprive a child of his mother tongue but in the name of integration every thing is fair. Independent schools are also racist in nature. The parents of a Pakistani boy who was racially abused by his classmates and teachers are suing St. Christopher School.

Education report by Birmingham Advisory Service recommends that school lessons should take into account cultural differences in order to improve pupils’ performance. It calls for teaching “the need for mutual respect and understanding”. Minority pupils are underachieving at school because the curriculum is racist. The study found lessons often failed to motivate or interest pupils because curriculum did not provide enough positive role models. The curriculum needs to be more balanced and less Eurocentric. Pupils grow up thinking there is no other playwright than Shakespeare. An ethnicity “Tsar” should be appointed to reform British schooling. Muslim schools performed best overall, although they constitute only a fraction of the country’s 7000 schools. Muslim schools do well because of their Islamic ethos and a focus on traditional discipline and teaching methods. They teach children what is right and what is wrong, because young children need structural guidance. Muslim school is responsible for the development of the whole child. Muslim schools give Muslim children “pride, identity and a sense of culture and languages.
Iftikhar Ahmad

And if you don't like, go and live in an Islamic country!
This is England you're living in - remember that!