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9:00am Tuesday 17th February 2009 in
SWINDON’S BMW employees are resisting a move to Oxford despite being offered £6,500 each to make the 33-mile drive every morning.
So far only four employees at Swindon’s Mini plant in Stratton have accepted the deal, even though BMW have been trying to tempt 150 employees to move eastward for almost a month.
Those being asked to move are from the press shop, which works with car panels, and the sub assembly department.
John McGookin, regional organiser for Unite, said the union was against any changes to the current deal and said that if BMW had extra work the firm should send it to Swindon.
He said workers could claim up to £6,500 in travel expenses over a two-year period depending on how far they have to travel.
He said that if 150 employees do eventually leave, Swindon staff numbers will have dropped 72 per cent from 3,000 to 850 in five years.
Mr McGookin said: “The changes are to occur in the sub-assembly section, but only four people have taken the deal so far over the past week. We are resisting the change from Swindon to Oxford. If they want to ship us around then they should be prepared to bus staff during company hours, otherwise they can bring the work here.
“We are a flexible staff and a viable option for work to be ushered in. In terms of the cuts in Oxford, let’s just say this, when they sneeze we get a cold.”
A 39-year-old sub-assembly worker who lives in North Swindon said staff feared BMW would eventually close the plant.
He said: “No-one wants to move to Oxford. The deal is simply not good enough, so people aren’t likely to take it, until they do better.
“We are a loyal staff and should not be threatened with plant closure. I think associates on the shop floor in general are fed up with the way they are being treated by BMW. It is not a happy place at the moment.
“All the other car companies have been honest but we feel as though we are being strung along. We are happy to still have jobs, don’t get me wrong, but there are ways to deal with employees.”
Rebecca Baxter, a spokeswoman for Mini, said the redeployment scheme would see transferred staff paid £1,500 upfront and further petrol funding depending on how far each employee would be driving to get to the Oxford Mini plant. She denied the £6,500 figure.
She said: “We have been asking workers to take this option. There is no set date for them to move and no current plans for redundancies.“ Ms Baxter added that at the end of March the new Mini convertible would be hitting the market, but could not confirm how many workers had taken up the transfer offer.
The job cuts come off the back of a slump in Mini sales with he company seeing a fall in sales of 35 per cent since January 2008.
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Osho
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9:35am Tue 17 Feb 09
beakeryoumuppet
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9:36am Tue 17 Feb 09
Loveall
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9:59am Tue 17 Feb 09
The Librarian says Oook
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10:18am Tue 17 Feb 09
ODDSOCKS1
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10:18am Tue 17 Feb 09
EastleazeRed
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10:59am Tue 17 Feb 09
beakeryoumuppet wrote:I have never heard such utter crap in all my life. You can’t just sack people because they won’t travel 35 miles to work, were not talking about travelling across Swindon here. I did this trip on earlies and lates, and as ODDSOCKS1 so perfectly put it 6.30 a.m. start on earlies, 5.30 on stand up, so you have to get up at 4.00 a.m. travel 35 miles, work until 4.00 p.m. maybe 5.00 p.m. on stand up, drive another 35 miles home on one of the worst roads in the south of England, and get home around 6.30 p.m. On lates it’s even worse, with stand up you don’t get home till nearly 4.00 a.m. The only reason I knew I was near home was because my car hit the roundabout at Farringdon on a number of occasions because I couldn’t keep my eyes open. And all of this on a reduced wage.2 months was bad enough, let alone 2 years.
what about sacking the 146 that wont relocate and re-employing 146 temps from oxford clearly staff are not thinking about there long term futures, two years is a short period and as long as the travelling expenses are covered surely its better to have a job even in oxford than no job at all
Osho
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11:35am Tue 17 Feb 09
madred
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11:50am Tue 17 Feb 09
Osho wrote:life sucks.....if you dont like the travelling etc....then move to oxford or find a job in swindon....simple!!
Poor poor people. I pay for my own car, drive from Swindon to Oxford every day, work extra hours without extra pay (when required),... but of course I don't work for a car maufacturer, I'm just a normal person doing a normal office job, so I can't get any sympathy - get real - hundreds of people commute, work long hours - that's life - like to see these people down a pit !
ODDSOCKS1
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12:03pm Tue 17 Feb 09
Osho wrote:Working normal office hours.Not getting up in the middle of the night.Not then on your feet all day in a Factory environment.And you made the choice as up to recently there was plenty of office work in Swindon.
Poor poor people. I pay for my own car, drive from Swindon to Oxford every day, work extra hours without extra pay (when required),... but of course I don't work for a car maufacturer, I'm just a normal person doing a normal office job, so I can't get any sympathy - get real - hundreds of people commute, work long hours - that's life - like to see these people down a pit !
Osho
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12:22pm Tue 17 Feb 09
madred wrote:You've just confirmed what I was saying - silly ! That commuting is part of modern life and I enjoy driving anyway !.... perhaps I can enjoy it more if I snap up a cheap new Mini !
Osho wrote: Poor poor people. I pay for my own car, drive from Swindon to Oxford every day, work extra hours without extra pay (when required),... but of course I don't work for a car maufacturer, I'm just a normal person doing a normal office job, so I can't get any sympathy - get real - hundreds of people commute, work long hours - that's life - like to see these people down a pit !life sucks.....if you dont like the travelling etc....then move to oxford or find a job in swindon....simple!!
EastleazeRed
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12:34pm Tue 17 Feb 09
Osho wrote:No Chance of that ! You can buy 2 new small cars for the price of a mini.
madred wrote:You've just confirmed what I was saying - silly ! That commuting is part of modern life and I enjoy driving anyway !.... perhaps I can enjoy it more if I snap up a cheap new Mini !Osho wrote: Poor poor people. I pay for my own car, drive from Swindon to Oxford every day, work extra hours without extra pay (when required),... but of course I don't work for a car maufacturer, I'm just a normal person doing a normal office job, so I can't get any sympathy - get real - hundreds of people commute, work long hours - that's life - like to see these people down a pit !life sucks.....if you dont like the travelling etc....then move to oxford or find a job in swindon....simple!!
thistakesthebiscuit
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12:47pm Tue 17 Feb 09
TKD4ever
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12:48pm Tue 17 Feb 09
EastleazeRed wrote:Actually you can sack them for not travelling 35 miles to work. The law is that a company can relocate up to 40 miles and the staff have to travel to and from work, without being offered any extra payments, expenses, etc.
beakeryoumuppet wrote: what about sacking the 146 that wont relocate and re-employing 146 temps from oxford clearly staff are not thinking about there long term futures, two years is a short period and as long as the travelling expenses are covered surely its better to have a job even in oxford than no job at allI have never heard such utter crap in all my life. You can’t just sack people because they won’t travel 35 miles to work, were not talking about travelling across Swindon here. I did this trip on earlies and lates, and as ODDSOCKS1 so perfectly put it 6.30 a.m. start on earlies, 5.30 on stand up, so you have to get up at 4.00 a.m. travel 35 miles, work until 4.00 p.m. maybe 5.00 p.m. on stand up, drive another 35 miles home on one of the worst roads in the south of England, and get home around 6.30 p.m. On lates it’s even worse, with stand up you don’t get home till nearly 4.00 a.m. The only reason I knew I was near home was because my car hit the roundabout at Farringdon on a number of occasions because I couldn’t keep my eyes open. And all of this on a reduced wage.2 months was bad enough, let alone 2 years.
beakeryoumuppet
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12:55pm Tue 17 Feb 09
EastleazeRed wrote:Hardly
beakeryoumuppet wrote: what about sacking the 146 that wont relocate and re-employing 146 temps from oxford clearly staff are not thinking about there long term futures, two years is a short period and as long as the travelling expenses are covered surely its better to have a job even in oxford than no job at allI have never heard such utter crap in all my life. You can’t just sack people because they won’t travel 35 miles to work, were not talking about travelling across Swindon here. I did this trip on earlies and lates, and as ODDSOCKS1 so perfectly put it 6.30 a.m. start on earlies, 5.30 on stand up, so you have to get up at 4.00 a.m. travel 35 miles, work until 4.00 p.m. maybe 5.00 p.m. on stand up, drive another 35 miles home on one of the worst roads in the south of England, and get home around 6.30 p.m. On lates it’s even worse, with stand up you don’t get home till nearly 4.00 a.m. The only reason I knew I was near home was because my car hit the roundabout at Farringdon on a number of occasions because I couldn’t keep my eyes open. And all of this on a reduced wage.2 months was bad enough, let alone 2 years.
ODDSOCKS1
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1:15pm Tue 17 Feb 09
Ian13
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1:30pm Tue 17 Feb 09
EastleazeRed
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1:46pm Tue 17 Feb 09
Always Grumpy
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2:17pm Tue 17 Feb 09
Tonyblairisthedevil
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4:08pm Tue 17 Feb 09
Support_British_Manufacturing
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4:12pm Tue 17 Feb 09
ODDSOCKS1
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4:54pm Tue 17 Feb 09
Tonyblairisthedevil wrote:£1.500 Is What the Oxford worker's got to sell part of their contract.The Swindon Workers will go on to the Oxford contract which is worse than the Swindon one.The petrol money £5000 is paid Monthly over 2 years that is it.It is a permanent job not a 2 year job.It is all taxable.
£6500 over two years to travel 35 miles, and people are actually moaning.. Lol no wonder this country sucks so much when people cannot be arsed to do that. Try car sharing. i used to work in Farnborough and shared the journey with 3 other people. I got nothing extra for it
Loveall
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5:05pm Tue 17 Feb 09
Support_British_Manufacturing
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5:21pm Tue 17 Feb 09
Loveall wrote:All automotive manufacturers use temporary labour not just BMW/MINI. Correct, they do employ them via the agency so they have no financial obligations but the agency employees do know this. It makes sound financial sense to do this. I don't like to see anyone loose their job but the terms and conditions were not hidden from these employees. Perhaps the agency should give them financial support as they are their real employer and have been happily taking BMW money for the last few years.
A job that last for years can not be classed as temporary. The only reason BMW used the 'temporary' workers is so that they can let them go with out any financial obligations. And the unions let this happen.
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The Artist formally known as Grumpy Old Man
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