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So, where is everybody in Wichelstowe?


THE first and so far only family in Wichelstowe say: “Come and join us.”

The Boulton family have just moved in to Swindon’s newest neighbourhood.

Although the credit crunch has put back the Wichelstowe building schedule for a year and the development of the area attracted controversy – the new arrivals are delighted with their new home and looking forward to welcoming neighbours as they arrive.

Mum Alison Boulton, 46, who is to be ordained as a Baptist minister in July, is working with her own and other local churches, together with other organisations including Swindon Council and Sovereign Housing, to begin building a thriving, friendly neighbourhood.

She said: “Wichelstowe has had some negative publicity, but there are a whole lot of people who feel that this will be a really positive community and a really great place to live.

“Being in right at the beginning is a great way to become part of a new community.

“When a community is just starting, it’s easier to make friends and get to know people.

“We can begin to see what are the ways in which we’d like to have the community develop.

“For example, what community groups should there be?”

Alison, a former drama teacher, is married to IT consultant Neil, 47, and the couple have three children. Josh is 19, Lydia 17 and Harriet 13. Family friend Victoria Tovar also lives in the new home.

The younger family members are highly impressed with the house. Lydia said: “It’s good here – and I have a double bedroom with an en suite!”

The house, sold by Bryant Homes, is a four-bedroomed model called a Fairfield.

Alison added: “I feel very excited to be here at the beginning.

“When we were thinking about coming here, and praying, we got a sense that we’d be here at the beginning.

“When I spoke with the West of England Baptist Association, I learned that they were looking for somebody to be based in Wichelstowe as a community and social leader, holistically meeting the spiritual and practical needs of new residents.

“It’s an exciting new phase in our lives, as we will not only be involved in building a community from scratch but also enjoying our first new home ever as a family.”

Previously, the family had lived in Walcot Road, Old Walcot, for 14 years.

They are full of praise for the quality of their house, the view and the help they have received from Bryant Homes, especially site manager Justin Taylor.

And her message to people considering becoming fellow Wichelstowe pioneers?

“Come and help us found this community.”


Your Say YourSwindon

Big-Brother, Broome Manor says...
9:08am Fri 22 May 09

...and bring your wellys incase it floods.

Would be funny they had a family of chavs move in next door.

PaulD, Swindon says...
9:13am Fri 22 May 09

the place looks ridiculous

ToyTown style houses overlooking the M4 in a flood plain.

No wonder the only people to have moved in believe in fairies.

Al Smith, Swindon says...
9:19am Fri 22 May 09

Is this a Bryant Homes press release, produced by Bryant Homes, who are very happy to have sold one of their Bryant Homes houses to a family who like their Bryant Homes house?

Home Boy, Swindon says...
9:36am Fri 22 May 09

If I was Bryant Homes reading this I'd be very concerned about the effect that this kind of story could have on sales!

Ms Hallaballo, Wroughton says...
9:44am Fri 22 May 09

Astonished that this family used to live in Old Walcot for 14 years.
Surely every Swindon resident knows this area will flood, that the noise from the M4 is unbearable, and that countless wildlife has been destroyed to build this toy-town?

PaulD, Swindon says...
9:57am Fri 22 May 09

Ms Hallaballo wrote:
Astonished that this family used to live in Old Walcot for 14 years.
Surely every Swindon resident knows this area will flood, that the noise from the M4 is unbearable, and that countless wildlife has been destroyed to build this toy-town?
THEY WILL BUILD AN ARK WHEN THE NEXT FLOOD COMES.


Big-Brother, Broome Manor says...
10:10am Fri 22 May 09

PaulD wrote:
Ms Hallaballo wrote: Astonished that this family used to live in Old Walcot for 14 years. Surely every Swindon resident knows this area will flood, that the noise from the M4 is unbearable, and that countless wildlife has been destroyed to build this toy-town?
THEY WILL BUILD AN ARK WHEN THE NEXT FLOOD COMES.
Hahahahahahaha!

They would have had 2 of every animal but they killed them all building the estate!

sunflowerliz, Swindon says...
10:37am Fri 22 May 09

It has saddened me to read the negative comments posted about this story.
Whilst I didn't agree with the building development on this site it has now begun and there is no going back. Therefore I think it's great that efforts are being made to help build a community spirit in Wicheltstowe. In so many new developments now people move in and never speak to their neighbours and have little or no infrastructure for social interaction which doesn't help situations such as crime and feelings of safety and security.
I also feel that comments that this family believe in 'fairies' or have any connotations with 'witches' are highly offensive and ignorant. This lady is devoting her life to service of her faith and community. I acknowledge that not everybody will share her faith but that is for individuals to decide.

Common Dreads, Swindon says...
10:53am Fri 22 May 09

Good luck and every success to The Boulton family.

Whether anyone likes it or not, Wichelstowe is there and it's happened. Might as well make the best of it.

Big-Brother, Broome Manor says...
10:54am Fri 22 May 09

Chill out woman! I am saddened that you fail to have any sense of humour, especially on a Friday.

I will add though, if she thinks witchelstowe is going to be like an episode of 'Neighbours' she is very disillusioned! Titanic is probably more appropriate…

PaulD, Swindon says...
10:56am Fri 22 May 09

in fact had this story not made any mention of religion, then this article would have stood up as quite reasonable.

As soon as religion is added it turns it into a farce.

Big-Brother, Broome Manor says...
11:16am Fri 22 May 09

Actually, it would be quite handy having god on your side. When it floods he will be able to part the waters like he did with the Red Sea!

mr_fix_it, swindon says...
11:23am Fri 22 May 09

What, the houses aren't flying off the shelf to feed the massive demand for new homes in Swindon? If you were cynical, you'd almost think that these new houses aren't really required and just being built to meet government targets. Shameless advert for Bryant too... tut tut.

Swindon_AOK, Swindon says...
11:52am Fri 22 May 09

I had a look around a few days ago, just drove up and walked around the site.

A lot of then houses have 'Sold' signs on them no quite what the point of the article is I don't know.

However, quite why you'd want to live there is another matter.

The noise from the M4 was unbearable, my partner immediately said there was no way on earth she could live there!

Plus the sizes of the rooms in these houses is TINY! Not only that but the gardens are non-existant, even worse than Abbey Meads.

Who would want to live in a building site for years which has no amenities and no prospect of getting any for at least 2-3 years.

Not me at any price. However if you buy one of these rabbit hutches then Good Luck - IMO you're going to need it!

Security Word - down-sell (hahaha)

notcross, Highworth says...
11:59am Fri 22 May 09

Well Wichelstowe is well and truly on the map! I've lived in Oakhurst for a while and the two things that made me want to move was the claustrophobic housing and the lack of community spirit. Personally I think if Wichelstowe is going to succeed then having someone building community from day one is a God-send! From what I've heard there are already lots of people set to move in. A flood plane you say - well thank goodness the engineers had the foresight to put in proper drainage!

pjohnson0410, Swindon says...
12:03pm Fri 22 May 09

mr_fix_it wrote:
What, the houses aren't flying off the shelf to feed the massive demand for new homes in Swindon? If you were cynical, you'd almost think that these new houses aren't really required and just being built to meet government targets. Shameless advert for Bryant too... tut tut.
The sold signs are probably because a "social Housing group" has bought them?? Already mentioned was Sovereign Housing, so maybe they are moving more people in from Walcot?? Most of that currnet build would have been sold to them, as it's a certain sale for Bryant's.

Big-Brother, Broome Manor says...
12:07pm Fri 22 May 09

"A flood plane you say - well thank goodness the engineers had the foresight to put in proper drainage!"

A floodplain is designed to hold water, it is where water goes when there is nowhere else for it to go.

I believe the only thing you will find that 'holds no water' is your statement.

LOL

Dommo, Swindon says...
12:12pm Fri 22 May 09

Big-Brother wrote:
Chill out woman! I am saddened that you fail to have any sense of humour, especially on a Friday. I will add though, if she thinks witchelstowe is going to be like an episode of 'Neighbours' she is very disillusioned! Titanic is probably more appropriate…
Yet to read anything funny?!

Who cares what her beliefs are, and to that end, why should anyone on here ridicule them?

Good luck to her, congratulations on the new home and good luck in building a community spirit. It's so lacking these days.

Old Town, Old Town, Swindon says...
12:18pm Fri 22 May 09

Unfortunately living where I do I now have to look over the eyesore that is Wichelstowe....Actua
lly the FRONT GARDEN !

I bet those families cannot wait to move in - noisy motorway, no shops, no schools, in fact nothing but a few odd looking houses....

Hmmm - sounds so appealing - and now a pilgrim to boot :-)

mr_fix_it, swindon says...
12:27pm Fri 22 May 09

pjohnson0410 wrote:
mr_fix_it wrote:
What, the houses aren't flying off the shelf to feed the massive demand for new homes in Swindon? If you were cynical, you'd almost think that these new houses aren't really required and just being built to meet government targets. Shameless advert for Bryant too... tut tut.
The sold signs are probably because a "social Housing group" has bought them?? Already mentioned was Sovereign Housing, so maybe they are moving more people in from Walcot?? Most of that currnet build would have been sold to them, as it's a certain sale for Bryant's.
I'm always dubious about the number of sold signs in new developments. Developers love to put them up to show that the houses are selling fast. One of the oldest tricks in the book based on the scarcity principle.

Big-Brother, Broome Manor says...
12:31pm Fri 22 May 09

Dommo wrote:
Big-Brother wrote: Chill out woman! I am saddened that you fail to have any sense of humour, especially on a Friday. I will add though, if she thinks witchelstowe is going to be like an episode of 'Neighbours' she is very disillusioned! Titanic is probably more appropriate…
Yet to read anything funny?! Who cares what her beliefs are, and to that end, why should anyone on here ridicule them? Good luck to her, congratulations on the new home and good luck in building a community spirit. It's so lacking these days.
Oh dear, the god-squad have had their feathers ruffled!

My prayers were not answered when they built that carbuncle.

It looks like the set to Noddy and Big Ears new movie!

Home Boy, Swindon says...
1:01pm Fri 22 May 09

Big-Brother wrote:
"A flood plane you say - well thank goodness the engineers had the foresight to put in proper drainage!"

A floodplain is designed to hold water, it is where water goes when there is nowhere else for it to go.

I believe the only thing you will find that 'holds no water' is your statement.

LOL
There's no houses built in any flood plain at Wichelstowe. If you actually look at the plans the houses are positioned around the flood plains.

Dommo, Swindon says...
1:05pm Fri 22 May 09

Big-Brother wrote:
Dommo wrote:
Big-Brother wrote: Chill out woman! I am saddened that you fail to have any sense of humour, especially on a Friday. I will add though, if she thinks witchelstowe is going to be like an episode of 'Neighbours' she is very disillusioned! Titanic is probably more appropriate…
Yet to read anything funny?! Who cares what her beliefs are, and to that end, why should anyone on here ridicule them? Good luck to her, congratulations on the new home and good luck in building a community spirit. It's so lacking these days.
Oh dear, the god-squad have had their feathers ruffled! My prayers were not answered when they built that carbuncle. It looks like the set to Noddy and Big Ears new movie!
Far from being a god squad member (indeed, I'm pretty annoyed with the religious propaganda that's been coming through my letterbox recently), I just don't see the need to attack this lady for wanting a bit of community spirit. Lord knows they'll need it when it rains...

Big-Brother, Broome Manor says...
1:19pm Fri 22 May 09

Home Boy wrote:
Big-Brother wrote: "A flood plane you say - well thank goodness the engineers had the foresight to put in proper drainage!" A floodplain is designed to hold water, it is where water goes when there is nowhere else for it to go. I believe the only thing you will find that 'holds no water' is your statement. LOL
There's no houses built in any flood plain at Wichelstowe. If you actually look at the plans the houses are positioned around the flood plains.
Ummmm.... I would be very interested to investigate further as I know a significant area of the front garden is a floodplain…

If we have another summer like 2007, we will be sure to find out then. The Boulton’s will not only have en-suite rooms, they will have there own swimming pool!

fuzzy_felt, Swindon says...
1:33pm Fri 22 May 09

While I object strongly to building on the front garden, it's going to happen - it HAS happened, and I think it's really good that someone, regardless of their religious outlook, is keen to build a strong community and I think Wichelstowe will be much better for it.

I wish I'd taken more interest in my community when I moved in!

Wichelstowe may be small now but it will grow, and I think it's great that someone's trying to put some heart and soul into the place.

mr_fix_it, swindon says...
1:33pm Fri 22 May 09

I don't know the exact details of whether this is a flood plain or not, but even if the builders have been clever enough to avoid any flooding, that usually means the problem will be pushed down stream and some other poor s0ds house will get flooded instead. The water has to go somewhere.

Big-Brother, Broome Manor says...
1:43pm Fri 22 May 09

fuzzy_felt wrote:
While I object strongly to building on the front garden, it's going to happen - it HAS happened, and I think it's really good that someone, regardless of their religious outlook, is keen to build a strong community and I think Wichelstowe will be much better for it. I wish I'd taken more interest in my community when I moved in! Wichelstowe may be small now but it will grow, and I think it's great that someone's trying to put some heart and soul into the place.
I tell you now; it won’t happen in this day and age. She may get a few old dears in her club with nothing else to do but the reality is that people have less time and more ways to entertain themselves these days.

I think it is particular poor using the ‘build a community’ cover to get people to join her cult. “Come and join us.”…… scary.

yeti, swindon says...
1:55pm Fri 22 May 09

er? isn't broome manor just a stones throw away,and itself on a flood plain, big brother?


Big-Brother, Broome Manor says...
2:02pm Fri 22 May 09

yeti wrote:
er? isn't broome manor just a stones throw away,and itself on a flood plain, big brother?
Nope. Its nowhere near wichelstowe and not on a flood plain.


yeti, swindon says...
2:09pm Fri 22 May 09

Big-Brother wrote:
yeti wrote: er? isn't broome manor just a stones throw away,and itself on a flood plain, big brother?
Nope. Its nowhere near wichelstowe and not on a flood plain.
well it's on the same strip of land as far as i can tell.as is wroughton,but on the other side.

The Lіbrаrіаn Sаys Οook, Swindon says...
2:17pm Fri 22 May 09

Completely agree PaulD, religion is the cause of much animosity.

That said, I happen to believe in the tale of Noah's Ark, which means it's absolutely true.

I don't care what contrary scientific evidence is produced or fossils discovered - if I believe it's true then it's true, just like I believe passive smoking is fine for you.

Now don't forget, if you want to argue you'll be arguing with ME, The Librarian, so you can't win OK!.

Just remember, unless I personally have approved the evidence then it's not true.

Big-Brother, Broome Manor says...
2:19pm Fri 22 May 09

yeti wrote:
Big-Brother wrote:
yeti wrote: er? isn't broome manor just a stones throw away,and itself on a flood plain, big brother?
Nope. Its nowhere near wichelstowe and not on a flood plain.
well it's on the same strip of land as far as i can tell.as is wroughton,but on the other side.
You could also argue that 'Rushy Platt' is on the same 'strip'. In fact I think you will find that that is much closer.

There is also a huge hill on this strip you speak of. Broome has its very own flood plain - Coate Water.

yeti, swindon says...
2:26pm Fri 22 May 09

Big-Brother wrote:
yeti wrote:
Big-Brother wrote:
yeti wrote: er? isn't broome manor just a stones throw away,and itself on a flood plain, big brother?
Nope. Its nowhere near wichelstowe and not on a flood plain.
well it's on the same strip of land as far as i can tell.as is wroughton,but on the other side.
You could also argue that 'Rushy Platt' is on the same 'strip'. In fact I think you will find that that is much closer. There is also a huge hill on this strip you speak of. Broome has its very own flood plain - Coate Water.
i remember playing on the land that occupioes the homes on rushy platt as a child.that used to flood,just like the grass on wootton bassett road does still.
the fact is that with decent drainage it wont flood.the flood plain thing was just a tool used by nimbys to try to stop development.

Home Boy, Swindon says...
2:37pm Fri 22 May 09

yeti wrote:
Big-Brother wrote:
yeti wrote:
Big-Brother wrote:
yeti wrote: er? isn't broome manor just a stones throw away,and itself on a flood plain, big brother?
Nope. Its nowhere near wichelstowe and not on a flood plain.
well it's on the same strip of land as far as i can tell.as is wroughton,but on the other side.
You could also argue that 'Rushy Platt' is on the same 'strip'. In fact I think you will find that that is much closer. There is also a huge hill on this strip you speak of. Broome has its very own flood plain - Coate Water.
i remember playing on the land that occupioes the homes on rushy platt as a child.that used to flood,just like the grass on wootton bassett road does still.
the fact is that with decent drainage it wont flood.the flood plain thing was just a tool used by nimbys to try to stop development.
Rushy Platt is built on a flood plain, mainly created by the railway line. The areas where housing is being built on the front garden are outside the flood plain.

Big-Brother, Broome Manor says...
2:49pm Fri 22 May 09

yeti wrote:
Big-Brother wrote:
yeti wrote:
Big-Brother wrote:
yeti wrote: er? isn't broome manor just a stones throw away,and itself on a flood plain, big brother?
Nope. Its nowhere near wichelstowe and not on a flood plain.
well it's on the same strip of land as far as i can tell.as is wroughton,but on the other side.
You could also argue that 'Rushy Platt' is on the same 'strip'. In fact I think you will find that that is much closer. There is also a huge hill on this strip you speak of. Broome has its very own flood plain - Coate Water.
i remember playing on the land that occupioes the homes on rushy platt as a child.that used to flood,just like the grass on wootton bassett road does still. the fact is that with decent drainage it wont flood.the flood plain thing was just a tool used by nimbys to try to stop development.
That is correct yeti, proves my point.

Although as stated earlier, you can build as many drainage systems as you like but the water still has to go somewhere. As we saw in summer 07, many drains could not cope with the flash flooding and that is where the problems began, these problems increase ten fold in urban areas.

I do fear for the residents of Wichelstowe, although if they do get the community together, at least they could organise who is going to fill and place the sandbags.

Old Town, Old Town, Swindon says...
2:56pm Fri 22 May 09

Wichelstowe will flood at some point - this is inevitable....

I live above it, overlooking it...

If we have 2 days of decent rain half the fields down there are covered in water - and when we have lots of rain over a sustained period it gets MUCH worse...

Unfortunately Prescott and his chums at the council and beyond were SO determined to build on this stretch of land that no amount of water would have ever stopped them....

The other interesting thing about this area is they STILL haven't answered the question of where the kids are going to go to school who move in ?!?!

Commonweal in Old Town is full and turning people away, and Ridgeway have no room either....

Always Grumpy, Swindon says...
3:33pm Fri 22 May 09

Old Town wrote:
Unfortunately living where I do I now have to look over the eyesore that is Wichelstowe....Actua

lly the FRONT GARDEN !

I bet those families cannot wait to move in - noisy motorway, no shops, no schools, in fact nothing but a few odd looking houses....

Hmmm - sounds so appealing - and now a pilgrim to boot :-)
Presumably, you were one of the moronic group of NYMBY's who objected to the development?
Front garden indeed! There was nothing attractive about that area of land, unless your own garden is even worse!

Always Grumpy, Swindon says...
3:36pm Fri 22 May 09

Big-Brother wrote:
Home Boy wrote:
Big-Brother wrote: "A flood plane you say - well thank goodness the engineers had the foresight to put in proper drainage!" A floodplain is designed to hold water, it is where water goes when there is nowhere else for it to go. I believe the only thing you will find that 'holds no water' is your statement. LOL
There's no houses built in any flood plain at Wichelstowe. If you actually look at the plans the houses are positioned around the flood plains.
Ummmm.... I would be very interested to investigate further as I know a significant area of the front garden is a floodplain…

If we have another summer like 2007, we will be sure to find out then. The Boulton’s will not only have en-suite rooms, they will have there own swimming pool!
And an even greater area isn't a flood plain.
I can read plans even if you can't.

The Librarian says Oook, Swindon says...
3:41pm Fri 22 May 09

The Lіbrаrіаn Sаys Οook wrote:
Completely agree PaulD, religion is the cause of much animosity. That said, I happen to believe in the tale of Noah's Ark, which means it's absolutely true. I don't care what contrary scientific evidence is produced or fossils discovered - if I believe it's true then it's true, just like I believe passive smoking is fine for you. Now don't forget, if you want to argue you'll be arguing with ME, The Librarian, so you can't win OK!. Just remember, unless I personally have approved the evidence then it's not true.

Well imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, so someone has tried to flatter me by ripping off my name.

Can I just point out that this post is not the genuine article.

In my posts the "S" of the word "says," is lower case.

This imposter has a capitalised letter.
And they are an idiot too!

Big-Brother, Broome Manor says...
3:51pm Fri 22 May 09

Always Grumpy wrote:
Big-Brother wrote:
Home Boy wrote:
Big-Brother wrote: "A flood plane you say - well thank goodness the engineers had the foresight to put in proper drainage!" A floodplain is designed to hold water, it is where water goes when there is nowhere else for it to go. I believe the only thing you will find that 'holds no water' is your statement. LOL
There's no houses built in any flood plain at Wichelstowe. If you actually look at the plans the houses are positioned around the flood plains.
Ummmm.... I would be very interested to investigate further as I know a significant area of the front garden is a floodplain… If we have another summer like 2007, we will be sure to find out then. The Boulton’s will not only have en-suite rooms, they will have there own swimming pool!
And an even greater area isn't a flood plain. I can read plans even if you can't.
Maybe so but I think you will find that’s not the area they built on.

It has flooded in the past where houses stand - it will flood in the future.

If you’re so certain, why don’t you put your money where your mouth is and buy a place there?

When it rains, I will roll over to 'Old Towns' gaff with a few cans and enjoy watching you bailing water while cursing the heavens!

LOL

Your not Welsh are you? You do seem very grumpy indeed.

Old Town, Old Town, Swindon says...
3:56pm Fri 22 May 09

Always Grumpy wrote:
Old Town wrote:
Unfortunately living where I do I now have to look over the eyesore that is Wichelstowe....Actua


lly the FRONT GARDEN !

I bet those families cannot wait to move in - noisy motorway, no shops, no schools, in fact nothing but a few odd looking houses....

Hmmm - sounds so appealing - and now a pilgrim to boot :-)
Presumably, you were one of the moronic group of NYMBY's who objected to the development?
Front garden indeed! There was nothing attractive about that area of land, unless your own garden is even worse!
Moronic ? Sorry, objecting to more dross housing being built on an area of town that was actually VERY pretty, and even worse right on a flood plain seems a fairly reasonable thing to me.

Objecting that the fools who planned this did not build into the plans a secondary school; objecting that they NEVER, EVER answered the question of where all the flood water will go, blimey what a moron I must be !!!!

Get a life you grumpy old beggar !

Home Boy, Swindon says...
4:01pm Fri 22 May 09

http://maps.environm
ent-agency.gov.uk/wi
yby/wiybyController?
x=416500.0&y=185500.
0&topic=floodmap&ep=
map&scale=3&location
=Swindon,%20Swindon&
lang=_e&layerGroups=
default&textonly=off
#x=413304&y=183013&l
g=1,&scale=5

Bit of a long URL, but copy and paste it and have a look. Not always an all encompassing map, but most other forms of flooding can be fairly well mitigated without affecting anyone else. No idea if this has been done at Wichelstowe though. It went through the planning system ages ago so possibly not.

Big-Brother, Broome Manor says...
4:02pm Fri 22 May 09

Always Grumpy wrote:
Big-Brother wrote:
Home Boy wrote:
Big-Brother wrote: "A flood plane you say - well thank goodness the engineers had the foresight to put in proper drainage!" A floodplain is designed to hold water, it is where water goes when there is nowhere else for it to go. I believe the only thing you will find that 'holds no water' is your statement. LOL
There's no houses built in any flood plain at Wichelstowe. If you actually look at the plans the houses are positioned around the flood plains.
Ummmm.... I would be very interested to investigate further as I know a significant area of the front garden is a floodplain… If we have another summer like 2007, we will be sure to find out then. The Boulton’s will not only have en-suite rooms, they will have there own swimming pool!
And an even greater area isn't a flood plain. I can read plans even if you can't.
BTW, you couldn't read 'The Hungry Caterpillar' let alone a plan of a flood pain.

Do us all a favour and disappear.

Home Boy, Swindon says...
4:04pm Fri 22 May 09

Also www.wichelstowe.co.u
k

The masterplan shows four schools within the development, including one much larger school which you'd assume is intended to be a secondary school? I'm guessing they have to wait until they have some students before they can start opening schools.

The masterplan, when compared with the flooding map, also shows no houses in the floodplain.

Skint, Swindon says...
4:36pm Fri 22 May 09

What I like about Wichelstow is that it's such a monument to our times, all those perfectly built deserted roads, bridges and empty houses. At first I was upset about the development because it affected my friends and my animals who live(d) there. The whole thing has been badly handled imho, they forced people out of the cottages and then they stood empty and were vandalised. Still, whats done is done and in 20 years time no one will remember when it was any different or what a cow, deer, horse or sheep looks like.

dazfromBBC, Bristol says...
5:15pm Fri 22 May 09

What an interesting tread. Good on Alison. Far from being delusional she happens to be an extremely likeable lady. It is a shame people are so quick to judge without knowing the individual. I shall be praying for some of you.

PaulD, Swindon says...
6:21pm Fri 22 May 09

"I shall be praying for some of you."

and I shall juggle tennis balls for you

Old Town, Old Town, Swindon says...
7:19pm Fri 22 May 09

Home Boy wrote:
Also www.wichelstowe.co.u

k

The masterplan shows four schools within the development, including one much larger school which you'd assume is intended to be a secondary school? I'm guessing they have to wait until they have some students before they can start opening schools.

The masterplan, when compared with the flooding map, also shows no houses in the floodplain.
I'm sorry Home Boy but this actually illustrates how little you know about this subject...

The original secondary school that is still on the "master plan" you refer to is long gone....

The council "forgot" to budget for it, so they tried to close Commonweal school in Old Town, sell the prime land there for houses in order to pay for a new school on the cheap!

Needless to say that plan fell from the tree's pretty quick when local residents found out about it!

The other 3 primary and infant schools have also collapsed into possibly 1 small primary school - and even if that is ever built (unlikely as again, no budget) it will be at least 5-6 years before it gets off the ground....

So it looks like the "plan" that you mention is about as much use as one of the drains on Wichelstowe !!

Always Grumpy, Swindon says...
9:29pm Fri 22 May 09

Old Town wrote:
Home Boy wrote:
Also www.wichelstowe.co.u


k

The masterplan shows four schools within the development, including one much larger school which you'd assume is intended to be a secondary school? I'm guessing they have to wait until they have some students before they can start opening schools.

The masterplan, when compared with the flooding map, also shows no houses in the floodplain.
I'm sorry Home Boy but this actually illustrates how little you know about this subject...

The original secondary school that is still on the "master plan" you refer to is long gone....

The council "forgot" to budget for it, so they tried to close Commonweal school in Old Town, sell the prime land there for houses in order to pay for a new school on the cheap!

Needless to say that plan fell from the tree's pretty quick when local residents found out about it!

The other 3 primary and infant schools have also collapsed into possibly 1 small primary school - and even if that is ever built (unlikely as again, no budget) it will be at least 5-6 years before it gets off the ground....

So it looks like the "plan" that you mention is about as much use as one of the drains on Wichelstowe !!
Presumably you live in one of the clapped out Victorian terraced houses in Old Town and can't afford one of the nice new houses in Wichelstowe!

Envy is such a cruel master and you seem to be consumed by it.

ifuwantblood, swindon from above says...
9:44pm Fri 22 May 09

Well, I pity anyone who moves in within bible throwing distance of this fruit-loop.

I expect the lack of schools is part of the appeal for the cult she belongs to - no doubt they'll soon have their own 'school' up and running as part of their long-term recruitment plans.

And who's this 'family friend' they've got lurking in the background. Will there be more to follow? Will every family be able to have a 'friend' staying with them? Does anyone remember 'The Wicker Man'?

ifuwantblood, swindon from above says...
9:48pm Fri 22 May 09

PS. Snelgrove would fit in perfectly.

EXESENEE, Swindon says...
1:11am Sat 23 May 09


TO THE BOULTON FAMILY BEST WISHES IN YOUR NEW HOME.

I THINK YOU SHOULD IGNORE ALL THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS. IT'S GREAT TO SEE THAT A COMMUNITY SPIRITED FAMILY HAVE MOVED IN FIRST. WELL DONE THE BOULTON'S.

I'M SURE YOUR HOME AND WICHELSTOWE WILL BE BLESSED BY THE LORD.

William the Conker, Swindon says...
7:42am Sat 23 May 09

EXESENEE wrote:
TO THE BOULTON FAMILY BEST WISHES IN YOUR NEW HOME. I THINK YOU SHOULD IGNORE ALL THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS. IT'S GREAT TO SEE THAT A COMMUNITY SPIRITED FAMILY HAVE MOVED IN FIRST. WELL DONE THE BOULTON'S. I'M SURE YOUR HOME AND WICHELSTOWE WILL BE BLESSED BY THE LORD.
The problem is, is that the talk of religion breeds negativity. The Boulton family will now be on the back foot as some people will run when they see them coming.

Nobody wants to be preached at!

The talk of community spirit should be separate, you don't need God to be good to your neighbours.

I live in North Swindon and there is a community spirit in the street where I live. The neighbours talk, lend things and sometimes go out together.

I would like to add that most of us are from Northern origins! That may explain it.

Old Town, Old Town, Swindon says...
11:41am Sat 23 May 09

Always Grumpy wrote:
Old Town wrote:
Home Boy wrote:
Also www.wichelstowe.co.u



k

The masterplan shows four schools within the development, including one much larger school which you'd assume is intended to be a secondary school? I'm guessing they have to wait until they have some students before they can start opening schools.

The masterplan, when compared with the flooding map, also shows no houses in the floodplain.
I'm sorry Home Boy but this actually illustrates how little you know about this subject...

The original secondary school that is still on the "master plan" you refer to is long gone....

The council "forgot" to budget for it, so they tried to close Commonweal school in Old Town, sell the prime land there for houses in order to pay for a new school on the cheap!

Needless to say that plan fell from the tree's pretty quick when local residents found out about it!

The other 3 primary and infant schools have also collapsed into possibly 1 small primary school - and even if that is ever built (unlikely as again, no budget) it will be at least 5-6 years before it gets off the ground....

So it looks like the "plan" that you mention is about as much use as one of the drains on Wichelstowe !!
Presumably you live in one of the clapped out Victorian terraced houses in Old Town and can't afford one of the nice new houses in Wichelstowe!

Envy is such a cruel master and you seem to be consumed by it.
And there you go again - spouting claptrap you know nothing about.....

No I do not live in a clapped out Victorian terraced house - although the terraced houses of the Mall, Goddard Avenue and Avenue Road are some of the nicest houses in Swindon, and certainly not clapped out !

Envious of someone moving into a new house in a flood plain next to a bible basher where there are no schools, shops or anything else for the local "community" -- hmmmm envy isn't a word I would be using !!

Crawl back under that narrow minded stone of yours pal - I'm bored of your nonsense now.....

Kineasy, Swindon says...
12:09pm Sat 23 May 09

This post seems to have disolved into the bullying and name calling more appropriate in a school playground. I shall look elsewhere on this site for a more intelligent debate.

Always Grumpy, Swindon says...
7:17pm Sat 23 May 09

Old Town wrote:
Always Grumpy wrote:
Old Town wrote:
Home Boy wrote:
Also www.wichelstowe.co.u




k

The masterplan shows four schools within the development, including one much larger school which you'd assume is intended to be a secondary school? I'm guessing they have to wait until they have some students before they can start opening schools.

The masterplan, when compared with the flooding map, also shows no houses in the floodplain.
I'm sorry Home Boy but this actually illustrates how little you know about this subject...

The original secondary school that is still on the "master plan" you refer to is long gone....

The council "forgot" to budget for it, so they tried to close Commonweal school in Old Town, sell the prime land there for houses in order to pay for a new school on the cheap!

Needless to say that plan fell from the tree's pretty quick when local residents found out about it!

The other 3 primary and infant schools have also collapsed into possibly 1 small primary school - and even if that is ever built (unlikely as again, no budget) it will be at least 5-6 years before it gets off the ground....

So it looks like the "plan" that you mention is about as much use as one of the drains on Wichelstowe !!
Presumably you live in one of the clapped out Victorian terraced houses in Old Town and can't afford one of the nice new houses in Wichelstowe!

Envy is such a cruel master and you seem to be consumed by it.
And there you go again - spouting claptrap you know nothing about.....

No I do not live in a clapped out Victorian terraced house - although the terraced houses of the Mall, Goddard Avenue and Avenue Road are some of the nicest houses in Swindon, and certainly not clapped out !

Envious of someone moving into a new house in a flood plain next to a bible basher where there are no schools, shops or anything else for the local "community" -- hmmmm envy isn't a word I would be using !!

Crawl back under that narrow minded stone of yours pal - I'm bored of your nonsense now.....
Hit the nail on the head did I?

Old Town, Old Town, Swindon says...
7:56pm Sat 23 May 09

Sorry - are you really that thick ?

What did you not understand about what I wrote - or maybe you are just too stupid to read......

Always Grumpy, Swindon says...
8:50pm Sat 23 May 09

Old Town wrote:
Sorry - are you really that thick ?

What did you not understand about what I wrote - or maybe you are just too stupid to read......
Just insults now then?

The final words from someone who cannot express him/herself effectively.

You must be someone with a very large chip on their shoulder regarding the development of the wasteland between Wroughton and the M4. As I said in an earlie post one of the moronic NIMBY's.
You're not Kings son/daughter by any chance?

I suppose we can only have pity on someone as sad and deluded as yourself!
Never mind, you might get over it.

Big-Brother, Broome Manor says...
9:35am Wed 27 May 09

You never answed my post "Always Grumpy" - I believe you are a pipe smoking Welshman - am I correct?

Funny how you claim 'Old Town' is throwing the insults when it is in fact you.

Your so bitter, I hope you rot in hell.

Jiver, Swindon says...
11:05pm Wed 27 May 09

Mr Phillips, you really should retire properly.
find a couple of leisure activities (and I don't mean playing golf, just to rub shoulders with "influentials"), then you might appreciate scenery, beyond prospective building sites. You might then discover the true meaning of enjoying your senior years, and perhaps make some genuine friends, that dont just deal in alterior motives.

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