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with 'SWINDON NEWS'
9:00am Friday 22nd May 2009
THE first and so far only family in Wichelstowe say: “Come and join us.”
The Boulton family have just moved in to Swindon’s newest neighbourhood.
Although the credit crunch has put back the Wichelstowe building schedule for a year and the development of the area attracted controversy – the new arrivals are delighted with their new home and looking forward to welcoming neighbours as they arrive.
Mum Alison Boulton, 46, who is to be ordained as a Baptist minister in July, is working with her own and other local churches, together with other organisations including Swindon Council and Sovereign Housing, to begin building a thriving, friendly neighbourhood.
She said: “Wichelstowe has had some negative publicity, but there are a whole lot of people who feel that this will be a really positive community and a really great place to live.
“Being in right at the beginning is a great way to become part of a new community.
“When a community is just starting, it’s easier to make friends and get to know people.
“We can begin to see what are the ways in which we’d like to have the community develop.
“For example, what community groups should there be?”
Alison, a former drama teacher, is married to IT consultant Neil, 47, and the couple have three children. Josh is 19, Lydia 17 and Harriet 13. Family friend Victoria Tovar also lives in the new home.
The younger family members are highly impressed with the house. Lydia said: “It’s good here – and I have a double bedroom with an en suite!”
The house, sold by Bryant Homes, is a four-bedroomed model called a Fairfield.
Alison added: “I feel very excited to be here at the beginning.
“When we were thinking about coming here, and praying, we got a sense that we’d be here at the beginning.
“When I spoke with the West of England Baptist Association, I learned that they were looking for somebody to be based in Wichelstowe as a community and social leader, holistically meeting the spiritual and practical needs of new residents.
“It’s an exciting new phase in our lives, as we will not only be involved in building a community from scratch but also enjoying our first new home ever as a family.”
Previously, the family had lived in Walcot Road, Old Walcot, for 14 years.
They are full of praise for the quality of their house, the view and the help they have received from Bryant Homes, especially site manager Justin Taylor.
And her message to people considering becoming fellow Wichelstowe pioneers?
“Come and help us found this community.”
PaulD, Swindon says...
9:13am Fri 22 May 09
Al Smith, Swindon says...
9:19am Fri 22 May 09
Home Boy, Swindon says...
9:36am Fri 22 May 09
Ms Hallaballo, Wroughton says...
9:44am Fri 22 May 09
PaulD, Swindon says...
9:57am Fri 22 May 09
Ms Hallaballo wrote:THEY WILL BUILD AN ARK WHEN THE NEXT FLOOD COMES.
Astonished that this family used to live in Old Walcot for 14 years.
Surely every Swindon resident knows this area will flood, that the noise from the M4 is unbearable, and that countless wildlife has been destroyed to build this toy-town?
Big-Brother, Broome Manor says...
10:10am Fri 22 May 09
PaulD wrote:Hahahahahahaha!
Ms Hallaballo wrote: Astonished that this family used to live in Old Walcot for 14 years. Surely every Swindon resident knows this area will flood, that the noise from the M4 is unbearable, and that countless wildlife has been destroyed to build this toy-town?THEY WILL BUILD AN ARK WHEN THE NEXT FLOOD COMES.
sunflowerliz, Swindon says...
10:37am Fri 22 May 09
Common Dreads, Swindon says...
10:53am Fri 22 May 09
Big-Brother, Broome Manor says...
10:54am Fri 22 May 09
PaulD, Swindon says...
10:56am Fri 22 May 09
Big-Brother, Broome Manor says...
11:16am Fri 22 May 09
mr_fix_it, swindon says...
11:23am Fri 22 May 09
Swindon_AOK, Swindon says...
11:52am Fri 22 May 09
notcross, Highworth says...
11:59am Fri 22 May 09
pjohnson0410, Swindon says...
12:03pm Fri 22 May 09
mr_fix_it wrote:The sold signs are probably because a "social Housing group" has bought them?? Already mentioned was Sovereign Housing, so maybe they are moving more people in from Walcot?? Most of that currnet build would have been sold to them, as it's a certain sale for Bryant's.
What, the houses aren't flying off the shelf to feed the massive demand for new homes in Swindon? If you were cynical, you'd almost think that these new houses aren't really required and just being built to meet government targets. Shameless advert for Bryant too... tut tut.
Big-Brother, Broome Manor says...
12:07pm Fri 22 May 09
Dommo, Swindon says...
12:12pm Fri 22 May 09
Big-Brother wrote:Yet to read anything funny?!
Chill out woman! I am saddened that you fail to have any sense of humour, especially on a Friday. I will add though, if she thinks witchelstowe is going to be like an episode of 'Neighbours' she is very disillusioned! Titanic is probably more appropriate…
Old Town, Old Town, Swindon says...
12:18pm Fri 22 May 09
mr_fix_it, swindon says...
12:27pm Fri 22 May 09
pjohnson0410 wrote:I'm always dubious about the number of sold signs in new developments. Developers love to put them up to show that the houses are selling fast. One of the oldest tricks in the book based on the scarcity principle.
mr_fix_it wrote:The sold signs are probably because a "social Housing group" has bought them?? Already mentioned was Sovereign Housing, so maybe they are moving more people in from Walcot?? Most of that currnet build would have been sold to them, as it's a certain sale for Bryant's.
What, the houses aren't flying off the shelf to feed the massive demand for new homes in Swindon? If you were cynical, you'd almost think that these new houses aren't really required and just being built to meet government targets. Shameless advert for Bryant too... tut tut.
Big-Brother, Broome Manor says...
12:31pm Fri 22 May 09
Dommo wrote:Oh dear, the god-squad have had their feathers ruffled!
Big-Brother wrote: Chill out woman! I am saddened that you fail to have any sense of humour, especially on a Friday. I will add though, if she thinks witchelstowe is going to be like an episode of 'Neighbours' she is very disillusioned! Titanic is probably more appropriate…Yet to read anything funny?! Who cares what her beliefs are, and to that end, why should anyone on here ridicule them? Good luck to her, congratulations on the new home and good luck in building a community spirit. It's so lacking these days.
Home Boy, Swindon says...
1:01pm Fri 22 May 09
Big-Brother wrote:There's no houses built in any flood plain at Wichelstowe. If you actually look at the plans the houses are positioned around the flood plains.
"A flood plane you say - well thank goodness the engineers had the foresight to put in proper drainage!"
A floodplain is designed to hold water, it is where water goes when there is nowhere else for it to go.
I believe the only thing you will find that 'holds no water' is your statement.
LOL
Dommo, Swindon says...
1:05pm Fri 22 May 09
Big-Brother wrote:Far from being a god squad member (indeed, I'm pretty annoyed with the religious propaganda that's been coming through my letterbox recently), I just don't see the need to attack this lady for wanting a bit of community spirit. Lord knows they'll need it when it rains...
Dommo wrote:Oh dear, the god-squad have had their feathers ruffled! My prayers were not answered when they built that carbuncle. It looks like the set to Noddy and Big Ears new movie!Big-Brother wrote: Chill out woman! I am saddened that you fail to have any sense of humour, especially on a Friday. I will add though, if she thinks witchelstowe is going to be like an episode of 'Neighbours' she is very disillusioned! Titanic is probably more appropriate…Yet to read anything funny?! Who cares what her beliefs are, and to that end, why should anyone on here ridicule them? Good luck to her, congratulations on the new home and good luck in building a community spirit. It's so lacking these days.
Big-Brother, Broome Manor says...
1:19pm Fri 22 May 09
Home Boy wrote:Ummmm.... I would be very interested to investigate further as I know a significant area of the front garden is a floodplain…
Big-Brother wrote: "A flood plane you say - well thank goodness the engineers had the foresight to put in proper drainage!" A floodplain is designed to hold water, it is where water goes when there is nowhere else for it to go. I believe the only thing you will find that 'holds no water' is your statement. LOLThere's no houses built in any flood plain at Wichelstowe. If you actually look at the plans the houses are positioned around the flood plains.
fuzzy_felt, Swindon says...
1:33pm Fri 22 May 09
mr_fix_it, swindon says...
1:33pm Fri 22 May 09
Big-Brother, Broome Manor says...
1:43pm Fri 22 May 09
fuzzy_felt wrote:I tell you now; it won’t happen in this day and age. She may get a few old dears in her club with nothing else to do but the reality is that people have less time and more ways to entertain themselves these days.
While I object strongly to building on the front garden, it's going to happen - it HAS happened, and I think it's really good that someone, regardless of their religious outlook, is keen to build a strong community and I think Wichelstowe will be much better for it. I wish I'd taken more interest in my community when I moved in! Wichelstowe may be small now but it will grow, and I think it's great that someone's trying to put some heart and soul into the place.
yeti, swindon says...
1:55pm Fri 22 May 09
Big-Brother, Broome Manor says...
2:02pm Fri 22 May 09
yeti wrote:Nope. Its nowhere near wichelstowe and not on a flood plain.
er? isn't broome manor just a stones throw away,and itself on a flood plain, big brother?
yeti, swindon says...
2:09pm Fri 22 May 09
Big-Brother wrote:well it's on the same strip of land as far as i can tell.as is wroughton,but on the other side.
yeti wrote: er? isn't broome manor just a stones throw away,and itself on a flood plain, big brother?Nope. Its nowhere near wichelstowe and not on a flood plain.
The Lіbrаrіаn Sаys Οook, Swindon says...
2:17pm Fri 22 May 09
Big-Brother, Broome Manor says...
2:19pm Fri 22 May 09
yeti wrote:You could also argue that 'Rushy Platt' is on the same 'strip'. In fact I think you will find that that is much closer.
Big-Brother wrote:well it's on the same strip of land as far as i can tell.as is wroughton,but on the other side.yeti wrote: er? isn't broome manor just a stones throw away,and itself on a flood plain, big brother?Nope. Its nowhere near wichelstowe and not on a flood plain.
yeti, swindon says...
2:26pm Fri 22 May 09
Big-Brother wrote:i remember playing on the land that occupioes the homes on rushy platt as a child.that used to flood,just like the grass on wootton bassett road does still.
yeti wrote:You could also argue that 'Rushy Platt' is on the same 'strip'. In fact I think you will find that that is much closer. There is also a huge hill on this strip you speak of. Broome has its very own flood plain - Coate Water.Big-Brother wrote:well it's on the same strip of land as far as i can tell.as is wroughton,but on the other side.yeti wrote: er? isn't broome manor just a stones throw away,and itself on a flood plain, big brother?Nope. Its nowhere near wichelstowe and not on a flood plain.
Home Boy, Swindon says...
2:37pm Fri 22 May 09
yeti wrote:Rushy Platt is built on a flood plain, mainly created by the railway line. The areas where housing is being built on the front garden are outside the flood plain.
Big-Brother wrote:i remember playing on the land that occupioes the homes on rushy platt as a child.that used to flood,just like the grass on wootton bassett road does still.
yeti wrote:You could also argue that 'Rushy Platt' is on the same 'strip'. In fact I think you will find that that is much closer. There is also a huge hill on this strip you speak of. Broome has its very own flood plain - Coate Water.Big-Brother wrote:well it's on the same strip of land as far as i can tell.as is wroughton,but on the other side.yeti wrote: er? isn't broome manor just a stones throw away,and itself on a flood plain, big brother?Nope. Its nowhere near wichelstowe and not on a flood plain.
the fact is that with decent drainage it wont flood.the flood plain thing was just a tool used by nimbys to try to stop development.
Big-Brother, Broome Manor says...
2:49pm Fri 22 May 09
yeti wrote:That is correct yeti, proves my point.
Big-Brother wrote:i remember playing on the land that occupioes the homes on rushy platt as a child.that used to flood,just like the grass on wootton bassett road does still. the fact is that with decent drainage it wont flood.the flood plain thing was just a tool used by nimbys to try to stop development.yeti wrote:You could also argue that 'Rushy Platt' is on the same 'strip'. In fact I think you will find that that is much closer. There is also a huge hill on this strip you speak of. Broome has its very own flood plain - Coate Water.Big-Brother wrote:well it's on the same strip of land as far as i can tell.as is wroughton,but on the other side.yeti wrote: er? isn't broome manor just a stones throw away,and itself on a flood plain, big brother?Nope. Its nowhere near wichelstowe and not on a flood plain.
Old Town, Old Town, Swindon says...
2:56pm Fri 22 May 09
Always Grumpy, Swindon says...
3:33pm Fri 22 May 09
Old Town wrote:Presumably, you were one of the moronic group of NYMBY's who objected to the development?
Unfortunately living where I do I now have to look over the eyesore that is Wichelstowe....Actua
lly the FRONT GARDEN !
I bet those families cannot wait to move in - noisy motorway, no shops, no schools, in fact nothing but a few odd looking houses....
Hmmm - sounds so appealing - and now a pilgrim to boot :-)
Always Grumpy, Swindon says...
3:36pm Fri 22 May 09
Big-Brother wrote:And an even greater area isn't a flood plain.
Home Boy wrote:Ummmm.... I would be very interested to investigate further as I know a significant area of the front garden is a floodplain…
Big-Brother wrote: "A flood plane you say - well thank goodness the engineers had the foresight to put in proper drainage!" A floodplain is designed to hold water, it is where water goes when there is nowhere else for it to go. I believe the only thing you will find that 'holds no water' is your statement. LOLThere's no houses built in any flood plain at Wichelstowe. If you actually look at the plans the houses are positioned around the flood plains.
If we have another summer like 2007, we will be sure to find out then. The Boulton’s will not only have en-suite rooms, they will have there own swimming pool!
The Librarian says Oook, Swindon says...
3:41pm Fri 22 May 09
The Lіbrаrіаn Sаys Οook wrote:
Completely agree PaulD, religion is the cause of much animosity. That said, I happen to believe in the tale of Noah's Ark, which means it's absolutely true. I don't care what contrary scientific evidence is produced or fossils discovered - if I believe it's true then it's true, just like I believe passive smoking is fine for you. Now don't forget, if you want to argue you'll be arguing with ME, The Librarian, so you can't win OK!. Just remember, unless I personally have approved the evidence then it's not true.
Big-Brother, Broome Manor says...
3:51pm Fri 22 May 09
Always Grumpy wrote:Maybe so but I think you will find that’s not the area they built on.
Big-Brother wrote:And an even greater area isn't a flood plain. I can read plans even if you can't.Home Boy wrote:Ummmm.... I would be very interested to investigate further as I know a significant area of the front garden is a floodplain… If we have another summer like 2007, we will be sure to find out then. The Boulton’s will not only have en-suite rooms, they will have there own swimming pool!Big-Brother wrote: "A flood plane you say - well thank goodness the engineers had the foresight to put in proper drainage!" A floodplain is designed to hold water, it is where water goes when there is nowhere else for it to go. I believe the only thing you will find that 'holds no water' is your statement. LOLThere's no houses built in any flood plain at Wichelstowe. If you actually look at the plans the houses are positioned around the flood plains.
Old Town, Old Town, Swindon says...
3:56pm Fri 22 May 09
Always Grumpy wrote:Moronic ? Sorry, objecting to more dross housing being built on an area of town that was actually VERY pretty, and even worse right on a flood plain seems a fairly reasonable thing to me.
Old Town wrote:Presumably, you were one of the moronic group of NYMBY's who objected to the development?
Unfortunately living where I do I now have to look over the eyesore that is Wichelstowe....Actua
lly the FRONT GARDEN !
I bet those families cannot wait to move in - noisy motorway, no shops, no schools, in fact nothing but a few odd looking houses....
Hmmm - sounds so appealing - and now a pilgrim to boot :-)
Front garden indeed! There was nothing attractive about that area of land, unless your own garden is even worse!
Home Boy, Swindon says...
4:01pm Fri 22 May 09
Big-Brother, Broome Manor says...
4:02pm Fri 22 May 09
Always Grumpy wrote:BTW, you couldn't read 'The Hungry Caterpillar' let alone a plan of a flood pain.
Big-Brother wrote:And an even greater area isn't a flood plain. I can read plans even if you can't.Home Boy wrote:Ummmm.... I would be very interested to investigate further as I know a significant area of the front garden is a floodplain… If we have another summer like 2007, we will be sure to find out then. The Boulton’s will not only have en-suite rooms, they will have there own swimming pool!Big-Brother wrote: "A flood plane you say - well thank goodness the engineers had the foresight to put in proper drainage!" A floodplain is designed to hold water, it is where water goes when there is nowhere else for it to go. I believe the only thing you will find that 'holds no water' is your statement. LOLThere's no houses built in any flood plain at Wichelstowe. If you actually look at the plans the houses are positioned around the flood plains.
Home Boy, Swindon says...
4:04pm Fri 22 May 09
Skint, Swindon says...
4:36pm Fri 22 May 09
dazfromBBC, Bristol says...
5:15pm Fri 22 May 09
PaulD, Swindon says...
6:21pm Fri 22 May 09
Old Town, Old Town, Swindon says...
7:19pm Fri 22 May 09
Home Boy wrote:I'm sorry Home Boy but this actually illustrates how little you know about this subject...
Also www.wichelstowe.co.u
k
The masterplan shows four schools within the development, including one much larger school which you'd assume is intended to be a secondary school? I'm guessing they have to wait until they have some students before they can start opening schools.
The masterplan, when compared with the flooding map, also shows no houses in the floodplain.
Always Grumpy, Swindon says...
9:29pm Fri 22 May 09
Old Town wrote:Presumably you live in one of the clapped out Victorian terraced houses in Old Town and can't afford one of the nice new houses in Wichelstowe!
Home Boy wrote:I'm sorry Home Boy but this actually illustrates how little you know about this subject...
Also www.wichelstowe.co.u
k
The masterplan shows four schools within the development, including one much larger school which you'd assume is intended to be a secondary school? I'm guessing they have to wait until they have some students before they can start opening schools.
The masterplan, when compared with the flooding map, also shows no houses in the floodplain.
The original secondary school that is still on the "master plan" you refer to is long gone....
The council "forgot" to budget for it, so they tried to close Commonweal school in Old Town, sell the prime land there for houses in order to pay for a new school on the cheap!
Needless to say that plan fell from the tree's pretty quick when local residents found out about it!
The other 3 primary and infant schools have also collapsed into possibly 1 small primary school - and even if that is ever built (unlikely as again, no budget) it will be at least 5-6 years before it gets off the ground....
So it looks like the "plan" that you mention is about as much use as one of the drains on Wichelstowe !!
ifuwantblood, swindon from above says...
9:44pm Fri 22 May 09
ifuwantblood, swindon from above says...
9:48pm Fri 22 May 09
EXESENEE, Swindon says...
1:11am Sat 23 May 09
William the Conker, Swindon says...
7:42am Sat 23 May 09
EXESENEE wrote:The problem is, is that the talk of religion breeds negativity. The Boulton family will now be on the back foot as some people will run when they see them coming.
TO THE BOULTON FAMILY BEST WISHES IN YOUR NEW HOME. I THINK YOU SHOULD IGNORE ALL THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS. IT'S GREAT TO SEE THAT A COMMUNITY SPIRITED FAMILY HAVE MOVED IN FIRST. WELL DONE THE BOULTON'S. I'M SURE YOUR HOME AND WICHELSTOWE WILL BE BLESSED BY THE LORD.
Old Town, Old Town, Swindon says...
11:41am Sat 23 May 09
Always Grumpy wrote:And there you go again - spouting claptrap you know nothing about.....
Old Town wrote:Presumably you live in one of the clapped out Victorian terraced houses in Old Town and can't afford one of the nice new houses in Wichelstowe!
Home Boy wrote:I'm sorry Home Boy but this actually illustrates how little you know about this subject...
Also www.wichelstowe.co.u
k
The masterplan shows four schools within the development, including one much larger school which you'd assume is intended to be a secondary school? I'm guessing they have to wait until they have some students before they can start opening schools.
The masterplan, when compared with the flooding map, also shows no houses in the floodplain.
The original secondary school that is still on the "master plan" you refer to is long gone....
The council "forgot" to budget for it, so they tried to close Commonweal school in Old Town, sell the prime land there for houses in order to pay for a new school on the cheap!
Needless to say that plan fell from the tree's pretty quick when local residents found out about it!
The other 3 primary and infant schools have also collapsed into possibly 1 small primary school - and even if that is ever built (unlikely as again, no budget) it will be at least 5-6 years before it gets off the ground....
So it looks like the "plan" that you mention is about as much use as one of the drains on Wichelstowe !!
Envy is such a cruel master and you seem to be consumed by it.
Kineasy, Swindon says...
12:09pm Sat 23 May 09
Always Grumpy, Swindon says...
7:17pm Sat 23 May 09
Old Town wrote:Hit the nail on the head did I?
Always Grumpy wrote:And there you go again - spouting claptrap you know nothing about.....
Old Town wrote:Presumably you live in one of the clapped out Victorian terraced houses in Old Town and can't afford one of the nice new houses in Wichelstowe!
Home Boy wrote:I'm sorry Home Boy but this actually illustrates how little you know about this subject...
Also www.wichelstowe.co.u
k
The masterplan shows four schools within the development, including one much larger school which you'd assume is intended to be a secondary school? I'm guessing they have to wait until they have some students before they can start opening schools.
The masterplan, when compared with the flooding map, also shows no houses in the floodplain.
The original secondary school that is still on the "master plan" you refer to is long gone....
The council "forgot" to budget for it, so they tried to close Commonweal school in Old Town, sell the prime land there for houses in order to pay for a new school on the cheap!
Needless to say that plan fell from the tree's pretty quick when local residents found out about it!
The other 3 primary and infant schools have also collapsed into possibly 1 small primary school - and even if that is ever built (unlikely as again, no budget) it will be at least 5-6 years before it gets off the ground....
So it looks like the "plan" that you mention is about as much use as one of the drains on Wichelstowe !!
Envy is such a cruel master and you seem to be consumed by it.
No I do not live in a clapped out Victorian terraced house - although the terraced houses of the Mall, Goddard Avenue and Avenue Road are some of the nicest houses in Swindon, and certainly not clapped out !
Envious of someone moving into a new house in a flood plain next to a bible basher where there are no schools, shops or anything else for the local "community" -- hmmmm envy isn't a word I would be using !!
Crawl back under that narrow minded stone of yours pal - I'm bored of your nonsense now.....
Old Town, Old Town, Swindon says...
7:56pm Sat 23 May 09
Always Grumpy, Swindon says...
8:50pm Sat 23 May 09
Old Town wrote:Just insults now then?
Sorry - are you really that thick ?
What did you not understand about what I wrote - or maybe you are just too stupid to read......
Big-Brother, Broome Manor says...
9:35am Wed 27 May 09
Jiver, Swindon says...
11:05pm Wed 27 May 09
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Big-Brother, Broome Manor says...
9:08am Fri 22 May 09
Would be funny they had a family of chavs move in next door.