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President Obama asked to replace our bullet-riddled plaque


PRESIDENT Barack Obama is being urged to replace a bronze sign in Liddington used as target practice by American soldiers before the D-Day invasions.

Mike Pringle, director of Swindon Cultural Partnership, wrote to the president to notify him of an “interesting piece of history” which saw members of the 101st Airbourne Division shoot holes in the sign at Liddington Hill.

The ‘Easy Company’ paratroopers and soldiers, made famous in the television series Band of Brothers aired in 2001, were mostly stationed in Ramsbury and Aldbourne, near to where the sign remains today.

Dr Pringle (pictured above with the plaque) has sent his unusual request to replace the plaque, which bears the name of two of Swindon’s most famous sons – writers Richard Jefferies and Alfred Williams, In the letter he said: “Please believe me when I say we hold no negative thoughts about the sign being used as a target.

“On the contrary, we think it is quite amusing (and are impressed by some nice grouping in the lower right quadrant).

“We see a replacement sign as an opportunity for a really positive cross-Atlantic cultural gesture, if the United States would consider being involved in its creation. We imagine, for example, a sign that not only celebrates our historic writers, but also Swindon’s relationship with the USA during the Second World War.

“Perhaps the sign could include the famous 101st Screaming Eagle badge.”

He added that although it may not be a big deal for America it would be hugely significant to the people of Swindon.

“Today, we have strong ties with the US military through nearby airbases Lyneham and Fairford, and this small project will help us to cement that relationship even further while celebrating the different threads of our town’s fascinating history,” said Dr Pringle.

Richard Jefferies, who was born at Coate in 1848, was an English nature writer, noted for his depiction of English rural life. His novels include Bevis, in 1882, a classic children’s book, and After London, in 1885, an early work of science fiction.

Alfred Williams, born in 1877, was a self-taught poet, and wrote books including Life in a Railway Factory, in 1915, at night after completing a gruelling day’s work in the Great Western Railway works in Swindon.

He was nicknamed The Hammerman Poet.

Dr Pringle’s letter was also sent to Major General Campbell, Commanding General, 101st Airborne Division and the National Executive Secretary, 101st Airborne Division Association.

Comments(15)

Janais is back says...
10:51am Wed 9 Dec 09

"were mostly stationed in Ramsbury and Aldbourne, near to where the sign remains today"

A lovely story badly reported yet again.

The sign is inscribed 'Liddington Hill' - It would have been nice to have been informed by the intrepid reporter exactly where the sign was originally errected when it was shot and also why it is now 'near to Aldbourne & Ramsbury' - Did the reporter actually ask those basic questions?

Where exactly were the troops stationed at Liddington? Was there any connection with the Starfish decoy Control Bunker on Liddington Hill? ...... or indeed any connection with Liddington Casrle?

cannycat says...
11:09am Wed 9 Dec 09

Why replace it at all? Why not keep the bullet-marked one? It's such a nice piece of history as it is!

PaulD says...
11:14am Wed 9 Dec 09

I'm sure he's got nothing better to do!

and as said above - keep it as-is - it's historic

Bobfm says...
11:35am Wed 9 Dec 09

Gets him in the paper.

Advocatus Diaboli says...
11:43am Wed 9 Dec 09

cannycat wrote:
Why replace it at all? Why not keep the bullet-marked one? It's such a nice piece of history as it is!
I completely agree. Why wash away all that history by replacing it with a new plaque?

If we want to widen our relations with the olde US-of-A, maybe we could send Mr Pringle on an all expenses paid trip over there to take pot-shots at one of their memorials (“,)

Dirty Barry says...
12:28pm Wed 9 Dec 09

Mike Pringle should be ashamed of himself. American troops came over here and many gave their life to help us British win the war, but little did they know that many years later some disrespectful weasel like him would have the brazen cheek to write to the American president and ask that he replace a plague in his village that they used for target practice just before some no doubt went on their death, he is an embarrassment to the whole country and I fail to see the funny side.

Raef Barnes says...
1:47pm Wed 9 Dec 09

Absolutely agree with the other posters' comments, this sign shouldn't be replaced it's an historical gem!

What a complete and utter numpty this man must be.

Mr_Big says...
2:27pm Wed 9 Dec 09

The only bad plaque I can see is on Mike Pringle's teeth.

Always Grumpy says...
3:24pm Wed 9 Dec 09

I'm just wondering how much this muppet is paid. No doubt far too much for a 'non job'.
In light of news that savings need to be made I suggest he's disposed of at the earliest opportunity.

Raef Barnes says...
4:50pm Wed 9 Dec 09

I wonder if it's too late to write another letter to the US President and ask him to place Mike Pringle's letter in the nearest available shredder.

Or perhaps we could send a letter to the Italians asking them to rebuild that wall they built up north, as it's currently in a state of disrepair!!

itsamess says...
5:09pm Wed 9 Dec 09

Director of Swindon Cultural Partnership--yes another highly paid member of yet another partnership draining more from the local coffers. The americans had no interest in WW2 until the japs blitzed Pearl harbour--god knows what would have happened if John Wayne and Robert Mitchum were not winning all the battles--all would have been lost.

I Too says...
5:32pm Wed 9 Dec 09

A huge number of Canadian paratroopers also lost their lives at Arnhem (a bridge too far). They flew from Blakehill Farm, about the same distance as Liddington Hill, but to the north of Swindon. Is Mike going to ask Canada to re-tarmac the runways, since Swindon used them as hardcore for the M4?
Have to agree, the real story here would have been "where was the sign originally errected when it was shot and also why it is now 'near to Aldbourne & Ramsbury ?"

AGINGER says...
8:21am Thu 10 Dec 09

Mr Pringle, if the plaque in your hands is not on the OS marker where it was fixed and the President agrees to a replica,will you please hand the original over to Alfred Williams Kin who will be proud to display it for all to see in the village of his birth.
Posted by a Gt nephew.

Felix A says...
8:28am Thu 10 Dec 09

What a pity that you were only given half the story.

Not only was the plaque used as target practice but it was pulled off the mounting and discarded. It was found years later in a hedge and is now on display at the Richard Jefferies Museum.

The plaque was re-placed, but it was stolen again relatively recently.

It was originally mounted on the Trig point on Liddington Castle. J B Jones, a Swindon school-master, went to an inordinate amount of trouble to get permission to erect a memorial.

I, for one, am extrememly grateful to Mike Pringle for attempting to raise the profile of Richard Jefferies and Alfred Williams. Thank you Mr Pringle.

Bin There says...
5:36pm Thu 10 Dec 09

Well, now that we have the full story, it is a bit more interesting.
Shame The Adver didn't include these details.
Still don't see why the americans should pay for it, though they would probably appreciate the works of Jefferies a lot more than SBC will.
I hope it will be returned to its' rightful place now


Mike Pringle with the bullett riddled plaque Mike Pringle with the bullett riddled plaque

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