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Oxford blast Swindon over music survey


FIRST it was roundabouts, and now Swindon is facing a double assault on its reputation – this time through music.

Musicians, promoters and rock journalists in neighbouring Oxford have reacted with horror to a survey which failed to put the town in the top 20 musical cities, but which had progressive Swindon figuring at 13.

It was based on a survey by the Performing Right Society which calculated the number of musicians per head of population. Bristol topped the chart, while Oxford came 21st.

Among Oxford’s high profile bands are Stornoway, who played last year’s Glastonbury Festival.

They will release their first album, Beachcomber’s Windowsill, in May, but singer and guitarist, Brian Briggs is not impressed that Swindon is higher up in the musical pecking order.

He said: “I can’t believe it. Swindon isn’t exactly famous for its music scene, but I would have thought Oxford would have been on quite a few people’s key cities for music.”

Ronan Munro, the editor of Oxford’s independent music magazine Nightshift, said: “These things are worthless, and I don’t think anyone should take any notice of it.

“Oxford has great bands, great venues and great promoters. If you look at all the towns surrounding Oxford, including Swindon, Reading, and Northampton, none of them have anything like Oxford.

“Let people think what they want, we will just get on with producing great bands.”

Radiohead and Supergrass were both born in Oxford, while the city has also seen the rise of acts like Foals, Young Knives and The Epstein.

Venues which regularly play live music include the O2 Academy, the Regal, the Bullingdon, the Jericho, the Wheatsheaf, and the Cellar, with numerous others providing places for musicians to cut their teeth.

Philip Guy Davis, who runs a weekly blues night at the Bullingdon pub, said: “Oxford has a huge number of musicians and I think it’s ludicrous for it not to be in the top 20. Oxford is rock city, you can go to something every night.”

“There are a huge number of venues considering the size of the city and a huge number of bands as well.”

The Performing Right Society has 65,000 musicians on its books. A spokesman said: “Although Swindon may have just pipped Oxford in terms of musicians and composers per head of population, Oxford has still done extremely well and we’re sure will still continue to produce many excellent musicians.”

However, the survey has provoked the ire of Tim Hughes, the music editor at the Adver’s sister paper, the Oxford Mail, who said:“Remind me who Swindon have produced? XTC? Billie Piper?

“There is more musical talent in the average East Oxford street than the whole of Swindon put together!

“I don’t think anyone should take this kind of survey too seriously. To exclude Oxford from a list of musical cities is clearly a joke. Our reputation for producing amazing bands is second only to our fame as an academic centre.

“You can’t enter an Oxford pub without walking into at least half a dozen talented artists –many of whom are making waves around the UK and overseas.”

The music row comes after a newspaper in Hemel Hempstead compared one of its own roundabouts to Swindon’s legendary Magic Roundabout and dared to claim Hemel’s was better.

Comments(16)

gonefishin says...
8:33am Thu 18 Mar 10

The PRS is the enforcement arm of the music industry's protection racket. How they must love the publicity, it must help tremendously when they go out and about demanding money with menaces.

Scott Thunes says...
8:44am Thu 18 Mar 10

Stornoway? Who? Is that the best Poxford can come up with as a rebuttal?

Oxford has produced of note, Radiohead and Supergrass. Swindon XTC, erm Billie Piper, Rick Davies of Supertramp and Justin Hayward of The Moody Blues.

I'd probably call that a win in Swindon's favour. Just ;)

Is that you Lovesey says...
9:12am Thu 18 Mar 10

Who cares, how are Swindon going to produce quality talented musicians without a decent venue for them to play, the live scene in swindon sucks, its about time we had some decent music venues.... and lets face it Oxford just sucks....regardless of the music

Raef Barnes says...
9:41am Thu 18 Mar 10

What a very immature reaction to a meaningless survey. There are more important things to worry about than this.

I'd expect this reaction from a group of school children not Oxford Mail journalists.

The Woggler says...
9:52am Thu 18 Mar 10

So much for music being 'universal'.

Raef Barnes says...
9:58am Thu 18 Mar 10

Actually on reflection could someone tell that Oxford lot not to look at the football league standings too, poor little things. As they'll find Swindon currently in 48th position, and Oxford no where to be seen!

trustnopolitician says...
12:19pm Thu 18 Mar 10

Oxford = Conference standard

Swindon = Championship next season

don't need to say more

who dat? says...
12:37pm Thu 18 Mar 10

So this now the Oxford Advertiser - who gives a ++++!!

trustnopolitician says...
3:54pm Thu 18 Mar 10

I thought it was the Tories speaksheet

Captain T says...
4:02pm Thu 18 Mar 10

Working in Oxford at the moment, the only thing they've produced to date are traffic jams

I Too says...
5:41pm Thu 18 Mar 10

"FIRST it was roundabouts, and now Swindon is facing a double assault on its reputation
"
That's because it's a heritage wasting, flats ridden, history vandalising, developer coddling, cultural wasteland, devoid of civic pride, under the guidance of Swindon Borough Clownschool

gonefishin says...
6:16pm Thu 18 Mar 10

I Too wrote:
"FIRST it was roundabouts, and now Swindon is facing a double assault on its reputation " That's because it's a heritage wasting, flats ridden, history vandalising, developer coddling, cultural wasteland, devoid of civic pride, under the guidance of Swindon Borough Clownschool
Go on IT, don't be shy, tell us what you really think! :-))

lazarus says...
8:40am Fri 19 Mar 10

Funny how quickly this turned into and inter town grudge fest, I think that speaks volumes about what's really at the heart of this.

This "survey"just shows that if you set the right criteria you can make statistics show anything you like.

The Swindon music scene has admittedly taken a dip in the last year after some real moves forward with The Shuffle, the Radio One Big W/E and a general wave of activity, but in general it's moving forward.

I would say that despite a survey which is basically comparing the number of card carrying paid up proffesional musicians per capita (which is hard fact and not about music quality) nothing really changes. Let Swindon do it's thing and Oxford get on with their's and leave the inter town rivalry to the football crowd.

Both towns have great things happening, everyones a winner.

Pseudo says...
9:28am Fri 19 Mar 10

How come Oxford can approve expansion of its Oxford Brookes Uni and we cannot get our own of the ground?

lazarus says...
9:52am Fri 19 Mar 10

I also need to add that if you actually read how the survey was conducted and what it actually represents, the author of this Oxford rant has totally missed the point. It's not about quality, sales, profile or even aimed at just contemporary music. He also forgot to add "neer neer nee neer neer" and "my dad's bigger than your dad" in his quite miss placed response.

RockerbillyBob says...
11:50pm Fri 19 Mar 10

"Oxford have reacted with horror to a survey which failed to put the town in the top 20 musical cities"

Oh dear. Dave King, what a silly boy you are. You started your article by stating that Oxford is a town. I think you will find that Oxford is a city with one of the finest Universities in the world.

In the same sentence you state Oxford failed to be put in the top 20 musical cities.

So how can Swindon (which is a town) Be in put in a list of the top 20 musical cities.

Swindon is a town that wants to be a city. Have we a world class university which dates back nearly 1000 years? I dont think so.

I think you need to take a trip to Oxford ( which is still a city) Maybe you could go back to university, if you ever went in the first place.

This article was very poor. Shame on you.


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