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Calls for better signs after TV man’s death


A coroner has called on highway chiefs to put up more warning signs on a dangerous Cotswolds road bend where a talented TV picture editor died in a motorcycle accident.

Wayne Southern, of Winterbourne Road, Swindon, was just 29 when he lost control of his powerful Honda bike while out on a social ride with four friends, and collided with a car travelling in the opposite direction near Cirencester.

After an accidental death verdict was recorded at his inquest in Gloucester yesterday, his parents Pete and Rose Southern said: “Never a day goes by when we do not miss our lovely son Wayne.

“No parent should have to outlive their own child and no words can express how much we miss him and how much we hope and pray he will one day walk back in through our door – even though we know that will never happen.

“We cannot begin to express what a loving, charming, funny and kind man he was. He was a never-ending source of pride to us, his sister and to all our family and friends.

“He made us laugh and he made us feel loved. Today he should have counting the days until his wedding to his fiancee Claire.

“We would like to express our thanks to the police and the Coroner and his team and also all the emergency services who attended the accident.

“We came here today hoping for answers but the one answer we really want we will never know – why our son had to leave us – why he had to have that terrible accident.

“Finally, we would like to ask all motorcycle riders to think about Wayne, to think about what happened to him and to take just that little bit of extra care.

“We don’t want your parents to have to stand where we stand now.”

Former colleague from Central News Simon Garrett said: “Ours is a business that can be quite bitchy but Wayne was one of those rare people everybody loved.

“He was also an outstandingly talented young man - one of the best picture editors making TV programmes in Britain at the time of his death.

“He had worked on numerous programmes for Sky and the BBC as well as for ITV and he was enormously popular with everyone, charming and funny. He is greatly missed by all who knew him.”

Gloucestershire Coroner Alan Crickmore heard that Mr Southern had passed his motorcycle test only a few months before his death but was said to have been a natural rider.

On the day he died, May 4th 2009, he and his four friends had met near Swindon and were riding to Chipping Norton, travelling north along the A435 near North Cerney, just outside Cirencester.

Mr Southern lost control of his Honda CBR600 on a sharp bend and collided with a Volvo estate being driven in the opposite direction by Sally Anne Hardwicke.

Accident investigator Pc Simon Edwards said from marks on the road surface, it appeared that Mr Southern had braked too hard in the bend and the front wheel of his bike had skidded so that it fell onto its side and slid across into the opposite carriageway.

He had been riding at about 50 miles an hour, within the speed limit, Pc Edwards said but the car was doing the same speed and so their approach speed had been about 100 miles an hour.

He added that the bikers had been riding too close together so that when Mr Southern crashed, two of the others also became involved.

Mr Crickmore was told that Mr Southern died from multiple injuries and no alcohol or drugs was found in his system.

Summing up, he said it seemed likely that Mr Southern had been confronted by a bend that was sharper than he was expecting and if the warning signs had been better, he may have ridden differently.

Recording a verdict of accidental death, he said in his opinion, there were insufficient warning signs on the approach to the bend and he would send a report to the Highways Authority saying more should be put up.

Comments(17)

politicrat says...
10:44am Thu 18 Mar 10

The guy was inexperienced having passed his test only 2 months prior to the accident, why are motorcyclists exempt from displaying "new driver" sign.
The group didnt keep their distances either.
You can put up more signs and spend millions unfortunately you will always have the usual show offs thinking they know better.
Luckily it wasnt a cyclist or another motorbike that collided with the deceased.

Another Pedantic Swindonian says...
11:17am Thu 18 Mar 10

Once again politicrat wades in with inappropriate comments!

The poor guy lost his life, riding within the speed limit, but on a road that had insufficient markings or signage to warn of the sharp bend!

Have a heart, politicrat (if you know what a heart is!) and keep your narrowmindedness to yourself!

RIP Wayne. Gone too soon...
xx

politicrat says...
11:26am Thu 18 Mar 10

Another Pedantic Swindonian wrote:
Once again politicrat wades in with inappropriate comments! The poor guy lost his life, riding within the speed limit, but on a road that had insufficient markings or signage to warn of the sharp bend! Have a heart, politicrat (if you know what a heart is!) and keep your narrowmindedness to yourself! RIP Wayne. Gone too soon... xx
can you honestly say that you would have the same opinion if the victim had been a teenager losing control of his car, having passed the driving test just 2 months earlier? and his mates driving too close to each others had also crashed.
be honest!

mutleyp says...
11:44am Thu 18 Mar 10

Politicrat, As a family member i can tell you that he had passed his test 8 months before the accident not 2 months, so first of all read the article properly! and if you had read the article properly, you would have seen that he was riding at 50MPH which is well within the speed limit and that he was not "showing off". If you actually go to the accident site you will see there is inadequate signage for the severity of the bend, I just hope your family doesn't have to suffer a tragic accident like this and you don't get mindless idiots writing comments when they do not know the full facts of the case. RIP Wayne, you will never be forgotten xx

R Dave S says...
11:49am Thu 18 Mar 10

politicrat wrote:
The guy was inexperienced having passed his test only 2 months prior to the accident, why are motorcyclists exempt from displaying "new driver" sign. The group didnt keep their distances either. You can put up more signs and spend millions unfortunately you will always have the usual show offs thinking they know better. Luckily it wasnt a cyclist or another motorbike that collided with the deceased.
You're an absolute idiot, and I'm being polite!

Wayne was killed in May. He passed is test in November I believe, from memory of what he told me. I believe that's six months. He also drove a car so why should he and new riders wear these 'new driver' signs you refer to, but more importantly, that would not have made a slight bit of difference in prevently this terrible accident would it? How would that have prevented it?
I was out on my bike with Wayne 2 weeks before his death and he was a very good rider, as the article explains. It also states he was not at fault for this and he was riding within the speed limit so to indirectly suggest he's one of these 'show off's' is very disrepectful to his family and everyone else.
My only questions would be why has it taken this accident for everyone to realise that this sharp bend needed warning signs on? There have been accidents there before. Why has it also taken 10 months to say 'We'll recommend signs be put up'? Surely this should have been done straight after the incident! I visited this corner after the accident and it's obvious it will catch vehicles out (especially bikes as they are much harder to control than cars) even if they are within the speed limit, as Wayne was.
PolitiTWAT more like. Dis-respectful idiot!
RIP. Wayner

Another Pedantic Swindonian says...
11:52am Thu 18 Mar 10

Yes I would, politicrat, as if the road is badly signposted ANYONE can crash on it!

I do however agree with you that there was no need for the 2nd and 3rd riders to crash into him as they should have been far enough back to have stopped in time...

(I can't believe I'm agreeing with you on something politicrat!)

politicrat says...
11:58am Thu 18 Mar 10

R Dave S wrote:
politicrat wrote: The guy was inexperienced having passed his test only 2 months prior to the accident, why are motorcyclists exempt from displaying "new driver" sign. The group didnt keep their distances either. You can put up more signs and spend millions unfortunately you will always have the usual show offs thinking they know better. Luckily it wasnt a cyclist or another motorbike that collided with the deceased.
You're an absolute idiot, and I'm being polite! Wayne was killed in May. He passed is test in November I believe, from memory of what he told me. I believe that's six months. He also drove a car so why should he and new riders wear these 'new driver' signs you refer to, but more importantly, that would not have made a slight bit of difference in prevently this terrible accident would it? How would that have prevented it? I was out on my bike with Wayne 2 weeks before his death and he was a very good rider, as the article explains. It also states he was not at fault for this and he was riding within the speed limit so to indirectly suggest he's one of these 'show off's' is very disrepectful to his family and everyone else. My only questions would be why has it taken this accident for everyone to realise that this sharp bend needed warning signs on? There have been accidents there before. Why has it also taken 10 months to say 'We'll recommend signs be put up'? Surely this should have been done straight after the incident! I visited this corner after the accident and it's obvious it will catch vehicles out (especially bikes as they are much harder to control than cars) even if they are within the speed limit, as Wayne was. PolitiTWAT more like. Dis-respectful idiot! RIP. Wayner
You can call me what you like!, I am not insulting anyone, every accident is a tragedy however and to go back to the subject, when approaching bends, intersections, roundabouts, drivers are required to adjust their speed and approach with caution.
I am not being funny here, you can put up all the signs in the world on the roads and make them more confusing as already are, it wont replace good old common sense.
I am sure I will be pilloried regardless, so feel free to insult me if that make you feel better.

R Dave S says...
11:59am Thu 18 Mar 10

mutleyp wrote:
Politicrat, As a family member i can tell you that he had passed his test 8 months before the accident not 2 months, so first of all read the article properly! and if you had read the article properly, you would have seen that he was riding at 50MPH which is well within the speed limit and that he was not "showing off". If you actually go to the accident site you will see there is inadequate signage for the severity of the bend, I just hope your family doesn't have to suffer a tragic accident like this and you don't get mindless idiots writing comments when they do not know the full facts of the case. RIP Wayne, you will never be forgotten xx
This artcle wasn't up when I posted mine hence my guess of 6 months - it was actually 8 after all. I would say that's not a 'new rider'.

To be clear, in my previous comments, my 'why has it taken 10 months for the signs to be recommended' was not aimed at the family in anyway, in case anyone gets the wrong end of the stick here.

politicrat says...
12:11pm Thu 18 Mar 10

mutleyp wrote:
Politicrat, As a family member i can tell you that he had passed his test 8 months before the accident not 2 months, so first of all read the article properly! and if you had read the article properly, you would have seen that he was riding at 50MPH which is well within the speed limit and that he was not "showing off". If you actually go to the accident site you will see there is inadequate signage for the severity of the bend, I just hope your family doesn't have to suffer a tragic accident like this and you don't get mindless idiots writing comments when they do not know the full facts of the case. RIP Wayne, you will never be forgotten xx
My apologies if I have come accross as insensitive, it wasn't my intention
I am a former motorcyclist and I speak of experience, I have myself come many times close to losing control of my bike, and on one occasion I realised how too dangerous riding a bike is, I put it in the garage and never used it again that was 12 years ago. On a bike, there is no "safety net", an error, a mistake even minute and even not of your own is too heavy and immediate.
I didnt mean to be offensive in my comment.

R Dave S says...
12:18pm Thu 18 Mar 10

politicrat wrote:
R Dave S wrote:
politicrat wrote: The guy was inexperienced having passed his test only 2 months prior to the accident, why are motorcyclists exempt from displaying "new driver" sign. The group didnt keep their distances either. You can put up more signs and spend millions unfortunately you will always have the usual show offs thinking they know better. Luckily it wasnt a cyclist or another motorbike that collided with the deceased.
You're an absolute idiot, and I'm being polite! Wayne was killed in May. He passed is test in November I believe, from memory of what he told me. I believe that's six months. He also drove a car so why should he and new riders wear these 'new driver' signs you refer to, but more importantly, that would not have made a slight bit of difference in prevently this terrible accident would it? How would that have prevented it? I was out on my bike with Wayne 2 weeks before his death and he was a very good rider, as the article explains. It also states he was not at fault for this and he was riding within the speed limit so to indirectly suggest he's one of these 'show off's' is very disrepectful to his family and everyone else. My only questions would be why has it taken this accident for everyone to realise that this sharp bend needed warning signs on? There have been accidents there before. Why has it also taken 10 months to say 'We'll recommend signs be put up'? Surely this should have been done straight after the incident! I visited this corner after the accident and it's obvious it will catch vehicles out (especially bikes as they are much harder to control than cars) even if they are within the speed limit, as Wayne was. PolitiTWAT more like. Dis-respectful idiot! RIP. Wayner
You can call me what you like!, I am not insulting anyone, every accident is a tragedy however and to go back to the subject, when approaching bends, intersections, roundabouts, drivers are required to adjust their speed and approach with caution. I am not being funny here, you can put up all the signs in the world on the roads and make them more confusing as already are, it wont replace good old common sense. I am sure I will be pilloried regardless, so feel free to insult me if that make you feel better.
What? Warning signs are confusing are they? You're a moron. I agree that people have to adjust their speeds for the bends and also use common sense; Wayne was - he was riding within the speed limit!! The coroner has concluded that there is insufficient signage on this bend and that was likely the reason why Wayne was taken by suprise and didn't make the corner. You're not insulting anyone eh? Your careless comments suggesting he may have been showing off are insulting!

Bobfm says...
12:20pm Thu 18 Mar 10

As a former police motorcyclist, I have no hesitation or embarrassment in saying I came off my police bike several times.

It can happen to anyone, however I would agree that motor cyclists riding in convoy too close together is not a wise decision, rapid breaking no matter how good a rider you are can be potentially fatal, sadly as in this case.

R Dave S says...
12:23pm Thu 18 Mar 10

politicrat wrote:
mutleyp wrote: Politicrat, As a family member i can tell you that he had passed his test 8 months before the accident not 2 months, so first of all read the article properly! and if you had read the article properly, you would have seen that he was riding at 50MPH which is well within the speed limit and that he was not "showing off". If you actually go to the accident site you will see there is inadequate signage for the severity of the bend, I just hope your family doesn't have to suffer a tragic accident like this and you don't get mindless idiots writing comments when they do not know the full facts of the case. RIP Wayne, you will never be forgotten xx
My apologies if I have come accross as insensitive, it wasn't my intention I am a former motorcyclist and I speak of experience, I have myself come many times close to losing control of my bike, and on one occasion I realised how too dangerous riding a bike is, I put it in the garage and never used it again that was 12 years ago. On a bike, there is no "safety net", an error, a mistake even minute and even not of your own is too heavy and immediate. I didnt mean to be offensive in my comment.
Again, this wasn't up when I posted my last reply.

I'm sure your apology is appreciate by all. It's just a case of being a bit more sensitive and thinking before you post these things on such a delicate subject.

Gooey says...
2:00pm Thu 18 Mar 10

Motorbikes are dangerous.Even the most carefull riders can be killed,and are killed.I've told my son i will never allow him a bike.Far to many people are killed on them.A lad who was in my class at school was killed on his bike, and i dont know of a single person who hasn't fallen off theirs at one time or another.
I really feel for the family, and think policrats comments are a disgrace.

forcryingoutloud says...
2:50pm Thu 18 Mar 10

So you've all met the infamous Poliprat!
I would recommend advanced riding lessons to all motorcyclists. The police do good ones free! They teach defensive driving so that other peoples mistakes do not take you out. They teach you always to control your speed so that you can stop within the distance you can see, and much much more. Perhaps if dear Wayne had taken an advanced course he just might have survived. I have taken two, both with ex-police riders and they are great fun and have saved my skin more than once. Condolences and sympathy to Waynes family and friends.

politicrat says...
3:03pm Thu 18 Mar 10

forcryingoutloud wrote:
So you've all met the infamous Poliprat! I would recommend advanced riding lessons to all motorcyclists. The police do good ones free! They teach defensive driving so that other peoples mistakes do not take you out. They teach you always to control your speed so that you can stop within the distance you can see, and much much more. Perhaps if dear Wayne had taken an advanced course he just might have survived. I have taken two, both with ex-police riders and they are great fun and have saved my skin more than once. Condolences and sympathy to Waynes family and friends.
It is Politicrat by the way....

Robh says...
4:21pm Thu 18 Mar 10

Another case where everyone talks about the speed being within the speed limit. It might have been but obviously the rider was driving beyond his limit no matter what the speed was.

I was always taught to drive to the road conditions I can see not the signs or speed limits.

Sadly with motorcycles there is no second chance or leeway. Fortunately the following motorcyclists were able to survive even thogh their driving was probably just as bad.

I Too says...
5:31pm Thu 18 Mar 10

The modern motorcycle test is significantly more involved and difficult to pass than the current car driving test.
To suggest that all motorcyclists should do an "advanced course" is totally pathetic.
See what is involved, in merely obtaining a motorcycle license, then make informed comments.
It has been stated, many times that the rider was NOT riding badly. I will trust the verdict of the coroner, over the bigoted views of the anti bike brigade.
Last Sunday I rode alongside thousands of other bikers, at close quarters, not so much as a clipped handlebar. The same evening, whilst driving the car to Cirencester, another driver clipped our car, at well over a ton (estimate) spun around in front of us,, mounted the bank, returned to the road, and rolled over.
Cause of accident? a tyre blow out? NO.
Heavy traffic? NO
Just rubbish driving, alcohol, lack of due care and attention? Who knows?
The difference is, I'm not going to assume that EVERY car driver does that.


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