Swindon turns Blue as Labour suffer double dose of defeat

Swindon's two new conservative MP's Justin Tomlinson and Robert Buckland.

Swindon's two new conservative MP's Justin Tomlinson and Robert Buckland.

First published in News by

VOTERS in Swindon performed a dramatic U-turn last night as both the town's seats went to the Tories.

Justin Tomlinson swung to a comfortable lead in the North and Robert Buckland had a smaller win in the South.

Ever since the constituency was split in two back in 1997 it has always been held by two Labour MPs.

The news echoes the national picture, where former Labour strongholds are being taken either by the Conservatives or Lib Dems.

Former Swindon South MP Anne Snelgrove looked visibly upset as she lost the seat she had taken from her Labour predecessor Julia Drown at the last election in 2005.

The count in Swindon went right down to the wire in the early hours of this morning with several wards being recounted for various reasons.

The count in Swindon went right down to the wire in the early hours of this morning with several wards being recounted for various reasons.

The Oasis leisure centre was a hive of activity with hundreds of people clamouring over one another to find out what had happened.

Before the Swindon constituency was split in 1997, it had a balanced number of both Labour and Tory MP's.

Many have put Justin Tomlinson's substantial win down to the fact that Labour stalwart Michael Wills, who held the North Swindon seat for 13 years, stood down his year and handed the baton to new boy Victor Agarwal.

At the beginning of the count many thought Anne Snelgrove would maintain a majority in the South seat and secure another term, but as the evening wore on the rumours began circulating that Swindon had gone blue.

Originally, it was expected the Swindon seats would be declared by 2am, but it wasn't until 4.15am when the Swindon South seat was claimed by Robert Buckland and half an hour later, Justin Tomlinson was toasting victory for the Conservatives.

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6:04am Fri 7 May 10

Captain Sensible says...

May I be the first to congratulate the odious Snelgrove woman on her loss.
May I be the first to congratulate the odious Snelgrove woman on her loss. Captain Sensible
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6:16am Fri 7 May 10

Taffynut says...

Bye bye Anne, your P45 is on your desk
Bye bye Anne, your P45 is on your desk Taffynut
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7:07am Fri 7 May 10

Pseudo says...

Taffynut wrote:
Bye bye Anne, your P45 is on your desk
Along with her severance pay and pension so don't feel too sorry for her.
[quote][p][bold]Taffynut[/bold] wrote: Bye bye Anne, your P45 is on your desk[/p][/quote]Along with her severance pay and pension so don't feel too sorry for her. Pseudo
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7:16am Fri 7 May 10

Bobfm says...

Well done to Justin and Rob. As for Anne, she will no doubt now be heading for the House of Lords, payback for being loyal to the Labour Party, if not Swindon.

I would also like to congratulate both UKIP candidates who substantially increased their shares of the vote and finish in fourth place.

Given how late Robin Tingey came into the election race, securing 4.3% of the vote was a great achievement.
Well done to Justin and Rob. As for Anne, she will no doubt now be heading for the House of Lords, payback for being loyal to the Labour Party, if not Swindon. I would also like to congratulate both UKIP candidates who substantially increased their shares of the vote and finish in fourth place. Given how late Robin Tingey came into the election race, securing 4.3% of the vote was a great achievement. Bobfm
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7:34am Fri 7 May 10

real -life says...

Before we start with the congratulations, let wait and see what they really achieve. The words frying pan and fire come to mind. We all heralded "New Labour" in 97 and look what they did for us, so I will save any celebrations for when there is something to actually celebrate.
Before we start with the congratulations, let wait and see what they really achieve. The words frying pan and fire come to mind. We all heralded "New Labour" in 97 and look what they did for us, so I will save any celebrations for when there is something to actually celebrate. real -life
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7:46am Fri 7 May 10

Bobfm says...

real -life, not all of us heralded NL, I had already lived through a Labour Government what happened was so predictable, as history shows.

Presented with one of the strongest economies in the Western world they wrecked it. Again history will show that the financial crisis will be their excuse, growing the welfare state and it's massive 8 million public sector will of course be the real reason.
real -life, not all of us heralded NL, I had already lived through a Labour Government what happened was so predictable, as history shows. Presented with one of the strongest economies in the Western world they wrecked it. Again history will show that the financial crisis will be their excuse, growing the welfare state and it's massive 8 million public sector will of course be the real reason. Bobfm
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7:59am Fri 7 May 10

The Real Librarian says...

Bobfm wrote:
real -life, not all of us heralded NL, I had already lived through a Labour Government what happened was so predictable, as history shows. Presented with one of the strongest economies in the Western world they wrecked it. Again history will show that the financial crisis will be their excuse, growing the welfare state and it's massive 8 million public sector will of course be the real reason.
Agreed. I did not heral New Labour. I was sure that their time in government would be a disaster, and that is exactly what has happened.
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For a start Labour are financially incontinent. They simply cannot stop spending other people's money.

The last time we let Labour loose on the economy it ended in disaster, bankruptcy and bailout by the IMF.

This time we let Labour loose on the economy it has ending in disaster, technical bankruptcy and if we don't have to be bailed out by the IMF again, I will be stunned.
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Apart from their inability to manage the economy, they are no good at governing responsibly. That is why we launched two illegal wars costing hundreds of thousands of lives and billions of pounds.
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Overall, Labour are not fit to be trusted with the responsibility of looking after a pet rabbit, never mind a country.
[quote][p][bold]Bobfm[/bold] wrote: real -life, not all of us heralded NL, I had already lived through a Labour Government what happened was so predictable, as history shows. Presented with one of the strongest economies in the Western world they wrecked it. Again history will show that the financial crisis will be their excuse, growing the welfare state and it's massive 8 million public sector will of course be the real reason.[/p][/quote]Agreed. I did not heral New Labour. I was sure that their time in government would be a disaster, and that is exactly what has happened. . For a start Labour are financially incontinent. They simply cannot stop spending other people's money. The last time we let Labour loose on the economy it ended in disaster, bankruptcy and bailout by the IMF. This time we let Labour loose on the economy it has ending in disaster, technical bankruptcy and if we don't have to be bailed out by the IMF again, I will be stunned. . Apart from their inability to manage the economy, they are no good at governing responsibly. That is why we launched two illegal wars costing hundreds of thousands of lives and billions of pounds. . Overall, Labour are not fit to be trusted with the responsibility of looking after a pet rabbit, never mind a country. The Real Librarian
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8:01am Fri 7 May 10

The Real Librarian says...

I am very glad to read this news today.
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I became very angry with Anne Snelgrove a couple of years ago.
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I wrote to her about the news that 'Investigatory Powers,' designed to fight terrorism were being hugely misused. This followed stories that councils were using surveilance to check if people had lied about addresses on school applications and similar abuses. Anne Snelgrove's response was disgustingly complacent in the extreme, and consisted of reminding me that some of the Councils misusing these powers were Tory held. She seemed to be under the impression that this was an adiquate response.
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I wrote back to Ms Snelgrove telling her that I found her response complacent, stupid and frankly pathetic. I also told her that once the next election came round, I would be playing my small part in getting her out.
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Today is a good day. Even the adver agree. The security word is yeah-rule
I am very glad to read this news today. . I became very angry with Anne Snelgrove a couple of years ago. . I wrote to her about the news that 'Investigatory Powers,' designed to fight terrorism were being hugely misused. This followed stories that councils were using surveilance to check if people had lied about addresses on school applications and similar abuses. Anne Snelgrove's response was disgustingly complacent in the extreme, and consisted of reminding me that some of the Councils misusing these powers were Tory held. She seemed to be under the impression that this was an adiquate response. . I wrote back to Ms Snelgrove telling her that I found her response complacent, stupid and frankly pathetic. I also told her that once the next election came round, I would be playing my small part in getting her out. . Today is a good day. Even the adver agree. The security word is yeah-rule The Real Librarian
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8:21am Fri 7 May 10

HarryPotter says...

I just wish I was there to witness the arrogant Anne Snelgrove in tears after her loss...Good Riddance to bad rubbish Anne....I dont wish you well and hope you have learnt that we do have a voice even if you block our e mails from your office....you did nothing for me in my hour of need and I want nothing for you....good riddance
I just wish I was there to witness the arrogant Anne Snelgrove in tears after her loss...Good Riddance to bad rubbish Anne....I dont wish you well and hope you have learnt that we do have a voice even if you block our e mails from your office....you did nothing for me in my hour of need and I want nothing for you....good riddance HarryPotter
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8:23am Fri 7 May 10

scottwichall says...

Congratulations to Justin, well done, and don't forget our referendum on Europe.

The Lisbon Treaty is up for re-ratification, so now is the opportunity to give us the referendum Mr Cameron gave us a cast iron promise on.
http://www.europarl.
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Congratulations to Justin, well done, and don't forget our referendum on Europe. The Lisbon Treaty is up for re-ratification, so now is the opportunity to give us the referendum Mr Cameron gave us a cast iron promise on. http://www.europarl. europa.eu/news/exper t/infopress_page/008 -72195-096-04-15-901 -20100406IPR72162-06 -04-2010-2010-false/ default_en.htm scottwichall
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8:26am Fri 7 May 10

politicrat says...

My fellow Britons have learnt nothing, but I hope this time, they will learn the hard way......it is going to be a high price to pay for stupidity
My fellow Britons have learnt nothing, but I hope this time, they will learn the hard way......it is going to be a high price to pay for stupidity politicrat
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8:26am Fri 7 May 10

redtilldead says...

Some very bitter comments so far, let's congratulate the tories for their partial success.

I still feel though that Cameron has missed an open goal from six yards out. Never have the tories had a better chance of winning an election, even trying to revive thatcher's image of "change" she called for in 1979.

Yes the labour government hasn't done enough to differentiate itself from the tories but I for one don't want to be ruled by the corrupt Eton Maffia.

Being born and bred in Swindon I know just what a bunch of snobs Swindonians are and the results in Swindon prove it.

Conservative - Change = oxymoron. You have to be a moron to believe that.
Some very bitter comments so far, let's congratulate the tories for their partial success. I still feel though that Cameron has missed an open goal from six yards out. Never have the tories had a better chance of winning an election, even trying to revive thatcher's image of "change" she called for in 1979. Yes the labour government hasn't done enough to differentiate itself from the tories but I for one don't want to be ruled by the corrupt Eton Maffia. Being born and bred in Swindon I know just what a bunch of snobs Swindonians are and the results in Swindon prove it. Conservative - Change = oxymoron. You have to be a moron to believe that. redtilldead
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8:27am Fri 7 May 10

redtilldead says...

Some very bitter comments so far, let's congratulate the tories for their partial success.

I still feel though that Cameron has missed an open goal from six yards out. Never have the tories had a better chance of winning an election, even trying to revive thatcher's image of "change" she called for in 1979.

Yes the labour government hasn't done enough to differentiate itself from the tories but I for one don't want to be ruled by the corrupt Eton Maffia.

Being born and bred in Swindon I know just what a bunch of snobs Swindonians are and the results in Swindon prove it.

Conservative - Change = oxymoron. You have to be a moron to believe that.
Some very bitter comments so far, let's congratulate the tories for their partial success. I still feel though that Cameron has missed an open goal from six yards out. Never have the tories had a better chance of winning an election, even trying to revive thatcher's image of "change" she called for in 1979. Yes the labour government hasn't done enough to differentiate itself from the tories but I for one don't want to be ruled by the corrupt Eton Maffia. Being born and bred in Swindon I know just what a bunch of snobs Swindonians are and the results in Swindon prove it. Conservative - Change = oxymoron. You have to be a moron to believe that. redtilldead
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8:35am Fri 7 May 10

Pseudo says...

Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour
Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour Pseudo
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8:44am Fri 7 May 10

Mr Blackwell says...

Congratulations to Messers Tomlinson and Buckland.
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It's not usually pleasant to see people in distress, but I'll make an exception in the case of Anne Snelgrove. Sadly, as others have mentioned, her years of brown nosing will ensure she's rewarded in a role that hands her yet more of our money.
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Swindon has spoken: Labour is not welcome here.
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Now, where's good old Donkey? I can't wait to hear what he has to say about this decimation of Labour in both Swindon wards.
Congratulations to Messers Tomlinson and Buckland. . It's not usually pleasant to see people in distress, but I'll make an exception in the case of Anne Snelgrove. Sadly, as others have mentioned, her years of brown nosing will ensure she's rewarded in a role that hands her yet more of our money. . Swindon has spoken: Labour is not welcome here. . Now, where's good old Donkey? I can't wait to hear what he has to say about this decimation of Labour in both Swindon wards. Mr Blackwell
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8:48am Fri 7 May 10

Bobfm says...

scottwichall. I think you have misunderstood the link you posted. There will be no revisit of the treaty, the vote of MEP's will be to re-affirm what was already included in the treaty that of more MEP's.

I of course wish we could revisit it but it is too late. It is enshrined in EU law.
scottwichall. I think you have misunderstood the link you posted. There will be no revisit of the treaty, the vote of MEP's will be to re-affirm what was already included in the treaty that of more MEP's. I of course wish we could revisit it but it is too late. It is enshrined in EU law. Bobfm
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8:53am Fri 7 May 10

redtilldead says...

Pseudo wrote:
Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour
You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government.

A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.
[quote][p][bold]Pseudo[/bold] wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour[/p][/quote]You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered. redtilldead
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8:56am Fri 7 May 10

politicrat says...

redtilldead wrote:
Pseudo wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour
You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.
change was on offer, but Brits voted cowardly.
Now we all have to bear responsability for the storm coming our way.
[quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pseudo[/bold] wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour[/p][/quote]You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.[/p][/quote]change was on offer, but Brits voted cowardly. Now we all have to bear responsability for the storm coming our way. politicrat
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9:01am Fri 7 May 10

EmmBee says...

I was pleased to see Robert Buckland's campaigning leaflet stating that he would be "working in London working for Swindon". I cannot honestly say what Anne Snelgrove has done for the average Swindon resident (unless you count intervention for the bloke who got stuck in the Phillipines with his pregnant girlfriend....). I was itching for her to come knocking for my vote, so I could call my girlfriend to the door and say "I just wanted you to see an ex-MP". Good riddance, and I hope to see better things from our new representative.
I was pleased to see Robert Buckland's campaigning leaflet stating that he would be "working in London working for Swindon". I cannot honestly say what Anne Snelgrove has done for the average Swindon resident (unless you count intervention for the bloke who got stuck in the Phillipines with his pregnant girlfriend....). I was itching for her to come knocking for my vote, so I could call my girlfriend to the door and say "I just wanted you to see an ex-MP". Good riddance, and I hope to see better things from our new representative. EmmBee
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9:04am Fri 7 May 10

Pseudo says...

redtilldead wrote:
Pseudo wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour
You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.
More people have voted Conservative than Labour or are you still trying to claim some sort of twisted victory?
[quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pseudo[/bold] wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour[/p][/quote]You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.[/p][/quote]More people have voted Conservative than Labour or are you still trying to claim some sort of twisted victory? Pseudo
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9:12am Fri 7 May 10

real -life says...

The real problem is that most voters dont have the first clue what they are actually voting for. How many have actually read the manifestos? Labour bring the country to the brink of bankruptcy and yet still millions of people vote for them! The Lb Dems want to take us into the Euro (obviously they have never heard of Greece!) and reward over a million illegal immigrants with citizenship for breaking our laws (and then bring in another couple of million relatives) and the Conservatives havent actually said what they will do just how bad everyone else is. I hope that whoever does form a government does some real good instead of just trying to score points of the other parties and feather their own nests as we have seen in previous years. Not holding my breath. Isee the financial markets are already going down!
The real problem is that most voters dont have the first clue what they are actually voting for. How many have actually read the manifestos? Labour bring the country to the brink of bankruptcy and yet still millions of people vote for them! The Lb Dems want to take us into the Euro (obviously they have never heard of Greece!) and reward over a million illegal immigrants with citizenship for breaking our laws (and then bring in another couple of million relatives) and the Conservatives havent actually said what they will do just how bad everyone else is. I hope that whoever does form a government does some real good instead of just trying to score points of the other parties and feather their own nests as we have seen in previous years. Not holding my breath. Isee the financial markets are already going down! real -life
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9:12am Fri 7 May 10

politicrat says...

Pseudo wrote:
redtilldead wrote:
Pseudo wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour
You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.
More people have voted Conservative than Labour or are you still trying to claim some sort of twisted victory?
1- people have voted for the lesser of 2 evils
2- Murdoch and Lord Ashcroft are the real rulers of this country.
Swindon people and britons in general are too dumb to realise these facts.
United Kingdom of Idiots!
[quote][p][bold]Pseudo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pseudo[/bold] wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour[/p][/quote]You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.[/p][/quote]More people have voted Conservative than Labour or are you still trying to claim some sort of twisted victory?[/p][/quote]1- people have voted for the lesser of 2 evils 2- Murdoch and Lord Ashcroft are the real rulers of this country. Swindon people and britons in general are too dumb to realise these facts. United Kingdom of Idiots! politicrat
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9:13am Fri 7 May 10

redtilldead says...

politicrat wrote:
redtilldead wrote:
Pseudo wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour
You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.
change was on offer, but Brits voted cowardly.
Now we all have to bear responsability for the storm coming our way.
I don't disagree with your sentiments in some respect.

The fact is the UK doesn't want the Eton Rifles and a rag bag of failed management consultants, a la William Hague, doing the changes for them.

Cameron doesn't ooze change he oozes priviledge and class distinction, a change we don't want.

I remember yo-yoing interest rates, text books being shared in school classes. Things effect the vast majority not the few who think they know best.

The tories need a real leader not a chinless wonder.
[quote][p][bold]politicrat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pseudo[/bold] wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour[/p][/quote]You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.[/p][/quote]change was on offer, but Brits voted cowardly. Now we all have to bear responsability for the storm coming our way.[/p][/quote]I don't disagree with your sentiments in some respect. The fact is the UK doesn't want the Eton Rifles and a rag bag of failed management consultants, a la William Hague, doing the changes for them. Cameron doesn't ooze change he oozes priviledge and class distinction, a change we don't want. I remember yo-yoing interest rates, text books being shared in school classes. Things effect the vast majority not the few who think they know best. The tories need a real leader not a chinless wonder. redtilldead
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9:22am Fri 7 May 10

redtilldead says...

Pseudo wrote:
redtilldead wrote:
Pseudo wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour
You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.
More people have voted Conservative than Labour or are you still trying to claim some sort of twisted victory?
You are an accountant aren't you. Great letters for scrabble!

Read your history and you'll learn thats how the system works and the tories have got in in similar cicumstances in the past.

The twisted victory - Cameron being proved to be useless. Tell me, shouldn't he have won outright if he was an use?
[quote][p][bold]Pseudo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pseudo[/bold] wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour[/p][/quote]You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.[/p][/quote]More people have voted Conservative than Labour or are you still trying to claim some sort of twisted victory?[/p][/quote]You are an accountant aren't you. Great letters for scrabble! Read your history and you'll learn thats how the system works and the tories have got in in similar cicumstances in the past. The twisted victory - Cameron being proved to be useless. Tell me, shouldn't he have won outright if he was an use? redtilldead
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9:25am Fri 7 May 10

politicrat says...

redtilldead wrote:
politicrat wrote:
redtilldead wrote:
Pseudo wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour
You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.
change was on offer, but Brits voted cowardly. Now we all have to bear responsability for the storm coming our way.
I don't disagree with your sentiments in some respect. The fact is the UK doesn't want the Eton Rifles and a rag bag of failed management consultants, a la William Hague, doing the changes for them. Cameron doesn't ooze change he oozes priviledge and class distinction, a change we don't want. I remember yo-yoing interest rates, text books being shared in school classes. Things effect the vast majority not the few who think they know best. The tories need a real leader not a chinless wonder.
I am going to make it plain for all, we had "change for good" vs "change for the few"
People have spoken and now lets swallow the medecine.
Brits are not smart and politically astute to vote rationally, maybe in a couple of generations with the hope that IQ level goes up, maybe then we will have the leaders and Parliamentary system we need.
In my mind, there is no denial, that the UK is a sunk country, 44 millions idiots have torpedoed their own country.
Idiocracy has prevailed
[quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politicrat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pseudo[/bold] wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour[/p][/quote]You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.[/p][/quote]change was on offer, but Brits voted cowardly. Now we all have to bear responsability for the storm coming our way.[/p][/quote]I don't disagree with your sentiments in some respect. The fact is the UK doesn't want the Eton Rifles and a rag bag of failed management consultants, a la William Hague, doing the changes for them. Cameron doesn't ooze change he oozes priviledge and class distinction, a change we don't want. I remember yo-yoing interest rates, text books being shared in school classes. Things effect the vast majority not the few who think they know best. The tories need a real leader not a chinless wonder.[/p][/quote]I am going to make it plain for all, we had "change for good" vs "change for the few" People have spoken and now lets swallow the medecine. Brits are not smart and politically astute to vote rationally, maybe in a couple of generations with the hope that IQ level goes up, maybe then we will have the leaders and Parliamentary system we need. In my mind, there is no denial, that the UK is a sunk country, 44 millions idiots have torpedoed their own country. Idiocracy has prevailed politicrat
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9:32am Fri 7 May 10

Mr Blackwell says...

The overall national results just go to show how successful Labour has been in buying their voting army with our money. It's astonishing how many people are still voting for a discredited government with the most unpopular prime minister in living memory.
The overall national results just go to show how successful Labour has been in buying their voting army with our money. It's astonishing how many people are still voting for a discredited government with the most unpopular prime minister in living memory. Mr Blackwell
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9:37am Fri 7 May 10

carter68 says...

Well done Justin and Robert - now fight for us - the voters, don't let us down, we've put our trust in you.
Well done Justin and Robert - now fight for us - the voters, don't let us down, we've put our trust in you. carter68
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9:38am Fri 7 May 10

politicrat says...

Mr Blackwell wrote:
The overall national results just go to show how successful Labour has been in buying their voting army with our money. It's astonishing how many people are still voting for a discredited government with the most unpopular prime minister in living memory.
you never change a General in the middle of a battle!
remember these words.......
[quote][p][bold]Mr Blackwell[/bold] wrote: The overall national results just go to show how successful Labour has been in buying their voting army with our money. It's astonishing how many people are still voting for a discredited government with the most unpopular prime minister in living memory.[/p][/quote]you never change a General in the middle of a battle! remember these words....... politicrat
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9:46am Fri 7 May 10

Al Smith says...

Pseudo wrote:
redtilldead wrote:
Pseudo wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour
You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.
More people have voted Conservative than Labour or are you still trying to claim some sort of twisted victory?
Whilst the Conservatives have done well (well done to Swindon's two new MPs BTW) it looks like they won't secure an overall majority.
-
Hopefully that will force them to work with other parties and doing so the government might actually represent 50%+ of the electorate for once! Perhaps they might even remember that they aren't elected dictators and govern the country on behalf of its citizens (and not just their core voters).
[quote][p][bold]Pseudo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pseudo[/bold] wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour[/p][/quote]You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.[/p][/quote]More people have voted Conservative than Labour or are you still trying to claim some sort of twisted victory?[/p][/quote]Whilst the Conservatives have done well (well done to Swindon's two new MPs BTW) it looks like they won't secure an overall majority. - Hopefully that will force them to work with other parties and doing so the government might actually represent 50%+ of the electorate for once! Perhaps they might even remember that they aren't elected dictators and govern the country on behalf of its citizens (and not just their core voters). Al Smith
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9:48am Fri 7 May 10

mrwoo says...

Well done Robert and Justin. Ann I'm laughing at you!
Well done Robert and Justin. Ann I'm laughing at you! mrwoo
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9:48am Fri 7 May 10

redtilldead says...

politicrat wrote:
redtilldead wrote:
politicrat wrote:
redtilldead wrote:
Pseudo wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour
You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.
change was on offer, but Brits voted cowardly. Now we all have to bear responsability for the storm coming our way.
I don't disagree with your sentiments in some respect. The fact is the UK doesn't want the Eton Rifles and a rag bag of failed management consultants, a la William Hague, doing the changes for them. Cameron doesn't ooze change he oozes priviledge and class distinction, a change we don't want. I remember yo-yoing interest rates, text books being shared in school classes. Things effect the vast majority not the few who think they know best. The tories need a real leader not a chinless wonder.
I am going to make it plain for all, we had "change for good" vs "change for the few"
People have spoken and now lets swallow the medecine.
Brits are not smart and politically astute to vote rationally, maybe in a couple of generations with the hope that IQ level goes up, maybe then we will have the leaders and Parliamentary system we need.
In my mind, there is no denial, that the UK is a sunk country, 44 millions idiots have torpedoed their own country.
Idiocracy has prevailed
And it's their democratic choice to disagree with you.

Yes we are all idiots according to you but then you probably voted for a party which sold the nations assets to balance the books.

All that privatisation and none of our utilities owned british co's. A good way of getting us into Europe by the back door you may say!

A party that trained the dumb to think that holding shares is good as prices "always go up".

A party that made people believe profit for the shareholder is always good no matter how you get it. Even if it means moving UK based jobs abroad. Ever dealt with a call centre based outside the UK? Cheap fixes to boost the profit margin for one year but not to supply service.

The idiots in the UK can also use a spell checker!

You are obviously so right that you shoul
[quote][p][bold]politicrat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politicrat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pseudo[/bold] wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour[/p][/quote]You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.[/p][/quote]change was on offer, but Brits voted cowardly. Now we all have to bear responsability for the storm coming our way.[/p][/quote]I don't disagree with your sentiments in some respect. The fact is the UK doesn't want the Eton Rifles and a rag bag of failed management consultants, a la William Hague, doing the changes for them. Cameron doesn't ooze change he oozes priviledge and class distinction, a change we don't want. I remember yo-yoing interest rates, text books being shared in school classes. Things effect the vast majority not the few who think they know best. The tories need a real leader not a chinless wonder.[/p][/quote]I am going to make it plain for all, we had "change for good" vs "change for the few" People have spoken and now lets swallow the medecine. Brits are not smart and politically astute to vote rationally, maybe in a couple of generations with the hope that IQ level goes up, maybe then we will have the leaders and Parliamentary system we need. In my mind, there is no denial, that the UK is a sunk country, 44 millions idiots have torpedoed their own country. Idiocracy has prevailed[/p][/quote]And it's their democratic choice to disagree with you. Yes we are all idiots according to you but then you probably voted for a party which sold the nations assets to balance the books. All that privatisation and none of our utilities owned british co's. A good way of getting us into Europe by the back door you may say! A party that trained the dumb to think that holding shares is good as prices "always go up". A party that made people believe profit for the shareholder is always good no matter how you get it. Even if it means moving UK based jobs abroad. Ever dealt with a call centre based outside the UK? Cheap fixes to boost the profit margin for one year but not to supply service. The idiots in the UK can also use a spell checker! You are obviously so right that you shoul redtilldead
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9:54am Fri 7 May 10

real -life says...

Politics is and always will be flawed. Voters are not required to have the slightest understanding of what or who they are voting for and politicians are not required to have any qualification or experience to do the job they are elected to do. Have you seen the pictures of our new MP's? Would you really trust them with your money and wellbeing? Welcome to the wonders of democracy! But hey, it's friday so who cares!!!!!!!
Politics is and always will be flawed. Voters are not required to have the slightest understanding of what or who they are voting for and politicians are not required to have any qualification or experience to do the job they are elected to do. Have you seen the pictures of our new MP's? Would you really trust them with your money and wellbeing? Welcome to the wonders of democracy! But hey, it's friday so who cares!!!!!!! real -life
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9:57am Fri 7 May 10

politicrat says...

redtilldead wrote:
politicrat wrote:
redtilldead wrote:
politicrat wrote:
redtilldead wrote:
Pseudo wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour
You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.
change was on offer, but Brits voted cowardly. Now we all have to bear responsability for the storm coming our way.
I don't disagree with your sentiments in some respect. The fact is the UK doesn't want the Eton Rifles and a rag bag of failed management consultants, a la William Hague, doing the changes for them. Cameron doesn't ooze change he oozes priviledge and class distinction, a change we don't want. I remember yo-yoing interest rates, text books being shared in school classes. Things effect the vast majority not the few who think they know best. The tories need a real leader not a chinless wonder.
I am going to make it plain for all, we had "change for good" vs "change for the few" People have spoken and now lets swallow the medecine. Brits are not smart and politically astute to vote rationally, maybe in a couple of generations with the hope that IQ level goes up, maybe then we will have the leaders and Parliamentary system we need. In my mind, there is no denial, that the UK is a sunk country, 44 millions idiots have torpedoed their own country. Idiocracy has prevailed
And it's their democratic choice to disagree with you. Yes we are all idiots according to you but then you probably voted for a party which sold the nations assets to balance the books. All that privatisation and none of our utilities owned british co's. A good way of getting us into Europe by the back door you may say! A party that trained the dumb to think that holding shares is good as prices "always go up". A party that made people believe profit for the shareholder is always good no matter how you get it. Even if it means moving UK based jobs abroad. Ever dealt with a call centre based outside the UK? Cheap fixes to boost the profit margin for one year but not to supply service. The idiots in the UK can also use a spell checker! You are obviously so right that you shoul
look at the council, invested in a wifi company, did the voters disagree?
you will find most people are backing the tory led council and its decisions and management of the town and its development.
Fact!
and most voters agree with inheritance tax cuts and savage cuts in public service jobs
Fact!
[quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politicrat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politicrat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pseudo[/bold] wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour[/p][/quote]You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.[/p][/quote]change was on offer, but Brits voted cowardly. Now we all have to bear responsability for the storm coming our way.[/p][/quote]I don't disagree with your sentiments in some respect. The fact is the UK doesn't want the Eton Rifles and a rag bag of failed management consultants, a la William Hague, doing the changes for them. Cameron doesn't ooze change he oozes priviledge and class distinction, a change we don't want. I remember yo-yoing interest rates, text books being shared in school classes. Things effect the vast majority not the few who think they know best. The tories need a real leader not a chinless wonder.[/p][/quote]I am going to make it plain for all, we had "change for good" vs "change for the few" People have spoken and now lets swallow the medecine. Brits are not smart and politically astute to vote rationally, maybe in a couple of generations with the hope that IQ level goes up, maybe then we will have the leaders and Parliamentary system we need. In my mind, there is no denial, that the UK is a sunk country, 44 millions idiots have torpedoed their own country. Idiocracy has prevailed[/p][/quote]And it's their democratic choice to disagree with you. Yes we are all idiots according to you but then you probably voted for a party which sold the nations assets to balance the books. All that privatisation and none of our utilities owned british co's. A good way of getting us into Europe by the back door you may say! A party that trained the dumb to think that holding shares is good as prices "always go up". A party that made people believe profit for the shareholder is always good no matter how you get it. Even if it means moving UK based jobs abroad. Ever dealt with a call centre based outside the UK? Cheap fixes to boost the profit margin for one year but not to supply service. The idiots in the UK can also use a spell checker! You are obviously so right that you shoul[/p][/quote]look at the council, invested in a wifi company, did the voters disagree? you will find most people are backing the tory led council and its decisions and management of the town and its development. Fact! and most voters agree with inheritance tax cuts and savage cuts in public service jobs Fact! politicrat
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10:03am Fri 7 May 10

politicrat says...

real -life wrote:
Politics is and always will be flawed. Voters are not required to have the slightest understanding of what or who they are voting for and politicians are not required to have any qualification or experience to do the job they are elected to do. Have you seen the pictures of our new MP's? Would you really trust them with your money and wellbeing? Welcome to the wonders of democracy! But hey, it's friday so who cares!!!!!!!
just to illustrate: you can be drunk and vote but you cant drink and drive!
says it all about our sacrosaint democracy, a farce!
[quote][p][bold]real -life[/bold] wrote: Politics is and always will be flawed. Voters are not required to have the slightest understanding of what or who they are voting for and politicians are not required to have any qualification or experience to do the job they are elected to do. Have you seen the pictures of our new MP's? Would you really trust them with your money and wellbeing? Welcome to the wonders of democracy! But hey, it's friday so who cares!!!!!!![/p][/quote]just to illustrate: you can be drunk and vote but you cant drink and drive! says it all about our sacrosaint democracy, a farce! politicrat
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10:03am Fri 7 May 10

Home Boy says...

Al Smith wrote:
Pseudo wrote:
redtilldead wrote:
Pseudo wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour
You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.
More people have voted Conservative than Labour or are you still trying to claim some sort of twisted victory?
Whilst the Conservatives have done well (well done to Swindon's two new MPs BTW) it looks like they won't secure an overall majority.
-
Hopefully that will force them to work with other parties and doing so the government might actually represent 50%+ of the electorate for once! Perhaps they might even remember that they aren't elected dictators and govern the country on behalf of its citizens (and not just their core voters).
Where's the 'like" button on here???
.
It's looking like a good result both locally and nationally. Justin seems like a good local bloke and willing to represent local interests. And nationally we will hopefully have a coallition representing over 50% of the vote (whether it's tory or labour led). Who'd have a thought a UK government representing the majority!
.
Lets just hope we get the electoral system and party funding sorted out before next time...
[quote][p][bold]Al Smith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pseudo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pseudo[/bold] wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour[/p][/quote]You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.[/p][/quote]More people have voted Conservative than Labour or are you still trying to claim some sort of twisted victory?[/p][/quote]Whilst the Conservatives have done well (well done to Swindon's two new MPs BTW) it looks like they won't secure an overall majority. - Hopefully that will force them to work with other parties and doing so the government might actually represent 50%+ of the electorate for once! Perhaps they might even remember that they aren't elected dictators and govern the country on behalf of its citizens (and not just their core voters).[/p][/quote]Where's the 'like" button on here??? . It's looking like a good result both locally and nationally. Justin seems like a good local bloke and willing to represent local interests. And nationally we will hopefully have a coallition representing over 50% of the vote (whether it's tory or labour led). Who'd have a thought a UK government representing the majority! . Lets just hope we get the electoral system and party funding sorted out before next time... Home Boy
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10:05am Fri 7 May 10

redtilldead says...

A wifi system that doesn't work properly.

Inhertance Tax introduced by the Cons. A tax on the un-prepared.

You don't have to pay it if you manange your affairs properly. If it effects you, you've proved why you voted for the few. If you want to find out how to legally avoid it let me know.

One way is to leave all your money to the con party, wonder who thought of that one!

FACT
A wifi system that doesn't work properly. Inhertance Tax introduced by the Cons. A tax on the un-prepared. You don't have to pay it if you manange your affairs properly. If it effects you, you've proved why you voted for the few. If you want to find out how to legally avoid it let me know. One way is to leave all your money to the con party, wonder who thought of that one! FACT redtilldead
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10:12am Fri 7 May 10

Desperatedan1 says...

So back to the dark days of High interest rates,NHS being rundown and higher taxes.As history will show we will change back to Labour in a few years time.Then a few years after that back to the Conservatives.
So back to the dark days of High interest rates,NHS being rundown and higher taxes.As history will show we will change back to Labour in a few years time.Then a few years after that back to the Conservatives. Desperatedan1
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10:14am Fri 7 May 10

politicrat says...

redtilldead wrote:
A wifi system that doesn't work properly. Inhertance Tax introduced by the Cons. A tax on the un-prepared. You don't have to pay it if you manange your affairs properly. If it effects you, you've proved why you voted for the few. If you want to find out how to legally avoid it let me know. One way is to leave all your money to the con party, wonder who thought of that one! FACT
people trust educated people, Fact!
Swindon has given a clear mandate to succesful businessmen / entrepreneurs.
Nationally, big companies,billionair
es and financiers have sided with the Tories and people in Swindon and accross the UK know that what is good for zillionaires wealth is good for them too in terms of jobs and taxation.
[quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: A wifi system that doesn't work properly. Inhertance Tax introduced by the Cons. A tax on the un-prepared. You don't have to pay it if you manange your affairs properly. If it effects you, you've proved why you voted for the few. If you want to find out how to legally avoid it let me know. One way is to leave all your money to the con party, wonder who thought of that one! FACT[/p][/quote]people trust educated people, Fact! Swindon has given a clear mandate to succesful businessmen / entrepreneurs. Nationally, big companies,billionair es and financiers have sided with the Tories and people in Swindon and accross the UK know that what is good for zillionaires wealth is good for them too in terms of jobs and taxation. politicrat
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10:21am Fri 7 May 10

redtilldead says...

politicrat wrote:
redtilldead wrote:
A wifi system that doesn't work properly. Inhertance Tax introduced by the Cons. A tax on the un-prepared. You don't have to pay it if you manange your affairs properly. If it effects you, you've proved why you voted for the few. If you want to find out how to legally avoid it let me know. One way is to leave all your money to the con party, wonder who thought of that one! FACT
people trust educated people, Fact!
Swindon has given a clear mandate to succesful businessmen / entrepreneurs.
Nationally, big companies,billionair

es and financiers have sided with the Tories and people in Swindon and accross the UK know that what is good for zillionaires wealth is good for them too in terms of jobs and taxation.
I'm educated & run my own business.

I didn't go to Eton though. I want everyone to earn loads and have a great lifestyle, utopia.

I don't agree with tugging the fore lock and bowing down to people who believe they are better than me because of the school I went to.

If you do that's your democratic right but don't try enforce your subserviance on me. By the way do you still want advice on your inhertance tax problem?
[quote][p][bold]politicrat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: A wifi system that doesn't work properly. Inhertance Tax introduced by the Cons. A tax on the un-prepared. You don't have to pay it if you manange your affairs properly. If it effects you, you've proved why you voted for the few. If you want to find out how to legally avoid it let me know. One way is to leave all your money to the con party, wonder who thought of that one! FACT[/p][/quote]people trust educated people, Fact! Swindon has given a clear mandate to succesful businessmen / entrepreneurs. Nationally, big companies,billionair es and financiers have sided with the Tories and people in Swindon and accross the UK know that what is good for zillionaires wealth is good for them too in terms of jobs and taxation.[/p][/quote]I'm educated & run my own business. I didn't go to Eton though. I want everyone to earn loads and have a great lifestyle, utopia. I don't agree with tugging the fore lock and bowing down to people who believe they are better than me because of the school I went to. If you do that's your democratic right but don't try enforce your subserviance on me. By the way do you still want advice on your inhertance tax problem? redtilldead
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10:35am Fri 7 May 10

SockPuppet says...

Now I know I am surrounded by media reading/believing idiots.

That is all.
Now I know I am surrounded by media reading/believing idiots. That is all. SockPuppet
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10:41am Fri 7 May 10

politicrat says...

redtilldead wrote:
politicrat wrote:
redtilldead wrote: A wifi system that doesn't work properly. Inhertance Tax introduced by the Cons. A tax on the un-prepared. You don't have to pay it if you manange your affairs properly. If it effects you, you've proved why you voted for the few. If you want to find out how to legally avoid it let me know. One way is to leave all your money to the con party, wonder who thought of that one! FACT
people trust educated people, Fact! Swindon has given a clear mandate to succesful businessmen / entrepreneurs. Nationally, big companies,billionair es and financiers have sided with the Tories and people in Swindon and accross the UK know that what is good for zillionaires wealth is good for them too in terms of jobs and taxation.
I'm educated & run my own business. I didn't go to Eton though. I want everyone to earn loads and have a great lifestyle, utopia. I don't agree with tugging the fore lock and bowing down to people who believe they are better than me because of the school I went to. If you do that's your democratic right but don't try enforce your subserviance on me. By the way do you still want advice on your inhertance tax problem?
Eton, Cambridge etc have always produced great tory leaders and great businessmen.
[quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politicrat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: A wifi system that doesn't work properly. Inhertance Tax introduced by the Cons. A tax on the un-prepared. You don't have to pay it if you manange your affairs properly. If it effects you, you've proved why you voted for the few. If you want to find out how to legally avoid it let me know. One way is to leave all your money to the con party, wonder who thought of that one! FACT[/p][/quote]people trust educated people, Fact! Swindon has given a clear mandate to succesful businessmen / entrepreneurs. Nationally, big companies,billionair es and financiers have sided with the Tories and people in Swindon and accross the UK know that what is good for zillionaires wealth is good for them too in terms of jobs and taxation.[/p][/quote]I'm educated & run my own business. I didn't go to Eton though. I want everyone to earn loads and have a great lifestyle, utopia. I don't agree with tugging the fore lock and bowing down to people who believe they are better than me because of the school I went to. If you do that's your democratic right but don't try enforce your subserviance on me. By the way do you still want advice on your inhertance tax problem?[/p][/quote]Eton, Cambridge etc have always produced great tory leaders and great businessmen. politicrat
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11:19am Fri 7 May 10

IzzyP says...

redtilldead wrote:
politicrat wrote:
redtilldead wrote:
politicrat wrote:
redtilldead wrote:
Pseudo wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour
You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.
change was on offer, but Brits voted cowardly. Now we all have to bear responsability for the storm coming our way.
I don't disagree with your sentiments in some respect. The fact is the UK doesn't want the Eton Rifles and a rag bag of failed management consultants, a la William Hague, doing the changes for them. Cameron doesn't ooze change he oozes priviledge and class distinction, a change we don't want. I remember yo-yoing interest rates, text books being shared in school classes. Things effect the vast majority not the few who think they know best. The tories need a real leader not a chinless wonder.
I am going to make it plain for all, we had "change for good" vs "change for the few" People have spoken and now lets swallow the medecine. Brits are not smart and politically astute to vote rationally, maybe in a couple of generations with the hope that IQ level goes up, maybe then we will have the leaders and Parliamentary system we need. In my mind, there is no denial, that the UK is a sunk country, 44 millions idiots have torpedoed their own country. Idiocracy has prevailed
And it's their democratic choice to disagree with you. Yes we are all idiots according to you but then you probably voted for a party which sold the nations assets to balance the books. All that privatisation and none of our utilities owned british co's. A good way of getting us into Europe by the back door you may say! A party that trained the dumb to think that holding shares is good as prices "always go up". A party that made people believe profit for the shareholder is always good no matter how you get it. Even if it means moving UK based jobs abroad. Ever dealt with a call centre based outside the UK? Cheap fixes to boost the profit margin for one year but not to supply service. The idiots in the UK can also use a spell checker! You are obviously so right that you shoul
Politicrat - "Brits are not smart and politically astute to vote rationally, maybe in a couple of generations with the hope that IQ level goes up, maybe then we will have the leaders and Parliamentary system we need"

Would this be the generation of students that decided to roll out of the student bar at 9.30pm, turn up at the polling station without their polling cards, and are then surprised that they're not allowed to exercise their democratic right and blame it on the returning officer? A bright future indeed!!
[quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politicrat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politicrat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pseudo[/bold] wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour[/p][/quote]You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.[/p][/quote]change was on offer, but Brits voted cowardly. Now we all have to bear responsability for the storm coming our way.[/p][/quote]I don't disagree with your sentiments in some respect. The fact is the UK doesn't want the Eton Rifles and a rag bag of failed management consultants, a la William Hague, doing the changes for them. Cameron doesn't ooze change he oozes priviledge and class distinction, a change we don't want. I remember yo-yoing interest rates, text books being shared in school classes. Things effect the vast majority not the few who think they know best. The tories need a real leader not a chinless wonder.[/p][/quote]I am going to make it plain for all, we had "change for good" vs "change for the few" People have spoken and now lets swallow the medecine. Brits are not smart and politically astute to vote rationally, maybe in a couple of generations with the hope that IQ level goes up, maybe then we will have the leaders and Parliamentary system we need. In my mind, there is no denial, that the UK is a sunk country, 44 millions idiots have torpedoed their own country. Idiocracy has prevailed[/p][/quote]And it's their democratic choice to disagree with you. Yes we are all idiots according to you but then you probably voted for a party which sold the nations assets to balance the books. All that privatisation and none of our utilities owned british co's. A good way of getting us into Europe by the back door you may say! A party that trained the dumb to think that holding shares is good as prices "always go up". A party that made people believe profit for the shareholder is always good no matter how you get it. Even if it means moving UK based jobs abroad. Ever dealt with a call centre based outside the UK? Cheap fixes to boost the profit margin for one year but not to supply service. The idiots in the UK can also use a spell checker! You are obviously so right that you shoul[/p][/quote]Politicrat - "Brits are not smart and politically astute to vote rationally, maybe in a couple of generations with the hope that IQ level goes up, maybe then we will have the leaders and Parliamentary system we need" Would this be the generation of students that decided to roll out of the student bar at 9.30pm, turn up at the polling station without their polling cards, and are then surprised that they're not allowed to exercise their democratic right and blame it on the returning officer? A bright future indeed!! IzzyP
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11:34am Fri 7 May 10

politicrat says...

IzzyP wrote:
redtilldead wrote:
politicrat wrote:
redtilldead wrote:
politicrat wrote:
redtilldead wrote:
Pseudo wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour
You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.
change was on offer, but Brits voted cowardly. Now we all have to bear responsability for the storm coming our way.
I don't disagree with your sentiments in some respect. The fact is the UK doesn't want the Eton Rifles and a rag bag of failed management consultants, a la William Hague, doing the changes for them. Cameron doesn't ooze change he oozes priviledge and class distinction, a change we don't want. I remember yo-yoing interest rates, text books being shared in school classes. Things effect the vast majority not the few who think they know best. The tories need a real leader not a chinless wonder.
I am going to make it plain for all, we had "change for good" vs "change for the few" People have spoken and now lets swallow the medecine. Brits are not smart and politically astute to vote rationally, maybe in a couple of generations with the hope that IQ level goes up, maybe then we will have the leaders and Parliamentary system we need. In my mind, there is no denial, that the UK is a sunk country, 44 millions idiots have torpedoed their own country. Idiocracy has prevailed
And it's their democratic choice to disagree with you. Yes we are all idiots according to you but then you probably voted for a party which sold the nations assets to balance the books. All that privatisation and none of our utilities owned british co's. A good way of getting us into Europe by the back door you may say! A party that trained the dumb to think that holding shares is good as prices "always go up". A party that made people believe profit for the shareholder is always good no matter how you get it. Even if it means moving UK based jobs abroad. Ever dealt with a call centre based outside the UK? Cheap fixes to boost the profit margin for one year but not to supply service. The idiots in the UK can also use a spell checker! You are obviously so right that you shoul
Politicrat - "Brits are not smart and politically astute to vote rationally, maybe in a couple of generations with the hope that IQ level goes up, maybe then we will have the leaders and Parliamentary system we need" Would this be the generation of students that decided to roll out of the student bar at 9.30pm, turn up at the polling station without their polling cards, and are then surprised that they're not allowed to exercise their democratic right and blame it on the returning officer? A bright future indeed!!
I stand by my comments, maybe in few generations Brits will be smart enough to vote intelligently
Money power vs People power, clear winner Money!
[quote][p][bold]IzzyP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politicrat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politicrat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pseudo[/bold] wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour[/p][/quote]You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.[/p][/quote]change was on offer, but Brits voted cowardly. Now we all have to bear responsability for the storm coming our way.[/p][/quote]I don't disagree with your sentiments in some respect. The fact is the UK doesn't want the Eton Rifles and a rag bag of failed management consultants, a la William Hague, doing the changes for them. Cameron doesn't ooze change he oozes priviledge and class distinction, a change we don't want. I remember yo-yoing interest rates, text books being shared in school classes. Things effect the vast majority not the few who think they know best. The tories need a real leader not a chinless wonder.[/p][/quote]I am going to make it plain for all, we had "change for good" vs "change for the few" People have spoken and now lets swallow the medecine. Brits are not smart and politically astute to vote rationally, maybe in a couple of generations with the hope that IQ level goes up, maybe then we will have the leaders and Parliamentary system we need. In my mind, there is no denial, that the UK is a sunk country, 44 millions idiots have torpedoed their own country. Idiocracy has prevailed[/p][/quote]And it's their democratic choice to disagree with you. Yes we are all idiots according to you but then you probably voted for a party which sold the nations assets to balance the books. All that privatisation and none of our utilities owned british co's. A good way of getting us into Europe by the back door you may say! A party that trained the dumb to think that holding shares is good as prices "always go up". A party that made people believe profit for the shareholder is always good no matter how you get it. Even if it means moving UK based jobs abroad. Ever dealt with a call centre based outside the UK? Cheap fixes to boost the profit margin for one year but not to supply service. The idiots in the UK can also use a spell checker! You are obviously so right that you shoul[/p][/quote]Politicrat - "Brits are not smart and politically astute to vote rationally, maybe in a couple of generations with the hope that IQ level goes up, maybe then we will have the leaders and Parliamentary system we need" Would this be the generation of students that decided to roll out of the student bar at 9.30pm, turn up at the polling station without their polling cards, and are then surprised that they're not allowed to exercise their democratic right and blame it on the returning officer? A bright future indeed!![/p][/quote]I stand by my comments, maybe in few generations Brits will be smart enough to vote intelligently Money power vs People power, clear winner Money! politicrat
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11:35am Fri 7 May 10

Gooey says...

Hardly a convincing win.They'll last 1 term at the most.We can look forward to vital services for those who need it most getting scrapped.Hand in hand with their tory councillor chums they'll soon ruin the town and will be ousted in the next election
Hardly a convincing win.They'll last 1 term at the most.We can look forward to vital services for those who need it most getting scrapped.Hand in hand with their tory councillor chums they'll soon ruin the town and will be ousted in the next election Gooey
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11:58am Fri 7 May 10

redtilldead says...

politicrat wrote:
redtilldead wrote:
politicrat wrote:
redtilldead wrote: A wifi system that doesn't work properly. Inhertance Tax introduced by the Cons. A tax on the un-prepared. You don't have to pay it if you manange your affairs properly. If it effects you, you've proved why you voted for the few. If you want to find out how to legally avoid it let me know. One way is to leave all your money to the con party, wonder who thought of that one! FACT
people trust educated people, Fact! Swindon has given a clear mandate to succesful businessmen / entrepreneurs. Nationally, big companies,billionair es and financiers have sided with the Tories and people in Swindon and accross the UK know that what is good for zillionaires wealth is good for them too in terms of jobs and taxation.
I'm educated & run my own business. I didn't go to Eton though. I want everyone to earn loads and have a great lifestyle, utopia. I don't agree with tugging the fore lock and bowing down to people who believe they are better than me because of the school I went to. If you do that's your democratic right but don't try enforce your subserviance on me. By the way do you still want advice on your inhertance tax problem?
Eton, Cambridge etc have always produced great tory leaders and great businessmen.
Battles planned on the playing fields of Eton and unlike the "great" leaders of the past, god love them and tug my forelock.

Cameron failed to deliver and grabbed a draw from the jaws of victory. Is that plain enough for you?
[quote][p][bold]politicrat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politicrat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: A wifi system that doesn't work properly. Inhertance Tax introduced by the Cons. A tax on the un-prepared. You don't have to pay it if you manange your affairs properly. If it effects you, you've proved why you voted for the few. If you want to find out how to legally avoid it let me know. One way is to leave all your money to the con party, wonder who thought of that one! FACT[/p][/quote]people trust educated people, Fact! Swindon has given a clear mandate to succesful businessmen / entrepreneurs. Nationally, big companies,billionair es and financiers have sided with the Tories and people in Swindon and accross the UK know that what is good for zillionaires wealth is good for them too in terms of jobs and taxation.[/p][/quote]I'm educated & run my own business. I didn't go to Eton though. I want everyone to earn loads and have a great lifestyle, utopia. I don't agree with tugging the fore lock and bowing down to people who believe they are better than me because of the school I went to. If you do that's your democratic right but don't try enforce your subserviance on me. By the way do you still want advice on your inhertance tax problem?[/p][/quote]Eton, Cambridge etc have always produced great tory leaders and great businessmen.[/p][/quote]Battles planned on the playing fields of Eton and unlike the "great" leaders of the past, god love them and tug my forelock. Cameron failed to deliver and grabbed a draw from the jaws of victory. Is that plain enough for you? redtilldead
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12:07pm Fri 7 May 10

yhs4260 says...

My first ever vote went to the Conservative party last night... But my vote was not for The Conservatives, it was for Democracy.

I believe above all else, that a change in a countrys government every 12-15 years can only be a good thing. Dust off the cobwebs and get some fresh ideas to make our country better.

So Mr Cameron, Mr Brown and Mr Clegg. I have voted for Democracy, and that is why I voted.
My first ever vote went to the Conservative party last night... But my vote was not for The Conservatives, it was for Democracy. I believe above all else, that a change in a countrys government every 12-15 years can only be a good thing. Dust off the cobwebs and get some fresh ideas to make our country better. So Mr Cameron, Mr Brown and Mr Clegg. I have voted for Democracy, and that is why I voted. yhs4260
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12:17pm Fri 7 May 10

redtilldead says...

politicrat wrote:
IzzyP wrote:
redtilldead wrote:
politicrat wrote:
redtilldead wrote:
politicrat wrote:
redtilldead wrote:
Pseudo wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour
You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.
change was on offer, but Brits voted cowardly. Now we all have to bear responsability for the storm coming our way.
I don't disagree with your sentiments in some respect. The fact is the UK doesn't want the Eton Rifles and a rag bag of failed management consultants, a la William Hague, doing the changes for them. Cameron doesn't ooze change he oozes priviledge and class distinction, a change we don't want. I remember yo-yoing interest rates, text books being shared in school classes. Things effect the vast majority not the few who think they know best. The tories need a real leader not a chinless wonder.
I am going to make it plain for all, we had "change for good" vs "change for the few" People have spoken and now lets swallow the medecine. Brits are not smart and politically astute to vote rationally, maybe in a couple of generations with the hope that IQ level goes up, maybe then we will have the leaders and Parliamentary system we need. In my mind, there is no denial, that the UK is a sunk country, 44 millions idiots have torpedoed their own country. Idiocracy has prevailed
And it's their democratic choice to disagree with you. Yes we are all idiots according to you but then you probably voted for a party which sold the nations assets to balance the books. All that privatisation and none of our utilities owned british co's. A good way of getting us into Europe by the back door you may say! A party that trained the dumb to think that holding shares is good as prices "always go up". A party that made people believe profit for the shareholder is always good no matter how you get it. Even if it means moving UK based jobs abroad. Ever dealt with a call centre based outside the UK? Cheap fixes to boost the profit margin for one year but not to supply service. The idiots in the UK can also use a spell checker! You are obviously so right that you shoul
Politicrat - "Brits are not smart and politically astute to vote rationally, maybe in a couple of generations with the hope that IQ level goes up, maybe then we will have the leaders and Parliamentary system we need" Would this be the generation of students that decided to roll out of the student bar at 9.30pm, turn up at the polling station without their polling cards, and are then surprised that they're not allowed to exercise their democratic right and blame it on the returning officer? A bright future indeed!!
I stand by my comments, maybe in few generations Brits will be smart enough to vote intelligently
Money power vs People power, clear winner Money!
So you do need help with IHT then.

A single issue need for a single brain cell person.

What fun!
[quote][p][bold]politicrat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IzzyP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politicrat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politicrat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pseudo[/bold] wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour[/p][/quote]You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.[/p][/quote]change was on offer, but Brits voted cowardly. Now we all have to bear responsability for the storm coming our way.[/p][/quote]I don't disagree with your sentiments in some respect. The fact is the UK doesn't want the Eton Rifles and a rag bag of failed management consultants, a la William Hague, doing the changes for them. Cameron doesn't ooze change he oozes priviledge and class distinction, a change we don't want. I remember yo-yoing interest rates, text books being shared in school classes. Things effect the vast majority not the few who think they know best. The tories need a real leader not a chinless wonder.[/p][/quote]I am going to make it plain for all, we had "change for good" vs "change for the few" People have spoken and now lets swallow the medecine. Brits are not smart and politically astute to vote rationally, maybe in a couple of generations with the hope that IQ level goes up, maybe then we will have the leaders and Parliamentary system we need. In my mind, there is no denial, that the UK is a sunk country, 44 millions idiots have torpedoed their own country. Idiocracy has prevailed[/p][/quote]And it's their democratic choice to disagree with you. Yes we are all idiots according to you but then you probably voted for a party which sold the nations assets to balance the books. All that privatisation and none of our utilities owned british co's. A good way of getting us into Europe by the back door you may say! A party that trained the dumb to think that holding shares is good as prices "always go up". A party that made people believe profit for the shareholder is always good no matter how you get it. Even if it means moving UK based jobs abroad. Ever dealt with a call centre based outside the UK? Cheap fixes to boost the profit margin for one year but not to supply service. The idiots in the UK can also use a spell checker! You are obviously so right that you shoul[/p][/quote]Politicrat - "Brits are not smart and politically astute to vote rationally, maybe in a couple of generations with the hope that IQ level goes up, maybe then we will have the leaders and Parliamentary system we need" Would this be the generation of students that decided to roll out of the student bar at 9.30pm, turn up at the polling station without their polling cards, and are then surprised that they're not allowed to exercise their democratic right and blame it on the returning officer? A bright future indeed!![/p][/quote]I stand by my comments, maybe in few generations Brits will be smart enough to vote intelligently Money power vs People power, clear winner Money![/p][/quote]So you do need help with IHT then. A single issue need for a single brain cell person. What fun! redtilldead
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12:32pm Fri 7 May 10

thenoose says...

A great result for Swindon. I wish I was there to see Snelgroves face. Come to think of it, I bet there are loads of upset people around the town. Mainly sponging labour voting chav scum!! I'm looking forward to seeing all those lazy dole cheats out and about being forced to work, haha
A great result for Swindon. I wish I was there to see Snelgroves face. Come to think of it, I bet there are loads of upset people around the town. Mainly sponging labour voting chav scum!! I'm looking forward to seeing all those lazy dole cheats out and about being forced to work, haha thenoose
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12:32pm Fri 7 May 10

politicrat says...

redtilldead wrote:
politicrat wrote:
IzzyP wrote:
redtilldead wrote:
politicrat wrote:
redtilldead wrote:
politicrat wrote:
redtilldead wrote:
Pseudo wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour
You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.
change was on offer, but Brits voted cowardly. Now we all have to bear responsability for the storm coming our way.
I don't disagree with your sentiments in some respect. The fact is the UK doesn't want the Eton Rifles and a rag bag of failed management consultants, a la William Hague, doing the changes for them. Cameron doesn't ooze change he oozes priviledge and class distinction, a change we don't want. I remember yo-yoing interest rates, text books being shared in school classes. Things effect the vast majority not the few who think they know best. The tories need a real leader not a chinless wonder.
I am going to make it plain for all, we had "change for good" vs "change for the few" People have spoken and now lets swallow the medecine. Brits are not smart and politically astute to vote rationally, maybe in a couple of generations with the hope that IQ level goes up, maybe then we will have the leaders and Parliamentary system we need. In my mind, there is no denial, that the UK is a sunk country, 44 millions idiots have torpedoed their own country. Idiocracy has prevailed
And it's their democratic choice to disagree with you. Yes we are all idiots according to you but then you probably voted for a party which sold the nations assets to balance the books. All that privatisation and none of our utilities owned british co's. A good way of getting us into Europe by the back door you may say! A party that trained the dumb to think that holding shares is good as prices "always go up". A party that made people believe profit for the shareholder is always good no matter how you get it. Even if it means moving UK based jobs abroad. Ever dealt with a call centre based outside the UK? Cheap fixes to boost the profit margin for one year but not to supply service. The idiots in the UK can also use a spell checker! You are obviously so right that you shoul
Politicrat - "Brits are not smart and politically astute to vote rationally, maybe in a couple of generations with the hope that IQ level goes up, maybe then we will have the leaders and Parliamentary system we need" Would this be the generation of students that decided to roll out of the student bar at 9.30pm, turn up at the polling station without their polling cards, and are then surprised that they're not allowed to exercise their democratic right and blame it on the returning officer? A bright future indeed!!
I stand by my comments, maybe in few generations Brits will be smart enough to vote intelligently Money power vs People power, clear winner Money!
So you do need help with IHT then. A single issue need for a single brain cell person. What fun!
I wonder how can you be successful treating potential customers this way.....no is my answer, couldn't be clearer, NO!
[quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politicrat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IzzyP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politicrat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politicrat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redtilldead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pseudo[/bold] wrote: Gordon, son of The Manse, Brown has lost. If he genuinely cares for this country he will accede to the wishes of the voters, accept defeat and resign. The public have voted for a Conservative Government not some bodge-up by Labour[/p][/quote]You are obviously an accountant, do the maths the voters haven't voted for a conservative government. A stunningly poor result for the cons (change, ha ha ha!) all things considered.[/p][/quote]change was on offer, but Brits voted cowardly. Now we all have to bear responsability for the storm coming our way.[/p][/quote]I don't disagree with your sentiments in some respect. The fact is the UK doesn't want the Eton Rifles and a rag bag of failed management consultants, a la William Hague, doing the changes for them. Cameron doesn't ooze change he oozes priviledge and class distinction, a change we don't want. I remember yo-yoing interest rates, text books being shared in school classes. Things effect the vast majority not the few who think they know best. The tories need a real leader not a chinless wonder.[/p][/quote]I am going to make it plain for all, we had "change for good" vs "change for the few" People have spoken and now lets swallow the medecine. Brits are not smart and politically astute to vote rationally, maybe in a couple of generations with the hope that IQ level goes up, maybe then we will have the leaders and Parliamentary system we need. In my mind, there is no denial, that the UK is a sunk country, 44 millions idiots have torpedoed their own country. Idiocracy has prevailed[/p][/quote]And it's their democratic choice to disagree with you. Yes we are all idiots according to you but then you probably voted for a party which sold the nations assets to balance the books. All that privatisation and none of our utilities owned british co's. A good way of getting us into Europe by the back door you may say! A party that trained the dumb to think that holding shares is good as prices "always go up". A party that made people believe profit for the shareholder is always good no matter how you get it. Even if it means moving UK based jobs abroad. Ever dealt with a call centre based outside the UK? Cheap fixes to boost the profit margin for one year but not to supply service. The idiots in the UK can also use a spell checker! You are obviously so right that you shoul[/p][/quote]Politicrat - "Brits are not smart and politically astute to vote rationally, maybe in a couple of generations with the hope that IQ level goes up, maybe then we will have the leaders and Parliamentary system we need" Would this be the generation of students that decided to roll out of the student bar at 9.30pm, turn up at the polling station without their polling cards, and are then surprised that they're not allowed to exercise their democratic right and blame it on the returning officer? A bright future indeed!![/p][/quote]I stand by my comments, maybe in few generations Brits will be smart enough to vote intelligently Money power vs People power, clear winner Money![/p][/quote]So you do need help with IHT then. A single issue need for a single brain cell person. What fun![/p][/quote]I wonder how can you be successful treating potential customers this way.....no is my answer, couldn't be clearer, NO! politicrat
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12:56pm Fri 7 May 10

reality_check says...

Congratulations to Justin, who is a local resident and a genuinely decent and hard-working bloke, irrespective of political party, and who will represent Swindon well.
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The same could never be said of Snelgrove and Wills who were completely ineffectual and incompetant (Wills) or complacent, disinterested and self-serving (Snelgrove). I am genuinely delighted that the odious Snelgrove has been given the boot, but have no doubt that this grasping and devious woman will find other ways to shamelessly milk the public purse for her own gain. May she one day receive her just desserts.
Congratulations to Justin, who is a local resident and a genuinely decent and hard-working bloke, irrespective of political party, and who will represent Swindon well. . The same could never be said of Snelgrove and Wills who were completely ineffectual and incompetant (Wills) or complacent, disinterested and self-serving (Snelgrove). I am genuinely delighted that the odious Snelgrove has been given the boot, but have no doubt that this grasping and devious woman will find other ways to shamelessly milk the public purse for her own gain. May she one day receive her just desserts. reality_check
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1:18pm Fri 7 May 10

thenoose says...

politicrat wrote:
Wurz_is_here_now wrote: Great victory for the Swindon torys fantastic news. . Two areas of disappointment. No clear win for the Torys and Farage survived the plane crash!
how can you wish the death of a democratically elected politician, I disagree with UKIP on few points but we shouldn't wish him bad, we are a democracy! People with views like yours are a shame to Freedom & Democracy.
Politiprat, if we live in such a democratic society, how can it be that parties can club together after an election and form a government, despite having lower shares of the vote than the Tories.
[quote][p][bold]politicrat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wurz_is_here_now[/bold] wrote: Great victory for the Swindon torys fantastic news. . Two areas of disappointment. No clear win for the Torys and Farage survived the plane crash![/p][/quote]how can you wish the death of a democratically elected politician, I disagree with UKIP on few points but we shouldn't wish him bad, we are a democracy! People with views like yours are a shame to Freedom & Democracy.[/p][/quote]Politiprat, if we live in such a democratic society, how can it be that parties can club together after an election and form a government, despite having lower shares of the vote than the Tories. thenoose
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1:26pm Fri 7 May 10

Gooey says...

More people in swindon didn't want a tory goverment or council than those that did.The same can be said nationally.Hardly a convincing win.Just look at the muig of the torie boys in the article.A toffee nosed barrister as an mp?What an absolute joke!
More people in swindon didn't want a tory goverment or council than those that did.The same can be said nationally.Hardly a convincing win.Just look at the muig of the torie boys in the article.A toffee nosed barrister as an mp?What an absolute joke! Gooey
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1:26pm Fri 7 May 10

politicrat says...

thenoose wrote:
politicrat wrote:
Wurz_is_here_now wrote: Great victory for the Swindon torys fantastic news. . Two areas of disappointment. No clear win for the Torys and Farage survived the plane crash!
how can you wish the death of a democratically elected politician, I disagree with UKIP on few points but we shouldn't wish him bad, we are a democracy! People with views like yours are a shame to Freedom & Democracy.
Politiprat, if we live in such a democratic society, how can it be that parties can club together after an election and form a government, despite having lower shares of the vote than the Tories.
Easy: 23% liberals +29% labour = 52%
Conservative 36%
As a democratic society, we should question whether it is healthy to let 36% voters decide when we could have a 52% majority representing a wide ranging spectrum of ideas and aspiration
I voted for change yes, but I didnt vote "change for/of the few"
[quote][p][bold]thenoose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]politicrat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wurz_is_here_now[/bold] wrote: Great victory for the Swindon torys fantastic news. . Two areas of disappointment. No clear win for the Torys and Farage survived the plane crash![/p][/quote]how can you wish the death of a democratically elected politician, I disagree with UKIP on few points but we shouldn't wish him bad, we are a democracy! People with views like yours are a shame to Freedom & Democracy.[/p][/quote]Politiprat, if we live in such a democratic society, how can it be that parties can club together after an election and form a government, despite having lower shares of the vote than the Tories.[/p][/quote]Easy: 23% liberals +29% labour = 52% Conservative 36% As a democratic society, we should question whether it is healthy to let 36% voters decide when we could have a 52% majority representing a wide ranging spectrum of ideas and aspiration I voted for change yes, but I didnt vote "change for/of the few" politicrat
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2:16pm Fri 7 May 10

thenoose says...

Some stubborn people and chavs may have voted for Labour and teachers with beards and sandals voted for the LibDems but neither voted for a LibLab coalition. People should be given the choice as to whether they are happy for this. There should be another election with the option of being able to vote Conservative or Lib-Lab.
Some stubborn people and chavs may have voted for Labour and teachers with beards and sandals voted for the LibDems but neither voted for a LibLab coalition. People should be given the choice as to whether they are happy for this. There should be another election with the option of being able to vote Conservative or Lib-Lab. thenoose
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2:54pm Fri 7 May 10

politicrat says...

thenoose wrote:
Some stubborn people and chavs may have voted for Labour and teachers with beards and sandals voted for the LibDems but neither voted for a LibLab coalition. People should be given the choice as to whether they are happy for this. There should be another election with the option of being able to vote Conservative or Lib-Lab.
There will be another election once the voting system is changed, maybe in 1 year time.
Then, it will impossible for a conservative governement to ever come to power again, the demographics are clearly on the side of the progressive political spectrum.
we live in a diverse society, and so the political system will at term reflect this. The Era of 2 parties system is over, denying it is very foolish.
[quote][p][bold]thenoose[/bold] wrote: Some stubborn people and chavs may have voted for Labour and teachers with beards and sandals voted for the LibDems but neither voted for a LibLab coalition. People should be given the choice as to whether they are happy for this. There should be another election with the option of being able to vote Conservative or Lib-Lab.[/p][/quote]There will be another election once the voting system is changed, maybe in 1 year time. Then, it will impossible for a conservative governement to ever come to power again, the demographics are clearly on the side of the progressive political spectrum. we live in a diverse society, and so the political system will at term reflect this. The Era of 2 parties system is over, denying it is very foolish. politicrat
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4:31pm Fri 7 May 10

rokerpete says...

So Swindon and the Borough is now under the control of the conservatives. I cant say I am that surprised since they appear to be the party that showed the most desire to win.
I REALLY hope that they can now walk the talk and make the promises realities....startin
g with the repeal of the RSS and the 37K houses being dumped around Swindon...although I am aware that by the leader of the councils own admission there is still a need for 32K house by 2026. I wonder what will really change.
So Swindon and the Borough is now under the control of the conservatives. I cant say I am that surprised since they appear to be the party that showed the most desire to win. I REALLY hope that they can now walk the talk and make the promises realities....startin g with the repeal of the RSS and the 37K houses being dumped around Swindon...although I am aware that by the leader of the councils own admission there is still a need for 32K house by 2026. I wonder what will really change. rokerpete
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4:50pm Fri 7 May 10

Al Smith says...

thenoose wrote:
Some stubborn people and chavs may have voted for Labour and teachers with beards and sandals voted for the LibDems but neither voted for a LibLab coalition. People should be given the choice as to whether they are happy for this. There should be another election with the option of being able to vote Conservative or Lib-Lab.
In 2005 65% of the electorate did not vote for Labour yet we got a Labour government.
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If that happened in somewhere like Iran there would be uproar from the west.
[quote][p][bold]thenoose[/bold] wrote: Some stubborn people and chavs may have voted for Labour and teachers with beards and sandals voted for the LibDems but neither voted for a LibLab coalition. People should be given the choice as to whether they are happy for this. There should be another election with the option of being able to vote Conservative or Lib-Lab.[/p][/quote]In 2005 65% of the electorate did not vote for Labour yet we got a Labour government. - If that happened in somewhere like Iran there would be uproar from the west. Al Smith
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6:24pm Fri 7 May 10

Bobfm says...

So we now have the test of our new MP's. 'Call me Dave' wants to do a deal with Nick Clegg.

So Justin and Rob.

Clegg wants the Euro.
Clegg wants 1 million illegal immigrants to stay in the UK.
Clegg wants Proportional Representation.
Clegg wants greater UK integration into the EU.

So where are you two guys on this deal. It does seem 'Call me Dave' is desperate to be PB. Let's have your comments, 'your integrity'.
So we now have the test of our new MP's. 'Call me Dave' wants to do a deal with Nick Clegg. So Justin and Rob. Clegg wants the Euro. Clegg wants 1 million illegal immigrants to stay in the UK. Clegg wants Proportional Representation. Clegg wants greater UK integration into the EU. So where are you two guys on this deal. It does seem 'Call me Dave' is desperate to be PB. Let's have your comments, 'your integrity'. Bobfm
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8:41pm Fri 7 May 10

Bobfm says...

Wurz_is_here_now, Swindon NOT South Marston says.

Given you have been banned so many times, is it not just a bit rich to question my legitimacy to post.
Wurz_is_here_now, Swindon NOT South Marston says. Given you have been banned so many times, is it not just a bit rich to question my legitimacy to post. Bobfm
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8:51pm Fri 7 May 10

Bobfm says...

So sad that my friend Justin seems to have forgotten already his roots. Guess it must be the elevation to high office.
So sad that my friend Justin seems to have forgotten already his roots. Guess it must be the elevation to high office. Bobfm
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10:03pm Fri 7 May 10

seeyounexttuesdaysbc says...

good job the staff at the oasis had a 3 month reprieve on their shift allowances...rumour is it is gonna end... what if there was another election..? who would work overnight then SBC?
good job the staff at the oasis had a 3 month reprieve on their shift allowances...rumour is it is gonna end... what if there was another election..? who would work overnight then SBC? seeyounexttuesdaysbc
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10:09pm Fri 7 May 10

reality_check says...

Come now 'call me Bob', don't be bitter.
Come now 'call me Bob', don't be bitter. reality_check
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8:42am Sat 8 May 10

politicrat says...

Bobfm wrote:
So we now have the test of our new MP's. 'Call me Dave' wants to do a deal with Nick Clegg. So Justin and Rob. Clegg wants the Euro. Clegg wants 1 million illegal immigrants to stay in the UK. Clegg wants Proportional Representation. Clegg wants greater UK integration into the EU. So where are you two guys on this deal. It does seem 'Call me Dave' is desperate to be PB. Let's have your comments, 'your integrity'.
To Bobfm, I do not know if you have noticed but this country is engaged in 3 wars, is in deep financial and social trouble and equipped with obsolete political system.
People have voted for ALL parties to work together rather than against each others!
I am glad that the Libdems will introduce more social fairness in the conservative program.
Your stance is clearly showing what is so wrong with British politics: scaring voters with "stories" and constant political infighting.
Let me say one more thing, Churchill was a LIBERAL!
[quote][p][bold]Bobfm[/bold] wrote: So we now have the test of our new MP's. 'Call me Dave' wants to do a deal with Nick Clegg. So Justin and Rob. Clegg wants the Euro. Clegg wants 1 million illegal immigrants to stay in the UK. Clegg wants Proportional Representation. Clegg wants greater UK integration into the EU. So where are you two guys on this deal. It does seem 'Call me Dave' is desperate to be PB. Let's have your comments, 'your integrity'.[/p][/quote]To Bobfm, I do not know if you have noticed but this country is engaged in 3 wars, is in deep financial and social trouble and equipped with obsolete political system. People have voted for ALL parties to work together rather than against each others! I am glad that the Libdems will introduce more social fairness in the conservative program. Your stance is clearly showing what is so wrong with British politics: scaring voters with "stories" and constant political infighting. Let me say one more thing, Churchill was a LIBERAL! politicrat
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9:00am Sat 8 May 10

Bobfm says...

Did Churchill not change parties several times.?

I am open to persuasion as to how parties who have campaigned on policies that are diametrically opposed, come together, even in the interests of the country.

Any such deals will once again be for selfish political reasons. Remember Cameron would not do a deal with Clegg or Brown less than 72 hours ago.

This result has revealed that the politics of the LibLabCon, have not changed one iota.
Did Churchill not change parties several times.? I am open to persuasion as to how parties who have campaigned on policies that are diametrically opposed, come together, even in the interests of the country. Any such deals will once again be for selfish political reasons. Remember Cameron would not do a deal with Clegg or Brown less than 72 hours ago. This result has revealed that the politics of the LibLabCon, have not changed one iota. Bobfm
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3:29pm Sat 8 May 10

faatmaan says...

turkeys voted for christmas ?
turkeys voted for christmas ? faatmaan
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4:29pm Sat 8 May 10

Wurz_is_here_now says...

Bobfm wrote:
Did Churchill not change parties several times.?

I am open to persuasion as to how parties who have campaigned on policies that are diametrically opposed, come together, even in the interests of the country.

Any such deals will once again be for selfish political reasons. Remember Cameron would not do a deal with Clegg or Brown less than 72 hours ago.

This result has revealed that the politics of the LibLabCon, have not changed one iota.
This result has also revealed that there is no room for UKIP in British politics. 3.1% of the vote no candidates even getting close to the 3 real parties. You are a JOKE.
[quote][p][bold]Bobfm[/bold] wrote: Did Churchill not change parties several times.? I am open to persuasion as to how parties who have campaigned on policies that are diametrically opposed, come together, even in the interests of the country. Any such deals will once again be for selfish political reasons. Remember Cameron would not do a deal with Clegg or Brown less than 72 hours ago. This result has revealed that the politics of the LibLabCon, have not changed one iota.[/p][/quote]This result has also revealed that there is no room for UKIP in British politics. 3.1% of the vote no candidates even getting close to the 3 real parties. You are a JOKE. Wurz_is_here_now
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6:49pm Sat 8 May 10

Bobfm says...

Are so the Torygraph are wrong then in their analysis. It seems they believe UKIP prevented the Tories winning in 21 target seats, not bad for a party of 'Fruit Cakes and Closet Racists'

Analysis of results shows that in at least 21 key marginal seats, Ukip’s share of the vote proved enough to allow Labour or the Lib Dems to see off strong Tory challenges.

The extra victories would have been enough to fill the 20-seat shortfall needed to hand David Cameron an outright majority in the Commons.

Schools secretary Ed Balls' Morley and Outwood constituency was among key seats where the result might have been different without Ukip.

Mr Balls survived with a majority of only 1,101 while Ukip polled 1,506 in the contest.

Ruth Kelly’s former seat of Bolton West and Glenda Jackson’s Hampstead and Kilburn seat in north London might have fallen to the Tories had it not been for Ukip’s presence.

Former Tories who defected to the Eurosceptic party said that disappointment over Mr Cameron's position on a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty could have cost him a majority.

We did our part in the South West denying 'Call me Dave' 6 seats, 4 to Lib-Dems, and 2 to Labour.

I don't think Cameron will dismiss us in the re-run shortly.

'
Are so the Torygraph are wrong then in their analysis. It seems they believe UKIP prevented the Tories winning in 21 target seats, not bad for a party of 'Fruit Cakes and Closet Racists' Analysis of results shows that in at least 21 key marginal seats, Ukip’s share of the vote proved enough to allow Labour or the Lib Dems to see off strong Tory challenges. The extra victories would have been enough to fill the 20-seat shortfall needed to hand David Cameron an outright majority in the Commons. Schools secretary Ed Balls' Morley and Outwood constituency was among key seats where the result might have been different without Ukip. Mr Balls survived with a majority of only 1,101 while Ukip polled 1,506 in the contest. Ruth Kelly’s former seat of Bolton West and Glenda Jackson’s Hampstead and Kilburn seat in north London might have fallen to the Tories had it not been for Ukip’s presence. Former Tories who defected to the Eurosceptic party said that disappointment over Mr Cameron's position on a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty could have cost him a majority. We did our part in the South West denying 'Call me Dave' 6 seats, 4 to Lib-Dems, and 2 to Labour. I don't think Cameron will dismiss us in the re-run shortly. ' Bobfm
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8:09pm Sat 8 May 10

abbotboy says...

PR VOTING, If the BNP got 6% of the vote in this election, as they did in the EU elections, they would now have around 60 MPs, some result that would be for PR, the current financail mess of this country is the doing of Prudence and his band of ringers, never mind when the next person to come along, as they have had to do every time a Labour gov goes out of office and sort out the financail mess left behind, you can blame them for everthing..
PR VOTING, If the BNP got 6% of the vote in this election, as they did in the EU elections, they would now have around 60 MPs, some result that would be for PR, the current financail mess of this country is the doing of Prudence and his band of ringers, never mind when the next person to come along, as they have had to do every time a Labour gov goes out of office and sort out the financail mess left behind, you can blame them for everthing.. abbotboy
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8:20pm Sat 8 May 10

Bobfm says...

abbotboy, I think if PR were to become a reality then voters would be more circumspect in the knowledge that careless voting could allow the racist BNP into Parliament.

In the EU their presence frankly doesn't matter. The EU is less democratic than most countries with tin pot dictators.
abbotboy, I think if PR were to become a reality then voters would be more circumspect in the knowledge that careless voting could allow the racist BNP into Parliament. In the EU their presence frankly doesn't matter. The EU is less democratic than most countries with tin pot dictators. Bobfm
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9:03pm Sat 8 May 10

Wurz_is_here_now says...

Bob as per usual your ridiculous tendency to copy and paste from one newspaper to another just goes to show what a prat you are. That analysis is simply wrong. UKIP have had no impact on this election whatsoever. The GREENS have had more impact that you. Now that really does say something..
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Finally how very dare you criticise the BNP when you have a 90% policy overlap with them. You are hypocritical to the point of leaving yourself wide open to ridicule.
Bob as per usual your ridiculous tendency to copy and paste from one newspaper to another just goes to show what a prat you are. That analysis is simply wrong. UKIP have had no impact on this election whatsoever. The GREENS have had more impact that you. Now that really does say something.. . Finally how very dare you criticise the BNP when you have a 90% policy overlap with them. You are hypocritical to the point of leaving yourself wide open to ridicule. Wurz_is_here_now
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10:04pm Sat 8 May 10

reality_check says...

'Call me Bob' a hypocrite? Really?
'Call me Bob' a hypocrite? Really? reality_check
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1:37am Sun 9 May 10

Billy Jo says...

Bobfm wrote:
Are so the Torygraph are wrong then in their analysis. It seems they believe UKIP prevented the Tories winning in 21 target seats, not bad for a party of 'Fruit Cakes and Closet Racists' Analysis of results shows that in at least 21 key marginal seats, Ukip’s share of the vote proved enough to allow Labour or the Lib Dems to see off strong Tory challenges. The extra victories would have been enough to fill the 20-seat shortfall needed to hand David Cameron an outright majority in the Commons. Schools secretary Ed Balls' Morley and Outwood constituency was among key seats where the result might have been different without Ukip. Mr Balls survived with a majority of only 1,101 while Ukip polled 1,506 in the contest. Ruth Kelly’s former seat of Bolton West and Glenda Jackson’s Hampstead and Kilburn seat in north London might have fallen to the Tories had it not been for Ukip’s presence. Former Tories who defected to the Eurosceptic party said that disappointment over Mr Cameron's position on a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty could have cost him a majority. We did our part in the South West denying 'Call me Dave' 6 seats, 4 to Lib-Dems, and 2 to Labour. I don't think Cameron will dismiss us in the re-run shortly. '
You really are a short sighted,narrow minded egotistical fool.
Bottom line.... YOUR party FAILED to win a seat .... AGAIN!
Your party has faded away even before it got going. And why? Simple... A small bunch of loud mouth bigots are NEVER going to be treated with any real creedence by anyone. You may pick up a small number of protest votes but that's your lot.
And if you are truly proud of the "job" your bunch of racist has- beens did in splitting the vote and creating the instability of a hung parliament then you sir are a complete idiot!!
[quote][p][bold]Bobfm[/bold] wrote: Are so the Torygraph are wrong then in their analysis. It seems they believe UKIP prevented the Tories winning in 21 target seats, not bad for a party of 'Fruit Cakes and Closet Racists' Analysis of results shows that in at least 21 key marginal seats, Ukip’s share of the vote proved enough to allow Labour or the Lib Dems to see off strong Tory challenges. The extra victories would have been enough to fill the 20-seat shortfall needed to hand David Cameron an outright majority in the Commons. Schools secretary Ed Balls' Morley and Outwood constituency was among key seats where the result might have been different without Ukip. Mr Balls survived with a majority of only 1,101 while Ukip polled 1,506 in the contest. Ruth Kelly’s former seat of Bolton West and Glenda Jackson’s Hampstead and Kilburn seat in north London might have fallen to the Tories had it not been for Ukip’s presence. Former Tories who defected to the Eurosceptic party said that disappointment over Mr Cameron's position on a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty could have cost him a majority. We did our part in the South West denying 'Call me Dave' 6 seats, 4 to Lib-Dems, and 2 to Labour. I don't think Cameron will dismiss us in the re-run shortly. '[/p][/quote]You really are a short sighted,narrow minded egotistical fool. Bottom line.... YOUR party FAILED to win a seat .... AGAIN! Your party has faded away even before it got going. And why? Simple... A small bunch of loud mouth bigots are NEVER going to be treated with any real creedence by anyone. You may pick up a small number of protest votes but that's your lot. And if you are truly proud of the "job" your bunch of racist has- beens did in splitting the vote and creating the instability of a hung parliament then you sir are a complete idiot!! Billy Jo
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9:54am Sun 9 May 10

Bobfm says...

Oh dear such venom towards a party that 'doesn't' matter,

Now let me ask you a question which was the only party that increased their number of votes by 50%.

Now which party meagre number of votes by 11%, most of them in one constituency.

As for creating the current mess, on the contrary 'Call me Dave' is the one who caused the mess for two reasons.

1. Not listening to his grass roots members. Who realised the harm that UKIP could do.

2. Refusing an offer by UKIP to stand aside if he promised an IN/OUT vote on the EU.

So if you want to blame someone, blame Mr Cameron. Now he is prepared to sell out those who voted for him by doing a deal with a party whose policies on anything important are diametrically opposed.

However roll on a voting formula change. The see who rules Britain, for the benefit of British people and those who wish to amicably reside here.
Oh dear such venom towards a party that 'doesn't' matter, Now let me ask you a question which was the only party that increased their number of votes by 50%. Now which party meagre number of votes by 11%, most of them in one constituency. As for creating the current mess, on the contrary 'Call me Dave' is the one who caused the mess for two reasons. 1. Not listening to his grass roots members. Who realised the harm that UKIP could do. 2. Refusing an offer by UKIP to stand aside if he promised an IN/OUT vote on the EU. So if you want to blame someone, blame Mr Cameron. Now he is prepared to sell out those who voted for him by doing a deal with a party whose policies on anything important are diametrically opposed. However roll on a voting formula change. The see who rules Britain, for the benefit of British people and those who wish to amicably reside here. Bobfm
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10:23am Sun 9 May 10

Captain Sensible says...

Not really diffecult to increase your parties votes when so few vote for you is it? Its nice that you try, but a vote for you is a vote wasted just as it is for the BNP, Monster Raving Looney or any other independent candidate.Never mind Bob you'll have 2 spend another couple of years holed up in your South Marston Bunker plotting to take over the world!
Not really diffecult to increase your parties votes when so few vote for you is it? Its nice that you try, but a vote for you is a vote wasted just as it is for the BNP, Monster Raving Looney or any other independent candidate.Never mind Bob you'll have 2 spend another couple of years holed up in your South Marston Bunker plotting to take over the world! Captain Sensible
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11:19am Sun 9 May 10

Bobfm says...

I don't consider 900,000 votes a few, as I am sure most other parties would. The Greens got 285,000 and yes they got a seat. Previously they had tried and at best came 3rd in Brighton, there is no doubt the support Caroline Lucan got from the media did the trick, even the Greens acknowledge that.

UKIP are still by a very big margin the fourth party in the UK, and in terms of their percentage of the top 3 did very well. Make no mistake under any form of PR UKIP would, and should rightly have a good number of seats.

Unless of course you subscribe to the belief that Britain should be rule from and by Brussels.
I don't consider 900,000 votes a few, as I am sure most other parties would. The Greens got 285,000 and yes they got a seat. Previously they had tried and at best came 3rd in Brighton, there is no doubt the support Caroline Lucan got from the media did the trick, even the Greens acknowledge that. UKIP are still by a very big margin the fourth party in the UK, and in terms of their percentage of the top 3 did very well. Make no mistake under any form of PR UKIP would, and should rightly have a good number of seats. Unless of course you subscribe to the belief that Britain should be rule from and by Brussels. Bobfm
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6:29pm Sun 9 May 10

Billy Jo says...

Bobfm wrote:
Oh dear such venom towards a party that 'doesn't' matter, Now let me ask you a question which was the only party that increased their number of votes by 50%. Now which party meagre number of votes by 11%, most of them in one constituency. As for creating the current mess, on the contrary 'Call me Dave' is the one who caused the mess for two reasons. 1. Not listening to his grass roots members. Who realised the harm that UKIP could do. 2. Refusing an offer by UKIP to stand aside if he promised an IN/OUT vote on the EU. So if you want to blame someone, blame Mr Cameron. Now he is prepared to sell out those who voted for him by doing a deal with a party whose policies on anything important are diametrically opposed. However roll on a voting formula change. The see who rules Britain, for the benefit of British people and those who wish to amicably reside here.
Funny.... I've been hearing a lot from all parties except one... UKIP.
I believe during this election your failures fielded more candidates than ever. And still no seat... Something that the Green party managed to achieve.
Your losers have had their chance and should now scuttle off back under the BNP type rock from which they crawled out from.
Self important egotistical nobodies serve only to bore the rest of us with their pointless bleating. We have now had enough.
[quote][p][bold]Bobfm[/bold] wrote: Oh dear such venom towards a party that 'doesn't' matter, Now let me ask you a question which was the only party that increased their number of votes by 50%. Now which party meagre number of votes by 11%, most of them in one constituency. As for creating the current mess, on the contrary 'Call me Dave' is the one who caused the mess for two reasons. 1. Not listening to his grass roots members. Who realised the harm that UKIP could do. 2. Refusing an offer by UKIP to stand aside if he promised an IN/OUT vote on the EU. So if you want to blame someone, blame Mr Cameron. Now he is prepared to sell out those who voted for him by doing a deal with a party whose policies on anything important are diametrically opposed. However roll on a voting formula change. The see who rules Britain, for the benefit of British people and those who wish to amicably reside here.[/p][/quote]Funny.... I've been hearing a lot from all parties except one... UKIP. I believe during this election your failures fielded more candidates than ever. And still no seat... Something that the Green party managed to achieve. Your losers have had their chance and should now scuttle off back under the BNP type rock from which they crawled out from. Self important egotistical nobodies serve only to bore the rest of us with their pointless bleating. We have now had enough. Billy Jo
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7:58pm Sun 9 May 10

Bobfm says...

And how many times have you been banned because everyone had enough.
And how many times have you been banned because everyone had enough. Bobfm
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9:45pm Sun 9 May 10

Billy Jo says...

Bobfm wrote:
And how many times have you been banned because everyone had enough.
The answer to that question is simple.... NONE!
I also have,and have only ever had, one log in name. Unlike some who preach openess and honesty then get caught using different personas to try and prop up weak arguments.
Sad really.
[quote][p][bold]Bobfm[/bold] wrote: And how many times have you been banned because everyone had enough.[/p][/quote]The answer to that question is simple.... NONE! I also have,and have only ever had, one log in name. Unlike some who preach openess and honesty then get caught using different personas to try and prop up weak arguments. Sad really. Billy Jo
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10:14pm Sun 9 May 10

Bobfm says...

Apologises I just get confused with the similarities in certain peoples posts.

Caught out, another similarity. Hardly I used one of my verifiable email addresses to register, and then deliberately posted as me, on that log in. But of course you have a perfect right to fantasise.
Apologises I just get confused with the similarities in certain peoples posts. Caught out, another similarity. Hardly I used one of my verifiable email addresses to register, and then deliberately posted as me, on that log in. But of course you have a perfect right to fantasise. Bobfm
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7:05am Mon 10 May 10

Bobfm says...

I was asked not to respond to your moronic posts but once again you threaten me. So lets put it this way, any time you think you have the 'bottle' to personally confront me please feel free to do so.

However given your cowardly posts I won't be looking for a frontal assault more like a stab in the back. The sooner you get medication for your clear mental disorder the better for you.
I was asked not to respond to your moronic posts but once again you threaten me. So lets put it this way, any time you think you have the 'bottle' to personally confront me please feel free to do so. However given your cowardly posts I won't be looking for a frontal assault more like a stab in the back. The sooner you get medication for your clear mental disorder the better for you. Bobfm
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1:12pm Mon 10 May 10

Billy Jo says...

Bobfm wrote:
Apologises I just get confused with the similarities in certain peoples posts. Caught out, another similarity. Hardly I used one of my verifiable email addresses to register, and then deliberately posted as me, on that log in. But of course you have a perfect right to fantasise.
It was ME you were responding to when you unwittingly outed yourself as a fraud.
You and I both know it was an error on your behalf that allowed us all to realise that you are just a snake oil salesman.... and a rather poor one at that !
[quote][p][bold]Bobfm[/bold] wrote: Apologises I just get confused with the similarities in certain peoples posts. Caught out, another similarity. Hardly I used one of my verifiable email addresses to register, and then deliberately posted as me, on that log in. But of course you have a perfect right to fantasise.[/p][/quote]It was ME you were responding to when you unwittingly outed yourself as a fraud. You and I both know it was an error on your behalf that allowed us all to realise that you are just a snake oil salesman.... and a rather poor one at that ! Billy Jo
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10:28am Wed 12 May 10

Bobfm says...

Billy Jo, just because it suits you to believe your version, doesn't make it true, if you doubt me, I am sure the Adver will confirm I signed up with a verifiable, and identifiable email address.
Billy Jo, just because it suits you to believe your version, doesn't make it true, if you doubt me, I am sure the Adver will confirm I signed up with a verifiable, and identifiable email address. Bobfm
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2:42pm Wed 12 May 10

Billy Jo says...

Bobfm wrote:
Billy Jo, just because it suits you to believe your version, doesn't make it true, if you doubt me, I am sure the Adver will confirm I signed up with a verifiable, and identifiable email address.
Of that there is no doubt. And of that we don't care.
At no point did you intentionaly reveal your true identity to the other posters on these pages. You did however comment on various articles under your assumed name. You then continually berated others for "hiding behind a pseudonym rather than posting under there real names".
Hypocrisy at best. Fraud at worst.
[quote][p][bold]Bobfm[/bold] wrote: Billy Jo, just because it suits you to believe your version, doesn't make it true, if you doubt me, I am sure the Adver will confirm I signed up with a verifiable, and identifiable email address.[/p][/quote]Of that there is no doubt. And of that we don't care. At no point did you intentionaly reveal your true identity to the other posters on these pages. You did however comment on various articles under your assumed name. You then continually berated others for "hiding behind a pseudonym rather than posting under there real names". Hypocrisy at best. Fraud at worst. Billy Jo
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