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Speed camera axe 'doesn't increase accidents'

A speed camera in Queen’s Drive before they were scrapped A speed camera in Queen’s Drive before they were scrapped

SWINDON has proved that removing speed cameras does not increase the number of accidents on roads, the Government has said.

Roads Safety minister Mike Penning has come under fire from Labour MPs for ending funding for speed cameras without first making no assessment of the impact it could have.

Mr Penning said while no assessment had been carried out, road safety was paramount for the Government.

He gave the town, which turned off speed cameras in 2009, as the example backing up his claims the number of accidents did not increase if there are no cameras, when speaking to MPs.

“The truth of the matter is that some speed cameras do fantastic work, and some do not,” he said.

“In local authority areas such as Swindon, where speed cameras have been stopped altogether, there has been no indication of an increase in accidents since they have gone.

“It is for local authorities to decide, and we will work with them, but the public must be with them when it comes to speed cameras.

“The public must, whatever happens, be confident that speed cameras are there for the right reason.”

In October fixed speed cameras and mobile speed cameras were switched off for the final time across Wiltshire.

The new Government argues speed cameras are often seen as merely a cash cow and it was up to local authorities to decide how they wanted to enforce road safety measures. Mr Penning added: “The Coalition Government is committed to further improving road safety but it is right that local councils decide how best to tackle specific problems in their areas.

“We ended central government funding for new fixed speed cameras because we don’t believe we should dictate to councils that they use them as the default solution in reducing accidents.

“It is not true however that the Government has cut all funding for road safety.

“Rather we have removed ring-fencing from local authority grants so that councils are able to set their own priorities.

“We would expect that road safety would remain a priority for local communities and that local spending would reflect that.”

Labour’s shadow transport minister Andrew Gwynne criticised the Government policy citing RAC research which shows speed cameras save 70 lives a year.

Comments(18)

maninthewest says...
9:09am Wed 8 Dec 10

you can make figures and stats to back your claims but in this case hopefully we will get to see more common sense from the local authorities when it comes to speed limits enforcement and the application of such systems which will be seen as sensible with most motorists.

nobody says...
9:38am Wed 8 Dec 10

May not be any more accidents but cars are driving along Queens Drive well in excess of 40mph now.

ItsPavAgain says...
9:43am Wed 8 Dec 10

If scameras are not cash cows then why not follow the example in Sweden where drivers adhering to the speed limit are entered into a lottery to win cash prizes generated by fines from speeding drivers?

Gooey says...
9:55am Wed 8 Dec 10

nobody wrote:
May not be any more accidents but cars are driving along Queens Drive well in excess of 40mph now.
Yep.I've noticed that.Morons weaving from lane to lane at speed

Itssomewheretowork says...
10:18am Wed 8 Dec 10

There have been no accidents where the two cameras opposite each other in Oxford road have been turned off and there were no accidents before they were installed.
There has been an increase in speeding cars but many of those have blue flashing lights and sirens going as they speed from the police station into town. Now that was a smart move.... moving from the centre of the action to almost a rural setting.

Captain Sensible says...
10:56am Wed 8 Dec 10

What we all knew all along they were just a revenue collection system.

VotingFloaterUK says...
11:49am Wed 8 Dec 10

nobody wrote:
May not be any more accidents but cars are driving along Queens Drive well in excess of 40mph now.
Turn that sentence and you might just discover something...

The Real Librarian says...
12:15pm Wed 8 Dec 10

nobody wrote:
May not be any more accidents but cars are driving along Queens Drive well in excess of 40mph now.
How odd. Maybe the speed limit is wrong.

rmc001 says...
12:22pm Wed 8 Dec 10

Itssomewheretowork wrote:
There have been no accidents where the two cameras opposite each other in Oxford road have been turned off and there were no accidents before they were installed. There has been an increase in speeding cars but many of those have blue flashing lights and sirens going as they speed from the police station into town. Now that was a smart move.... moving from the centre of the action to almost a rural setting.
Probably because they thought it was a good idea to have the station between one of the worst roads in the county (A420) and the worst roundabout in Swindon (White Heart). That way they would be able to get to the resulting accidents faster.

politicrat says...
1:29pm Wed 8 Dec 10

what saves lives?
Good road surfacing, and markings and signals, common sense layout and especially traffic lights in the right places, less road works.....
Ban all cars that do not have at least 4 euro ncap points
Make all drivers take a re-test every 10 years
forget about the points system and replace it with automatic ban from
3 months to 10 years depending on the offense
Speed camera have never saved lives and never will!!!!

Mr Blackwell says...
3:37pm Wed 8 Dec 10

nobody wrote:
May not be any more accidents but cars are driving along Queens Drive well in excess of 40mph now.
And yet there's been no increase in the accident rate (I wouldn't mind betting it's actually decreased).
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What a surprise.
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Maybe once people have woken up to the whole 'Speed Kills' propaganda we might actually start talking about, and implementing, proper road safety initiatives that might actually prevent some accidents.

I Too says...
5:44pm Wed 8 Dec 10

A crackdown on tailgating would be a good start

john c says...
7:47pm Wed 8 Dec 10

politicrat, Raises some valid points,

what saves lives?
Good road surfacing, and markings and signals, common sense layout and especially traffic lights in the right places, less road works.....Agreed.
Ban all cars that do not have at least 4 euro ncap points…. If the ban was on the sale of new cars I would Agree.
Make all drivers take a re-test every 10 years…… Agreed
forget about the points system and replace it with automatic ban from
3 months to 10 years depending on the offense…. Needs more thought, A 3 month ban for no water in your washer bottle?
Speed camera have never saved lives and never will!!!!Agreed.

rmc001 says...
12:25pm Thu 9 Dec 10

john c wrote:
politicrat, Raises some valid points,

what saves lives?
Good road surfacing, and markings and signals, common sense layout and especially traffic lights in the right places, less road works.....Agreed.
Ban all cars that do not have at least 4 euro ncap points…. If the ban was on the sale of new cars I would Agree.
Make all drivers take a re-test every 10 years…… Agreed
forget about the points system and replace it with automatic ban from
3 months to 10 years depending on the offense…. Needs more thought, A 3 month ban for no water in your washer bottle?
Speed camera have never saved lives and never will!!!!Agreed.
Interesting - I never knew you could get a fine and penalty points for an empty windscreen wash reservior! Worth remembering next time I borrow the company pool car!

reality_check says...
10:01pm Thu 9 Dec 10

nobody wrote:
May not be any more accidents but cars are driving along Queens Drive well in excess of 40mph now.
Does this matter?

john c says...
4:36am Fri 10 Dec 10

rmc001 wrote:
john c wrote: politicrat, Raises some valid points, what saves lives? Good road surfacing, and markings and signals, common sense layout and especially traffic lights in the right places, less road works.....Agreed. Ban all cars that do not have at least 4 euro ncap points…. If the ban was on the sale of new cars I would Agree. Make all drivers take a re-test every 10 years…… Agreed forget about the points system and replace it with automatic ban from 3 months to 10 years depending on the offense…. Needs more thought, A 3 month ban for no water in your washer bottle? Speed camera have never saved lives and never will!!!!Agreed.
Interesting - I never knew you could get a fine and penalty points for an empty windscreen wash reservior! Worth remembering next time I borrow the company pool car!
Endorsement code CU20 Using a vehicle with defective parts or accessories

Mr Blackwell says...
2:08pm Fri 10 Dec 10

reality_check wrote:
nobody wrote: May not be any more accidents but cars are driving along Queens Drive well in excess of 40mph now.
Does this matter?
Exactly. For some, this isn't about accidents or injury, it's simply about forcing others to do what they think is right/best.
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I would rather everyone drives around town at 50mph everywhere and never crashes than everyone drives at 29mph and there's one crash per year. Sadly, some people don't see it that way.

Mr Blackwell says...
2:11pm Fri 10 Dec 10

And on the point re. the washer fine/points, having been caught out in the countryside on a muddy lane with no washer fluid, there's no doubt in my mind that it's FAR more dangerous to drive with an obscured windscreen than it is to go over the speed limit by a few miles an hour.

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