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Victory in planning row... but for how long?

A VICTORY for residents against an unpopular housing plan could be short-lived as it is unlikely to deter developers from further applications.

As reported in the Adver yesterday, a proposal for 175 homes in Hook Street, near Lydiard Park, was thrown out at the appeal stage by a Government planning inspector.

But while many residents, including campaigners from Lydiard Fields Action Group (LFAG), might have breathed a sigh of relief after that news, it may not stop future applications.

In a statement from the developers’ agents DPDS, the message was clear that housebuilders will continue to apply to build on sites irrespective of Swindon Council’s designated development areas.

It read: “Primegate Properties (Hooknorth) Ltd is obviously extremely disappointed by the Inspector’s decision to dismiss the appeal concerning residential development on land north of Hook Street.

“He determined that the impacts of the proposal on the landscape character area and on external appreciation of the significance of the park boundary by the site.

“The inspector clearly refuted the council’s untenable arguments on five year housing land supply, as required by National Planning Policy.

“In this, he gave little weight to the intention to revoke the Regional Strategy or, until such time as it has been scrutinised through public examination, the borough housing provision in the latest Core Strategy document.

“The Inspector’s conclusion that there is not a five year supply of housing land in Swindon confirms that it is highly likely that applications will continue to be brought forward on this basis for individual determination by the Council on the basis of their suitability and environmental sustainability.

“Primegate Properties is now reviewing its options as to how it can respond positively to the decision, ranging from a revised proposal to legal challenge.”

Councillor Peter Greenhalgh (Freshbrook and Grange Park, Con), cabinet member for planning, said he hoped housebuilders would cooperate with the council.

He said: “I would hope developers will take heed of our Core Strategy, which is still out for consultation and has sites clearly defined, and they look to work with us rather than fight us every step of the way.”

A spokesman for Swindon Council said: “We’re pleased to have won this appeal, and it certainly reinforces our message to developers that we won’t roll over if we believe that a planning proposal is unacceptable.

“That said, all planning applications and appeals are dealt with on their individual merits, so it wouldn’t be true to say that this result will make life easier in future if we object to other proposals.

“They are all different in their own way, and we have to make sure our case is strong and well-prepared on every occasion.”

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1:26pm Thu 19 May 11

Robfm says...

SBC's consultation process is much like those HMG pretend to hold. In the SBC will not what they want irrespective of whether it is good or bad for the borrow.

The Inspectors decision may have been good news for the local residents but bad news for the wider community, SBC have a number of houses they want built, in the end they will go somewhere.
SBC's consultation process is much like those HMG pretend to hold. In the SBC will not what they want irrespective of whether it is good or bad for the borrow. The Inspectors decision may have been good news for the local residents but bad news for the wider community, SBC have a number of houses they want built, in the end they will go somewhere. Robfm
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1:36pm Thu 19 May 11

itsamess says...

Have you been drinking as your first sentence makes no sense
"In the SBC will not what they want
irrespective if it is good or bad for the borrow" ?????
Have you been drinking as your first sentence makes no sense "In the SBC will not what they want irrespective if it is good or bad for the borrow" ????? itsamess
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1:43pm Thu 19 May 11

Robfm says...

Yes Walter, my wife makes a lovely cup of tea. Go and play with your pretend Nuclear Power Station there's a good chap.
Yes Walter, my wife makes a lovely cup of tea. Go and play with your pretend Nuclear Power Station there's a good chap. Robfm
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3:14pm Thu 19 May 11

I Too says...

That's started well children
That's started well children I Too
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4:23pm Thu 19 May 11

itsamess says...

I Too
Could you understand that sentence?
The man does not know my name and is extremely jealous of my occupation.
We have had this article before which
in my view should have shown that at
last the public are standing together to keep our green spaces. I do agree to some degree these posts go off of track with one way abusive comments
sadly our robert does claim he is the only honest poster on here and fails to note how offensive he is. Everyone has multiple logins etc and all are cowards and liars according to him.
I Too Could you understand that sentence? The man does not know my name and is extremely jealous of my occupation. We have had this article before which in my view should have shown that at last the public are standing together to keep our green spaces. I do agree to some degree these posts go off of track with one way abusive comments sadly our robert does claim he is the only honest poster on here and fails to note how offensive he is. Everyone has multiple logins etc and all are cowards and liars according to him. itsamess
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6:00pm Thu 19 May 11

Robfm says...

No Walter not all, some posters behave in a civilised non confrontational stalking way.

As for being extremely jealous of your occupation you're having a giraffe. How can I be envious of anything about you when I have seen not one post that indicates you know anything about the Nuclear Industry, the only debate on here directly related was when you were roundly shown to be wanting by AG, which bizarrely started your attacks on me.
No Walter not all, some posters behave in a civilised non confrontational stalking way. As for being extremely jealous of your occupation you're having a giraffe. How can I be envious of anything about you when I have seen not one post that indicates you know anything about the Nuclear Industry, the only debate on here directly related was when you were roundly shown to be wanting by AG, which bizarrely started your attacks on me. Robfm
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7:24pm Thu 19 May 11

itsamess says...

you mean AG and doug on the farm?AKA BFM
You have forgotten i am very restricted in what i can say and i do not give a fiddlers **** because i do not care what you think. Keep your eye on TS as i understand some important information is coming out on there soon and you know the truth has to be proved there. You have seriously underestimated my desire to fully expose you--purely due to continued abuse from you and a host of false claims--you really outsmarted yourself on radio today as you obviously forgot you were very publicly shamed by your claims of health issues--mainly by CO who is back posting again.
Just like you take threads off the issue and blame others. You have one running now filled with EU rubbish
totally unrelated to the article--so that is ok is it--would you like to blame me or hurl some more abuse?
You do that to anyone who speaks against you as they are all in your favourite saying using other logins and all liars--yet you are the only one proved so.
you mean AG and doug on the farm?AKA BFM You have forgotten i am very restricted in what i can say and i do not give a fiddlers **** because i do not care what you think. Keep your eye on TS as i understand some important information is coming out on there soon and you know the truth has to be proved there. You have seriously underestimated my desire to fully expose you--purely due to continued abuse from you and a host of false claims--you really outsmarted yourself on radio today as you obviously forgot you were very publicly shamed by your claims of health issues--mainly by CO who is back posting again. Just like you take threads off the issue and blame others. You have one running now filled with EU rubbish totally unrelated to the article--so that is ok is it--would you like to blame me or hurl some more abuse? You do that to anyone who speaks against you as they are all in your favourite saying using other logins and all liars--yet you are the only one proved so. itsamess
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7:48pm Thu 19 May 11

Robfm says...

You get more comical by the minute. So now I was Doug on the Farm. I am sure Doug will love that accusation.

So this grand expose is now to be on TS, how amusing. One thing I do know is that Geoff Reid values the integrity of his site. I won't be holding my breath.

So you are no longer denying you are mikbrains then.
You get more comical by the minute. So now I was Doug on the Farm. I am sure Doug will love that accusation. So this grand expose is now to be on TS, how amusing. One thing I do know is that Geoff Reid values the integrity of his site. I won't be holding my breath. So you are no longer denying you are mikbrains then. Robfm
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8:35pm Thu 19 May 11

itsamess says...

Did i say i was putting any information on there? Do read what is written. Wrong assumption. Geoff Reid is indeed a wise man--but it was only a very short while ago you were calling him names on here.
Other than that i will only add to this thread any comments relating to the thread.
Did i say i was putting any information on there? Do read what is written. Wrong assumption. Geoff Reid is indeed a wise man--but it was only a very short while ago you were calling him names on here. Other than that i will only add to this thread any comments relating to the thread. itsamess
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8:41pm Thu 19 May 11

Robfm says...

Ah Walter backed yourself into a corner again so your 'back up' stance comes in.

By the way, 'Keep your eye on TS as i understand some important information is coming out on there soon and you know the truth has to be proved there.' given you are the only one obsesses enough to seek to destroy me, it was a reasonable assumption that you would use your alter ego to attempt it again.
Ah Walter backed yourself into a corner again so your 'back up' stance comes in. By the way, 'Keep your eye on TS as i understand some important information is coming out on there soon and you know the truth has to be proved there.' given you are the only one obsesses enough to seek to destroy me, it was a reasonable assumption that you would use your alter ego to attempt it again. Robfm
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10:23pm Thu 19 May 11

I Too says...

You must be so proud of yourselves
You must be so proud of yourselves I Too
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10:43pm Thu 19 May 11

itsamess says...

I have no alter ego here or anywhere
else. Unlike you i have genuine friends
in all walks of life and unlike you i do not insult folk with false accusations or insults. Moreover the information to be imparted on TS comes from your own party membership.
I have no alter ego here or anywhere else. Unlike you i have genuine friends in all walks of life and unlike you i do not insult folk with false accusations or insults. Moreover the information to be imparted on TS comes from your own party membership. itsamess
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11:13pm Thu 19 May 11

itsamess says...

I Too
Nothing at all to be proud of. He is attacking just about everyone on the site.
I pointed out a very strange sentence
which resulted in a stream of abusive and derogatory comments.
The normal person would explain the sentence rather than drag numerous
insulting comments into the arena.
I do hope you have read the other posts on other threads where i made no comments, that are completely devoid of any relation to the issue.
As you are the only other poster on this articlei can assure you i have no more to say--no doubt bobby will continue regardless.
I Too Nothing at all to be proud of. He is attacking just about everyone on the site. I pointed out a very strange sentence which resulted in a stream of abusive and derogatory comments. The normal person would explain the sentence rather than drag numerous insulting comments into the arena. I do hope you have read the other posts on other threads where i made no comments, that are completely devoid of any relation to the issue. As you are the only other poster on this articlei can assure you i have no more to say--no doubt bobby will continue regardless. itsamess
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11:37pm Thu 19 May 11

I Too says...

I am the only other poster because everyone else is bored of this
I am the only other poster because everyone else is bored of this I Too
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1:20am Fri 20 May 11

itsamess says...

Then they did the right thing and ignored it.
Do you lie? Do you use more than one login? Are you abusive? Does anyone use a different abusive name for you? Are you a coward because you are anonymous? Do you post on the articles? Do you have an opinion?
Try taking that every time you post.
Then they did the right thing and ignored it. Do you lie? Do you use more than one login? Are you abusive? Does anyone use a different abusive name for you? Are you a coward because you are anonymous? Do you post on the articles? Do you have an opinion? Try taking that every time you post. itsamess
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6:05am Fri 20 May 11

Robfm says...

As you are the only other poster on this articlei can assure you i have no more to say--no doubt bobby will continue regardless.

That lasted a long time then.

You are a liar, no member of my party would engage as you suggest.
As you are the only other poster on this articlei can assure you i have no more to say--no doubt bobby will continue regardless. That lasted a long time then. You are a liar, no member of my party would engage as you suggest. Robfm
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6:57am Fri 20 May 11

I Too says...

I am the only other poster because everyone else is bored of this
I am the only other poster because everyone else is bored of this I Too
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7:11am Fri 20 May 11

Robfm says...

I Too you and me both but I will not allow this fantasist or anyone else to continue to denigrate me, my family, our business, or my politics, well, I guess my politics are fair game.

They stop I stop simples. Even when I voluntarily stopped posting for several weeks it just seem to increase the attacks.

I am sure you must have noticed I have refrained from posting on the more sensitive articles, so as not to have them denigrated. You will then not see any of the posters on those either. Strange that.
I Too you and me both but I will not allow this fantasist or anyone else to continue to denigrate me, my family, our business, or my politics, well, I guess my politics are fair game. They stop I stop simples. Even when I voluntarily stopped posting for several weeks it just seem to increase the attacks. I am sure you must have noticed I have refrained from posting on the more sensitive articles, so as not to have them denigrated. You will then not see any of the posters on those either. Strange that. Robfm
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9:52am Fri 20 May 11

I Too says...

And so it goes on
And so it goes on I Too
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11:36am Fri 20 May 11

Smokin Joe says...

Oh just pack it in, both of you. No-one cares about your childish little spats. It's getting to the point where you two are seriously starting to wreck this site. I Too is right - I think a lot of people don't bother posting anymore because any reasoned debate that people might want to have on the subject in hand just gets swallowed up by your stupid tit-for-tat playground arguments.
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Why don't you both swap email addresses, then you can email each other these pointless little tirades without bothering the rest of us?
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Alternatively, you could both arrange to meet somewhere, take your tape measures along, and sort it out once and for all.
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And don't bother replying, because I honestly don't care who started it.
Oh just pack it in, both of you. No-one cares about your childish little spats. It's getting to the point where you two are seriously starting to wreck this site. I Too is right - I think a lot of people don't bother posting anymore because any reasoned debate that people might want to have on the subject in hand just gets swallowed up by your stupid tit-for-tat playground arguments. . Why don't you both swap email addresses, then you can email each other these pointless little tirades without bothering the rest of us? . Alternatively, you could both arrange to meet somewhere, take your tape measures along, and sort it out once and for all. . And don't bother replying, because I honestly don't care who started it. Smokin Joe
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11:43am Fri 20 May 11

Robfm says...

Nice contribution to the thread Smoking Joe. It's amazing how many 'tell us off', but do not contribute to the article at hand, which incidentally I try to do, until Walter or his cabal appear.
Nice contribution to the thread Smoking Joe. It's amazing how many 'tell us off', but do not contribute to the article at hand, which incidentally I try to do, until Walter or his cabal appear. Robfm
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12:43pm Fri 20 May 11

I Too says...

FFS. Boring
FFS. Boring I Too
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