Renting in London 'cheaper than commuting from Swindon'

Swindon Advertiser: Workers may find it cheaper to rent in London than commute daily by train Workers may find it cheaper to rent in London than commute daily by train

WORKERS are opting to rent additional accommodation in London over commuting from Swindon in a bid to save money.

Property website MondaytoFriday.com has said renting rooms in London can actually work out cheaper for commuters who are currently travelling to the city by train.

In January, ticket prices went up by 3.9 per cent in England, Wales and Scotland, while fares for season ticket holders have increased by an average of 4.2 per cent.

According to the National Rail website, a standard class 12-month adult season ticket from Swindon to London is now £7,760, while a single adult ticket to Paddington is £24.80 off-peak and £58.50 on-peak.

Rail fare increases and crowded carriages mean commuters are increasingly considering renting accommodation near to work for just the working week.

MondaytoFriday.com says that it could save users money on most commutes. For instance, a season ticket between Swindon and London is £7,760, compared to a rented room of £4,200, based on the lowest price of £350 a month.

Commuters in Swindon said they understood why people were making the decision to rent in London but thought being able to come home after work was important.

Ian Jenkins, 53, of Redhouse said: “Rail fares seem to keep going up and up but you don’t see any changes to the service we are getting.

“I travel to London three or four times a week so would not consider renting a room in London but I can understand why people do if it saves them money.

“For me though, I like coming home to my family and being at home.”

Chris Watts, of the Fair Fares for Swindon campaign, has called for cheaper prices in Swindon for rail users because he thinks that it has a detrimental effect on the town and deters businesses from investing in Swindon.

He said: “It affects Swindon more because our prices are higher than most other places, so as a percentage increase that affects people more.

“I think there should be a price freeze in Swindon or even a price drop to bring us into parity to other locations in the country.

“It’s unfair we’re paying proportionally more than other locations in the country, and it’s affecting inward investment in the town.”

First Great Western, who run the trains through Swindon, have said that the vast majority of fares are set by the government.

Speaking on January’s increase, a spokesperson said: “This is not about individual fares, the vast majority of our fares are set by the Government.

“These regulated fares are governed by the BFT who give us a formula by which to calculate these fares. We don’t see that increase as a train operator.

“The cost of motoring went up by about 13 per cent – the rises that this brings in won’t come near to that.”

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8:29pm Wed 13 Feb 13

MrAngry says...

Better for the environment too.
Better for the environment too. MrAngry

9:26pm Wed 13 Feb 13

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

What FGW really mean is that the maximum they can raise their fares is set by government.

The actual fare could be less.

Just because they can raise it by X doesn't mean they have to!
What FGW really mean is that the maximum they can raise their fares is set by government. The actual fare could be less. Just because they can raise it by X doesn't mean they have to! LordAshOfTheBrake

10:10pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Captain T says...

The old Nuremburg defence arguement "I was only following orders"
The old Nuremburg defence arguement "I was only following orders" Captain T

8:02am Thu 14 Feb 13

Eastcott says...

MrAngry wrote:
Better for the environment too.
How do you work that out? Those trains are going to run anyway.
[quote][p][bold]MrAngry[/bold] wrote: Better for the environment too.[/p][/quote]How do you work that out? Those trains are going to run anyway. Eastcott

8:31am Thu 14 Feb 13

A.Baron-Cohen says...

Swindon is losing a great number of skilled workers and many companies have already relocated their operations or are in the process of doing so.
Swindon is losing precious assets.....I do not want to sound too negative but unless this council and MPs act now to attract massive investments/investor
s, this town will simply become a ghost town.
How can we compete against Bath, Reading, Oxford when we cannot keep commuters?!?
Swindon is losing a great number of skilled workers and many companies have already relocated their operations or are in the process of doing so. Swindon is losing precious assets.....I do not want to sound too negative but unless this council and MPs act now to attract massive investments/investor s, this town will simply become a ghost town. How can we compete against Bath, Reading, Oxford when we cannot keep commuters?!? A.Baron-Cohen

8:38am Thu 14 Feb 13

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

@Eastcott

If the train is lighter loaded it will use less fuel (a little, but still less). If the trains are still full, then the need for additional trains is negated.


However there are many many many other factors that need to be considered as well.
@Eastcott If the train is lighter loaded it will use less fuel (a little, but still less). If the trains are still full, then the need for additional trains is negated. However there are many many many other factors that need to be considered as well. LordAshOfTheBrake

4:54pm Thu 14 Feb 13

PeeGee says...

The article misses the fact that 2 train journeys are needed each week to get to and from any rented accommodation. At the off-peak rates quoted that's £2380 over 48 weeks. I think I would rather be at home Monday to Friday for the £1180 saving after I had forked out £4200 for a room. Bit of a non-article really.
The article misses the fact that 2 train journeys are needed each week to get to and from any rented accommodation. At the off-peak rates quoted that's £2380 over 48 weeks. I think I would rather be at home Monday to Friday for the £1180 saving after I had forked out £4200 for a room. Bit of a non-article really. PeeGee

5:49pm Thu 14 Feb 13

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

@PeeGee

If your only making 2 trips, 1 in and 1 out, you can probably get cheaper tickets to cover the journey. However you are right in that there is a cost.
@PeeGee If your only making 2 trips, 1 in and 1 out, you can probably get cheaper tickets to cover the journey. However you are right in that there is a cost. LordAshOfTheBrake

5:58pm Thu 14 Feb 13

Tim Newroman says...

LordAshOfTheBrake wrote:
@Eastcott

If the train is lighter loaded it will use less fuel (a little, but still less). If the trains are still full, then the need for additional trains is negated.


However there are many many many other factors that need to be considered as well.
A person renting in London will use additional heating, gas, electricity and other resources in London. They'll also take up accommodation, which means more housing needs to be constructed, primarily for the economic migrants arriving here.

During very cold spells, it could well be that people end up heating an empty house in Swindon, due to concerns about freezing pips and general building upkeep.

As the trains themselves are going to keep running, it's likely that living in Swindon but renting Mon-Fri is actually worse for the environment than getting the train in each day.
[quote][p][bold]LordAshOfTheBrake[/bold] wrote: @Eastcott If the train is lighter loaded it will use less fuel (a little, but still less). If the trains are still full, then the need for additional trains is negated. However there are many many many other factors that need to be considered as well.[/p][/quote]A person renting in London will use additional heating, gas, electricity and other resources in London. They'll also take up accommodation, which means more housing needs to be constructed, primarily for the economic migrants arriving here. [p] During very cold spells, it could well be that people end up heating an empty house in Swindon, due to concerns about freezing pips and general building upkeep. [p] As the trains themselves are going to keep running, it's likely that living in Swindon but renting Mon-Fri is actually worse for the environment than getting the train in each day. Tim Newroman

8:28pm Thu 14 Feb 13

Thesnootyfox says...

A room in London for £350 per week?

I think they are mistaken. Unless it's like airports, London Luton, London Gatwick etc which are actually nowhere near London.

You might be able to find a room in Luton for £350 a month but the cost of commuting from Luton to Central London is around £30 a day so you end up back in the same situation.

Misleading story.
A room in London for £350 per week? I think they are mistaken. Unless it's like airports, London Luton, London Gatwick etc which are actually nowhere near London. You might be able to find a room in Luton for £350 a month but the cost of commuting from Luton to Central London is around £30 a day so you end up back in the same situation. Misleading story. Thesnootyfox

9:23pm Thu 14 Feb 13

MrAngry says...

Eastcott wrote:
MrAngry wrote:
Better for the environment too.
How do you work that out? Those trains are going to run anyway.
Duh!!

I won't make much difference if one person stops using the train but if several people stop commuting they will need less carriages. Also, how many of these commuters walk to the station - most drive.
[quote][p][bold]Eastcott[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrAngry[/bold] wrote: Better for the environment too.[/p][/quote]How do you work that out? Those trains are going to run anyway.[/p][/quote]Duh!! I won't make much difference if one person stops using the train but if several people stop commuting they will need less carriages. Also, how many of these commuters walk to the station - most drive. MrAngry

7:44am Fri 15 Feb 13

LordAshOfTheBrake says...

Tim Newroman wrote:
LordAshOfTheBrake wrote:
@Eastcott

If the train is lighter loaded it will use less fuel (a little, but still less). If the trains are still full, then the need for additional trains is negated.


However there are many many many other factors that need to be considered as well.
A person renting in London will use additional heating, gas, electricity and other resources in London. They'll also take up accommodation, which means more housing needs to be constructed, primarily for the economic migrants arriving here.

During very cold spells, it could well be that people end up heating an empty house in Swindon, due to concerns about freezing pips and general building upkeep.

As the trains themselves are going to keep running, it's likely that living in Swindon but renting Mon-Fri is actually worse for the environment than getting the train in each day.
As one of my earlier posts said, there are many more factors to consider.

The house is more than likely heated anyway.

They are probably renting room only in shared housing rather than renting an entire second house.

Many of them probably have families living in their Swindon homes so they would be heated anyway.

Economic migrants is an interesting one, since most of them are from substantially poorer countries; how do they afford to rent a place in London.....!
[quote][p][bold]Tim Newroman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LordAshOfTheBrake[/bold] wrote: @Eastcott If the train is lighter loaded it will use less fuel (a little, but still less). If the trains are still full, then the need for additional trains is negated. However there are many many many other factors that need to be considered as well.[/p][/quote]A person renting in London will use additional heating, gas, electricity and other resources in London. They'll also take up accommodation, which means more housing needs to be constructed, primarily for the economic migrants arriving here. [p] During very cold spells, it could well be that people end up heating an empty house in Swindon, due to concerns about freezing pips and general building upkeep. [p] As the trains themselves are going to keep running, it's likely that living in Swindon but renting Mon-Fri is actually worse for the environment than getting the train in each day.[/p][/quote]As one of my earlier posts said, there are many more factors to consider. The house is more than likely heated anyway. They are probably renting room only in shared housing rather than renting an entire second house. Many of them probably have families living in their Swindon homes so they would be heated anyway. Economic migrants is an interesting one, since most of them are from substantially poorer countries; how do they afford to rent a place in London.....! LordAshOfTheBrake

10:50am Fri 15 Feb 13

Tim Newroman says...

LordAshOfTheBrake wrote...
Economic migrants is an interesting one, since most of them are from substantially poorer countries; how do they afford to rent a place in London.....!

Er, the answer to that one is blindingly obvious. THEY can't afford it. THEY don't pay for it, either.

We do.
[quote][b]LordAshOfTheBrake[/b] wrote...[p] Economic migrants is an interesting one, since most of them are from substantially poorer countries; how do they afford to rent a place in London.....! [/quote] Er, the answer to that one is blindingly obvious. THEY can't afford it. THEY don't pay for it, either. [p] We do. Tim Newroman

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