Link Centre closed for two days because of power cut (From Swindon Advertiser)
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Link Centre closed for two days because of power cut
10:26am Tuesday 14th February 2012 in Local By Scott McPherson
THE LINK Centre and West Swindon Library will be closed today and tomorrow because of a major power failure.
A spokesman for Swindon Council said they did not know how long the centre would be closed for.
He said: "The Link Centre and West Swindon Library are closed temporarily today, Tuesday 14 February, as a result of a major power failure.
"At this stage it isn't known how long the closure will be in effect and further information will be available when engineers have completed an investigation and assessment of the situation."
People wishing to use these services are advised to telephone before leaving home on: •West Swindon Library: 01793 465555 •Link Centre: 01793 445566
Comments(153)
sn5
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11:53am Tue 14 Feb 12
Robfm
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12:21pm Tue 14 Feb 12
itsamess
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1:03pm Tue 14 Feb 12
Robfm
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1:21pm Tue 14 Feb 12
Hmmmf
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1:53pm Tue 14 Feb 12
itsamess
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2:12pm Tue 14 Feb 12
How do i know the numbers are direct dial--same as all other residents in swindon-we get a full list of direct dept numbers in numerous publications as well as out of hours emergency numbers--like sensible folk do.
Perhaps you should do the same instead of asking such a stupid question.
Punctured bicycle on a hillside
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3:04pm Tue 14 Feb 12
It's like when the WHO issued advice to the general public on bird flu and they never even bothered to ask Robbo about it beforehand.
Whatever next, the chancellor writing the spring budget without ringing the Crapenters?
Disco20
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4:36pm Tue 14 Feb 12
I think it is sensible to use the number everyone knows.
You've outdone yourself here Bobbo...
Robfm
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6:12pm Tue 14 Feb 12
Punctured bicycle on a hillside
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8:30pm Tue 14 Feb 12
jabbra9
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11:19pm Tue 14 Feb 12
greenpacer
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1:36am Wed 15 Feb 12
greenpacer
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1:45am Wed 15 Feb 12
Robfm
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7:29am Wed 15 Feb 12
itsamess
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8:11am Wed 15 Feb 12
Perhaps if you had taken the time to study council directories you would understand this also most council venues when called on the main number will offer to put you through to the correct dept number or/and offer you the direct dept number for the service requested--quite simple really to a normal person.
Robfm
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8:14am Wed 15 Feb 12
Punctured bicycle on a hillside
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8:16am Wed 15 Feb 12
itsamess
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8:59am Wed 15 Feb 12
Robfm
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9:14am Wed 15 Feb 12
tbelle
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9:34am Wed 15 Feb 12
Disco20
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9:42am Wed 15 Feb 12
The amount of time the ice plant fails and the roof leaks...
Remember, all those years ago when there was talk about a Leisure Centre, which would incorporate all the facilities currently offered by the Link, Oasis and Minton Road, to be built on Swindon's front garden...
Shame we couldn’t get it done before the Olympics.. Nor will we after they have been long forgotten...
Jim Royle
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9:57am Wed 15 Feb 12
Robfm
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10:26am Wed 15 Feb 12
'As the power failure has had an impact on incoming telephone calls, failure to get through means the problem has not been resolved and the services are not yet open.'
musicguru
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1:56pm Wed 15 Feb 12
itsamess
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5:44pm Wed 15 Feb 12
Robfm wrote:Bob
Pointless Jim, seems my point was in fact well made as this from the latest Link article says:
'As the power failure has had an impact on incoming telephone calls, failure to get through means the problem has not been resolved and the services are not yet open.'
The number given is being answered by an automated system which gives a direction to press 1 to be diverted to the ice rink--that was at 11am.
I rang the direct dial number for the ice rink which was answered and was asked if i wanted to book. No queue.
Do grow up--the impact was purely customers pre booked wanting to know if their booking was rescheduled or if other events would be going ahead
Most regular customers would have the direct dial numbers for all groups at the link.
Robfm
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8:34am Thu 16 Feb 12
Yes but the Link is back open so they would answer wouldn't they.
itsamess
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10:50am Thu 16 Feb 12
Robfm
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11:01am Thu 16 Feb 12
itsamess
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11:04am Thu 16 Feb 12
Robfm
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11:39am Thu 16 Feb 12
Disco20
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1:27pm Thu 16 Feb 12
Besides, why the hell do you care. I'm sure its been a while since you have descended from your perch to frequent a leisure centre.
I'll await the next article in which you start a pointless debate....
*sigh*
Robfm
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1:34pm Thu 16 Feb 12
gordonchalmers
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6:04pm Thu 16 Feb 12
Switchboards are very much a thing of the past,even then they did not need electrical power.
Modern systems are operated from simple buttons or automatic transfer from any phone in the system. Could it be that you have never rung an automated system which gives you numerous options,or is that a little too difficult for you to understand?
Robfm
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6:10pm Thu 16 Feb 12
'As the power failure has had an impact on incoming telephone calls, failure to get through means the problem has not been resolved and the services are not yet open.'
gordonchalmers
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6:21pm Thu 16 Feb 12
The services may well have not been open,but the telephone lines certainly were, and extremely busy due to reports on the radio, and in the Advertiser.
I would drop it if I were you as you do not appear to understand a lot about telephone systems.
Punctured bicycle on a hillside
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8:28pm Thu 16 Feb 12
Do you actually realise that Robfm is pathalogically incapable of admitting he is wrong about anything?
Robbo cannot drop any point, nomatter how insignificant, even if he is proved completely incorrect.
I'm sorry but as a newbie on here you really should learn the ropes.
itsamess
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8:51pm Thu 16 Feb 12
A newbie; posting yes.but I have been reading the site regularly for quite sometime.
Relatively new to Swindon as well. Yes I am aware of his self destructive comments.
itsamess
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9:05pm Thu 16 Feb 12
Robfm
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7:44am Fri 17 Feb 12
There is simply no way a wrong login can appear if it is registered with the Adver site, which Chalmers must have been.
There is 14 minutes between your posts, had you been trying to prove a point you would have posted immediately afterwards.
You have been sunk by your own lies.
The difference is Walter non of my logins were a mistake of posting. They were due to cloning by others, forgotten passwords etc.
Daniel10 registered and using an email clearly one of mine was registered for reasons previously slated.
You have conclusively shown what a liar you are.
Punctured bicycle on a hillside
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7:59am Fri 17 Feb 12
What it really does conclusively show is that the two biggest mouths on here are a pair of deceitful liars, as if proof were needed.
Incessant bickering and dragging every thread you post on into a slanging match trying to outdo each other should earn the pair of you a permanent ban from the site.
I think the IT department would have quite a formidable task trying to track down and suspend all the different accounts you have between you.
Daniel10 registered and using an email clearly one of mine was registered for reasons previously slated.
Robbo you are probably still drunk from last night so I can forgive you for writing such garbled nonsense but please don't expect the general public to fall for your lies.
Robfm
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8:12am Fri 17 Feb 12
That said Walter has indeed exposed the liar he is. He used Gordon Chalmers email address to me, and has clearly used the same gmail address to register.
I am more than happy to list all by logins Punctured, Bobfm (hijacked). Robertfm (lost password) Robert Feal-Martinez, used to add articles to South Marston section. Robfm, my current one, and of course Daniel10.
No more just these. Unlike others I don't have the inclination to invent hundreds of hotmail type email addresses.
itsamess
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8:18am Fri 17 Feb 12
Punctured bicycle on a hillside
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8:19am Fri 17 Feb 12
The 'Gordon Chalmers' posts of late also included a classic messy trait; the use of the double minus sign '--' as some form of custom punctuation system. I've noticed this on other suspect posts as well.
A pair of deceitful liars.
I do hope the Adver take steps to ban the pair of you and allow these comment sections to return to normality.
Robfm
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8:28am Fri 17 Feb 12
Walter no one has accessed my computer, I have asked you to provide a simple proof like anything visible on my desk top. You can't, not even something as simple as my background.
I have never cocked up Walter, let alone several times.
As for Gordon standing for election that should be interesting. You do know you have to prove who you are to do that Walter. Oh I know the security services will invent a fake ID for you.
gordonchalmers
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9:55am Fri 17 Feb 12
You sir are living in a very surreal world. Sorry to disappoint you, but my login and details supplied to this site are to the requirements and not an anonymous name either. I feel sure the adver would be happy to confirm that fact.
You comment to itsamess why he cannot tell you what is on your desktop or your backgound, has to be one of your defining comments. This shows you have no understanding of computer systems and why you are very easily caught out. Any expert will tell you how access is gained and where information is stored. A very simple matter for an expert to obtain specific information.
Punctured bicycle
My posts have been few to date, but I do plan to comment as and when I please. You have issues with messy going back some time. You do spend a lot of time fault finding with trivial suspicions which do not stand up to scrutiny, The '--' trait is used quite widely on this site. Be warned; I will not accept abuse from you or anyone else on this site. I am quite happy to discuss or share information via e-mail or phone as I have no security issues.
Robfm
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10:07am Fri 17 Feb 12
Oh that would be the gmail account you lent yourself when you sent me an email as Walter then.
Ah so do you have a landline, thought not.
gordonchalmers
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10:23am Fri 17 Feb 12
Talking in riddles gets you nowhere.
In common with most I have a landline and office number.
Robfm
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10:49am Fri 17 Feb 12
As for in common with most, the use of landlines is at an all time low.
gordonchalmers
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11:34am Fri 17 Feb 12
If and when I decide to stand as a candidate I will follow the rules which I am well aware of. Having served 3 terms as a Councillor before I moved to Swindon.
As to landlines. BT lost out to other companies who can offer a superior service with better rates. Internet service providers in general offer far better deals. I would suggest you examine some of these options as there can be great savings on both land and mobile devices as it is a very competitive market.
Robfm
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11:43am Fri 17 Feb 12
Have been with the same outfit for a lot of years, when I mention them to the others trying to sell to us, they simply give up.
As for mobiles, two phones cost us about £2/month.
Ah served as a Councillor for 3 terms, well simple task in finding your profile then.
gordonchalmers
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12:16pm Fri 17 Feb 12
Good for you then.
You should have little difficulty finding my profile; we have a few things in common.
Apologies but I have to meet some friends for lunch and will not be here until Sunday at the earliest when I will be at Walters for the day with others.
Robfm
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12:24pm Fri 17 Feb 12
Well I've found the only Councillor Gordon Chalmers and he is still in post, and frankly couldn't be further away from Swindon.
gordonchalmers
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1:28pm Fri 17 Feb 12
gordonchalmers wrote:Robfm
Robfm
If and when I decide to stand as a candidate I will follow the rules which I am well aware of. Having served 3 terms as a Councillor before I moved to Swindon.
As to landlines. BT lost out to other companies who can offer a superior service with better rates. Internet service providers in general offer far better deals. I would suggest you examine some of these options as there can be great savings on both land and mobile devices as it is a very competitive market.
Do read that post.
I do give you fair warning; I will not tolerate any form of verbal abuse. I come here to comment on articles rather than to enter into pointless debates.
Let me reassure you I do not accept any false,abusive or malicious comments.
I have no further comments to make on this article.
My plans have changed for today. I will comment on any article I choose to.
Jim Royle
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2:40pm Fri 17 Feb 12
itsamess
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4:44pm Fri 17 Feb 12
Sorry to disappoint you-a very good exercise to solve how bob had used other logins to steer a debate.Imade nomistake and acknowledged so.
Do be careful when you point the finger.
Jim Royle
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5:10pm Fri 17 Feb 12
itsamess
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5:33pm Fri 17 Feb 12
You are welcome to your opinion. All will become clear in due course.
Robfm
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5:54pm Fri 17 Feb 12
'I have no further comments to make on this article.'
Face it Walter the game is up.
Oh GC aka Walter what exactly was abusive. Not handbags at dawn again, the threats are so tedious.
Just another number
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6:26pm Fri 17 Feb 12
I see you've taken over another thread on another subject in which you could not have the slightest personal interest, unless of course we count trying to get someone to pay attention to you, which is exactly what trolls do.
You also have your facts badly wrong. The Council changed to a voip phone system years ago. Best Google that now so you can copy and paste something about it in a vain attempt to try to pretend you have a clue.
Jim Royle
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6:27pm Fri 17 Feb 12
itsamess wrote:In that case if I am wrong I will offer you an apology. I will look forward to any further developments
Jim Royle You are welcome to your opinion. All will become clear in due course.
itsamess
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6:42pm Fri 17 Feb 12
Your game is up 100% you mean. Gordon will be with me on sun to tidy up a few loose ends. You really should have a good look at his profile.
I see no threats in his posts--that bobby is your very warped mind. But there you have never been very good at reading what is said--you prefer to let your imagination run wild. Take it up with gordon.
Robfm
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6:55pm Fri 17 Feb 12
JAN unless SBC issue every single member of staff with a mobile VOIP they would need power for the computers, so how does your comment actually help. I have VOIP but if I unplug the base station it doesn't work.
Just another number
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7:18pm Fri 17 Feb 12
It's obviously beyond your limits if you think you need a computer or a mobile to use it.
Robfm
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7:25pm Fri 17 Feb 12
Robfm
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7:30pm Fri 17 Feb 12
http://mobileoffice.
about.com/od/voipfaq
/f/voipneeds.htm
Anyway have to work.
Just another number
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7:30pm Fri 17 Feb 12
itsamess
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7:53pm Fri 17 Feb 12
You seem to have not read that gordon was a councillor prior to his move to swindon. Research is not one of your strengths is it?
Possibly because of your lack of ability to read what is written.
What has computers got to do with telephone systems.
Just another number
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7:55pm Fri 17 Feb 12
Best you also Google 'enterprise voip' whilst your at it. Maybe you should put in an FOI request to the Council too, they've changed their whole phone system and didn't ask your permission. Shock! Horror!
Robfm
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9:16am Sat 18 Feb 12
JAN I will ask a simple question. Are you stating that VOID works without any part of the system requiring electricity.
Because I have done as you suggested and looked up 'voip desk phone' and all say they require mains power, so perhaps you could provide a link to a system that doesn't.
I am sure that one of the many people I know in the Council will tell me if SBC use voip.
itsamess
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10:18am Sat 18 Feb 12
Just another number
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10:21am Sat 18 Feb 12
One can only hope that perhaps someday you will realise how stupid it makes you look when you prattle on about about a subject like you think you know it whilst making it abundantly clear by your lack of understanding that you haven't even managed to understand what you've found on Google.
In enterprise VOIP telephone numbers are not registered to a particular VOIP phone until someone logs that number into a VOIP phone. If the electrics or network fail in one facility, then staff can simply transfer their number to a phone in another facility. With systems and software also centralised, staff can log into a generic workstation and access the same software and systems they would have at their own desk. Clearly an advantage in situations were a disruption in service would be detrimental.
VOIP at SBC is old news, they switched over years ago. A good many businesses and local authorities have done so. I guess you just weren't important enough to be told about it.
Robfm
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10:37am Sat 18 Feb 12
Walter if I am so bad at research post the link that reveals the other Gordon Chalmers (Councillor), after all when posting as him you claimed openness and transparency and nothing to hide.
itsamess
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11:05am Sat 18 Feb 12
Robfm
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11:12am Sat 18 Feb 12
itsamess
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11:19am Sat 18 Feb 12
Robfm
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11:34am Sat 18 Feb 12
Anyway if he is not you and such a good friend that he allows you to use his computer and email address then you will be able to say where he stood as a Councillor, he says he is open and transparent and will provide contact details, I already have his gmail account if you are telling the truth then nothing to hide.
Just another number
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11:58am Sat 18 Feb 12
Let's make it even simpler -- just for you.
If the electrics fail in one building, then staff in a business using VOIP can simply log their number into another VOIP phone in another building that uses the same network, and carry on taking calls as though nothing had happened.
Business Continuity, of which that is an example, is just one of the many reasons why VOIP is becoming so commonplace.
Robfm
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12:14pm Sat 18 Feb 12
itsamess
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12:15pm Sat 18 Feb 12
Do get your facts straight-impossible for you.
Robfm
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12:19pm Sat 18 Feb 12
1. You being GC.
2. GC stating he had served as a councillor for 3 terms elsewhere.
3. He is open and transparent.
4. Only one Councillor of that name, who comes from Mull.
5. You used his computer and email address.
itsamess
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12:31pm Sat 18 Feb 12
Punctured bicycle on a hillside
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12:36pm Sat 18 Feb 12
itsamess wrote:Can you prove it's impossible for Robbo to get facts straight?
Bob
Do get your facts straight-impossible for you.
Making false accusations is not wise--read up on internet law.
Don't forget messy, log out[/bold before posting as gordonchalmers.
itsamess
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1:11pm Sat 18 Feb 12
Most certainly i can--that is to say important matters--i do not make assumptions either.
I do understand your meaning which is why i reset my computer to liars set up--keep your eyes open for for a rather strange post.
Robfm
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1:15pm Sat 18 Feb 12
Must look for such a thing in my set up.
itsamess
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1:20pm Sat 18 Feb 12
Did you know someone on here who admired hitler and his officers.
"It does not matter how many lies we tell, because once we have won, nobody would be able to do anything about it"
I wonder who mafe that quote on BDF--do you need a clue?
Punctured bicycle on a hillside
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1:36pm Sat 18 Feb 12
itsamess
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1:43pm Sat 18 Feb 12
Punctured bicycle on a hillside
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2:03pm Sat 18 Feb 12
And it's really taken a new twist lately with you inventing an imaginary companion. Sadly for you though you messed up at the first hurdle, just like Daniel10.
Classic though, make yourself look silly.. get a load of flack from other posters.. invent a new chum who's on your side.. fall flat on your face (just like Daniel10).
itsamess
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2:22pm Sat 18 Feb 12
If you would like to join an internet investigation team i can put you on to a very good man.
Jim Royle
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2:36pm Sat 18 Feb 12
It does look like you invented gordonchalmers,even if you didn't.
Unless you can prove that you didn't do it people will assume you did.
itsamess
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2:48pm Sat 18 Feb 12
I am not at all bothered as it served the purpose intended.
Just another number
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3:10pm Sat 18 Feb 12
Robfm wrote:Moot point, Robfm, electricity doesn't matter if a telephone number can be transferred by simply logging into another VOIP phone at another facility that has working electrics. Takes about 30 seconds to do and then the service is restored.
So JAN what you are saying is at some point or somewhere VOIP requires electricity, the only point that is relevant to the issue. All the rest of your waffle is just that waffle.
Walter if I am so bad at research post the link that reveals the other Gordon Chalmers (Councillor), after all when posting as him you claimed openness and transparency and nothing to hide.
Capital try, but stupid is as stupid does. Poor chap.
BTW -- really enjoyed that moment when you assumed that the Council had bought every employee a satellite phone. Nearly fell off my chair. I hope your 'friends' at the Council find your failure to understand VOIP just as amusing.
M4 Bypass
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6:16pm Sat 18 Feb 12
Robfm
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6:20pm Sat 18 Feb 12
Walter oh please post the link and people can see it in the context that it was said. Because for the life of me I do not have a clue, but it certainly would not have been in admiration for Hitler, as in the man or his actions.
You really are proving to be one sick SOB.
Robfm
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6:36pm Sat 18 Feb 12
And before he says he simply put in my name in the search facility, it simply doesn't work like that.
Punctured bicycle on a hillside
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7:54pm Sat 18 Feb 12
itsamess wrote:That's exactly what Robbo said when he was exposed over the daniel10 debacle.
Jim
I am not at all bothered as it served the purpose intended.
The intention was to lie and deceive so yes, it served the purpose intended.
Just another number
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10:14pm Sat 18 Feb 12
Robfm wrote:Robfm, I never claimed anything of the sort. I only attempted to explain VOIP to someone far too thick to understand it.
Just for the record there are 5997 threads on the UKIP section of BDF, with an average posting rate of 20 or so, that's nearly 120,000 posts. Trawling that lot to come up with a quotation that I used in some context just illustrates very clearly that Walter is not of this world, he is away with the fairies.
And before he says he simply put in my name in the search facility, it simply doesn't work like that.
Do see a doctor about your memory problems. And in the mean time, re-read the thread and apologise for your lie.
And if I were you, I wouldn't be so obvious in your attempts to find out who others are here and in your efforts to discredit them. Malicious trolling has landed people in jail.
Always Grumpy
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7:32am Sun 19 Feb 12
Just another number wrote:You should stop then!
Robfm wrote:Robfm, I never claimed anything of the sort. I only attempted to explain VOIP to someone far too thick to understand it.
Just for the record there are 5997 threads on the UKIP section of BDF, with an average posting rate of 20 or so, that's nearly 120,000 posts. Trawling that lot to come up with a quotation that I used in some context just illustrates very clearly that Walter is not of this world, he is away with the fairies.
And before he says he simply put in my name in the search facility, it simply doesn't work like that.
Do see a doctor about your memory problems. And in the mean time, re-read the thread and apologise for your lie.
And if I were you, I wouldn't be so obvious in your attempts to find out who others are here and in your efforts to discredit them. Malicious trolling has landed people in jail.
Just another number
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7:49am Sun 19 Feb 12
Being one in the same, that should be easy, shouldn't it?
Always Grumpy
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9:15am Sun 19 Feb 12
Just another number wrote:Oh dear, still haven't got it into your thick head that we are not one and the same, have you?
Yes, Always Grumpy, both you and Robfm should stop.
Being one in the same, that should be easy, shouldn't it?
If you want people to stop trolling, then you should stop yourself. You are one of the biggest culprits using this site. It just highlights the fact that you aren't quite as bright as you like to make out.
Make an effort to stop and you'll no doubt feel much better for it.
Just another number
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9:22am Sun 19 Feb 12
Behave like either one and you get treated appropriately.
Think about it.
Always Grumpy
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9:26am Sun 19 Feb 12
Just another number wrote:You are a liar then if you are saying Robfm and I are the same.
Always Grumpy/Robfm -- I don't trust serial lairs and I don't suffer fools.
Behave like either one and you get treated appropriately.
Think about it.
I don't like liars either and you have just proved yourself to be one.
In future I will treat you with the contempt with which you deserve.
You think about it!
Just another number
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9:48am Sun 19 Feb 12
I nearly choked on my tea laughing at your little rant. Do go on, it's far more amusing than the morning news.
Robfm
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9:49am Sun 19 Feb 12
Something that is repeated knowing it not to be true is a lie. Ergo you are a liar JAN.
As you are in your contention that you never stated or implied that VOIP worked without electric.
'Robfm, if you're asking about electricity then you don't understand VOIP. The world has moved on and left you in a deep dark hole hasn't it?'
That statement clearly implies electric is not necessary for VOIP, which was merely the point I was making, nothing more.
I do not pretend to understand about the inner workings of said communications, but I know man who does.
Always Grumpy
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10:01am Sun 19 Feb 12
Just another number wrote:Pity you only 'nearly' choked on your tea.
Always Grumpy/Robfm -- you treat everyone with contempt, is that supposed to scare people?
I nearly choked on my tea laughing at your little rant. Do go on, it's far more amusing than the morning news.
I'm glad you're amused at being confirmed as a liar - what a sad person you must be.
Anyone with any vestige of intelligence (not you obviously) can see that Robfm and I have totally different writing styles and cannot be one and the same.
However, if it gives you some sort of perverse satisfaction to think that and continue with your lies, then carry on. I in the meantime will just carry on laughing at your stupidity.
Just another number
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10:09am Sun 19 Feb 12
So, you take a single sentence out of context, attach an implied meaning of your own invention, and expect that I should defend it? I don't think so, the explanations I've already provided, in their original context, already provide enough information.
The workings of your mind are amusing, but primitive at best if you really think that anyone need defend against your imaginings. You do realise you can take adult literacy courses, don't you -- perhaps something of that nature would help you to understand written English better?
Robfm
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10:21am Sun 19 Feb 12
They then stated it did hence your VOIP comments. You and I both know you got it wrong but like Walter and others you right diatribes attempting to change the meaning and context of your comments, as AG says carry on doing so, it creates light relief.
Now must remember to log out and log back in and post as AG.
Oh if I'm right as to who AG is, you can meet us both at my place next Friday evening.
Always Grumpy
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10:41am Sun 19 Feb 12
Just another number wrote:At least I am English.
Decided to log in as yourself then, have you?
So, you take a single sentence out of context, attach an implied meaning of your own invention, and expect that I should defend it? I don't think so, the explanations I've already provided, in their original context, already provide enough information.
The workings of your mind are amusing, but primitive at best if you really think that anyone need defend against your imaginings. You do realise you can take adult literacy courses, don't you -- perhaps something of that nature would help you to understand written English better?
I always log in as myself as I've already explained. What a pity you cannot understand my first language - it's written clearly enough and I also try to make it as simple as possible so that you can understand it. Obviously not simple enough by the look of it.
I'm sure there are evening classes available for someone like you to try and pick up the basics of our language.
As to you implying I've taken sentences out of context and placed my own meanings onto your ramblings merely proves you to be a liar and someone who doesn't understand what he's writing about.
Your turn to reply, with more lies and a laughable attempt at trying to look intelligent - something you fail to achieve time and time again. Give it your best shot.
Punctured bicycle on a hillside
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11:41am Sun 19 Feb 12
Pompous, pugnacious, arrogant, a bit dim and took 61 years to learn how to spell - surely Robbo is inimitable!
Just another number
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11:51am Sun 19 Feb 12
So many things you assume but don't know. I speak five languages, English was my first and third, if you wish to differentiate between the variants. As for my heritage, I am of English descent, and a foreign national. Planes, trains, and automobiles make the world so much smaller don't they? And staying safe at home and condemning all outside you own confining borders is very dull, isn't it?
Pity that you're so obviously prejudiced against anyone who is, or appears to be, foreign. Not very PC these days, is it?
Just another number
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11:52am Sun 19 Feb 12
Always Grumpy
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11:54am Sun 19 Feb 12
Just another number wrote:Oh dear, still can't get it right.
Sorry Punctured, that was meant for Robfm/Always Grumpy, not you.
Just confirms everything I said about you.
Punctured bicycle on a hillside
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11:58am Sun 19 Feb 12
Jim Royle
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1:34pm Sun 19 Feb 12
Smokin Joe
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6:48pm Sun 19 Feb 12
Robfm
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7:45pm Sun 19 Feb 12
gordonchalmers
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7:24am Mon 20 Feb 12
I will introduce myself despite the fact you have learned a little about me. One person has of course tried to search my details albeit unsuccessfully. It was put forward that I may stand in the forthcoming elections. Indeed I was offered that chance which I have declined. Having been a Councillor for 3 full terms in another area which fortunately had Councillors who listened to the people and the needs of the area covered. I have been in Swindon just over 5 years and have adjudged I have insufficient
knowledge of this town and what appears to be a shambles of a Council to bring about any change.
Prior to that armed with a useful education I was fortunate to gain entry into investigation (which I do not intend to expand on). I served 20 years. I set up a small business in the same field whilst serving as a Councillor. I set up a full time business here with a colleague.
With the increase of internet crime and the increase of legislation to combat this.
Most people are aware that sites like Google rely on the input from others; which may or may not be accurate. It is illegal for items from sites like these to be copied to the internet. You will all hear the shouts on here as to trolling/stalking etc.
This thread is very typical on this site and why the providers of the service restrict the content on the site as opposed to the hard copies.
A simple thread about a popular Council Leisure Venue and the efforts of staff and contractors to keep it open which has descended into claim and counter claims against others.
How do you view a former police officer who has a long record of non truths on numerous forums. The claim that as such and that he is one of the few who is not anonymous. The only time he posted in his full name he made a claim as to why he was allowed to do so caused the site administrator to post the truth on the site.
As to 'messy' 'walter' 'itsamess'
yes I have a great friendship and professional associationship with him. None of you appeared to have noticed he had reduced his input here as he had achieved his aims.
If and when I choose to comment on here I can assure you all I will not accept the type of abuse he has been subjected to. Nor will I accept false claims.
I should explain I have monitored the site for over 2 years and posted sporadically in an anonymous name.
Itsamess is not likely to be here for a few days as he was drafted into a group and lew out yesterday at short notice. I understand the internet is down where he has gone.
Always Grumpy
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7:41am Mon 20 Feb 12
What an odious little troll you are.
See you in court?
Punctured bicycle on a hillside
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7:59am Mon 20 Feb 12
..oh wait
gordonchalmers
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8:13am Mon 20 Feb 12
Are you due in court? Have you been a naughty boy?
Punctured bicycle
True to type!
Always Grumpy
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8:43am Mon 20 Feb 12
gordonchalmers wrote:I'm very law abiding and well behaved thanks.
Always Grumpy
Are you due in court? Have you been a naughty boy?
Punctured bicycle
True to type!
No, I'll see YOU in court when you take Robfm to court, as you have been promising. You keep threatening, but as always you're all talk and no action. I wish you would get a move on as I'm delaying booking holidays so that they don't clash with any court dates.
But then of course, it might be all in your imagination!!
Robfm
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8:44am Mon 20 Feb 12
Well I've leant or is it learned a new word, Associationship.
So Walters on another of his famous trips to nowhere. I wonder how long it will be before he gets intent or forgets to login as Gordon.
Robfm
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8:57am Mon 20 Feb 12
gordonchalmers
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9:32am Mon 20 Feb 12
Do point out very carefully where I have said or inferred I am taking Robfm to court. Why on earth would you wish to attend court; could be due to the error you made above?
Robfm
Do keep up with your rather feeble attempts at barbed humour. So pleased you have learned a new word as from what I have seen you do have great difficulty with the smallest of words.
Now; unless you have nothing to add as to the article I will take it your sole intent is to abuse the site and deal with it accordingly.
Smokin Joe
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9:36am Mon 20 Feb 12
I'm sorry, but what purpose did logging in with two usernames achieve exactly? What point were you proving? It didn't seem like you were trying to prove any point. It seemed to me like you cocked up and now you've been forced into inventing a persona to cover it up.
It's funny how gordon writes exactly like messy. The incomplete sentences: "With the increase of internet crime and the increase of legislation to combat this.", "Having been a Councillor for 3 full terms in another area which fortunately had Councillors who listened to the people and the needs of the area covered." The same self-aggrandising style. Ho hum
Robfm
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9:49am Mon 20 Feb 12
Given that you claim to have served 3 terms as a Councillor elsewhere, where was that.?
I only ask because you must have kept a lower profile than a sewer rat, there not being any reference to you whatsoever on any political search.
Even the quietest of councillors names would appear somewhere in relation to their position.
So you either:
1. Walter resident fantasist.
2. Not really a Gordon Chalmers former Councillor.
3. A former Councillor of a different name.
So which is it. You stated you would be open and transparent and honest, which it appears so far you haven't.
gordonchalmers
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10:13am Mon 20 Feb 12
I will simply state you are not very observant.
That is now 2 versions of my using messys style. You sir do not post very often unless you have used other usernames. I must assume your are an expert with such a valuable skill.
gordonchalmers
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10:32am Mon 20 Feb 12
Your inability to find information does let you down. Keep trying Robert as i will thoroughly enjoy the moment when you actually learn my history.
Please point out where I stated I am open and transparent.
Always Grumpy
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10:38am Mon 20 Feb 12
gordonchalmers wrote:Sounding more and more like your alter ego, itsamess, with every post. You don't appear to have the intelligence to make yourself read any differently.
Robfm
Your inability to find information does let you down. Keep trying Robert as i will thoroughly enjoy the moment when you actually learn my history.
Please point out where I stated I am open and transparent.
Keep it up, this is one of the funniest set of posts I've read for ages.
Robfm
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10:46am Mon 20 Feb 12
It simply would be impossible for there not to be an internet reference to him.
As for him enjoying the moment.
As I've done all I intend to, I am satisfied he is either lying about his name, lying about having been a Councillor, or both.
He is Walter aka Itsamess, he can deny it but offers no proof.
Smokin Joe
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10:46am Mon 20 Feb 12
I'm not an aggressive person, or a troll, or someone who seeks to have an argument with people. But I will call people out when they're not playing fair. Robust debate and argument is all well and good. Dirty tricks, ie logging on under two names, posting maliciously, being abusive, are not.
Can you also explain the rest of your last post? 2 versions of messy's style? So are you saying you do write like messy or you don't? I don't get it. And you're right, I don't post very often, but I do enjoy reading this site. But I don't really know what the frequency of my posting has got to do with whether you've logged on with two usernames.
And when you say 'I must assume you are an expert at such a valuable skill.' what are you saying? That I have used other usernames? Are you thinking that if you throw enough mud around it will detract from you? I've never posted under multiple usernames, and you have no basis to suggest that.
Jim Royle
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11:11am Mon 20 Feb 12
gordonchalmers
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1:25pm Mon 20 Feb 12
Smokin Joe wrote:Smoking joe
gordon/itsamess: Nice try, but you're not fooling anyone.
I'm sorry, but what purpose did logging in with two usernames achieve exactly? What point were you proving? It didn't seem like you were trying to prove any point. It seemed to me like you cocked up and now you've been forced into inventing a persona to cover it up.
It's funny how gordon writes exactly like messy. The incomplete sentences: "With the increase of internet crime and the increase of legislation to combat this.", "Having been a Councillor for 3 full terms in another area which fortunately had Councillors who listened to the people and the needs of the area covered." The same self-aggrandising style. Ho hum
Like most people, you are making assumptions. Read what you said "Gordon writes exactly like messy".
Could you tell me where you trained in writing techniques to qualify such a statement as I have 2 guys in my team here with precisely those skills, both are also handwriting experts. A great portion of my business is identifying internet crime both serious and minor. From the stalkers to the crims in coded messages.
Both the sentences you quote are complete sentences. That is the skill I was referring to; your assumption is incorrect.
I do not have to invent a persona; more a case of Robfm trying to cover up his very poor skills at finding details of persons. He has been trying to identify messy for over 2 years.
Likewise I did not suggest you had used other logins, but many regular posters have simply changed user names.
You speak of robust debate; sorry sir but you must know this is very rare on this site and generally decent local stories end up in slanging matches. I am not here for that purpose, and have used my real name and details. Finally I had to satisfy a final detail in the enquiry into Robfm. Using the method stated solved as it closed a loophole. No I will not explain further for legal reasons.
Quite honestly I rarely post on sites as I usually do the collation for my team. On this occasion I have sufficient further information. I will stick around as I am sure by the end of the day someone else is going to make a big mistake.
hecate
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1:38pm Mon 20 Feb 12
Always Grumpy
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1:52pm Mon 20 Feb 12
gordonchalmers wrote:Oh for crying out loud messy, you're sounding more ridiculous by the minute.
Smokin Joe wrote:Smoking joe
gordon/itsamess: Nice try, but you're not fooling anyone.
I'm sorry, but what purpose did logging in with two usernames achieve exactly? What point were you proving? It didn't seem like you were trying to prove any point. It seemed to me like you cocked up and now you've been forced into inventing a persona to cover it up.
It's funny how gordon writes exactly like messy. The incomplete sentences: "With the increase of internet crime and the increase of legislation to combat this.", "Having been a Councillor for 3 full terms in another area which fortunately had Councillors who listened to the people and the needs of the area covered." The same self-aggrandising style. Ho hum
Like most people, you are making assumptions. Read what you said "Gordon writes exactly like messy".
Could you tell me where you trained in writing techniques to qualify such a statement as I have 2 guys in my team here with precisely those skills, both are also handwriting experts. A great portion of my business is identifying internet crime both serious and minor. From the stalkers to the crims in coded messages.
Both the sentences you quote are complete sentences. That is the skill I was referring to; your assumption is incorrect.
I do not have to invent a persona; more a case of Robfm trying to cover up his very poor skills at finding details of persons. He has been trying to identify messy for over 2 years.
Likewise I did not suggest you had used other logins, but many regular posters have simply changed user names.
You speak of robust debate; sorry sir but you must know this is very rare on this site and generally decent local stories end up in slanging matches. I am not here for that purpose, and have used my real name and details. Finally I had to satisfy a final detail in the enquiry into Robfm. Using the method stated solved as it closed a loophole. No I will not explain further for legal reasons.
Quite honestly I rarely post on sites as I usually do the collation for my team. On this occasion I have sufficient further information. I will stick around as I am sure by the end of the day someone else is going to make a big mistake.
You really have lost all your marbles with this latest farce you insist on perpetuating.
You've had your little joke, we all laughed at your stupidity, now give it a rest and do yourself and everyone else a favour - there's a good boy/girl.
hecate
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2:08pm Mon 20 Feb 12
idiotic nutters on here again! bad day just got worse grrr.
hecate
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2:09pm Mon 20 Feb 12
idiotic nutters on here again! bad day just got worse grrr.
Smokin Joe
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2:13pm Mon 20 Feb 12
I am not trained in writing techniques in any way. It's not really the point - I'm not offering a forensic analysis, just a general impression that the writing styles seem to be similar.
Look, strictly speaking, yes you're right. The two sentences I quoted are complete sentences, in the same way that "If it rains." is a complete sentence. But it's missing a clause. Generally IF sentences are completed with a THEN, as in "If it rains, then I'll take my brolly."
The two sentences I quoted are also missing clauses:
"With the increase of internet crime and the increase of legislation to combat this." isn't really complete without a secondary clause, ie, "With the increase of internet crime...more resources are needed." (or whatever) OR "Having been a Councillor for 3 full terms in another area which fortunately had Councillors who listened to the people and the needs of the area covered...(an explanatory clause)" I'm sure you get me.
My point was just that I've noticed itsamess does the same thing, regularly, in a way that other posters don't. You don't need to be a writing expert to notice that.
And yes, I've noticed robust debate is very lacking on this site - more's the pity.
By the way
gordonchalmers
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2:42pm Mon 20 Feb 12
Sorry old bean, not messy.
hecate
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2:59pm Mon 20 Feb 12
hecate
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3:02pm Mon 20 Feb 12
itsamess wrote:yes please if you could put me on to someone..not to join but to investigate for me..thank you
There you go then--you do not come on here to comment--rather a case of false assumptions that you are unable to prove adding fuel to a fire.
If you would like to join an internet investigation team i can put you on to a very good man.
Smokin Joe
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3:46pm Mon 20 Feb 12
How long are you going to keep up the pretence of being two people?
gordonchalmers
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4:10pm Mon 20 Feb 12
Quite happy to point you in the right direction as there are some very good groups who help depending on the problem.
gordonchalmers
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4:22pm Mon 20 Feb 12
Sorry old boy I have addressed the issues and we are separate entities; no pretence here old boy. Therefore I shall ignore any future comments.
hecate
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4:22pm Mon 20 Feb 12
hecate
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4:25pm Mon 20 Feb 12
hecate
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4:25pm Mon 20 Feb 12
hecate
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4:25pm Mon 20 Feb 12
gordonchalmers
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4:36pm Mon 20 Feb 12
Good luck with that. They do have some on the ball lads at Gablecross.
Always Grumpy
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4:53pm Mon 20 Feb 12
gordonchalmers wrote:Of course you are.
Always Grumpy
Sorry old bean, not messy.
Robfm
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5:27pm Mon 20 Feb 12
'Smokin Joe
Sorry old boy I have addressed the issues and we are separate entities; no pretence here old boy. Therefore I shall ignore any future comments.'
Fingers in ears, singing, 'la,la,la'.
Jim Royle
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11:16am Tue 21 Feb 12
Robfm says...
11:29am Tue 14 Feb 12