UPDATED: Rooney makes Rotherham switch (From Swindon Advertiser)

I thought he did well last season, but he obviously did something wrong over the summer!

what a waste of talent. PDC told J Wray that if he got Rooney we would get promoted as we did ..........but Rooney didn't play any real part in that ! Still more money for Phil your Pockets with Swindon gold

Didn't fatty Evans instruct his players to break Rooney's legs when he scored and celebrated in front of the dugout v Creepies?

So Rooney lasted about 6 months after signing for a 6 figure fee. Shame as I thought he was dangerous.

Rooney played a big role in getting us promoted - why do people spout so much sh@t all the time!
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He set up Benson on his debut in a 1-0 win and then followed that up with 2 goals and about 7 or 8 further assists - some important ones like against Crawley
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He also offered us a different option to the usual marked out right side
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OK he was probably not a vital as Benson or keeping Wes but certainly gave us a boost and helped significantly in that 10 game winning streak!
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Also how is it wasted money - Rotherham may end up buying him as they have cash (not just from big sales like Grabbon either) so we could recoup some if not all we spent
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He obviously is a top L2 player and possible a average L1 player - which is not what we want
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I thought he would develop more and offer us what RDV is - but that has not happened for whatever reason
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Also how is it wasted money - Rotherham may end up buying him as they have cash (not just from big sales like Grabbon either) so we could recoup some if not all we spent?
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Good luck to him and hope he does secure a move to help fund any future moves we may want to make in Jan
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Sean - don't think the summer was the issue but his performances this year (and likely reaction after i.e. Preston sitting in the stands!) that blew it for him

I am aware that Luke Rooney divides opinion amongst most Town Fans, but for my part I thought that he was an exciting signing by Paolo in the first place, and I really think that Luke has not been given regular games to show his talent with us.
In my opinion he is equally as good or as bad as Raffaele De Vita and Gary Roberts, with probably more potential than both of them.

Skilful but not the strongest or the quickest. A decent L2 player on his day and had his moments last year but I'm not sure he's good enough for L1 at present.

Think possibly paolo is forward thinking. Maybe he knows luke is not ready for championship. But when we go up, he at least helps luke out by giving him options, and clubs in lg1, possibly, laughably, the gills may even buy him back next season. At an elevated cost. I could be way off the mark, but we all know how pdc works now. I think securing madine would be great also, even if it is just so he can do a job and get us up.
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I also believe that as a club we have turned the screw, thanks to pdc, we now use the players to get what we need. Ie promotion. Instead of players using us to elevate themselves. I think you would recognise this in business, where a line manager will get what they need out of an employee, because they are aware that loyalty unfortunately lies thin. So why shouldnt pdc use/utilise his employees how he sees fit. Fine by me.

We are short of MF players yet Pdc sends the kid out on loan??????
Whatdid he do that was wrong.This is all becoming a joke..
OK preston game he is not the only one it's taken Divitta a while to settle now is a semi decnt squad player.
Is sad yet Pdc for time being is the Boss

We are short of MF players yet Pdc sends the kid out on loan??????
Whatdid he do that was wrong.This is all becoming a joke..
OK preston game he is not the only one it's taken Divitta a while to settle now is a semi decnt squad player.
Is sad yet Pdc for time being is the Boss

Taxi
Onwards and upwards

London Red wrote:
Rooney played a big role in getting us promoted - why do people spout so much sh@t all the time! . He set up Benson on his debut in a 1-0 win and then followed that up with 2 goals and about 7 or 8 further assists - some important ones like against Crawley . He also offered us a different option to the usual marked out right side . OK he was probably not a vital as Benson or keeping Wes but certainly gave us a boost and helped significantly in that 10 game winning streak! . Also how is it wasted money - Rotherham may end up buying him as they have cash (not just from big sales like Grabbon either) so we could recoup some if not all we spent . He obviously is a top L2 player and possible a average L1 player - which is not what we want . I thought he would develop more and offer us what RDV is - but that has not happened for whatever reason . Also how is it wasted money - Rotherham may end up buying him as they have cash (not just from big sales like Grabbon either) so we could recoup some if not all we spent? . Good luck to him and hope he does secure a move to help fund any future moves we may want to make in Jan . Sean - don't think the summer was the issue but his performances this year (and likely reaction after i.e. Preston sitting in the stands!) that blew it for him

Blew very hot and cold. Brilliant at times but dire (especially at Morecambe) as well.

Which Luke Rooney was going to turn up on the day ? Worth having a guess or go for a more reliable player and not have to waste a substitute. My guess is the latter.

Shame as I enjoyed watching him in full flow.

COYMR

From what I have seen of Roberts recently I would have been tempted to give Rooney a run.

Neither defend particularly well but Rooney's crossing is better and he excites the crowd.

Old-Stager, Hilperton wrote:
I am aware that Luke Rooney divides opinion amongst most Town Fans, but for my part I thought that he was an exciting signing by Paolo in the first place, and I really think that Luke has not been given regular games to show his talent with us. In my opinion he is equally as good or as bad as Raffaele De Vita and Gary Roberts, with probably more potential than both of them.

make sense of that folks, if you can!

STFC 67 wrote:
what a waste of talent. PDC told J Wray that if he got Rooney we would get promoted as we did ..........but Rooney didn't play any real part in that ! Still more money for Phil your Pockets with Swindon gold

Makes me wonder how PDC goes on about
NOT HAVEING ENOUGH OPTIONS..? Then we loan out Caddis and Rooney...
I know they were loaned out be4 the injuries but at least Rooney could and should have been called back..
At least that would have given paolo another option..

Phil had a good season last year dint he lol..£500k how the donald duck that was ok 2 let happen i never no

Presumably this will free up funds for another player, one who will be pressing for a first team place.

Wilesy wrote:
Skilful but not the strongest or the quickest. A decent L2 player on his day and had his moments last year but I'm not sure he's good enough for L1 at present.

You've hit the nail right on the crust, He's not good enough for L1.
Like the other signings last season he had to be given a 2year deal and as L/R said he did what was asked last season. Although he had a 2 year deal he was never gonna be here for that period.

wurzelday wrote:
Think possibly paolo is forward thinking. Maybe he knows luke is not ready for championship. But when we go up, he at least helps luke out by giving him options, and clubs in lg1, possibly, laughably, the gills may even buy him back next season. At an elevated cost. I could be way off the mark, but we all know how pdc works now. I think securing madine would be great also, even if it is just so he can do a job and get us up.
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I also believe that as a club we have turned the screw, thanks to pdc, we now use the players to get what we need. Ie promotion. Instead of players using us to elevate themselves. I think you would recognise this in business, where a line manager will get what they need out of an employee, because they are aware that loyalty unfortunately lies thin. So why shouldnt pdc use/utilise his employees how he sees fit. Fine by me.

I know i have quoted myself, but i feel i have also hit the nail on the head ;)

How can people say he's not good enough for L1 he hasn't really played in L1. He looked an exciting player last season although inconsistent and reckon he would've offered more than roberts this year. On that note what is up with him??? I've seen him play for other teams over the years and always impressed me and was excited we signed him but he's been dire. Hope he hits some form soon, currently i'd have RDV and Luke Rooney over him. Still excited for tomorrow, hoping Bostock is fit enough to join squad and wondering what the forward line will be, not many options elsewhere. COYR!

Wilesy wrote:
Skilful but not the strongest or the quickest. A decent L2 player on his day and had his moments last year but I'm not sure he's good enough for L1 at present.

Spot on, also as London said.

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Slug likes him

Good luck to him. I thought he was a little inconsistent in League 2 so I dont think League 1 is for him personally.

Just can't make it out, we're so say struggling for players , so we get more in then loan out a perfectly good player.
Makes sense to me ,,,, not

To stigger, i never said he wasnt good enough for lg1. I however thijnk he isnt god enough for championship, which is what we are aiming for.

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London Red wrote:
Rooney played a big role in getting us promoted - why do people spout so much sh@t all the time! . He set up Benson on his debut in a 1-0 win and then followed that up with 2 goals and about 7 or 8 further assists - some important ones like against Crawley . He also offered us a different option to the usual marked out right side . OK he was probably not a vital as Benson or keeping Wes but certainly gave us a boost and helped significantly in that 10 game winning streak! . Also how is it wasted money - Rotherham may end up buying him as they have cash (not just from big sales like Grabbon either) so we could recoup some if not all we spent . He obviously is a top L2 player and possible a average L1 player - which is not what we want . I thought he would develop more and offer us what RDV is - but that has not happened for whatever reason . Also how is it wasted money - Rotherham may end up buying him as they have cash (not just from big sales like Grabbon either) so we could recoup some if not all we spent? . Good luck to him and hope he does secure a move to help fund any future moves we may want to make in Jan . Sean - don't think the summer was the issue but his performances this year (and likely reaction after i.e. Preston sitting in the stands!) that blew it for him

Blew very hot and cold. Brilliant at times but dire (especially at Morecambe) as well.

Which Luke Rooney was going to turn up on the day ? Worth having a guess or go for a more reliable player and not have to waste a substitute. My guess is the latter.

Shame as I enjoyed watching him in full flow.

COYMR

Agree. When he got going it was great to watch and would really have a go at teams and then just fizzle out in other games.
Need consistancy, I love RDV and think he steadily improves with each game but I realise opinion is divided on him.

wurzelday wrote:
To stigger, i never said he wasnt good enough for lg1. I however thijnk he isnt god enough for championship, which is what we are aiming for.

yeah fair enough, thought some said not good enough for l1, but prob agree we would need better for championship, i think he would be decent in L1, but as others have said consistency seemed to be his problem

Surely people can realise that it's not just about numbers - but cover in certain positions!
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Yes we have injury issues but that doesn't mean Luke Rooney can fill in at fullback, centre back or even centre midfield
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It may come to a surprise to some but we have NOT sent our entire £4.5m budget for the year
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Footballers don't receive a lump sum up front - they get paid monthly like most people!
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So by loaning him out and therefore not paying him X for that period it reduces our total PROJECTED bill - thus more to spend elsewhere
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We have Ritchie Roberts and RDV out wide and only Ferry in the middle so it makes sense to loan out 4th winger out to secure another central midfielder
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I would love to see him given a chance like lots of decent guys - but if promotion is your aim then you can't show sentiment
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The sooner fans realise that the better!
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Do you want development or promotion!?
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It is extremely rare you get both!
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Once we are up - then we can look to develop as the target will be 50 points not 90 odd!

I see Madine is playing for Sheff Wed tonight due to injury to Ogrady apparently. Looks a bit like Lee Peacock I suppose and big lad and got 18 goals last season in Div 1. It was said on broadcast that he was possibly due to go out on loan and he was mentioned this evening on BBC Wilts stating it was too late to bring him in this week.
Shame about Luke Rooney would have liked to have seen him given more chances especially after Paolo raved about him so much and chased hard after him. Lack of consistency played its part as he could be very exciting or downright garbage but I thought Paolo was going to improve him. Wonder who the two midfielders are as J Greenings name keeps coming up.

mikek wrote:
I see Madine is playing for Sheff Wed tonight due to injury to Ogrady apparently. Looks a bit like Lee Peacock I suppose and big lad and got 18 goals last season in Div 1. It was said on broadcast that he was possibly due to go out on loan and he was mentioned this evening on BBC Wilts stating it was too late to bring him in this week.
Shame about Luke Rooney would have liked to have seen him given more chances especially after Paolo raved about him so much and chased hard after him. Lack of consistency played its part as he could be very exciting or downright garbage but I thought Paolo was going to improve him. Wonder who the two midfielders are as J Greenings name keeps coming up.

And who has just scored Yes its Gary Madine first goal in 20 games.

Not good enough for League 1.

Never put in a good performance away from home.

Need better quality if we are to progress. Harsh but true so lets get real.
If you want to move through the leagues in rapid succession (dare I say a 3 year plan) then you are going to have casualties.

Jesus said to his disciples, "Don't be worried! Have faith in God and have faith in me. There are many rooms in my Father's house. I wouldn't tell you this, unless it was true. I am going there to prepare a place for each of you. After I have done this, I will come back and take you with me. Then we will be together. You know the way to where I am going." Thomas said, "Lord, we don't even know where you are going! How can we know the way?"

wurzelday wrote:
To stigger, i never said he wasnt good enough for lg1. I however thijnk he isnt god enough for championship, which is what we are aiming for.

I don't think too many of them are good enough for CHampionship to be honest. If we do go up, I forsee us needing another new tem to stay up. Maybe 5/6 of the squad genuinely up to it week in and week out.

Davethered wrote:
Just can't make it out, we're so say struggling for players , so we get more in then loan out a perfectly good player.
Makes sense to me ,,,, not

We aren't struggling for wingers, freeing up wages will allow us to bring in players in positions we do need e.g. central midfield.

Makes sense to me.

First of all on LR, he always seemed to choose the wrong options, shoot when he should have passed and and vice versa. Had a bit of pace. Did not take long for PDC ( or myself ) to suss him out.

All these players that he has signed, using all the budget that he was given, then moan and groan about them being not up to standard. Well they are his choices, and on recent performances I would ? why he thinks they are up to our standard. Not a lot look very good on recent performances. Not gonna name them, but Wes & Macca look amongst the best

I don't like all the public humiliation of players either. This should be behind closed doors. Rant over. COMYR.

London Red wrote:
Rooney played a big role in getting us promoted - why do people spout so much sh@t all the time!
.
He set up Benson on his debut in a 1-0 win and then followed that up with 2 goals and about 7 or 8 further assists - some important ones like against Crawley
.
He also offered us a different option to the usual marked out right side
.
OK he was probably not a vital as Benson or keeping Wes but certainly gave us a boost and helped significantly in that 10 game winning streak!
.
Also how is it wasted money - Rotherham may end up buying him as they have cash (not just from big sales like Grabbon either) so we could recoup some if not all we spent
.
He obviously is a top L2 player and possible a average L1 player - which is not what we want
.
I thought he would develop more and offer us what RDV is - but that has not happened for whatever reason
.
Also how is it wasted money - Rotherham may end up buying him as they have cash (not just from big sales like Grabbon either) so we could recoup some if not all we spent?
.
Good luck to him and hope he does secure a move to help fund any future moves we may want to make in Jan
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Sean - don't think the summer was the issue but his performances this year (and likely reaction after i.e. Preston sitting in the stands!) that blew it for him

LR, you know people hate it when you give an opinion and back it up with facts! Too much fir some too handle. Going back to Pignose at the beehive now, far more cheery than this site at the minute :-)

Some good points about Luke going on loan freeing up wages for new incoming loanees, lets hope so with CM the priority, hopefully a ball winner who can play a bit as well (not too much to ask eh!!) as with Bostock coming back and Ferry and young Louis have the ball players. Looking forward to the match tomorrow. COYR!

For me the benchmark of a good League 1 winger is Danny Ward and Hal Robson-Kanu. Players with a bit of strength and speed, could cross a ball and had an eye for goal.

Without being unkind, other than Ritchie our current wingers don't appear to be anywhere near that level, and to be fair I would probably take DW and HR-K over any of ours, Ritchie included. Harsh? Maybe. But I think fair.

When Luke was at Gills last season they played Crawley, who were managed by Steve Evans. I believe they won and a scuffle broke out in the tunnel and Evans and Rooney had an altercation with the latter forcefully pushing the other.

A few games into his Swindon career Luke Rooney played against Crawley at the CG and had constant verbal altercations with Steve Evans every time they were anywhere near each other. I can't remember now whether Luke scored or it was another Town player but when Town scored he ran and jumped and celebrated in from of Steve Evans.

Now, less than a year later, Luke has moved to Rotherham on loan. Managed by none other than Steve Evans. Funny how things change.

Just thought I'd let you lot into a little secret.

CoviRed wrote:
When Luke was at Gills last season they played Crawley, who were managed by Steve Evans. I believe they won and a scuffle broke out in the tunnel and Evans and Rooney had an altercation with the latter forcefully pushing the other.

A few games into his Swindon career Luke Rooney played against Crawley at the CG and had constant verbal altercations with Steve Evans every time they were anywhere near each other. I can't remember now whether Luke scored or it was another Town player but when Town scored he ran and jumped and celebrated in from of Steve Evans.

Now, less than a year later, Luke has moved to Rotherham on loan. Managed by none other than Steve Evans. Funny how things change.

Just thought I'd let you lot into a little secret.

He started well at Swindon and hasn't developed. Why?

He fell out with Steve Evans (no less) and has now seemed to make up. Why?

He cost STFC a lot of money and is now floating around on loan to other clubs. Why?

Is he going to join the Clarke, Caddis, Kerrouche, Smith, Connnell etc club? Why?

I suspect I'm not the only one asking these questions. I guess the Board must be asking the same. Why?

Onwards and upwards

rednwhitedynamite wrote:
Jesus said to his disciples, "Don't be worried! Have faith in God and have faith in me. There are many rooms in my Father's house. I wouldn't tell you this, unless it was true. I am going there to prepare a place for each of you. After I have done this, I will come back and take you with me. Then we will be together. You know the way to where I am going." Thomas said, "Lord, we don't even know where you are going! How can we know the way?"

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He was the fly on the wall at the recent PDC & SWP discussion.

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