Williams set for two weeks out (From Swindon Advertiser)

A real shame but given the style of 'play' from Yeovil we got away lightly as I expected more injuries. Its a shame Yeovil didnt concentrate on playing football as they might even have had a chance..

Big chance for Martin!
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Would like to see Storey restored to the bench following this and for him to offer the fast forward option later on
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Rooney should be there for if Collins is not performing as they are more like for like

As from the rest of Paolos reign, there won't be any 2 strikers guaranteed a place, but you have to think that Collins and Martin will be the main 2 contenders with Rooney and Storey fighting for that bench spot (altough PDC has often had 2 strikers on the bench tbf)

Hope "beef" could last 90 minutes.....Looks a very good player and looks a good acquisition to the squad.

Given that Martin hasn't had much game time I could see him going with Rooney and Collins to start - purely as they're both match fit....yep and I do know they're too similar but do you want to chance Martin getting an injury because he's starting too soon?...I'd like to see him play regularly from mid Dec once fit.
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Storey not fit yet either.....so again an impact sub is best for him.

Wasn't at the game Sat (work), but listened on the radio. From the commentry it sounded like Martin was a bit of a live wire and a worthy addition to the squad. Like others have said, get him "Paolo Fit" and could be a great for the Town

Martin is not unfit as such - as said just not PdC fit
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He could easily come in and play without getting injured - all it would mean is he might start to flag in the 2nd half until he gets up to our level
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Which is fine - let him do his business for 50-60 mins and then bring Storey on to frighten a tired defence with his pace

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
Given that Martin hasn't had much game time I could see him going with Rooney and Collins to start - purely as they're both match fit....yep and I do know they're too similar but do you want to chance Martin getting an injury because he's starting too soon?...I'd like to see him play regularly from mid Dec once fit.
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Storey not fit yet either.....so again an impact sub is best for him.

god i hope not!! Martin to start for me, with Storey and Rooney on bench. He played just over 45 on sat, if he manages 60 tomorrow all good. Hope Rooney proves me wrong but seen nothing to convince me yet. As for Willo, shame but will only be 2 games as we have 2 week break after sat, so hopefully he will be fighting fit come Doncaster

London Red wrote:
Martin is not unfit as such - as said just not PdC fit
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He could easily come in and play without getting injured - all it would mean is he might start to flag in the 2nd half until he gets up to our level
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Which is fine - let him do his business for 50-60 mins and then bring Storey on to frighten a tired defence with his pace

beat me to it! exactly 60 mins and then Storey's pace to bring on!

The guy is a PREMIERSHIP footballer - even if he has not been playing he should still have enough fitness from training to play most of a game if not all of it in L1
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Granted he will be lacking match sharpness - which is what I put the shot he dragged wide down to after smart turn - but the only way he will get that is by playing
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Same XI bar Martin in for Williams for me - no need to change it
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Options then on the bench of Hollands RDV Storey and Rooney - with defensive cover from Troy and Thompson if required

Just thought the last line - the others are all ready!
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Does that include Navarro and Coke?

London Red wrote:
Martin is not unfit as such - as said just not PdC fit
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He could easily come in and play without getting injured - all it would mean is he might start to flag in the 2nd half until he gets up to our level
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Which is fine - let him do his business for 50-60 mins and then bring Storey on to frighten a tired defence with his pace

I don't think many people in professional football would look at Martin and say he looks fit. 30 years ago he wouldn't have looked out of place but in today's game he's unusual - especially for a top flight player. I'm not knocking the bloke. He looks a cracking signing but let's not pretend PDC is the only manager who would want him to shed a few pounds.

I never understand this idea of planning when a substitution will be made. What if Martin (assuming he starts) is still going strong on the hour and giving the opposition a hard time? If he needs to get fitter but can last the distance, what better way to help him - and us - than to give him 90 minutes in the mixer?

Its very unlucky for Williams as he is doing well for us but he has been injury prone over the past few months.
However Martins looks as if he could be good for us so it could be a straight swap.

I don't give a toss who plays upfront after all we score from all over the park now . Thank god.
Onwards and upwards

I'd rather have RDV up front than Rooney any day of the week. Rooney has been very poor and lacks any sort of control would not get on the bench if I was managing. Martin can play no problem all this carp about not fit is ridiculous the boy will only be lacking sharpness but showed plenty of effort on Saturday. Collins need a run in the team now and I do feel Paolo needs to just ease up on the substitutions of some players and let them have 90 minutes as was proved Saturday with Collins non stop running and goal at the death. Connell suffered from Paolo's substitutions and I do wonder just how many goals the lad would have got had he played longer.The trouble with making all three subs too early leave's us wide open to late injuries. Paolo does seem to be improving in that area and I do hope he gives players more game time. Yes there will be times when he may need to make tactical changes especially if we were loosing the game but he has changed players for the odd mistake but let others get away with it. RDV was the most recent target when his shot went wide of the goal and Paolo summoned Ritchie to get ready and Raffa was walking off even before the lino's board went up. This is not good to see in my view. Only minor issues from our master and the Di Canio express is gathering pace yet again. Onwards and upwards and if we play as well as Saturday I can only see one winner tomorrow.

smirg kcab wrote:
I don't give a toss who plays upfront after all we score from all over the park now . Thank god.
Onwards and upwards

You are right.

Paolo is a star,he knows these **** will try and injure us.

Need the back up like he says.

We will be champions.

London Red wrote:
Martin is not unfit as such - as said just not PdC fit . He could easily come in and play without getting injured - all it would mean is he might start to flag in the 2nd half until he gets up to our level . Which is fine - let him do his business for 50-60 mins and then bring Storey on to frighten a tired defence with his pace

He could easily come in and play without getting injured.. So can every player...

all it would mean is he might start to flag in the 2nd half until he gets up to our level .
So he is not fully match fit then is he ???

Collins and Martin to start with Rooney and Storey on the bench. The rest as per Saturday's team, simples;)

Ollie Reed's Parky dance! wrote:
Collins and Martin to start with Rooney and Storey on the bench. The rest as per Saturday's team, simples;)

I think you will find rdv will replace Roberts
Onwards and upwards

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

London Red wrote:
Martin is not unfit as such - as said just not PdC fit . He could easily come in and play without getting injured - all it would mean is he might start to flag in the 2nd half until he gets up to our level . Which is fine - let him do his business for 50-60 mins and then bring Storey on to frighten a tired defence with his pace

He could easily come in and play without getting injured.. So can every player...

all it would mean is he might start to flag in the 2nd half until he gets up to our level .
So he is not fully match fit then is he ???

Darren i thought it was the lino who was ment to flag

smirg kcab wrote:

Ollie Reed's Parky dance! wrote: Collins and Martin to start with Rooney and Storey on the bench. The rest as per Saturday's team, simples;)

I think you will find rdv will replace Roberts Onwards and upwards

No chance.

Roberts will start hopefully.

Nothing against RDV but an out and out winger he is not.
Last 2 games Roberts is starting to impress. More to come for sure.

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

London Red wrote:
Martin is not unfit as such - as said just not PdC fit . He could easily come in and play without getting injured - all it would mean is he might start to flag in the 2nd half until he gets up to our level . Which is fine - let him do his business for 50-60 mins and then bring Storey on to frighten a tired defence with his pace

He could easily come in and play without getting injured.. So can every player...

all it would mean is he might start to flag in the 2nd half until he gets up to our level .
So he is not fully match fit then is he ???

You going tomorrow Darren? Steves quite. Iwas doing my business for a good sixty mins after the hot dog on sat.

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

London Red wrote:
Martin is not unfit as such - as said just not PdC fit . He could easily come in and play without getting injured - all it would mean is he might start to flag in the 2nd half until he gets up to our level . Which is fine - let him do his business for 50-60 mins and then bring Storey on to frighten a tired defence with his pace

He could easily come in and play without getting injured.. So can every player...

all it would mean is he might start to flag in the 2nd half until he gets up to our level .
So he is not fully match fit then is he ???

You going tomorrow Darren? Steves quite. Iwas doing my business for a good sixty mins after the hot dog on sat.

Just think, a month ago we panicked as each of the strikers got an injury. Of course there's no good time to have an injured player, but now we have plenty of choices.

We are coming towards the start of the heavy pitches, so it's encouraging to know we are getting nearer to a full squad to cover for the inevitable injuries.

Another view. That's a royal "we". No panic here!!

Does anyone have knowledge from speaking to players if they are all on individual strength and conditioning programmes or all in it together?......

jayden wrote:

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:

London Red wrote: Martin is not unfit as such - as said just not PdC fit . He could easily come in and play without getting injured - all it would mean is he might start to flag in the 2nd half until he gets up to our level . Which is fine - let him do his business for 50-60 mins and then bring Storey on to frighten a tired defence with his pace

He could easily come in and play without getting injured.. So can every player... all it would mean is he might start to flag in the 2nd half until he gets up to our level . So he is not fully match fit then is he ???

You going tomorrow Darren? Steves quite. Iwas doing my business for a good sixty mins after the hot dog on sat.

Wont be there mate..
Daughters just gone back to univ so it cost me a big bit of money...SO NOW SKINT

Iwas doing my business for a good sixty mins after the hot dog on sat.

HA HA....
JAYDEN"S HOTDOG HAS MADE A BURNING RING OF FIRE !!!!!!!!!
AND IT BURNS BURNS BURNS HIS ARSE IS ON FIRE...
Fairplay to ya Jay

London Red wrote:
The guy is a PREMIERSHIP footballer - even if he has not been playing he should still have enough fitness from training to play most of a game if not all of it in L1
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Granted he will be lacking match sharpness - which is what I put the shot he dragged wide down to after smart turn - but the only way he will get that is by playing
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Same XI bar Martin in for Williams for me - no need to change it
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Options then on the bench of Hollands RDV Storey and Rooney - with defensive cover from Troy and Thompson if required

LR, Don't expect more than two changes, personally think we should play our best RB if he is fit, captain or not, mac cost us the goal conceded saturday and for me Thompson should play in his natural position and macca will just have to wait for his chance.

Also hope Bostock keeps his place and Danny Holland is kept in reserve, it sounds like Navarro is available, but quite honestly would prefer it if he takes a little bit longer to recover, as present encumbrants are doing fine.

old town robin wrote:

London Red wrote: The guy is a PREMIERSHIP footballer - even if he has not been playing he should still have enough fitness from training to play most of a game if not all of it in L1 . Granted he will be lacking match sharpness - which is what I put the shot he dragged wide down to after smart turn - but the only way he will get that is by playing . Same XI bar Martin in for Williams for me - no need to change it . Options then on the bench of Hollands RDV Storey and Rooney - with defensive cover from Troy and Thompson if required

LR, Don't expect more than two changes, personally think we should play our best RB if he is fit, captain or not, mac cost us the goal conceded saturday and for me Thompson should play in his natural position and macca will just have to wait for his chance. Also hope Bostock keeps his place and Danny Holland is kept in reserve, it sounds like Navarro is available, but quite honestly would prefer it if he takes a little bit longer to recover, as present encumbrants are doing fine.

I don't expect any changes (except for Collins) unless Paolo fears Macca may get done for pace.

Martin is big but so is Grant Holt, too much Turkey or too many of Delia's Desserts :-)

COYMR

PDC could push Macca into Centre mid and play Bostock up top - Sheringham role, behind Collins...

I'm sure the headlines should read willo out for one week ?
After all after the notts game we have two week with no game.
Perhaps it's just me?
OnwArds and upwaRds

After Saturdays performance I would go with

Wes
Macca Devera Ward McEveley
Ritchie Ferry Bostock Roberts
Storey Collins

Subs
Martin for Storey
Hollands for Bostock
RDV for Roberts

I'd like to have Storey's pace on from the start to give that something different, but it could well be Martin starts, Storey comes on. Either way would work.

To split up the excellent Devera and Ward would be foolish, so Macca will prob stay at rb. Shame for Nathan.

Question is when does Ferry get a rest - Paolo has said he is concerned about flogging him to death - but we don't have that type of player to do all the running so would be a big loss if he didn't start.

Dare I mention Paul Benson as an option?

Sorry, PDC just got rid of him!!!

And PDC replaced him with the fat lad from Norwich, who clearly ate all the pies!!

joey butler wrote:
Dare I mention Paul Benson as an option?

Sorry, PDC just got rid of him!!!

And PDC replaced him with the fat lad from Norwich, who clearly ate all the pies!!

Well JB that fad lad Martin will be ten times the player Benson is or was and if you noticed Benson played for Pompey Saturday and was given a poor mark of 5 in the papers. In fairness Benson's level is Div 2 and Charlton got rid for the reason that he is past it at this level. Talking about eating pies I get the feeling Martin will make you eat your words and in the name of good old Blakey from On The Buses "I hate you Butler".

mikek wrote:

joey butler wrote:
Dare I mention Paul Benson as an option?

Sorry, PDC just got rid of him!!!

And PDC replaced him with the fat lad from Norwich, who clearly ate all the pies!!

Well JB that fad lad Martin will be ten times the player Benson is or was and if you noticed Benson played for Pompey Saturday and was given a poor mark of 5 in the papers. In fairness Benson's level is Div 2 and Charlton got rid for the reason that he is past it at this level. Talking about eating pies I get the feeling Martin will make you eat your words and in the name of good old Blakey from On The Buses "I hate you Butler".

Why do you hate me Mike?

Paolo flogging playerrrrs to death?

Maybe that happened to Paul Caddis?

This is how we work,Italiano style.

joey butler wrote:

mikek wrote:

joey butler wrote:
Dare I mention Paul Benson as an option?

Sorry, PDC just got rid of him!!!

And PDC replaced him with the fat lad from Norwich, who clearly ate all the pies!!

Well JB that fad lad Martin will be ten times the player Benson is or was and if you noticed Benson played for Pompey Saturday and was given a poor mark of 5 in the papers. In fairness Benson's level is Div 2 and Charlton got rid for the reason that he is past it at this level. Talking about eating pies I get the feeling Martin will make you eat your words and in the name of good old Blakey from On The Buses "I hate you Butler".

Why do you hate me Mike?

Do you really need me to tell you why JB I think you should be able to work that out, your history on this forum goes before you.

mikek wrote:

joey butler wrote:

mikek wrote:

joey butler wrote: Dare I mention Paul Benson as an option? Sorry, PDC just got rid of him!!! And PDC replaced him with the fat lad from Norwich, who clearly ate all the pies!!

Well JB that fad lad Martin will be ten times the player Benson is or was and if you noticed Benson played for Pompey Saturday and was given a poor mark of 5 in the papers. In fairness Benson's level is Div 2 and Charlton got rid for the reason that he is past it at this level. Talking about eating pies I get the feeling Martin will make you eat your words and in the name of good old Blakey from On The Buses "I hate you Butler".

Why do you hate me Mike?

Do you really need me to tell you why JB I think you should be able to work that out, your history on this forum goes before you.

Joey's new mix of groundbait seems to be working :-)

Must be the added sarcasm.

COYMR

Oxon-Red wrote:

mikek wrote:

joey butler wrote:

mikek wrote:

joey butler wrote: Dare I mention Paul Benson as an option? Sorry, PDC just got rid of him!!! And PDC replaced him with the fat lad from Norwich, who clearly ate all the pies!!

Well JB that fad lad Martin will be ten times the player Benson is or was and if you noticed Benson played for Pompey Saturday and was given a poor mark of 5 in the papers. In fairness Benson's level is Div 2 and Charlton got rid for the reason that he is past it at this level. Talking about eating pies I get the feeling Martin will make you eat your words and in the name of good old Blakey from On The Buses "I hate you Butler".

Why do you hate me Mike?

Do you really need me to tell you why JB I think you should be able to work that out, your history on this forum goes before you.

Joey's new mix of groundbait seems to be working :-)

Must be the added sarcasm.

COYMR

Nine comment Oxon,

We used to catch massive Bream at Coate Water all those years ago, but only after the correct groundbait.

Thank you Oxon.

sorry, 'nice'

mikek wrote:

joey butler wrote:

mikek wrote:

joey butler wrote:
Dare I mention Paul Benson as an option?

Sorry, PDC just got rid of him!!!

And PDC replaced him with the fat lad from Norwich, who clearly ate all the pies!!

Well JB that fad lad Martin will be ten times the player Benson is or was and if you noticed Benson played for Pompey Saturday and was given a poor mark of 5 in the papers. In fairness Benson's level is Div 2 and Charlton got rid for the reason that he is past it at this level. Talking about eating pies I get the feeling Martin will make you eat your words and in the name of good old Blakey from On The Buses "I hate you Butler".

Why do you hate me Mike?

Do you really need me to tell you why JB I think you should be able to work that out, your history on this forum goes before you.

So why not answer my question please Mike?

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Another view. That's a royal "we". No panic here!! Does anyone have knowledge from speaking to players if they are all on individual strength and conditioning programmes or all in it together?......

The Academy players from U13 up have got their own personalised fitness programs so I guess the first team must have. And no doubt it will be a lot more detailed than the Academy players programs

joey butler wrote:

Oxon-Red wrote:

mikek wrote:

joey butler wrote:

mikek wrote:

joey butler wrote: Dare I mention Paul Benson as an option? Sorry, PDC just got rid of him!!! And PDC replaced him with the fat lad from Norwich, who clearly ate all the pies!!

Well JB that fad lad Martin will be ten times the player Benson is or was and if you noticed Benson played for Pompey Saturday and was given a poor mark of 5 in the papers. In fairness Benson's level is Div 2 and Charlton got rid for the reason that he is past it at this level. Talking about eating pies I get the feeling Martin will make you eat your words and in the name of good old Blakey from On The Buses "I hate you Butler".

Why do you hate me Mike?

Do you really need me to tell you why JB I think you should be able to work that out, your history on this forum goes before you.

Joey's new mix of groundbait seems to be working :-) Must be the added sarcasm. COYMR

Nine comment Oxon, We used to catch massive Bream at Coate Water all those years ago, but only after the correct groundbait. Thank you Oxon.

So did I JB -they didn't fight much did they - unlike some of the sparring on here lol!

We once caught such a load the Adver came along and took a photo of us nippers as we were then with this mass of skimmer bream - horrible slimy things as I recall - the fish I mean :)