MATCHDAY LIVE: Notts County v Swindon Town

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  • REPORTING BY SAM MORSHEAD
  • Robins visit Notts County in League One
  • FT: County 1 (Judge 27) Town 0
  • Judge wins it for the hosts with first-half goal
  • Collins hits a post and has a goal disallowed for offside
  • Bialkowski in inspired form in the Notts goal

5:45pm

Two weeks without a first-team game now for Swindon Town - a chance to get players fit and raring to go for the visit of Doncaster on December 8.

We'll bring you all the updates from that game, and from the FA Youth Cup match against Liverpool on December 4 if you can't make it down to the County Ground.

Until then, as we make our way back to Wiltshire through the driving rain, good evening.

5:29pm

YOUR SAY

5:28pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Robinonfire says

To many changes by PDC have cost us points.

Should of started with Storey and Martin.

5:29pm

More of Paolo Di Canio's post-match reaction...

"Once again the mechanism and the fitness levels had us on top of the opponents.

"Today we gave a better performance than Brentford.

"Every manager in the world is frustrated when he sees their team give their best but when they lose a bit of energy lost their confidence.

Swindon Advertiser: Paolo Di Canio celebrates Town's winner last Saturday

PAOLO DI CANIO

"This is why we cannot be at the top. We can't turn them into winning players already.

"One way we will improve the finishing in front of the goal.

"When individuals have to make the right decisions we are weak. If we stay top eight, seven, 10 before December we will have some freshness to help us have a comfortable season."

5:26pm

YOUR SAY

5:25pm

More from Paolo Di Canio now...

"The goalkeeper made three good saves, one from Darren Ward was amazing like it was Schmeichel from Man United.

"He was crucial for them, he was the best player on the field. 

"This is why the people have to understand not to dream. The players will give their best but this is the quality we've got.

Swindon Advertiser: Bartosz Bialkowski

PAOLO DI CANIO THOUGHT PAOLO DI CANIO WAS THE BEST PLAYER ON THE PITCH TODAY

"Physically we were on top, after 10 minutes it was clear that Swindon should win this game. But they had pedigree up front.

"Andy Williams for 70 yuards is better than Darren Bent, the problem is the last 10 yards. Sometimes he will drive us crazy but sometimes very happy."

5:23pm

Paolo Di Canio's post-match views: "We dominated for most of the game and we go away thinking we conceded one shot from 30 yards and one from seven yards in all the game.

"I counted 20 potential chances where only four were not good decisions or not good delivery.

"We are middle to low table with our mechanism and our job. Today the team never game the sensation that they would sink.

Swindon Advertiser: Tough task master Paolo Di Canio

PAOLO DI CANIO

"The system brings my players close there but in the final action I can't put in my hand or my foot. I'm a little bit disappointed but it's clear that my job and my staff's job is on the field.

"We can see that we can have a comfortable season. Every game we create seven or eight clear chances but maybe we don't score."

5:16pm

We're still waiting for Paolo Di Canio to emerge for his post-match interview.

5:11pm

YOUR SAY

5:10pm

YOUR SAY

5:08pm Sat 24 Nov 12

wurzelday says

Lets just hear what pdc has to say first before slating him. He will be angry because he wants us to do well. We played well today. Notts county are a good side.

5:08pm

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5:08pm

5:07pm

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5:06pm

YOUR SAY

5:01pm Sat 24 Nov 12

DarrenSTFCRomain says

We were very very unlucky 2day..
Plenty of chances but we come up against a goal keeper that was haveing the game of his life..

5:04pm

Town drop to eighth place, two points off the play-offs, following today's defeat.

5:01pm

YOUR SAY

5:00pm

YOUR SAY

4:59pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Div Four Champs 85/86 says

What excuses will we hear in the next half hour, I suspect it won't be his (PDC) fault as usual

5:00pm

LEAGUE ONE FULL-TIMES

Brentford 2 Sheffield United 0; Bury 2 Bournemouth 2; Coventry 1 Portsmouth 1; Crewe 2 Crawley 0; Doncaster 4 Scunthorpe 0; Leyton Orient 2 Preston 0; MK Dons 5 Colchester 1; Notts County 1 Swindon 0; Oldham 1 Shrewsbury 0; Stevenage 1 Tranmere 1; Walsall 1 Hartlepool 1; Yeovil 1 Carlisle 3.

4:57pm

FULL-TIME

Notts County 1 (Alan Judge 27) Swindon Town 0

This was a very good performance by Town, who pushed and prodded and probed all game but couldn't find a way past the inspired Notts goalkeeper Bartosz Bialkowski.

The Pole made at least seven superb saves to keep his team in front after Alan Judge's rasping 27th-minute drive opened the scoring.

James Collins hit a post and had a header disallowed for offside, while Darren Ward and Matt Ritchie were both prevented from netting by the sensational Bialkowski.

Full marks for effort and endeavour for Swindon Town. An unfortunate result.

4:53pm

90 mins: Matt Ritchie's drive from 25 yards is saved by Bartosz Bialkowski. Moments later the Notts keeper gets back to push Jay McEveley's cross over when it looked for all the world like it would loop in.

4:52pm

NOTTS COUNTY SUBSTITUTION

90 mins: Yoann Arquin replaces Andre Boucard

4:51pm

YELLOW CARD

90 mins: Dean Leacock goes into the book

4:48pm

87 mins: Matt Ritchie's bullet free-kick is, guess what, saved by Bartosz Bialkowski.

4:48pm

86 mins: Referee Robert Madley accidently robs Danny Hollands of possession and the deflection falls into Joss Labadie's path, but the sub fires wide.

4:45pm

YELLOW CARD

84 mins: Alan McCormack goes into thebook for persistent fouling.

4:43pm

NOTTS COUNTY SUBSTITUTION

82 mins: Carl Regan replaces Julian Kelly

4:40pm

Today's attendance is 6,383 (815 from Swindon)

4:38pm

NOTTS COUNTY SUBSTITUTION

77 mins: Joss Labadie replaces Francois Zoko

4:30pm

TOWN SUBSTITUTION

69 mins: Gary Roberts replaces Raffa De Vita, who had gone down with cramp moments earlier.

4:24pm

63 mins: Another extraordinary save from Bartrosz Bialkowski to deny Darren Ward's header from little more than a yard. The Notts stopper is having a wonder game.

4:20pm

Paolo Di Canio is getting a talking to from referee Robert Madley as he continues to venture out of his technical area.

4:18pm

YELLOW CARD

47 mins: Danny Hollands goes in the book for a lunge on Alan Judge in midfield.

4:18pm

57 mins: Bartosz Bialkowski gets down very well to save from Matt Ritchie as he turns sharply to shoot in the box.

4:16pm

TOWN SUBSTITUTION

54 mins: Chris Martin replaces James Collins, who has had a decent game up front for the Robins.

4:13pm

52 mins: That's an extraordinary save from point-blank range by Wes Foderingham to deny Chris Iwelumo's header. Brilliant stuff

4:12pm

51 mins: Raffa De Vita releases Jay McEveley down the left channel but his poor shot is well wide

4:04pm

We're off and running in the second half.

4:03pm

TOWN SUBSTITUTION

46 mins: Danny Hollands replaces John Bostock. Bostock was given his final warning late in the first half for a foul after he had been booked within 15 minutes.

4:02pm

The teams are back out at Meadow Lane, where Town need to come from behind if they are to take anything from today's game.

4:00pm

Former Swindon Town defender Sean Morrison has scored his first Premier League goal.

Morrison netted after 35 minutes to put Reading in front at Wigan this afternoon.

3:57pm

HALF-TIME ENTERTAINMENT

Paolo Di Canio was also quick to suggest that dismissals such as Roberto Di Matteo’s happen on a regular basis in world football.

But what if it happened to him?

He said: “It’s like if tomorrow someone make a mad decision and sacked Paolo Di Canio because we are sixth. It can happen. I know that there are no mad people in the board, but who knows if they go mad even if they don’t know football.

“They say ‘we spent this year maybe the second spending in the league so we have to stay second’ and maybe they can be mad. It can happen. Do you say that is right?

Swindon Advertiser: Paolo Di Canio

PAOLO DI CANIO

“I presume, like it happened last year, with Lee Clark at Huddersfield when they were fourth in the table and all said they are mad.

“At the end they were right because they went up with the last penalty. But nine times in 10 they finish badly and people say they’re mad.

“It’s the same, even if someone would celebrate and dance at the club.

“It would be clear that it’s not for football, there are other reasons. Sometimes when a manager is sacked it can hurt you but it’s a sort of graduation – not a humiliation or defeat.

“For example if tomorrow or in 10 games’  time we are midtable and I am sacked and it will be a sort of graduation because it will come from people who don’t know football, only numbers and economics.

“I don’t want to say it’s exactly the same at Chelsea but the marriage didn’t start well in the summer and they waited for the moment to send him out. It’s the first moment that they don’t play well and get results.”

3:54pm

HALF-TIME ENTERTAINMENT

This week saw the sacking of Chelsea boss Roberto Di Matteo.

Swindon manager Paolo Di Canio had plenty to say on the matter at his pre-match press conference on Thursday.

He said: “It can’t be the excuse of the last eight results. The marriage didn’t start well in the summer. He won  the Champions League – which had never happened in the history of this club – and an FA Cup in four months.

Swindon Advertiser: Chelsea players celebrate as they lift the UEFA Champions League trophy at the Allianz Arena, Munich, Germany

CHELSEA WON THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE UNDER DI MATTEO

“We can discuss it wasn’t attractive football but did they change their manager from Villas-Boas because they wanted attractive football? No.

“In four months he was capable to do this and then he took two months to resign the contract then they gave him the opportunity to buy many players and spend a fortune. He deserved minimum more time.

“I don’t think there is one person who is around football, even in the media, who think that it is right and it is a technical decision – even if their results are not very good at the moment."

3:52pm

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3:51pm

LEAGUE ONE HALF-TIMES

Brentford 2 Sheffield United 0; Bury 1 Bournemouth 0; Coventry 1 Portsmouth 0; Crewe 0 Crawley 0; Doncaster 1 Scunthorpe 0; Leyton Orient 1 Preston 0; MK Dons 2 Colchester 0; Notts County 1 Swindon 0; Oldham 1 Shrewsbury 0; Stevenage 0 Tranmere 0; Walsall 0 Hartlepool 1; Yeovil 0 Carlisle 1.

3:47pm

HALF-TIME: Notts County 1 (Judge, 27) Swindon Town 0

Town have played well in patches after coming under the cosh early on in the opening period here at Meadow Lane, and James Collins hit a post as the Robins dominated a 10-minute period in the middle of the half.

However, Alan  Judge's superb finish from 20 yards sepearates the teams at the break. Collins had a header ruled out for offside.

Plenty of positives from a Town point of view going into the second period.

3:43pm

41 mins: A free-kick 25 yards from goal is laid off to Matt Ritchie, whose piledriver from 30 yards is well held by Bartosz Bialkowski.

3:38pm

36 mins: Matt Ritchie drills wide from 25 yards. Was always going to be optimistic shooting from there.

3:35pm

32 mins: James Collins' header from Andy Williams' cross finds the back of the net but it is disallowed for offside.

It's the right decision but it took the linesman an eternity to stick his flag up.

3:29pm

GOAL

Notts County 1 (Alan Judge, 27) Swindon Town 0

Swindon have dominate for the last 10 minutes but it is the hosts who take thelead whenAlan Judge picks up the ball inside the Town half and unleashes a powerful drive from 20 yards which leaves Wes Foderingham with no chance.

3:25pm

21 mins: Another brilliant save by Bartosz Bialkowski to turn James Collins’ flick onto a post, then Joe Devera heads Jay McEveley’s cross onto the roof of the net.

3:23pm

20 mins: Great save from Bartosz Bialkowski to deny Andy Williams low to his left.

3:22pm

19 mins: Neal Bishop's shot from close range is well saved by Wes Foderingham and Joe Devera clears for a corner, from which Jeff Hughes nods agonisingly wide. So many chances for County.

3:19pm

15 mins: Jeff Hughes' left-footed volley gets a deflection and bounces safely into Wes Foderingham's arms. Town getting ripped to shreds down their right.

3:16pm

13 mins: Alan Sheehan’s free-kick from the edge of the area is pushed over the top of his ow  crossbar by Wes Foderingham. County fail to take advantage of successive corners and Swindon clear.

3:14pm

YELLOW CARD

12 mins: John Bostock booked for a foul on the edge of the box.

3:10pm

Seven mins: Neal Bishop's drive from the edge of the area is headed for the top corner but his teammate Alan Judge blocks it en route to goal. Let-off for Town.

3:08pm

Five mins: Alan McCormack's long free-kick picks out Raffa De Vita who heads it across goal and James Collins can't slide the ball home from close range.

3:04pm

Two mins: Wes Foderingham does well to get down and save Alan Judge's shot from 12 yards.

3:00pm

We're under way at Meadow Lane: Notts County vs Swindon Town in League One.

2:57pm

The teams are out at a very damp Meadow Lane. Conditions not suited to top-quality football.

2:55pm

YOUR SAY

Remember, ‘Matchday Live’ is not just about us spouting nonsense for five hours at a time. It’s a forum for Swindon Town fans’ views on everything going on at SN1 at present.

Whether it’s Paolo Di Canio’s team selection or dealing with the M1 in the pouring rain we want to hear from you.

And there are plenty of ways to get involved over the course of the afternoon – all of which are conveniently listed below.

l Twitter – if you’re Tweet-friendly then use the hashtag #stfcadver to have your say, and follow chief sports writer Sam Morshead (@SamMorshead_SA) throughout the game for up-to-the-second commentary.

l Comment – the box below is ready for use. If the comments are sensible and clean then they may well find themselves inserted into the live blog later today.

l Email – you can always pop us an email, just send your ramblings across tosmorshead@swindonadvertiser.co.uk.

Get involved!

2:50pm

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2:49pm

With 10 minutes to go until kick-off, here's a quick reminder of how we're allowed to cover games on the Swindon Advertiser website.

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Updates will appear on the Adver website but will be on delay.

Stick with us after the game for all the very best reaction to the day's events.

2:48pm

YOUR SAY

2:46pm

It's still raining at Meadow Lane, where there's a bit of standing water down the touchlines. Nothing to worry about yet, though.

2:42pm

YOUR SAY

2:41pm

OPPOSITION NEWS

It’s been a strange 48 hours at Meadow Lane, with a bizarre saga involving suspended striker Lee Hughes stealing the headlines.

Hughes, who is serving a retrospective three-match ban for an elbow on Scunthorpe’s Tom Newey, told the Nottingham Post that he had to leave Notts County as he has not been playing as much as he would have liked.

"I've loved it at Notts, but I wasn't playing enough games," said Hughes.

Swindon Advertiser: CHARGED: Lee Hughes

READ LEE HUGHES' INTERVIEW WITH THE NOTTINGHAM POST HERE

"The team has been doing well and at my age I want to be playing and enjoying my football.

"I feel like I have given it long enough, but it has reached the point where I have to make the decision to go and get some games somewhere else.

"It is me. I am not getting the opportunities I want and being on the subs' bench is getting me down.

"I was training during the week and just playing 20 minutes here and there most of the time and it has been hard.

"I started at Scunthorpe last Saturday and scored twice, but was on the bench again at Preston."

A loan move to Port Vale had been lined up but was not completed before the loan deadline passed on Thursday.

Notts County issued a statement on their website yesterday which stressed that Hughes was still part of their plans.

The whole matter is irrelevant for Swindon, who would not have had to face the striker anyway, but will the issue have destabilised the Magpies in their build-up to the game.

2:39pm

YOUR SAY

2:38pm

Paolo Di Canio’s impromptu analysis of Swindon Town’s current League One position compared to previous seasons continues with how he feels all associated with the club should react to various levels of achievement come the end of the campaign.

“For the future we will see but at the end of the season, if we finish 14th or 16th, and we save the season comfortably everybody has to stand up and clap their hands because they will have done a great job,” he said.

Swindon Advertiser: ANIMATED  Swindon boss Paolo Di Canio

PAOLO DI CANIO

“If we get something more they have to put a statue out of the players. If we do something like a miracle, the County Ground has to be called the Paolo Di Canio-and-Ritchie-Alan-McCormack Stadium because it’s a miracle if we do this.

“We have a very good team, very good lads who have achieved a very good level already and we live game by game hoping we can give the best to give adrenaline to us and to the fans to come to a match thinking something can happen.

“I always believe something can happen but we can’t lose sense of reality. We can stay top six, top eight, top 10 but if it doesn’t happen it’s not the end of the world. It should be normal for the new team that gets promoted.”

What did you think of the manager’s views? Let us know by commenting below or using the hashtag #stfcadver on Twitter.

2:34pm

FUN FACTS

  • Notts County are currently celebrating their 150th anniversary as a professional club, having been established in 1862. The Magpies were founder members of the Football League.
  • Cray Wanderers of Bromley were founded in 1860 and currently play in the Isthmian League Premier Division. If by some stroke of luck they ever find themselves zapping through the pyramid and into League Two they will take County’s record off them.
  • Former Magpies defender Andy Legg once held the world record for the longest throw-in with an effort measuring 44.6m (164 feet in old money). Rory Delap who?

2:32pm

YOUR SAY

2:31pm Sat 24 Nov 12

mallorca says

Pdc and his team will WIN today,just hope they can at CG as I'm Over in December would love to se a victory,if not I know they will try

2:31pm

MEET THE GAFFER

A profile of the man in charge of Notts County, Keith Curle.

Born in Bristol in November 1963, Curle enjoyed a prolific playing career in the top leagues of English football.

He began his career with hometown club Bristol Rovers, scoring on his debut and going on to make 32 appearances before moving to Torquay United.

After a season at Plainmoor he moved to Bristol City where he topped a century of games and enjoyed a promotion before making a £150,000 switch to Reading.

Swindon Advertiser: TOP TARGET: Victor Moses, pictured being hugged by Palace coach Keith Curle on the bench at St James’ Park on Wednesday, is still wanted by Chris Hughton

Despite being part of a Royals team relegated to the Third Division, Curle’s value increased and he was sold to Wimbledon for £500,000 in 1988.

Three years with the Crazy Gang followed, during which Curle managed three goals from 93 appearances, before Manchester City forked out £2.5million to lure him to Maine Road.

Curle was called up by Graham Taylor for England duty and represented his country at Euro 92 but the defeat to Denmark was his last national appearance.

Wolves paid £650,000 for his services in 1996 and he racked up 150 appearances for the Molineux side before seeing out his career at Sheffield United, Barnsley and Mansfield – where he became player-manager.

Before being appointed County boss, Curle had previously held the top job at Chester and Torquay.

2:28pm

Home and away form – the conundrum every Town fan has been puzzling over in recent weeks.

Town have only won once at home in the league in nine weeks but have emerged victorious from five of their past six outings on the road.

Raffa De Vita, like the rest of us, is baffled.

“We’re a bit inconsistent to be honest,” he said. “The fans and everyone are not used to it because last year we were so consistent, especially at home.

Swindon Advertiser: GROWING UP: Raffa De Vita

RAFFA DE VITA

“It’s a bit of a surprise for everyone that we’ve not been so good at home and naturally we’re finding it easier to play away when maybe we’ve got a bit less to lose and we just relax a bit more and play our football.

“We’ve had our ups and downs; we had very good games like Saturday and then we haven’t been able to back them up, like on Tuesday, and that’s very frustrating. “

2:24pm

More now from Paolo Di Canio on what Swindon fans should be realistically expecting this season…

“To see this team middle or 14th should be normal, for many reasons – the worst injury crisis for 40 days of any league in this country. It’s not an excuse. It is normal,” he said.

“Otherwise you have to say to Nigel Adkins: ‘Why are you losing many games at home this year, you are at the bottom?’ To Reading: ‘Why are you at the bottom?’ Only one team is close there – West Ham.

“Where are Charlton who won with 103 points? Not top. Huddersfield started boom, boom, boom, boom, boom but now where do they stay?

“We are a new team in League One. We are proud, we are happy.

“It’s not a criticism to let the people realise what happened and the way we reached this level. When this team went from League Two to League One they built a team straight away.

Swindon Advertiser: Paolo Di Canio

PAOLO DI CANIO

“We came from 16 months where we rebuilt everything.

“We wanted in December, we are at the end of November, to stay five or six points from the play-off. In two or three games we won’t go far, maybe seven points off or maybe, why not in the same position. Everything can happen in the next four games.

“In this moment not only should we receive clapping of the hands and standing up, but they have to say we are proud of the players and the way they play. Even when they lose it is not because they don’t give their pride, they don’t treat the shirt badly. They always treat the shirt with respect.

“Sometimes they are lazy or at the limit, it’s obvious, but not because they don’t give their best.”

2:23pm

YOUR SAY

2:14pm Sat 24 Nov 12

London Red says

With Roberts not performing to the level he has in the last this is probably our best XI
.
Hopefully we will see Yeovil performance as this is pretty much that team

2:22pm

YOUR SAY

2:15pm Sat 24 Nov 12

We are PANTS says

Very strong team out there today!! Lets hope they put a good performance in!

COYR'sssssssssssssss
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2:22pm

ON THIS DAY

Wednesday, November 24, 1965

Don Rogers makes his England Under 23 debut in a 2-1 win against Yugoslavia.
Rogers played alongside his former Swindon teammate, Ernie Hunt, who by that time had moved on to play for Wolves.

Saturday, November 24, 1973

Swindon Town have only beaten Aston Villa once at the County Ground, and that was on this date.

Dave Moss got the only goal of the game in a 1-0 victory in the two sides’ Division Two clash.

Wednesday, November 24, 1993

After a long wait, the Robins finally enjoyed their first Premier League win at the 16th time of asking.

Luc Nijholt was sent off inside 20 minutes but Town dug deep against QPR to secure a 1-0 victory courtesy of Keith Scott’s goal at the County Ground.

2:19pm

The next instalment of Paolo Di Canio’s pre-match rant about Town’s historic League One performances next.

The Swindon boss gets on to talking about what he perceives as the reality of the Robins’ current position.

“My players have done a fantastic job. I have to be realistic and this is why I have enthusiasm. After the game I go angry but I have to be realistic. In this game we lost (against Brentford) there was one chance,” he said.

“In a crappy way we had five clear chances, this is the reality.

Swindon Advertiser: Paolo Di Canio celebrates Town's win

ANALYIST: PAOLO DI CANIO

“That statistic, in the way it came with the players I’ve got, is fantastic. Obviously the players I sign will give me a chance to have a comfortable season but for many reasons they couldn’t play together right away.

“What we have done today, the job until today, is amazing. Sometimes some bad feelings, there is a bad taste in the nose when people say ‘why are we losing points at home’. We have won five in six away, so there is a mixture.

“Why have Notts County already lost four games at home? Because it’s a really difficult league. League One is a different level.

“Of the four teams who went up, who is top of the four? Swindon Town Football Club. Not near the bottom but sixth in the table. For this reason I have to be realistic, I am very happy.

“If we lose at Notts County it will drive me crazy, if we perform badly. If we perform well I will be angry but not crazy because the performance for me is crucial.”

2:17pm

A FOOT IN BOTH CAMPS

A handful of Swindon Town favourites have also represented Notts County down the years.

COLIN CALDERWOOD

The centre-back, a mainstay in the Robins side the year they were promoted to the Premier League, played five games for the Magpies in the twilight days of his career.

Calderwood made the loan move to Meadow Lane in 2001 while at Nottingham Forest.

Previously, the former Town skipper had featured more than 400 times for Swindon, scoring 21 goals.

PAUL RIDEOUT

One of the best-ever products of Swindon’s youth system played 11 times for Notts County in 1991 after leaving Southampton.

Rideout netted three times for the Magpies in that period before going on to play for Rangers and Everton.

During his spell at the County Ground, Rideout scored 42 times in 114 appearances for the Robins.

ROSS MACLAREN

MacLaren spent six years with Swindon, making in excess of 200 appearances before moving to Aston Villa’s scouting network.

He enjoyed/endured 12 months as assistant manager at Meadow Lane in 2005/06.

Other players to have had associations with both clubs include: Paul Ince, Brian Kilcline, Steve Mildenhall and Phil King.

2:15pm

YOUR SAY

2:10pm Sat 24 Nov 12

stigger says

glad ferry and bostock back in middle of park, wasn't expecting Williams to be back in so soon but pleased he's fit again, and not surprised that RDV in ahead of Roberts. Nathan a bit unlucky to lose out but Macca is quality as well. COYR!

2:14pm

Matt Ritchie returns to the club where he spent four months on loan in 2009 today.

The winger scored three goals in 19 appearances for the Magpies at a time when there was plenty of instability at the club following the arrival of Sven Goran Eriksson.

Here are his memories of his time there…

“It wasn’t too long. At the time there were things going on behind the scenes with managers and who owned the club and things like that. It was a little bit mixed and we didn’t really know what was going on and it was a bit unstable,” he said.

Swindon Advertiser: Matt Ritchie

COUNTY OLD BOY: MATT RITCHIE

“I enjoyed my time there, the lads were good and there are still a couple of them left there now so it will be nice to see some faces and hopefully we can get three points and win the game.

“He (Eriksson) was there at the time. He wasn’t the manager at the time but he was on the scene, part of the recruitment and he had a big part to play.

“There was a change of manager when I was there, that wasn’t down to results because we were doing well, I think it was more to do with personalities. It was a good club and it will be a tough game.

“(Paolo Di Canio and Eriksson) are very different. To be honest, Sven wasn’t involved in training. I didn’t really know him that well and he’s obviously a different personality - that’s what you get in football.”

2:11pm

YOUR SAY

2:09pm

More now from Paolo Di Canio’s impromptu analysis of Town’s various performances in League One down the years, and why his Robins team are doing better than all before them.

“Previously when a team were praised for a good reason, for finishing in a final against Millwall and for an accident didn’t get promoted, they were fifth in this moment with one point less,” he said.

“There was Austin with 19 goals and the other guy (Billy Paynter) with 26 goals. I am not against my strikers but they were already players with pedigree.
“In that team there was maybe one player who didn’t play in League One yet before that season – Simon Ferry.  He was young.

Swindon Advertiser: You can be heroes - Di Canio

PAOLO DI CANIO

“At the moment I am playing with Wes, Nathan Thompson, Joe Devera, Flint, James Collins and Raffaele De Vita – not one has real, regular football in League One. They play regular football under me.

“Three – Simon Ferry, Ritchie and Macca – were all relegated from League One. Eight of 11 are regular footballers under me. This is not a criticism. It is fantastic.

“What they have achieved makes me proud because obviously I believe I have my part but they have done a fantastic job.”

2:06pm

BREAKING TEAM NEWS

SWINDON TOWN v Notts County: Foderingham; McCormack, Ward, Devera, McEveley; Ritchie, Bostock, Ferry, De Vita; Collins, Williams

2:02pm

BREAKING TEAM NEWS

NOTTS COUNTY v Swindon Town: Bialkowski, Kelly, Sheehan, Leacock, Liddle, J Hughes, Boucaud, Bishop, Zoko, Iwelumo, Judge

Substitutes: Mitchell, Mahon, Regan, Bencherif, Showunmi, Arquin, Labadie

2:01pm

The rain has been falling fairly heavily at Meadow Lane for a while. Pitch is likely to cut up later on.

2:01pm

YOUR SAY

1:42pm Sat 24 Nov 12

the wizard says

Two weeks off coming up, so lets have three very valuable points today but above all a solid performance with the ball on the ground.
While you are on your two weeks off chaps perhaps you could practice on how to win at home, that would be very nice.

2:01pm

Former Swindon defender Alan Sheehan, who was part of the Town side that reached the League One play-off final in 2010, will face his old club today.

Sheehan is remembered in contrasting ways by Robins fans, as he was also part of the squad that was relegated to League Two less than 12 months after the famous Wembley outing.

Here’s his take on his time at the County Ground:

“When you play against your old teams you always want to do well,” he said.

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“It was crazy. I went on loan there and we got to the play-off final and unexpectedly as well. It was a brilliant time. There was a massive buzz around the place and everyone was loving it, but it was very different the next season.

“I had a few injuries, didn’t play a whole lot, and we sold a lot of important players and ended up getting relegated.

“They went down to League Two and the way they look at it is that I jumped ship to stay in League One, but that’s the way it is.”

1:58pm

HISTORY BOOKS

The last time Town made the trip to Notts County was a day shy of two years ago.

On that occasion, a cold Tuesday evening, Lee Hughes’ 88th-minute winner broke Robins hearts and sent the Magpies delirious.

Swindon Advertiser:

LATE WINNER: LEE HUGHES CELEBRATES AFTER NETTING AGAINST TOWN TWO YEARS AGO

You can read my report of that match, if you really want to put yourself through the torture of it all once again, right here.

1:52pm

Here’s the next instalment of Paolo Di Canio’s unprompted analysis of Town’s League One efforts over the course of the past eight years:

He said: “Why did I go back to 2004? The adult people can go back to eight years ago, the youngest can go back. If I went back 30 years ago then maybe the youngest cannot remember, they can have only numbers.

“Since that day the name is League One and eight years is a medium time to read what has happened.

Swindon Advertiser: Di Canio handed two-match ban

LOOKING BACK: PAOLO DI CANIO

“Seven times this club has been in League One. In this moment of the season, after 19 games, do you know which team is the best team? Paolo Di Canio’s team.

“Do you know which is the best defensive record? Do you know which is the best attacking record in goal difference? It’s not an accident.

“This is not a confrontation with the past but I think we can do a much better job. I also put a list together of how we did that.”

More to follow later.

1:50pm

Andy Williams is amongst the players in tracksuits taking a look at the Meadow Lane surface. Could the striker be fit to play a part today?

Swindon Advertiser:

ANDY WILLIAMS, LEFT, ON THE MEADOW LANE PITCH

1:47pm

The Swindon players have arrived at the ground and are currently taking a look at the Meadow Lane surface.

1:46pm

NOTTS COUNTY v SWINDON TOWN: A potted history

Meadow Lane is not a happy hunting ground for Swindon Town.

Since their first trip to the home of the world’s first professional football club in January 1931, the Robins have won just six times.

In 28 games at Notts County, Town have lost on 16 occasions, with six draws. Considering four victories and four draws have come in Swindon’s last 12 visits to Meadow Lane, it is evident that the Wiltshire side struggled big time in Nottingham up until the 1980s.

Swindon Advertiser: Yeovil Town first meet Swindon Town on Saturday, September 12, at Huish Park

Town didn’t win at County until their ninth attempt, in September 1948, when goals from Morris Jones and John Baynham secured a 2-1 victory.

Just one more successful trip followed before 1987 - Ernie Hunt settling the contest in Swindon’s favour with the only goal of the game in April 1962 - and any travelling fans were hardly rewarded with their persistence in following the team to Meadow Lane.

In fact, in 16 games between 1931 and 1987, the Robins only scored seven goals but managed to concede 29 in the process.

The poor run of form changed in April 1987, however, sparked by a late Bryan Wade winner for Town in the 84th minute of a 3-2 victory. Ian McParland, who would later become assistant manager of the Robins, scored for the Magpies.
Swindon went on to win three of the next five clashes between the teams in Nottingham, remaining unbeaten during that period.

Swindon Advertiser: Football Team Logo for Notts County

Jan Aage Fjortoft scored the only goal of the game in September 1994, while Shaun Taylor netted two headers in a 3-1 win in October 1995.

Town haven’t won at Meadow Lane in three attempts since Tommy Mooney and Brian Howard struck to hand the Robins a 2-1 success in January 2004.

The last time Swindon picked up a point at County was in September 2006, when Fola Onibuje scored his first (of two) goal for the club in a 1-1 draw.

1:43pm

On Thursday, Paolo Di Canio pulled out a sheet of statistics midway through his pre-match press conference as he tried to emphasise how well he feels his Swindon team is doing in League One this season.

In an effort to give a fair representation of what he said, we’ll be running all of his spiel over the course of the afternoon.

Here’s part one…

“I have a very high enthusiasm. After the game I always go angry, even if we lost against Barcelona, and I tell you why,” he said.

“But as a responsible man of this club and the fans, and just because I care about the cause for the next two years daily and weekly, I have to know exactly what was this football club’s history.

Swindon Advertiser: Paolo Di Canio celebrating another Town win on Tuesday night

HISTORY SCHOLAR: PAOLO DI CANIO

“Obviously I can’t go back 100 years ago for statistics but I was curious to go back to the day this league was called League One in 2004.

“This proves how I care about Swindon. I always discuss things with myself because I care and feel part of the cause. Even if we are at the top with 150 points we search for a way to be the best and to give our best.

“Since that day I was curious to put together a list of how many times this club was in League One.”

1:39pm

OPPOSITION NEWS

News from the Notts County camp now, and the Mapies added to their strikeforce on deadline day with the capture of Chris Iwelumo from Watford.

The striker is available to play a part for the Magpies today.

Swindon Advertiser: Chris Iwelumo

NEW MAN: CHRIS IWELUMO

Jamal Campbell-Ryce will not feature, however, as be begins a three-match ban while Damion Stewart is a doubt with a knee injury and Manny Smith is out with a similar problem.

1:36pm

YOUR SAY

1:35pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Robinonfire says

Hopefully Martin will hit the net today.

Come on you REDS

1:36pm

1:35pm

TEAM NEWS

We’re not expecting anything official until around 2pm, but here’s a rundown of Swindon manager Paolo Di Canio’s options this afternoon.

Andy Williams is likely to miss out as he continues his recovery from a knee injury, while Alan Navarro is in a similar situation.

Aden Flint is available after a four-match ban but is unlikely to force his way past Joe Devera and Darren Ward back into the starting line-up. Alan McCormack could feature at right-back in place of Nathan Thompson.

Swindon Advertiser: Raffa De Vita celebrates his goal last night

BACK IN?: RAFFA DE VITA

Raffa De Vita is expected to come into the side on the left, with Gary Roberts dropping out, but Federico Bessone and Tommy Miller are still sidelined through injury.

John Bostock could get a recall in the middle of midfield, partnering Danny Hollands.

1:32pm

YOUR SAY

Remember, ‘Matchday Live’ is not just about us spouting nonsense for five hours at a time. It’s a forum for Swindon Town fans’ views on everything going on at SN1 at present.

Whether it’s Paolo Di Canio’s team selection or lukewarm coffee in the Don Rogers, we want to hear from you.

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1:30pm

Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the home of the oldest professional club in the world, Meadow Lane, for this afternoon’s League One clash between Notts County and Swindon Town.

After the 1-0 home defeat to Brentford on Tuesday night, the Robins will be hoping to get back to winning ways today but it will be a tough test against a County team who themselves are pushing for a play-off place.

If away form is anything to go by, Swindon have a great chance of picking up points in Nottingham this afternoon. Town have won five of their last six games on the road, while the Magpies have already lost four times at home in the league this term.

Stick with us throughout the afternoon for all the best build-up to the game, followed by match updates and reaction.

Enjoy!

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1:35pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Robinonfire says...

Hopefully Martin will hit the net today.

Come on you REDS
Hopefully Martin will hit the net today. Come on you REDS Robinonfire

1:39pm Sat 24 Nov 12

RobinsTalk says...

With Paolo unable to bring a new face in this week I wonder if Roberts will keep his place on the left, will RDV replace him or will we see a big change with Ritchie back on the left and RDV or even someone else on the right.
Look forward to seeing the line up.
With Paolo unable to bring a new face in this week I wonder if Roberts will keep his place on the left, will RDV replace him or will we see a big change with Ritchie back on the left and RDV or even someone else on the right. Look forward to seeing the line up. RobinsTalk

1:42pm Sat 24 Nov 12

the wizard says...

Two weeks off coming up, so lets have three very valuable points today but above all a solid performance with the ball on the ground.
While you are on your two weeks off chaps perhaps you could practice on how to win at home, that would be very nice.
Two weeks off coming up, so lets have three very valuable points today but above all a solid performance with the ball on the ground. While you are on your two weeks off chaps perhaps you could practice on how to win at home, that would be very nice. the wizard

1:59pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Anoldgreymoonraker says...

I agree with what Wizard says we need
the points
I agree with what Wizard says we need the points Anoldgreymoonraker

2:02pm Sat 24 Nov 12

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

RobinsTalk wrote:
With Paolo unable to bring a new face in this week I wonder if Roberts will keep his place on the left, will RDV replace him or will we see a big change with Ritchie back on the left and RDV or even someone else on the right. Look forward to seeing the line up.
Im glad pdc never bought in any more new player...
Everytime he brings in the new players we lose...and this is another reason why the team are not playing the same game after game
Still cant understand why Bostock was dropped last week and by the look of it Ferry will be benched 2day...
Ferry and Bostock were looking very good with alot more room and space for the rest of the team..
Then what do we do SORRY what does pdc do !!!!
[quote][p][bold]RobinsTalk[/bold] wrote: With Paolo unable to bring a new face in this week I wonder if Roberts will keep his place on the left, will RDV replace him or will we see a big change with Ritchie back on the left and RDV or even someone else on the right. Look forward to seeing the line up.[/p][/quote]Im glad pdc never bought in any more new player... Everytime he brings in the new players we lose...and this is another reason why the team are not playing the same game after game Still cant understand why Bostock was dropped last week and by the look of it Ferry will be benched 2day... Ferry and Bostock were looking very good with alot more room and space for the rest of the team.. Then what do we do SORRY what does pdc do !!!! DarrenSTFCRomain

2:10pm Sat 24 Nov 12

stigger says...

glad ferry and bostock back in middle of park, wasn't expecting Williams to be back in so soon but pleased he's fit again, and not surprised that RDV in ahead of Roberts. Nathan a bit unlucky to lose out but Macca is quality as well. COYR!
glad ferry and bostock back in middle of park, wasn't expecting Williams to be back in so soon but pleased he's fit again, and not surprised that RDV in ahead of Roberts. Nathan a bit unlucky to lose out but Macca is quality as well. COYR! stigger

2:11pm Sat 24 Nov 12

smirg kcab says...

Nice to see paolos love children are both playing, lets hope their goals start flooding in.
Where's sue onwards and upwards
Nice to see paolos love children are both playing, lets hope their goals start flooding in. Where's sue onwards and upwards smirg kcab

2:14pm Sat 24 Nov 12

London Red says...

With Roberts not performing to the level he has in the last this is probably our best XI
.
Hopefully we will see Yeovil performance as this is pretty much that team
With Roberts not performing to the level he has in the last this is probably our best XI . Hopefully we will see Yeovil performance as this is pretty much that team London Red

2:15pm Sat 24 Nov 12

We are PANTS says...

Very strong team out there today!! Lets hope they put a good performance in!

COYR'sssssssssssssss
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Very strong team out there today!! Lets hope they put a good performance in! COYR'sssssssssssssss s We are PANTS

2:31pm Sat 24 Nov 12

mallorca says...

Pdc and his team will WIN today,just hope they can at CG as I'm Over in December would love to se a victory,if not I know they will try
Pdc and his team will WIN today,just hope they can at CG as I'm Over in December would love to se a victory,if not I know they will try mallorca

2:44pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Psychedelic Syd says...

Team selection today looks good, pleased to see Ferry, Bostock, Ritchie and Raffa starting together. Hope Williams has fully recovered. It is going to be tough to play football though with the weather conditions. Hope Notts don't have a fast left winger because good as Macca is in the middle at mopping up/reading the game and covering, he will be skinned if they have. I'm glad we didn't sign anyone else, we've still got some very good players on the bench - both Thompson's for instance and Flint. Maybe we will see a bit less tinkering and a more settled side emerging now. Even when Miller and Navarro are fit, they should only be on the bench when we have Bostock and Ferry available. Not surprised Roberts is out, that has been a long time coming with what he has shown us so far, a few good games and a lot of rubbish ones. Definitely need a result today to stay in contention. COYMR
Team selection today looks good, pleased to see Ferry, Bostock, Ritchie and Raffa starting together. Hope Williams has fully recovered. It is going to be tough to play football though with the weather conditions. Hope Notts don't have a fast left winger because good as Macca is in the middle at mopping up/reading the game and covering, he will be skinned if they have. I'm glad we didn't sign anyone else, we've still got some very good players on the bench - both Thompson's for instance and Flint. Maybe we will see a bit less tinkering and a more settled side emerging now. Even when Miller and Navarro are fit, they should only be on the bench when we have Bostock and Ferry available. Not surprised Roberts is out, that has been a long time coming with what he has shown us so far, a few good games and a lot of rubbish ones. Definitely need a result today to stay in contention. COYMR Psychedelic Syd

3:51pm Sat 24 Nov 12

the wizard says...

For once I think the starting line up is totally spot on.Not there so cannot give a completely accurate comment, but looking on here and at the BBC site where the stats are interesting, it seems we are totally committed.
Not surprised by Judge who has always been a sound player, I think we have worked hard enough to be at least level.
Come on Town, we can still win this game.
For once I think the starting line up is totally spot on.Not there so cannot give a completely accurate comment, but looking on here and at the BBC site where the stats are interesting, it seems we are totally committed. Not surprised by Judge who has always been a sound player, I think we have worked hard enough to be at least level. Come on Town, we can still win this game. the wizard

3:54pm Sat 24 Nov 12

the wizard says...

I also see that Brentford have the measure of Wilson's Sheff. Utd this afternoon, they have become ones to watch on the progress scene this season.
I also see that Brentford have the measure of Wilson's Sheff. Utd this afternoon, they have become ones to watch on the progress scene this season. the wizard

4:04pm Sat 24 Nov 12

smirg kcab says...

the wizard wrote:
I also see that Brentford have the measure of Wilson's Sheff. Utd this afternoon, they have become ones to watch on the progress scene this season.
i also see donaldson found the net again?
paolos love children havnt
wheres sue?
onwards and upwards
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: I also see that Brentford have the measure of Wilson's Sheff. Utd this afternoon, they have become ones to watch on the progress scene this season.[/p][/quote]i also see donaldson found the net again? paolos love children havnt wheres sue? onwards and upwards smirg kcab

4:27pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Malkym says...

Sounds like they've got Jan Tomaszewski in goal! Lady Luck appears to be against us at the moment - lets hope it changes before the game ends.
Sounds like they've got Jan Tomaszewski in goal! Lady Luck appears to be against us at the moment - lets hope it changes before the game ends. Malkym

4:28pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Since 1950 says...

In New York shopping. Nightmare!
Thank goodness for the coffee shop with free wifi. Just got logged in on my iPhone. Shame about the score at the moment.
COYR!
In New York shopping. Nightmare! Thank goodness for the coffee shop with free wifi. Just got logged in on my iPhone. Shame about the score at the moment. COYR! Since 1950

4:48pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Malkym says...

Grim -enlighten me -whats this Sue thing lol! see our potent strike force are firing on nil cylinders.
Grim -enlighten me -whats this Sue thing lol! see our potent strike force are firing on nil cylinders. Malkym

4:50pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Malkym says...

Grim -enlighten me -whats this Sue thing lol! see our potent strike force are firing on nil cylinders.
Grim -enlighten me -whats this Sue thing lol! see our potent strike force are firing on nil cylinders. Malkym

4:52pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Malkym says...

Since 1950 wrote:
In New York shopping. Nightmare! Thank goodness for the coffee shop with free wifi. Just got logged in on my iPhone. Shame about the score at the moment. COYR!
Obviously under she who must be obeyeds orders lol! :)
[quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: In New York shopping. Nightmare! Thank goodness for the coffee shop with free wifi. Just got logged in on my iPhone. Shame about the score at the moment. COYR![/p][/quote]Obviously under she who must be obeyeds orders lol! :) Malkym

4:53pm Sat 24 Nov 12

smirg kcab says...

Malkym wrote:
Grim -enlighten me -whats this Sue thing lol! see our potent strike force are firing on nil cylinders.
watch the adverts on telly.
wheres sue
onwards and upwards
[quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: Grim -enlighten me -whats this Sue thing lol! see our potent strike force are firing on nil cylinders.[/p][/quote]watch the adverts on telly. wheres sue onwards and upwards smirg kcab

4:59pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Div Four Champs 85/86 says...

What excuses will we hear in the next half hour, I suspect it won't be his (PDC) fault as usual
What excuses will we hear in the next half hour, I suspect it won't be his (PDC) fault as usual Div Four Champs 85/86

5:01pm Sat 24 Nov 12

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

We were very very unlucky 2day..
Plenty of chances but we come up against a goal keeper that was haveing the game of his life..
We were very very unlucky 2day.. Plenty of chances but we come up against a goal keeper that was haveing the game of his life.. DarrenSTFCRomain

5:06pm Sat 24 Nov 12

smirg kcab says...

its not all doom and gloom as london red tells me we have two forwards who will score 20+ each
wheres sue
onwards and upwards
its not all doom and gloom as london red tells me we have two forwards who will score 20+ each wheres sue onwards and upwards smirg kcab

5:07pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Steve. Brentford says...

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
We were very very unlucky 2day..
Plenty of chances but we come up against a goal keeper that was haveing the game of his life..
When i see you had predicted us to win today i just knew it wasn't going to be our day,not suggesting your jinx or anything...
[quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: We were very very unlucky 2day.. Plenty of chances but we come up against a goal keeper that was haveing the game of his life..[/p][/quote]When i see you had predicted us to win today i just knew it wasn't going to be our day,not suggesting your jinx or anything... Steve. Brentford

5:08pm Sat 24 Nov 12

wurzelday says...

Lets just hear what pdc has to say first before slating him. He will be angry because he wants us to do well. We played well today. Notts county are a good side.
Lets just hear what pdc has to say first before slating him. He will be angry because he wants us to do well. We played well today. Notts county are a good side. wurzelday

5:09pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Hampshire_ReD says...

This was always going to be a tough game, and after the dreadful performance against Brentford...it's not exactly a surprise.

Wasn't at the game, but feel we are lacking goals from the strikers. To be able to keep up with the other play-off teams, Paolo needs to find a way of getting results against physical teams - clearly our team of midgets are simply no good in the air.
This was always going to be a tough game, and after the dreadful performance against Brentford...it's not exactly a surprise. Wasn't at the game, but feel we are lacking goals from the strikers. To be able to keep up with the other play-off teams, Paolo needs to find a way of getting results against physical teams - clearly our team of midgets are simply no good in the air. Hampshire_ReD

5:11pm Sat 24 Nov 12

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
DarrenSTFCRomain wrote: We were very very unlucky 2day.. Plenty of chances but we come up against a goal keeper that was haveing the game of his life..
When i see you had predicted us to win today i just knew it wasn't going to be our day,not suggesting your jinx or anything...
Hello mate..The mad thing is,that i have predicted we win the last 2 games...
SO YES IT WAS MY FAULT...Happy now
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: We were very very unlucky 2day.. Plenty of chances but we come up against a goal keeper that was haveing the game of his life..[/p][/quote]When i see you had predicted us to win today i just knew it wasn't going to be our day,not suggesting your jinx or anything...[/p][/quote]Hello mate..The mad thing is,that i have predicted we win the last 2 games... SO YES IT WAS MY FAULT...Happy now DarrenSTFCRomain

5:14pm Sat 24 Nov 12

the wizard says...

Only from what I have seen here and on the BBC Sport web site I'll be happy to say from what I've read we tried hard, played some decent stuff and perhaps unlucky not to get one point at least. It seems as others have said, their goalie had a blinder to day. On the positive side we made him work hard and there seemed to be lots of options and different players all becoming involved, so although we lost the overall performance was good, and I'm happier with that. Glad to see Williams back in the mix and glad his knee is ok.
Only from what I have seen here and on the BBC Sport web site I'll be happy to say from what I've read we tried hard, played some decent stuff and perhaps unlucky not to get one point at least. It seems as others have said, their goalie had a blinder to day. On the positive side we made him work hard and there seemed to be lots of options and different players all becoming involved, so although we lost the overall performance was good, and I'm happier with that. Glad to see Williams back in the mix and glad his knee is ok. the wizard

5:14pm Sat 24 Nov 12

mikek says...

Have not deserved to lose last two games and another inspired goalkeeper display shuts us out again. Ahh well its not nice to lose but at least the boys can have a break and hopefully recharge those batteries and come back for another slog at getting us up that league. Fact of football is we have to take defeats as part of the game but deserved more from todays game by the sound of things so luck is out at present. Next game is a hard one Doncaster at home in two weeks time. Still in the mix and a long way to go yet so not all bad.
Have not deserved to lose last two games and another inspired goalkeeper display shuts us out again. Ahh well its not nice to lose but at least the boys can have a break and hopefully recharge those batteries and come back for another slog at getting us up that league. Fact of football is we have to take defeats as part of the game but deserved more from todays game by the sound of things so luck is out at present. Next game is a hard one Doncaster at home in two weeks time. Still in the mix and a long way to go yet so not all bad. mikek

5:18pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Psychedelic Syd says...

Bad result that we can ill afford. Team selected was one of the best available, couldn't get to match but it sounds like they were a bit unlucky. Hope the break in matches gives team time to get back on track. Very disappointed but that's football and I seem to remember more disappointments than euphoria over the many years I've watched Town. Mind you the good times like '69 and promotions, occasional giant killings etc are made all the better by the barren times in between! Who would want to support a club like Man Utd etc and get deadened by constant success and hype? Mind you, I'd like a bit of constant success here .... Need a beer or two or three. Depressing Saturday night but there will be better days, hopefully this season.
Bad result that we can ill afford. Team selected was one of the best available, couldn't get to match but it sounds like they were a bit unlucky. Hope the break in matches gives team time to get back on track. Very disappointed but that's football and I seem to remember more disappointments than euphoria over the many years I've watched Town. Mind you the good times like '69 and promotions, occasional giant killings etc are made all the better by the barren times in between! Who would want to support a club like Man Utd etc and get deadened by constant success and hype? Mind you, I'd like a bit of constant success here .... Need a beer or two or three. Depressing Saturday night but there will be better days, hopefully this season. Psychedelic Syd

5:25pm Sat 24 Nov 12

mikek says...

the wizard wrote:
Only from what I have seen here and on the BBC Sport web site I'll be happy to say from what I've read we tried hard, played some decent stuff and perhaps unlucky not to get one point at least. It seems as others have said, their goalie had a blinder to day. On the positive side we made him work hard and there seemed to be lots of options and different players all becoming involved, so although we lost the overall performance was good, and I'm happier with that. Glad to see Williams back in the mix and glad his knee is ok.
Hi Wiz very hard game today against a decent side and yet we have hit the post had seven outstanding saves from their keeper and we have played well so not all gloom in defeat. Rather that we've played well than not turning up. Nice break for the lads now and long way to go so have to keep the faith. May be one mistake Paolo made was taking off Collins instead of a tired Williams and Paolo is saying at present on the radio we dominated much of the game and created many chances. Not feeling that down but even though a loss hurts we have to keep the faith and just hope that the boys up front can start firing us back up this league. Have a good weekend Wiz.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Only from what I have seen here and on the BBC Sport web site I'll be happy to say from what I've read we tried hard, played some decent stuff and perhaps unlucky not to get one point at least. It seems as others have said, their goalie had a blinder to day. On the positive side we made him work hard and there seemed to be lots of options and different players all becoming involved, so although we lost the overall performance was good, and I'm happier with that. Glad to see Williams back in the mix and glad his knee is ok.[/p][/quote]Hi Wiz very hard game today against a decent side and yet we have hit the post had seven outstanding saves from their keeper and we have played well so not all gloom in defeat. Rather that we've played well than not turning up. Nice break for the lads now and long way to go so have to keep the faith. May be one mistake Paolo made was taking off Collins instead of a tired Williams and Paolo is saying at present on the radio we dominated much of the game and created many chances. Not feeling that down but even though a loss hurts we have to keep the faith and just hope that the boys up front can start firing us back up this league. Have a good weekend Wiz. mikek

5:28pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Robinonfire says...

To many changes by PDC have cost us points.

Should of started with Storey and Martin.
To many changes by PDC have cost us points. Should of started with Storey and Martin. Robinonfire

5:32pm Sat 24 Nov 12

wurzelday says...

An honest, and balanced comment from pdc. I think as fans we have to say he has been very fair in this post match analysis.
An honest, and balanced comment from pdc. I think as fans we have to say he has been very fair in this post match analysis. wurzelday

5:42pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Dover Red says...

mikek wrote:
the wizard wrote:
Only from what I have seen here and on the BBC Sport web site I'll be happy to say from what I've read we tried hard, played some decent stuff and perhaps unlucky not to get one point at least. It seems as others have said, their goalie had a blinder to day. On the positive side we made him work hard and there seemed to be lots of options and different players all becoming involved, so although we lost the overall performance was good, and I'm happier with that. Glad to see Williams back in the mix and glad his knee is ok.
Hi Wiz very hard game today against a decent side and yet we have hit the post had seven outstanding saves from their keeper and we have played well so not all gloom in defeat. Rather that we've played well than not turning up. Nice break for the lads now and long way to go so have to keep the faith. May be one mistake Paolo made was taking off Collins instead of a tired Williams and Paolo is saying at present on the radio we dominated much of the game and created many chances. Not feeling that down but even though a loss hurts we have to keep the faith and just hope that the boys up front can start firing us back up this league. Have a good weekend Wiz.
Thanks for the good balanced post, no knee jerk rubbish, sounds we did a good job which didnt come off for us. Always good to hear a first hand report,have a safe journey home mate.
[quote][p][bold]mikek[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Only from what I have seen here and on the BBC Sport web site I'll be happy to say from what I've read we tried hard, played some decent stuff and perhaps unlucky not to get one point at least. It seems as others have said, their goalie had a blinder to day. On the positive side we made him work hard and there seemed to be lots of options and different players all becoming involved, so although we lost the overall performance was good, and I'm happier with that. Glad to see Williams back in the mix and glad his knee is ok.[/p][/quote]Hi Wiz very hard game today against a decent side and yet we have hit the post had seven outstanding saves from their keeper and we have played well so not all gloom in defeat. Rather that we've played well than not turning up. Nice break for the lads now and long way to go so have to keep the faith. May be one mistake Paolo made was taking off Collins instead of a tired Williams and Paolo is saying at present on the radio we dominated much of the game and created many chances. Not feeling that down but even though a loss hurts we have to keep the faith and just hope that the boys up front can start firing us back up this league. Have a good weekend Wiz.[/p][/quote]Thanks for the good balanced post, no knee jerk rubbish, sounds we did a good job which didnt come off for us. Always good to hear a first hand report,have a safe journey home mate. Dover Red

5:45pm Sat 24 Nov 12

mikek says...

wurzelday wrote:
An honest, and balanced comment from pdc. I think as fans we have to say he has been very fair in this post match analysis.
Yes totally agree and surprised how Paolo come across and he was spot on with his assessment on the game and the team in general. Paolo made the comment that we are middle table team and he is being very realistic after coming up from League two so consolidation is obviously is in his first thoughts. As much as we would like back to back promotions we do have to be ready for the next steps and I don't believe we are ready yet.
[quote][p][bold]wurzelday[/bold] wrote: An honest, and balanced comment from pdc. I think as fans we have to say he has been very fair in this post match analysis.[/p][/quote]Yes totally agree and surprised how Paolo come across and he was spot on with his assessment on the game and the team in general. Paolo made the comment that we are middle table team and he is being very realistic after coming up from League two so consolidation is obviously is in his first thoughts. As much as we would like back to back promotions we do have to be ready for the next steps and I don't believe we are ready yet. mikek

5:47pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Malkym says...

wurzelday wrote:
An honest, and balanced comment from pdc. I think as fans we have to say he has been very fair in this post match analysis.
Agreed Wurz just listened to it.An honest observation of our current form I thought and a candid assessment of our current striking players ability. I noted there was no overt cricism of their performance other than I think PdC still thought that at least one or more of the created chances should have been converted.

Robinonfire says...
5:28pm Sat 24 Nov 12

To many changes by PDC have cost us points.

Should of started with Storey and Martin.”
To many changes by PDC have cost us points. Should of started with Storey and Martin. Robinonfire - so that combination would have guaranteed goals then would it? and more so than by starting W & C?
[quote][p][bold]wurzelday[/bold] wrote: An honest, and balanced comment from pdc. I think as fans we have to say he has been very fair in this post match analysis.[/p][/quote]Agreed Wurz just listened to it.An honest observation of our current form I thought and a candid assessment of our current striking players ability. I noted there was no overt cricism of their performance other than I think PdC still thought that at least one or more of the created chances should have been converted. Robinonfire says... 5:28pm Sat 24 Nov 12 To many changes by PDC have cost us points. Should of started with Storey and Martin.” To many changes by PDC have cost us points. Should of started with Storey and Martin. Robinonfire - so that combination would have guaranteed goals then would it? and more so than by starting W & C? Malkym

5:53pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Malkym says...

smirg kcab wrote:
its not all doom and gloom as london red tells me we have two forwards who will score 20+ each wheres sue onwards and upwards
Can't believe that Grim -even though you and me don't think they'll score 20 goals between them! :) WC henceforth known as the "bog-roll 2" lol!
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: its not all doom and gloom as london red tells me we have two forwards who will score 20+ each wheres sue onwards and upwards[/p][/quote]Can't believe that Grim -even though you and me don't think they'll score 20 goals between them! :) WC henceforth known as the "bog-roll 2" lol! Malkym

5:54pm Sat 24 Nov 12

wurzelday says...

mikek wrote:
wurzelday wrote:
An honest, and balanced comment from pdc. I think as fans we have to say he has been very fair in this post match analysis.
Yes totally agree and surprised how Paolo come across and he was spot on with his assessment on the game and the team in general. Paolo made the comment that we are middle table team and he is being very realistic after coming up from League two so consolidation is obviously is in his first thoughts. As much as we would like back to back promotions we do have to be ready for the next steps and I don't believe we are ready yet.
I also believe that what he is trying to say is that, this current crop are playing above their weight. They are quality, but dont all have the experience to make that next step. He is also right that in saying that we as fans have to be realistiic, as he also has the facts an stats to back that up. Yes promotion would be a miracle, but we are the highest placed promoted team, so we should be happy with that at the moment. Lets just get behind the players and the manager and let our manager manage
[quote][p][bold]mikek[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wurzelday[/bold] wrote: An honest, and balanced comment from pdc. I think as fans we have to say he has been very fair in this post match analysis.[/p][/quote]Yes totally agree and surprised how Paolo come across and he was spot on with his assessment on the game and the team in general. Paolo made the comment that we are middle table team and he is being very realistic after coming up from League two so consolidation is obviously is in his first thoughts. As much as we would like back to back promotions we do have to be ready for the next steps and I don't believe we are ready yet.[/p][/quote]I also believe that what he is trying to say is that, this current crop are playing above their weight. They are quality, but dont all have the experience to make that next step. He is also right that in saying that we as fans have to be realistiic, as he also has the facts an stats to back that up. Yes promotion would be a miracle, but we are the highest placed promoted team, so we should be happy with that at the moment. Lets just get behind the players and the manager and let our manager manage wurzelday

6:00pm Sat 24 Nov 12

tobruk says...

Dover Red wrote:
mikek wrote:
the wizard wrote:
Only from what I have seen here and on the BBC Sport web site I'll be happy to say from what I've read we tried hard, played some decent stuff and perhaps unlucky not to get one point at least. It seems as others have said, their goalie had a blinder to day. On the positive side we made him work hard and there seemed to be lots of options and different players all becoming involved, so although we lost the overall performance was good, and I'm happier with that. Glad to see Williams back in the mix and glad his knee is ok.
Hi Wiz very hard game today against a decent side and yet we have hit the post had seven outstanding saves from their keeper and we have played well so not all gloom in defeat. Rather that we've played well than not turning up. Nice break for the lads now and long way to go so have to keep the faith. May be one mistake Paolo made was taking off Collins instead of a tired Williams and Paolo is saying at present on the radio we dominated much of the game and created many chances. Not feeling that down but even though a loss hurts we have to keep the faith and just hope that the boys up front can start firing us back up this league. Have a good weekend Wiz.
Thanks for the good balanced post, no knee jerk rubbish, sounds we did a good job which didnt come off for us. Always good to hear a first hand report,have a safe journey home mate.
Just wondering though if Flinty might have made a difference when corners were taken. Sounds like their goalie played a blinder. Why do they always play at their best when they play against us? Great commentaries as usual from Wiltshire Sound.
[quote][p][bold]Dover Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mikek[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Only from what I have seen here and on the BBC Sport web site I'll be happy to say from what I've read we tried hard, played some decent stuff and perhaps unlucky not to get one point at least. It seems as others have said, their goalie had a blinder to day. On the positive side we made him work hard and there seemed to be lots of options and different players all becoming involved, so although we lost the overall performance was good, and I'm happier with that. Glad to see Williams back in the mix and glad his knee is ok.[/p][/quote]Hi Wiz very hard game today against a decent side and yet we have hit the post had seven outstanding saves from their keeper and we have played well so not all gloom in defeat. Rather that we've played well than not turning up. Nice break for the lads now and long way to go so have to keep the faith. May be one mistake Paolo made was taking off Collins instead of a tired Williams and Paolo is saying at present on the radio we dominated much of the game and created many chances. Not feeling that down but even though a loss hurts we have to keep the faith and just hope that the boys up front can start firing us back up this league. Have a good weekend Wiz.[/p][/quote]Thanks for the good balanced post, no knee jerk rubbish, sounds we did a good job which didnt come off for us. Always good to hear a first hand report,have a safe journey home mate.[/p][/quote]Just wondering though if Flinty might have made a difference when corners were taken. Sounds like their goalie played a blinder. Why do they always play at their best when they play against us? Great commentaries as usual from Wiltshire Sound. tobruk

6:01pm Sat 24 Nov 12

the don69 says...

Same old storey!played well,created chances,firing blanks!chaps it's time to face facts,we need a goalscorer,cause the ones we got just ain't doing the business,never mind where's Sue!where's our Blo*dy Goalscorer!!!!!!!!
Same old storey!played well,created chances,firing blanks!chaps it's time to face facts,we need a goalscorer,cause the ones we got just ain't doing the business,never mind where's Sue!where's our Blo*dy Goalscorer!!!!!!!! the don69

6:08pm Sat 24 Nov 12

the wizard says...

I also think many are over looking the fact that Notts Co, are a good outfit and started the game above us in the league and therefore indicating they are a decent side. We have to be aware that other sides are stronger and have better balanced sides than we do. Most of these sides have evolved over several seasons as opposed to ours which is still basically a new side and still in need of fettling. Given our recent run of injuries and the embargo many players are still getting used to those around them, so this next two weeks could prove to be more than useful in putting things together. We are still in early days of a 46 game season, and the January window will now be crucial to getting the balance needed and maybe the genius we need at the front. Far too early to despair and even the manager is learning to curb his thoughts in public. Indeed the future may yet be bright. We are still in there, and that is where we need to be, in there to win it.
If you really want something to worry about, ponder this, if we do go up, how many from this squad would be good enough for the CCC ? Really ?
I also think many are over looking the fact that Notts Co, are a good outfit and started the game above us in the league and therefore indicating they are a decent side. We have to be aware that other sides are stronger and have better balanced sides than we do. Most of these sides have evolved over several seasons as opposed to ours which is still basically a new side and still in need of fettling. Given our recent run of injuries and the embargo many players are still getting used to those around them, so this next two weeks could prove to be more than useful in putting things together. We are still in early days of a 46 game season, and the January window will now be crucial to getting the balance needed and maybe the genius we need at the front. Far too early to despair and even the manager is learning to curb his thoughts in public. Indeed the future may yet be bright. We are still in there, and that is where we need to be, in there to win it. If you really want something to worry about, ponder this, if we do go up, how many from this squad would be good enough for the CCC ? Really ? the wizard

6:51pm Sat 24 Nov 12

NEWBURYREDS says...

as above really, there goalie was brill I thought the game was very good in awful conditions. yes we need a real fox in the box,and ok the odd pass went astray but we'll get there! away fans weren't there normal noisy self's today. I still think top 6 is poss?
as above really, there goalie was brill I thought the game was very good in awful conditions. yes we need a real fox in the box,and ok the odd pass went astray but we'll get there! away fans weren't there normal noisy self's today. I still think top 6 is poss? NEWBURYREDS

6:54pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Oi Den! says...

Malkym wrote:
wurzelday wrote:
An honest, and balanced comment from pdc. I think as fans we have to say he has been very fair in this post match analysis.
Agreed Wurz just listened to it.An honest observation of our current form I thought and a candid assessment of our current striking players ability. I noted there was no overt cricism of their performance other than I think PdC still thought that at least one or more of the created chances should have been converted.

Robinonfire says...
5:28pm Sat 24 Nov 12

To many changes by PDC have cost us points.

Should of started with Storey and Martin.”
To many changes by PDC have cost us points. Should of started with Storey and Martin. Robinonfire - so that combination would have guaranteed goals then would it? and more so than by starting W & C?
You sure about the lack of overt criticism Malk? I thought I heard him say McCormack was a disaster.
[quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wurzelday[/bold] wrote: An honest, and balanced comment from pdc. I think as fans we have to say he has been very fair in this post match analysis.[/p][/quote]Agreed Wurz just listened to it.An honest observation of our current form I thought and a candid assessment of our current striking players ability. I noted there was no overt cricism of their performance other than I think PdC still thought that at least one or more of the created chances should have been converted. Robinonfire says... 5:28pm Sat 24 Nov 12 To many changes by PDC have cost us points. Should of started with Storey and Martin.” To many changes by PDC have cost us points. Should of started with Storey and Martin. Robinonfire - so that combination would have guaranteed goals then would it? and more so than by starting W & C?[/p][/quote]You sure about the lack of overt criticism Malk? I thought I heard him say McCormack was a disaster. Oi Den!

7:06pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Mushymushy says...

Just got back from the game and it was highly disappointing to many changes I have no confidence in pdc he made some bad choices on the back of some bad performances from Williams and he should of been the first to go these choices pdc made lost us the game.not a good day for .STFC
Just got back from the game and it was highly disappointing to many changes I have no confidence in pdc he made some bad choices on the back of some bad performances from Williams and he should of been the first to go these choices pdc made lost us the game.not a good day for .STFC Mushymushy

7:37pm Sat 24 Nov 12

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

Mushymushy wrote:
Just got back from the game and it was highly disappointing to many changes I have no confidence in pdc he made some bad choices on the back of some bad performances from Williams and he should of been the first to go these choices pdc made lost us the game.not a good day for .STFC
WHAT YOUR SAYING PDC WAS WRONG on a couple of main football things 2day...

Dont think the pdc god army will be happy with you mate...
BUT you were their so you every right to do a Roy Walker and say what you see
[quote][p][bold]Mushymushy[/bold] wrote: Just got back from the game and it was highly disappointing to many changes I have no confidence in pdc he made some bad choices on the back of some bad performances from Williams and he should of been the first to go these choices pdc made lost us the game.not a good day for .STFC[/p][/quote]WHAT YOUR SAYING PDC WAS WRONG on a couple of main football things 2day... Dont think the pdc god army will be happy with you mate... BUT you were their so you every right to do a Roy Walker and say what you see DarrenSTFCRomain

8:05pm Sat 24 Nov 12

jayden says...

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
Mushymushy wrote:
Just got back from the game and it was highly disappointing to many changes I have no confidence in pdc he made some bad choices on the back of some bad performances from Williams and he should of been the first to go these choices pdc made lost us the game.not a good day for .STFC
WHAT YOUR SAYING PDC WAS WRONG on a couple of main football things 2day...

Dont think the pdc god army will be happy with you mate...
BUT you were their so you every right to do a Roy Walker and say what you see
Nice one Darren i see pdc as Mr chips
[quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mushymushy[/bold] wrote: Just got back from the game and it was highly disappointing to many changes I have no confidence in pdc he made some bad choices on the back of some bad performances from Williams and he should of been the first to go these choices pdc made lost us the game.not a good day for .STFC[/p][/quote]WHAT YOUR SAYING PDC WAS WRONG on a couple of main football things 2day... Dont think the pdc god army will be happy with you mate... BUT you were their so you every right to do a Roy Walker and say what you see[/p][/quote]Nice one Darren i see pdc as Mr chips jayden

8:10pm Sat 24 Nov 12

forzaswindon12 says...

sounded like we were unlucky not to get at least a point and that would have kept notts behind us.
feel we've lost two crucial games in a row here allowing rival teams to get into better contention for auto than us.
at least tranmere and sheff utd slipped up. i didnt see brentford and donny being contenders for auto and theyre now right up there, see paynter is doing the business for them.

we need to go on an unbeaten run now , too many defeats and mediocre home form, and no game for 2 weeks now which is another annoyance, but still not that far off the pace so 4-6 points in the next 2 games needed before the xmas programme is upon us.

hopefully we can get madine in january
sounded like we were unlucky not to get at least a point and that would have kept notts behind us. feel we've lost two crucial games in a row here allowing rival teams to get into better contention for auto than us. at least tranmere and sheff utd slipped up. i didnt see brentford and donny being contenders for auto and theyre now right up there, see paynter is doing the business for them. we need to go on an unbeaten run now , too many defeats and mediocre home form, and no game for 2 weeks now which is another annoyance, but still not that far off the pace so 4-6 points in the next 2 games needed before the xmas programme is upon us. hopefully we can get madine in january forzaswindon12

8:11pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Malkym says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Malkym wrote:
wurzelday wrote: An honest, and balanced comment from pdc. I think as fans we have to say he has been very fair in this post match analysis.
Agreed Wurz just listened to it.An honest observation of our current form I thought and a candid assessment of our current striking players ability. I noted there was no overt cricism of their performance other than I think PdC still thought that at least one or more of the created chances should have been converted. Robinonfire says... 5:28pm Sat 24 Nov 12 To many changes by PDC have cost us points. Should of started with Storey and Martin.” To many changes by PDC have cost us points. Should of started with Storey and Martin. Robinonfire - so that combination would have guaranteed goals then would it? and more so than by starting W & C?
You sure about the lack of overt criticism Malk? I thought I heard him say McCormack was a disaster.
Den - can't say I did hear that but like others felt that it was a very fair and measured response -he is right we are no more than average and anybody that thinks otherwise is surely deluding themselves -sure we had no luck today it seems but it doesn't paper over the glaring cracks of a woeful lack of striking prowess.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wurzelday[/bold] wrote: An honest, and balanced comment from pdc. I think as fans we have to say he has been very fair in this post match analysis.[/p][/quote]Agreed Wurz just listened to it.An honest observation of our current form I thought and a candid assessment of our current striking players ability. I noted there was no overt cricism of their performance other than I think PdC still thought that at least one or more of the created chances should have been converted. Robinonfire says... 5:28pm Sat 24 Nov 12 To many changes by PDC have cost us points. Should of started with Storey and Martin.” To many changes by PDC have cost us points. Should of started with Storey and Martin. Robinonfire - so that combination would have guaranteed goals then would it? and more so than by starting W & C?[/p][/quote]You sure about the lack of overt criticism Malk? I thought I heard him say McCormack was a disaster.[/p][/quote]Den - can't say I did hear that but like others felt that it was a very fair and measured response -he is right we are no more than average and anybody that thinks otherwise is surely deluding themselves -sure we had no luck today it seems but it doesn't paper over the glaring cracks of a woeful lack of striking prowess. Malkym

8:24pm Sat 24 Nov 12

abbotboy says...

lack of striking power, ... get a loan player in then eh.........
lack of striking power, ... get a loan player in then eh......... abbotboy

8:35pm Sat 24 Nov 12

bongiaz says...

the wizard wrote:
I also think many are over looking the fact that Notts Co, are a good outfit and started the game above us in the league and therefore indicating they are a decent side. We have to be aware that other sides are stronger and have better balanced sides than we do. Most of these sides have evolved over several seasons as opposed to ours which is still basically a new side and still in need of fettling. Given our recent run of injuries and the embargo many players are still getting used to those around them, so this next two weeks could prove to be more than useful in putting things together. We are still in early days of a 46 game season, and the January window will now be crucial to getting the balance needed and maybe the genius we need at the front. Far too early to despair and even the manager is learning to curb his thoughts in public. Indeed the future may yet be bright. We are still in there, and that is where we need to be, in there to win it.
If you really want something to worry about, ponder this, if we do go up, how many from this squad would be good enough for the CCC ? Really ?
Spot on! Very good post!
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: I also think many are over looking the fact that Notts Co, are a good outfit and started the game above us in the league and therefore indicating they are a decent side. We have to be aware that other sides are stronger and have better balanced sides than we do. Most of these sides have evolved over several seasons as opposed to ours which is still basically a new side and still in need of fettling. Given our recent run of injuries and the embargo many players are still getting used to those around them, so this next two weeks could prove to be more than useful in putting things together. We are still in early days of a 46 game season, and the January window will now be crucial to getting the balance needed and maybe the genius we need at the front. Far too early to despair and even the manager is learning to curb his thoughts in public. Indeed the future may yet be bright. We are still in there, and that is where we need to be, in there to win it. If you really want something to worry about, ponder this, if we do go up, how many from this squad would be good enough for the CCC ? Really ?[/p][/quote]Spot on! Very good post! bongiaz

8:36pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Oi Den! says...

Malkym wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Malkym wrote:
wurzelday wrote: An honest, and balanced comment from pdc. I think as fans we have to say he has been very fair in this post match analysis.
Agreed Wurz just listened to it.An honest observation of our current form I thought and a candid assessment of our current striking players ability. I noted there was no overt cricism of their performance other than I think PdC still thought that at least one or more of the created chances should have been converted. Robinonfire says... 5:28pm Sat 24 Nov 12 To many changes by PDC have cost us points. Should of started with Storey and Martin.” To many changes by PDC have cost us points. Should of started with Storey and Martin. Robinonfire - so that combination would have guaranteed goals then would it? and more so than by starting W & C?
You sure about the lack of overt criticism Malk? I thought I heard him say McCormack was a disaster.
Den - can't say I did hear that but like others felt that it was a very fair and measured response -he is right we are no more than average and anybody that thinks otherwise is surely deluding themselves -sure we had no luck today it seems but it doesn't paper over the glaring cracks of a woeful lack of striking prowess.
Heard about several missed chances today but I'm not sure whether the strikers were the culprits or not.
.
I doubt you'll agree with me but I think PDC should be getting more out of his squad than he's doing at the moment. It seems that nearly every team we've come up against lately has shown more guile and played more football than us. People moan about teams playing defensively against us but I would much rather see our side play defensively with the ball on the deck than PDC's preferred tactic of launching balls "into the channels", which amounts to no more that hit and hope.
[quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wurzelday[/bold] wrote: An honest, and balanced comment from pdc. I think as fans we have to say he has been very fair in this post match analysis.[/p][/quote]Agreed Wurz just listened to it.An honest observation of our current form I thought and a candid assessment of our current striking players ability. I noted there was no overt cricism of their performance other than I think PdC still thought that at least one or more of the created chances should have been converted. Robinonfire says... 5:28pm Sat 24 Nov 12 To many changes by PDC have cost us points. Should of started with Storey and Martin.” To many changes by PDC have cost us points. Should of started with Storey and Martin. Robinonfire - so that combination would have guaranteed goals then would it? and more so than by starting W & C?[/p][/quote]You sure about the lack of overt criticism Malk? I thought I heard him say McCormack was a disaster.[/p][/quote]Den - can't say I did hear that but like others felt that it was a very fair and measured response -he is right we are no more than average and anybody that thinks otherwise is surely deluding themselves -sure we had no luck today it seems but it doesn't paper over the glaring cracks of a woeful lack of striking prowess.[/p][/quote]Heard about several missed chances today but I'm not sure whether the strikers were the culprits or not. . I doubt you'll agree with me but I think PDC should be getting more out of his squad than he's doing at the moment. It seems that nearly every team we've come up against lately has shown more guile and played more football than us. People moan about teams playing defensively against us but I would much rather see our side play defensively with the ball on the deck than PDC's preferred tactic of launching balls "into the channels", which amounts to no more that hit and hope. Oi Den!

8:39pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Oi Den! says...

"... no more than hit and hope"
"... no more than hit and hope" Oi Den!

8:48pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Robinonfire says...

From what iv seen this season..If we play this team from now on we will win the L1
Fodringham
McEveley
McCormack
Devera
Ward
Richie
Ferry
Bostock
De Vita
Storey
Martin

Come on you REDS
From what iv seen this season..If we play this team from now on we will win the L1 Fodringham McEveley McCormack Devera Ward Richie Ferry Bostock De Vita Storey Martin Come on you REDS Robinonfire

9:01pm Sat 24 Nov 12

jayden says...

Oi Den! wrote:
"... no more than hit and hope"
Den how are you? Iwas looking for you on tues night but their are so many that fit your description i took a punt and asked one but he just said ill be anyone you want to be ducky .Are you going to the youth game?
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: "... no more than hit and hope"[/p][/quote]Den how are you? Iwas looking for you on tues night but their are so many that fit your description i took a punt and asked one but he just said ill be anyone you want to be ducky .Are you going to the youth game? jayden

9:07pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Malkym says...

How can he get more out of his players than he is doing? It seems from what I heard today that we can several good chances including hitting the post and at least most efforts were on target and again according to the radio had a good percentage of the play up until the last 15mins or so. I'm not one to make excuses but the conditions weren't great but same for both sides. As with Brentford -first half at least we 've come up against a keeper on top form and you're right about guile but to me its the players that need to show that. Why's McCormack picking up so many bookings? Answer he's off the pace and therefore gets caught commiting fouls as a result.

I do think our playing style has been well sussed now and we are back to no plan B which is a worry and Pdc does need to try and work out a counter plan.
How can he get more out of his players than he is doing? It seems from what I heard today that we can several good chances including hitting the post and at least most efforts were on target and again according to the radio had a good percentage of the play up until the last 15mins or so. I'm not one to make excuses but the conditions weren't great but same for both sides. As with Brentford -first half at least we 've come up against a keeper on top form and you're right about guile but to me its the players that need to show that. Why's McCormack picking up so many bookings? Answer he's off the pace and therefore gets caught commiting fouls as a result. I do think our playing style has been well sussed now and we are back to no plan B which is a worry and Pdc does need to try and work out a counter plan. Malkym

9:24pm Sat 24 Nov 12

jayden says...

Malkym wrote:
How can he get more out of his players than he is doing? It seems from what I heard today that we can several good chances including hitting the post and at least most efforts were on target and again according to the radio had a good percentage of the play up until the last 15mins or so. I'm not one to make excuses but the conditions weren't great but same for both sides. As with Brentford -first half at least we 've come up against a keeper on top form and you're right about guile but to me its the players that need to show that. Why's McCormack picking up so many bookings? Answer he's off the pace and therefore gets caught commiting fouls as a result.

I do think our playing style has been well sussed now and we are back to no plan B which is a worry and Pdc does need to try and work out a counter plan.
Hi Malkym Den was right pdc did mention mcCormack i think hes not happy with his game.He got booked a lot last season and will miss more games now i would like to see ferry as captain now .Icould not stomach the way McCormack rolled around on the floor holding his head as he lost the ball against YT and they went on to score i was glad pdc dropped him next game a utter disgrace.
[quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: How can he get more out of his players than he is doing? It seems from what I heard today that we can several good chances including hitting the post and at least most efforts were on target and again according to the radio had a good percentage of the play up until the last 15mins or so. I'm not one to make excuses but the conditions weren't great but same for both sides. As with Brentford -first half at least we 've come up against a keeper on top form and you're right about guile but to me its the players that need to show that. Why's McCormack picking up so many bookings? Answer he's off the pace and therefore gets caught commiting fouls as a result. I do think our playing style has been well sussed now and we are back to no plan B which is a worry and Pdc does need to try and work out a counter plan.[/p][/quote]Hi Malkym Den was right pdc did mention mcCormack i think hes not happy with his game.He got booked a lot last season and will miss more games now i would like to see ferry as captain now .Icould not stomach the way McCormack rolled around on the floor holding his head as he lost the ball against YT and they went on to score i was glad pdc dropped him next game a utter disgrace. jayden

9:29pm Sat 24 Nov 12

the wizard says...

Malkym,

You wrote,

I do think our playing style has been well sussed now and we are back to no plan B which is a worry and Pdc does need to try and work out a counter plan.

I say this very tongue in cheek, does this mean that our illustrious manger has to get them playing football, the passing game on the ground because there are no goalposts 20/30 foot in the air ?

Now as most know I was no big fan of Wilson in his third season, that aside I will give him credit where it's due. In the play off season we used to string 20 odd passes together at a time and while we had the ball they didn't and couldn't score. Yes, it allowed the other side time to get men behind the ball, but it was good enough to get us into the play offs, and week in, week out that season we played some of the best stuff League One had seen since the days of Hoddle and Ossie, so why oh why can't this self proclaimed genius do the same with what amounts to, allegedly better players. Sorry for the long post, I hope you see my point.
Malkym, You wrote, I do think our playing style has been well sussed now and we are back to no plan B which is a worry and Pdc does need to try and work out a counter plan. I say this very tongue in cheek, does this mean that our illustrious manger has to get them playing football, the passing game on the ground because there are no goalposts 20/30 foot in the air ? Now as most know I was no big fan of Wilson in his third season, that aside I will give him credit where it's due. In the play off season we used to string 20 odd passes together at a time and while we had the ball they didn't and couldn't score. Yes, it allowed the other side time to get men behind the ball, but it was good enough to get us into the play offs, and week in, week out that season we played some of the best stuff League One had seen since the days of Hoddle and Ossie, so why oh why can't this self proclaimed genius do the same with what amounts to, allegedly better players. Sorry for the long post, I hope you see my point. the wizard

9:42pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Oxon-Red says...

Time for PDC to go IMO.

Time to lower expectations and give us a real reason to moan.

COYMR
Time for PDC to go IMO. Time to lower expectations and give us a real reason to moan. COYMR Oxon-Red

9:51pm Sat 24 Nov 12

jayden says...

the wizard wrote:
Malkym,

You wrote,

I do think our playing style has been well sussed now and we are back to no plan B which is a worry and Pdc does need to try and work out a counter plan.

I say this very tongue in cheek, does this mean that our illustrious manger has to get them playing football, the passing game on the ground because there are no goalposts 20/30 foot in the air ?

Now as most know I was no big fan of Wilson in his third season, that aside I will give him credit where it's due. In the play off season we used to string 20 odd passes together at a time and while we had the ball they didn't and couldn't score. Yes, it allowed the other side time to get men behind the ball, but it was good enough to get us into the play offs, and week in, week out that season we played some of the best stuff League One had seen since the days of Hoddle and Ossie, so why oh why can't this self proclaimed genius do the same with what amounts to, allegedly better players. Sorry for the long post, I hope you see my point.
Wiz you have a point but you can pass pass pass but unless you stick the ball in the net at the end of it lumping it is the same the ball has to go in the net.Wilson had Austin and B.P we have W C big difference im afraid .Note for you the youth team wide men swap wings in the matchs.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Malkym, You wrote, I do think our playing style has been well sussed now and we are back to no plan B which is a worry and Pdc does need to try and work out a counter plan. I say this very tongue in cheek, does this mean that our illustrious manger has to get them playing football, the passing game on the ground because there are no goalposts 20/30 foot in the air ? Now as most know I was no big fan of Wilson in his third season, that aside I will give him credit where it's due. In the play off season we used to string 20 odd passes together at a time and while we had the ball they didn't and couldn't score. Yes, it allowed the other side time to get men behind the ball, but it was good enough to get us into the play offs, and week in, week out that season we played some of the best stuff League One had seen since the days of Hoddle and Ossie, so why oh why can't this self proclaimed genius do the same with what amounts to, allegedly better players. Sorry for the long post, I hope you see my point.[/p][/quote]Wiz you have a point but you can pass pass pass but unless you stick the ball in the net at the end of it lumping it is the same the ball has to go in the net.Wilson had Austin and B.P we have W C big difference im afraid .Note for you the youth team wide men swap wings in the matchs. jayden

9:55pm Sat 24 Nov 12

mancrobin says...

Robinonfire wrote:
From what iv seen this season..If we play this team from now on we will win the L1
Fodringham
McEveley
McCormack
Devera
Ward
Richie
Ferry
Bostock
De Vita
Storey
Martin

Come on you REDS
Wouldn't argue much with that Robinonfire and I just wish we could play a side like this for 2 or 3 games on the trot. They might then become a team!

We would also have a really impressive bench - the Thompsons, Williams, Flint, Collins, Roberts (he'll come good don't worry), Holland? What an impressive set of options if it needs a bit of umph or (Lord forbid) we needed to switch to 4-3-3 or 4-5-1.

The two positions that would worry me most for cover would be goalkeeper and right wing but neither position I've heard mentioned in despatches for loan targets?
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: From what iv seen this season..If we play this team from now on we will win the L1 Fodringham McEveley McCormack Devera Ward Richie Ferry Bostock De Vita Storey Martin Come on you REDS[/p][/quote]Wouldn't argue much with that Robinonfire and I just wish we could play a side like this for 2 or 3 games on the trot. They might then become a team! We would also have a really impressive bench - the Thompsons, Williams, Flint, Collins, Roberts (he'll come good don't worry), Holland? What an impressive set of options if it needs a bit of umph or (Lord forbid) we needed to switch to 4-3-3 or 4-5-1. The two positions that would worry me most for cover would be goalkeeper and right wing but neither position I've heard mentioned in despatches for loan targets? mancrobin

10:16pm Sat 24 Nov 12

the wizard says...

jayden wrote:
the wizard wrote:
Malkym,

You wrote,

I do think our playing style has been well sussed now and we are back to no plan B which is a worry and Pdc does need to try and work out a counter plan.

I say this very tongue in cheek, does this mean that our illustrious manger has to get them playing football, the passing game on the ground because there are no goalposts 20/30 foot in the air ?

Now as most know I was no big fan of Wilson in his third season, that aside I will give him credit where it's due. In the play off season we used to string 20 odd passes together at a time and while we had the ball they didn't and couldn't score. Yes, it allowed the other side time to get men behind the ball, but it was good enough to get us into the play offs, and week in, week out that season we played some of the best stuff League One had seen since the days of Hoddle and Ossie, so why oh why can't this self proclaimed genius do the same with what amounts to, allegedly better players. Sorry for the long post, I hope you see my point.
Wiz you have a point but you can pass pass pass but unless you stick the ball in the net at the end of it lumping it is the same the ball has to go in the net.Wilson had Austin and B.P we have W C big difference im afraid .Note for you the youth team wide men swap wings in the matchs.
Hi Jayden,

Yes I agree, but it does avoid just kicking up field and hoping. If we have the ball they can't score.

Yes, I like the idea of wingers swapping over, a point that has often been debated. I for one would love to see it. Ritchie would be on his natural side so we would get more out of him I'm sure. As goes RDV, I don't know what he is like on the right, but I'm sure he would give it a decent go.
I don't think there is much wrong with W + C just that injuries and Tinker man tinkering has got the better of them. Lets face it the rest of the team are hardly having a brilliant time this season. I still think our manager saw League One as an extension from where we were last year. Said it before and I am convinced he has seriously under estimated the standard same as he did with League Two when he signed his first raft of players who mostly disappeared quite quickly in general terms, and then the whole Magera disaster. Oh boy that was a Collectors Item, the money that got threw away there, Ouch !
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Malkym, You wrote, I do think our playing style has been well sussed now and we are back to no plan B which is a worry and Pdc does need to try and work out a counter plan. I say this very tongue in cheek, does this mean that our illustrious manger has to get them playing football, the passing game on the ground because there are no goalposts 20/30 foot in the air ? Now as most know I was no big fan of Wilson in his third season, that aside I will give him credit where it's due. In the play off season we used to string 20 odd passes together at a time and while we had the ball they didn't and couldn't score. Yes, it allowed the other side time to get men behind the ball, but it was good enough to get us into the play offs, and week in, week out that season we played some of the best stuff League One had seen since the days of Hoddle and Ossie, so why oh why can't this self proclaimed genius do the same with what amounts to, allegedly better players. Sorry for the long post, I hope you see my point.[/p][/quote]Wiz you have a point but you can pass pass pass but unless you stick the ball in the net at the end of it lumping it is the same the ball has to go in the net.Wilson had Austin and B.P we have W C big difference im afraid .Note for you the youth team wide men swap wings in the matchs.[/p][/quote]Hi Jayden, Yes I agree, but it does avoid just kicking up field and hoping. If we have the ball they can't score. Yes, I like the idea of wingers swapping over, a point that has often been debated. I for one would love to see it. Ritchie would be on his natural side so we would get more out of him I'm sure. As goes RDV, I don't know what he is like on the right, but I'm sure he would give it a decent go. I don't think there is much wrong with W + C just that injuries and Tinker man tinkering has got the better of them. Lets face it the rest of the team are hardly having a brilliant time this season. I still think our manager saw League One as an extension from where we were last year. Said it before and I am convinced he has seriously under estimated the standard same as he did with League Two when he signed his first raft of players who mostly disappeared quite quickly in general terms, and then the whole Magera disaster. Oh boy that was a Collectors Item, the money that got threw away there, Ouch ! the wizard

10:46pm Sat 24 Nov 12

glasred says...

After two defeats we are still only 7 points off top spot.
As PDC said in his after match interview..this time last year I said we will win this league. (we had some pretty ineffective players at that time as well)
PDC is still smarting from the embargo which was lifted recently. He is hanging on to that as a reason for not being possible to get promotion again this season.
He keeps saying stupid things like "wish we were playing away as some of the players may not be up for it" before the Brentford game,and wishing it was an away fixture!
In his after match radio interview he said it will be good to reach 50 points ..and therefore safety! This kind of defeatist talk manifests into reality.
This is not the guns blazing PDC of last season. This sulking /negative attitude has been coming from PDC since Jeremy Wray was replaced.
PDC has been backed by this board to the hilt and and I think he needs to get over himself and start talking up his players and ambitions for this season.
PDC cant have it all his own way,and the sooner he gets this message the better. IF PDC chose to wind everyone up for promotion this season he could...he chooses NOT to and instead infers that the board are happy to stay in L1 this season,and gives that as his reason for settling for survival.
PDC could use his inspiration for a promotion drive this season...but instead he prefers to pretend the chance has passed due to the embargo.
Who are you trying to fool PDC?,the removal of JW is the true reson for your current attitude.
After two defeats we are still only 7 points off top spot. As PDC said in his after match interview..this time last year I said we will win this league. (we had some pretty ineffective players at that time as well) PDC is still smarting from the embargo which was lifted recently. He is hanging on to that as a reason for not being possible to get promotion again this season. He keeps saying stupid things like "wish we were playing away as some of the players may not be up for it" before the Brentford game,and wishing it was an away fixture! In his after match radio interview he said it will be good to reach 50 points ..and therefore safety! This kind of defeatist talk manifests into reality. This is not the guns blazing PDC of last season. This sulking /negative attitude has been coming from PDC since Jeremy Wray was replaced. PDC has been backed by this board to the hilt and and I think he needs to get over himself and start talking up his players and ambitions for this season. PDC cant have it all his own way,and the sooner he gets this message the better. IF PDC chose to wind everyone up for promotion this season he could...he chooses NOT to and instead infers that the board are happy to stay in L1 this season,and gives that as his reason for settling for survival. PDC could use his inspiration for a promotion drive this season...but instead he prefers to pretend the chance has passed due to the embargo. Who are you trying to fool PDC?,the removal of JW is the true reson for your current attitude. glasred

10:46pm Sat 24 Nov 12

glasred says...

After two defeats we are still only 7 points off top spot.
As PDC said in his after match interview..this time last year I said we will win this league. (we had some pretty ineffective players at that time as well)
PDC is still smarting from the embargo which was lifted recently. He is hanging on to that as a reason for not being possible to get promotion again this season.
He keeps saying stupid things like "wish we were playing away as some of the players may not be up for it" before the Brentford game,and wishing it was an away fixture!
In his after match radio interview he said it will be good to reach 50 points ..and therefore safety! This kind of defeatist talk manifests into reality.
This is not the guns blazing PDC of last season. This sulking /negative attitude has been coming from PDC since Jeremy Wray was replaced.
PDC has been backed by this board to the hilt and and I think he needs to get over himself and start talking up his players and ambitions for this season.
PDC cant have it all his own way,and the sooner he gets this message the better. IF PDC chose to wind everyone up for promotion this season he could...he chooses NOT to and instead infers that the board are happy to stay in L1 this season,and gives that as his reason for settling for survival.
PDC could use his inspiration for a promotion drive this season...but instead he prefers to pretend the chance has passed due to the embargo.
Who are you trying to fool PDC?,the removal of JW is the true reson for your current attitude.
After two defeats we are still only 7 points off top spot. As PDC said in his after match interview..this time last year I said we will win this league. (we had some pretty ineffective players at that time as well) PDC is still smarting from the embargo which was lifted recently. He is hanging on to that as a reason for not being possible to get promotion again this season. He keeps saying stupid things like "wish we were playing away as some of the players may not be up for it" before the Brentford game,and wishing it was an away fixture! In his after match radio interview he said it will be good to reach 50 points ..and therefore safety! This kind of defeatist talk manifests into reality. This is not the guns blazing PDC of last season. This sulking /negative attitude has been coming from PDC since Jeremy Wray was replaced. PDC has been backed by this board to the hilt and and I think he needs to get over himself and start talking up his players and ambitions for this season. PDC cant have it all his own way,and the sooner he gets this message the better. IF PDC chose to wind everyone up for promotion this season he could...he chooses NOT to and instead infers that the board are happy to stay in L1 this season,and gives that as his reason for settling for survival. PDC could use his inspiration for a promotion drive this season...but instead he prefers to pretend the chance has passed due to the embargo. Who are you trying to fool PDC?,the removal of JW is the true reson for your current attitude. glasred

11:16pm Sat 24 Nov 12

southside7 says...

glasred wrote:
After two defeats we are still only 7 points off top spot.
As PDC said in his after match interview..this time last year I said we will win this league. (we had some pretty ineffective players at that time as well)
PDC is still smarting from the embargo which was lifted recently. He is hanging on to that as a reason for not being possible to get promotion again this season.
He keeps saying stupid things like "wish we were playing away as some of the players may not be up for it" before the Brentford game,and wishing it was an away fixture!
In his after match radio interview he said it will be good to reach 50 points ..and therefore safety! This kind of defeatist talk manifests into reality.
This is not the guns blazing PDC of last season. This sulking /negative attitude has been coming from PDC since Jeremy Wray was replaced.
PDC has been backed by this board to the hilt and and I think he needs to get over himself and start talking up his players and ambitions for this season.
PDC cant have it all his own way,and the sooner he gets this message the better. IF PDC chose to wind everyone up for promotion this season he could...he chooses NOT to and instead infers that the board are happy to stay in L1 this season,and gives that as his reason for settling for survival.
PDC could use his inspiration for a promotion drive this season...but instead he prefers to pretend the chance has passed due to the embargo.
Who are you trying to fool PDC?,the removal of JW is the true reson for your current attitude.
This is a good post and I've been thinking the same thing recently. My conlcusion is that last season he saw hope and knew we had the ability to get up as champions. This season I really think that he's realised this is a much harder task with the quality we have. And in my view this also highlights his shortcomings as a manager. Truly great managers would be able to eek out more from a set of players and achieve bigger things. This is the reason that I think PdC is not quite the exceptional manager that he thinks he is just after qualifying for his badges in Italy. It's as much a reality check for 'him' as it is for the fans. Walk before you can run Paolo, seek humility, you are not the special one yet, you have to earn that title over time.
[quote][p][bold]glasred[/bold] wrote: After two defeats we are still only 7 points off top spot. As PDC said in his after match interview..this time last year I said we will win this league. (we had some pretty ineffective players at that time as well) PDC is still smarting from the embargo which was lifted recently. He is hanging on to that as a reason for not being possible to get promotion again this season. He keeps saying stupid things like "wish we were playing away as some of the players may not be up for it" before the Brentford game,and wishing it was an away fixture! In his after match radio interview he said it will be good to reach 50 points ..and therefore safety! This kind of defeatist talk manifests into reality. This is not the guns blazing PDC of last season. This sulking /negative attitude has been coming from PDC since Jeremy Wray was replaced. PDC has been backed by this board to the hilt and and I think he needs to get over himself and start talking up his players and ambitions for this season. PDC cant have it all his own way,and the sooner he gets this message the better. IF PDC chose to wind everyone up for promotion this season he could...he chooses NOT to and instead infers that the board are happy to stay in L1 this season,and gives that as his reason for settling for survival. PDC could use his inspiration for a promotion drive this season...but instead he prefers to pretend the chance has passed due to the embargo. Who are you trying to fool PDC?,the removal of JW is the true reson for your current attitude.[/p][/quote]This is a good post and I've been thinking the same thing recently. My conlcusion is that last season he saw hope and knew we had the ability to get up as champions. This season I really think that he's realised this is a much harder task with the quality we have. And in my view this also highlights his shortcomings as a manager. Truly great managers would be able to eek out more from a set of players and achieve bigger things. This is the reason that I think PdC is not quite the exceptional manager that he thinks he is just after qualifying for his badges in Italy. It's as much a reality check for 'him' as it is for the fans. Walk before you can run Paolo, seek humility, you are not the special one yet, you have to earn that title over time. southside7

11:28pm Sat 24 Nov 12

the wizard says...

The season is still far from over and In still think these players can come good. In real terms there is not a truly "bad player" among them, its all down to getting the best out of them. If anything is needed right now perhaps a fresh approach to things, a settled team, and a captain who has the players respect. I'm not saying by the way that Macca or Ferry don't, before people read too much into that.
We all know some of the players from last year,and the ones that have come in are all from decent clubs and have recent good records, Williams and Collins included, so we have now to concentrate on what and where they play best and in which style. My guess is they like the ball played to their feet from the back not onto their heads or chest with defenders incoming . We know that Ritchie and RDV can supply good balls in from the wings and Ferry up through the middle, Bostock also can provide good service, so is it down to a steady team not so many rotations each week and building some understandings and confidence. We certainly had lots of that earlier in the season at Brighton and Stoke.
Or is it the politics some suggest ?
The season is still far from over and In still think these players can come good. In real terms there is not a truly "bad player" among them, its all down to getting the best out of them. If anything is needed right now perhaps a fresh approach to things, a settled team, and a captain who has the players respect. I'm not saying by the way that Macca or Ferry don't, before people read too much into that. We all know some of the players from last year,and the ones that have come in are all from decent clubs and have recent good records, Williams and Collins included, so we have now to concentrate on what and where they play best and in which style. My guess is they like the ball played to their feet from the back not onto their heads or chest with defenders incoming . We know that Ritchie and RDV can supply good balls in from the wings and Ferry up through the middle, Bostock also can provide good service, so is it down to a steady team not so many rotations each week and building some understandings and confidence. We certainly had lots of that earlier in the season at Brighton and Stoke. Or is it the politics some suggest ? the wizard

1:12am Sun 25 Nov 12

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

southside7 wrote:
glasred wrote: After two defeats we are still only 7 points off top spot. As PDC said in his after match interview..this time last year I said we will win this league. (we had some pretty ineffective players at that time as well) PDC is still smarting from the embargo which was lifted recently. He is hanging on to that as a reason for not being possible to get promotion again this season. He keeps saying stupid things like "wish we were playing away as some of the players may not be up for it" before the Brentford game,and wishing it was an away fixture! In his after match radio interview he said it will be good to reach 50 points ..and therefore safety! This kind of defeatist talk manifests into reality. This is not the guns blazing PDC of last season. This sulking /negative attitude has been coming from PDC since Jeremy Wray was replaced. PDC has been backed by this board to the hilt and and I think he needs to get over himself and start talking up his players and ambitions for this season. PDC cant have it all his own way,and the sooner he gets this message the better. IF PDC chose to wind everyone up for promotion this season he could...he chooses NOT to and instead infers that the board are happy to stay in L1 this season,and gives that as his reason for settling for survival. PDC could use his inspiration for a promotion drive this season...but instead he prefers to pretend the chance has passed due to the embargo. Who are you trying to fool PDC?,the removal of JW is the true reson for your current attitude.
This is a good post and I've been thinking the same thing recently. My conlcusion is that last season he saw hope and knew we had the ability to get up as champions. This season I really think that he's realised this is a much harder task with the quality we have. And in my view this also highlights his shortcomings as a manager. Truly great managers would be able to eek out more from a set of players and achieve bigger things. This is the reason that I think PdC is not quite the exceptional manager that he thinks he is just after qualifying for his badges in Italy. It's as much a reality check for 'him' as it is for the fans. Walk before you can run Paolo, seek humility, you are not the special one yet, you have to earn that title over time.
Spot on chaps and south side your right he is not the special 1 and never will be..

I think pdc MIGHT have took STFC as far as he can as he seems 2be running out of tactical option and thats why we are seeing alot of long ball football..
Look at it again 2day all subs were like for like but as i was not there did the tactics change when the subs came on ???
[quote][p][bold]southside7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glasred[/bold] wrote: After two defeats we are still only 7 points off top spot. As PDC said in his after match interview..this time last year I said we will win this league. (we had some pretty ineffective players at that time as well) PDC is still smarting from the embargo which was lifted recently. He is hanging on to that as a reason for not being possible to get promotion again this season. He keeps saying stupid things like "wish we were playing away as some of the players may not be up for it" before the Brentford game,and wishing it was an away fixture! In his after match radio interview he said it will be good to reach 50 points ..and therefore safety! This kind of defeatist talk manifests into reality. This is not the guns blazing PDC of last season. This sulking /negative attitude has been coming from PDC since Jeremy Wray was replaced. PDC has been backed by this board to the hilt and and I think he needs to get over himself and start talking up his players and ambitions for this season. PDC cant have it all his own way,and the sooner he gets this message the better. IF PDC chose to wind everyone up for promotion this season he could...he chooses NOT to and instead infers that the board are happy to stay in L1 this season,and gives that as his reason for settling for survival. PDC could use his inspiration for a promotion drive this season...but instead he prefers to pretend the chance has passed due to the embargo. Who are you trying to fool PDC?,the removal of JW is the true reson for your current attitude.[/p][/quote]This is a good post and I've been thinking the same thing recently. My conlcusion is that last season he saw hope and knew we had the ability to get up as champions. This season I really think that he's realised this is a much harder task with the quality we have. And in my view this also highlights his shortcomings as a manager. Truly great managers would be able to eek out more from a set of players and achieve bigger things. This is the reason that I think PdC is not quite the exceptional manager that he thinks he is just after qualifying for his badges in Italy. It's as much a reality check for 'him' as it is for the fans. Walk before you can run Paolo, seek humility, you are not the special one yet, you have to earn that title over time.[/p][/quote]Spot on chaps and south side your right he is not the special 1 and never will be.. I think pdc MIGHT have took STFC as far as he can as he seems 2be running out of tactical option and thats why we are seeing alot of long ball football.. Look at it again 2day all subs were like for like but as i was not there did the tactics change when the subs came on ??? DarrenSTFCRomain

8:11am Sun 25 Nov 12

Malkym says...

jayden wrote:
the wizard wrote: Malkym, You wrote, I do think our playing style has been well sussed now and we are back to no plan B which is a worry and Pdc does need to try and work out a counter plan. I say this very tongue in cheek, does this mean that our illustrious manger has to get them playing football, the passing game on the ground because there are no goalposts 20/30 foot in the air ? Now as most know I was no big fan of Wilson in his third season, that aside I will give him credit where it's due. In the play off season we used to string 20 odd passes together at a time and while we had the ball they didn't and couldn't score. Yes, it allowed the other side time to get men behind the ball, but it was good enough to get us into the play offs, and week in, week out that season we played some of the best stuff League One had seen since the days of Hoddle and Ossie, so why oh why can't this self proclaimed genius do the same with what amounts to, allegedly better players. Sorry for the long post, I hope you see my point.
Wiz you have a point but you can pass pass pass but unless you stick the ball in the net at the end of it lumping it is the same the ball has to go in the net.Wilson had Austin and B.P we have W C big difference im afraid .Note for you the youth team wide men swap wings in the matchs.
Jayden absolutely right - WC the bog roll 2 are simply not good enough -simples!
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Malkym, You wrote, I do think our playing style has been well sussed now and we are back to no plan B which is a worry and Pdc does need to try and work out a counter plan. I say this very tongue in cheek, does this mean that our illustrious manger has to get them playing football, the passing game on the ground because there are no goalposts 20/30 foot in the air ? Now as most know I was no big fan of Wilson in his third season, that aside I will give him credit where it's due. In the play off season we used to string 20 odd passes together at a time and while we had the ball they didn't and couldn't score. Yes, it allowed the other side time to get men behind the ball, but it was good enough to get us into the play offs, and week in, week out that season we played some of the best stuff League One had seen since the days of Hoddle and Ossie, so why oh why can't this self proclaimed genius do the same with what amounts to, allegedly better players. Sorry for the long post, I hope you see my point.[/p][/quote]Wiz you have a point but you can pass pass pass but unless you stick the ball in the net at the end of it lumping it is the same the ball has to go in the net.Wilson had Austin and B.P we have W C big difference im afraid .Note for you the youth team wide men swap wings in the matchs.[/p][/quote]Jayden absolutely right - WC the bog roll 2 are simply not good enough -simples! Malkym

8:21am Sun 25 Nov 12

robstfc says...

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
southside7 wrote:
glasred wrote: After two defeats we are still only 7 points off top spot. As PDC said in his after match interview..this time last year I said we will win this league. (we had some pretty ineffective players at that time as well) PDC is still smarting from the embargo which was lifted recently. He is hanging on to that as a reason for not being possible to get promotion again this season. He keeps saying stupid things like "wish we were playing away as some of the players may not be up for it" before the Brentford game,and wishing it was an away fixture! In his after match radio interview he said it will be good to reach 50 points ..and therefore safety! This kind of defeatist talk manifests into reality. This is not the guns blazing PDC of last season. This sulking /negative attitude has been coming from PDC since Jeremy Wray was replaced. PDC has been backed by this board to the hilt and and I think he needs to get over himself and start talking up his players and ambitions for this season. PDC cant have it all his own way,and the sooner he gets this message the better. IF PDC chose to wind everyone up for promotion this season he could...he chooses NOT to and instead infers that the board are happy to stay in L1 this season,and gives that as his reason for settling for survival. PDC could use his inspiration for a promotion drive this season...but instead he prefers to pretend the chance has passed due to the embargo. Who are you trying to fool PDC?,the removal of JW is the true reson for your current attitude.
This is a good post and I've been thinking the same thing recently. My conlcusion is that last season he saw hope and knew we had the ability to get up as champions. This season I really think that he's realised this is a much harder task with the quality we have. And in my view this also highlights his shortcomings as a manager. Truly great managers would be able to eek out more from a set of players and achieve bigger things. This is the reason that I think PdC is not quite the exceptional manager that he thinks he is just after qualifying for his badges in Italy. It's as much a reality check for 'him' as it is for the fans. Walk before you can run Paolo, seek humility, you are not the special one yet, you have to earn that title over time.
Spot on chaps and south side your right he is not the special 1 and never will be..

I think pdc MIGHT have took STFC as far as he can as he seems 2be running out of tactical option and thats why we are seeing alot of long ball football..
Look at it again 2day all subs were like for like but as i was not there did the tactics change when the subs came on ???
I just have to agree with the above posts...... Paolo is very negative in his pre match comments, re wishing he was playing away, talking about getting to 50 points etc etc this must have an affect on the players.... We can only guess on his attitude in training....
Then there's the games themselves where Paolo just doesn't seem to have the ability to change it around at the moment.... This isn't due to a lack of options but is in part due to a lack of ability in some players... All players that Paolo brought to this club and a lot on very high wages.... No manager in the history of our club has ever been so fortunate......
Paolo needs to stop acting like a spoilt child and get on with managing and motivating the team.... The 2 weeks rest will do us all good, although I doubt the players will be getting that much rest....... Lets start the season again on 8 th Dec...... COYR
[quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southside7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glasred[/bold] wrote: After two defeats we are still only 7 points off top spot. As PDC said in his after match interview..this time last year I said we will win this league. (we had some pretty ineffective players at that time as well) PDC is still smarting from the embargo which was lifted recently. He is hanging on to that as a reason for not being possible to get promotion again this season. He keeps saying stupid things like "wish we were playing away as some of the players may not be up for it" before the Brentford game,and wishing it was an away fixture! In his after match radio interview he said it will be good to reach 50 points ..and therefore safety! This kind of defeatist talk manifests into reality. This is not the guns blazing PDC of last season. This sulking /negative attitude has been coming from PDC since Jeremy Wray was replaced. PDC has been backed by this board to the hilt and and I think he needs to get over himself and start talking up his players and ambitions for this season. PDC cant have it all his own way,and the sooner he gets this message the better. IF PDC chose to wind everyone up for promotion this season he could...he chooses NOT to and instead infers that the board are happy to stay in L1 this season,and gives that as his reason for settling for survival. PDC could use his inspiration for a promotion drive this season...but instead he prefers to pretend the chance has passed due to the embargo. Who are you trying to fool PDC?,the removal of JW is the true reson for your current attitude.[/p][/quote]This is a good post and I've been thinking the same thing recently. My conlcusion is that last season he saw hope and knew we had the ability to get up as champions. This season I really think that he's realised this is a much harder task with the quality we have. And in my view this also highlights his shortcomings as a manager. Truly great managers would be able to eek out more from a set of players and achieve bigger things. This is the reason that I think PdC is not quite the exceptional manager that he thinks he is just after qualifying for his badges in Italy. It's as much a reality check for 'him' as it is for the fans. Walk before you can run Paolo, seek humility, you are not the special one yet, you have to earn that title over time.[/p][/quote]Spot on chaps and south side your right he is not the special 1 and never will be.. I think pdc MIGHT have took STFC as far as he can as he seems 2be running out of tactical option and thats why we are seeing alot of long ball football.. Look at it again 2day all subs were like for like but as i was not there did the tactics change when the subs came on ???[/p][/quote]I just have to agree with the above posts...... Paolo is very negative in his pre match comments, re wishing he was playing away, talking about getting to 50 points etc etc this must have an affect on the players.... We can only guess on his attitude in training.... Then there's the games themselves where Paolo just doesn't seem to have the ability to change it around at the moment.... This isn't due to a lack of options but is in part due to a lack of ability in some players... All players that Paolo brought to this club and a lot on very high wages.... No manager in the history of our club has ever been so fortunate...... Paolo needs to stop acting like a spoilt child and get on with managing and motivating the team.... The 2 weeks rest will do us all good, although I doubt the players will be getting that much rest....... Lets start the season again on 8 th Dec...... COYR robstfc

8:47am Sun 25 Nov 12

mancrobin says...

the wizard wrote:
The season is still far from over and In still think these players can come good. In real terms there is not a truly "bad player" among them, its all down to getting the best out of them. If anything is needed right now perhaps a fresh approach to things, a settled team, and a captain who has the players respect. I'm not saying by the way that Macca or Ferry don't, before people read too much into that.
We all know some of the players from last year,and the ones that have come in are all from decent clubs and have recent good records, Williams and Collins included, so we have now to concentrate on what and where they play best and in which style. My guess is they like the ball played to their feet from the back not onto their heads or chest with defenders incoming . We know that Ritchie and RDV can supply good balls in from the wings and Ferry up through the middle, Bostock also can provide good service, so is it down to a steady team not so many rotations each week and building some understandings and confidence. We certainly had lots of that earlier in the season at Brighton and Stoke.
Or is it the politics some suggest ?
Well put Wizard and I would concur with that 100%.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: The season is still far from over and In still think these players can come good. In real terms there is not a truly "bad player" among them, its all down to getting the best out of them. If anything is needed right now perhaps a fresh approach to things, a settled team, and a captain who has the players respect. I'm not saying by the way that Macca or Ferry don't, before people read too much into that. We all know some of the players from last year,and the ones that have come in are all from decent clubs and have recent good records, Williams and Collins included, so we have now to concentrate on what and where they play best and in which style. My guess is they like the ball played to their feet from the back not onto their heads or chest with defenders incoming . We know that Ritchie and RDV can supply good balls in from the wings and Ferry up through the middle, Bostock also can provide good service, so is it down to a steady team not so many rotations each week and building some understandings and confidence. We certainly had lots of that earlier in the season at Brighton and Stoke. Or is it the politics some suggest ?[/p][/quote]Well put Wizard and I would concur with that 100%. mancrobin

8:52am Sun 25 Nov 12

smirg kcab says...

Next game
Barn door billy v barn doors Williams and Collins.
Who your money on to score?
None of them all 3 are absolute shiit


Where's sue
Onwards and upwards
Next game Barn door billy v barn doors Williams and Collins. Who your money on to score? None of them all 3 are absolute shiit Where's sue Onwards and upwards smirg kcab

9:50am Sun 25 Nov 12

the don69 says...

robstfc wrote:
DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
southside7 wrote:
glasred wrote: After two defeats we are still only 7 points off top spot. As PDC said in his after match interview..this time last year I said we will win this league. (we had some pretty ineffective players at that time as well) PDC is still smarting from the embargo which was lifted recently. He is hanging on to that as a reason for not being possible to get promotion again this season. He keeps saying stupid things like "wish we were playing away as some of the players may not be up for it" before the Brentford game,and wishing it was an away fixture! In his after match radio interview he said it will be good to reach 50 points ..and therefore safety! This kind of defeatist talk manifests into reality. This is not the guns blazing PDC of last season. This sulking /negative attitude has been coming from PDC since Jeremy Wray was replaced. PDC has been backed by this board to the hilt and and I think he needs to get over himself and start talking up his players and ambitions for this season. PDC cant have it all his own way,and the sooner he gets this message the better. IF PDC chose to wind everyone up for promotion this season he could...he chooses NOT to and instead infers that the board are happy to stay in L1 this season,and gives that as his reason for settling for survival. PDC could use his inspiration for a promotion drive this season...but instead he prefers to pretend the chance has passed due to the embargo. Who are you trying to fool PDC?,the removal of JW is the true reson for your current attitude.
This is a good post and I've been thinking the same thing recently. My conlcusion is that last season he saw hope and knew we had the ability to get up as champions. This season I really think that he's realised this is a much harder task with the quality we have. And in my view this also highlights his shortcomings as a manager. Truly great managers would be able to eek out more from a set of players and achieve bigger things. This is the reason that I think PdC is not quite the exceptional manager that he thinks he is just after qualifying for his badges in Italy. It's as much a reality check for 'him' as it is for the fans. Walk before you can run Paolo, seek humility, you are not the special one yet, you have to earn that title over time.
Spot on chaps and south side your right he is not the special 1 and never will be..

I think pdc MIGHT have took STFC as far as he can as he seems 2be running out of tactical option and thats why we are seeing alot of long ball football..
Look at it again 2day all subs were like for like but as i was not there did the tactics change when the subs came on ???
I just have to agree with the above posts...... Paolo is very negative in his pre match comments, re wishing he was playing away, talking about getting to 50 points etc etc this must have an affect on the players.... We can only guess on his attitude in training....
Then there's the games themselves where Paolo just doesn't seem to have the ability to change it around at the moment.... This isn't due to a lack of options but is in part due to a lack of ability in some players... All players that Paolo brought to this club and a lot on very high wages.... No manager in the history of our club has ever been so fortunate......
Paolo needs to stop acting like a spoilt child and get on with managing and motivating the team.... The 2 weeks rest will do us all good, although I doubt the players will be getting that much rest....... Lets start the season again on 8 th Dec...... COYR
Well said Chaps!Paolo is still a Rookie manager learning his trade,he's not as good manager as he thinks he is!he may become one or he may not!time will tell,so get your head down Paolo and get to work and be more careful of what you say!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]robstfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southside7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]glasred[/bold] wrote: After two defeats we are still only 7 points off top spot. As PDC said in his after match interview..this time last year I said we will win this league. (we had some pretty ineffective players at that time as well) PDC is still smarting from the embargo which was lifted recently. He is hanging on to that as a reason for not being possible to get promotion again this season. He keeps saying stupid things like "wish we were playing away as some of the players may not be up for it" before the Brentford game,and wishing it was an away fixture! In his after match radio interview he said it will be good to reach 50 points ..and therefore safety! This kind of defeatist talk manifests into reality. This is not the guns blazing PDC of last season. This sulking /negative attitude has been coming from PDC since Jeremy Wray was replaced. PDC has been backed by this board to the hilt and and I think he needs to get over himself and start talking up his players and ambitions for this season. PDC cant have it all his own way,and the sooner he gets this message the better. IF PDC chose to wind everyone up for promotion this season he could...he chooses NOT to and instead infers that the board are happy to stay in L1 this season,and gives that as his reason for settling for survival. PDC could use his inspiration for a promotion drive this season...but instead he prefers to pretend the chance has passed due to the embargo. Who are you trying to fool PDC?,the removal of JW is the true reson for your current attitude.[/p][/quote]This is a good post and I've been thinking the same thing recently. My conlcusion is that last season he saw hope and knew we had the ability to get up as champions. This season I really think that he's realised this is a much harder task with the quality we have. And in my view this also highlights his shortcomings as a manager. Truly great managers would be able to eek out more from a set of players and achieve bigger things. This is the reason that I think PdC is not quite the exceptional manager that he thinks he is just after qualifying for his badges in Italy. It's as much a reality check for 'him' as it is for the fans. Walk before you can run Paolo, seek humility, you are not the special one yet, you have to earn that title over time.[/p][/quote]Spot on chaps and south side your right he is not the special 1 and never will be.. I think pdc MIGHT have took STFC as far as he can as he seems 2be running out of tactical option and thats why we are seeing alot of long ball football.. Look at it again 2day all subs were like for like but as i was not there did the tactics change when the subs came on ???[/p][/quote]I just have to agree with the above posts...... Paolo is very negative in his pre match comments, re wishing he was playing away, talking about getting to 50 points etc etc this must have an affect on the players.... We can only guess on his attitude in training.... Then there's the games themselves where Paolo just doesn't seem to have the ability to change it around at the moment.... This isn't due to a lack of options but is in part due to a lack of ability in some players... All players that Paolo brought to this club and a lot on very high wages.... No manager in the history of our club has ever been so fortunate...... Paolo needs to stop acting like a spoilt child and get on with managing and motivating the team.... The 2 weeks rest will do us all good, although I doubt the players will be getting that much rest....... Lets start the season again on 8 th Dec...... COYR[/p][/quote]Well said Chaps!Paolo is still a Rookie manager learning his trade,he's not as good manager as he thinks he is!he may become one or he may not!time will tell,so get your head down Paolo and get to work and be more careful of what you say!!!!!!!! the don69

9:52am Sun 25 Nov 12

the don69 says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Next game
Barn door billy v barn doors Williams and Collins.
Who your money on to score?
None of them all 3 are absolute shiit


Where's sue
Onwards and upwards
Sue can stay lost Grim!Where's our Goalscorer??????????
???????????
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Next game Barn door billy v barn doors Williams and Collins. Who your money on to score? None of them all 3 are absolute shiit Where's sue Onwards and upwards[/p][/quote]Sue can stay lost Grim!Where's our Goalscorer?????????? ??????????? the don69

9:56am Sun 25 Nov 12

smirg kcab says...

the don69 wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Next game
Barn door billy v barn doors Williams and Collins.
Who your money on to score?
None of them all 3 are absolute shiit


Where's sue
Onwards and upwards
Sue can stay lost Grim!Where's our Goalscorer??????????

???????????
Ones on the bench and the other scored the first for Blackpool yesterday
Where's sue
Onwards and upwards
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Next game Barn door billy v barn doors Williams and Collins. Who your money on to score? None of them all 3 are absolute shiit Where's sue Onwards and upwards[/p][/quote]Sue can stay lost Grim!Where's our Goalscorer?????????? ???????????[/p][/quote]Ones on the bench and the other scored the first for Blackpool yesterday Where's sue Onwards and upwards smirg kcab

10:57am Sun 25 Nov 12

the wizard says...

Sid went missing years ago, everybody was looking for him, I think Sue has gone off and joined him, LOL.
Sid went missing years ago, everybody was looking for him, I think Sue has gone off and joined him, LOL. the wizard

11:02am Sun 25 Nov 12

Oi Den! says...

Malkym wrote:
How can he get more out of his players than he is doing? It seems from what I heard today that we can several good chances including hitting the post and at least most efforts were on target and again according to the radio had a good percentage of the play up until the last 15mins or so. I'm not one to make excuses but the conditions weren't great but same for both sides. As with Brentford -first half at least we 've come up against a keeper on top form and you're right about guile but to me its the players that need to show that. Why's McCormack picking up so many bookings? Answer he's off the pace and therefore gets caught commiting fouls as a result.

I do think our playing style has been well sussed now and we are back to no plan B which is a worry and Pdc does need to try and work out a counter plan.
Malk, I'm certainly not trying to judge yesterday's performance, as I wasn't there.
.
I think it's just ridiculous that PDC has one of the most expensive squads in the division and yet he doesn't believe they are any better than a lower mid-table side. If he cannot get his players to achieve any more than that, either he has signed the wrong players or he is not getting the best out of them. Surely it has to be one or the other. Either way, he should stop telling us what a brilliant manager he is, Results will do that for him.
[quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: How can he get more out of his players than he is doing? It seems from what I heard today that we can several good chances including hitting the post and at least most efforts were on target and again according to the radio had a good percentage of the play up until the last 15mins or so. I'm not one to make excuses but the conditions weren't great but same for both sides. As with Brentford -first half at least we 've come up against a keeper on top form and you're right about guile but to me its the players that need to show that. Why's McCormack picking up so many bookings? Answer he's off the pace and therefore gets caught commiting fouls as a result. I do think our playing style has been well sussed now and we are back to no plan B which is a worry and Pdc does need to try and work out a counter plan.[/p][/quote]Malk, I'm certainly not trying to judge yesterday's performance, as I wasn't there. . I think it's just ridiculous that PDC has one of the most expensive squads in the division and yet he doesn't believe they are any better than a lower mid-table side. If he cannot get his players to achieve any more than that, either he has signed the wrong players or he is not getting the best out of them. Surely it has to be one or the other. Either way, he should stop telling us what a brilliant manager he is, Results will do that for him. Oi Den!

11:08am Sun 25 Nov 12

abbotboy says...

glasred, on the other side of the league, how many points are you off the bottom 10 now....
glasred, on the other side of the league, how many points are you off the bottom 10 now.... abbotboy

11:09am Sun 25 Nov 12

umpcah says...

the wizard wrote:
Sid went missing years ago, everybody was looking for him, I think Sue has gone off and joined him, LOL.
I cant be sure but I think I saw Sue in the Town End on Tuesday. What is the reward anyway ?
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: Sid went missing years ago, everybody was looking for him, I think Sue has gone off and joined him, LOL.[/p][/quote]I cant be sure but I think I saw Sue in the Town End on Tuesday. What is the reward anyway ? umpcah

11:12am Sun 25 Nov 12

Oi Den! says...

jayden wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
"... no more than hit and hope"
Den how are you? Iwas looking for you on tues night but their are so many that fit your description i took a punt and asked one but he just said ill be anyone you want to be ducky .Are you going to the youth game?
Morning jayden, I'm well, thanks. Hope same goes for you. Glad to hear you got lucky! Doubt if I'll go to the youth game, although haven't ruled it out completely. I'm sure we'll get the chance to have a chat sometime soon.
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: "... no more than hit and hope"[/p][/quote]Den how are you? Iwas looking for you on tues night but their are so many that fit your description i took a punt and asked one but he just said ill be anyone you want to be ducky .Are you going to the youth game?[/p][/quote]Morning jayden, I'm well, thanks. Hope same goes for you. Glad to hear you got lucky! Doubt if I'll go to the youth game, although haven't ruled it out completely. I'm sure we'll get the chance to have a chat sometime soon. Oi Den!

11:17am Sun 25 Nov 12

Steve. Brentford says...

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
Steve. Brentford wrote:
DarrenSTFCRomain wrote: We were very very unlucky 2day.. Plenty of chances but we come up against a goal keeper that was haveing the game of his life..
When i see you had predicted us to win today i just knew it wasn't going to be our day,not suggesting your jinx or anything...
Hello mate..The mad thing is,that i have predicted we win the last 2 games...
SO YES IT WAS MY FAULT...Happy now
Yeah well no more predicting us to win then please,it makes me have to much alcohol drowning my sorrows :O)
[quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: We were very very unlucky 2day.. Plenty of chances but we come up against a goal keeper that was haveing the game of his life..[/p][/quote]When i see you had predicted us to win today i just knew it wasn't going to be our day,not suggesting your jinx or anything...[/p][/quote]Hello mate..The mad thing is,that i have predicted we win the last 2 games... SO YES IT WAS MY FAULT...Happy now[/p][/quote]Yeah well no more predicting us to win then please,it makes me have to much alcohol drowning my sorrows :O) Steve. Brentford

11:21am Sun 25 Nov 12

Malkym says...

Den all I can say is that the players simply are not doing their job particularly the strikers -it seems they had plenty of service yesterday yet they contrived to miss gilt edged chances once again. OK their keeper had a blinder and we hit the post. I wasn't there either so it'd be good to hear from someone who went as to how WC performed overall. Collins was once again pulled off so what does that suggest - that he wasn't cutting it perhaps? OK there's been an argument that Williams just back from injury might have been the one to sub but PdC obviously felt W more likely to score than C.

Surely on paper we've got potentially as good a side as most other leading clubs but their players have more guile than ours -perhaps because of more experience at this level?
Den all I can say is that the players simply are not doing their job particularly the strikers -it seems they had plenty of service yesterday yet they contrived to miss gilt edged chances once again. OK their keeper had a blinder and we hit the post. I wasn't there either so it'd be good to hear from someone who went as to how WC performed overall. Collins was once again pulled off so what does that suggest - that he wasn't cutting it perhaps? OK there's been an argument that Williams just back from injury might have been the one to sub but PdC obviously felt W more likely to score than C. Surely on paper we've got potentially as good a side as most other leading clubs but their players have more guile than ours -perhaps because of more experience at this level? Malkym

11:28am Sun 25 Nov 12

robstfc says...

Malkym wrote:
Den all I can say is that the players simply are not doing their job particularly the strikers -it seems they had plenty of service yesterday yet they contrived to miss gilt edged chances once again. OK their keeper had a blinder and we hit the post. I wasn't there either so it'd be good to hear from someone who went as to how WC performed overall. Collins was once again pulled off so what does that suggest - that he wasn't cutting it perhaps? OK there's been an argument that Williams just back from injury might have been the one to sub but PdC obviously felt W more likely to score than C.

Surely on paper we've got potentially as good a side as most other leading clubs but their players have more guile than ours -perhaps because of more experience at this level?
That's the problem we've got a great team on paper..... Unfortunately a cr*p one on grass.....
[quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: Den all I can say is that the players simply are not doing their job particularly the strikers -it seems they had plenty of service yesterday yet they contrived to miss gilt edged chances once again. OK their keeper had a blinder and we hit the post. I wasn't there either so it'd be good to hear from someone who went as to how WC performed overall. Collins was once again pulled off so what does that suggest - that he wasn't cutting it perhaps? OK there's been an argument that Williams just back from injury might have been the one to sub but PdC obviously felt W more likely to score than C. Surely on paper we've got potentially as good a side as most other leading clubs but their players have more guile than ours -perhaps because of more experience at this level?[/p][/quote]That's the problem we've got a great team on paper..... Unfortunately a cr*p one on grass..... robstfc

11:29am Sun 25 Nov 12

Haydonender says...

Think we are having to learn some harsh lessons about the top 6/8 teams in this league. Tuesday and yesterday we deserved something from both games but came away with nothing. Any mistake is being pounced on and we are not taking our chances. Hopefully the players and staff will learn these lessons though and improve.

One thing I would say, and I'm generally a supporter of PDC, is that we are far too predictable currently. Opponents must know we are going to play 4-4-2 and we play the same way each game. As soon as we saw the teams yesterday I said to my mate that the substitutions would be Martin for Collins, Hollands for Bostock and Roberts for RDV and thats without knowing if we were going to be winning or losing at the time. Where have the other formations Paolo was talking about at the start of the season gone?
Think we are having to learn some harsh lessons about the top 6/8 teams in this league. Tuesday and yesterday we deserved something from both games but came away with nothing. Any mistake is being pounced on and we are not taking our chances. Hopefully the players and staff will learn these lessons though and improve. One thing I would say, and I'm generally a supporter of PDC, is that we are far too predictable currently. Opponents must know we are going to play 4-4-2 and we play the same way each game. As soon as we saw the teams yesterday I said to my mate that the substitutions would be Martin for Collins, Hollands for Bostock and Roberts for RDV and thats without knowing if we were going to be winning or losing at the time. Where have the other formations Paolo was talking about at the start of the season gone? Haydonender

11:36am Sun 25 Nov 12

the wizard says...

I must admit to being very surprised with some of the comments here, but then again I can see some of the justification. It seems that the euphoria of last season is now long forgotten as has the teams performance. The "lets go and get 'em" attitude has long since disappeared and we are now but a shadow of what we were at the start of the season, and now that has gone I hope it is not forever lost.
Several things have been key to where we are now. The late arrival of four players seemed to upset things considerably, and that was followed by injuries and then the Embargo episode and then finally Wrays replacement. We all know that the manager and the man that brought him here have become more than just good friends, and does our manager now bear a grudge with Black for replacing Wray. The embargo was one of those things that happened more through being nieve than much else, and the injuries, well they happen in football and most if not all other sports. We are now out of the embargo, the injuries should all be sorted by our next game, so it leaves "bearing a grudge", very very very childish if that is at the root of the problem. Lets see what the Doncaster game brings as well as a determined opposition, after all, we now have two weeks to put things right,lets hope we do.
I must admit to being very surprised with some of the comments here, but then again I can see some of the justification. It seems that the euphoria of last season is now long forgotten as has the teams performance. The "lets go and get 'em" attitude has long since disappeared and we are now but a shadow of what we were at the start of the season, and now that has gone I hope it is not forever lost. Several things have been key to where we are now. The late arrival of four players seemed to upset things considerably, and that was followed by injuries and then the Embargo episode and then finally Wrays replacement. We all know that the manager and the man that brought him here have become more than just good friends, and does our manager now bear a grudge with Black for replacing Wray. The embargo was one of those things that happened more through being nieve than much else, and the injuries, well they happen in football and most if not all other sports. We are now out of the embargo, the injuries should all be sorted by our next game, so it leaves "bearing a grudge", very very very childish if that is at the root of the problem. Lets see what the Doncaster game brings as well as a determined opposition, after all, we now have two weeks to put things right,lets hope we do. the wizard

11:43am Sun 25 Nov 12

Oi Den! says...

Malkym wrote:
Den all I can say is that the players simply are not doing their job particularly the strikers -it seems they had plenty of service yesterday yet they contrived to miss gilt edged chances once again. OK their keeper had a blinder and we hit the post. I wasn't there either so it'd be good to hear from someone who went as to how WC performed overall. Collins was once again pulled off so what does that suggest - that he wasn't cutting it perhaps? OK there's been an argument that Williams just back from injury might have been the one to sub but PdC obviously felt W more likely to score than C.

Surely on paper we've got potentially as good a side as most other leading clubs but their players have more guile than ours -perhaps because of more experience at this level?
We're going round in circles now, so I won't say much more. For me, the massively disappointing thing is the abandonment of football on the ground in favour of the lottery of the long high ball. If we had a Jimmy Quinn and a Dave Bamber up front, I might have a different view, but I don't think any of our current strikers suits that game.
[quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: Den all I can say is that the players simply are not doing their job particularly the strikers -it seems they had plenty of service yesterday yet they contrived to miss gilt edged chances once again. OK their keeper had a blinder and we hit the post. I wasn't there either so it'd be good to hear from someone who went as to how WC performed overall. Collins was once again pulled off so what does that suggest - that he wasn't cutting it perhaps? OK there's been an argument that Williams just back from injury might have been the one to sub but PdC obviously felt W more likely to score than C. Surely on paper we've got potentially as good a side as most other leading clubs but their players have more guile than ours -perhaps because of more experience at this level?[/p][/quote]We're going round in circles now, so I won't say much more. For me, the massively disappointing thing is the abandonment of football on the ground in favour of the lottery of the long high ball. If we had a Jimmy Quinn and a Dave Bamber up front, I might have a different view, but I don't think any of our current strikers suits that game. Oi Den!

12:06pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Steve. Brentford says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Malkym wrote:
How can he get more out of his players than he is doing? It seems from what I heard today that we can several good chances including hitting the post and at least most efforts were on target and again according to the radio had a good percentage of the play up until the last 15mins or so. I'm not one to make excuses but the conditions weren't great but same for both sides. As with Brentford -first half at least we 've come up against a keeper on top form and you're right about guile but to me its the players that need to show that. Why's McCormack picking up so many bookings? Answer he's off the pace and therefore gets caught commiting fouls as a result.

I do think our playing style has been well sussed now and we are back to no plan B which is a worry and Pdc does need to try and work out a counter plan.
Malk, I'm certainly not trying to judge yesterday's performance, as I wasn't there.
.
I think it's just ridiculous that PDC has one of the most expensive squads in the division and yet he doesn't believe they are any better than a lower mid-table side. If he cannot get his players to achieve any more than that, either he has signed the wrong players or he is not getting the best out of them. Surely it has to be one or the other. Either way, he should stop telling us what a brilliant manager he is, Results will do that for him.
I agree Den,results will determine whether one will gain legendary status not words!

It could be that by telling all and sundry that we are not good enough to finish this season with any hope of promotion that some folk(payers on the door and so say glory hunters) may choose not to keep there hard earned cash in their sky rocket and look to next season before venturing out to the CG again.
Or could it be that if PDC says we are not good enough and then we do manage it,then he can claim eternal greatness with such an average set of (his)players.Whateve
r the reason i fail to see the point of constantly stating we will not get anything out of this season except for covering one`s arse.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: How can he get more out of his players than he is doing? It seems from what I heard today that we can several good chances including hitting the post and at least most efforts were on target and again according to the radio had a good percentage of the play up until the last 15mins or so. I'm not one to make excuses but the conditions weren't great but same for both sides. As with Brentford -first half at least we 've come up against a keeper on top form and you're right about guile but to me its the players that need to show that. Why's McCormack picking up so many bookings? Answer he's off the pace and therefore gets caught commiting fouls as a result. I do think our playing style has been well sussed now and we are back to no plan B which is a worry and Pdc does need to try and work out a counter plan.[/p][/quote]Malk, I'm certainly not trying to judge yesterday's performance, as I wasn't there. . I think it's just ridiculous that PDC has one of the most expensive squads in the division and yet he doesn't believe they are any better than a lower mid-table side. If he cannot get his players to achieve any more than that, either he has signed the wrong players or he is not getting the best out of them. Surely it has to be one or the other. Either way, he should stop telling us what a brilliant manager he is, Results will do that for him.[/p][/quote]I agree Den,results will determine whether one will gain legendary status not words! It could be that by telling all and sundry that we are not good enough to finish this season with any hope of promotion that some folk(payers on the door and so say glory hunters) may choose not to keep there hard earned cash in their sky rocket and look to next season before venturing out to the CG again. Or could it be that if PDC says we are not good enough and then we do manage it,then he can claim eternal greatness with such an average set of (his)players.Whateve r the reason i fail to see the point of constantly stating we will not get anything out of this season except for covering one`s arse. Steve. Brentford

12:16pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Steve. Brentford says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Malkym wrote:
How can he get more out of his players than he is doing? It seems from what I heard today that we can several good chances including hitting the post and at least most efforts were on target and again according to the radio had a good percentage of the play up until the last 15mins or so. I'm not one to make excuses but the conditions weren't great but same for both sides. As with Brentford -first half at least we 've come up against a keeper on top form and you're right about guile but to me its the players that need to show that. Why's McCormack picking up so many bookings? Answer he's off the pace and therefore gets caught commiting fouls as a result.

I do think our playing style has been well sussed now and we are back to no plan B which is a worry and Pdc does need to try and work out a counter plan.
Malk, I'm certainly not trying to judge yesterday's performance, as I wasn't there.
.
I think it's just ridiculous that PDC has one of the most expensive squads in the division and yet he doesn't believe they are any better than a lower mid-table side. If he cannot get his players to achieve any more than that, either he has signed the wrong players or he is not getting the best out of them. Surely it has to be one or the other. Either way, he should stop telling us what a brilliant manager he is, Results will do that for him.
I agree Den,results will determine whether one will gain legendary status not words!

It could be that by telling all and sundry that we are not good enough to finish this season with any hope of promotion that some folk(payers on the door and so say glory hunters) may choose not to keep there hard earned cash in their sky rocket and look to next season before venturing out to the CG again.
Or could it be that if PDC says we are not good enough and then we do manage it,then he can claim eternal greatness with such an average set of (his)players.Whateve

r the reason i fail to see the point of constantly stating we will not get anything out of this season except for covering one`s arse.
One "not" to many
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: How can he get more out of his players than he is doing? It seems from what I heard today that we can several good chances including hitting the post and at least most efforts were on target and again according to the radio had a good percentage of the play up until the last 15mins or so. I'm not one to make excuses but the conditions weren't great but same for both sides. As with Brentford -first half at least we 've come up against a keeper on top form and you're right about guile but to me its the players that need to show that. Why's McCormack picking up so many bookings? Answer he's off the pace and therefore gets caught commiting fouls as a result. I do think our playing style has been well sussed now and we are back to no plan B which is a worry and Pdc does need to try and work out a counter plan.[/p][/quote]Malk, I'm certainly not trying to judge yesterday's performance, as I wasn't there. . I think it's just ridiculous that PDC has one of the most expensive squads in the division and yet he doesn't believe they are any better than a lower mid-table side. If he cannot get his players to achieve any more than that, either he has signed the wrong players or he is not getting the best out of them. Surely it has to be one or the other. Either way, he should stop telling us what a brilliant manager he is, Results will do that for him.[/p][/quote]I agree Den,results will determine whether one will gain legendary status not words! It could be that by telling all and sundry that we are not good enough to finish this season with any hope of promotion that some folk(payers on the door and so say glory hunters) may choose not to keep there hard earned cash in their sky rocket and look to next season before venturing out to the CG again. Or could it be that if PDC says we are not good enough and then we do manage it,then he can claim eternal greatness with such an average set of (his)players.Whateve r the reason i fail to see the point of constantly stating we will not get anything out of this season except for covering one`s arse.[/p][/quote]One "not" to many Steve. Brentford

12:38pm Sun 25 Nov 12

smirg kcab says...

Sure I've just seen Paolo in Sutton scotney services
but sue wasn't with him
Onwards and upwards
Sure I've just seen Paolo in Sutton scotney services but sue wasn't with him Onwards and upwards smirg kcab

12:42pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Steve. Brentford says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Sure I've just seen Paolo in Sutton scotney services
but sue wasn't with him
Onwards and upwards
I heard she was in the Princess Royal last night with Jonathon Douglas........
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Sure I've just seen Paolo in Sutton scotney services but sue wasn't with him Onwards and upwards[/p][/quote]I heard she was in the Princess Royal last night with Jonathon Douglas........ Steve. Brentford

12:56pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Another view says...

Yesterday's result and most of the comments on here, especially from Wiz and Glassred, remind me of the TV advert of a few years ago. One my fellow countrymen adresses his management team with, "Wur doin well...but wur no doin great!!"

Maybe a lot of us, myself included, got too carried away by the Paolo express, and it would roll through the first division just as it did the second. I've got frustrated by the highs and lows of the last few weeks. But the calm measured comments on this latest post suggest that most fans accept that PDC and many of the players are still learning their trade.

If, and that's a big if, he allows a settled side to develop, then Williams and Collins will score. We have been spoiled by Cox and Austin, but the present two are more like Paynter - given the right service in a settled side they will do OK.

In the meantime I need to remind myself we are not Barcelona - not yet :-)
Yesterday's result and most of the comments on here, especially from Wiz and Glassred, remind me of the TV advert of a few years ago. One my fellow countrymen adresses his management team with, "Wur doin well...but wur no doin great!!" Maybe a lot of us, myself included, got too carried away by the Paolo express, and it would roll through the first division just as it did the second. I've got frustrated by the highs and lows of the last few weeks. But the calm measured comments on this latest post suggest that most fans accept that PDC and many of the players are still learning their trade. If, and that's a big if, he allows a settled side to develop, then Williams and Collins will score. We have been spoiled by Cox and Austin, but the present two are more like Paynter - given the right service in a settled side they will do OK. In the meantime I need to remind myself we are not Barcelona - not yet :-) Another view

1:05pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Davey Gravey says...

I dunno why I bother to read the comments from supporters on here. Just angers me when I do. Paints a poor picture of the clubs fans,with the knowledge shown you could fit in the back of a stamp. Mongs
I dunno why I bother to read the comments from supporters on here. Just angers me when I do. Paints a poor picture of the clubs fans,with the knowledge shown you could fit in the back of a stamp. Mongs Davey Gravey

1:12pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Oi Den! says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
I dunno why I bother to read the comments from supporters on here. Just angers me when I do. Paints a poor picture of the clubs fans,with the knowledge shown you could fit in the back of a stamp. Mongs
"Paints a poor picture of the club's fans?" I'd suggest it's not as poor as the picture painted by someone who has nothing constructive to say. Then again, perhaps your use of the word "mongs" tells us all we need to know.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: I dunno why I bother to read the comments from supporters on here. Just angers me when I do. Paints a poor picture of the clubs fans,with the knowledge shown you could fit in the back of a stamp. Mongs[/p][/quote]"Paints a poor picture of the club's fans?" I'd suggest it's not as poor as the picture painted by someone who has nothing constructive to say. Then again, perhaps your use of the word "mongs" tells us all we need to know. Oi Den!

1:13pm Sun 25 Nov 12

the wizard says...

Another view wrote:
Yesterday's result and most of the comments on here, especially from Wiz and Glassred, remind me of the TV advert of a few years ago. One my fellow countrymen adresses his management team with, "Wur doin well...but wur no doin great!!"

Maybe a lot of us, myself included, got too carried away by the Paolo express, and it would roll through the first division just as it did the second. I've got frustrated by the highs and lows of the last few weeks. But the calm measured comments on this latest post suggest that most fans accept that PDC and many of the players are still learning their trade.

If, and that's a big if, he allows a settled side to develop, then Williams and Collins will score. We have been spoiled by Cox and Austin, but the present two are more like Paynter - given the right service in a settled side they will do OK.

In the meantime I need to remind myself we are not Barcelona - not yet :-)
I do think we got spoiled last season by a brilliant team that got some superb results, and to be fair we were our managers new toy.

I still think we bottle needs a shake to get the fizz back.



Before signing off for a while I'd like to ask Grim if Sue's first name is Peggy ???? lol.
[quote][p][bold]Another view[/bold] wrote: Yesterday's result and most of the comments on here, especially from Wiz and Glassred, remind me of the TV advert of a few years ago. One my fellow countrymen adresses his management team with, "Wur doin well...but wur no doin great!!" Maybe a lot of us, myself included, got too carried away by the Paolo express, and it would roll through the first division just as it did the second. I've got frustrated by the highs and lows of the last few weeks. But the calm measured comments on this latest post suggest that most fans accept that PDC and many of the players are still learning their trade. If, and that's a big if, he allows a settled side to develop, then Williams and Collins will score. We have been spoiled by Cox and Austin, but the present two are more like Paynter - given the right service in a settled side they will do OK. In the meantime I need to remind myself we are not Barcelona - not yet :-)[/p][/quote]I do think we got spoiled last season by a brilliant team that got some superb results, and to be fair we were our managers new toy. I still think we bottle needs a shake to get the fizz back. Before signing off for a while I'd like to ask Grim if Sue's first name is Peggy ???? lol. the wizard

1:22pm Sun 25 Nov 12

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
Steve. Brentford wrote:
DarrenSTFCRomain wrote: We were very very unlucky 2day.. Plenty of chances but we come up against a goal keeper that was haveing the game of his life..
When i see you had predicted us to win today i just knew it wasn't going to be our day,not suggesting your jinx or anything...
Hello mate..The mad thing is,that i have predicted we win the last 2 games... SO YES IT WAS MY FAULT...Happy now
Yeah well no more predicting us to win then please,it makes me have to much alcohol drowning my sorrows :O)
Ok no more predicting us to win..
SORRY MY FAULT AGAIN MATE...

And sorry for giving you a hangover..
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: We were very very unlucky 2day.. Plenty of chances but we come up against a goal keeper that was haveing the game of his life..[/p][/quote]When i see you had predicted us to win today i just knew it wasn't going to be our day,not suggesting your jinx or anything...[/p][/quote]Hello mate..The mad thing is,that i have predicted we win the last 2 games... SO YES IT WAS MY FAULT...Happy now[/p][/quote]Yeah well no more predicting us to win then please,it makes me have to much alcohol drowning my sorrows :O)[/p][/quote]Ok no more predicting us to win.. SORRY MY FAULT AGAIN MATE... And sorry for giving you a hangover.. DarrenSTFCRomain

1:23pm Sun 25 Nov 12

smirg kcab says...

Another view wrote:
Yesterday's result and most of the comments on here, especially from Wiz and Glassred, remind me of the TV advert of a few years ago. One my fellow countrymen adresses his management team with, "Wur doin well...but wur no doin great!!"

Maybe a lot of us, myself included, got too carried away by the Paolo express, and it would roll through the first division just as it did the second. I've got frustrated by the highs and lows of the last few weeks. But the calm measured comments on this latest post suggest that most fans accept that PDC and many of the players are still learning their trade.

If, and that's a big if, he allows a settled side to develop, then Williams and Collins will score. We have been spoiled by Cox and Austin, but the present two are more like Paynter - given the right service in a settled side they will do OK.

In the meantime I need to remind myself we are not Barcelona - not yet :-)
You can't afford to have one Paynter let alone two FACT.
As for a settled side then the two wouldn't be in the squad FACT.
We are not Barcelona we are a team as the manager said a middle to bottom team.
He has come to terms we have two duff players upfront, and is impossible to replace them.
i wonder why Paolo was heading south on the A34? I'm still sure it was him, wonder if he is going to watch Pompey play today? I'm sure Brighton played yesterday.
Perhaps he's net sue and staying the night
Onwards and upwards
[quote][p][bold]Another view[/bold] wrote: Yesterday's result and most of the comments on here, especially from Wiz and Glassred, remind me of the TV advert of a few years ago. One my fellow countrymen adresses his management team with, "Wur doin well...but wur no doin great!!" Maybe a lot of us, myself included, got too carried away by the Paolo express, and it would roll through the first division just as it did the second. I've got frustrated by the highs and lows of the last few weeks. But the calm measured comments on this latest post suggest that most fans accept that PDC and many of the players are still learning their trade. If, and that's a big if, he allows a settled side to develop, then Williams and Collins will score. We have been spoiled by Cox and Austin, but the present two are more like Paynter - given the right service in a settled side they will do OK. In the meantime I need to remind myself we are not Barcelona - not yet :-)[/p][/quote]You can't afford to have one Paynter let alone two FACT. As for a settled side then the two wouldn't be in the squad FACT. We are not Barcelona we are a team as the manager said a middle to bottom team. He has come to terms we have two duff players upfront, and is impossible to replace them. i wonder why Paolo was heading south on the A34? I'm still sure it was him, wonder if he is going to watch Pompey play today? I'm sure Brighton played yesterday. Perhaps he's net sue and staying the night Onwards and upwards smirg kcab

1:40pm Sun 25 Nov 12

NORTH STAND says...

Your point is well made and shared by most fans Davey Gravey - but you will get short shrift from the multi id posters on here. The one thing to remember is that they are not fans... there's several that have been kicked out of the club under the new regime, a handful who have lost access to free tickets, a few wind up merchants from up the A420 and others who spend Saturday nights changing user names to hold conversations with themselves... Den is one of the few who a) attends games and b) has the foggiest what he's watching but he has a long standing aversion to calling a mong a mong... BTW yesterday's performance for those who went to ASDA instead was about the same as that at Stevenage but this time without the breaks. Don't be reluctant to post an opinion - otherwise people will think our fans really are as stupid as they appear on here...
Your point is well made and shared by most fans Davey Gravey - but you will get short shrift from the multi id posters on here. The one thing to remember is that they are not fans... there's several that have been kicked out of the club under the new regime, a handful who have lost access to free tickets, a few wind up merchants from up the A420 and others who spend Saturday nights changing user names to hold conversations with themselves... Den is one of the few who a) attends games and b) has the foggiest what he's watching but he has a long standing aversion to calling a mong a mong... BTW yesterday's performance for those who went to ASDA instead was about the same as that at Stevenage but this time without the breaks. Don't be reluctant to post an opinion - otherwise people will think our fans really are as stupid as they appear on here... NORTH STAND

2:06pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Singaporered says...

Interesting read in the local paper today from Paul Parker, former Man Utd defender. He writes:

"He has to get his team going - a team that want to play for him with consistency. There are too many unhappy players at the club and the Italian needs to solve that problem for them to move forward. For a start, he needs to change his personality a bit, smile more and stop publically putting down his players. He looks like he's constantly berating his players on the touchline when he's waving his arms around. It looks derogatory and very disrespectful because that will infuriate a lot of experienced players. Such matters should be settled behind closed doors during half-time or after the game because such gestures, which are caught on camera all the time, make players feel stupid.
None of the players play with a smile on their faces any more and he needs to cut out those antics if he wants his players to enjoy playing for him."

So we now know what Parker feels about Paolo! Well actually we don't - because the article was about Roberto Mancini! Must be an Italian thing I suppose.
Interesting read in the local paper today from Paul Parker, former Man Utd defender. He writes: "He has to get his team going - a team that want to play for him with consistency. There are too many unhappy players at the club and the Italian needs to solve that problem for them to move forward. For a start, he needs to change his personality a bit, smile more and stop publically putting down his players. He looks like he's constantly berating his players on the touchline when he's waving his arms around. It looks derogatory and very disrespectful because that will infuriate a lot of experienced players. Such matters should be settled behind closed doors during half-time or after the game because such gestures, which are caught on camera all the time, make players feel stupid. None of the players play with a smile on their faces any more and he needs to cut out those antics if he wants his players to enjoy playing for him." So we now know what Parker feels about Paolo! Well actually we don't - because the article was about Roberto Mancini! Must be an Italian thing I suppose. Singaporered

2:13pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Oi Den! says...

NS, it wasn't possible to work out what his opinion was, as the post was no more than simple abuse. Is he a "moaner" or a "wearer of rose-tinted specs"? And what's all this fantasy about multiple IDs and people have been thrown out of the club? How does a fan get thrown out of the club? Or are you now telling us that people on here are disaffected ex employees of STFC? Seems your imagination is working overtime!
NS, it wasn't possible to work out what his opinion was, as the post was no more than simple abuse. Is he a "moaner" or a "wearer of rose-tinted specs"? And what's all this fantasy about multiple IDs and people have been thrown out of the club? How does a fan get thrown out of the club? Or are you now telling us that people on here are disaffected ex employees of STFC? Seems your imagination is working overtime! Oi Den!

2:23pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Davey Gravey says...

Can't reason with idiots, and I have no intention of trying to. But I will highlight that we are not all as clueless as the majority who infect this site. Empty cans make the most noise
Can't reason with idiots, and I have no intention of trying to. But I will highlight that we are not all as clueless as the majority who infect this site. Empty cans make the most noise Davey Gravey

2:32pm Sun 25 Nov 12

the don69 says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
Sure I've just seen Paolo in Sutton scotney services
but sue wasn't with him
Onwards and upwards
I heard she was in the Princess Royal last night with Jonathon Douglas........
I heard she was in Burnley visiting a goalscorer!more worried about our goalscorer's who are still missing!LOL!!!!!!!!!
!
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Sure I've just seen Paolo in Sutton scotney services but sue wasn't with him Onwards and upwards[/p][/quote]I heard she was in the Princess Royal last night with Jonathon Douglas........[/p][/quote]I heard she was in Burnley visiting a goalscorer!more worried about our goalscorer's who are still missing!LOL!!!!!!!!! ! the don69

3:08pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Another view says...

Oi Den! says...
2:13pm Sun 25 Nov 12
NS, it wasn't possible to work out what his opinion was, as the post was no more than simple abuse. Is he a "moaner" or a "wearer of rose-tinted specs"? And what's all this fantasy about multiple IDs and people have been thrown out of the club? How does a fan get thrown out of the club? Or are you now telling us that people on here are disaffected ex employees of STFC? Seems your imagination is working overtime!"

- Den, maybe Davey Gravey is North Stand :-) Strange thing is North Stand makes a lot of sense when actually talks football.
Oi Den! says... 2:13pm Sun 25 Nov 12 NS, it wasn't possible to work out what his opinion was, as the post was no more than simple abuse. Is he a "moaner" or a "wearer of rose-tinted specs"? And what's all this fantasy about multiple IDs and people have been thrown out of the club? How does a fan get thrown out of the club? Or are you now telling us that people on here are disaffected ex employees of STFC? Seems your imagination is working overtime!" - Den, maybe Davey Gravey is North Stand :-) Strange thing is North Stand makes a lot of sense when actually talks football. Another view

4:18pm Sun 25 Nov 12

sagadude says...

1. Wray had to go because he was letting Paulo spend too much on crap.

2. PDC is clearly over rated, as compared to say the likes of Uwe Rosler.

3.STFC fans are looking through rosé tinted glasses.

4. The players don't really like PDC or his hard training and methods.

5. Other clubs in this division have more seasoned old hands and proven goal scorers.

6. Unless there is change and soon, our season is over.
1. Wray had to go because he was letting Paulo spend too much on crap. 2. PDC is clearly over rated, as compared to say the likes of Uwe Rosler. 3.STFC fans are looking through rosé tinted glasses. 4. The players don't really like PDC or his hard training and methods. 5. Other clubs in this division have more seasoned old hands and proven goal scorers. 6. Unless there is change and soon, our season is over. sagadude

4:37pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Malkym says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Can't reason with idiots, and I have no intention of trying to. But I will highlight that we are not all as clueless as the majority who infect this site. Empty cans make the most noise
Sorry Davey Gravey & NS -didn't realise that this wasn't a public forum open to everybody to express their own views and opinions and is in fact a private site open only to an arrogant insulting duo who actually contribute nothing to the debate by just posting abuse.


DG you are certainly right that we are not all clueless, because reassuringly most are able to put up a post that doesn't include words like "mong" & "infect this site". The former is a disgraceful analogy with people who through no fault of their own suffer from a genetic disorder (in case you didn't know and were merely copying your peers) and the second phrase was frankly was just laughable.As to not being able to reason with idiots may I politely suggest you refrain from any form of self analysis.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Can't reason with idiots, and I have no intention of trying to. But I will highlight that we are not all as clueless as the majority who infect this site. Empty cans make the most noise[/p][/quote]Sorry Davey Gravey & NS -didn't realise that this wasn't a public forum open to everybody to express their own views and opinions and is in fact a private site open only to an arrogant insulting duo who actually contribute nothing to the debate by just posting abuse. DG you are certainly right that we are not all clueless, because reassuringly most are able to put up a post that doesn't include words like "mong" & "infect this site". The former is a disgraceful analogy with people who through no fault of their own suffer from a genetic disorder (in case you didn't know and were merely copying your peers) and the second phrase was frankly was just laughable.As to not being able to reason with idiots may I politely suggest you refrain from any form of self analysis. Malkym

4:44pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Malkym says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Another view wrote: Yesterday's result and most of the comments on here, especially from Wiz and Glassred, remind me of the TV advert of a few years ago. One my fellow countrymen adresses his management team with, "Wur doin well...but wur no doin great!!" Maybe a lot of us, myself included, got too carried away by the Paolo express, and it would roll through the first division just as it did the second. I've got frustrated by the highs and lows of the last few weeks. But the calm measured comments on this latest post suggest that most fans accept that PDC and many of the players are still learning their trade. If, and that's a big if, he allows a settled side to develop, then Williams and Collins will score. We have been spoiled by Cox and Austin, but the present two are more like Paynter - given the right service in a settled side they will do OK. In the meantime I need to remind myself we are not Barcelona - not yet :-)
You can't afford to have one Paynter let alone two FACT. As for a settled side then the two wouldn't be in the squad FACT. We are not Barcelona we are a team as the manager said a middle to bottom team. He has come to terms we have two duff players upfront, and is impossible to replace them. i wonder why Paolo was heading south on the A34? I'm still sure it was him, wonder if he is going to watch Pompey play today? I'm sure Brighton played yesterday. Perhaps he's net sue and staying the night Onwards and upwards
Grim, as always you sum up the situation in your own inimitable style and why was PdC heading south on the A34? How about visiting his daughter who's at Soton Uni?
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Another view[/bold] wrote: Yesterday's result and most of the comments on here, especially from Wiz and Glassred, remind me of the TV advert of a few years ago. One my fellow countrymen adresses his management team with, "Wur doin well...but wur no doin great!!" Maybe a lot of us, myself included, got too carried away by the Paolo express, and it would roll through the first division just as it did the second. I've got frustrated by the highs and lows of the last few weeks. But the calm measured comments on this latest post suggest that most fans accept that PDC and many of the players are still learning their trade. If, and that's a big if, he allows a settled side to develop, then Williams and Collins will score. We have been spoiled by Cox and Austin, but the present two are more like Paynter - given the right service in a settled side they will do OK. In the meantime I need to remind myself we are not Barcelona - not yet :-)[/p][/quote]You can't afford to have one Paynter let alone two FACT. As for a settled side then the two wouldn't be in the squad FACT. We are not Barcelona we are a team as the manager said a middle to bottom team. He has come to terms we have two duff players upfront, and is impossible to replace them. i wonder why Paolo was heading south on the A34? I'm still sure it was him, wonder if he is going to watch Pompey play today? I'm sure Brighton played yesterday. Perhaps he's net sue and staying the night Onwards and upwards[/p][/quote]Grim, as always you sum up the situation in your own inimitable style and why was PdC heading south on the A34? How about visiting his daughter who's at Soton Uni? Malkym

5:23pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Davey Gravey says...

Malkym wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Can't reason with idiots, and I have no intention of trying to. But I will highlight that we are not all as clueless as the majority who infect this site. Empty cans make the most noise
Sorry Davey Gravey & NS -didn't realise that this wasn't a public forum open to everybody to express their own views and opinions and is in fact a private site open only to an arrogant insulting duo who actually contribute nothing to the debate by just posting abuse.


DG you are certainly right that we are not all clueless, because reassuringly most are able to put up a post that doesn't include words like "mong" & "infect this site". The former is a disgraceful analogy with people who through no fault of their own suffer from a genetic disorder (in case you didn't know and were merely copying your peers) and the second phrase was frankly was just laughable.As to not being able to reason with idiots may I politely suggest you refrain from any form of self analysis.
Just to clarify, I didn't use the word mong for the reasons you state. It had nothing to do with any human condition.if you can't see that the majority of comments are ridiculous, infect the site and also are frowned apon by club staff past and present along with many fans of stfc then that is your problem. Decent people avoid this site due to those who hog its pages spouting ill infomed drivel .
[quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Can't reason with idiots, and I have no intention of trying to. But I will highlight that we are not all as clueless as the majority who infect this site. Empty cans make the most noise[/p][/quote]Sorry Davey Gravey & NS -didn't realise that this wasn't a public forum open to everybody to express their own views and opinions and is in fact a private site open only to an arrogant insulting duo who actually contribute nothing to the debate by just posting abuse. DG you are certainly right that we are not all clueless, because reassuringly most are able to put up a post that doesn't include words like "mong" & "infect this site". The former is a disgraceful analogy with people who through no fault of their own suffer from a genetic disorder (in case you didn't know and were merely copying your peers) and the second phrase was frankly was just laughable.As to not being able to reason with idiots may I politely suggest you refrain from any form of self analysis.[/p][/quote]Just to clarify, I didn't use the word mong for the reasons you state. It had nothing to do with any human condition.if you can't see that the majority of comments are ridiculous, infect the site and also are frowned apon by club staff past and present along with many fans of stfc then that is your problem. Decent people avoid this site due to those who hog its pages spouting ill infomed drivel . Davey Gravey

6:16pm Sun 25 Nov 12

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Malkym wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote: Can't reason with idiots, and I have no intention of trying to. But I will highlight that we are not all as clueless as the majority who infect this site. Empty cans make the most noise
Sorry Davey Gravey & NS -didn't realise that this wasn't a public forum open to everybody to express their own views and opinions and is in fact a private site open only to an arrogant insulting duo who actually contribute nothing to the debate by just posting abuse. DG you are certainly right that we are not all clueless, because reassuringly most are able to put up a post that doesn't include words like "mong" & "infect this site". The former is a disgraceful analogy with people who through no fault of their own suffer from a genetic disorder (in case you didn't know and were merely copying your peers) and the second phrase was frankly was just laughable.As to not being able to reason with idiots may I politely suggest you refrain from any form of self analysis.
Just to clarify, I didn't use the word mong for the reasons you state. It had nothing to do with any human condition.if you can't see that the majority of comments are ridiculous, infect the site and also are frowned apon by club staff past and present along with many fans of stfc then that is your problem. Decent people avoid this site due to those who hog its pages spouting ill infomed drivel .
Why are the comments ridiculous...
ITS A FORUM..
Other people have different views..WHATS WRONG WITH THAT...
Other people have views on the fact that we are not doing well at the moment..
Others have views on the true fact of STFC only getting 15 points from the last 33...
BUT if you think that there wrong to have a say as a paying customer then your wrong
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Can't reason with idiots, and I have no intention of trying to. But I will highlight that we are not all as clueless as the majority who infect this site. Empty cans make the most noise[/p][/quote]Sorry Davey Gravey & NS -didn't realise that this wasn't a public forum open to everybody to express their own views and opinions and is in fact a private site open only to an arrogant insulting duo who actually contribute nothing to the debate by just posting abuse. DG you are certainly right that we are not all clueless, because reassuringly most are able to put up a post that doesn't include words like "mong" & "infect this site". The former is a disgraceful analogy with people who through no fault of their own suffer from a genetic disorder (in case you didn't know and were merely copying your peers) and the second phrase was frankly was just laughable.As to not being able to reason with idiots may I politely suggest you refrain from any form of self analysis.[/p][/quote]Just to clarify, I didn't use the word mong for the reasons you state. It had nothing to do with any human condition.if you can't see that the majority of comments are ridiculous, infect the site and also are frowned apon by club staff past and present along with many fans of stfc then that is your problem. Decent people avoid this site due to those who hog its pages spouting ill infomed drivel .[/p][/quote]Why are the comments ridiculous... ITS A FORUM.. Other people have different views..WHATS WRONG WITH THAT... Other people have views on the fact that we are not doing well at the moment.. Others have views on the true fact of STFC only getting 15 points from the last 33... BUT if you think that there wrong to have a say as a paying customer then your wrong DarrenSTFCRomain

6:23pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Oi Den! says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Malkym wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Can't reason with idiots, and I have no intention of trying to. But I will highlight that we are not all as clueless as the majority who infect this site. Empty cans make the most noise
Sorry Davey Gravey & NS -didn't realise that this wasn't a public forum open to everybody to express their own views and opinions and is in fact a private site open only to an arrogant insulting duo who actually contribute nothing to the debate by just posting abuse.


DG you are certainly right that we are not all clueless, because reassuringly most are able to put up a post that doesn't include words like "mong" & "infect this site". The former is a disgraceful analogy with people who through no fault of their own suffer from a genetic disorder (in case you didn't know and were merely copying your peers) and the second phrase was frankly was just laughable.As to not being able to reason with idiots may I politely suggest you refrain from any form of self analysis.
Just to clarify, I didn't use the word mong for the reasons you state. It had nothing to do with any human condition.if you can't see that the majority of comments are ridiculous, infect the site and also are frowned apon by club staff past and present along with many fans of stfc then that is your problem. Decent people avoid this site due to those who hog its pages spouting ill infomed drivel .
"... the majority of comments are ridiculous." You still haven't said what you are talking about. And since when has there been a requirement to be "informed" in order to be able to discuss football? What people talk about on here is what they see on the pitch. How much more information do you need for a discussion on performance and/or the style of play? All you seem to want is the silencing of any opinion that differs from yours - and you don't even say what that is. As for comments on here being frowned upon by the club, the only indication I've heard from the club was Sir William Patey saying he was impressed with the standard of debate. But no doubt you have better information than that.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Can't reason with idiots, and I have no intention of trying to. But I will highlight that we are not all as clueless as the majority who infect this site. Empty cans make the most noise[/p][/quote]Sorry Davey Gravey & NS -didn't realise that this wasn't a public forum open to everybody to express their own views and opinions and is in fact a private site open only to an arrogant insulting duo who actually contribute nothing to the debate by just posting abuse. DG you are certainly right that we are not all clueless, because reassuringly most are able to put up a post that doesn't include words like "mong" & "infect this site". The former is a disgraceful analogy with people who through no fault of their own suffer from a genetic disorder (in case you didn't know and were merely copying your peers) and the second phrase was frankly was just laughable.As to not being able to reason with idiots may I politely suggest you refrain from any form of self analysis.[/p][/quote]Just to clarify, I didn't use the word mong for the reasons you state. It had nothing to do with any human condition.if you can't see that the majority of comments are ridiculous, infect the site and also are frowned apon by club staff past and present along with many fans of stfc then that is your problem. Decent people avoid this site due to those who hog its pages spouting ill infomed drivel .[/p][/quote]"... the majority of comments are ridiculous." You still haven't said what you are talking about. And since when has there been a requirement to be "informed" in order to be able to discuss football? What people talk about on here is what they see on the pitch. How much more information do you need for a discussion on performance and/or the style of play? All you seem to want is the silencing of any opinion that differs from yours - and you don't even say what that is. As for comments on here being frowned upon by the club, the only indication I've heard from the club was Sir William Patey saying he was impressed with the standard of debate. But no doubt you have better information than that. Oi Den!

6:39pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Malkym says...

DG by your very use of the word you have by definition albeit inadvertently perhaps insulted anyone who suffers from Downs syndrome.

As to your comment:- "if you can't see that the majority of comments are ridiculous, infect the site and also are frowned apon by club staff past and present along with many fans of stfc then that is your problem" - you like everyone else on this site hide behind a nom de plume and make alleged statements of fact from your standpoint. How do you know that these forum comments are frowned upon by club staff past and present? Time to "put up or shut up" as the saying goes and reveal your sources is it not?

What arrogance you display -"Decent people etc"... so there are no decent posters then? I can assure you from the few who I do know personally that they are all thoroughly decent people and I'm in no doubt that the vast majority of those I do not know are thoroughly decent folk too. Of course there are bad apples in any barrel and trust me making remarks such as you've done will quickly leave others to form an opinion that you are in fact perhaps one of those apples.

If you have "insider" knowledge why not enlighten us all which just might lead to less of the "ill informed drivel" being spouted as you so eloquently put it.
DG by your very use of the word you have by definition albeit inadvertently perhaps insulted anyone who suffers from Downs syndrome. As to your comment:- "if you can't see that the majority of comments are ridiculous, infect the site and also are frowned apon by club staff past and present along with many fans of stfc then that is your problem" - you like everyone else on this site hide behind a nom de plume and make alleged statements of fact from your standpoint. How do you know that these forum comments are frowned upon by club staff past and present? Time to "put up or shut up" as the saying goes and reveal your sources is it not? What arrogance you display -"Decent people etc"... so there are no decent posters then? I can assure you from the few who I do know personally that they are all thoroughly decent people and I'm in no doubt that the vast majority of those I do not know are thoroughly decent folk too. Of course there are bad apples in any barrel and trust me making remarks such as you've done will quickly leave others to form an opinion that you are in fact perhaps one of those apples. If you have "insider" knowledge why not enlighten us all which just might lead to less of the "ill informed drivel" being spouted as you so eloquently put it. Malkym

6:41pm Sun 25 Nov 12

forzaswindon12 says...

if we'd managed to have got a 1-1 draw against both brentford and notts which would have been deserved we'd be sitting pretty in 5th spot with both those sides behind us. I feel we're under pressure now to win to make up for those losses.
if we'd managed to have got a 1-1 draw against both brentford and notts which would have been deserved we'd be sitting pretty in 5th spot with both those sides behind us. I feel we're under pressure now to win to make up for those losses. forzaswindon12

6:49pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Malkym says...

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Malkym wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote: Can't reason with idiots, and I have no intention of trying to. But I will highlight that we are not all as clueless as the majority who infect this site. Empty cans make the most noise
Sorry Davey Gravey & NS -didn't realise that this wasn't a public forum open to everybody to express their own views and opinions and is in fact a private site open only to an arrogant insulting duo who actually contribute nothing to the debate by just posting abuse. DG you are certainly right that we are not all clueless, because reassuringly most are able to put up a post that doesn't include words like "mong" & "infect this site". The former is a disgraceful analogy with people who through no fault of their own suffer from a genetic disorder (in case you didn't know and were merely copying your peers) and the second phrase was frankly was just laughable.As to not being able to reason with idiots may I politely suggest you refrain from any form of self analysis.
Just to clarify, I didn't use the word mong for the reasons you state. It had nothing to do with any human condition.if you can't see that the majority of comments are ridiculous, infect the site and also are frowned apon by club staff past and present along with many fans of stfc then that is your problem. Decent people avoid this site due to those who hog its pages spouting ill infomed drivel .
Why are the comments ridiculous... ITS A FORUM.. Other people have different views..WHATS WRONG WITH THAT... Other people have views on the fact that we are not doing well at the moment.. Others have views on the true fact of STFC only getting 15 points from the last 33... BUT if you think that there wrong to have a say as a paying customer then your wrong
Well done Darren good post and sums up most fellow posters views too I would think.
[quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Can't reason with idiots, and I have no intention of trying to. But I will highlight that we are not all as clueless as the majority who infect this site. Empty cans make the most noise[/p][/quote]Sorry Davey Gravey & NS -didn't realise that this wasn't a public forum open to everybody to express their own views and opinions and is in fact a private site open only to an arrogant insulting duo who actually contribute nothing to the debate by just posting abuse. DG you are certainly right that we are not all clueless, because reassuringly most are able to put up a post that doesn't include words like "mong" & "infect this site". The former is a disgraceful analogy with people who through no fault of their own suffer from a genetic disorder (in case you didn't know and were merely copying your peers) and the second phrase was frankly was just laughable.As to not being able to reason with idiots may I politely suggest you refrain from any form of self analysis.[/p][/quote]Just to clarify, I didn't use the word mong for the reasons you state. It had nothing to do with any human condition.if you can't see that the majority of comments are ridiculous, infect the site and also are frowned apon by club staff past and present along with many fans of stfc then that is your problem. Decent people avoid this site due to those who hog its pages spouting ill infomed drivel .[/p][/quote]Why are the comments ridiculous... ITS A FORUM.. Other people have different views..WHATS WRONG WITH THAT... Other people have views on the fact that we are not doing well at the moment.. Others have views on the true fact of STFC only getting 15 points from the last 33... BUT if you think that there wrong to have a say as a paying customer then your wrong[/p][/quote]Well done Darren good post and sums up most fellow posters views too I would think. Malkym

7:18pm Sun 25 Nov 12

southside7 says...

Malkym wrote:
DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Malkym wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote: Can't reason with idiots, and I have no intention of trying to. But I will highlight that we are not all as clueless as the majority who infect this site. Empty cans make the most noise
Sorry Davey Gravey & NS -didn't realise that this wasn't a public forum open to everybody to express their own views and opinions and is in fact a private site open only to an arrogant insulting duo who actually contribute nothing to the debate by just posting abuse. DG you are certainly right that we are not all clueless, because reassuringly most are able to put up a post that doesn't include words like "mong" & "infect this site". The former is a disgraceful analogy with people who through no fault of their own suffer from a genetic disorder (in case you didn't know and were merely copying your peers) and the second phrase was frankly was just laughable.As to not being able to reason with idiots may I politely suggest you refrain from any form of self analysis.
Just to clarify, I didn't use the word mong for the reasons you state. It had nothing to do with any human condition.if you can't see that the majority of comments are ridiculous, infect the site and also are frowned apon by club staff past and present along with many fans of stfc then that is your problem. Decent people avoid this site due to those who hog its pages spouting ill infomed drivel .
Why are the comments ridiculous... ITS A FORUM.. Other people have different views..WHATS WRONG WITH THAT... Other people have views on the fact that we are not doing well at the moment.. Others have views on the true fact of STFC only getting 15 points from the last 33... BUT if you think that there wrong to have a say as a paying customer then your wrong
Well done Darren good post and sums up most fellow posters views too I would think.
DG, please can you state what 'your' opinion is of the current situation at our club? You haven't stated where 'your' coming from and would help to explain your comments.
[quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Can't reason with idiots, and I have no intention of trying to. But I will highlight that we are not all as clueless as the majority who infect this site. Empty cans make the most noise[/p][/quote]Sorry Davey Gravey & NS -didn't realise that this wasn't a public forum open to everybody to express their own views and opinions and is in fact a private site open only to an arrogant insulting duo who actually contribute nothing to the debate by just posting abuse. DG you are certainly right that we are not all clueless, because reassuringly most are able to put up a post that doesn't include words like "mong" & "infect this site". The former is a disgraceful analogy with people who through no fault of their own suffer from a genetic disorder (in case you didn't know and were merely copying your peers) and the second phrase was frankly was just laughable.As to not being able to reason with idiots may I politely suggest you refrain from any form of self analysis.[/p][/quote]Just to clarify, I didn't use the word mong for the reasons you state. It had nothing to do with any human condition.if you can't see that the majority of comments are ridiculous, infect the site and also are frowned apon by club staff past and present along with many fans of stfc then that is your problem. Decent people avoid this site due to those who hog its pages spouting ill infomed drivel .[/p][/quote]Why are the comments ridiculous... ITS A FORUM.. Other people have different views..WHATS WRONG WITH THAT... Other people have views on the fact that we are not doing well at the moment.. Others have views on the true fact of STFC only getting 15 points from the last 33... BUT if you think that there wrong to have a say as a paying customer then your wrong[/p][/quote]Well done Darren good post and sums up most fellow posters views too I would think.[/p][/quote]DG, please can you state what 'your' opinion is of the current situation at our club? You haven't stated where 'your' coming from and would help to explain your comments. southside7

7:20pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Ollie Reed's Parky dance! says...

I feel we have reached a crossroads in our season. The next two games will shape where we will end up this season I.e midtable or playoffs. Feel a bit fly but 2 weeks off should see Navarro and possibly Miller back plus the new boys Paolo fit!
I feel we have reached a crossroads in our season. The next two games will shape where we will end up this season I.e midtable or playoffs. Feel a bit fly but 2 weeks off should see Navarro and possibly Miller back plus the new boys Paolo fit! Ollie Reed's Parky dance!

7:31pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Davey Gravey says...

Malkym wrote:
DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Malkym wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote: Can't reason with idiots, and I have no intention of trying to. But I will highlight that we are not all as clueless as the majority who infect this site. Empty cans make the most noise
Sorry Davey Gravey & NS -didn't realise that this wasn't a public forum open to everybody to express their own views and opinions and is in fact a private site open only to an arrogant insulting duo who actually contribute nothing to the debate by just posting abuse. DG you are certainly right that we are not all clueless, because reassuringly most are able to put up a post that doesn't include words like "mong" & "infect this site". The former is a disgraceful analogy with people who through no fault of their own suffer from a genetic disorder (in case you didn't know and were merely copying your peers) and the second phrase was frankly was just laughable.As to not being able to reason with idiots may I politely suggest you refrain from any form of self analysis.
Just to clarify, I didn't use the word mong for the reasons you state. It had nothing to do with any human condition.if you can't see that the majority of comments are ridiculous, infect the site and also are frowned apon by club staff past and present along with many fans of stfc then that is your problem. Decent people avoid this site due to those who hog its pages spouting ill infomed drivel .
Why are the comments ridiculous... ITS A FORUM.. Other people have different views..WHATS WRONG WITH THAT... Other people have views on the fact that we are not doing well at the moment.. Others have views on the true fact of STFC only getting 15 points from the last 33... BUT if you think that there wrong to have a say as a paying customer then your wrong
Well done Darren good post and sums up most fellow posters views too I would think.
Well done for that? Good grief.
It's not a forum for starters. It is a facility to post comments not a forum at all. I have no issue with differing opinions but frankly some opinions are not worthy of reading,unfortunatel
y this site throws up alot that fall into that catagory in my opinion. So its a "fact" that we are not doing well then is it? Sitting in 6th position 4 points off 2nd place. Imagine the meltdown on here if we really were struggling. Their keeper was mom yesterday which says it all. Not all paying customers have any sort of clue what they are watching and then come on here and post rubbish. Its been going on for a few years now and paints a grim picture of the clubs supporters. It is a shame as there used to be a busy forum on this site which was good but went rapidly downhill and has not recovered since.
[quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: Can't reason with idiots, and I have no intention of trying to. But I will highlight that we are not all as clueless as the majority who infect this site. Empty cans make the most noise[/p][/quote]Sorry Davey Gravey & NS -didn't realise that this wasn't a public forum open to everybody to express their own views and opinions and is in fact a private site open only to an arrogant insulting duo who actually contribute nothing to the debate by just posting abuse. DG you are certainly right that we are not all clueless, because reassuringly most are able to put up a post that doesn't include words like "mong" & "infect this site". The former is a disgraceful analogy with people who through no fault of their own suffer from a genetic disorder (in case you didn't know and were merely copying your peers) and the second phrase was frankly was just laughable.As to not being able to reason with idiots may I politely suggest you refrain from any form of self analysis.[/p][/quote]Just to clarify, I didn't use the word mong for the reasons you state. It had nothing to do with any human condition.if you can't see that the majority of comments are ridiculous, infect the site and also are frowned apon by club staff past and present along with many fans of stfc then that is your problem. Decent people avoid this site due to those who hog its pages spouting ill infomed drivel .[/p][/quote]Why are the comments ridiculous... ITS A FORUM.. Other people have different views..WHATS WRONG WITH THAT... Other people have views on the fact that we are not doing well at the moment.. Others have views on the true fact of STFC only getting 15 points from the last 33... BUT if you think that there wrong to have a say as a paying customer then your wrong[/p][/quote]Well done Darren good post and sums up most fellow posters views too I would think.[/p][/quote]Well done for that? Good grief. It's not a forum for starters. It is a facility to post comments not a forum at all. I have no issue with differing opinions but frankly some opinions are not worthy of reading,unfortunatel y this site throws up alot that fall into that catagory in my opinion. So its a "fact" that we are not doing well then is it? Sitting in 6th position 4 points off 2nd place. Imagine the meltdown on here if we really were struggling. Their keeper was mom yesterday which says it all. Not all paying customers have any sort of clue what they are watching and then come on here and post rubbish. Its been going on for a few years now and paints a grim picture of the clubs supporters. It is a shame as there used to be a busy forum on this site which was good but went rapidly downhill and has not recovered since. Davey Gravey

7:38pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Davey Gravey says...

And before anyone says it I know we are 8th not 6th. I use my phone and didn't check prior to submitting. The point stands
And before anyone says it I know we are 8th not 6th. I use my phone and didn't check prior to submitting. The point stands Davey Gravey

7:42pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Chish and Fips says...

My word - DG you talk about starters and posters drivel..... hmm seems you fall into that category.

My advice to you is - if you don't like it, clear off and post your drivel elsewhere.

Your loss not ours - cheerie bye...
My word - DG you talk about starters and posters drivel..... hmm seems you fall into that category. My advice to you is - if you don't like it, clear off and post your drivel elsewhere. Your loss not ours - cheerie bye... Chish and Fips

7:46pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Oi Den! says...

I think you'd be hard pressed to find any supporter who's unhappy with the position we are in. But if it's pessimism and negative comment that bother you, you must be very brassed off with the manager at the moment.
I think you'd be hard pressed to find any supporter who's unhappy with the position we are in. But if it's pessimism and negative comment that bother you, you must be very brassed off with the manager at the moment. Oi Den!

7:49pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Malkym says...

DG for goodness sake make your mind up!

It's not a forum for starters OR

It is a shame as there used to be a busy forum on this site.

???!!!

Also I note you've conveniently ignored my question -> How do you know that these forum comments are frowned upon by club staff past and present? Time to "put up or shut up" as the saying goes and reveal your sources is it not?

So the answer is DG?
DG for goodness sake make your mind up! It's not a forum for starters OR It is a shame as there used to be a busy forum on this site. ???!!! Also I note you've conveniently ignored my question -> How do you know that these forum comments are frowned upon by club staff past and present? Time to "put up or shut up" as the saying goes and reveal your sources is it not? So the answer is DG? Malkym

8:01pm Sun 25 Nov 12

the don69 says...

Malkym wrote:
DG for goodness sake make your mind up!

It's not a forum for starters OR

It is a shame as there used to be a busy forum on this site.

???!!!

Also I note you've conveniently ignored my question -> How do you know that these forum comments are frowned upon by club staff past and present? Time to "put up or shut up" as the saying goes and reveal your sources is it not?

So the answer is DG?
He ain't got no answers Malky!just drivel if he don't like the site and posters,he knows what he can do and I'll just remind him!do one!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: DG for goodness sake make your mind up! It's not a forum for starters OR It is a shame as there used to be a busy forum on this site. ???!!! Also I note you've conveniently ignored my question -> How do you know that these forum comments are frowned upon by club staff past and present? Time to "put up or shut up" as the saying goes and reveal your sources is it not? So the answer is DG?[/p][/quote]He ain't got no answers Malky!just drivel if he don't like the site and posters,he knows what he can do and I'll just remind him!do one!!!!!!!!! the don69

8:01pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Davey Gravey says...

Malkym wrote:
DG for goodness sake make your mind up! It's not a forum for starters OR It is a shame as there used to be a busy forum on this site. ???!!! Also I note you've conveniently ignored my question -> How do you know that these forum comments are frowned upon by club staff past and present? Time to "put up or shut up" as the saying goes and reveal your sources is it not? So the answer is DG?
There was a forum which was seperate to comments on articles. So yeah it's not a forum in its current state. As for your question,its hardly secret information. Its all out there if you want to read it. I'm not doing for you. Now how about addressing the points I made in counter to Romains so called "facts" You agree with him so lets hear it.....
[quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: DG for goodness sake make your mind up! It's not a forum for starters OR It is a shame as there used to be a busy forum on this site. ???!!! Also I note you've conveniently ignored my question -> How do you know that these forum comments are frowned upon by club staff past and present? Time to "put up or shut up" as the saying goes and reveal your sources is it not? So the answer is DG?[/p][/quote]There was a forum which was seperate to comments on articles. So yeah it's not a forum in its current state. As for your question,its hardly secret information. Its all out there if you want to read it. I'm not doing for you. Now how about addressing the points I made in counter to Romains so called "facts" You agree with him so lets hear it..... Davey Gravey

8:03pm Sun 25 Nov 12

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

Taken myself off suicide watch. Firstly apologies to all, through my lucky red socks away a few weeks ago, the new ones have shown a very poor return. They won't been worn again on match day - our season will be saved!!

Now seriously I'm the dreamer on the site but have we just played another game where we've dominated play and created more chances? Yes it's becoming an ugly habit recently but that's the wonderful (or terrible) thing about the beautiful game. The best team doesn't always win every time.

We were ten points behind Crawley last year in mid January. Yes we are all frustrated but yes I'm still going to stick my neck out. We will win this league.

Paolo will prove all the doubters wrong. Still totally convinced of it. Ps Delighted we played our best midfield Saturday, long may it continue!
Taken myself off suicide watch. Firstly apologies to all, through my lucky red socks away a few weeks ago, the new ones have shown a very poor return. They won't been worn again on match day - our season will be saved!! Now seriously I'm the dreamer on the site but have we just played another game where we've dominated play and created more chances? Yes it's becoming an ugly habit recently but that's the wonderful (or terrible) thing about the beautiful game. The best team doesn't always win every time. We were ten points behind Crawley last year in mid January. Yes we are all frustrated but yes I'm still going to stick my neck out. We will win this league. Paolo will prove all the doubters wrong. Still totally convinced of it. Ps Delighted we played our best midfield Saturday, long may it continue! dreamofacleansheet2

8:21pm Sun 25 Nov 12

red white says...

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Taken myself off suicide watch. Firstly apologies to all, through my lucky red socks away a few weeks ago, the new ones have shown a very poor return. They won't been worn again on match day - our season will be saved!!

Now seriously I'm the dreamer on the site but have we just played another game where we've dominated play and created more chances? Yes it's becoming an ugly habit recently but that's the wonderful (or terrible) thing about the beautiful game. The best team doesn't always win every time.

We were ten points behind Crawley last year in mid January. Yes we are all frustrated but yes I'm still going to stick my neck out. We will win this league.

Paolo will prove all the doubters wrong. Still totally convinced of it. Ps Delighted we played our best midfield Saturday, long may it continue!
Thank you.

What a voice of reason.

Watch us go up,we are in a great position,ready to strike, that is how Paolo does it,

Do you think,think that he thinks we won't do it?

We will rock up,again.

Believe.

Ciao Ciao!
[quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: Taken myself off suicide watch. Firstly apologies to all, through my lucky red socks away a few weeks ago, the new ones have shown a very poor return. They won't been worn again on match day - our season will be saved!! Now seriously I'm the dreamer on the site but have we just played another game where we've dominated play and created more chances? Yes it's becoming an ugly habit recently but that's the wonderful (or terrible) thing about the beautiful game. The best team doesn't always win every time. We were ten points behind Crawley last year in mid January. Yes we are all frustrated but yes I'm still going to stick my neck out. We will win this league. Paolo will prove all the doubters wrong. Still totally convinced of it. Ps Delighted we played our best midfield Saturday, long may it continue![/p][/quote]Thank you. What a voice of reason. Watch us go up,we are in a great position,ready to strike, that is how Paolo does it, Do you think,think that he thinks we won't do it? We will rock up,again. Believe. Ciao Ciao! red white

8:40pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Wilesy says...

It does seem very negative on here, but then we have had a cople of defeats.

This season was never going to be a stroll in the park, as we are finding.

We are seeing teams playing with game plans (unlike last season), and some half decent players, eg Donaldson, being the difference.

There are teams with know how, eg MK Dons, Sheff Utd, that will obviously be there or thereabouts at the end of the season.

But anyine can beat anyone on the day I haven't seen a team yet that stand out as nailed on promotion certainties.

WIlliams will come good once fit I am sure.

Get the injured players back and playing I am sure results will pick up.

8th in the league and a great League Cup run, a decent start to the season.
It does seem very negative on here, but then we have had a cople of defeats. This season was never going to be a stroll in the park, as we are finding. We are seeing teams playing with game plans (unlike last season), and some half decent players, eg Donaldson, being the difference. There are teams with know how, eg MK Dons, Sheff Utd, that will obviously be there or thereabouts at the end of the season. But anyine can beat anyone on the day I haven't seen a team yet that stand out as nailed on promotion certainties. WIlliams will come good once fit I am sure. Get the injured players back and playing I am sure results will pick up. 8th in the league and a great League Cup run, a decent start to the season. Wilesy

8:53pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Malkym says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Malkym wrote: DG for goodness sake make your mind up! It's not a forum for starters OR It is a shame as there used to be a busy forum on this site. ???!!! Also I note you've conveniently ignored my question -> How do you know that these forum comments are frowned upon by club staff past and present? Time to "put up or shut up" as the saying goes and reveal your sources is it not? So the answer is DG?
There was a forum which was seperate to comments on articles. So yeah it's not a forum in its current state. As for your question,its hardly secret information. Its all out there if you want to read it. I'm not doing for you. Now how about addressing the points I made in counter to Romains so called "facts" You agree with him so lets hear it.....
Darren's post says it all - we all have different views - there are some - many perhaps who are not happy with the way the side is playing or the way it is being managed - I'm not dso concerned re the latter but the former is a worry - we are far from being in a dire postion but there are concerns that we are losing games by the odd goal because our strike force isn't potent enough -at the moment.

I think your comment - "its all out there go and find it I'm not telling you is a cop out - I cant be arsed to trawl through pages of the internet to find it -I don't recall any public or club expressions of disdain about these forums -perhaps you can point me in the right direction -that's if you're not talking total tosh to start with?

And as far as I can recall the Adver comments option have always followed an article and therefore a forum for readers to post their opinions on said article?
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: DG for goodness sake make your mind up! It's not a forum for starters OR It is a shame as there used to be a busy forum on this site. ???!!! Also I note you've conveniently ignored my question -> How do you know that these forum comments are frowned upon by club staff past and present? Time to "put up or shut up" as the saying goes and reveal your sources is it not? So the answer is DG?[/p][/quote]There was a forum which was seperate to comments on articles. So yeah it's not a forum in its current state. As for your question,its hardly secret information. Its all out there if you want to read it. I'm not doing for you. Now how about addressing the points I made in counter to Romains so called "facts" You agree with him so lets hear it.....[/p][/quote]Darren's post says it all - we all have different views - there are some - many perhaps who are not happy with the way the side is playing or the way it is being managed - I'm not dso concerned re the latter but the former is a worry - we are far from being in a dire postion but there are concerns that we are losing games by the odd goal because our strike force isn't potent enough -at the moment. I think your comment - "its all out there go and find it I'm not telling you is a cop out - I cant be arsed to trawl through pages of the internet to find it -I don't recall any public or club expressions of disdain about these forums -perhaps you can point me in the right direction -that's if you're not talking total tosh to start with? And as far as I can recall the Adver comments option have always followed an article and therefore a forum for readers to post their opinions on said article? Malkym

9:06pm Sun 25 Nov 12

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

Red White my pleasure.

For what it's worth I think Paolo firmly believes we will win the league but it is his form of psychology with the players. He's taking pressure off whilst trying to get them to fight to prove him wrong.

Then it will be mid February/early March bigging them up telling them they are brilliant. Then we win the league....

ps Threw threw threw threw, it's been a long few days.
Red White my pleasure. For what it's worth I think Paolo firmly believes we will win the league but it is his form of psychology with the players. He's taking pressure off whilst trying to get them to fight to prove him wrong. Then it will be mid February/early March bigging them up telling them they are brilliant. Then we win the league.... ps Threw threw threw threw, it's been a long few days. dreamofacleansheet2

9:07pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Davey Gravey says...

Malkym wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
Malkym wrote: DG for goodness sake make your mind up! It's not a forum for starters OR It is a shame as there used to be a busy forum on this site. ???!!! Also I note you've conveniently ignored my question -> How do you know that these forum comments are frowned upon by club staff past and present? Time to "put up or shut up" as the saying goes and reveal your sources is it not? So the answer is DG?
There was a forum which was seperate to comments on articles. So yeah it's not a forum in its current state. As for your question,its hardly secret information. Its all out there if you want to read it. I'm not doing for you. Now how about addressing the points I made in counter to Romains so called "facts" You agree with him so lets hear it.....
Darren's post says it all - we all have different views - there are some - many perhaps who are not happy with the way the side is playing or the way it is being managed - I'm not dso concerned re the latter but the former is a worry - we are far from being in a dire postion but there are concerns that we are losing games by the odd goal because our strike force isn't potent enough -at the moment.

I think your comment - "its all out there go and find it I'm not telling you is a cop out - I cant be arsed to trawl through pages of the internet to find it -I don't recall any public or club expressions of disdain about these forums -perhaps you can point me in the right direction -that's if you're not talking total tosh to start with?

And as far as I can recall the Adver comments option have always followed an article and therefore a forum for readers to post their opinions on said article?
You want me to provide evidence and I like you cannot be bothered to search for it. No cop out but you can think what you like. There was a forum with many members but it died out. A few years ago it was the busiest of the town forums. Most of the people from there ended up on the townend forum. In my opinion the only one now worth reading
[quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: DG for goodness sake make your mind up! It's not a forum for starters OR It is a shame as there used to be a busy forum on this site. ???!!! Also I note you've conveniently ignored my question -> How do you know that these forum comments are frowned upon by club staff past and present? Time to "put up or shut up" as the saying goes and reveal your sources is it not? So the answer is DG?[/p][/quote]There was a forum which was seperate to comments on articles. So yeah it's not a forum in its current state. As for your question,its hardly secret information. Its all out there if you want to read it. I'm not doing for you. Now how about addressing the points I made in counter to Romains so called "facts" You agree with him so lets hear it.....[/p][/quote]Darren's post says it all - we all have different views - there are some - many perhaps who are not happy with the way the side is playing or the way it is being managed - I'm not dso concerned re the latter but the former is a worry - we are far from being in a dire postion but there are concerns that we are losing games by the odd goal because our strike force isn't potent enough -at the moment. I think your comment - "its all out there go and find it I'm not telling you is a cop out - I cant be arsed to trawl through pages of the internet to find it -I don't recall any public or club expressions of disdain about these forums -perhaps you can point me in the right direction -that's if you're not talking total tosh to start with? And as far as I can recall the Adver comments option have always followed an article and therefore a forum for readers to post their opinions on said article?[/p][/quote]You want me to provide evidence and I like you cannot be bothered to search for it. No cop out but you can think what you like. There was a forum with many members but it died out. A few years ago it was the busiest of the town forums. Most of the people from there ended up on the townend forum. In my opinion the only one now worth reading Davey Gravey

9:22pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Oi Den! says...

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Taken myself off suicide watch. Firstly apologies to all, through my lucky red socks away a few weeks ago, the new ones have shown a very poor return. They won't been worn again on match day - our season will be saved!!

Now seriously I'm the dreamer on the site but have we just played another game where we've dominated play and created more chances? Yes it's becoming an ugly habit recently but that's the wonderful (or terrible) thing about the beautiful game. The best team doesn't always win every time.

We were ten points behind Crawley last year in mid January. Yes we are all frustrated but yes I'm still going to stick my neck out. We will win this league.

Paolo will prove all the doubters wrong. Still totally convinced of it. Ps Delighted we played our best midfield Saturday, long may it continue!
Delicious irony, dreamo! Paolo will prove all the doubters wrong? He's the biggest doubter of all. I still believe we can win promotion, but I don't think we've got a cat in hell's chance while he keeps talking his team down. A couple of months ago we were Barcelona, and now the limit of our ability and aspiration is mid-table safety? Has so much really changed in such a short time? I imagine that Black, Patey and co are not too pleased about all the negativity either. They need bums on seats, and PDC is not exactly encouraging the floating fans to turn up. Come on Paolo. Get back to your inspirational best. Inspire the players, inspire the fans and inspire the "would be" fans.
[quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: Taken myself off suicide watch. Firstly apologies to all, through my lucky red socks away a few weeks ago, the new ones have shown a very poor return. They won't been worn again on match day - our season will be saved!! Now seriously I'm the dreamer on the site but have we just played another game where we've dominated play and created more chances? Yes it's becoming an ugly habit recently but that's the wonderful (or terrible) thing about the beautiful game. The best team doesn't always win every time. We were ten points behind Crawley last year in mid January. Yes we are all frustrated but yes I'm still going to stick my neck out. We will win this league. Paolo will prove all the doubters wrong. Still totally convinced of it. Ps Delighted we played our best midfield Saturday, long may it continue![/p][/quote]Delicious irony, dreamo! Paolo will prove all the doubters wrong? He's the biggest doubter of all. I still believe we can win promotion, but I don't think we've got a cat in hell's chance while he keeps talking his team down. A couple of months ago we were Barcelona, and now the limit of our ability and aspiration is mid-table safety? Has so much really changed in such a short time? I imagine that Black, Patey and co are not too pleased about all the negativity either. They need bums on seats, and PDC is not exactly encouraging the floating fans to turn up. Come on Paolo. Get back to your inspirational best. Inspire the players, inspire the fans and inspire the "would be" fans. Oi Den!

9:28pm Sun 25 Nov 12

red white says...

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Red White my pleasure.

For what it's worth I think Paolo firmly believes we will win the league but it is his form of psychology with the players. He's taking pressure off whilst trying to get them to fight to prove him wrong.

Then it will be mid February/early March bigging them up telling them they are brilliant. Then we win the league....

ps Threw threw threw threw, it's been a long few days.
That is proper mate,so spot on you know his workings.

Start of Feb we beat Srfend 4-1 a,then Barnet,then Crawlers 3-0 a,Shrews 2-1,,Burton 2-0 to go top,Daggers 4-0 all on a Tuesday night.

Under them floodlights!

Then Turkey 2-0.

Time will tell.
[quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: Red White my pleasure. For what it's worth I think Paolo firmly believes we will win the league but it is his form of psychology with the players. He's taking pressure off whilst trying to get them to fight to prove him wrong. Then it will be mid February/early March bigging them up telling them they are brilliant. Then we win the league.... ps Threw threw threw threw, it's been a long few days.[/p][/quote]That is proper mate,so spot on you know his workings. Start of Feb we beat Srfend 4-1 a,then Barnet,then Crawlers 3-0 a,Shrews 2-1,,Burton 2-0 to go top,Daggers 4-0 all on a Tuesday night. Under them floodlights! Then Turkey 2-0. Time will tell. red white

9:31pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Davey Gravey says...

@southside7 missed your post earlier. Think the team and club in general is in a healthy position. Right up there in the league with everything to play for.
@southside7 missed your post earlier. Think the team and club in general is in a healthy position. Right up there in the league with everything to play for. Davey Gravey

9:41pm Sun 25 Nov 12

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

Den that's the point you've hit the nail on the head. No not much has changed. We were not Barcelona then nor are we rubbish now.

I truely believe he thinks it's the best way to motivate the players over the long haul. We may not all agree that on the face of it his methods work but let's just not right him or us off just yet....
Den that's the point you've hit the nail on the head. No not much has changed. We were not Barcelona then nor are we rubbish now. I truely believe he thinks it's the best way to motivate the players over the long haul. We may not all agree that on the face of it his methods work but let's just not right him or us off just yet.... dreamofacleansheet2

9:59pm Sun 25 Nov 12

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
Malkym wrote: DG for goodness sake make your mind up! It's not a forum for starters OR It is a shame as there used to be a busy forum on this site. ???!!! Also I note you've conveniently ignored my question -> How do you know that these forum comments are frowned upon by club staff past and present? Time to "put up or shut up" as the saying goes and reveal your sources is it not? So the answer is DG?
There was a forum which was seperate to comments on articles. So yeah it's not a forum in its current state. As for your question,its hardly secret information. Its all out there if you want to read it. I'm not doing for you. Now how about addressing the points I made in counter to Romains so called "facts" You agree with him so lets hear it.....
It is a fact..
15 points from the last 33...

Daved i hope im wrong big time but thats just the way i see it at the moment, and no dought everyone else hopes there wrong as well..
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malkym[/bold] wrote: DG for goodness sake make your mind up! It's not a forum for starters OR It is a shame as there used to be a busy forum on this site. ???!!! Also I note you've conveniently ignored my question -> How do you know that these forum comments are frowned upon by club staff past and present? Time to "put up or shut up" as the saying goes and reveal your sources is it not? So the answer is DG?[/p][/quote]There was a forum which was seperate to comments on articles. So yeah it's not a forum in its current state. As for your question,its hardly secret information. Its all out there if you want to read it. I'm not doing for you. Now how about addressing the points I made in counter to Romains so called "facts" You agree with him so lets hear it.....[/p][/quote]It is a fact.. 15 points from the last 33... Daved i hope im wrong big time but thats just the way i see it at the moment, and no dought everyone else hopes there wrong as well.. DarrenSTFCRomain

10:23pm Sun 25 Nov 12

southside7 says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
@southside7 missed your post earlier. Think the team and club in general is in a healthy position. Right up there in the league with everything to play for.
Thank you for your first coherent post of the evening. I, like Den, Wiz, Darren, Don, Malk and others hold our manager to account, IMO with balanced and reasonable arguments. This is not only our democratic right, but is essential to keep in check the cult that follow him no matter what he does. This does not mean we don't follow him. I may not like him, but I follow him as he asked us to do.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: @southside7 missed your post earlier. Think the team and club in general is in a healthy position. Right up there in the league with everything to play for.[/p][/quote]Thank you for your first coherent post of the evening. I, like Den, Wiz, Darren, Don, Malk and others hold our manager to account, IMO with balanced and reasonable arguments. This is not only our democratic right, but is essential to keep in check the cult that follow him no matter what he does. This does not mean we don't follow him. I may not like him, but I follow him as he asked us to do. southside7

10:26pm Sun 25 Nov 12

southside7 says...

....whilst critiquing him along the way.
....whilst critiquing him along the way. southside7

10:38pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Davey Gravey says...

southside7 wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
@southside7 missed your post earlier. Think the team and club in general is in a healthy position. Right up there in the league with everything to play for.
Thank you for your first coherent post of the evening. I, like Den, Wiz, Darren, Don, Malk and others hold our manager to account, IMO with balanced and reasonable arguments. This is not only our democratic right, but is essential to keep in check the cult that follow him no matter what he does. This does not mean we don't follow him. I may not like him, but I follow him as he asked us to do.
All my posts have been quite clear. I beg to differ that views are balanced and reasonable arguements.often from what I've read quite the opposite actually. Anyway I wish you a pleasant evening.good night.
[quote][p][bold]southside7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: @southside7 missed your post earlier. Think the team and club in general is in a healthy position. Right up there in the league with everything to play for.[/p][/quote]Thank you for your first coherent post of the evening. I, like Den, Wiz, Darren, Don, Malk and others hold our manager to account, IMO with balanced and reasonable arguments. This is not only our democratic right, but is essential to keep in check the cult that follow him no matter what he does. This does not mean we don't follow him. I may not like him, but I follow him as he asked us to do.[/p][/quote]All my posts have been quite clear. I beg to differ that views are balanced and reasonable arguements.often from what I've read quite the opposite actually. Anyway I wish you a pleasant evening.good night. Davey Gravey

10:48pm Sun 25 Nov 12

the wizard says...

southside7 wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
@southside7 missed your post earlier. Think the team and club in general is in a healthy position. Right up there in the league with everything to play for.
Thank you for your first coherent post of the evening. I, like Den, Wiz, Darren, Don, Malk and others hold our manager to account, IMO with balanced and reasonable arguments. This is not only our democratic right, but is essential to keep in check the cult that follow him no matter what he does. This does not mean we don't follow him. I may not like him, but I follow him as he asked us to do.
While I hold him to account as well, I still support him. He is after all our manager, although I don't go along with the public, name/shame/blame agenda. We have had several really good managers who have been ex-players of note, the present man also. Bearing in mind his whole persona as a player I am therefore dismayed and somewhat confused with his present methods of play and somewhat very disappointed that for one so skilled, he chooses the ariel bombardment as opposed to flowing footie through the park, and his present inability to sufficiently see where we are going wrong. Any job is easy when you look at it if the person doing it is polished and accomplished. When they are not it becomes painful and frustrating for the onlooker. Right now he could do with an experienced right hand man. The problem with that is, his ego would not allow it. Have a good week guys, Cheers for now.
[quote][p][bold]southside7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: @southside7 missed your post earlier. Think the team and club in general is in a healthy position. Right up there in the league with everything to play for.[/p][/quote]Thank you for your first coherent post of the evening. I, like Den, Wiz, Darren, Don, Malk and others hold our manager to account, IMO with balanced and reasonable arguments. This is not only our democratic right, but is essential to keep in check the cult that follow him no matter what he does. This does not mean we don't follow him. I may not like him, but I follow him as he asked us to do.[/p][/quote]While I hold him to account as well, I still support him. He is after all our manager, although I don't go along with the public, name/shame/blame agenda. We have had several really good managers who have been ex-players of note, the present man also. Bearing in mind his whole persona as a player I am therefore dismayed and somewhat confused with his present methods of play and somewhat very disappointed that for one so skilled, he chooses the ariel bombardment as opposed to flowing footie through the park, and his present inability to sufficiently see where we are going wrong. Any job is easy when you look at it if the person doing it is polished and accomplished. When they are not it becomes painful and frustrating for the onlooker. Right now he could do with an experienced right hand man. The problem with that is, his ego would not allow it. Have a good week guys, Cheers for now. the wizard

12:09am Mon 26 Nov 12

mancrobin says...

Davey Gravey wrote:
southside7 wrote:
Davey Gravey wrote:
@southside7 missed your post earlier. Think the team and club in general is in a healthy position. Right up there in the league with everything to play for.
Thank you for your first coherent post of the evening. I, like Den, Wiz, Darren, Don, Malk and others hold our manager to account, IMO with balanced and reasonable arguments. This is not only our democratic right, but is essential to keep in check the cult that follow him no matter what he does. This does not mean we don't follow him. I may not like him, but I follow him as he asked us to do.
All my posts have been quite clear. I beg to differ that views are balanced and reasonable arguements.often from what I've read quite the opposite actually. Anyway I wish you a pleasant evening.good night.
Davey, how come you've never posted before? And yet so informed about the nature of exchanges on this forum?

I suggest you either make a contribution or disappear to whence you came.
[quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southside7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davey Gravey[/bold] wrote: @southside7 missed your post earlier. Think the team and club in general is in a healthy position. Right up there in the league with everything to play for.[/p][/quote]Thank you for your first coherent post of the evening. I, like Den, Wiz, Darren, Don, Malk and others hold our manager to account, IMO with balanced and reasonable arguments. This is not only our democratic right, but is essential to keep in check the cult that follow him no matter what he does. This does not mean we don't follow him. I may not like him, but I follow him as he asked us to do.[/p][/quote]All my posts have been quite clear. I beg to differ that views are balanced and reasonable arguements.often from what I've read quite the opposite actually. Anyway I wish you a pleasant evening.good night.[/p][/quote]Davey, how come you've never posted before? And yet so informed about the nature of exchanges on this forum? I suggest you either make a contribution or disappear to whence you came. mancrobin

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