SWINDON TOWN: 'We were wasteful'

Swindon Advertiser: Town boss Paolo Di Canio Town boss Paolo Di Canio

PAOLO Di Canio suggested his Swindon Town players need to find their way into an opponent’s penalty area 80 times if they are going to score more than once in a game, after seeing the Robins emerge with a 1-1 draw despite dominating Doncaster at the County Ground.

Matt Ritchie’s eighth-minute strike only proved enough for a share of the spoils, as Danny Hollands and Chris Martin hit the woodwork and Gary Roberts and Andy Williams both spurned glorious chances against second-placed Donny.

Di Canio estimated after the match that Town had got into the Rovers box on 60 occasions during the game and cut a frustrated figure when talking about his forwards’ profligacy in front of goal.

“I told my players to be more clinical in wide areas because we were probably 60 times in the opponents’ box and that is not enough to score two goals,” he said.

“We have to arrive 80 times, probably. If we deliver 80 better balls into the box we are going to score two because, unfortunately, every two balls in our box we can concede a goal.

“I said that in some areas it’s clear that, for many reasons, I don’t want to attack or underestimate players but everyone can improve. When the problem is in (their heads), when the people go blurry. I’m not a psychiatrist, otherwise I would change jobs, I am a football manager that tries to help.

“Unfortunately an injury for example, and I’m talking about Andy Williams, probably put him in a bad situation and saw him drop back to the past in a negative way.

“Apart from the 30-minute magic moment against Aston Villa because of the adrenaline and the atmosphere, in a normal day I am very disappointed with him. Not in terms of commitment, but now I cannot wait any more with this situation.

“We work much more than the other sides in the league. We work Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, evening Friday morning now we practice how to keep the ball.

“There is a limit to extend their attention for some details. Sometimes it is too much so you have to reduce the pressure to help. I’ve tried everything, now it’s been three months. It’s enough time to understand that if the problem is in (their heads) I can only work on my pillars which are tactical and discipline.

“That will help us to have a decent season and save the season well, establish this club in League One in a very good manner.”

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8:14am Mon 10 Dec 12

the wizard says...

We Were Wasteful, well you should know, kettle, pot, black, especially where money is concerned.
We Were Wasteful, well you should know, kettle, pot, black, especially where money is concerned. the wizard

8:31am Mon 10 Dec 12

old town robin says...

Withj regards Williams, thought he had a decent first half, didn't win much in the second half, guess their centre back tightened up on him. Paolo must be referring to the 1on1 with the goalie, if he had been braver the ball was his for the taking or Woods would have had to brought him down for a penalty., but he bottled it big time and chickened out..

Said Saturday with his pace he might be better used as a wide winger because he doesn't seem to doing the business in the middle.
Withj regards Williams, thought he had a decent first half, didn't win much in the second half, guess their centre back tightened up on him. Paolo must be referring to the 1on1 with the goalie, if he had been braver the ball was his for the taking or Woods would have had to brought him down for a penalty., but he bottled it big time and chickened out.. Said Saturday with his pace he might be better used as a wide winger because he doesn't seem to doing the business in the middle. old town robin

8:43am Mon 10 Dec 12

the wizard says...

old town robin wrote:
Withj regards Williams, thought he had a decent first half, didn't win much in the second half, guess their centre back tightened up on him. Paolo must be referring to the 1on1 with the goalie, if he had been braver the ball was his for the taking or Woods would have had to brought him down for a penalty., but he bottled it big time and chickened out..

Said Saturday with his pace he might be better used as a wide winger because he doesn't seem to doing the business in the middle.
Agreed with the winger, then you could put Ritchie on the other flank and put RDV up front as a striker, worth a try?
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: Withj regards Williams, thought he had a decent first half, didn't win much in the second half, guess their centre back tightened up on him. Paolo must be referring to the 1on1 with the goalie, if he had been braver the ball was his for the taking or Woods would have had to brought him down for a penalty., but he bottled it big time and chickened out.. Said Saturday with his pace he might be better used as a wide winger because he doesn't seem to doing the business in the middle.[/p][/quote]Agreed with the winger, then you could put Ritchie on the other flank and put RDV up front as a striker, worth a try? the wizard

9:12am Mon 10 Dec 12

Robinonfire says...

Loads of chances every game now is....just past the post.

Williams/Collins is not working - no goals.

PDC needs to look at the best result of the season Stevenage game 4 -1 and go back to this team.(Near as poss)
Loads of chances every game now is....just past the post. Williams/Collins is not working - no goals. PDC needs to look at the best result of the season Stevenage game 4 -1 and go back to this team.(Near as poss) Robinonfire

9:20am Mon 10 Dec 12

Angolan Red says...

Publicy slagging the players again players hes brought in, they have lost convidence in front of goal because of his constant public moaning about his squad. Team spirit we lack, January when Decanio doesnt get his way hopefully he will be off.Regular supporter since 67 and season ticket holder.
Publicy slagging the players again players hes brought in, they have lost convidence in front of goal because of his constant public moaning about his squad. Team spirit we lack, January when Decanio doesnt get his way hopefully he will be off.Regular supporter since 67 and season ticket holder. Angolan Red

9:23am Mon 10 Dec 12

RAYSPARROW says...

got his subs wrong, should take some blame
got his subs wrong, should take some blame RAYSPARROW

9:34am Mon 10 Dec 12

mallorca says...

I still feel the Town have done OK this season,getting promoted and consolidation is the key to any succes.
My only bad vibe is players pdc have signed do not appear to be working especially in front of goal.Also just wish at times Pdc would not yapp so much to the media and slagg his palyers off.By all means he is the BOSS and if unhappy should all be done in house.
Lets hope the xmas period brings a little bit more luck??????
As to pdc leaving again if these rumours etc are correct who know's????
Do not feel it is time to bring in new Manager and to be honest he aint done so bad,yet at times I guess we all get concerned.
Best wishes and Merry xmas to all Town Fans from us out here
Wiz how are you doing health wise??????
I still feel the Town have done OK this season,getting promoted and consolidation is the key to any succes. My only bad vibe is players pdc have signed do not appear to be working especially in front of goal.Also just wish at times Pdc would not yapp so much to the media and slagg his palyers off.By all means he is the BOSS and if unhappy should all be done in house. Lets hope the xmas period brings a little bit more luck?????? As to pdc leaving again if these rumours etc are correct who know's???? Do not feel it is time to bring in new Manager and to be honest he aint done so bad,yet at times I guess we all get concerned. Best wishes and Merry xmas to all Town Fans from us out here Wiz how are you doing health wise?????? mallorca

9:53am Mon 10 Dec 12

fss2012 says...

The reality is PDC hasn't recruited well this season when it comes to strikers. Collins, Willo and Rooney have approx 12 goals between them in the league, hardly sets the world alight!!! It is even more frustrating when he bemoans their ability to get on the end of crosses and show that "desire" to pick off on those scraps... I know a striker that has a knack of being in the right place at the right time and is renowned for his 2 yard tap ins, he plays for Pompey, his name is PAUL BENSON, oh wait a minute, that name rings a bell !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its staggering to think that Benno is on loan elsewhere and has not been given the chance with a run in the team. I don't think you get allot from benno in general in terms of leading the line but when that ball is in and around the box, nobody cannot deny there has been anyone better under PDC regime... Its just so frustrating how both Connell and Benno finish last season as top scorers with 13, yet neither is given the chance this season, albeit benno is still with us...

No one knows if they had been given a chance that they would be any better but PDC must accept that at this moment in time, he has not justified his decisions on the strikers that he has let go and the replacements signed.

Nice to see that now he is blaming their mentality, so if its not their "desire" "professionalism" "not nasty enough" its now something new... whats next??? they don't wear the correct boots

Im getting proper annoyed with our form at the moment and lack of ability to win games at home not because we have a divine right to be winning like last season but that our general play more often that not clearly shows we are good enough that we should be winning most weeks.

I see PDC says he wanted to bring in a nasty striker but couldn't because of the embargo, which says to me he still feels we lack this. Therefore, Martin has replaced benno for the sake of it... and im not too sure im that convinced that PDC will identify a good enough striker that will score or if he does, lets hope he doesn't go on to be top goalscorer because then they will no longer be required. Maybe that's why Willo and Collo don't want to score coz they seen what has happened to top goal scorers before at the club
The reality is PDC hasn't recruited well this season when it comes to strikers. Collins, Willo and Rooney have approx 12 goals between them in the league, hardly sets the world alight!!! It is even more frustrating when he bemoans their ability to get on the end of crosses and show that "desire" to pick off on those scraps... I know a striker that has a knack of being in the right place at the right time and is renowned for his 2 yard tap ins, he plays for Pompey, his name is PAUL BENSON, oh wait a minute, that name rings a bell !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its staggering to think that Benno is on loan elsewhere and has not been given the chance with a run in the team. I don't think you get allot from benno in general in terms of leading the line but when that ball is in and around the box, nobody cannot deny there has been anyone better under PDC regime... Its just so frustrating how both Connell and Benno finish last season as top scorers with 13, yet neither is given the chance this season, albeit benno is still with us... No one knows if they had been given a chance that they would be any better but PDC must accept that at this moment in time, he has not justified his decisions on the strikers that he has let go and the replacements signed. Nice to see that now he is blaming their mentality, so if its not their "desire" "professionalism" "not nasty enough" its now something new... whats next??? they don't wear the correct boots Im getting proper annoyed with our form at the moment and lack of ability to win games at home not because we have a divine right to be winning like last season but that our general play more often that not clearly shows we are good enough that we should be winning most weeks. I see PDC says he wanted to bring in a nasty striker but couldn't because of the embargo, which says to me he still feels we lack this. Therefore, Martin has replaced benno for the sake of it... and im not too sure im that convinced that PDC will identify a good enough striker that will score or if he does, lets hope he doesn't go on to be top goalscorer because then they will no longer be required. Maybe that's why Willo and Collo don't want to score coz they seen what has happened to top goal scorers before at the club fss2012

9:56am Mon 10 Dec 12

the don69 says...

Wasteful is not the right word Paolo!Wrong is more like it!Wrong choices of Strikers and Wrong choices of loan Strikers,get rid of Spencer and if you can't choose a decent Striker,let's find a football scout who can!!!!!!!!!!
Wasteful is not the right word Paolo!Wrong is more like it!Wrong choices of Strikers and Wrong choices of loan Strikers,get rid of Spencer and if you can't choose a decent Striker,let's find a football scout who can!!!!!!!!!! the don69

10:49am Mon 10 Dec 12

hertz says...

fss2012 I am with you on Beno , some have that knack of being right place right time , does'nt matter how long you keep them on the training ground some things you just cannot train players to do its just instinct , Beno is that man for me , he adds a bit of height and has the knack for th tap in or header . I would have fancied him to convert at least one chance against Brentford , Notts and Doncaster , where would that put us now ? add Miles Storey in that mix , just because the Adver ran a 5 page spread on the lad it does'nt mean he cannot score anymore , milk it while you have the chance .

COYR
fss2012 I am with you on Beno , some have that knack of being right place right time , does'nt matter how long you keep them on the training ground some things you just cannot train players to do its just instinct , Beno is that man for me , he adds a bit of height and has the knack for th tap in or header . I would have fancied him to convert at least one chance against Brentford , Notts and Doncaster , where would that put us now ? add Miles Storey in that mix , just because the Adver ran a 5 page spread on the lad it does'nt mean he cannot score anymore , milk it while you have the chance . COYR hertz

10:59am Mon 10 Dec 12

Oxon-Red says...

fss2012 wrote:
The reality is PDC hasn't recruited well this season when it comes to strikers. Collins, Willo and Rooney have approx 12 goals between them in the league, hardly sets the world alight!!! It is even more frustrating when he bemoans their ability to get on the end of crosses and show that "desire" to pick off on those scraps... I know a striker that has a knack of being in the right place at the right time and is renowned for his 2 yard tap ins, he plays for Pompey, his name is PAUL BENSON, oh wait a minute, that name rings a bell !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its staggering to think that Benno is on loan elsewhere and has not been given the chance with a run in the team. I don't think you get allot from benno in general in terms of leading the line but when that ball is in and around the box, nobody cannot deny there has been anyone better under PDC regime... Its just so frustrating how both Connell and Benno finish last season as top scorers with 13, yet neither is given the chance this season, albeit benno is still with us... No one knows if they had been given a chance that they would be any better but PDC must accept that at this moment in time, he has not justified his decisions on the strikers that he has let go and the replacements signed. Nice to see that now he is blaming their mentality, so if its not their "desire" "professionalism" "not nasty enough" its now something new... whats next??? they don't wear the correct boots Im getting proper annoyed with our form at the moment and lack of ability to win games at home not because we have a divine right to be winning like last season but that our general play more often that not clearly shows we are good enough that we should be winning most weeks. I see PDC says he wanted to bring in a nasty striker but couldn't because of the embargo, which says to me he still feels we lack this. Therefore, Martin has replaced benno for the sake of it... and im not too sure im that convinced that PDC will identify a good enough striker that will score or if he does, lets hope he doesn't go on to be top goalscorer because then they will no longer be required. Maybe that's why Willo and Collo don't want to score coz they seen what has happened to top goal scorers before at the club
I like Benson but his stats this season should be considered. One goal in 17 appearances is a very poor return.

He was excellent last season but his return this season is not good.

IMO the problem is the poor final balls into the box. We had many chances to cross in on Saturday and yet we did not create a clear cut chance for a Striker, the Roberts chance excepted. Crosses were too deep far too often and I don't remember one that was played in low, Benson thrived on this type of ball last season.

It's very easy to blame strikers for not scoring but sometimes the problem is in the supply. I liked the pairing of Martin and Williams on Saturday they looked to have the makings of a good understanding.

Frustrating, yes, but to suggest Benson's return will solve everything is not the answer IMO.

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]fss2012[/bold] wrote: The reality is PDC hasn't recruited well this season when it comes to strikers. Collins, Willo and Rooney have approx 12 goals between them in the league, hardly sets the world alight!!! It is even more frustrating when he bemoans their ability to get on the end of crosses and show that "desire" to pick off on those scraps... I know a striker that has a knack of being in the right place at the right time and is renowned for his 2 yard tap ins, he plays for Pompey, his name is PAUL BENSON, oh wait a minute, that name rings a bell !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its staggering to think that Benno is on loan elsewhere and has not been given the chance with a run in the team. I don't think you get allot from benno in general in terms of leading the line but when that ball is in and around the box, nobody cannot deny there has been anyone better under PDC regime... Its just so frustrating how both Connell and Benno finish last season as top scorers with 13, yet neither is given the chance this season, albeit benno is still with us... No one knows if they had been given a chance that they would be any better but PDC must accept that at this moment in time, he has not justified his decisions on the strikers that he has let go and the replacements signed. Nice to see that now he is blaming their mentality, so if its not their "desire" "professionalism" "not nasty enough" its now something new... whats next??? they don't wear the correct boots Im getting proper annoyed with our form at the moment and lack of ability to win games at home not because we have a divine right to be winning like last season but that our general play more often that not clearly shows we are good enough that we should be winning most weeks. I see PDC says he wanted to bring in a nasty striker but couldn't because of the embargo, which says to me he still feels we lack this. Therefore, Martin has replaced benno for the sake of it... and im not too sure im that convinced that PDC will identify a good enough striker that will score or if he does, lets hope he doesn't go on to be top goalscorer because then they will no longer be required. Maybe that's why Willo and Collo don't want to score coz they seen what has happened to top goal scorers before at the club[/p][/quote]I like Benson but his stats this season should be considered. One goal in 17 appearances is a very poor return. He was excellent last season but his return this season is not good. IMO the problem is the poor final balls into the box. We had many chances to cross in on Saturday and yet we did not create a clear cut chance for a Striker, the Roberts chance excepted. Crosses were too deep far too often and I don't remember one that was played in low, Benson thrived on this type of ball last season. It's very easy to blame strikers for not scoring but sometimes the problem is in the supply. I liked the pairing of Martin and Williams on Saturday they looked to have the makings of a good understanding. Frustrating, yes, but to suggest Benson's return will solve everything is not the answer IMO. COYMR Oxon-Red

11:24am Mon 10 Dec 12

the wizard says...

old town robin wrote:
Withj regards Williams, thought he had a decent first half, didn't win much in the second half, guess their centre back tightened up on him. Paolo must be referring to the 1on1 with the goalie, if he had been braver the ball was his for the taking or Woods would have had to brought him down for a penalty., but he bottled it big time and chickened out..

Said Saturday with his pace he might be better used as a wide winger because he doesn't seem to doing the business in the middle.
Saw a bit of the Pompey game on TV, a goal went from somebody else, but who was right there in case it didn't, wait for it,



B E N S O N yes Mister, "I'm ready for the Premiership", the bloke YOU shipped out is a goal machine, and his name is,

B E N S O N

By the by C O N N E L L scored again this weekend so I am told, oh yes, last seasons hero's so quickly discarded and there they are banging in what we need right now, GOALS.
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: Withj regards Williams, thought he had a decent first half, didn't win much in the second half, guess their centre back tightened up on him. Paolo must be referring to the 1on1 with the goalie, if he had been braver the ball was his for the taking or Woods would have had to brought him down for a penalty., but he bottled it big time and chickened out.. Said Saturday with his pace he might be better used as a wide winger because he doesn't seem to doing the business in the middle.[/p][/quote]Saw a bit of the Pompey game on TV, a goal went from somebody else, but who was right there in case it didn't, wait for it, B E N S O N yes Mister, "I'm ready for the Premiership", the bloke YOU shipped out is a goal machine, and his name is, B E N S O N By the by C O N N E L L scored again this weekend so I am told, oh yes, last seasons hero's so quickly discarded and there they are banging in what we need right now, GOALS. the wizard

11:31am Mon 10 Dec 12

SimonPrice351 says...

Hopefully this won't be considered as spam by the powers that be, but a former Lille LOSC player is very interested in joining Swindon.

The player in question is French/DR Congo right full-back Jerome Kinsonga who is a free agent. Maybe one for Paolo to look at?

Also, ex Everton and Ireland Goalkeeper John Mulligan is also interested in Swindon Town.
Hopefully this won't be considered as spam by the powers that be, but a former Lille LOSC player is very interested in joining Swindon. The player in question is French/DR Congo right full-back Jerome Kinsonga who is a free agent. Maybe one for Paolo to look at? Also, ex Everton and Ireland Goalkeeper John Mulligan is also interested in Swindon Town. SimonPrice351

11:33am Mon 10 Dec 12

Oi Den! says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
fss2012 wrote:
The reality is PDC hasn't recruited well this season when it comes to strikers. Collins, Willo and Rooney have approx 12 goals between them in the league, hardly sets the world alight!!! It is even more frustrating when he bemoans their ability to get on the end of crosses and show that "desire" to pick off on those scraps... I know a striker that has a knack of being in the right place at the right time and is renowned for his 2 yard tap ins, he plays for Pompey, his name is PAUL BENSON, oh wait a minute, that name rings a bell !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its staggering to think that Benno is on loan elsewhere and has not been given the chance with a run in the team. I don't think you get allot from benno in general in terms of leading the line but when that ball is in and around the box, nobody cannot deny there has been anyone better under PDC regime... Its just so frustrating how both Connell and Benno finish last season as top scorers with 13, yet neither is given the chance this season, albeit benno is still with us... No one knows if they had been given a chance that they would be any better but PDC must accept that at this moment in time, he has not justified his decisions on the strikers that he has let go and the replacements signed. Nice to see that now he is blaming their mentality, so if its not their "desire" "professionalism" "not nasty enough" its now something new... whats next??? they don't wear the correct boots Im getting proper annoyed with our form at the moment and lack of ability to win games at home not because we have a divine right to be winning like last season but that our general play more often that not clearly shows we are good enough that we should be winning most weeks. I see PDC says he wanted to bring in a nasty striker but couldn't because of the embargo, which says to me he still feels we lack this. Therefore, Martin has replaced benno for the sake of it... and im not too sure im that convinced that PDC will identify a good enough striker that will score or if he does, lets hope he doesn't go on to be top goalscorer because then they will no longer be required. Maybe that's why Willo and Collo don't want to score coz they seen what has happened to top goal scorers before at the club
I like Benson but his stats this season should be considered. One goal in 17 appearances is a very poor return.

He was excellent last season but his return this season is not good.

IMO the problem is the poor final balls into the box. We had many chances to cross in on Saturday and yet we did not create a clear cut chance for a Striker, the Roberts chance excepted. Crosses were too deep far too often and I don't remember one that was played in low, Benson thrived on this type of ball last season.

It's very easy to blame strikers for not scoring but sometimes the problem is in the supply. I liked the pairing of Martin and Williams on Saturday they looked to have the makings of a good understanding.

Frustrating, yes, but to suggest Benson's return will solve everything is not the answer IMO.

COYMR
Agree Oxon. I think PDC is confusing goalscoring opportunities with simply getting the ball into the box. Even the poorest footballer can just bang the ball into the box. What we need is the sort of slide rule killer pass in behind defenders which we know Ferry and Bostock can produce. Like you, I think there is far too much focus on the strikers. Collins gets loads of stick, but look at his two strikes against Yeovil when he received the ball to feet - one an excellent six yard box finish and the other a lovely curling effort from the edge of the box.
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If our current strikers are not scoring, I see no reason to believe that bringing another one in will be the magic wand that changes everything. I believe the truth is that we have a good players in all departments, including the strikers. Just listen to what opposition managers have to say about our players. They know what they are talking about. But sadly the whole is not as much as the sum of the parts. Yes, we are in a decent position but we should be doing better - the players are underachieving. I don't know what others think but I don't want to see the board giving PDC yet more money to bring in another expensive player. Where will it end? Our squad is the envy of most clubs in the division. Over to Paolo - after all, he is the top manager in the world. (I'm not sure where that puts Ronnie Moore).
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fss2012[/bold] wrote: The reality is PDC hasn't recruited well this season when it comes to strikers. Collins, Willo and Rooney have approx 12 goals between them in the league, hardly sets the world alight!!! It is even more frustrating when he bemoans their ability to get on the end of crosses and show that "desire" to pick off on those scraps... I know a striker that has a knack of being in the right place at the right time and is renowned for his 2 yard tap ins, he plays for Pompey, his name is PAUL BENSON, oh wait a minute, that name rings a bell !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its staggering to think that Benno is on loan elsewhere and has not been given the chance with a run in the team. I don't think you get allot from benno in general in terms of leading the line but when that ball is in and around the box, nobody cannot deny there has been anyone better under PDC regime... Its just so frustrating how both Connell and Benno finish last season as top scorers with 13, yet neither is given the chance this season, albeit benno is still with us... No one knows if they had been given a chance that they would be any better but PDC must accept that at this moment in time, he has not justified his decisions on the strikers that he has let go and the replacements signed. Nice to see that now he is blaming their mentality, so if its not their "desire" "professionalism" "not nasty enough" its now something new... whats next??? they don't wear the correct boots Im getting proper annoyed with our form at the moment and lack of ability to win games at home not because we have a divine right to be winning like last season but that our general play more often that not clearly shows we are good enough that we should be winning most weeks. I see PDC says he wanted to bring in a nasty striker but couldn't because of the embargo, which says to me he still feels we lack this. Therefore, Martin has replaced benno for the sake of it... and im not too sure im that convinced that PDC will identify a good enough striker that will score or if he does, lets hope he doesn't go on to be top goalscorer because then they will no longer be required. Maybe that's why Willo and Collo don't want to score coz they seen what has happened to top goal scorers before at the club[/p][/quote]I like Benson but his stats this season should be considered. One goal in 17 appearances is a very poor return. He was excellent last season but his return this season is not good. IMO the problem is the poor final balls into the box. We had many chances to cross in on Saturday and yet we did not create a clear cut chance for a Striker, the Roberts chance excepted. Crosses were too deep far too often and I don't remember one that was played in low, Benson thrived on this type of ball last season. It's very easy to blame strikers for not scoring but sometimes the problem is in the supply. I liked the pairing of Martin and Williams on Saturday they looked to have the makings of a good understanding. Frustrating, yes, but to suggest Benson's return will solve everything is not the answer IMO. COYMR[/p][/quote]Agree Oxon. I think PDC is confusing goalscoring opportunities with simply getting the ball into the box. Even the poorest footballer can just bang the ball into the box. What we need is the sort of slide rule killer pass in behind defenders which we know Ferry and Bostock can produce. Like you, I think there is far too much focus on the strikers. Collins gets loads of stick, but look at his two strikes against Yeovil when he received the ball to feet - one an excellent six yard box finish and the other a lovely curling effort from the edge of the box. . If our current strikers are not scoring, I see no reason to believe that bringing another one in will be the magic wand that changes everything. I believe the truth is that we have a good players in all departments, including the strikers. Just listen to what opposition managers have to say about our players. They know what they are talking about. But sadly the whole is not as much as the sum of the parts. Yes, we are in a decent position but we should be doing better - the players are underachieving. I don't know what others think but I don't want to see the board giving PDC yet more money to bring in another expensive player. Where will it end? Our squad is the envy of most clubs in the division. Over to Paolo - after all, he is the top manager in the world. (I'm not sure where that puts Ronnie Moore). Oi Den!

12:20pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Is that you Lovesey says...

Maybe I watched a different game on Saturday, I thought we absolutely dominated the team who were second in the table..... Maybe its me but that wasn't a bad point would have been all three apart from a silly own goal.

williams is a good player as is Collins, but I personally feel they keep coming backwards to get the ball, at least we weren't hoofing it long...
Maybe I watched a different game on Saturday, I thought we absolutely dominated the team who were second in the table..... Maybe its me but that wasn't a bad point would have been all three apart from a silly own goal. williams is a good player as is Collins, but I personally feel they keep coming backwards to get the ball, at least we weren't hoofing it long... Is that you Lovesey

12:38pm Mon 10 Dec 12

tifosi says...

The way the game was developing it was crazy to replace De Vita with Roberts
The way the game was developing it was crazy to replace De Vita with Roberts tifosi

12:39pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Oi Den! says...

Is that you Lovesey wrote:
Maybe I watched a different game on Saturday, I thought we absolutely dominated the team who were second in the table..... Maybe its me but that wasn't a bad point would have been all three apart from a silly own goal.

williams is a good player as is Collins, but I personally feel they keep coming backwards to get the ball, at least we weren't hoofing it long...
A point is better than none but If our players are as as good as most people seem to think (me included) we need to get away from the idea that a draw at home is a good result, even against a team like Doncaster. Agree with you about Collins and Williams but I don't see how you can say we would have won the game if it hadn't been for the own goal. Everything that happens in a game is affected by what goes before it. Yes, it might have stayed at 1-0 if if hadn't been for the own goal or we might have gone on to thrash them, or they might have even come back and beaten us. Anything is possible. The only thing we know for sure is that we got only 1 point from a game we dominated.
[quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: Maybe I watched a different game on Saturday, I thought we absolutely dominated the team who were second in the table..... Maybe its me but that wasn't a bad point would have been all three apart from a silly own goal. williams is a good player as is Collins, but I personally feel they keep coming backwards to get the ball, at least we weren't hoofing it long...[/p][/quote]A point is better than none but If our players are as as good as most people seem to think (me included) we need to get away from the idea that a draw at home is a good result, even against a team like Doncaster. Agree with you about Collins and Williams but I don't see how you can say we would have won the game if it hadn't been for the own goal. Everything that happens in a game is affected by what goes before it. Yes, it might have stayed at 1-0 if if hadn't been for the own goal or we might have gone on to thrash them, or they might have even come back and beaten us. Anything is possible. The only thing we know for sure is that we got only 1 point from a game we dominated. Oi Den!

12:50pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Wilesy says...

Surely if you get ball into the box 60 times a game and create about 3 good chances then rather than the strikers being poor finishers the problem is

a) Poor crossing
b) Poor runs made by the strikers

Probably a combination of both.

Williams scored loads last year in L1 for Yeovil and Martin is also proven at this level. No criticism to Paolo or Spencer for these signings, on paper far far less of a gamble than Benson, and Connell who don't have the proven track record at L1.
Surely if you get ball into the box 60 times a game and create about 3 good chances then rather than the strikers being poor finishers the problem is a) Poor crossing b) Poor runs made by the strikers Probably a combination of both. Williams scored loads last year in L1 for Yeovil and Martin is also proven at this level. No criticism to Paolo or Spencer for these signings, on paper far far less of a gamble than Benson, and Connell who don't have the proven track record at L1. Wilesy

12:51pm Mon 10 Dec 12

LeGod says...

Dont understand the criticism of PDC on here we totally dominated the game and should have won comfortably against a team who is supposedly one of the best in the league and we made them look very average. They brought their two big guys on with 20 minutes to go as they played for the point and defended in numbers.
They knew they were outplayed and although were all disappointed we didnt win you cant complain about the team performance as i though we played very well but we just have to put our chances away. For a team second in the table Doncaster were nothing special going forward and i still have to see a team better than us yet.
Were still in a good position and a run of a few wins over xmas will get us back in the top 6 mix again but we have to convert our chances.
As for the idiot giving Roberts abuse as he was warming down after the game - get a life mate !!!! were all disappointed in Roberts so far but doing what you did was out of order, every player can go through a bad patch but shouting abuse at him will make his situation worse. I do think however when we took Rafa off we lost momentum. Rafa is the most underrated player in my book and he offers alot to us as a team and deserved his man of the match award.
Dont understand the criticism of PDC on here we totally dominated the game and should have won comfortably against a team who is supposedly one of the best in the league and we made them look very average. They brought their two big guys on with 20 minutes to go as they played for the point and defended in numbers. They knew they were outplayed and although were all disappointed we didnt win you cant complain about the team performance as i though we played very well but we just have to put our chances away. For a team second in the table Doncaster were nothing special going forward and i still have to see a team better than us yet. Were still in a good position and a run of a few wins over xmas will get us back in the top 6 mix again but we have to convert our chances. As for the idiot giving Roberts abuse as he was warming down after the game - get a life mate !!!! were all disappointed in Roberts so far but doing what you did was out of order, every player can go through a bad patch but shouting abuse at him will make his situation worse. I do think however when we took Rafa off we lost momentum. Rafa is the most underrated player in my book and he offers alot to us as a team and deserved his man of the match award. LeGod

1:17pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Oi Den! says...

LeGod, you say you haven't seen a team that is better than us but doesn't the League table prove otherwise? After nearly half a season, seven teams are better than us. If you are saying that our players individually are as good as any other team's players, I agree with you. But doesn't that mean our players are underperforming? And therefore the manager is not getting the best out of them?
LeGod, you say you haven't seen a team that is better than us but doesn't the League table prove otherwise? After nearly half a season, seven teams are better than us. If you are saying that our players individually are as good as any other team's players, I agree with you. But doesn't that mean our players are underperforming? And therefore the manager is not getting the best out of them? Oi Den!

1:19pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Oi Den! says...

By the way LeGod, I didn't hear the abuse you mention. I agree that it is completely out of order.
By the way LeGod, I didn't hear the abuse you mention. I agree that it is completely out of order. Oi Den!

1:24pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Davidsyrett says...

I thought on Saturday we played some of our best football for some time,keeping the ball on the deck helped. it bought Bostock much more into the game and hollands looked impressive, but as has been the problem all season we cannot score crucial goals.

I'm inclined to think it's more to do with the service than the forwards, after all Collins, Rooney, Williams & Martins have all had decent scoring records until they can here, yet now they all look unlikely to hit a barn door!

The problem is that we have no real pace in midfield and the better quality defences have time to organise themselves by the time we get the ball in, Ritchie always tries to cut back to get the ball on his right foot, slowing everything down. How many times were his crosses hit over long on Saturday? To my mind I would look for a winger with pace who can take on players and BEAT them.

Also Connell would not have scored at this level and Benno was struggling to see out 90mins, they aren't the answer by a long way, now Miles Storey maybe a little different, and he has PACE, play him PdC!!
I thought on Saturday we played some of our best football for some time,keeping the ball on the deck helped. it bought Bostock much more into the game and hollands looked impressive, but as has been the problem all season we cannot score crucial goals. I'm inclined to think it's more to do with the service than the forwards, after all Collins, Rooney, Williams & Martins have all had decent scoring records until they can here, yet now they all look unlikely to hit a barn door! The problem is that we have no real pace in midfield and the better quality defences have time to organise themselves by the time we get the ball in, Ritchie always tries to cut back to get the ball on his right foot, slowing everything down. How many times were his crosses hit over long on Saturday? To my mind I would look for a winger with pace who can take on players and BEAT them. Also Connell would not have scored at this level and Benno was struggling to see out 90mins, they aren't the answer by a long way, now Miles Storey maybe a little different, and he has PACE, play him PdC!! Davidsyrett

1:29pm Mon 10 Dec 12

TheDukeOfBanbury says...

the wizard wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Withj regards Williams, thought he had a decent first half, didn't win much in the second half, guess their centre back tightened up on him. Paolo must be referring to the 1on1 with the goalie, if he had been braver the ball was his for the taking or Woods would have had to brought him down for a penalty., but he bottled it big time and chickened out..

Said Saturday with his pace he might be better used as a wide winger because he doesn't seem to doing the business in the middle.
Saw a bit of the Pompey game on TV, a goal went from somebody else, but who was right there in case it didn't, wait for it,



B E N S O N yes Mister, "I'm ready for the Premiership", the bloke YOU shipped out is a goal machine, and his name is,

B E N S O N

By the by C O N N E L L scored again this weekend so I am told, oh yes, last seasons hero's so quickly discarded and there they are banging in what we need right now, GOALS.
"Banging in the goals are they" ?

How many has Connell scored this season (Div 2) ?
How many has Benson scored since at Pompey ?

No goal machines. The last goal machine we had was Austin. Wanted to go so we sold him and rightly so, otherwise we would have got nothing.

......Saturday we were "unlucky" I for one don't like that term in football but Saturday we were. I for one am not concerned (not yet) as I believe it will come.
Teams are coming to Swindon and respecting us. Sure they defend well and we just have to break them down. We did that for 90 mins Saturday but failed to convert.

Be patient and it will come. Martin is a good signing. Once he gets his first he will continue scoring.

Connell and Benson sadly not the answer.

So you carry on moaning like the others in here. We share in the frustration but it is not as bad as you think., not just yet anyway. Still in touching distance and nobody ever won anything in December.

COYR'ds.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: Withj regards Williams, thought he had a decent first half, didn't win much in the second half, guess their centre back tightened up on him. Paolo must be referring to the 1on1 with the goalie, if he had been braver the ball was his for the taking or Woods would have had to brought him down for a penalty., but he bottled it big time and chickened out.. Said Saturday with his pace he might be better used as a wide winger because he doesn't seem to doing the business in the middle.[/p][/quote]Saw a bit of the Pompey game on TV, a goal went from somebody else, but who was right there in case it didn't, wait for it, B E N S O N yes Mister, "I'm ready for the Premiership", the bloke YOU shipped out is a goal machine, and his name is, B E N S O N By the by C O N N E L L scored again this weekend so I am told, oh yes, last seasons hero's so quickly discarded and there they are banging in what we need right now, GOALS.[/p][/quote]"Banging in the goals are they" ? How many has Connell scored this season (Div 2) ? How many has Benson scored since at Pompey ? No goal machines. The last goal machine we had was Austin. Wanted to go so we sold him and rightly so, otherwise we would have got nothing. ......Saturday we were "unlucky" I for one don't like that term in football but Saturday we were. I for one am not concerned (not yet) as I believe it will come. Teams are coming to Swindon and respecting us. Sure they defend well and we just have to break them down. We did that for 90 mins Saturday but failed to convert. Be patient and it will come. Martin is a good signing. Once he gets his first he will continue scoring. Connell and Benson sadly not the answer. So you carry on moaning like the others in here. We share in the frustration but it is not as bad as you think., not just yet anyway. Still in touching distance and nobody ever won anything in December. COYR'ds. TheDukeOfBanbury

1:31pm Mon 10 Dec 12

TheDukeOfBanbury says...

LeGod wrote:
Dont understand the criticism of PDC on here we totally dominated the game and should have won comfortably against a team who is supposedly one of the best in the league and we made them look very average. They brought their two big guys on with 20 minutes to go as they played for the point and defended in numbers.
They knew they were outplayed and although were all disappointed we didnt win you cant complain about the team performance as i though we played very well but we just have to put our chances away. For a team second in the table Doncaster were nothing special going forward and i still have to see a team better than us yet.
Were still in a good position and a run of a few wins over xmas will get us back in the top 6 mix again but we have to convert our chances.
As for the idiot giving Roberts abuse as he was warming down after the game - get a life mate !!!! were all disappointed in Roberts so far but doing what you did was out of order, every player can go through a bad patch but shouting abuse at him will make his situation worse. I do think however when we took Rafa off we lost momentum. Rafa is the most underrated player in my book and he offers alot to us as a team and deserved his man of the match award.
Great post.
[quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: Dont understand the criticism of PDC on here we totally dominated the game and should have won comfortably against a team who is supposedly one of the best in the league and we made them look very average. They brought their two big guys on with 20 minutes to go as they played for the point and defended in numbers. They knew they were outplayed and although were all disappointed we didnt win you cant complain about the team performance as i though we played very well but we just have to put our chances away. For a team second in the table Doncaster were nothing special going forward and i still have to see a team better than us yet. Were still in a good position and a run of a few wins over xmas will get us back in the top 6 mix again but we have to convert our chances. As for the idiot giving Roberts abuse as he was warming down after the game - get a life mate !!!! were all disappointed in Roberts so far but doing what you did was out of order, every player can go through a bad patch but shouting abuse at him will make his situation worse. I do think however when we took Rafa off we lost momentum. Rafa is the most underrated player in my book and he offers alot to us as a team and deserved his man of the match award.[/p][/quote]Great post. TheDukeOfBanbury

2:02pm Mon 10 Dec 12

LeGod says...

Oi Den - well the idiot who shouted abuse at Robert was sat righ at the back of the Don Rogers where the camera normally is and he got sarcastic applause from a few fans for shouting his abuse - we dont need fans like him again i've already said Roberts has been really disappointing but now i think he is playing with fear as he knows he disappointed us but shouting abuse at him is pointless.
Oi Den - well the idiot who shouted abuse at Robert was sat righ at the back of the Don Rogers where the camera normally is and he got sarcastic applause from a few fans for shouting his abuse - we dont need fans like him again i've already said Roberts has been really disappointing but now i think he is playing with fear as he knows he disappointed us but shouting abuse at him is pointless. LeGod

2:03pm Mon 10 Dec 12

the wizard says...

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
the wizard wrote:
old town robin wrote:
Withj regards Williams, thought he had a decent first half, didn't win much in the second half, guess their centre back tightened up on him. Paolo must be referring to the 1on1 with the goalie, if he had been braver the ball was his for the taking or Woods would have had to brought him down for a penalty., but he bottled it big time and chickened out..

Said Saturday with his pace he might be better used as a wide winger because he doesn't seem to doing the business in the middle.
Saw a bit of the Pompey game on TV, a goal went from somebody else, but who was right there in case it didn't, wait for it,



B E N S O N yes Mister, "I'm ready for the Premiership", the bloke YOU shipped out is a goal machine, and his name is,

B E N S O N

By the by C O N N E L L scored again this weekend so I am told, oh yes, last seasons hero's so quickly discarded and there they are banging in what we need right now, GOALS.
"Banging in the goals are they" ?

How many has Connell scored this season (Div 2) ?
How many has Benson scored since at Pompey ?

No goal machines. The last goal machine we had was Austin. Wanted to go so we sold him and rightly so, otherwise we would have got nothing.

......Saturday we were "unlucky" I for one don't like that term in football but Saturday we were. I for one am not concerned (not yet) as I believe it will come.
Teams are coming to Swindon and respecting us. Sure they defend well and we just have to break them down. We did that for 90 mins Saturday but failed to convert.

Be patient and it will come. Martin is a good signing. Once he gets his first he will continue scoring.

Connell and Benson sadly not the answer.

So you carry on moaning like the others in here. We share in the frustration but it is not as bad as you think., not just yet anyway. Still in touching distance and nobody ever won anything in December.

COYR'ds.
OK Duke, point taken. For a long long time my stance was that we would come good after Christmas, but after seeing our distinct lack of killer instinct to convert chances into goals after a two week rest, frankly I'm dumbfounded.

Even if the players are struggling surely its down to the bench to come up with a plan B and change things around. Taking off RDV was a big mistake and its not the first time our manager has done that to produce a detrimental effect. While I feel sorry for Roberts up to a point, he could have scored the winner and didn't, he looked terrified, and we need to understand why, or let him go, simple as that. I would prefer for him to start performing and contributing, but he seems either afraid or reluctant to do so.
You ask about goal machines, but when Connell does play he contributes, as does Benson, but in our ever changing side does anyone ever get a run in the side to try and do just that, Williams maybe. With his work rate I would have no hesitation at playing him on the wing, move Ritchie to the other flank and play RDV up front in his preferred position, as I believe he was a striker before he came here. His ethos and dedication to any task is beyond question, but one thing I would not do is move Williams out of the side, his input is immense.
The next problem will be finance in January, he has had his budget and the word is, No More, however not much is ever set in stone these days is it.
[quote][p][bold]TheDukeOfBanbury[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: Withj regards Williams, thought he had a decent first half, didn't win much in the second half, guess their centre back tightened up on him. Paolo must be referring to the 1on1 with the goalie, if he had been braver the ball was his for the taking or Woods would have had to brought him down for a penalty., but he bottled it big time and chickened out.. Said Saturday with his pace he might be better used as a wide winger because he doesn't seem to doing the business in the middle.[/p][/quote]Saw a bit of the Pompey game on TV, a goal went from somebody else, but who was right there in case it didn't, wait for it, B E N S O N yes Mister, "I'm ready for the Premiership", the bloke YOU shipped out is a goal machine, and his name is, B E N S O N By the by C O N N E L L scored again this weekend so I am told, oh yes, last seasons hero's so quickly discarded and there they are banging in what we need right now, GOALS.[/p][/quote]"Banging in the goals are they" ? How many has Connell scored this season (Div 2) ? How many has Benson scored since at Pompey ? No goal machines. The last goal machine we had was Austin. Wanted to go so we sold him and rightly so, otherwise we would have got nothing. ......Saturday we were "unlucky" I for one don't like that term in football but Saturday we were. I for one am not concerned (not yet) as I believe it will come. Teams are coming to Swindon and respecting us. Sure they defend well and we just have to break them down. We did that for 90 mins Saturday but failed to convert. Be patient and it will come. Martin is a good signing. Once he gets his first he will continue scoring. Connell and Benson sadly not the answer. So you carry on moaning like the others in here. We share in the frustration but it is not as bad as you think., not just yet anyway. Still in touching distance and nobody ever won anything in December. COYR'ds.[/p][/quote]OK Duke, point taken. For a long long time my stance was that we would come good after Christmas, but after seeing our distinct lack of killer instinct to convert chances into goals after a two week rest, frankly I'm dumbfounded. Even if the players are struggling surely its down to the bench to come up with a plan B and change things around. Taking off RDV was a big mistake and its not the first time our manager has done that to produce a detrimental effect. While I feel sorry for Roberts up to a point, he could have scored the winner and didn't, he looked terrified, and we need to understand why, or let him go, simple as that. I would prefer for him to start performing and contributing, but he seems either afraid or reluctant to do so. You ask about goal machines, but when Connell does play he contributes, as does Benson, but in our ever changing side does anyone ever get a run in the side to try and do just that, Williams maybe. With his work rate I would have no hesitation at playing him on the wing, move Ritchie to the other flank and play RDV up front in his preferred position, as I believe he was a striker before he came here. His ethos and dedication to any task is beyond question, but one thing I would not do is move Williams out of the side, his input is immense. The next problem will be finance in January, he has had his budget and the word is, No More, however not much is ever set in stone these days is it. the wizard

2:59pm Mon 10 Dec 12

smirg kcab says...

Devera has bust a gut in all four different positions he been asked to play in. Williams should be looking at joe for inspiration after all he only has one position to fill and makes a balls up week after week.
Ship him out ASAP
Onwards and upwards
Devera has bust a gut in all four different positions he been asked to play in. Williams should be looking at joe for inspiration after all he only has one position to fill and makes a balls up week after week. Ship him out ASAP Onwards and upwards smirg kcab

3:44pm Mon 10 Dec 12

HOOKEY says...

the don69 wrote:
Wasteful is not the right word Paolo!Wrong is more like it!Wrong choices of Strikers and Wrong choices of loan Strikers,get rid of Spencer and if you can't choose a decent Striker,let's find a football scout who can!!!!!!!!!!
good post,your spot on bring back budgie dave byrne,he could spot a good player when he see one
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: Wasteful is not the right word Paolo!Wrong is more like it!Wrong choices of Strikers and Wrong choices of loan Strikers,get rid of Spencer and if you can't choose a decent Striker,let's find a football scout who can!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]good post,your spot on bring back budgie dave byrne,he could spot a good player when he see one HOOKEY

5:11pm Mon 10 Dec 12

TheDukeOfBanbury says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Devera has bust a gut in all four different positions he been asked to play in. Williams should be looking at joe for inspiration after all he only has one position to fill and makes a balls up week after week.
Ship him out ASAP
Onwards and upwards
Williams makes things happen. More to come from him for sure.
Would be one of the last to ship out.
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Devera has bust a gut in all four different positions he been asked to play in. Williams should be looking at joe for inspiration after all he only has one position to fill and makes a balls up week after week. Ship him out ASAP Onwards and upwards[/p][/quote]Williams makes things happen. More to come from him for sure. Would be one of the last to ship out. TheDukeOfBanbury

5:46pm Mon 10 Dec 12

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
smirg kcab wrote: Devera has bust a gut in all four different positions he been asked to play in. Williams should be looking at joe for inspiration after all he only has one position to fill and makes a balls up week after week. Ship him out ASAP Onwards and upwards
Williams makes things happen. More to come from him for sure. Would be one of the last to ship out.
I Still think that Williams will come good...
Remember chaps that he has just come back from injury and the ball in2 the box have not beeb that special have they..

What get me is that paolo keeps slagging of the strikers but he still dont get Miles a go ?
[quote][p][bold]TheDukeOfBanbury[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Devera has bust a gut in all four different positions he been asked to play in. Williams should be looking at joe for inspiration after all he only has one position to fill and makes a balls up week after week. Ship him out ASAP Onwards and upwards[/p][/quote]Williams makes things happen. More to come from him for sure. Would be one of the last to ship out.[/p][/quote]I Still think that Williams will come good... Remember chaps that he has just come back from injury and the ball in2 the box have not beeb that special have they.. What get me is that paolo keeps slagging of the strikers but he still dont get Miles a go ? DarrenSTFCRomain

5:57pm Mon 10 Dec 12

the wizard says...

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
smirg kcab wrote: Devera has bust a gut in all four different positions he been asked to play in. Williams should be looking at joe for inspiration after all he only has one position to fill and makes a balls up week after week. Ship him out ASAP Onwards and upwards
Williams makes things happen. More to come from him for sure. Would be one of the last to ship out.
I Still think that Williams will come good...
Remember chaps that he has just come back from injury and the ball in2 the box have not beeb that special have they..

What get me is that paolo keeps slagging of the strikers but he still dont get Miles a go ?
Because he is playing politics with the board to get more money to bring in extra players, and when the board say, NO, then we will see a spat or two.
[quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheDukeOfBanbury[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Devera has bust a gut in all four different positions he been asked to play in. Williams should be looking at joe for inspiration after all he only has one position to fill and makes a balls up week after week. Ship him out ASAP Onwards and upwards[/p][/quote]Williams makes things happen. More to come from him for sure. Would be one of the last to ship out.[/p][/quote]I Still think that Williams will come good... Remember chaps that he has just come back from injury and the ball in2 the box have not beeb that special have they.. What get me is that paolo keeps slagging of the strikers but he still dont get Miles a go ?[/p][/quote]Because he is playing politics with the board to get more money to bring in extra players, and when the board say, NO, then we will see a spat or two. the wizard

6:25pm Mon 10 Dec 12

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

the wizard wrote:
DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
smirg kcab wrote: Devera has bust a gut in all four different positions he been asked to play in. Williams should be looking at joe for inspiration after all he only has one position to fill and makes a balls up week after week. Ship him out ASAP Onwards and upwards
Williams makes things happen. More to come from him for sure. Would be one of the last to ship out.
I Still think that Williams will come good... Remember chaps that he has just come back from injury and the ball in2 the box have not beeb that special have they.. What get me is that paolo keeps slagging of the strikers but he still dont get Miles a go ?
Because he is playing politics with the board to get more money to bring in extra players, and when the board say, NO, then we will see a spat or two.
But how can he !!! there his players...

BUT thinking about it yes your right.

Send back all the loans apart from Ward and Bostock, bring back Caddis Rooney Benson..
Then the board should start thinking about saving money,because the way were spending it STFC will be in a right mess again very soon
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheDukeOfBanbury[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Devera has bust a gut in all four different positions he been asked to play in. Williams should be looking at joe for inspiration after all he only has one position to fill and makes a balls up week after week. Ship him out ASAP Onwards and upwards[/p][/quote]Williams makes things happen. More to come from him for sure. Would be one of the last to ship out.[/p][/quote]I Still think that Williams will come good... Remember chaps that he has just come back from injury and the ball in2 the box have not beeb that special have they.. What get me is that paolo keeps slagging of the strikers but he still dont get Miles a go ?[/p][/quote]Because he is playing politics with the board to get more money to bring in extra players, and when the board say, NO, then we will see a spat or two.[/p][/quote]But how can he !!! there his players... BUT thinking about it yes your right. Send back all the loans apart from Ward and Bostock, bring back Caddis Rooney Benson.. Then the board should start thinking about saving money,because the way were spending it STFC will be in a right mess again very soon DarrenSTFCRomain

6:57pm Mon 10 Dec 12

SirReg says...

Recruits the wrong players. Loses some of the best players. Overtrains them. Wrong tactics. Wrong substitutions. Crass man management. Lines his agent's pockets. Humiliates colleagues in public. Blames everyone else.

Anyone else can't wait to see this egomaniac bully leave OUR club?
Recruits the wrong players. Loses some of the best players. Overtrains them. Wrong tactics. Wrong substitutions. Crass man management. Lines his agent's pockets. Humiliates colleagues in public. Blames everyone else. Anyone else can't wait to see this egomaniac bully leave OUR club? SirReg

7:15pm Mon 10 Dec 12

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

SirReg wrote:
Recruits the wrong players. Loses some of the best players. Overtrains them. Wrong tactics. Wrong substitutions. Crass man management. Lines his agent's pockets. Humiliates colleagues in public. Blames everyone else. Anyone else can't wait to see this egomaniac bully leave OUR club?
Well put it this way I would not have cared if he had left after the SHOCKING result at oxford..
You no when he played 5 NEW PLAYERS after signing them a couple of days be4....
And i dont no if many people have noticed but we dont see the crowd singing out his name like they use 2.ok some do but no way near what they used2...
[quote][p][bold]SirReg[/bold] wrote: Recruits the wrong players. Loses some of the best players. Overtrains them. Wrong tactics. Wrong substitutions. Crass man management. Lines his agent's pockets. Humiliates colleagues in public. Blames everyone else. Anyone else can't wait to see this egomaniac bully leave OUR club?[/p][/quote]Well put it this way I would not have cared if he had left after the SHOCKING result at oxford.. You no when he played 5 NEW PLAYERS after signing them a couple of days be4.... And i dont no if many people have noticed but we dont see the crowd singing out his name like they use 2.ok some do but no way near what they used2... DarrenSTFCRomain

7:22pm Mon 10 Dec 12

smirg kcab says...

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
smirg kcab wrote: Devera has bust a gut in all four different positions he been asked to play in. Williams should be looking at joe for inspiration after all he only has one position to fill and makes a balls up week after week. Ship him out ASAP Onwards and upwards
Williams makes things happen. More to come from him for sure. Would be one of the last to ship out.
I Still think that Williams will come good...
Remember chaps that he has just come back from injury and the ball in2 the box have not beeb that special have they..

What get me is that paolo keeps slagging of the strikers but he still dont get Miles a go ?
Yes he has just come back from injury so what's the excuse before the injury?.
Tries hard but not good enough as his goal ratio shows TAXI.
Also paolo slags the forwards off because they are Shiit. How many more times do you need to be told?
Just a shame paolo don't act on his abuse and do something about it,
I'm sure storey would have one that one on one with the keeper In stead of bottling it like he did, that was the final straw for me.
De vita and storey upfront every time for me.


Where's sue
Onwards and upwards
[quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheDukeOfBanbury[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Devera has bust a gut in all four different positions he been asked to play in. Williams should be looking at joe for inspiration after all he only has one position to fill and makes a balls up week after week. Ship him out ASAP Onwards and upwards[/p][/quote]Williams makes things happen. More to come from him for sure. Would be one of the last to ship out.[/p][/quote]I Still think that Williams will come good... Remember chaps that he has just come back from injury and the ball in2 the box have not beeb that special have they.. What get me is that paolo keeps slagging of the strikers but he still dont get Miles a go ?[/p][/quote]Yes he has just come back from injury so what's the excuse before the injury?. Tries hard but not good enough as his goal ratio shows TAXI. Also paolo slags the forwards off because they are Shiit. How many more times do you need to be told? Just a shame paolo don't act on his abuse and do something about it, I'm sure storey would have one that one on one with the keeper In stead of bottling it like he did, that was the final straw for me. De vita and storey upfront every time for me. Where's sue Onwards and upwards smirg kcab

7:45pm Mon 10 Dec 12

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

smirg kcab wrote:
DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
smirg kcab wrote: Devera has bust a gut in all four different positions he been asked to play in. Williams should be looking at joe for inspiration after all he only has one position to fill and makes a balls up week after week. Ship him out ASAP Onwards and upwards
Williams makes things happen. More to come from him for sure. Would be one of the last to ship out.
I Still think that Williams will come good... Remember chaps that he has just come back from injury and the ball in2 the box have not beeb that special have they.. What get me is that paolo keeps slagging of the strikers but he still dont get Miles a go ?
Yes he has just come back from injury so what's the excuse before the injury?. Tries hard but not good enough as his goal ratio shows TAXI. Also paolo slags the forwards off because they are Shiit. How many more times do you need to be told? Just a shame paolo don't act on his abuse and do something about it, I'm sure storey would have one that one on one with the keeper In stead of bottling it like he did, that was the final straw for me. De vita and storey upfront every time for me. Where's sue Onwards and upwards
Fair point smirg,,So why no Miles Storey then ?
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheDukeOfBanbury[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Devera has bust a gut in all four different positions he been asked to play in. Williams should be looking at joe for inspiration after all he only has one position to fill and makes a balls up week after week. Ship him out ASAP Onwards and upwards[/p][/quote]Williams makes things happen. More to come from him for sure. Would be one of the last to ship out.[/p][/quote]I Still think that Williams will come good... Remember chaps that he has just come back from injury and the ball in2 the box have not beeb that special have they.. What get me is that paolo keeps slagging of the strikers but he still dont get Miles a go ?[/p][/quote]Yes he has just come back from injury so what's the excuse before the injury?. Tries hard but not good enough as his goal ratio shows TAXI. Also paolo slags the forwards off because they are Shiit. How many more times do you need to be told? Just a shame paolo don't act on his abuse and do something about it, I'm sure storey would have one that one on one with the keeper In stead of bottling it like he did, that was the final straw for me. De vita and storey upfront every time for me. Where's sue Onwards and upwards[/p][/quote]Fair point smirg,,So why no Miles Storey then ? DarrenSTFCRomain

7:56pm Mon 10 Dec 12

smirg kcab says...

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
smirg kcab wrote:
DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
TheDukeOfBanbury wrote:
smirg kcab wrote: Devera has bust a gut in all four different positions he been asked to play in. Williams should be looking at joe for inspiration after all he only has one position to fill and makes a balls up week after week. Ship him out ASAP Onwards and upwards
Williams makes things happen. More to come from him for sure. Would be one of the last to ship out.
I Still think that Williams will come good... Remember chaps that he has just come back from injury and the ball in2 the box have not beeb that special have they.. What get me is that paolo keeps slagging of the strikers but he still dont get Miles a go ?
Yes he has just come back from injury so what's the excuse before the injury?. Tries hard but not good enough as his goal ratio shows TAXI. Also paolo slags the forwards off because they are Shiit. How many more times do you need to be told? Just a shame paolo don't act on his abuse and do something about it, I'm sure storey would have one that one on one with the keeper In stead of bottling it like he did, that was the final straw for me. De vita and storey upfront every time for me. Where's sue Onwards and upwards
Fair point smirg,,So why no Miles Storey then ?
Because if he scores he will make the headlines and takes it away from him.
Also s.m keeps throwing the spanner in the works by his wind ups.
Onwards and upwards
[quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheDukeOfBanbury[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Devera has bust a gut in all four different positions he been asked to play in. Williams should be looking at joe for inspiration after all he only has one position to fill and makes a balls up week after week. Ship him out ASAP Onwards and upwards[/p][/quote]Williams makes things happen. More to come from him for sure. Would be one of the last to ship out.[/p][/quote]I Still think that Williams will come good... Remember chaps that he has just come back from injury and the ball in2 the box have not beeb that special have they.. What get me is that paolo keeps slagging of the strikers but he still dont get Miles a go ?[/p][/quote]Yes he has just come back from injury so what's the excuse before the injury?. Tries hard but not good enough as his goal ratio shows TAXI. Also paolo slags the forwards off because they are Shiit. How many more times do you need to be told? Just a shame paolo don't act on his abuse and do something about it, I'm sure storey would have one that one on one with the keeper In stead of bottling it like he did, that was the final straw for me. De vita and storey upfront every time for me. Where's sue Onwards and upwards[/p][/quote]Fair point smirg,,So why no Miles Storey then ?[/p][/quote]Because if he scores he will make the headlines and takes it away from him. Also s.m keeps throwing the spanner in the works by his wind ups. Onwards and upwards smirg kcab

8:42pm Mon 10 Dec 12

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

ha ha ucking great one...

DID YOU FIND SUE ?
ha ha ucking great one... DID YOU FIND SUE ? DarrenSTFCRomain

9:11pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Oxon-Red says...

SirReg wrote:
Recruits the wrong players. Loses some of the best players. Overtrains them. Wrong tactics. Wrong substitutions. Crass man management. Lines his agent's pockets. Humiliates colleagues in public. Blames everyone else. Anyone else can't wait to see this egomaniac bully leave OUR club?
Who do you want in his place ?

We have been spoilt by the success the man has brought to the club and now because we are not top...

Overtrains them - we had very few injuries last season and the ones this year have mainly been to the players brought in.

Wrong tactics - expand please as you are obviously a master tactition.

Wrong substitutions - worked last season.

Crass man management - you work for him then ?

Lines Agent's pockets - most clubs do, we tried to get players without using agent's a few years ago. What happened ?

Humiliates colleagues in public - names players that have not played well instead of being woolly and blaming the defence/midfield/att
ack as a whole to be nice to the poor (overpaid) player.

Blames everyone else - the players are on the pitch.

Ten managers in 7 years at Town, we must be due for a change, NOT.

Short memories some people have.

COYMR
[quote][p][bold]SirReg[/bold] wrote: Recruits the wrong players. Loses some of the best players. Overtrains them. Wrong tactics. Wrong substitutions. Crass man management. Lines his agent's pockets. Humiliates colleagues in public. Blames everyone else. Anyone else can't wait to see this egomaniac bully leave OUR club?[/p][/quote]Who do you want in his place ? We have been spoilt by the success the man has brought to the club and now because we are not top... Overtrains them - we had very few injuries last season and the ones this year have mainly been to the players brought in. Wrong tactics - expand please as you are obviously a master tactition. Wrong substitutions - worked last season. Crass man management - you work for him then ? Lines Agent's pockets - most clubs do, we tried to get players without using agent's a few years ago. What happened ? Humiliates colleagues in public - names players that have not played well instead of being woolly and blaming the defence/midfield/att ack as a whole to be nice to the poor (overpaid) player. Blames everyone else - the players are on the pitch. Ten managers in 7 years at Town, we must be due for a change, NOT. Short memories some people have. COYMR Oxon-Red

10:46pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Oi Den! says...

Oxon, I enjoy and respect your posts but not the old "who do you want in his place?" chestnut again! Surely that question only needs to be raised when there's a vacancy? You either want PDC to stay (most of us) or you want him to go (a fairly small minority). Nobody has to justify the latter view by having a replacement in mind.
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My overall view is that PDC has done pretty well so far but I think it's fair to say it's been a mixed bag. On balance there are more positives than negatives. Many of us want him to stay but won't be devastated if he decides to jump or if he pushes the investors and Patey a step too far. Life will go on at STFC after PDC has departed, just as it has gone on since Victorian times.
Oxon, I enjoy and respect your posts but not the old "who do you want in his place?" chestnut again! Surely that question only needs to be raised when there's a vacancy? You either want PDC to stay (most of us) or you want him to go (a fairly small minority). Nobody has to justify the latter view by having a replacement in mind. . My overall view is that PDC has done pretty well so far but I think it's fair to say it's been a mixed bag. On balance there are more positives than negatives. Many of us want him to stay but won't be devastated if he decides to jump or if he pushes the investors and Patey a step too far. Life will go on at STFC after PDC has departed, just as it has gone on since Victorian times. Oi Den!

11:15pm Mon 10 Dec 12

BillyLucas4me says...

Is it true that PDC's financial adviser also advises him in a scouting capacity. Trust the Chairman will take a view on that. Pronto!
Is it true that PDC's financial adviser also advises him in a scouting capacity. Trust the Chairman will take a view on that. Pronto! BillyLucas4me

11:56pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Oxon-Red says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Oxon, I enjoy and respect your posts but not the old "who do you want in his place?" chestnut again! Surely that question only needs to be raised when there's a vacancy? You either want PDC to stay (most of us) or you want him to go (a fairly small minority). Nobody has to justify the latter view by having a replacement in mind. . My overall view is that PDC has done pretty well so far but I think it's fair to say it's been a mixed bag. On balance there are more positives than negatives. Many of us want him to stay but won't be devastated if he decides to jump or if he pushes the investors and Patey a step too far. Life will go on at STFC after PDC has departed, just as it has gone on since Victorian times.
Den,

I respect what you are saying but when someone comes on here and makes a statement suggesting that we get rid of a man that over the last 18 months has brought success to the club we all support I would like them to justify who would replace him.

Very easy to say time up, go, but we have had a manager on average for about 9 months. Where has it got us ? All I want is a bit of stability in the club and if they want him out they should be able to suggest someone that will continue where he left off.

Last season I saw all our home matches and four away from the County Ground. In total I saw us lose on 3 occasions (Oxford, Leicester and at Wembley). As a fan I could not really ask for more. I have fond memories of the celebrations after the Port Vale game and even more so after Bradford.

As a town fan, days like that don't happen often and to suggest that we should get rid of the man that is mainly responsible when we are in a decent position in a higher league is ridiculous.

We have had good times under PDC and it could still get better.

Changing subject slightly, look at the league table and look at the number of points teams have won at home this season. Very unusual, but apart from MK Dons, most teams have quite poor home records.

COYMR

ps sorry for the rant.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Oxon, I enjoy and respect your posts but not the old "who do you want in his place?" chestnut again! Surely that question only needs to be raised when there's a vacancy? You either want PDC to stay (most of us) or you want him to go (a fairly small minority). Nobody has to justify the latter view by having a replacement in mind. . My overall view is that PDC has done pretty well so far but I think it's fair to say it's been a mixed bag. On balance there are more positives than negatives. Many of us want him to stay but won't be devastated if he decides to jump or if he pushes the investors and Patey a step too far. Life will go on at STFC after PDC has departed, just as it has gone on since Victorian times.[/p][/quote]Den, I respect what you are saying but when someone comes on here and makes a statement suggesting that we get rid of a man that over the last 18 months has brought success to the club we all support I would like them to justify who would replace him. Very easy to say time up, go, but we have had a manager on average for about 9 months. Where has it got us ? All I want is a bit of stability in the club and if they want him out they should be able to suggest someone that will continue where he left off. Last season I saw all our home matches and four away from the County Ground. In total I saw us lose on 3 occasions (Oxford, Leicester and at Wembley). As a fan I could not really ask for more. I have fond memories of the celebrations after the Port Vale game and even more so after Bradford. As a town fan, days like that don't happen often and to suggest that we should get rid of the man that is mainly responsible when we are in a decent position in a higher league is ridiculous. We have had good times under PDC and it could still get better. Changing subject slightly, look at the league table and look at the number of points teams have won at home this season. Very unusual, but apart from MK Dons, most teams have quite poor home records. COYMR ps sorry for the rant. Oxon-Red

9:01am Tue 11 Dec 12

swwindon61uk says...

I would like to see the team he started Saturday given a run,it looked good on paper and overall was good on the pitch.
I do not agree with what everything PDC says and does but i think he is a very good manager and will take us far.
I would like to see the team he started Saturday given a run,it looked good on paper and overall was good on the pitch. I do not agree with what everything PDC says and does but i think he is a very good manager and will take us far. swwindon61uk

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