Benson extends loan spell at Pompey (From Swindon Advertiser)

Come back Paul and show our strikers how to do it !

but they already know how to play 4 games without finding the net!! ;-)

They can trump the 4 days and add weeks....

They can trump the 4 days and add weeks....

Sir Fawn Maker wrote:
but they already know how to play 4 games without finding the net!! ;-)

This loan should give Benson a chance to build up some regular game time (which hasn't happened for him this seson), without the same pressure to win at all costs for promotion. It's always possible that under such circumstances that the goals might start flowing in from him again.


Meanwhile, provided that Ritchie & De Vita stay in form and keep smashing the goals in.. Williams, Collins & Rooney can keep making the team numbers up at 11 men.

Wish him well at Pompey,is a sad situation as our strikers including the loan one have a long way to go yet.
Still with players out on loan it hopefully free's up money for the club.
Just really wonder why he was sent out on loan????
maybe Pdc thought he was not up to his standard again is a mystery

Wish him well at Pompey,is a sad situation as our strikers including the loan one have a long way to go yet.
Still with players out on loan it hopefully free's up money for the club.
Just really wonder why he was sent out on loan????
maybe Pdc thought he was not up to his standard again is a mystery

Wish him well at Pompey,is a sad situation as our strikers including the loan one have a long way to go yet.
Still with players out on loan it hopefully free's up money for the club.
Just really wonder why he was sent out on loan????
maybe Pdc thought he was not up to his standard again is a mystery

To bring in Martin he had to loan out a striker, Collins or Williams were never going to be loaned out as they were the big summer signings. I would imagine PDC would have loved to send Rooney back but cant becuse of the loan agreement with Brum so unfortunately Benson was the only real choice.
Part of me does think that some of service that De Vita and Ritchie have been providing the last couple of games would have seen a Benson type player score 2 or 3 goals.

We need to find an experienced striker at the beginning (not end) of the Jan transfer window, who can do a job for us like Benson did last season. Benson's a good league 2 player, but has struggled this season in League 1.

Hopefully we can send Rooney back to Brum in Jan to free up some £'s and offload Martin too, if he doesn't start finding the net soon.

Yes it would be nice to have a clinical up front goal scorer, for sure if some of those 2 missed penalties, the numerous strikes that hit the woodwork, the failed 1on1's, great saves from point blank range from apposing goalies, if they had all gone in we would be top of the league by a country mile, but they didn't and don't think Benson (as much as i like his endevour) would have made much difference. I have a feeling martin is going to come good very soon and as long as we are up there with the best in the league with the 32 goals the team has scored to date, don't think we have too much to be complaining about. Clean sheets is the first criteria and we've not done too bad in that department either.

umpcah wrote:
Come back Paul and show our strikers how to do it !

Sadly, whilst being a huge fan of Benson and his professionalism all I saw this year was him a yard short of pace....same as Charlton where we got him from?...
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I wish him well and whilst he'd do no worse than the current strike force, in fact I'd have him back tomorrow to give us options BUT!....he isn't the future for 2013 and 2014...time to find a new alternative in January...Who!?..No bloomin idea!
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Good luck Paul and hope the young family are well.

AT least Benson can hold up the ball which stops it being booted straight back, looking at the stats Decanios scoring rate was only just above one in every five games although some were spectacular. If he lays of the players im sure they will come good, not if I miss this im going to be subbed. Lets hope we have a good christmas

Perhaps we should have swapped him for mccloed. Scored 10 this season and missed a few pens.
Or second thoughts keep benson sign mccloed and loan Williams to them
Everyone's a winner except Pompey

Where's sue?

Onwards and upwards

Benson is not a regular starter for Pompey at the wrong end of the table - so why would he be the answer to our problems? (same goes for the remarks about Connell - who rarely starts in L2)
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Jervis has actually taken his spot!
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PB went over 4 games ago and has NOT scored - did some miss that part?
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Yes he was a gent and a true professional - but that doesn't win you games
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David McGoldrick sounds like he could be available for a perm move in Jan - now that is a player we should be moving for if we are serious about promotion
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Likewise we should test Wolves on how much they want to keep Cassidy with a Cox type deal - big sell on and buy back included to tempt a sale now
.
Either of them would score goals and send us up the league - we are only a goalscorer short now our injuries have cleared up
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I don't think PdC should get more wages, our £4.5m budget is sufficient and we have room to wiggle with loans coming to an end and other being moved on etc
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However - outlay on players would not have been in that budget so that is where I think the board should show their commitment like they did last year in Jan - especially as a player like Cassidy is an investment which should make a veery decent return later on
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McLoed is not a bad shout either - shown he can step up with 10 in a poor Pompy side and is likely to be free as 18 players are out of contract in Jan at Pompey - sop no outlay needed
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As for PdC he was never a goalscorer but more of a creator - so looking just at his strike rate is not a true reflection of his input
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Beardsley didn't score that many but made most of Cole's 40+ goals in that golden season - showing his worth to the team

The christmas wish for every manager must be, can i have the best goal scorer.

Sadly everyone wants the best so they are hard to tempt away form their club, and the clubs are reluctent to let them go. Well would you.!!!!

Trial and error i'm afraid.

Nice post LR, and glad to see you back.

Sorry from their club.

London Red wrote:
Benson is not a regular starter for Pompey at the wrong end of the table - so why would he be the answer to our problems? (same goes for the remarks about Connell - who rarely starts in L2)
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Jervis has actually taken his spot!
.
PB went over 4 games ago and has NOT scored - did some miss that part?
.
Yes he was a gent and a true professional - but that doesn't win you games
.
David McGoldrick sounds like he could be available for a perm move in Jan - now that is a player we should be moving for if we are serious about promotion
.
Likewise we should test Wolves on how much they want to keep Cassidy with a Cox type deal - big sell on and buy back included to tempt a sale now
.
Either of them would score goals and send us up the league - we are only a goalscorer short now our injuries have cleared up
.
I don't think PdC should get more wages, our £4.5m budget is sufficient and we have room to wiggle with loans coming to an end and other being moved on etc
.
However - outlay on players would not have been in that budget so that is where I think the board should show their commitment like they did last year in Jan - especially as a player like Cassidy is an investment which should make a veery decent return later on
.
McLoed is not a bad shout either - shown he can step up with 10 in a poor Pompy side and is likely to be free as 18 players are out of contract in Jan at Pompey - sop no outlay needed
.
As for PdC he was never a goalscorer but more of a creator - so looking just at his strike rate is not a true reflection of his input
.
Beardsley didn't score that many but made most of Cole's 40+ goals in that golden season - showing his worth to the team

Hi london red dont think Mcloed is the answer as i have been on the pompy web site a few times and he seems to miss 6 to score 1 also missed 2 pens .Not a fans fav they seem to say the same as we do about Benson.

Angolan Red wrote:
AT least Benson can hold up the ball which stops it being booted straight back, looking at the stats Decanios scoring rate was only just above one in every five games although some were spectacular. If he lays of the players im sure they will come good, not if I miss this im going to be subbed. Lets hope we have a good christmas

Paolo Di canio also could spell his name at the age of 2 and tie his football boots up ,18 months and you still cant spell PAOLO DI CANIO that name again PAOLO DI CANIO one more time PAOLO DI CANIO NOW REPEAT....

jayden wrote:

London Red wrote:
Benson is not a regular starter for Pompey at the wrong end of the table - so why would he be the answer to our problems? (same goes for the remarks about Connell - who rarely starts in L2)
.
Jervis has actually taken his spot!
.
PB went over 4 games ago and has NOT scored - did some miss that part?
.
Yes he was a gent and a true professional - but that doesn't win you games
.
David McGoldrick sounds like he could be available for a perm move in Jan - now that is a player we should be moving for if we are serious about promotion
.
Likewise we should test Wolves on how much they want to keep Cassidy with a Cox type deal - big sell on and buy back included to tempt a sale now
.
Either of them would score goals and send us up the league - we are only a goalscorer short now our injuries have cleared up
.
I don't think PdC should get more wages, our £4.5m budget is sufficient and we have room to wiggle with loans coming to an end and other being moved on etc
.
However - outlay on players would not have been in that budget so that is where I think the board should show their commitment like they did last year in Jan - especially as a player like Cassidy is an investment which should make a veery decent return later on
.
McLoed is not a bad shout either - shown he can step up with 10 in a poor Pompy side and is likely to be free as 18 players are out of contract in Jan at Pompey - sop no outlay needed
.
As for PdC he was never a goalscorer but more of a creator - so looking just at his strike rate is not a true reflection of his input
.
Beardsley didn't score that many but made most of Cole's 40+ goals in that golden season - showing his worth to the team

Hi london red dont think Mcloed is the answer as i have been on the pompy web site a few times and he seems to miss 6 to score 1 also missed 2 pens .Not a fans fav they seem to say the same as we do about Benson.

Better than having 6 shots and scoring none as we have at the mo.
Onwards and upwards

smirg kcab wrote:

jayden wrote:

London Red wrote:
Benson is not a regular starter for Pompey at the wrong end of the table - so why would he be the answer to our problems? (same goes for the remarks about Connell - who rarely starts in L2)
.
Jervis has actually taken his spot!
.
PB went over 4 games ago and has NOT scored - did some miss that part?
.
Yes he was a gent and a true professional - but that doesn't win you games
.
David McGoldrick sounds like he could be available for a perm move in Jan - now that is a player we should be moving for if we are serious about promotion
.
Likewise we should test Wolves on how much they want to keep Cassidy with a Cox type deal - big sell on and buy back included to tempt a sale now
.
Either of them would score goals and send us up the league - we are only a goalscorer short now our injuries have cleared up
.
I don't think PdC should get more wages, our £4.5m budget is sufficient and we have room to wiggle with loans coming to an end and other being moved on etc
.
However - outlay on players would not have been in that budget so that is where I think the board should show their commitment like they did last year in Jan - especially as a player like Cassidy is an investment which should make a veery decent return later on
.
McLoed is not a bad shout either - shown he can step up with 10 in a poor Pompy side and is likely to be free as 18 players are out of contract in Jan at Pompey - sop no outlay needed
.
As for PdC he was never a goalscorer but more of a creator - so looking just at his strike rate is not a true reflection of his input
.
Beardsley didn't score that many but made most of Cole's 40+ goals in that golden season - showing his worth to the team

Hi london red dont think Mcloed is the answer as i have been on the pompy web site a few times and he seems to miss 6 to score 1 also missed 2 pens .Not a fans fav they seem to say the same as we do about Benson.

Better than having 6 shots and scoring none as we have at the mo.
Onwards and upwards

Still dont think hes much cop

we can win on friday against trannie, in PDC we trust...

COYMRs

smirg kcab wrote:

jayden wrote:

London Red wrote: Benson is not a regular starter for Pompey at the wrong end of the table - so why would he be the answer to our problems? (same goes for the remarks about Connell - who rarely starts in L2) . Jervis has actually taken his spot! . PB went over 4 games ago and has NOT scored - did some miss that part? . Yes he was a gent and a true professional - but that doesn't win you games . David McGoldrick sounds like he could be available for a perm move in Jan - now that is a player we should be moving for if we are serious about promotion . Likewise we should test Wolves on how much they want to keep Cassidy with a Cox type deal - big sell on and buy back included to tempt a sale now . Either of them would score goals and send us up the league - we are only a goalscorer short now our injuries have cleared up . I don't think PdC should get more wages, our £4.5m budget is sufficient and we have room to wiggle with loans coming to an end and other being moved on etc . However - outlay on players would not have been in that budget so that is where I think the board should show their commitment like they did last year in Jan - especially as a player like Cassidy is an investment which should make a veery decent return later on . McLoed is not a bad shout either - shown he can step up with 10 in a poor Pompy side and is likely to be free as 18 players are out of contract in Jan at Pompey - sop no outlay needed . As for PdC he was never a goalscorer but more of a creator - so looking just at his strike rate is not a true reflection of his input . Beardsley didn't score that many but made most of Cole's 40+ goals in that golden season - showing his worth to the team

Hi london red dont think Mcloed is the answer as i have been on the pompy web site a few times and he seems to miss 6 to score 1 also missed 2 pens .Not a fans fav they seem to say the same as we do about Benson.

Better than having 6 shots and scoring none as we have at the mo. Onwards and upwards

I am not sure that Collins has had 6 shots in the matches I have seen at home. If he had he would have score more.

Therein lies the problem IMO, decent goalscoring opportunities. Same applies to Benson and Williams, most chances at home have fallen the way of the midfield and defenders.

COYMR

smirg kcab wrote:

jayden wrote:

London Red wrote:
Benson is not a regular starter for Pompey at the wrong end of the table - so why would he be the answer to our problems? (same goes for the remarks about Connell - who rarely starts in L2)
.
Jervis has actually taken his spot!
.
PB went over 4 games ago and has NOT scored - did some miss that part?
.
Yes he was a gent and a true professional - but that doesn't win you games
.
David McGoldrick sounds like he could be available for a perm move in Jan - now that is a player we should be moving for if we are serious about promotion
.
Likewise we should test Wolves on how much they want to keep Cassidy with a Cox type deal - big sell on and buy back included to tempt a sale now
.
Either of them would score goals and send us up the league - we are only a goalscorer short now our injuries have cleared up
.
I don't think PdC should get more wages, our £4.5m budget is sufficient and we have room to wiggle with loans coming to an end and other being moved on etc
.
However - outlay on players would not have been in that budget so that is where I think the board should show their commitment like they did last year in Jan - especially as a player like Cassidy is an investment which should make a veery decent return later on
.
McLoed is not a bad shout either - shown he can step up with 10 in a poor Pompy side and is likely to be free as 18 players are out of contract in Jan at Pompey - sop no outlay needed
.
As for PdC he was never a goalscorer but more of a creator - so looking just at his strike rate is not a true reflection of his input
.
Beardsley didn't score that many but made most of Cole's 40+ goals in that golden season - showing his worth to the team

Hi london red dont think Mcloed is the answer as i have been on the pompy web site a few times and he seems to miss 6 to score 1 also missed 2 pens .Not a fans fav they seem to say the same as we do about Benson.

Better than having 6 shots and scoring none as we have at the mo.
Onwards and upwards

Yep the cows arse with a banjo two !

I'll only be back for football topics - felt much better staying clear of the in house fighthing
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It could be down to instinct - some simply have the knack of being in the right place at the right time - Austin has not simply had far superior build up play everywhere he's been - he just knows where to be to cause damage
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Think Collins could develop some of that knack via training as he has "popped" up a few times
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Personally I would swap RDV and Williams and see what RDV and Martin can do
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RDV knows where the net is and Williams can run - could set a few up that way like he did for Ritchie against Donny
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If Martin doesn't do much between now and Pompey - then send him back as part of the wage shuffle to land a decent striker - even if that means spending big

Malkym wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:

jayden wrote:

London Red wrote: Benson is not a regular starter for Pompey at the wrong end of the table - so why would he be the answer to our problems? (same goes for the remarks about Connell - who rarely starts in L2) . Jervis has actually taken his spot! . PB went over 4 games ago and has NOT scored - did some miss that part? . Yes he was a gent and a true professional - but that doesn't win you games . David McGoldrick sounds like he could be available for a perm move in Jan - now that is a player we should be moving for if we are serious about promotion . Likewise we should test Wolves on how much they want to keep Cassidy with a Cox type deal - big sell on and buy back included to tempt a sale now . Either of them would score goals and send us up the league - we are only a goalscorer short now our injuries have cleared up . I don't think PdC should get more wages, our £4.5m budget is sufficient and we have room to wiggle with loans coming to an end and other being moved on etc . However - outlay on players would not have been in that budget so that is where I think the board should show their commitment like they did last year in Jan - especially as a player like Cassidy is an investment which should make a veery decent return later on . McLoed is not a bad shout either - shown he can step up with 10 in a poor Pompy side and is likely to be free as 18 players are out of contract in Jan at Pompey - sop no outlay needed . As for PdC he was never a goalscorer but more of a creator - so looking just at his strike rate is not a true reflection of his input . Beardsley didn't score that many but made most of Cole's 40+ goals in that golden season - showing his worth to the team

Hi london red dont think Mcloed is the answer as i have been on the pompy web site a few times and he seems to miss 6 to score 1 also missed 2 pens .Not a fans fav they seem to say the same as we do about Benson.

Better than having 6 shots and scoring none as we have at the mo. Onwards and upwards

Yep the cows arse with a banjo two !

Question for Malkym and Others.

What would a be a reasonable goals to shots percentage be ?

COYMR

The debate about our strikers will run and run. In defence of our front men (all of them) I suggest that our tactics for much of the season are to blame as much as poor finishing or poor midfield performance. A lot of our football has been "direct", i.e. whack the ball upfield and see who wins the possession lottery.
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In the 9 games before Eddie Howe left Burnley, Charlie Austin scored 14 goals. Sean Dyche arrived in the management hotseat, tightened the defence and adopted a direct" (whack it to Austin) approach. In the 9 games since Howe's departure, Austin has scored 3 goals, but Burnley have stemmed the tide at the back. (Thanks to Chris Dunlavy of the Football League Paper for the info.)
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Those masters of the dark art of direct football, Stoke City, have scored only 15 league goals this season but they are not doing too badly, having lost only 3 games.
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Admittedly, most statistics can be manipulated to support any argument, but before rushing to condemn our strikers I reckon we should bear in mind that our tactics have often been more likely to produce clean sheets than a hatful of goals for us. (Hope dreamofacleansheet approves!)

Oi Den! wrote:
The debate about our strikers will run and run. In defence of our front men (all of them) I suggest that our tactics for much of the season are to blame as much as poor finishing or poor midfield performance. A lot of our football has been "direct", i.e. whack the ball upfield and see who wins the possession lottery. . In the 9 games before Eddie Howe left Burnley, Charlie Austin scored 14 goals. Sean Dyche arrived in the management hotseat, tightened the defence and adopted a direct" (whack it to Austin) approach. In the 9 games since Howe's departure, Austin has scored 3 goals, but Burnley have stemmed the tide at the back. (Thanks to Chris Dunlavy of the Football League Paper for the info.) . Those masters of the dark art of direct football, Stoke City, have scored only 15 league goals this season but they are not doing too badly, having lost only 3 games. . Admittedly, most statistics can be manipulated to support any argument, but before rushing to condemn our strikers I reckon we should bear in mind that our tactics have often been more likely to produce clean sheets than a hatful of goals for us. (Hope dreamofacleansheet approves!)

Good points Den.

Stats at home for our 4 main Strikers in the 11 games:

Benson 2 attempts no goals.
Collins 17 attempts 4 goals
Williams 14 attempts 2 goals
Rooney 6 attempts 1 goal.

Total attempts by all players 108.

Total attempts by the strikers = 33

Average attempts per game by the strikers = 3

Total home goals = 16

Most attempts on goal by Matt Ritchie.

Striker's hit ratio roughly 1 in 5.
Overall hit ratio roughly 1 in 7.

COYMR

jayden wrote:

smirg kcab wrote:

jayden wrote:

London Red wrote:
Benson is not a regular starter for Pompey at the wrong end of the table - so why would he be the answer to our problems? (same goes for the remarks about Connell - who rarely starts in L2)
.
Jervis has actually taken his spot!
.
PB went over 4 games ago and has NOT scored - did some miss that part?
.
Yes he was a gent and a true professional - but that doesn't win you games
.
David McGoldrick sounds like he could be available for a perm move in Jan - now that is a player we should be moving for if we are serious about promotion
.
Likewise we should test Wolves on how much they want to keep Cassidy with a Cox type deal - big sell on and buy back included to tempt a sale now
.
Either of them would score goals and send us up the league - we are only a goalscorer short now our injuries have cleared up
.
I don't think PdC should get more wages, our £4.5m budget is sufficient and we have room to wiggle with loans coming to an end and other being moved on etc
.
However - outlay on players would not have been in that budget so that is where I think the board should show their commitment like they did last year in Jan - especially as a player like Cassidy is an investment which should make a veery decent return later on
.
McLoed is not a bad shout either - shown he can step up with 10 in a poor Pompy side and is likely to be free as 18 players are out of contract in Jan at Pompey - sop no outlay needed
.
As for PdC he was never a goalscorer but more of a creator - so looking just at his strike rate is not a true reflection of his input
.
Beardsley didn't score that many but made most of Cole's 40+ goals in that golden season - showing his worth to the team

Hi london red dont think Mcloed is the answer as i have been on the pompy web site a few times and he seems to miss 6 to score 1 also missed 2 pens .Not a fans fav they seem to say the same as we do about Benson.

Better than having 6 shots and scoring none as we have at the mo.
Onwards and upwards

Still dont think hes much cop

Ah i got it wrong i was thinking of the 1970 cop show.