Di Canio calls for transfer backing

PLEA: Paolo Di Canio

PLEA: Paolo Di Canio

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PAOLO Di Canio has urged Swindon Town majority shareholder Andrew Black to give him the financial backing he needs in the January transfer window.

After freeing up the funds necessary to take Town out of embargo earlier this season, Black has not increased Di Canio’s new year budget and, on the back of the 5-0 drubbing of Portsmouth yesterday, the Italian publicly asked the money man to release further funds to help him mould a squad capable of promotion from League One.

Di Canio is targeting two new signings this month, and also wants to hold onto the on-loan quartet of Danny Hollands, Chris Martin, Darren Ward and John Bostock, but to do so he requires extra cash to that which is currently at his disposal. He said: “If I was Andrew Black and I was here today I would say, ‘Paolo, here is the money, oh mamma mia’.

“But I am not Andrew Black and I cannot work double trouble four times or five times to take out something more. He already did a really good job, it is clear, but I would say, ‘don’t let me listen to voices around me’.

“We are there, there is not any insurance even if we spend £20million for us to get promotion, but (we want) to keep those players.

“Not only today, but for the way we arrive in this moment with two games in hand, but there are 20 games left.

“I would say ‘shut your mouth, shut your mouth. Paolo, absolutely. This is for you, let me enjoy’.

“Then at the end if we don’t go up he can kick my bottom. But in this moment I think about it and I hope, but I don’t count on help from the board and I do things my own way.

“If it comes, it will be fantastic for everybody. It is difficult, it is really difficult and I have to go through people who do not want this, but it is the situation.

“I didn’t give up because I know and we are sure in the situation, but we have to keep the base we have and we can have a good satisfaction.

“Two months ago we were a team, but in the last three weeks we became a team, a group, which is better. We can be the rest of the season this team because they are more mature.”

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6:10am Wed 2 Jan 13

Andy Evo says...

I think the club should invest..............
....................
......in a translator! :)
I think the club should invest.............. .................... ......in a translator! :) Andy Evo
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6:37am Wed 2 Jan 13

bowralbob says...

If the club is to be sold it would be worth much more to Mr. Black if we get promoted. So Mr. Black may wish to dip into his pocket yet again?
If the club is to be sold it would be worth much more to Mr. Black if we get promoted. So Mr. Black may wish to dip into his pocket yet again? bowralbob
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7:02am Wed 2 Jan 13

killerontheloose says...

Mate, you've just won the last 2 games 5-0 , why do you need to invest any more..........might be the response!
Mate, you've just won the last 2 games 5-0 , why do you need to invest any more..........might be the response! killerontheloose
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7:11am Wed 2 Jan 13

ciclosporindorset says...

I never heard the news on Saturday. Is AB and tyhe other inverstors going to sell all their shares in the club then?
I never heard the news on Saturday. Is AB and tyhe other inverstors going to sell all their shares in the club then? ciclosporindorset
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7:21am Wed 2 Jan 13

Since 1950 says...

From what the chairman was saying last night on BBC Wilts it sounds like andrew black wants out. His view on the future, Town in the championship under new owners and investors. Ground redevelopment seems to be out of the equasion. There was even a hint at the 'A' word. If I were Paolo I wouldn't hold my breath for that money. I think it's a difficult few months ahead of us.
From what the chairman was saying last night on BBC Wilts it sounds like andrew black wants out. His view on the future, Town in the championship under new owners and investors. Ground redevelopment seems to be out of the equasion. There was even a hint at the 'A' word. If I were Paolo I wouldn't hold my breath for that money. I think it's a difficult few months ahead of us. Since 1950
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7:29am Wed 2 Jan 13

Chish and Fips says...

- 'All the aboard the Roller Coaster' here we go again... hang on to your hats !
- 'All the aboard the Roller Coaster' here we go again... hang on to your hats ! Chish and Fips
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7:46am Wed 2 Jan 13

louiscassius says...

Oh My God!!!

I just blummin knew this was to good to be true.........

Well, i dont think i wanna read anymore, looks like 2013's going to be a horrible year now.....

Board clears off, Administration looms.......Paolo goes...... new manager like Buckle or someone.....relegate
d from League 1 in season 2013/14.....brillian
t!!!

Thats not like Swindon is it....much!!

Why oh Why cant something stay right for us.........

My heart sank this morning reading this post.....felt amazing yesterday, now i just wanna close the PC down and go cry somewhere and scream at the blummin board........

Sometimes, just sometimes i really hate football :-((((((

COYR'ssssssssssssss

Whereever we'll be or end up......

Louis :-((((((((((((((((((
(((
Oh My God!!! I just blummin knew this was to good to be true......... Well, i dont think i wanna read anymore, looks like 2013's going to be a horrible year now..... Board clears off, Administration looms.......Paolo goes...... new manager like Buckle or someone.....relegate d from League 1 in season 2013/14.....brillian t!!! Thats not like Swindon is it....much!! Why oh Why cant something stay right for us......... My heart sank this morning reading this post.....felt amazing yesterday, now i just wanna close the PC down and go cry somewhere and scream at the blummin board........ Sometimes, just sometimes i really hate football :-(((((( COYR'ssssssssssssss Whereever we'll be or end up...... Louis :-(((((((((((((((((( ((( louiscassius
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8:09am Wed 2 Jan 13

bowralbob says...

An internet search suggests Mr. Black's fortune has decreased by some 50 odd million pounds since 2009. He apparently still has a net worth in excess of 125 million pounds so he is still VERY rich.
It would be nice to have some stability at the club right now, but alas after Mr. Patey's BBC Wilts interview regarding the clubs future it would appear to be tactical move by him. Probably to lower PDC's demands and a flag to overseas investors that the club is up for grabs at a knock down price.
An internet search suggests Mr. Black's fortune has decreased by some 50 odd million pounds since 2009. He apparently still has a net worth in excess of 125 million pounds so he is still VERY rich. It would be nice to have some stability at the club right now, but alas after Mr. Patey's BBC Wilts interview regarding the clubs future it would appear to be tactical move by him. Probably to lower PDC's demands and a flag to overseas investors that the club is up for grabs at a knock down price. bowralbob
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8:19am Wed 2 Jan 13

mallorca says...

I guess we should not jump to conclusions.Yet as said after hearing the Chairmans Radio interview just messed up the day even though we had a super wim.
It's clear this guy has come in to try and sell the club and with all his talk about investors etc plus what he came out with when asked about administration it did not come accross very well.
As for funds for pdc that for sure is a no no he made that clear.
What amazes me we were all lead to believe we had a very rich backer however now the pot is empty.
Looks as if the major investor wants out
This could only happen to Swindon Town,I just hope that all this is rumours yet you get the feeling since this new chairman arrived something has not been right
I guess we should not jump to conclusions.Yet as said after hearing the Chairmans Radio interview just messed up the day even though we had a super wim. It's clear this guy has come in to try and sell the club and with all his talk about investors etc plus what he came out with when asked about administration it did not come accross very well. As for funds for pdc that for sure is a no no he made that clear. What amazes me we were all lead to believe we had a very rich backer however now the pot is empty. Looks as if the major investor wants out This could only happen to Swindon Town,I just hope that all this is rumours yet you get the feeling since this new chairman arrived something has not been right mallorca
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8:24am Wed 2 Jan 13

jayden says...

No need to panic Pdc is only doing what most managers are afraid to do keep the board on their toes i realy think he knows there is no more money but the saying goes "if you dont ask you dont get.Mr Black has made it clear for sometime he has had enough of bankrolling the club for that we are truly thankfull .Mr Black will not just pull out he will lose to much money but if we do get to the next level we will need a lot of money invested and Mr Black is not the one to do this this is why SWP was brought in and is being paid to do this job.It is clear that something is amiss behind the story but i felt that the media tried to make more of both Pdc and SWP comments.
No need to panic Pdc is only doing what most managers are afraid to do keep the board on their toes i realy think he knows there is no more money but the saying goes "if you dont ask you dont get.Mr Black has made it clear for sometime he has had enough of bankrolling the club for that we are truly thankfull .Mr Black will not just pull out he will lose to much money but if we do get to the next level we will need a lot of money invested and Mr Black is not the one to do this this is why SWP was brought in and is being paid to do this job.It is clear that something is amiss behind the story but i felt that the media tried to make more of both Pdc and SWP comments. jayden
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8:49am Wed 2 Jan 13

LeGod says...

There is no doubt Patey has been brought in to bring in more investment and Wray even mentioned a few times the club were looking to do that and the best time to do it is when the club is on the up as we are at the moment.

On the pitch i still dont think there is any team better than us in this league when we get the ball down and get our wide men involved from the start. The movement of our strikers is terriffic as they make the opposing back four work hard but where we are poor is as we did in the first half yesterday and played the opposition game and kept feeding balls to the two biggest players on the pitch which was there two centre backs. Paolo's team talk and changes were crying out to be made as Hollands and Miller are too similar and Ferry is by far our most creative player in the middle and he changed the game when he came on. Good to see Roberts as well look more confident and i feel he is going to kick on now this year.
Back to the chairman and i dont see him as the same sort of friendly character as JW he is in at the club on a mission to sell or get investors.
There is no doubt Patey has been brought in to bring in more investment and Wray even mentioned a few times the club were looking to do that and the best time to do it is when the club is on the up as we are at the moment. On the pitch i still dont think there is any team better than us in this league when we get the ball down and get our wide men involved from the start. The movement of our strikers is terriffic as they make the opposing back four work hard but where we are poor is as we did in the first half yesterday and played the opposition game and kept feeding balls to the two biggest players on the pitch which was there two centre backs. Paolo's team talk and changes were crying out to be made as Hollands and Miller are too similar and Ferry is by far our most creative player in the middle and he changed the game when he came on. Good to see Roberts as well look more confident and i feel he is going to kick on now this year. Back to the chairman and i dont see him as the same sort of friendly character as JW he is in at the club on a mission to sell or get investors. LeGod
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8:54am Wed 2 Jan 13

fredi says...

I don't think it is time to panic - yet. It does appear on the surface that Patey has been brought in to sell the club for Black. Yet while Patey comes across as somewhat dour and not very football savvy, he is surely no idiot and both men have their reputations to protect. He has said several times that the three year plan is intact and that even if we don't go up this season the budget for next year is in place. He would look pretty stupid if he had to take those words back since it would suggest either he had lied to the fans or Black had lied to him - hardly likely.

Think PdC is applying a little common sense and pressure at the same time...if next year's budget is secure and you ultimately want to secure the value of being in the Championship why wait....spend a little on reinforcements now to achieve your goal a year early.....we have played everyone now in this league and there is nobody to fear.
I don't think it is time to panic - yet. It does appear on the surface that Patey has been brought in to sell the club for Black. Yet while Patey comes across as somewhat dour and not very football savvy, he is surely no idiot and both men have their reputations to protect. He has said several times that the three year plan is intact and that even if we don't go up this season the budget for next year is in place. He would look pretty stupid if he had to take those words back since it would suggest either he had lied to the fans or Black had lied to him - hardly likely. Think PdC is applying a little common sense and pressure at the same time...if next year's budget is secure and you ultimately want to secure the value of being in the Championship why wait....spend a little on reinforcements now to achieve your goal a year early.....we have played everyone now in this league and there is nobody to fear. fredi
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9:01am Wed 2 Jan 13

old town robin says...

I think the board has said for a long time that any new development would be dependant on a new investor coming in that specialises in property. Based on comments from others of Sir WP's interview (which I have not heard), it would seem he has not yet found any interested party. So nothing new there then, if he can't find anyone to share in a business plan with Mr Black, then it would seem selling the club for the right price would be the best way for him to get his money back. Can't see that happening before the end of the season with only 10 home games left all will become clear when we know what level we are deemed to play next season.

As for getting more money to bring in two more loanees, as Paolo has said already he will go it alone if it is not forthcoming and that probably means some have to go out before two can come in. Personally I would prefer him to concentrate on keeping the 4 we have, Jay is also on his way back, so defensive cover is not so critical and if we lose Chris Martin then he already has a target in mind with Madine.

So very little change in January would be my guess.
I think the board has said for a long time that any new development would be dependant on a new investor coming in that specialises in property. Based on comments from others of Sir WP's interview (which I have not heard), it would seem he has not yet found any interested party. So nothing new there then, if he can't find anyone to share in a business plan with Mr Black, then it would seem selling the club for the right price would be the best way for him to get his money back. Can't see that happening before the end of the season with only 10 home games left all will become clear when we know what level we are deemed to play next season. As for getting more money to bring in two more loanees, as Paolo has said already he will go it alone if it is not forthcoming and that probably means some have to go out before two can come in. Personally I would prefer him to concentrate on keeping the 4 we have, Jay is also on his way back, so defensive cover is not so critical and if we lose Chris Martin then he already has a target in mind with Madine. So very little change in January would be my guess. old town robin
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9:20am Wed 2 Jan 13

old town robin says...

LeGod wrote:
There is no doubt Patey has been brought in to bring in more investment and Wray even mentioned a few times the club were looking to do that and the best time to do it is when the club is on the up as we are at the moment.

On the pitch i still dont think there is any team better than us in this league when we get the ball down and get our wide men involved from the start. The movement of our strikers is terriffic as they make the opposing back four work hard but where we are poor is as we did in the first half yesterday and played the opposition game and kept feeding balls to the two biggest players on the pitch which was there two centre backs. Paolo's team talk and changes were crying out to be made as Hollands and Miller are too similar and Ferry is by far our most creative player in the middle and he changed the game when he came on. Good to see Roberts as well look more confident and i feel he is going to kick on now this year.
Back to the chairman and i dont see him as the same sort of friendly character as JW he is in at the club on a mission to sell or get investors.
Good post LeGod, I think you'r right on Miller and Holland being similar, they even look a bit the same. First choice would be Holland for me with Ferry edging it over Bostock for the other mid-field spot.

Don't know what was wrong with De Vita yesterday, it was no surprise to see him hauled off at half time, will Roberts start against Carlisle, did enough yesterday to justify a start especially if Di Vita is not 100% a rest might do him good.

Thought the yellow card count was a bit harsh, if we got three surely they deserved the same. Overall the ref did OK, but a bit too quick pulling out the card, although it has to be said their "injured" players did make a meal of being fouled, fair play to their supporters who kept on cheering their team, even when 0-5 down. they will go down, but hope they bounce back when they get their finances sorted.
[quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: There is no doubt Patey has been brought in to bring in more investment and Wray even mentioned a few times the club were looking to do that and the best time to do it is when the club is on the up as we are at the moment. On the pitch i still dont think there is any team better than us in this league when we get the ball down and get our wide men involved from the start. The movement of our strikers is terriffic as they make the opposing back four work hard but where we are poor is as we did in the first half yesterday and played the opposition game and kept feeding balls to the two biggest players on the pitch which was there two centre backs. Paolo's team talk and changes were crying out to be made as Hollands and Miller are too similar and Ferry is by far our most creative player in the middle and he changed the game when he came on. Good to see Roberts as well look more confident and i feel he is going to kick on now this year. Back to the chairman and i dont see him as the same sort of friendly character as JW he is in at the club on a mission to sell or get investors.[/p][/quote]Good post LeGod, I think you'r right on Miller and Holland being similar, they even look a bit the same. First choice would be Holland for me with Ferry edging it over Bostock for the other mid-field spot. Don't know what was wrong with De Vita yesterday, it was no surprise to see him hauled off at half time, will Roberts start against Carlisle, did enough yesterday to justify a start especially if Di Vita is not 100% a rest might do him good. Thought the yellow card count was a bit harsh, if we got three surely they deserved the same. Overall the ref did OK, but a bit too quick pulling out the card, although it has to be said their "injured" players did make a meal of being fouled, fair play to their supporters who kept on cheering their team, even when 0-5 down. they will go down, but hope they bounce back when they get their finances sorted. old town robin
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9:23am Wed 2 Jan 13

Blazing Riff says...

louiscassius wrote:
Oh My God!!!

I just blummin knew this was to good to be true.........

Well, i dont think i wanna read anymore, looks like 2013's going to be a horrible year now.....

Board clears off, Administration looms.......Paolo goes...... new manager like Buckle or someone.....relegate

d from League 1 in season 2013/14.....brillian

t!!!

Thats not like Swindon is it....much!!

Why oh Why cant something stay right for us.........

My heart sank this morning reading this post.....felt amazing yesterday, now i just wanna close the PC down and go cry somewhere and scream at the blummin board........

Sometimes, just sometimes i really hate football :-((((((

COYR'ssssssssssssss

Whereever we'll be or end up......

Louis :-((((((((((((((((((

(((
Don't panic Mr. louiscassius! If it helps, read my post towards the end of yesterdays live thread. It's only my interpretation and opinion of course but I doubt it's too far off. Paolo's only doing what comes naturally and Sir WP's only doing what's been asked of him. We're not in a bad place, have a great manager, great squad, fantastic supportors (but everyone try to recruit more as this will help the finances) and, despite the occasional hiccup, are going places!
[quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote: Oh My God!!! I just blummin knew this was to good to be true......... Well, i dont think i wanna read anymore, looks like 2013's going to be a horrible year now..... Board clears off, Administration looms.......Paolo goes...... new manager like Buckle or someone.....relegate d from League 1 in season 2013/14.....brillian t!!! Thats not like Swindon is it....much!! Why oh Why cant something stay right for us......... My heart sank this morning reading this post.....felt amazing yesterday, now i just wanna close the PC down and go cry somewhere and scream at the blummin board........ Sometimes, just sometimes i really hate football :-(((((( COYR'ssssssssssssss Whereever we'll be or end up...... Louis :-(((((((((((((((((( ((([/p][/quote]Don't panic Mr. louiscassius! If it helps, read my post towards the end of yesterdays live thread. It's only my interpretation and opinion of course but I doubt it's too far off. Paolo's only doing what comes naturally and Sir WP's only doing what's been asked of him. We're not in a bad place, have a great manager, great squad, fantastic supportors (but everyone try to recruit more as this will help the finances) and, despite the occasional hiccup, are going places! Blazing Riff
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9:44am Wed 2 Jan 13

Robinonfire says...

Red Or Black....that is the question.
Red Or Black....that is the question. Robinonfire
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9:48am Wed 2 Jan 13

SAPFanSTFC says...

louiscassius wrote:
Oh My God!!!

I just blummin knew this was to good to be true.........

Well, i dont think i wanna read anymore, looks like 2013's going to be a horrible year now.....

Board clears off, Administration looms.......Paolo goes...... new manager like Buckle or someone.....relegate

d from League 1 in season 2013/14.....brillian

t!!!

Thats not like Swindon is it....much!!

Why oh Why cant something stay right for us.........

My heart sank this morning reading this post.....felt amazing yesterday, now i just wanna close the PC down and go cry somewhere and scream at the blummin board........

Sometimes, just sometimes i really hate football :-((((((

COYR'ssssssssssssss

Whereever we'll be or end up......

Louis :-((((((((((((((((((

(((
Hi there Louis,...Happy New Year to you.
---.
Going back to when he came in I put up a few posts proffering the 'Real' reasons why Patey was here and explaining how his background sits with where this club is....as per the norm at the time it was mocked by some and doubted by many.
---.
This certainly isn't an - 'I told you so' post but more of a sit up, take note and understand the real undertones to the club....and how difficult it is day to day for Paolo now.
.
This is why I was convinced that Paolo would walk (they can't afford to get rid of him), fortunately for us Paolo is a proud man and VERY loyal to his players and to the fans...week on week I expected to hear the fateful news but fortunately he won't be going anywhere now and will prove the doubters wrong.
.
I was lucky enough to talk to J-Wray for quite some time when he was behind us at the Villa match and he still feels sad for Paolo and confirmed all suspicions of what Paolo is going to have to deal with day-to-day.
.
Patey is here to sell the club and no more...he isn't the football guru that everyone hoped, he is a redundant ambassador who specialises in middle to far East contacts...why!?
...
Black's money is largely tied up in stocks and shares etc. since mid 2010 he has, like many business men, lost over 60% of his paper value hence his worth of £350 million is nowhere near these days and it is all getting closer to being too expensive to run a football club.
...
Let's take a leaf out of Pompey's book and give him and the players our 100% support and lets make it more vocal and make Patey's job that bit harder from a 'Wind up Paolo' point of view...as I'm sure that's what he's also charged with.
---.
GET THOSE SCARFS OUT & lets show OUR commitment to PDC and the team.
===.
Final note....if Black can afford to keep paying Patey and his daily fees on top of the undoubted fee for the sale of the club then he can afford to see us through to the summer.
.
...we're in a good state to be bought out though...rising high, big name manager, good book value of the players we have - 4th highest average attendance in League 1 and an excellent squad mentality who could do well in the Championship.
.
Swindon til I die!!
[quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote: Oh My God!!! I just blummin knew this was to good to be true......... Well, i dont think i wanna read anymore, looks like 2013's going to be a horrible year now..... Board clears off, Administration looms.......Paolo goes...... new manager like Buckle or someone.....relegate d from League 1 in season 2013/14.....brillian t!!! Thats not like Swindon is it....much!! Why oh Why cant something stay right for us......... My heart sank this morning reading this post.....felt amazing yesterday, now i just wanna close the PC down and go cry somewhere and scream at the blummin board........ Sometimes, just sometimes i really hate football :-(((((( COYR'ssssssssssssss Whereever we'll be or end up...... Louis :-(((((((((((((((((( ((([/p][/quote]Hi there Louis,...Happy New Year to you. ---. Going back to when he came in I put up a few posts proffering the 'Real' reasons why Patey was here and explaining how his background sits with where this club is....as per the norm at the time it was mocked by some and doubted by many. ---. This certainly isn't an - 'I told you so' post but more of a sit up, take note and understand the real undertones to the club....and how difficult it is day to day for Paolo now. . This is why I was convinced that Paolo would walk (they can't afford to get rid of him), fortunately for us Paolo is a proud man and VERY loyal to his players and to the fans...week on week I expected to hear the fateful news but fortunately he won't be going anywhere now and will prove the doubters wrong. . I was lucky enough to talk to J-Wray for quite some time when he was behind us at the Villa match and he still feels sad for Paolo and confirmed all suspicions of what Paolo is going to have to deal with day-to-day. . Patey is here to sell the club and no more...he isn't the football guru that everyone hoped, he is a redundant ambassador who specialises in middle to far East contacts...why!? ... Black's money is largely tied up in stocks and shares etc. since mid 2010 he has, like many business men, lost over 60% of his paper value hence his worth of £350 million is nowhere near these days and it is all getting closer to being too expensive to run a football club. ... Let's take a leaf out of Pompey's book and give him and the players our 100% support and lets make it more vocal and make Patey's job that bit harder from a 'Wind up Paolo' point of view...as I'm sure that's what he's also charged with. ---. GET THOSE SCARFS OUT & lets show OUR commitment to PDC and the team. ===. Final note....if Black can afford to keep paying Patey and his daily fees on top of the undoubted fee for the sale of the club then he can afford to see us through to the summer. . ...we're in a good state to be bought out though...rising high, big name manager, good book value of the players we have - 4th highest average attendance in League 1 and an excellent squad mentality who could do well in the Championship. . Swindon til I die!! SAPFanSTFC
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9:51am Wed 2 Jan 13

the don69 says...

Robinonfire wrote:
Red Or Black....that is the question.
Don't put it all on Black!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Robinonfire[/bold] wrote: Red Or Black....that is the question.[/p][/quote]Don't put it all on Black!!!!!!!!!!!! the don69
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10:00am Wed 2 Jan 13

jayden says...

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
louiscassius wrote:
Oh My God!!!

I just blummin knew this was to good to be true.........

Well, i dont think i wanna read anymore, looks like 2013's going to be a horrible year now.....

Board clears off, Administration looms.......Paolo goes...... new manager like Buckle or someone.....relegate


d from League 1 in season 2013/14.....brillian


t!!!

Thats not like Swindon is it....much!!

Why oh Why cant something stay right for us.........

My heart sank this morning reading this post.....felt amazing yesterday, now i just wanna close the PC down and go cry somewhere and scream at the blummin board........

Sometimes, just sometimes i really hate football :-((((((

COYR'ssssssssssssss

Whereever we'll be or end up......

Louis :-((((((((((((((((((


(((
Hi there Louis,...Happy New Year to you.
---.
Going back to when he came in I put up a few posts proffering the 'Real' reasons why Patey was here and explaining how his background sits with where this club is....as per the norm at the time it was mocked by some and doubted by many.
---.
This certainly isn't an - 'I told you so' post but more of a sit up, take note and understand the real undertones to the club....and how difficult it is day to day for Paolo now.
.
This is why I was convinced that Paolo would walk (they can't afford to get rid of him), fortunately for us Paolo is a proud man and VERY loyal to his players and to the fans...week on week I expected to hear the fateful news but fortunately he won't be going anywhere now and will prove the doubters wrong.
.
I was lucky enough to talk to J-Wray for quite some time when he was behind us at the Villa match and he still feels sad for Paolo and confirmed all suspicions of what Paolo is going to have to deal with day-to-day.
.
Patey is here to sell the club and no more...he isn't the football guru that everyone hoped, he is a redundant ambassador who specialises in middle to far East contacts...why!?
...
Black's money is largely tied up in stocks and shares etc. since mid 2010 he has, like many business men, lost over 60% of his paper value hence his worth of £350 million is nowhere near these days and it is all getting closer to being too expensive to run a football club.
...
Let's take a leaf out of Pompey's book and give him and the players our 100% support and lets make it more vocal and make Patey's job that bit harder from a 'Wind up Paolo' point of view...as I'm sure that's what he's also charged with.
---.
GET THOSE SCARFS OUT & lets show OUR commitment to PDC and the team.
===.
Final note....if Black can afford to keep paying Patey and his daily fees on top of the undoubted fee for the sale of the club then he can afford to see us through to the summer.
.
...we're in a good state to be bought out though...rising high, big name manager, good book value of the players we have - 4th highest average attendance in League 1 and an excellent squad mentality who could do well in the Championship.
.
Swindon til I die!!
Well said that man and yes a bit more noise at the cg would be welcome.
[quote][p][bold]SAPFanSTFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote: Oh My God!!! I just blummin knew this was to good to be true......... Well, i dont think i wanna read anymore, looks like 2013's going to be a horrible year now..... Board clears off, Administration looms.......Paolo goes...... new manager like Buckle or someone.....relegate d from League 1 in season 2013/14.....brillian t!!! Thats not like Swindon is it....much!! Why oh Why cant something stay right for us......... My heart sank this morning reading this post.....felt amazing yesterday, now i just wanna close the PC down and go cry somewhere and scream at the blummin board........ Sometimes, just sometimes i really hate football :-(((((( COYR'ssssssssssssss Whereever we'll be or end up...... Louis :-(((((((((((((((((( ((([/p][/quote]Hi there Louis,...Happy New Year to you. ---. Going back to when he came in I put up a few posts proffering the 'Real' reasons why Patey was here and explaining how his background sits with where this club is....as per the norm at the time it was mocked by some and doubted by many. ---. This certainly isn't an - 'I told you so' post but more of a sit up, take note and understand the real undertones to the club....and how difficult it is day to day for Paolo now. . This is why I was convinced that Paolo would walk (they can't afford to get rid of him), fortunately for us Paolo is a proud man and VERY loyal to his players and to the fans...week on week I expected to hear the fateful news but fortunately he won't be going anywhere now and will prove the doubters wrong. . I was lucky enough to talk to J-Wray for quite some time when he was behind us at the Villa match and he still feels sad for Paolo and confirmed all suspicions of what Paolo is going to have to deal with day-to-day. . Patey is here to sell the club and no more...he isn't the football guru that everyone hoped, he is a redundant ambassador who specialises in middle to far East contacts...why!? ... Black's money is largely tied up in stocks and shares etc. since mid 2010 he has, like many business men, lost over 60% of his paper value hence his worth of £350 million is nowhere near these days and it is all getting closer to being too expensive to run a football club. ... Let's take a leaf out of Pompey's book and give him and the players our 100% support and lets make it more vocal and make Patey's job that bit harder from a 'Wind up Paolo' point of view...as I'm sure that's what he's also charged with. ---. GET THOSE SCARFS OUT & lets show OUR commitment to PDC and the team. ===. Final note....if Black can afford to keep paying Patey and his daily fees on top of the undoubted fee for the sale of the club then he can afford to see us through to the summer. . ...we're in a good state to be bought out though...rising high, big name manager, good book value of the players we have - 4th highest average attendance in League 1 and an excellent squad mentality who could do well in the Championship. . Swindon til I die!![/p][/quote]Well said that man and yes a bit more noise at the cg would be welcome. jayden
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10:03am Wed 2 Jan 13

Wilesy says...

Blazing Riff wrote:
louiscassius wrote: Oh My God!!! I just blummin knew this was to good to be true......... Well, i dont think i wanna read anymore, looks like 2013's going to be a horrible year now..... Board clears off, Administration looms.......Paolo goes...... new manager like Buckle or someone.....relegate d from League 1 in season 2013/14.....brillian t!!! Thats not like Swindon is it....much!! Why oh Why cant something stay right for us......... My heart sank this morning reading this post.....felt amazing yesterday, now i just wanna close the PC down and go cry somewhere and scream at the blummin board........ Sometimes, just sometimes i really hate football :-(((((( COYR'ssssssssssssss Whereever we'll be or end up...... Louis :-(((((((((((((((((( (((
Don't panic Mr. louiscassius! If it helps, read my post towards the end of yesterdays live thread. It's only my interpretation and opinion of course but I doubt it's too far off. Paolo's only doing what comes naturally and Sir WP's only doing what's been asked of him. We're not in a bad place, have a great manager, great squad, fantastic supportors (but everyone try to recruit more as this will help the finances) and, despite the occasional hiccup, are going places!
Blazing Riff agree no need for panic stations. We have a squad that is more than capable of achieving promotion providing we can keep the loan sigings on board. I make it at least 20 players of what I would judge to be decent League 1 ability, and many with a higher pedigree. Devera, De Vita and Thompson are 3 great examples of how Paolo is improving players, I never for one moment thought they could be a decent League 1 standard but they have proved me wrong completely.

In the SWP interview he confirmed there are no problems with him and Paolo, but money is tight. I'm sure that if Caddis gets sold and Austin moves on then that will affect the situation. He didnt want to go into details on the ground and investor details just no news at present, but I would rather that than the previous false hopes that have been raised and dashed a number of times.
[quote][p][bold]Blazing Riff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote: Oh My God!!! I just blummin knew this was to good to be true......... Well, i dont think i wanna read anymore, looks like 2013's going to be a horrible year now..... Board clears off, Administration looms.......Paolo goes...... new manager like Buckle or someone.....relegate d from League 1 in season 2013/14.....brillian t!!! Thats not like Swindon is it....much!! Why oh Why cant something stay right for us......... My heart sank this morning reading this post.....felt amazing yesterday, now i just wanna close the PC down and go cry somewhere and scream at the blummin board........ Sometimes, just sometimes i really hate football :-(((((( COYR'ssssssssssssss Whereever we'll be or end up...... Louis :-(((((((((((((((((( ((([/p][/quote]Don't panic Mr. louiscassius! If it helps, read my post towards the end of yesterdays live thread. It's only my interpretation and opinion of course but I doubt it's too far off. Paolo's only doing what comes naturally and Sir WP's only doing what's been asked of him. We're not in a bad place, have a great manager, great squad, fantastic supportors (but everyone try to recruit more as this will help the finances) and, despite the occasional hiccup, are going places![/p][/quote]Blazing Riff agree no need for panic stations. We have a squad that is more than capable of achieving promotion providing we can keep the loan sigings on board. I make it at least 20 players of what I would judge to be decent League 1 ability, and many with a higher pedigree. Devera, De Vita and Thompson are 3 great examples of how Paolo is improving players, I never for one moment thought they could be a decent League 1 standard but they have proved me wrong completely. In the SWP interview he confirmed there are no problems with him and Paolo, but money is tight. I'm sure that if Caddis gets sold and Austin moves on then that will affect the situation. He didnt want to go into details on the ground and investor details just no news at present, but I would rather that than the previous false hopes that have been raised and dashed a number of times. Wilesy
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10:35am Wed 2 Jan 13

the wizard says...

With Austin taken off injured recently and Caddis not necessarily going to Brum any sale money may be a bit slow coming through. I don't think Black will be putting up any further dosh himself but our manager may be allowed the incoming money from sales, but this is often in instalments. The next few weeks will again be interesting.

I saw the debate above about Hollands v Miller and it is Hollands every time. Sorry to say that neither Miller nor Navarro have inspired this season for me. Hollands, Ferry, Bostock are far and away better but Bostock and Hollands were not available for sale in last summer, big shame.

Yesterdays second half display was superb and one the board should take notice of especially after the total dominance over Tranmere last time out. Total football.
With Austin taken off injured recently and Caddis not necessarily going to Brum any sale money may be a bit slow coming through. I don't think Black will be putting up any further dosh himself but our manager may be allowed the incoming money from sales, but this is often in instalments. The next few weeks will again be interesting. I saw the debate above about Hollands v Miller and it is Hollands every time. Sorry to say that neither Miller nor Navarro have inspired this season for me. Hollands, Ferry, Bostock are far and away better but Bostock and Hollands were not available for sale in last summer, big shame. Yesterdays second half display was superb and one the board should take notice of especially after the total dominance over Tranmere last time out. Total football. the wizard
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10:41am Wed 2 Jan 13

Oxon-Red says...

I haven't heard the interview so cannot comment on it. However I would like to suggest that we should thank Mr Black for his involvement in the club. Last season was special and this season is also heading that way, two seasons running doesn't happen very often at the CG.

I wonder, and it is only a thought, if Mr Black having realised that he cannot complete the dream and take it further is trying to keep the dream alive with a new investor. Better to do it now and keep the continuity than wait and see it go pear shaped.

When he came on board it was a partnership and the expense was shared. Now he is the sole backer and, regardless of his wealth, he quite rightly needs to protect himself. The appointment of Patey seems to be to find either a new partner or another backer that is able to take the club to the next stage using his contacts in the richest regions of the world.

If this is the case I applaud him and hope Mr Patey can find the right fit, as long as they are not called Venky (spelling ?) or Kassam, and I hope that he is long admired by Town fans in the future.

I hope that the funds are available to keep or sign the loanees for the future and would see Ward, Hollands, Martin and Bostock (in that order) as very important in the clubs promotion bid.

By keeping up the good work on the field a new investor is more likely to be found. More gates like yesterday would also improve our chances.

COYMR
I haven't heard the interview so cannot comment on it. However I would like to suggest that we should thank Mr Black for his involvement in the club. Last season was special and this season is also heading that way, two seasons running doesn't happen very often at the CG. I wonder, and it is only a thought, if Mr Black having realised that he cannot complete the dream and take it further is trying to keep the dream alive with a new investor. Better to do it now and keep the continuity than wait and see it go pear shaped. When he came on board it was a partnership and the expense was shared. Now he is the sole backer and, regardless of his wealth, he quite rightly needs to protect himself. The appointment of Patey seems to be to find either a new partner or another backer that is able to take the club to the next stage using his contacts in the richest regions of the world. If this is the case I applaud him and hope Mr Patey can find the right fit, as long as they are not called Venky (spelling ?) or Kassam, and I hope that he is long admired by Town fans in the future. I hope that the funds are available to keep or sign the loanees for the future and would see Ward, Hollands, Martin and Bostock (in that order) as very important in the clubs promotion bid. By keeping up the good work on the field a new investor is more likely to be found. More gates like yesterday would also improve our chances. COYMR Oxon-Red
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10:45am Wed 2 Jan 13

TelSTFC says...

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
louiscassius wrote:
Oh My God!!!

I just blummin knew this was to good to be true.........

Well, i dont think i wanna read anymore, looks like 2013's going to be a horrible year now.....

Board clears off, Administration looms.......Paolo goes...... new manager like Buckle or someone.....relegate


d from League 1 in season 2013/14.....brillian


t!!!

Thats not like Swindon is it....much!!

Why oh Why cant something stay right for us.........

My heart sank this morning reading this post.....felt amazing yesterday, now i just wanna close the PC down and go cry somewhere and scream at the blummin board........

Sometimes, just sometimes i really hate football :-((((((

COYR'ssssssssssssss

Whereever we'll be or end up......

Louis :-((((((((((((((((((


(((
Hi there Louis,...Happy New Year to you.
---.
Going back to when he came in I put up a few posts proffering the 'Real' reasons why Patey was here and explaining how his background sits with where this club is....as per the norm at the time it was mocked by some and doubted by many.
---.
This certainly isn't an - 'I told you so' post but more of a sit up, take note and understand the real undertones to the club....and how difficult it is day to day for Paolo now.
.
This is why I was convinced that Paolo would walk (they can't afford to get rid of him), fortunately for us Paolo is a proud man and VERY loyal to his players and to the fans...week on week I expected to hear the fateful news but fortunately he won't be going anywhere now and will prove the doubters wrong.
.
I was lucky enough to talk to J-Wray for quite some time when he was behind us at the Villa match and he still feels sad for Paolo and confirmed all suspicions of what Paolo is going to have to deal with day-to-day.
.
Patey is here to sell the club and no more...he isn't the football guru that everyone hoped, he is a redundant ambassador who specialises in middle to far East contacts...why!?
...
Black's money is largely tied up in stocks and shares etc. since mid 2010 he has, like many business men, lost over 60% of his paper value hence his worth of £350 million is nowhere near these days and it is all getting closer to being too expensive to run a football club.
...
Let's take a leaf out of Pompey's book and give him and the players our 100% support and lets make it more vocal and make Patey's job that bit harder from a 'Wind up Paolo' point of view...as I'm sure that's what he's also charged with.
---.
GET THOSE SCARFS OUT & lets show OUR commitment to PDC and the team.
===.
Final note....if Black can afford to keep paying Patey and his daily fees on top of the undoubted fee for the sale of the club then he can afford to see us through to the summer.
.
...we're in a good state to be bought out though...rising high, big name manager, good book value of the players we have - 4th highest average attendance in League 1 and an excellent squad mentality who could do well in the Championship.
.
Swindon til I die!!
I agree PDC has his heart in this club and is the best Manager we've had since Macari. Our fans were very silent for long periods of the game yesterday and its a shame as away games are totally different with great vocal support.

We need to take a leaf out of the Pompey supporters support which was superb. Lets get behind the club and Paolo as we are 5th with two 5 0 wins on the trot superb. After whats happened to our club in the past we are in a great place right now. COYR
[quote][p][bold]SAPFanSTFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote: Oh My God!!! I just blummin knew this was to good to be true......... Well, i dont think i wanna read anymore, looks like 2013's going to be a horrible year now..... Board clears off, Administration looms.......Paolo goes...... new manager like Buckle or someone.....relegate d from League 1 in season 2013/14.....brillian t!!! Thats not like Swindon is it....much!! Why oh Why cant something stay right for us......... My heart sank this morning reading this post.....felt amazing yesterday, now i just wanna close the PC down and go cry somewhere and scream at the blummin board........ Sometimes, just sometimes i really hate football :-(((((( COYR'ssssssssssssss Whereever we'll be or end up...... Louis :-(((((((((((((((((( ((([/p][/quote]Hi there Louis,...Happy New Year to you. ---. Going back to when he came in I put up a few posts proffering the 'Real' reasons why Patey was here and explaining how his background sits with where this club is....as per the norm at the time it was mocked by some and doubted by many. ---. This certainly isn't an - 'I told you so' post but more of a sit up, take note and understand the real undertones to the club....and how difficult it is day to day for Paolo now. . This is why I was convinced that Paolo would walk (they can't afford to get rid of him), fortunately for us Paolo is a proud man and VERY loyal to his players and to the fans...week on week I expected to hear the fateful news but fortunately he won't be going anywhere now and will prove the doubters wrong. . I was lucky enough to talk to J-Wray for quite some time when he was behind us at the Villa match and he still feels sad for Paolo and confirmed all suspicions of what Paolo is going to have to deal with day-to-day. . Patey is here to sell the club and no more...he isn't the football guru that everyone hoped, he is a redundant ambassador who specialises in middle to far East contacts...why!? ... Black's money is largely tied up in stocks and shares etc. since mid 2010 he has, like many business men, lost over 60% of his paper value hence his worth of £350 million is nowhere near these days and it is all getting closer to being too expensive to run a football club. ... Let's take a leaf out of Pompey's book and give him and the players our 100% support and lets make it more vocal and make Patey's job that bit harder from a 'Wind up Paolo' point of view...as I'm sure that's what he's also charged with. ---. GET THOSE SCARFS OUT & lets show OUR commitment to PDC and the team. ===. Final note....if Black can afford to keep paying Patey and his daily fees on top of the undoubted fee for the sale of the club then he can afford to see us through to the summer. . ...we're in a good state to be bought out though...rising high, big name manager, good book value of the players we have - 4th highest average attendance in League 1 and an excellent squad mentality who could do well in the Championship. . Swindon til I die!![/p][/quote]I agree PDC has his heart in this club and is the best Manager we've had since Macari. Our fans were very silent for long periods of the game yesterday and its a shame as away games are totally different with great vocal support. We need to take a leaf out of the Pompey supporters support which was superb. Lets get behind the club and Paolo as we are 5th with two 5 0 wins on the trot superb. After whats happened to our club in the past we are in a great place right now. COYR TelSTFC
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10:50am Wed 2 Jan 13

Robinonfire says...

Keep the RED flag flying.
Keep the RED flag flying. Robinonfire
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11:11am Wed 2 Jan 13

the wizard says...

Oxon-Red wrote:
I haven't heard the interview so cannot comment on it. However I would like to suggest that we should thank Mr Black for his involvement in the club. Last season was special and this season is also heading that way, two seasons running doesn't happen very often at the CG.

I wonder, and it is only a thought, if Mr Black having realised that he cannot complete the dream and take it further is trying to keep the dream alive with a new investor. Better to do it now and keep the continuity than wait and see it go pear shaped.

When he came on board it was a partnership and the expense was shared. Now he is the sole backer and, regardless of his wealth, he quite rightly needs to protect himself. The appointment of Patey seems to be to find either a new partner or another backer that is able to take the club to the next stage using his contacts in the richest regions of the world.

If this is the case I applaud him and hope Mr Patey can find the right fit, as long as they are not called Venky (spelling ?) or Kassam, and I hope that he is long admired by Town fans in the future.

I hope that the funds are available to keep or sign the loanees for the future and would see Ward, Hollands, Martin and Bostock (in that order) as very important in the clubs promotion bid.

By keeping up the good work on the field a new investor is more likely to be found. More gates like yesterday would also improve our chances.

COYMR
Oxon, yes indeed a decent reflective viewpoint. I have been following the demise of Blackburn under its chicken based millionaires from India and what a total farce. I sincerely hope Patey doesn't let someone like that get involved here. The Adver has a "sister" paper that can be found here, http://www.lancashir
etelegraph.co.uk/new
s/blackburn/

and you can follow all the latest on the Austin saga ( they cover Burnley as well) there as well as the latest exploits of the Venkys, who are totally despised by the faithful up there.
[quote][p][bold]Oxon-Red[/bold] wrote: I haven't heard the interview so cannot comment on it. However I would like to suggest that we should thank Mr Black for his involvement in the club. Last season was special and this season is also heading that way, two seasons running doesn't happen very often at the CG. I wonder, and it is only a thought, if Mr Black having realised that he cannot complete the dream and take it further is trying to keep the dream alive with a new investor. Better to do it now and keep the continuity than wait and see it go pear shaped. When he came on board it was a partnership and the expense was shared. Now he is the sole backer and, regardless of his wealth, he quite rightly needs to protect himself. The appointment of Patey seems to be to find either a new partner or another backer that is able to take the club to the next stage using his contacts in the richest regions of the world. If this is the case I applaud him and hope Mr Patey can find the right fit, as long as they are not called Venky (spelling ?) or Kassam, and I hope that he is long admired by Town fans in the future. I hope that the funds are available to keep or sign the loanees for the future and would see Ward, Hollands, Martin and Bostock (in that order) as very important in the clubs promotion bid. By keeping up the good work on the field a new investor is more likely to be found. More gates like yesterday would also improve our chances. COYMR[/p][/quote]Oxon, yes indeed a decent reflective viewpoint. I have been following the demise of Blackburn under its chicken based millionaires from India and what a total farce. I sincerely hope Patey doesn't let someone like that get involved here. The Adver has a "sister" paper that can be found here, http://www.lancashir etelegraph.co.uk/new s/blackburn/ and you can follow all the latest on the Austin saga ( they cover Burnley as well) there as well as the latest exploits of the Venkys, who are totally despised by the faithful up there. the wizard
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11:21am Wed 2 Jan 13

STFCman&boy1973 says...

When SWP came in I said to my mates hes a C***...I dont like to label someone that way, but that was my opinion...

With approachable and amiable JW gone, replaced by the one above, it is a very dark place at SN1, as PDC said in his paper interviews, thank you for the reporting...

So to be a Swindon Fan...the same S***, different toilet!!!

Onwards and upwards,

I would also like to thank Mr PDC (GOD) for what he has brought to our tiny club, people like Paolo come along once in a lifetime, its been a pleasure to have you at SN1, we "WILL" still love this club "NO" matter what they throw at us...

Swindon Till I Die...
When SWP came in I said to my mates hes a C***...I dont like to label someone that way, but that was my opinion... With approachable and amiable JW gone, replaced by the one above, it is a very dark place at SN1, as PDC said in his paper interviews, thank you for the reporting... So to be a Swindon Fan...the same S***, different toilet!!! Onwards and upwards, I would also like to thank Mr PDC (GOD) for what he has brought to our tiny club, people like Paolo come along once in a lifetime, its been a pleasure to have you at SN1, we "WILL" still love this club "NO" matter what they throw at us... Swindon Till I Die... STFCman&boy1973
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11:27am Wed 2 Jan 13

Davey Gravey says...

We're all doomed. Another mong fest meltdown
We're all doomed. Another mong fest meltdown Davey Gravey
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11:46am Wed 2 Jan 13

MITTED says...

I have listened to the radio interviews, and as others have already said, I think Paolo was of the mindset, "If you don't ask, you don't get" but equally he also said that he would get on with the job if the answer was "no more money". There was no tantrum, no threat, it was just Paolo being his usual honest self.

What did concern me was the chairman's interview, which I felt was unimpressive to say the least. Too much was left to be read between the lines, which was either foolhardy or deliberate. I have not been impressed with our new chairman - his performance so far, is reminiscent of previous newbury-based regimes.
I have listened to the radio interviews, and as others have already said, I think Paolo was of the mindset, "If you don't ask, you don't get" but equally he also said that he would get on with the job if the answer was "no more money". There was no tantrum, no threat, it was just Paolo being his usual honest self. What did concern me was the chairman's interview, which I felt was unimpressive to say the least. Too much was left to be read between the lines, which was either foolhardy or deliberate. I have not been impressed with our new chairman - his performance so far, is reminiscent of previous newbury-based regimes. MITTED
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12:28pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Swindon1984 says...

Taking all I've heard into account, this would be my take on the situation -

1. The major shareholders seem to have decided they've taken the club as far as they can realistically with the available budget

2. SWP has no interest in engaging with the supporters and is here for one reason only - find a buyer for the club

3. This won't necessarily be a bad thing, depending on how it's done.

We should all be thankful to the recent investors for what they've done, and if they feel a this point it's the right time for them to bring a new set of investors in who can take the club to the next level, then fair enough. SWP has definitely not endeared himselves to the fans with his ambiguous statements and standoffish attitude, his CV never screamed football chairman to me, and I would be surprised if he stays should there be a regime change - as far as I can see he finds us a new owner, his work's done and he'll be free to concentrate on non-football related concerns. Everyone's happy.
Taking all I've heard into account, this would be my take on the situation - 1. The major shareholders seem to have decided they've taken the club as far as they can realistically with the available budget 2. SWP has no interest in engaging with the supporters and is here for one reason only - find a buyer for the club 3. This won't necessarily be a bad thing, depending on how it's done. We should all be thankful to the recent investors for what they've done, and if they feel a this point it's the right time for them to bring a new set of investors in who can take the club to the next level, then fair enough. SWP has definitely not endeared himselves to the fans with his ambiguous statements and standoffish attitude, his CV never screamed football chairman to me, and I would be surprised if he stays should there be a regime change - as far as I can see he finds us a new owner, his work's done and he'll be free to concentrate on non-football related concerns. Everyone's happy. Swindon1984
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12:29pm Wed 2 Jan 13

LeGod says...

i hear rumours are flying around about Bournemouth making an approach for Ritchie again. I hope what i'm hearing is wrong as he is key to us being successful this season but with their ridiculous offer last time they would need to up it considerably if they did make an offer.
Ritchie would be foolish to go to Bournemouth yes they have the russian money but it is only a loan and i can see that going pear shaped soon as well down there. At the moment they are doing well but they are a smaller club than us and if they went up to the championship i couldnt see them coping and with a ground that only hold around 9,500 i couldnt see them sustaining the wages in the championship.
Last time they bid for Ritchie Paolo said it would need to be 2-2.5 million especially when you consider they paid 800k for Tubbs who spent mosr of his career at Salisbury.
Ritchie likes playing for Paolo but if he did go and an offer comes in it would be Patey and Black i believe would make a decision over Paolo and then i could see him walking.
i hope i am totally wrong in my comments but i'm sure some bids will come in for some of our players.
A message to Patey if you want the best price fro this club the championship is where you will get it so Paolo needs to keep this squad together otherwise our value and stock will decline along with your valuation of the club.
I;m not liking what i hear from the chairman with his comments at all.
We all need to support the players 100% and especially Paolo.
I saw at half time yesterday some idiot booed at Ritchie turned round to him and told him to shut up and its idiot fans like that we dont want. How can anyone boo at half time when there is another 45 minutes to go. Thats the way football is you can have two extreme's of halves in football and some idiot fan who did that yesterday needs to get real as were not going to dominate and play good football for 90 minutes every game. Portsmouth packed the midfield to spoil the game and for 50 minutes it worked. So for the idiot fan who booed understand football a bit before you open your big mouth again.
i hear rumours are flying around about Bournemouth making an approach for Ritchie again. I hope what i'm hearing is wrong as he is key to us being successful this season but with their ridiculous offer last time they would need to up it considerably if they did make an offer. Ritchie would be foolish to go to Bournemouth yes they have the russian money but it is only a loan and i can see that going pear shaped soon as well down there. At the moment they are doing well but they are a smaller club than us and if they went up to the championship i couldnt see them coping and with a ground that only hold around 9,500 i couldnt see them sustaining the wages in the championship. Last time they bid for Ritchie Paolo said it would need to be 2-2.5 million especially when you consider they paid 800k for Tubbs who spent mosr of his career at Salisbury. Ritchie likes playing for Paolo but if he did go and an offer comes in it would be Patey and Black i believe would make a decision over Paolo and then i could see him walking. i hope i am totally wrong in my comments but i'm sure some bids will come in for some of our players. A message to Patey if you want the best price fro this club the championship is where you will get it so Paolo needs to keep this squad together otherwise our value and stock will decline along with your valuation of the club. I;m not liking what i hear from the chairman with his comments at all. We all need to support the players 100% and especially Paolo. I saw at half time yesterday some idiot booed at Ritchie turned round to him and told him to shut up and its idiot fans like that we dont want. How can anyone boo at half time when there is another 45 minutes to go. Thats the way football is you can have two extreme's of halves in football and some idiot fan who did that yesterday needs to get real as were not going to dominate and play good football for 90 minutes every game. Portsmouth packed the midfield to spoil the game and for 50 minutes it worked. So for the idiot fan who booed understand football a bit before you open your big mouth again. LeGod
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12:34pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Wilesy says...

MITTED wrote:
I have listened to the radio interviews, and as others have already said, I think Paolo was of the mindset, "If you don't ask, you don't get" but equally he also said that he would get on with the job if the answer was "no more money". There was no tantrum, no threat, it was just Paolo being his usual honest self. What did concern me was the chairman's interview, which I felt was unimpressive to say the least. Too much was left to be read between the lines, which was either foolhardy or deliberate. I have not been impressed with our new chairman - his performance so far, is reminiscent of previous newbury-based regimes.
Agree I wasn't impressed with yesterday's SWP interview. Found it cold and negative. It didn't sound like he was enjoying things very much to me, and I wasn't clear on what he has been doing as he didn't go into detail.

I'm sure he is doing some sterling work behind the scenes, but with his background I kind of expect him to be a PR expert, that certainly didn't come across yesterday.

As for any new investment, with the FA / Football League view that anyone with money is a 'fit and proper owner' I hope that SWP and Mr Black stick to the moral high ground and attract someone suitable. Not sure how the Indian chicken farmers got to take the ownership test let alone pass it, but its no surprise that they are quickly turning Blackburn into the new Portsmouth.
[quote][p][bold]MITTED[/bold] wrote: I have listened to the radio interviews, and as others have already said, I think Paolo was of the mindset, "If you don't ask, you don't get" but equally he also said that he would get on with the job if the answer was "no more money". There was no tantrum, no threat, it was just Paolo being his usual honest self. What did concern me was the chairman's interview, which I felt was unimpressive to say the least. Too much was left to be read between the lines, which was either foolhardy or deliberate. I have not been impressed with our new chairman - his performance so far, is reminiscent of previous newbury-based regimes.[/p][/quote]Agree I wasn't impressed with yesterday's SWP interview. Found it cold and negative. It didn't sound like he was enjoying things very much to me, and I wasn't clear on what he has been doing as he didn't go into detail. I'm sure he is doing some sterling work behind the scenes, but with his background I kind of expect him to be a PR expert, that certainly didn't come across yesterday. As for any new investment, with the FA / Football League view that anyone with money is a 'fit and proper owner' I hope that SWP and Mr Black stick to the moral high ground and attract someone suitable. Not sure how the Indian chicken farmers got to take the ownership test let alone pass it, but its no surprise that they are quickly turning Blackburn into the new Portsmouth. Wilesy
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12:39pm Wed 2 Jan 13

billbst says...

MITTED wrote:
I have listened to the radio interviews, and as others have already said, I think Paolo was of the mindset, "If you don't ask, you don't get" but equally he also said that he would get on with the job if the answer was "no more money". There was no tantrum, no threat, it was just Paolo being his usual honest self.

What did concern me was the chairman's interview, which I felt was unimpressive to say the least. Too much was left to be read between the lines, which was either foolhardy or deliberate. I have not been impressed with our new chairman - his performance so far, is reminiscent of previous newbury-based regimes.
I agree about Paolo. He has managed the last few weeks quite well I think. As regards Sir Will he has done what I expected. Curb Paolo's spending expectations and prepare for major boardroom changes. Second order issue was ground development and now seems to have slipped back further and clearly will not happen under the current board structure. On the positive side Sir Will obviously doesn't want to intefere on the footballing side beyond setting and sticking to the budget. Can't see any windfall income from sales of Austin. Doubt the Brums consider a purchase of a full back a priority given their finances and they already have a loan deal. Certainly not early doors. Therefore a juggling act with returning loanees and keeping ones here. Mr Spencer step foward and earn your corn please. With the possible exception of Benson our loanees are probably on their way back. If I were at Charlton I would say thanks very much and keep Hollands. Ward won't go back just hope he will agree a short term deal with us. Martin seems a good extension prospect. Bostock might have to go to balance the wages. Depite what has been said lately Adam Rooney's loan deal will have to be renegotiated if Paolo wants another striker. Again why would the Brums want to change. The good news must be that we have a very competitive squad and this time there will be no big changes to disturb the consistency. We will get to the championship on current resources. The summer will critical. Thank you Mr Black for all you have done but please don't throw us back to those dank dismal days.
[quote][p][bold]MITTED[/bold] wrote: I have listened to the radio interviews, and as others have already said, I think Paolo was of the mindset, "If you don't ask, you don't get" but equally he also said that he would get on with the job if the answer was "no more money". There was no tantrum, no threat, it was just Paolo being his usual honest self. What did concern me was the chairman's interview, which I felt was unimpressive to say the least. Too much was left to be read between the lines, which was either foolhardy or deliberate. I have not been impressed with our new chairman - his performance so far, is reminiscent of previous newbury-based regimes.[/p][/quote]I agree about Paolo. He has managed the last few weeks quite well I think. As regards Sir Will he has done what I expected. Curb Paolo's spending expectations and prepare for major boardroom changes. Second order issue was ground development and now seems to have slipped back further and clearly will not happen under the current board structure. On the positive side Sir Will obviously doesn't want to intefere on the footballing side beyond setting and sticking to the budget. Can't see any windfall income from sales of Austin. Doubt the Brums consider a purchase of a full back a priority given their finances and they already have a loan deal. Certainly not early doors. Therefore a juggling act with returning loanees and keeping ones here. Mr Spencer step foward and earn your corn please. With the possible exception of Benson our loanees are probably on their way back. If I were at Charlton I would say thanks very much and keep Hollands. Ward won't go back just hope he will agree a short term deal with us. Martin seems a good extension prospect. Bostock might have to go to balance the wages. Depite what has been said lately Adam Rooney's loan deal will have to be renegotiated if Paolo wants another striker. Again why would the Brums want to change. The good news must be that we have a very competitive squad and this time there will be no big changes to disturb the consistency. We will get to the championship on current resources. The summer will critical. Thank you Mr Black for all you have done but please don't throw us back to those dank dismal days. billbst
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12:41pm Wed 2 Jan 13

old town robin says...

LeGod wrote:
i hear rumours are flying around about Bournemouth making an approach for Ritchie again. I hope what i'm hearing is wrong as he is key to us being successful this season but with their ridiculous offer last time they would need to up it considerably if they did make an offer.
Ritchie would be foolish to go to Bournemouth yes they have the russian money but it is only a loan and i can see that going pear shaped soon as well down there. At the moment they are doing well but they are a smaller club than us and if they went up to the championship i couldnt see them coping and with a ground that only hold around 9,500 i couldnt see them sustaining the wages in the championship.
Last time they bid for Ritchie Paolo said it would need to be 2-2.5 million especially when you consider they paid 800k for Tubbs who spent mosr of his career at Salisbury.
Ritchie likes playing for Paolo but if he did go and an offer comes in it would be Patey and Black i believe would make a decision over Paolo and then i could see him walking.
i hope i am totally wrong in my comments but i'm sure some bids will come in for some of our players.
A message to Patey if you want the best price fro this club the championship is where you will get it so Paolo needs to keep this squad together otherwise our value and stock will decline along with your valuation of the club.
I;m not liking what i hear from the chairman with his comments at all.
We all need to support the players 100% and especially Paolo.
I saw at half time yesterday some idiot booed at Ritchie turned round to him and told him to shut up and its idiot fans like that we dont want. How can anyone boo at half time when there is another 45 minutes to go. Thats the way football is you can have two extreme's of halves in football and some idiot fan who did that yesterday needs to get real as were not going to dominate and play good football for 90 minutes every game. Portsmouth packed the midfield to spoil the game and for 50 minutes it worked. So for the idiot fan who booed understand football a bit before you open your big mouth again.
The guy who sits next to me in the Arkells gives me constant earache with his negativity with regards matt, he heard from somewhere that Brighton were going to make a bid for him. As with you, I don't want to see Matt or any of the present squad sold off just to balance the books and if it did happen without the consent of Paolo, I agree I think he would go. Let's hope none of the rumours have any credibility.
[quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: i hear rumours are flying around about Bournemouth making an approach for Ritchie again. I hope what i'm hearing is wrong as he is key to us being successful this season but with their ridiculous offer last time they would need to up it considerably if they did make an offer. Ritchie would be foolish to go to Bournemouth yes they have the russian money but it is only a loan and i can see that going pear shaped soon as well down there. At the moment they are doing well but they are a smaller club than us and if they went up to the championship i couldnt see them coping and with a ground that only hold around 9,500 i couldnt see them sustaining the wages in the championship. Last time they bid for Ritchie Paolo said it would need to be 2-2.5 million especially when you consider they paid 800k for Tubbs who spent mosr of his career at Salisbury. Ritchie likes playing for Paolo but if he did go and an offer comes in it would be Patey and Black i believe would make a decision over Paolo and then i could see him walking. i hope i am totally wrong in my comments but i'm sure some bids will come in for some of our players. A message to Patey if you want the best price fro this club the championship is where you will get it so Paolo needs to keep this squad together otherwise our value and stock will decline along with your valuation of the club. I;m not liking what i hear from the chairman with his comments at all. We all need to support the players 100% and especially Paolo. I saw at half time yesterday some idiot booed at Ritchie turned round to him and told him to shut up and its idiot fans like that we dont want. How can anyone boo at half time when there is another 45 minutes to go. Thats the way football is you can have two extreme's of halves in football and some idiot fan who did that yesterday needs to get real as were not going to dominate and play good football for 90 minutes every game. Portsmouth packed the midfield to spoil the game and for 50 minutes it worked. So for the idiot fan who booed understand football a bit before you open your big mouth again.[/p][/quote]The guy who sits next to me in the Arkells gives me constant earache with his negativity with regards matt, he heard from somewhere that Brighton were going to make a bid for him. As with you, I don't want to see Matt or any of the present squad sold off just to balance the books and if it did happen without the consent of Paolo, I agree I think he would go. Let's hope none of the rumours have any credibility. old town robin
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12:45pm Wed 2 Jan 13

madterrier says...

killerontheloose wrote:
Mate, you've just won the last 2 games 5-0 , why do you need to invest any more..........might be the response!
Obviously the answer to that is that the loan deals for Ward, Bostock, Hollands and Martin end in a few days' time and Paolo wants to keep those players, for which funding for additional wages are needed.

You could argue (as Black probably does) that the squad is already large enough, the biggest in League One, and Paolo should get more from the players he bought originally rather than ignore them and clamour for loan signings instead.

From the off I always assumed that Patey's brief was to find new investors. It is possible to interpret this as meaning 'new' investors in the form of additional investors rather than replacement ones, to spread the load, or new investors for the holding company and the ground development. But I assume that Andrew Black wants out. He's a horse racing man, not a football man.

The word 'investor' is daft anyway. Investment is usually made to secure a return, i.e. make profit. All that people do with football clubs is squander their money. I guess most people get tired of that, whatever their personal wealth. So you have to find 'investors' like Abramovic or Arab sheikhs who are happy to squander their money in return for the kudos and ego boost of having a top football club as a plaything.

What I would agree with though is that the club would be more attractive to sell on if it is the Championship. And this season is a golden opportunity. The calibre of opposition is nothing compared to the likes of Leeds, Soton, Norwich, Charlton, Huddersfiled and Millwall who we had to battle it out with last time. So a little push across the line in the form of more wages for these players (who in the case of Ward and Hollands are better than our own) could just about be interpreted as 'investment' albeit very short term. But how would they get their additional investment back?

That said, if we get to the Championship, the players we would need to stay there would be on high enough wages to make sure that we just leverage up financially and still make an operating loss. Most of the clubs in the Championship are in dire financial straits, even with much bigger attendances than we get.

As any surfer will tell you, you just have to ride the wave until it peters out, and enjoy it while you do.
[quote][p][bold]killerontheloose[/bold] wrote: Mate, you've just won the last 2 games 5-0 , why do you need to invest any more..........might be the response![/p][/quote]Obviously the answer to that is that the loan deals for Ward, Bostock, Hollands and Martin end in a few days' time and Paolo wants to keep those players, for which funding for additional wages are needed. You could argue (as Black probably does) that the squad is already large enough, the biggest in League One, and Paolo should get more from the players he bought originally rather than ignore them and clamour for loan signings instead. From the off I always assumed that Patey's brief was to find new investors. It is possible to interpret this as meaning 'new' investors in the form of additional investors rather than replacement ones, to spread the load, or new investors for the holding company and the ground development. But I assume that Andrew Black wants out. He's a horse racing man, not a football man. The word 'investor' is daft anyway. Investment is usually made to secure a return, i.e. make profit. All that people do with football clubs is squander their money. I guess most people get tired of that, whatever their personal wealth. So you have to find 'investors' like Abramovic or Arab sheikhs who are happy to squander their money in return for the kudos and ego boost of having a top football club as a plaything. What I would agree with though is that the club would be more attractive to sell on if it is the Championship. And this season is a golden opportunity. The calibre of opposition is nothing compared to the likes of Leeds, Soton, Norwich, Charlton, Huddersfiled and Millwall who we had to battle it out with last time. So a little push across the line in the form of more wages for these players (who in the case of Ward and Hollands are better than our own) could just about be interpreted as 'investment' albeit very short term. But how would they get their additional investment back? That said, if we get to the Championship, the players we would need to stay there would be on high enough wages to make sure that we just leverage up financially and still make an operating loss. Most of the clubs in the Championship are in dire financial straits, even with much bigger attendances than we get. As any surfer will tell you, you just have to ride the wave until it peters out, and enjoy it while you do. madterrier
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1:07pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Davidsyrett says...

For Swindon to become a sustainable Championship club we need a new stadium and investment in the playing side, probably £30/40M at least,

It's not therefore surprising that AB has decided to look for a buyer, as it has been said, he probably feels he has taken the club as far as he can especially if it's right that he has lost millions on the stock market in the last few years.

I also have no doubt that AB will try to protect as much of his investment as he possible can, therefore if he sells it will be to someone who will give him a good price.

Reading between the lines I feel that if we want to progress, the club will have to be sold to someone who will be able to invest the said millions, perhaps we should give credit to AB for realising that.

Bare in mind also that SWP is his mouth piece and nothing more, what he say's is what AB wants.

What it does mean though, is that in the short term there is unlikely to be any more investment in the playing side.
For Swindon to become a sustainable Championship club we need a new stadium and investment in the playing side, probably £30/40M at least, It's not therefore surprising that AB has decided to look for a buyer, as it has been said, he probably feels he has taken the club as far as he can especially if it's right that he has lost millions on the stock market in the last few years. I also have no doubt that AB will try to protect as much of his investment as he possible can, therefore if he sells it will be to someone who will give him a good price. Reading between the lines I feel that if we want to progress, the club will have to be sold to someone who will be able to invest the said millions, perhaps we should give credit to AB for realising that. Bare in mind also that SWP is his mouth piece and nothing more, what he say's is what AB wants. What it does mean though, is that in the short term there is unlikely to be any more investment in the playing side. Davidsyrett
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1:20pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Oi Den! says...

I left the ground yesterday on cloud nine and arrived home feeling pretty low, having heard a rerun of the Chairman's pre-match interview.
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I have no quibble with Sir William telling us we have no money for new players. Fine - we've spent a fortune for our level and we've built a good squad. It is completely unrealistic to suggest that anyone, however wealthy, should keep plugging the financial gaps.
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But, as others have commented, our Chairman leaves too much unsaid on many important issues affecting the club. He refused to acknowledge the obvious hostility between Di Canio and Bodin. He is utterly evasive on the subject of ground redevelopment. He talks of new investors and new owners but gives no indication of Andrew Black's intended involvement from now on. It's the kind of doublespeak many people will recognise from the corporate bullsh*itters they've met.
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To be fair to Shaun Hodgetts, he tried hard to get straight answers from Patey but maybe the questions need to be more direct, such as:
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Does the club no longer have any intention of redeveloping the County Ground or relocating? If that's the case, what has changed from all the bold statements of recent years? We were told 18 months ago that things were put back by a year because of relegation. Well, that one is well and truly put to bed now. We are told we need property expertise on the board. Why? What is wrong with employing the expertise of property consultants? I don't imagine anyone is going to provide services for nothing, even with a place on the board.
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Does Sir William care about the club or its supporters? I'm afraid it doesn't sound like it.
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Back to the football... Excellent second half, once we made the obvious change of putting a ball player in central midfield. Collins did superbly but to be fair to Williams and Martin, they received very poor service in the first half. Ferry transformed that.
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There's a strong sense that something special is happening on the football side of our club. But Sir William's evasiveness makes me edgy and reluctant to get carried away. We are Town fans. We have enough experience of b*llsh*t to recognise its distinctive smell.
I left the ground yesterday on cloud nine and arrived home feeling pretty low, having heard a rerun of the Chairman's pre-match interview. . I have no quibble with Sir William telling us we have no money for new players. Fine - we've spent a fortune for our level and we've built a good squad. It is completely unrealistic to suggest that anyone, however wealthy, should keep plugging the financial gaps. . But, as others have commented, our Chairman leaves too much unsaid on many important issues affecting the club. He refused to acknowledge the obvious hostility between Di Canio and Bodin. He is utterly evasive on the subject of ground redevelopment. He talks of new investors and new owners but gives no indication of Andrew Black's intended involvement from now on. It's the kind of doublespeak many people will recognise from the corporate bullsh*itters they've met. . To be fair to Shaun Hodgetts, he tried hard to get straight answers from Patey but maybe the questions need to be more direct, such as: . Does the club no longer have any intention of redeveloping the County Ground or relocating? If that's the case, what has changed from all the bold statements of recent years? We were told 18 months ago that things were put back by a year because of relegation. Well, that one is well and truly put to bed now. We are told we need property expertise on the board. Why? What is wrong with employing the expertise of property consultants? I don't imagine anyone is going to provide services for nothing, even with a place on the board. . Does Sir William care about the club or its supporters? I'm afraid it doesn't sound like it. . Back to the football... Excellent second half, once we made the obvious change of putting a ball player in central midfield. Collins did superbly but to be fair to Williams and Martin, they received very poor service in the first half. Ferry transformed that. . There's a strong sense that something special is happening on the football side of our club. But Sir William's evasiveness makes me edgy and reluctant to get carried away. We are Town fans. We have enough experience of b*llsh*t to recognise its distinctive smell. Oi Den!
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1:25pm Wed 2 Jan 13

the wizard says...

Its not going to happen but if Wray came in with some backers with the REAL money needed , then he would get my vote every time.

There seems to be little transparency behind the façade that is not so matey Patey , he is a politician, and we all know they cannot be trusted.

I am very indebted to Black, Arbib, Fitton and Wray for the way they have tried to put this club on a sound footing and give it a future, and they are to be commended for that. I also respect Black for realising he and he alone cannot fund this club at the next level, which brings my mind back to when Patey was appointed and our manager saying about the plan having changed and he had the opportunity to leave. As long as we keep winning with some regularity, and keep ourselves as a club in the promotion mix then we will be more attractive to potential purchasers. Lets hope that happens. I'm not going to panic or get upset over this, as we have been here before. The board meeting is yet to happen, big shame we never played those two cancelled games to bring more pressure through our performances to hopefully make people think twice. We will never know the price of those two games and what they may have cost us. We have no option other than to move on with time and see what it brings.
Its not going to happen but if Wray came in with some backers with the REAL money needed , then he would get my vote every time. There seems to be little transparency behind the façade that is not so matey Patey , he is a politician, and we all know they cannot be trusted. I am very indebted to Black, Arbib, Fitton and Wray for the way they have tried to put this club on a sound footing and give it a future, and they are to be commended for that. I also respect Black for realising he and he alone cannot fund this club at the next level, which brings my mind back to when Patey was appointed and our manager saying about the plan having changed and he had the opportunity to leave. As long as we keep winning with some regularity, and keep ourselves as a club in the promotion mix then we will be more attractive to potential purchasers. Lets hope that happens. I'm not going to panic or get upset over this, as we have been here before. The board meeting is yet to happen, big shame we never played those two cancelled games to bring more pressure through our performances to hopefully make people think twice. We will never know the price of those two games and what they may have cost us. We have no option other than to move on with time and see what it brings. the wizard
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1:26pm Wed 2 Jan 13

LeGod says...

oldtownrobin - for a fan to criticise Ritchie is beyond belief if he was sat near me i'd tell him what i thought.
He obviously doesnt have a clue what he is on about as Ritchie delivers the ball in better than anyone i have seen in this league and how many players have two players on him as soon as he gets the ball in the league.
I find it astounding some comments some people make about players and Ritchie in particular is beyond belief as he is a very valuable assett to any team.
Maybe this idiot in the Arkells may wake up one day and realise what Ritchie brings to the team or on the other hand maybe he is just a total idiot who knows nothing.
oldtownrobin - for a fan to criticise Ritchie is beyond belief if he was sat near me i'd tell him what i thought. He obviously doesnt have a clue what he is on about as Ritchie delivers the ball in better than anyone i have seen in this league and how many players have two players on him as soon as he gets the ball in the league. I find it astounding some comments some people make about players and Ritchie in particular is beyond belief as he is a very valuable assett to any team. Maybe this idiot in the Arkells may wake up one day and realise what Ritchie brings to the team or on the other hand maybe he is just a total idiot who knows nothing. LeGod
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1:35pm Wed 2 Jan 13

RamsburyRed says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
For Swindon to become a sustainable Championship club we need a new stadium and investment in the playing side, probably £30/40M at least, It's not therefore surprising that AB has decided to look for a buyer, as it has been said, he probably feels he has taken the club as far as he can especially if it's right that he has lost millions on the stock market in the last few years. I also have no doubt that AB will try to protect as much of his investment as he possible can, therefore if he sells it will be to someone who will give him a good price. Reading between the lines I feel that if we want to progress, the club will have to be sold to someone who will be able to invest the said millions, perhaps we should give credit to AB for realising that. Bare in mind also that SWP is his mouth piece and nothing more, what he say's is what AB wants. What it does mean though, is that in the short term there is unlikely to be any more investment in the playing side.
Spot on as regards Championship finances. I cannot understand why so many on here think promotion is the solution to our financial problems, the higher the league the greater the operating deficit and debt in most cases.
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We can only hope to improve the financial equation with a new ground to attract new fans (easy car access etc) and with shops, restaurants, hotels and sports facilities on site that will allow the developers to reap a 365-day-a-year revenue from it.
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: For Swindon to become a sustainable Championship club we need a new stadium and investment in the playing side, probably £30/40M at least, It's not therefore surprising that AB has decided to look for a buyer, as it has been said, he probably feels he has taken the club as far as he can especially if it's right that he has lost millions on the stock market in the last few years. I also have no doubt that AB will try to protect as much of his investment as he possible can, therefore if he sells it will be to someone who will give him a good price. Reading between the lines I feel that if we want to progress, the club will have to be sold to someone who will be able to invest the said millions, perhaps we should give credit to AB for realising that. Bare in mind also that SWP is his mouth piece and nothing more, what he say's is what AB wants. What it does mean though, is that in the short term there is unlikely to be any more investment in the playing side.[/p][/quote]Spot on as regards Championship finances. I cannot understand why so many on here think promotion is the solution to our financial problems, the higher the league the greater the operating deficit and debt in most cases. * We can only hope to improve the financial equation with a new ground to attract new fans (easy car access etc) and with shops, restaurants, hotels and sports facilities on site that will allow the developers to reap a 365-day-a-year revenue from it. RamsburyRed
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1:52pm Wed 2 Jan 13

ChrisWantageRed says...

It always worries me when clubs start bringing in politicians to high level positions within the club. Maybe I'm wrong about SWP, but my initial reaction is I smell a rat. He seems incredibly cold and lacking in passion for the club, and shows the supporters little respect by dodging questions and refusing to be open and honest.

The "January money" situation for me has been blown out of proportion. Consider the following:

Rooney L
Cox
Risser
Benson
Caddis

(Austin sell on?)

Regardless of what fee we may or may not get for any of these players, the fact that their wages could potentially be off the books will leave money available (PdC has already said once the Benno is one of the higher earners, and I'd imagine Caddis was on a fair wedge too). Ok we might not get all of that money, but if PdC is genuinely only looking for one or two players as he hinted during interview yesterday, surely there isn't THAT big of a problem here?

Fair play to Paolo for chancing his arm and asking the question of the board regarding extra funds, who wouldn't? But if we can keep some of the loanees (for me Ward and Hollands are the key ones), I'm sure Paolo could bring in some more than adequate replacements. A phone call or two to his old mentor 'Arry for some "wheeling and dealing" advice might be a decent shout? :)
It always worries me when clubs start bringing in politicians to high level positions within the club. Maybe I'm wrong about SWP, but my initial reaction is I smell a rat. He seems incredibly cold and lacking in passion for the club, and shows the supporters little respect by dodging questions and refusing to be open and honest. The "January money" situation for me has been blown out of proportion. Consider the following: Rooney L Cox Risser Benson Caddis (Austin sell on?) Regardless of what fee we may or may not get for any of these players, the fact that their wages could potentially be off the books will leave money available (PdC has already said once the Benno is one of the higher earners, and I'd imagine Caddis was on a fair wedge too). Ok we might not get all of that money, but if PdC is genuinely only looking for one or two players as he hinted during interview yesterday, surely there isn't THAT big of a problem here? Fair play to Paolo for chancing his arm and asking the question of the board regarding extra funds, who wouldn't? But if we can keep some of the loanees (for me Ward and Hollands are the key ones), I'm sure Paolo could bring in some more than adequate replacements. A phone call or two to his old mentor 'Arry for some "wheeling and dealing" advice might be a decent shout? :) ChrisWantageRed
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2:19pm Wed 2 Jan 13

tobruk says...

TelSTFC wrote:
SAPFanSTFC wrote:
louiscassius wrote:
Oh My God!!!

I just blummin knew this was to good to be true.........

Well, i dont think i wanna read anymore, looks like 2013's going to be a horrible year now.....

Board clears off, Administration looms.......Paolo goes...... new manager like Buckle or someone.....relegate



d from League 1 in season 2013/14.....brillian



t!!!

Thats not like Swindon is it....much!!

Why oh Why cant something stay right for us.........

My heart sank this morning reading this post.....felt amazing yesterday, now i just wanna close the PC down and go cry somewhere and scream at the blummin board........

Sometimes, just sometimes i really hate football :-((((((

COYR'ssssssssssssss

Whereever we'll be or end up......

Louis :-((((((((((((((((((



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Hi there Louis,...Happy New Year to you.
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Going back to when he came in I put up a few posts proffering the 'Real' reasons why Patey was here and explaining how his background sits with where this club is....as per the norm at the time it was mocked by some and doubted by many.
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This certainly isn't an - 'I told you so' post but more of a sit up, take note and understand the real undertones to the club....and how difficult it is day to day for Paolo now.
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This is why I was convinced that Paolo would walk (they can't afford to get rid of him), fortunately for us Paolo is a proud man and VERY loyal to his players and to the fans...week on week I expected to hear the fateful news but fortunately he won't be going anywhere now and will prove the doubters wrong.
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I was lucky enough to talk to J-Wray for quite some time when he was behind us at the Villa match and he still feels sad for Paolo and confirmed all suspicions of what Paolo is going to have to deal with day-to-day.
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Patey is here to sell the club and no more...he isn't the football guru that everyone hoped, he is a redundant ambassador who specialises in middle to far East contacts...why!?
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Black's money is largely tied up in stocks and shares etc. since mid 2010 he has, like many business men, lost over 60% of his paper value hence his worth of £350 million is nowhere near these days and it is all getting closer to being too expensive to run a football club.
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Let's take a leaf out of Pompey's book and give him and the players our 100% support and lets make it more vocal and make Patey's job that bit harder from a 'Wind up Paolo' point of view...as I'm sure that's what he's also charged with.
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GET THOSE SCARFS OUT & lets show OUR commitment to PDC and the team.
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Final note....if Black can afford to keep paying Patey and his daily fees on top of the undoubted fee for the sale of the club then he can afford to see us through to the summer.
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...we're in a good state to be bought out though...rising high, big name manager, good book value of the players we have - 4th highest average attendance in League 1 and an excellent squad mentality who could do well in the Championship.
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Swindon til I die!!
I agree PDC has his heart in this club and is the best Manager we've had since Macari. Our fans were very silent for long periods of the game yesterday and its a shame as away games are totally different with great vocal support.

We need to take a leaf out of the Pompey supporters support which was superb. Lets get behind the club and Paolo as we are 5th with two 5 0 wins on the trot superb. After whats happened to our club in the past we are in a great place right now. COYR
I think the fans were quiet yesterday in the first half because it looked at first as though we were going to have an off day after the magnificent win against Tranmere. We have often had an off day when the ground was full. Still what great support and result in the second half. Yellow cards were not justified in my view, especially the first one. Ref in danger of losing control at one stage. Wonder what he was saying to Paulo?
[quote][p][bold]TelSTFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAPFanSTFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote: Oh My God!!! I just blummin knew this was to good to be true......... Well, i dont think i wanna read anymore, looks like 2013's going to be a horrible year now..... Board clears off, Administration looms.......Paolo goes...... new manager like Buckle or someone.....relegate d from League 1 in season 2013/14.....brillian t!!! Thats not like Swindon is it....much!! Why oh Why cant something stay right for us......... My heart sank this morning reading this post.....felt amazing yesterday, now i just wanna close the PC down and go cry somewhere and scream at the blummin board........ Sometimes, just sometimes i really hate football :-(((((( COYR'ssssssssssssss Whereever we'll be or end up...... Louis :-(((((((((((((((((( ((([/p][/quote]Hi there Louis,...Happy New Year to you. ---. Going back to when he came in I put up a few posts proffering the 'Real' reasons why Patey was here and explaining how his background sits with where this club is....as per the norm at the time it was mocked by some and doubted by many. ---. This certainly isn't an - 'I told you so' post but more of a sit up, take note and understand the real undertones to the club....and how difficult it is day to day for Paolo now. . This is why I was convinced that Paolo would walk (they can't afford to get rid of him), fortunately for us Paolo is a proud man and VERY loyal to his players and to the fans...week on week I expected to hear the fateful news but fortunately he won't be going anywhere now and will prove the doubters wrong. . I was lucky enough to talk to J-Wray for quite some time when he was behind us at the Villa match and he still feels sad for Paolo and confirmed all suspicions of what Paolo is going to have to deal with day-to-day. . Patey is here to sell the club and no more...he isn't the football guru that everyone hoped, he is a redundant ambassador who specialises in middle to far East contacts...why!? ... Black's money is largely tied up in stocks and shares etc. since mid 2010 he has, like many business men, lost over 60% of his paper value hence his worth of £350 million is nowhere near these days and it is all getting closer to being too expensive to run a football club. ... Let's take a leaf out of Pompey's book and give him and the players our 100% support and lets make it more vocal and make Patey's job that bit harder from a 'Wind up Paolo' point of view...as I'm sure that's what he's also charged with. ---. GET THOSE SCARFS OUT & lets show OUR commitment to PDC and the team. ===. Final note....if Black can afford to keep paying Patey and his daily fees on top of the undoubted fee for the sale of the club then he can afford to see us through to the summer. . ...we're in a good state to be bought out though...rising high, big name manager, good book value of the players we have - 4th highest average attendance in League 1 and an excellent squad mentality who could do well in the Championship. . Swindon til I die!![/p][/quote]I agree PDC has his heart in this club and is the best Manager we've had since Macari. Our fans were very silent for long periods of the game yesterday and its a shame as away games are totally different with great vocal support. We need to take a leaf out of the Pompey supporters support which was superb. Lets get behind the club and Paolo as we are 5th with two 5 0 wins on the trot superb. After whats happened to our club in the past we are in a great place right now. COYR[/p][/quote]I think the fans were quiet yesterday in the first half because it looked at first as though we were going to have an off day after the magnificent win against Tranmere. We have often had an off day when the ground was full. Still what great support and result in the second half. Yellow cards were not justified in my view, especially the first one. Ref in danger of losing control at one stage. Wonder what he was saying to Paulo? tobruk
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2:22pm Wed 2 Jan 13

red white says...

ChrisWantageRed wrote:
It always worries me when clubs start bringing in politicians to high level positions within the club. Maybe I'm wrong about SWP, but my initial reaction is I smell a rat. He seems incredibly cold and lacking in passion for the club, and shows the supporters little respect by dodging questions and refusing to be open and honest.

The "January money" situation for me has been blown out of proportion. Consider the following:

Rooney L
Cox
Risser
Benson
Caddis

(Austin sell on?)

Regardless of what fee we may or may not get for any of these players, the fact that their wages could potentially be off the books will leave money available (PdC has already said once the Benno is one of the higher earners, and I'd imagine Caddis was on a fair wedge too). Ok we might not get all of that money, but if PdC is genuinely only looking for one or two players as he hinted during interview yesterday, surely there isn't THAT big of a problem here?

Fair play to Paolo for chancing his arm and asking the question of the board regarding extra funds, who wouldn't? But if we can keep some of the loanees (for me Ward and Hollands are the key ones), I'm sure Paolo could bring in some more than adequate replacements. A phone call or two to his old mentor 'Arry for some "wheeling and dealing" advice might be a decent shout? :)
Sure he has done that and also the Celtic connection,must have loads of players from the youth system there.

They would be dynamite down here under Paolo's rule!
[quote][p][bold]ChrisWantageRed[/bold] wrote: It always worries me when clubs start bringing in politicians to high level positions within the club. Maybe I'm wrong about SWP, but my initial reaction is I smell a rat. He seems incredibly cold and lacking in passion for the club, and shows the supporters little respect by dodging questions and refusing to be open and honest. The "January money" situation for me has been blown out of proportion. Consider the following: Rooney L Cox Risser Benson Caddis (Austin sell on?) Regardless of what fee we may or may not get for any of these players, the fact that their wages could potentially be off the books will leave money available (PdC has already said once the Benno is one of the higher earners, and I'd imagine Caddis was on a fair wedge too). Ok we might not get all of that money, but if PdC is genuinely only looking for one or two players as he hinted during interview yesterday, surely there isn't THAT big of a problem here? Fair play to Paolo for chancing his arm and asking the question of the board regarding extra funds, who wouldn't? But if we can keep some of the loanees (for me Ward and Hollands are the key ones), I'm sure Paolo could bring in some more than adequate replacements. A phone call or two to his old mentor 'Arry for some "wheeling and dealing" advice might be a decent shout? :)[/p][/quote]Sure he has done that and also the Celtic connection,must have loads of players from the youth system there. They would be dynamite down here under Paolo's rule! red white
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2:34pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Oi Den! says...

Agree on two of the cards - can't comment on the Thompson one as I didn't see what he did to get his. The booking for Williams was ridiculous. Two players going hell for leather for the ball and one got there a fraction before the other. It was a completely accidental collision and nothing reckless or malicious in it at all. Williams would quite rightly have received disapproval from the manager if he hadn't tried to win the ball. I thought the ref did OK overall though. Not sure why so many people were having a go at him when he was talking to PDC.
Agree on two of the cards - can't comment on the Thompson one as I didn't see what he did to get his. The booking for Williams was ridiculous. Two players going hell for leather for the ball and one got there a fraction before the other. It was a completely accidental collision and nothing reckless or malicious in it at all. Williams would quite rightly have received disapproval from the manager if he hadn't tried to win the ball. I thought the ref did OK overall though. Not sure why so many people were having a go at him when he was talking to PDC. Oi Den!
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2:40pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Oi Den! says...

red white:

"Sure he has done that and also the Celtic connection,must have loads of players from the youth system there.

They would be dynamite down here under Paolo's rule"

Why would Celtic's youth players be any good at this level of English football?
red white: "Sure he has done that and also the Celtic connection,must have loads of players from the youth system there. They would be dynamite down here under Paolo's rule" Why would Celtic's youth players be any good at this level of English football? Oi Den!
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3:19pm Wed 2 Jan 13

red white says...

Oi Den! wrote:
red white:

"Sure he has done that and also the Celtic connection,must have loads of players from the youth system there.

They would be dynamite down here under Paolo's rule"

Why would Celtic's youth players be any good at this level of English football?
I reckon they got players better than our youts,would do a good job.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: red white: "Sure he has done that and also the Celtic connection,must have loads of players from the youth system there. They would be dynamite down here under Paolo's rule" Why would Celtic's youth players be any good at this level of English football?[/p][/quote]I reckon they got players better than our youts,would do a good job. red white
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3:42pm Wed 2 Jan 13

old town robin says...

LeGod wrote:
oldtownrobin - for a fan to criticise Ritchie is beyond belief if he was sat near me i'd tell him what i thought.
He obviously doesnt have a clue what he is on about as Ritchie delivers the ball in better than anyone i have seen in this league and how many players have two players on him as soon as he gets the ball in the league.
I find it astounding some comments some people make about players and Ritchie in particular is beyond belief as he is a very valuable assett to any team.
Maybe this idiot in the Arkells may wake up one day and realise what Ritchie brings to the team or on the other hand maybe he is just a total idiot who knows nothing.
LeGod, agree with your sentiments but being one of the ODPM (Old Day Pensioner Mafia) I'm quite placid and think everyone is entitled to an opinion, so just tend to put him right when he's looking for fault when he starts spouting unjustified criticism. I personally like the effort put in by Matt and as you say if on occassion he isn't in the game it's usually when the opposition put two or three on him to stop him playing.

Don't know too many on the forum that get in the legends bar, but always enjoy a pre-match chat with rudynoseman. See you saturday my friend.

By the way my son tried to buy a pastie or sausage roll at half time at Paolo's deli, all sold out except for a hot-dog., don't eat there myself but what a joke this franchise are that are suppose to be offering catering. Time for change
[quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: oldtownrobin - for a fan to criticise Ritchie is beyond belief if he was sat near me i'd tell him what i thought. He obviously doesnt have a clue what he is on about as Ritchie delivers the ball in better than anyone i have seen in this league and how many players have two players on him as soon as he gets the ball in the league. I find it astounding some comments some people make about players and Ritchie in particular is beyond belief as he is a very valuable assett to any team. Maybe this idiot in the Arkells may wake up one day and realise what Ritchie brings to the team or on the other hand maybe he is just a total idiot who knows nothing.[/p][/quote]LeGod, agree with your sentiments but being one of the ODPM (Old Day Pensioner Mafia) I'm quite placid and think everyone is entitled to an opinion, so just tend to put him right when he's looking for fault when he starts spouting unjustified criticism. I personally like the effort put in by Matt and as you say if on occassion he isn't in the game it's usually when the opposition put two or three on him to stop him playing. Don't know too many on the forum that get in the legends bar, but always enjoy a pre-match chat with rudynoseman. See you saturday my friend. By the way my son tried to buy a pastie or sausage roll at half time at Paolo's deli, all sold out except for a hot-dog., don't eat there myself but what a joke this franchise are that are suppose to be offering catering. Time for change old town robin
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3:51pm Wed 2 Jan 13

old town robin says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Agree on two of the cards - can't comment on the Thompson one as I didn't see what he did to get his. The booking for Williams was ridiculous. Two players going hell for leather for the ball and one got there a fraction before the other. It was a completely accidental collision and nothing reckless or malicious in it at all. Williams would quite rightly have received disapproval from the manager if he hadn't tried to win the ball. I thought the ref did OK overall though. Not sure why so many people were having a go at him when he was talking to PDC.
Yeah Den, Williams shirked out on a 50/50 with the goalie against Donnie that could have won us the match and he got stick for that, he didn't yesterday, he went for it and I thought Eastwood made it look worse than it was. Poor decision by the ref, but agree on the whole for his first game at this level he didn't do too bad over the 90 minutes
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Agree on two of the cards - can't comment on the Thompson one as I didn't see what he did to get his. The booking for Williams was ridiculous. Two players going hell for leather for the ball and one got there a fraction before the other. It was a completely accidental collision and nothing reckless or malicious in it at all. Williams would quite rightly have received disapproval from the manager if he hadn't tried to win the ball. I thought the ref did OK overall though. Not sure why so many people were having a go at him when he was talking to PDC.[/p][/quote]Yeah Den, Williams shirked out on a 50/50 with the goalie against Donnie that could have won us the match and he got stick for that, he didn't yesterday, he went for it and I thought Eastwood made it look worse than it was. Poor decision by the ref, but agree on the whole for his first game at this level he didn't do too bad over the 90 minutes old town robin
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4:02pm Wed 2 Jan 13

ChrisWantageRed says...

old town robin wrote:
Oi Den! wrote: Agree on two of the cards - can't comment on the Thompson one as I didn't see what he did to get his. The booking for Williams was ridiculous. Two players going hell for leather for the ball and one got there a fraction before the other. It was a completely accidental collision and nothing reckless or malicious in it at all. Williams would quite rightly have received disapproval from the manager if he hadn't tried to win the ball. I thought the ref did OK overall though. Not sure why so many people were having a go at him when he was talking to PDC.
Yeah Den, Williams shirked out on a 50/50 with the goalie against Donnie that could have won us the match and he got stick for that, he didn't yesterday, he went for it and I thought Eastwood made it look worse than it was. Poor decision by the ref, but agree on the whole for his first game at this level he didn't do too bad over the 90 minutes
Absolutely, the ball was clearly there to be won and Williams was completely within his rights to go for it. To receive a yellow card for that is nonsense.

If I remember correctly (it's a bit hazy now), I remember thinking Thompson's challenge was a tad rash. But it should be said that some of the Pompey players were getting away with murder with some of the blatant shoving in the back that was going on, but I guess that might have been part of the game plan to disrupt, unsettle and frustrate our lads.
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Agree on two of the cards - can't comment on the Thompson one as I didn't see what he did to get his. The booking for Williams was ridiculous. Two players going hell for leather for the ball and one got there a fraction before the other. It was a completely accidental collision and nothing reckless or malicious in it at all. Williams would quite rightly have received disapproval from the manager if he hadn't tried to win the ball. I thought the ref did OK overall though. Not sure why so many people were having a go at him when he was talking to PDC.[/p][/quote]Yeah Den, Williams shirked out on a 50/50 with the goalie against Donnie that could have won us the match and he got stick for that, he didn't yesterday, he went for it and I thought Eastwood made it look worse than it was. Poor decision by the ref, but agree on the whole for his first game at this level he didn't do too bad over the 90 minutes[/p][/quote]Absolutely, the ball was clearly there to be won and Williams was completely within his rights to go for it. To receive a yellow card for that is nonsense. If I remember correctly (it's a bit hazy now), I remember thinking Thompson's challenge was a tad rash. But it should be said that some of the Pompey players were getting away with murder with some of the blatant shoving in the back that was going on, but I guess that might have been part of the game plan to disrupt, unsettle and frustrate our lads. ChrisWantageRed
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4:24pm Wed 2 Jan 13

STFCman&boy1973 says...

billbst wrote:
MITTED wrote: I have listened to the radio interviews, and as others have already said, I think Paolo was of the mindset, "If you don't ask, you don't get" but equally he also said that he would get on with the job if the answer was "no more money". There was no tantrum, no threat, it was just Paolo being his usual honest self. What did concern me was the chairman's interview, which I felt was unimpressive to say the least. Too much was left to be read between the lines, which was either foolhardy or deliberate. I have not been impressed with our new chairman - his performance so far, is reminiscent of previous newbury-based regimes.
I agree about Paolo. He has managed the last few weeks quite well I think. As regards Sir Will he has done what I expected. Curb Paolo's spending expectations and prepare for major boardroom changes. Second order issue was ground development and now seems to have slipped back further and clearly will not happen under the current board structure. On the positive side Sir Will obviously doesn't want to intefere on the footballing side beyond setting and sticking to the budget. Can't see any windfall income from sales of Austin. Doubt the Brums consider a purchase of a full back a priority given their finances and they already have a loan deal. Certainly not early doors. Therefore a juggling act with returning loanees and keeping ones here. Mr Spencer step foward and earn your corn please. With the possible exception of Benson our loanees are probably on their way back. If I were at Charlton I would say thanks very much and keep Hollands. Ward won't go back just hope he will agree a short term deal with us. Martin seems a good extension prospect. Bostock might have to go to balance the wages. Depite what has been said lately Adam Rooney's loan deal will have to be renegotiated if Paolo wants another striker. Again why would the Brums want to change. The good news must be that we have a very competitive squad and this time there will be no big changes to disturb the consistency. We will get to the championship on current resources. The summer will critical. Thank you Mr Black for all you have done but please don't throw us back to those dank dismal days.
great posts guys, cheered me up... :)

Just though it was to good to be true, on the up for the second season in a row, I believe the last time was under Mr Macari, 1985-1986 and 1986-1987???...

Im probably to tense about whats going on, just expect the worse, it usally happens...

Davey Gravy you been a fan for what...18 months, it gets worse as a Swindon fan, it has been very bad for us this centary alone, I wont mention money in brown paper bags, double relagation, while Spurs, Chelski, Man U got away with worse...

Mong out...
[quote][p][bold]billbst[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MITTED[/bold] wrote: I have listened to the radio interviews, and as others have already said, I think Paolo was of the mindset, "If you don't ask, you don't get" but equally he also said that he would get on with the job if the answer was "no more money". There was no tantrum, no threat, it was just Paolo being his usual honest self. What did concern me was the chairman's interview, which I felt was unimpressive to say the least. Too much was left to be read between the lines, which was either foolhardy or deliberate. I have not been impressed with our new chairman - his performance so far, is reminiscent of previous newbury-based regimes.[/p][/quote]I agree about Paolo. He has managed the last few weeks quite well I think. As regards Sir Will he has done what I expected. Curb Paolo's spending expectations and prepare for major boardroom changes. Second order issue was ground development and now seems to have slipped back further and clearly will not happen under the current board structure. On the positive side Sir Will obviously doesn't want to intefere on the footballing side beyond setting and sticking to the budget. Can't see any windfall income from sales of Austin. Doubt the Brums consider a purchase of a full back a priority given their finances and they already have a loan deal. Certainly not early doors. Therefore a juggling act with returning loanees and keeping ones here. Mr Spencer step foward and earn your corn please. With the possible exception of Benson our loanees are probably on their way back. If I were at Charlton I would say thanks very much and keep Hollands. Ward won't go back just hope he will agree a short term deal with us. Martin seems a good extension prospect. Bostock might have to go to balance the wages. Depite what has been said lately Adam Rooney's loan deal will have to be renegotiated if Paolo wants another striker. Again why would the Brums want to change. The good news must be that we have a very competitive squad and this time there will be no big changes to disturb the consistency. We will get to the championship on current resources. The summer will critical. Thank you Mr Black for all you have done but please don't throw us back to those dank dismal days.[/p][/quote]great posts guys, cheered me up... :) Just though it was to good to be true, on the up for the second season in a row, I believe the last time was under Mr Macari, 1985-1986 and 1986-1987???... Im probably to tense about whats going on, just expect the worse, it usally happens... Davey Gravy you been a fan for what...18 months, it gets worse as a Swindon fan, it has been very bad for us this centary alone, I wont mention money in brown paper bags, double relagation, while Spurs, Chelski, Man U got away with worse... Mong out... STFCman&boy1973
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4:32pm Wed 2 Jan 13

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

Old Town why would you eat in Paolo's deli? Truely shocking as it has been for years.

Personally I'd like Andrew Black to make a statement. He comes across as someone who doesn't suffer fools easily and is direct. Be good if Sam could scoop an interview?

Personally see Bostock as a massive signing for the future of this club and hope we get him a la Super Wes. I hope we sign Ward, Hollands and Martin but Bostock is the one for me.

Anyway we'll win the league, we've the best defence and joint equal best attack.
Old Town why would you eat in Paolo's deli? Truely shocking as it has been for years. Personally I'd like Andrew Black to make a statement. He comes across as someone who doesn't suffer fools easily and is direct. Be good if Sam could scoop an interview? Personally see Bostock as a massive signing for the future of this club and hope we get him a la Super Wes. I hope we sign Ward, Hollands and Martin but Bostock is the one for me. Anyway we'll win the league, we've the best defence and joint equal best attack. dreamofacleansheet2
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4:43pm Wed 2 Jan 13

old town robin says...

brown paper bags, double relagation, while Spurs, Chelski, Man U got away with worse...

Was speaking with a Sunderland fan today, don't know him it was business but we spoke about our relegation and their undeserved promotion, told him ossie was very unlucky tio inherit the aftermath of others, he asked about how good was Hoddle, well can't say he did a bad job as a player or manager, but hardly goes down in my book as a legend when he walked out on us.
brown paper bags, double relagation, while Spurs, Chelski, Man U got away with worse... Was speaking with a Sunderland fan today, don't know him it was business but we spoke about our relegation and their undeserved promotion, told him ossie was very unlucky tio inherit the aftermath of others, he asked about how good was Hoddle, well can't say he did a bad job as a player or manager, but hardly goes down in my book as a legend when he walked out on us. old town robin
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4:47pm Wed 2 Jan 13

red white says...

old town robin wrote:
brown paper bags, double relagation, while Spurs, Chelski, Man U got away with worse...

Was speaking with a Sunderland fan today, don't know him it was business but we spoke about our relegation and their undeserved promotion, told him ossie was very unlucky tio inherit the aftermath of others, he asked about how good was Hoddle, well can't say he did a bad job as a player or manager, but hardly goes down in my book as a legend when he walked out on us.
Agree,we won it to the top,never liked them since and Ossie never recovered from that.

Glenn never did really well either.

Both outstanding players tho.
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: brown paper bags, double relagation, while Spurs, Chelski, Man U got away with worse... Was speaking with a Sunderland fan today, don't know him it was business but we spoke about our relegation and their undeserved promotion, told him ossie was very unlucky tio inherit the aftermath of others, he asked about how good was Hoddle, well can't say he did a bad job as a player or manager, but hardly goes down in my book as a legend when he walked out on us.[/p][/quote]Agree,we won it to the top,never liked them since and Ossie never recovered from that. Glenn never did really well either. Both outstanding players tho. red white
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5:10pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Wilesy says...

madterrier wrote:
killerontheloose wrote: Mate, you've just won the last 2 games 5-0 , why do you need to invest any more..........might be the response!
Obviously the answer to that is that the loan deals for Ward, Bostock, Hollands and Martin end in a few days' time and Paolo wants to keep those players, for which funding for additional wages are needed. You could argue (as Black probably does) that the squad is already large enough, the biggest in League One, and Paolo should get more from the players he bought originally rather than ignore them and clamour for loan signings instead. From the off I always assumed that Patey's brief was to find new investors. It is possible to interpret this as meaning 'new' investors in the form of additional investors rather than replacement ones, to spread the load, or new investors for the holding company and the ground development. But I assume that Andrew Black wants out. He's a horse racing man, not a football man. The word 'investor' is daft anyway. Investment is usually made to secure a return, i.e. make profit. All that people do with football clubs is squander their money. I guess most people get tired of that, whatever their personal wealth. So you have to find 'investors' like Abramovic or Arab sheikhs who are happy to squander their money in return for the kudos and ego boost of having a top football club as a plaything. What I would agree with though is that the club would be more attractive to sell on if it is the Championship. And this season is a golden opportunity. The calibre of opposition is nothing compared to the likes of Leeds, Soton, Norwich, Charlton, Huddersfiled and Millwall who we had to battle it out with last time. So a little push across the line in the form of more wages for these players (who in the case of Ward and Hollands are better than our own) could just about be interpreted as 'investment' albeit very short term. But how would they get their additional investment back? That said, if we get to the Championship, the players we would need to stay there would be on high enough wages to make sure that we just leverage up financially and still make an operating loss. Most of the clubs in the Championship are in dire financial straits, even with much bigger attendances than we get. As any surfer will tell you, you just have to ride the wave until it peters out, and enjoy it while you do.
Good points madterrier

Assuming Andrew Black wants out why now, is it solely down to his stock trading issue? I don't quite understand why he is on his own what has happened to the other board memebers, have they put money into the club and if so how much. If nothing what is their role?

I don't think the horse racing v football preference is relevant - why get involved in the first place if that was the case, and especially why now.

It was indeed a disappointing interview with SWP. Over the last few seasons there has been plenty of talk of our cash-rich, wealthy board with good council relationships, watch this space on the CG redevelopment, Town End to be revamped this summer etc etc and now SWP is implying we are back at square one, administration is just round the corner if we're not careful, and our board haven't got a pot to p*ss in so forget any new players.

Maybe I am interpreting the comments a bit negatively and assuming no news is bad news, but your final comment of riding the wave til it peters out is very true and we should definitely enjoy the Paolo ride while it lasts.
[quote][p][bold]madterrier[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killerontheloose[/bold] wrote: Mate, you've just won the last 2 games 5-0 , why do you need to invest any more..........might be the response![/p][/quote]Obviously the answer to that is that the loan deals for Ward, Bostock, Hollands and Martin end in a few days' time and Paolo wants to keep those players, for which funding for additional wages are needed. You could argue (as Black probably does) that the squad is already large enough, the biggest in League One, and Paolo should get more from the players he bought originally rather than ignore them and clamour for loan signings instead. From the off I always assumed that Patey's brief was to find new investors. It is possible to interpret this as meaning 'new' investors in the form of additional investors rather than replacement ones, to spread the load, or new investors for the holding company and the ground development. But I assume that Andrew Black wants out. He's a horse racing man, not a football man. The word 'investor' is daft anyway. Investment is usually made to secure a return, i.e. make profit. All that people do with football clubs is squander their money. I guess most people get tired of that, whatever their personal wealth. So you have to find 'investors' like Abramovic or Arab sheikhs who are happy to squander their money in return for the kudos and ego boost of having a top football club as a plaything. What I would agree with though is that the club would be more attractive to sell on if it is the Championship. And this season is a golden opportunity. The calibre of opposition is nothing compared to the likes of Leeds, Soton, Norwich, Charlton, Huddersfiled and Millwall who we had to battle it out with last time. So a little push across the line in the form of more wages for these players (who in the case of Ward and Hollands are better than our own) could just about be interpreted as 'investment' albeit very short term. But how would they get their additional investment back? That said, if we get to the Championship, the players we would need to stay there would be on high enough wages to make sure that we just leverage up financially and still make an operating loss. Most of the clubs in the Championship are in dire financial straits, even with much bigger attendances than we get. As any surfer will tell you, you just have to ride the wave until it peters out, and enjoy it while you do.[/p][/quote]Good points madterrier Assuming Andrew Black wants out why now, is it solely down to his stock trading issue? I don't quite understand why he is on his own what has happened to the other board memebers, have they put money into the club and if so how much. If nothing what is their role? I don't think the horse racing v football preference is relevant - why get involved in the first place if that was the case, and especially why now. It was indeed a disappointing interview with SWP. Over the last few seasons there has been plenty of talk of our cash-rich, wealthy board with good council relationships, watch this space on the CG redevelopment, Town End to be revamped this summer etc etc and now SWP is implying we are back at square one, administration is just round the corner if we're not careful, and our board haven't got a pot to p*ss in so forget any new players. Maybe I am interpreting the comments a bit negatively and assuming no news is bad news, but your final comment of riding the wave til it peters out is very true and we should definitely enjoy the Paolo ride while it lasts. Wilesy
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5:15pm Wed 2 Jan 13

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

HA HA were is LondonRed when we nead him to explain all this too use...

Come on chaps you dint think a rich man would just throw money in2 a pot again and again do you...
We had a budget at the start of May..
We spent it ....
J Wray got sacked as chairman as Mr Black was not happy with the budget almost gone after just 10 games..
and please dont blame the football tribunal as we new it was comeing up
HA HA were is LondonRed when we nead him to explain all this too use... Come on chaps you dint think a rich man would just throw money in2 a pot again and again do you... We had a budget at the start of May.. We spent it .... J Wray got sacked as chairman as Mr Black was not happy with the budget almost gone after just 10 games.. and please dont blame the football tribunal as we new it was comeing up DarrenSTFCRomain
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5:18pm Wed 2 Jan 13

old town robin says...

dreamofacleansheet2 wrote:
Old Town why would you eat in Paolo's deli? Truely shocking as it has been for years.

Personally I'd like Andrew Black to make a statement. He comes across as someone who doesn't suffer fools easily and is direct. Be good if Sam could scoop an interview?

Personally see Bostock as a massive signing for the future of this club and hope we get him a la Super Wes. I hope we sign Ward, Hollands and Martin but Bostock is the one for me.

Anyway we'll win the league, we've the best defence and joint equal best attack.
Dream, if you read my post I never eat food at the CG, my son (33) and grandson (5) might because they are hungry buggers and expect to have their choice available at half time,

Agree with the rest of your comments
Lol
[quote][p][bold]dreamofacleansheet2[/bold] wrote: Old Town why would you eat in Paolo's deli? Truely shocking as it has been for years. Personally I'd like Andrew Black to make a statement. He comes across as someone who doesn't suffer fools easily and is direct. Be good if Sam could scoop an interview? Personally see Bostock as a massive signing for the future of this club and hope we get him a la Super Wes. I hope we sign Ward, Hollands and Martin but Bostock is the one for me. Anyway we'll win the league, we've the best defence and joint equal best attack.[/p][/quote]Dream, if you read my post I never eat food at the CG, my son (33) and grandson (5) might because they are hungry buggers and expect to have their choice available at half time, Agree with the rest of your comments Lol old town robin
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5:19pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Swindon1984 says...

Wilesy wrote:
madterrier wrote:
killerontheloose wrote: Mate, you've just won the last 2 games 5-0 , why do you need to invest any more..........might be the response!
Obviously the answer to that is that the loan deals for Ward, Bostock, Hollands and Martin end in a few days' time and Paolo wants to keep those players, for which funding for additional wages are needed. You could argue (as Black probably does) that the squad is already large enough, the biggest in League One, and Paolo should get more from the players he bought originally rather than ignore them and clamour for loan signings instead. From the off I always assumed that Patey's brief was to find new investors. It is possible to interpret this as meaning 'new' investors in the form of additional investors rather than replacement ones, to spread the load, or new investors for the holding company and the ground development. But I assume that Andrew Black wants out. He's a horse racing man, not a football man. The word 'investor' is daft anyway. Investment is usually made to secure a return, i.e. make profit. All that people do with football clubs is squander their money. I guess most people get tired of that, whatever their personal wealth. So you have to find 'investors' like Abramovic or Arab sheikhs who are happy to squander their money in return for the kudos and ego boost of having a top football club as a plaything. What I would agree with though is that the club would be more attractive to sell on if it is the Championship. And this season is a golden opportunity. The calibre of opposition is nothing compared to the likes of Leeds, Soton, Norwich, Charlton, Huddersfiled and Millwall who we had to battle it out with last time. So a little push across the line in the form of more wages for these players (who in the case of Ward and Hollands are better than our own) could just about be interpreted as 'investment' albeit very short term. But how would they get their additional investment back? That said, if we get to the Championship, the players we would need to stay there would be on high enough wages to make sure that we just leverage up financially and still make an operating loss. Most of the clubs in the Championship are in dire financial straits, even with much bigger attendances than we get. As any surfer will tell you, you just have to ride the wave until it peters out, and enjoy it while you do.
Good points madterrier Assuming Andrew Black wants out why now, is it solely down to his stock trading issue? I don't quite understand why he is on his own what has happened to the other board memebers, have they put money into the club and if so how much. If nothing what is their role? I don't think the horse racing v football preference is relevant - why get involved in the first place if that was the case, and especially why now. It was indeed a disappointing interview with SWP. Over the last few seasons there has been plenty of talk of our cash-rich, wealthy board with good council relationships, watch this space on the CG redevelopment, Town End to be revamped this summer etc etc and now SWP is implying we are back at square one, administration is just round the corner if we're not careful, and our board haven't got a pot to p*ss in so forget any new players. Maybe I am interpreting the comments a bit negatively and assuming no news is bad news, but your final comment of riding the wave til it peters out is very true and we should definitely enjoy the Paolo ride while it lasts.
Mr DiCanio's wild ride! Can't help but be sceptical of the whole thing myself also. As has been said it's normally when we think things are heading the right way when the ground falls from under us - Promotion followed by instant demotion and Hoddle taking us up only to scarper and leave us vulnerable for another relegation just two shining examples of that. It does make you cynical of new faces coming in and making promises because half of you might be optimistic, but the other half is screaming "heard it all before." As you say, enjoy the good times whilst we have them, no-one knows what the future will bring.

If Pompey have taught us anything it's that for clubs of a certain size, the higher they rise, the more vulnerable they become. With that in mind, would love promotion this year but after that a couple of seasons of establishing ourselves in the Championship whilst maintaining the financial security of the club would do just fine.
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]madterrier[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killerontheloose[/bold] wrote: Mate, you've just won the last 2 games 5-0 , why do you need to invest any more..........might be the response![/p][/quote]Obviously the answer to that is that the loan deals for Ward, Bostock, Hollands and Martin end in a few days' time and Paolo wants to keep those players, for which funding for additional wages are needed. You could argue (as Black probably does) that the squad is already large enough, the biggest in League One, and Paolo should get more from the players he bought originally rather than ignore them and clamour for loan signings instead. From the off I always assumed that Patey's brief was to find new investors. It is possible to interpret this as meaning 'new' investors in the form of additional investors rather than replacement ones, to spread the load, or new investors for the holding company and the ground development. But I assume that Andrew Black wants out. He's a horse racing man, not a football man. The word 'investor' is daft anyway. Investment is usually made to secure a return, i.e. make profit. All that people do with football clubs is squander their money. I guess most people get tired of that, whatever their personal wealth. So you have to find 'investors' like Abramovic or Arab sheikhs who are happy to squander their money in return for the kudos and ego boost of having a top football club as a plaything. What I would agree with though is that the club would be more attractive to sell on if it is the Championship. And this season is a golden opportunity. The calibre of opposition is nothing compared to the likes of Leeds, Soton, Norwich, Charlton, Huddersfiled and Millwall who we had to battle it out with last time. So a little push across the line in the form of more wages for these players (who in the case of Ward and Hollands are better than our own) could just about be interpreted as 'investment' albeit very short term. But how would they get their additional investment back? That said, if we get to the Championship, the players we would need to stay there would be on high enough wages to make sure that we just leverage up financially and still make an operating loss. Most of the clubs in the Championship are in dire financial straits, even with much bigger attendances than we get. As any surfer will tell you, you just have to ride the wave until it peters out, and enjoy it while you do.[/p][/quote]Good points madterrier Assuming Andrew Black wants out why now, is it solely down to his stock trading issue? I don't quite understand why he is on his own what has happened to the other board memebers, have they put money into the club and if so how much. If nothing what is their role? I don't think the horse racing v football preference is relevant - why get involved in the first place if that was the case, and especially why now. It was indeed a disappointing interview with SWP. Over the last few seasons there has been plenty of talk of our cash-rich, wealthy board with good council relationships, watch this space on the CG redevelopment, Town End to be revamped this summer etc etc and now SWP is implying we are back at square one, administration is just round the corner if we're not careful, and our board haven't got a pot to p*ss in so forget any new players. Maybe I am interpreting the comments a bit negatively and assuming no news is bad news, but your final comment of riding the wave til it peters out is very true and we should definitely enjoy the Paolo ride while it lasts.[/p][/quote]Mr DiCanio's wild ride! Can't help but be sceptical of the whole thing myself also. As has been said it's normally when we think things are heading the right way when the ground falls from under us - Promotion followed by instant demotion and Hoddle taking us up only to scarper and leave us vulnerable for another relegation just two shining examples of that. It does make you cynical of new faces coming in and making promises because half of you might be optimistic, but the other half is screaming "heard it all before." As you say, enjoy the good times whilst we have them, no-one knows what the future will bring. If Pompey have taught us anything it's that for clubs of a certain size, the higher they rise, the more vulnerable they become. With that in mind, would love promotion this year but after that a couple of seasons of establishing ourselves in the Championship whilst maintaining the financial security of the club would do just fine. Swindon1984
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5:23pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Davidsyrett says...

old town robin wrote:
brown paper bags, double relagation, while Spurs, Chelski, Man U got away with worse...

Was speaking with a Sunderland fan today, don't know him it was business but we spoke about our relegation and their undeserved promotion, told him ossie was very unlucky tio inherit the aftermath of others, he asked about how good was Hoddle, well can't say he did a bad job as a player or manager, but hardly goes down in my book as a legend when he walked out on us.
Can't agree with that, During Hoddle's & Ossie's reign in charge, Swindon played some of the best football ever seen at the CG, and watching Hoddle was worth the admission price alone (OK alot less then!) . They're still the only manager's to lead us to the Premiership, and lets face it, every other successful manager has walked away from us, including Macari.

For me Danny Williams, Hoddle, Ossie and Macari are legends, PDC could soon join that list if we get promoted!
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: brown paper bags, double relagation, while Spurs, Chelski, Man U got away with worse... Was speaking with a Sunderland fan today, don't know him it was business but we spoke about our relegation and their undeserved promotion, told him ossie was very unlucky tio inherit the aftermath of others, he asked about how good was Hoddle, well can't say he did a bad job as a player or manager, but hardly goes down in my book as a legend when he walked out on us.[/p][/quote]Can't agree with that, During Hoddle's & Ossie's reign in charge, Swindon played some of the best football ever seen at the CG, and watching Hoddle was worth the admission price alone (OK alot less then!) . They're still the only manager's to lead us to the Premiership, and lets face it, every other successful manager has walked away from us, including Macari. For me Danny Williams, Hoddle, Ossie and Macari are legends, PDC could soon join that list if we get promoted! Davidsyrett
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5:54pm Wed 2 Jan 13

mallorca says...

Well after 24 hours I now think still this new Chairman has a job to do he has no interest in STFC other than find a buyer.
As to Mr Black I guess who can blame him for wanting a way out as let's face it much as we all support Pdc he has made some big time errors and has blown his budget in a short space of time.
Still he has done us proud and at the end of the day we are 5th games in hand and what a goal difference.
I cannot see Mr Black walking away without trying to recoup some of his investment not just yet anyway.
My only concern is this new Chairman my force Pdc to sell some of his squad.
However in that senereo he would be foolish as posts have said if we do have a decent run stay with the leaders and maybe get promoted or play offs this would generate money.
So let's wait and see what happens at this Board meeting.
Mr Black should get rid of this pompus chairman and save the money he pays him.
Wish pdc and team all the best and hope they go on a super run
Well after 24 hours I now think still this new Chairman has a job to do he has no interest in STFC other than find a buyer. As to Mr Black I guess who can blame him for wanting a way out as let's face it much as we all support Pdc he has made some big time errors and has blown his budget in a short space of time. Still he has done us proud and at the end of the day we are 5th games in hand and what a goal difference. I cannot see Mr Black walking away without trying to recoup some of his investment not just yet anyway. My only concern is this new Chairman my force Pdc to sell some of his squad. However in that senereo he would be foolish as posts have said if we do have a decent run stay with the leaders and maybe get promoted or play offs this would generate money. So let's wait and see what happens at this Board meeting. Mr Black should get rid of this pompus chairman and save the money he pays him. Wish pdc and team all the best and hope they go on a super run mallorca
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6:01pm Wed 2 Jan 13

candlestrobe says...

Seems to me that now ground 'redevelopment' is off the agenda, there's simply no money to be made from the club. Has been a common story over the years with all the different investors we've had has it not?

I would like the Adver to get on this and get a view from the council (and club) on what's stalling matters. Not holding my breath though.
Seems to me that now ground 'redevelopment' is off the agenda, there's simply no money to be made from the club. Has been a common story over the years with all the different investors we've had has it not? I would like the Adver to get on this and get a view from the council (and club) on what's stalling matters. Not holding my breath though. candlestrobe
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6:37pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Dover Red says...

candlestrobe wrote:
Seems to me that now ground 'redevelopment' is off the agenda, there's simply no money to be made from the club. Has been a common story over the years with all the different investors we've had has it not?

I would like the Adver to get on this and get a view from the council (and club) on what's stalling matters. Not holding my breath though.
It will always be so, we dont own the ground and that will always be an anchor holding the club back.
[quote][p][bold]candlestrobe[/bold] wrote: Seems to me that now ground 'redevelopment' is off the agenda, there's simply no money to be made from the club. Has been a common story over the years with all the different investors we've had has it not? I would like the Adver to get on this and get a view from the council (and club) on what's stalling matters. Not holding my breath though.[/p][/quote]It will always be so, we dont own the ground and that will always be an anchor holding the club back. Dover Red
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6:51pm Wed 2 Jan 13

jayden says...

old town robin wrote:
LeGod wrote:
i hear rumours are flying around about Bournemouth making an approach for Ritchie again. I hope what i'm hearing is wrong as he is key to us being successful this season but with their ridiculous offer last time they would need to up it considerably if they did make an offer.
Ritchie would be foolish to go to Bournemouth yes they have the russian money but it is only a loan and i can see that going pear shaped soon as well down there. At the moment they are doing well but they are a smaller club than us and if they went up to the championship i couldnt see them coping and with a ground that only hold around 9,500 i couldnt see them sustaining the wages in the championship.
Last time they bid for Ritchie Paolo said it would need to be 2-2.5 million especially when you consider they paid 800k for Tubbs who spent mosr of his career at Salisbury.
Ritchie likes playing for Paolo but if he did go and an offer comes in it would be Patey and Black i believe would make a decision over Paolo and then i could see him walking.
i hope i am totally wrong in my comments but i'm sure some bids will come in for some of our players.
A message to Patey if you want the best price fro this club the championship is where you will get it so Paolo needs to keep this squad together otherwise our value and stock will decline along with your valuation of the club.
I;m not liking what i hear from the chairman with his comments at all.
We all need to support the players 100% and especially Paolo.
I saw at half time yesterday some idiot booed at Ritchie turned round to him and told him to shut up and its idiot fans like that we dont want. How can anyone boo at half time when there is another 45 minutes to go. Thats the way football is you can have two extreme's of halves in football and some idiot fan who did that yesterday needs to get real as were not going to dominate and play good football for 90 minutes every game. Portsmouth packed the midfield to spoil the game and for 50 minutes it worked. So for the idiot fan who booed understand football a bit before you open your big mouth again.
The guy who sits next to me in the Arkells gives me constant earache with his negativity with regards matt, he heard from somewhere that Brighton were going to make a bid for him. As with you, I don't want to see Matt or any of the present squad sold off just to balance the books and if it did happen without the consent of Paolo, I agree I think he would go. Let's hope none of the rumours have any credibility.
I find with these part time fans is tell them what you think i told 2 at the tranmere match about their swearing as their were young kids sat in front so they got up and left,mind you they had missed 3 of the goals anyway .
[quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LeGod[/bold] wrote: i hear rumours are flying around about Bournemouth making an approach for Ritchie again. I hope what i'm hearing is wrong as he is key to us being successful this season but with their ridiculous offer last time they would need to up it considerably if they did make an offer. Ritchie would be foolish to go to Bournemouth yes they have the russian money but it is only a loan and i can see that going pear shaped soon as well down there. At the moment they are doing well but they are a smaller club than us and if they went up to the championship i couldnt see them coping and with a ground that only hold around 9,500 i couldnt see them sustaining the wages in the championship. Last time they bid for Ritchie Paolo said it would need to be 2-2.5 million especially when you consider they paid 800k for Tubbs who spent mosr of his career at Salisbury. Ritchie likes playing for Paolo but if he did go and an offer comes in it would be Patey and Black i believe would make a decision over Paolo and then i could see him walking. i hope i am totally wrong in my comments but i'm sure some bids will come in for some of our players. A message to Patey if you want the best price fro this club the championship is where you will get it so Paolo needs to keep this squad together otherwise our value and stock will decline along with your valuation of the club. I;m not liking what i hear from the chairman with his comments at all. We all need to support the players 100% and especially Paolo. I saw at half time yesterday some idiot booed at Ritchie turned round to him and told him to shut up and its idiot fans like that we dont want. How can anyone boo at half time when there is another 45 minutes to go. Thats the way football is you can have two extreme's of halves in football and some idiot fan who did that yesterday needs to get real as were not going to dominate and play good football for 90 minutes every game. Portsmouth packed the midfield to spoil the game and for 50 minutes it worked. So for the idiot fan who booed understand football a bit before you open your big mouth again.[/p][/quote]The guy who sits next to me in the Arkells gives me constant earache with his negativity with regards matt, he heard from somewhere that Brighton were going to make a bid for him. As with you, I don't want to see Matt or any of the present squad sold off just to balance the books and if it did happen without the consent of Paolo, I agree I think he would go. Let's hope none of the rumours have any credibility.[/p][/quote]I find with these part time fans is tell them what you think i told 2 at the tranmere match about their swearing as their were young kids sat in front so they got up and left,mind you they had missed 3 of the goals anyway . jayden
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6:54pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Wilesy says...

With the financial position seemingly a bit tenuous and a sore topic for SWP, I wonder if SWP has been given a timescale on finding investment?

Presumably Mr Black is paying SWP to carry out his role so I would hope he is getting a bit more than 'no comment, next question'.

Hopefully someone at the club will be able to divulge a little bit in the near future with one eye on recruitment for next season, if not the longer term ground redevelopment.
With the financial position seemingly a bit tenuous and a sore topic for SWP, I wonder if SWP has been given a timescale on finding investment? Presumably Mr Black is paying SWP to carry out his role so I would hope he is getting a bit more than 'no comment, next question'. Hopefully someone at the club will be able to divulge a little bit in the near future with one eye on recruitment for next season, if not the longer term ground redevelopment. Wilesy
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6:56pm Wed 2 Jan 13

old town robin says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
old town robin wrote:
brown paper bags, double relagation, while Spurs, Chelski, Man U got away with worse...

Was speaking with a Sunderland fan today, don't know him it was business but we spoke about our relegation and their undeserved promotion, told him ossie was very unlucky tio inherit the aftermath of others, he asked about how good was Hoddle, well can't say he did a bad job as a player or manager, but hardly goes down in my book as a legend when he walked out on us.
Can't agree with that, During Hoddle's & Ossie's reign in charge, Swindon played some of the best football ever seen at the CG, and watching Hoddle was worth the admission price alone (OK alot less then!) . They're still the only manager's to lead us to the Premiership, and lets face it, every other successful manager has walked away from us, including Macari.

For me Danny Williams, Hoddle, Ossie and Macari are legends, PDC could soon join that list if we get promoted!
Dave, not sure why you don't agree ythat Hoddle is not a legend, I never said we didn't play great football under Hoddle or Ossie, I did say IMO Glen is not a legend as he walked out on us when we needed him most. We all have opinions but would agree Danny Williams had it all, really like Macari as well, Bert Head was a very under estimated manager. my bruv played under him and has nothing but good things to say about him.

legernds are built on commitment and IMO Hoddle just used us as a stepping stone.
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: brown paper bags, double relagation, while Spurs, Chelski, Man U got away with worse... Was speaking with a Sunderland fan today, don't know him it was business but we spoke about our relegation and their undeserved promotion, told him ossie was very unlucky tio inherit the aftermath of others, he asked about how good was Hoddle, well can't say he did a bad job as a player or manager, but hardly goes down in my book as a legend when he walked out on us.[/p][/quote]Can't agree with that, During Hoddle's & Ossie's reign in charge, Swindon played some of the best football ever seen at the CG, and watching Hoddle was worth the admission price alone (OK alot less then!) . They're still the only manager's to lead us to the Premiership, and lets face it, every other successful manager has walked away from us, including Macari. For me Danny Williams, Hoddle, Ossie and Macari are legends, PDC could soon join that list if we get promoted![/p][/quote]Dave, not sure why you don't agree ythat Hoddle is not a legend, I never said we didn't play great football under Hoddle or Ossie, I did say IMO Glen is not a legend as he walked out on us when we needed him most. We all have opinions but would agree Danny Williams had it all, really like Macari as well, Bert Head was a very under estimated manager. my bruv played under him and has nothing but good things to say about him. legernds are built on commitment and IMO Hoddle just used us as a stepping stone. old town robin
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7:08pm Wed 2 Jan 13

smirg kcab says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
old town robin wrote:
brown paper bags, double relagation, while Spurs, Chelski, Man U got away with worse...

Was speaking with a Sunderland fan today, don't know him it was business but we spoke about our relegation and their undeserved promotion, told him ossie was very unlucky tio inherit the aftermath of others, he asked about how good was Hoddle, well can't say he did a bad job as a player or manager, but hardly goes down in my book as a legend when he walked out on us.
Can't agree with that, During Hoddle's & Ossie's reign in charge, Swindon played some of the best football ever seen at the CG, and watching Hoddle was worth the admission price alone (OK alot less then!) . They're still the only manager's to lead us to the Premiership, and lets face it, every other successful manager has walked away from us, including Macari.

For me Danny Williams, Hoddle, Ossie and Macari are legends, PDC could soon join that list if we get promoted!
Don't forget Wilson he was a legend, sorry I mean bellend
Onwards and upwards
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: brown paper bags, double relagation, while Spurs, Chelski, Man U got away with worse... Was speaking with a Sunderland fan today, don't know him it was business but we spoke about our relegation and their undeserved promotion, told him ossie was very unlucky tio inherit the aftermath of others, he asked about how good was Hoddle, well can't say he did a bad job as a player or manager, but hardly goes down in my book as a legend when he walked out on us.[/p][/quote]Can't agree with that, During Hoddle's & Ossie's reign in charge, Swindon played some of the best football ever seen at the CG, and watching Hoddle was worth the admission price alone (OK alot less then!) . They're still the only manager's to lead us to the Premiership, and lets face it, every other successful manager has walked away from us, including Macari. For me Danny Williams, Hoddle, Ossie and Macari are legends, PDC could soon join that list if we get promoted![/p][/quote]Don't forget Wilson he was a legend, sorry I mean bellend Onwards and upwards smirg kcab
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7:23pm Wed 2 Jan 13

old town robin says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
old town robin wrote:
brown paper bags, double relagation, while Spurs, Chelski, Man U got away with worse...

Was speaking with a Sunderland fan today, don't know him it was business but we spoke about our relegation and their undeserved promotion, told him ossie was very unlucky tio inherit the aftermath of others, he asked about how good was Hoddle, well can't say he did a bad job as a player or manager, but hardly goes down in my book as a legend when he walked out on us.
Can't agree with that, During Hoddle's & Ossie's reign in charge, Swindon played some of the best football ever seen at the CG, and watching Hoddle was worth the admission price alone (OK alot less then!) . They're still the only manager's to lead us to the Premiership, and lets face it, every other successful manager has walked away from us, including Macari.

For me Danny Williams, Hoddle, Ossie and Macari are legends, PDC could soon join that list if we get promoted!
Don't forget Wilson he was a legend, sorry I mean bellend
Onwards and upwards
Nice one Grim, the state of their pitch, Wilson would have been better off making an offer for Mr Cassidy rather than stealing Jean Francois. I see Donnie being the biggest challenger to us, not the Blades who will have to fight it out again in the play-offs.
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: brown paper bags, double relagation, while Spurs, Chelski, Man U got away with worse... Was speaking with a Sunderland fan today, don't know him it was business but we spoke about our relegation and their undeserved promotion, told him ossie was very unlucky tio inherit the aftermath of others, he asked about how good was Hoddle, well can't say he did a bad job as a player or manager, but hardly goes down in my book as a legend when he walked out on us.[/p][/quote]Can't agree with that, During Hoddle's & Ossie's reign in charge, Swindon played some of the best football ever seen at the CG, and watching Hoddle was worth the admission price alone (OK alot less then!) . They're still the only manager's to lead us to the Premiership, and lets face it, every other successful manager has walked away from us, including Macari. For me Danny Williams, Hoddle, Ossie and Macari are legends, PDC could soon join that list if we get promoted![/p][/quote]Don't forget Wilson he was a legend, sorry I mean bellend Onwards and upwards[/p][/quote]Nice one Grim, the state of their pitch, Wilson would have been better off making an offer for Mr Cassidy rather than stealing Jean Francois. I see Donnie being the biggest challenger to us, not the Blades who will have to fight it out again in the play-offs. old town robin
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7:26pm Wed 2 Jan 13

mikek says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
old town robin wrote:
brown paper bags, double relagation, while Spurs, Chelski, Man U got away with worse...

Was speaking with a Sunderland fan today, don't know him it was business but we spoke about our relegation and their undeserved promotion, told him ossie was very unlucky tio inherit the aftermath of others, he asked about how good was Hoddle, well can't say he did a bad job as a player or manager, but hardly goes down in my book as a legend when he walked out on us.
Can't agree with that, During Hoddle's & Ossie's reign in charge, Swindon played some of the best football ever seen at the CG, and watching Hoddle was worth the admission price alone (OK alot less then!) . They're still the only manager's to lead us to the Premiership, and lets face it, every other successful manager has walked away from us, including Macari.

For me Danny Williams, Hoddle, Ossie and Macari are legends, PDC could soon join that list if we get promoted!
Don't forget Wilson he was a legend, sorry I mean bellend
Onwards and upwards
Hi Grim happy new year bud. I wonder if Wilson's bubble is about to burst, scraped a last minute draw at Donny yesterday who we should have put another 5 past a few weeks back and lost to one of the worst Div one teams ever Hartypule and I have wondered if Paul Hart is up there casting his spells. That lump of cardboard Wilson foldy arms will have a decline very soon and this could be the start as his history states clearly that he is a one season wonder. Me thinks its time to get the euro millions up and buy the club Grim and give Paolo the extra tools he needs to get the Di Canio express into the championship. Roll on Saturday and lets keep another clean sheet and hit 7 or 8 in the other end and get Martin up and running too. Another goal feast would be nice. I see Sue was at the county ground yesterday Grim getting a big portion ....................
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[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: brown paper bags, double relagation, while Spurs, Chelski, Man U got away with worse... Was speaking with a Sunderland fan today, don't know him it was business but we spoke about our relegation and their undeserved promotion, told him ossie was very unlucky tio inherit the aftermath of others, he asked about how good was Hoddle, well can't say he did a bad job as a player or manager, but hardly goes down in my book as a legend when he walked out on us.[/p][/quote]Can't agree with that, During Hoddle's & Ossie's reign in charge, Swindon played some of the best football ever seen at the CG, and watching Hoddle was worth the admission price alone (OK alot less then!) . They're still the only manager's to lead us to the Premiership, and lets face it, every other successful manager has walked away from us, including Macari. For me Danny Williams, Hoddle, Ossie and Macari are legends, PDC could soon join that list if we get promoted![/p][/quote]Don't forget Wilson he was a legend, sorry I mean bellend Onwards and upwards[/p][/quote]Hi Grim happy new year bud. I wonder if Wilson's bubble is about to burst, scraped a last minute draw at Donny yesterday who we should have put another 5 past a few weeks back and lost to one of the worst Div one teams ever Hartypule and I have wondered if Paul Hart is up there casting his spells. That lump of cardboard Wilson foldy arms will have a decline very soon and this could be the start as his history states clearly that he is a one season wonder. Me thinks its time to get the euro millions up and buy the club Grim and give Paolo the extra tools he needs to get the Di Canio express into the championship. Roll on Saturday and lets keep another clean sheet and hit 7 or 8 in the other end and get Martin up and running too. Another goal feast would be nice. I see Sue was at the county ground yesterday Grim getting a big portion .................... .................... ........... (of chips) mikek
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7:28pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Robin of Andover says...

Groundhog day: Town doing good, manager asks for support from the board; board ask "why, you're doing ok". Manager and supporters frustrated at the board response, again.
This is the best chance we have of getting promoted to the Championship, I plead to the board to support PDC now. If you wont back him now, what chance of backing from the board can PDC expect should we find ourselves in the Championship. Its no good after missing this fantastic opportunity to look back and say "We should have backed PDC's request when he asked for it". We have a good team, a brilliant manager, great supporters and we all want the same success for the Town . . . so come on Directors, lets see a fantastic Board . . . please
Groundhog day: Town doing good, manager asks for support from the board; board ask "why, you're doing ok". Manager and supporters frustrated at the board response, again. This is the best chance we have of getting promoted to the Championship, I plead to the board to support PDC now. If you wont back him now, what chance of backing from the board can PDC expect should we find ourselves in the Championship. Its no good after missing this fantastic opportunity to look back and say "We should have backed PDC's request when he asked for it". We have a good team, a brilliant manager, great supporters and we all want the same success for the Town . . . so come on Directors, lets see a fantastic Board . . . please Robin of Andover
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7:31pm Wed 2 Jan 13

jayden says...

Oi Den! wrote:
I left the ground yesterday on cloud nine and arrived home feeling pretty low, having heard a rerun of the Chairman's pre-match interview.
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I have no quibble with Sir William telling us we have no money for new players. Fine - we've spent a fortune for our level and we've built a good squad. It is completely unrealistic to suggest that anyone, however wealthy, should keep plugging the financial gaps.
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But, as others have commented, our Chairman leaves too much unsaid on many important issues affecting the club. He refused to acknowledge the obvious hostility between Di Canio and Bodin. He is utterly evasive on the subject of ground redevelopment. He talks of new investors and new owners but gives no indication of Andrew Black's intended involvement from now on. It's the kind of doublespeak many people will recognise from the corporate bullsh*itters they've met.
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To be fair to Shaun Hodgetts, he tried hard to get straight answers from Patey but maybe the questions need to be more direct, such as:
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Does the club no longer have any intention of redeveloping the County Ground or relocating? If that's the case, what has changed from all the bold statements of recent years? We were told 18 months ago that things were put back by a year because of relegation. Well, that one is well and truly put to bed now. We are told we need property expertise on the board. Why? What is wrong with employing the expertise of property consultants? I don't imagine anyone is going to provide services for nothing, even with a place on the board.
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Does Sir William care about the club or its supporters? I'm afraid it doesn't sound like it.
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Back to the football... Excellent second half, once we made the obvious change of putting a ball player in central midfield. Collins did superbly but to be fair to Williams and Martin, they received very poor service in the first half. Ferry transformed that.
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There's a strong sense that something special is happening on the football side of our club. But Sir William's evasiveness makes me edgy and reluctant to get carried away. We are Town fans. We have enough experience of b*llsh*t to recognise its distinctive smell.
Hi Den yep i agree with you on most of that but Williams had a great chance put though with a great ball from macca.Trouble with him he likes to drift wide and can beat men for fun with his pace but tends to panic when hes done the hard part also thought Martin was poor just followed Williams into the same holes having said that we over played around the box and Matt was forced into the middle of the pitch because williams driffted out wide.Ferry changed the game he always wants to pass wide and brought both wide players and full backs into the game .Collins movement and anticipation was much better hes set a marker for himself you could tell Pdc has worked with him on this he must take this on from here I think this was the frustration with AC last season he would do it for one game then go back to his oldway the next game.It will be intresting to see if he is as sharp from a start rather than as a sub.We must meet up soon Den .
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: I left the ground yesterday on cloud nine and arrived home feeling pretty low, having heard a rerun of the Chairman's pre-match interview. . I have no quibble with Sir William telling us we have no money for new players. Fine - we've spent a fortune for our level and we've built a good squad. It is completely unrealistic to suggest that anyone, however wealthy, should keep plugging the financial gaps. . But, as others have commented, our Chairman leaves too much unsaid on many important issues affecting the club. He refused to acknowledge the obvious hostility between Di Canio and Bodin. He is utterly evasive on the subject of ground redevelopment. He talks of new investors and new owners but gives no indication of Andrew Black's intended involvement from now on. It's the kind of doublespeak many people will recognise from the corporate bullsh*itters they've met. . To be fair to Shaun Hodgetts, he tried hard to get straight answers from Patey but maybe the questions need to be more direct, such as: . Does the club no longer have any intention of redeveloping the County Ground or relocating? If that's the case, what has changed from all the bold statements of recent years? We were told 18 months ago that things were put back by a year because of relegation. Well, that one is well and truly put to bed now. We are told we need property expertise on the board. Why? What is wrong with employing the expertise of property consultants? I don't imagine anyone is going to provide services for nothing, even with a place on the board. . Does Sir William care about the club or its supporters? I'm afraid it doesn't sound like it. . Back to the football... Excellent second half, once we made the obvious change of putting a ball player in central midfield. Collins did superbly but to be fair to Williams and Martin, they received very poor service in the first half. Ferry transformed that. . There's a strong sense that something special is happening on the football side of our club. But Sir William's evasiveness makes me edgy and reluctant to get carried away. We are Town fans. We have enough experience of b*llsh*t to recognise its distinctive smell.[/p][/quote]Hi Den yep i agree with you on most of that but Williams had a great chance put though with a great ball from macca.Trouble with him he likes to drift wide and can beat men for fun with his pace but tends to panic when hes done the hard part also thought Martin was poor just followed Williams into the same holes having said that we over played around the box and Matt was forced into the middle of the pitch because williams driffted out wide.Ferry changed the game he always wants to pass wide and brought both wide players and full backs into the game .Collins movement and anticipation was much better hes set a marker for himself you could tell Pdc has worked with him on this he must take this on from here I think this was the frustration with AC last season he would do it for one game then go back to his oldway the next game.It will be intresting to see if he is as sharp from a start rather than as a sub.We must meet up soon Den . jayden
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7:34pm Wed 2 Jan 13

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

Robin of Andover wrote:
Groundhog day: Town doing good, manager asks for support from the board; board ask "why, you're doing ok". Manager and supporters frustrated at the board response, again. This is the best chance we have of getting promoted to the Championship, I plead to the board to support PDC now. If you wont back him now, what chance of backing from the board can PDC expect should we find ourselves in the Championship. Its no good after missing this fantastic opportunity to look back and say "We should have backed PDC's request when he asked for it". We have a good team, a brilliant manager, great supporters and we all want the same success for the Town . . . so come on Directors, lets see a fantastic Board . . . please
The board have backed Paolo from day 1.
Paolo has spent this seasons budget and more..
Sounds harsh but it true
[quote][p][bold]Robin of Andover[/bold] wrote: Groundhog day: Town doing good, manager asks for support from the board; board ask "why, you're doing ok". Manager and supporters frustrated at the board response, again. This is the best chance we have of getting promoted to the Championship, I plead to the board to support PDC now. If you wont back him now, what chance of backing from the board can PDC expect should we find ourselves in the Championship. Its no good after missing this fantastic opportunity to look back and say "We should have backed PDC's request when he asked for it". We have a good team, a brilliant manager, great supporters and we all want the same success for the Town . . . so come on Directors, lets see a fantastic Board . . . please[/p][/quote]The board have backed Paolo from day 1. Paolo has spent this seasons budget and more.. Sounds harsh but it true DarrenSTFCRomain
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7:37pm Wed 2 Jan 13

aturner289 says...

Told buy a friend who is a cardiff supporter Wes Foderingham could be set for a move away from the County Ground in this January transfer window with Millwall, Cardiff and Brighton considering a bid for him hope this aint true.
Told buy a friend who is a cardiff supporter Wes Foderingham could be set for a move away from the County Ground in this January transfer window with Millwall, Cardiff and Brighton considering a bid for him hope this aint true. aturner289
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7:41pm Wed 2 Jan 13

the don69 says...

The problem is chaps,we don't know didley sh1t,what the very quiet and mysterious Andrew Black has in mind for our beloved club?from what Patey said on the radio,sounds like he wants out!with Fitton gone,J-Wray sacked,that leaves Black and what about Arbib?what we would love is an interview from Black,but the chances of that happening seem nil,all this talk of investment in football clubs is cr@p!you blow your dosh in football clubs!there rich mens toys,the current premier champions lost £100 million quid,until players wages are under control there is no way a successful football club can make a profit,because good players wages are sky high and if you don't pay the wages,the good players go to another club!the Swindon Town Roller-coaster continues,just when we're on the up,there's a down a round the corner,so all we can do is watch and wait to see what Black's intentions are?????????????????
The problem is chaps,we don't know didley sh1t,what the very quiet and mysterious Andrew Black has in mind for our beloved club?from what Patey said on the radio,sounds like he wants out!with Fitton gone,J-Wray sacked,that leaves Black and what about Arbib?what we would love is an interview from Black,but the chances of that happening seem nil,all this talk of investment in football clubs is cr@p!you blow your dosh in football clubs!there rich mens toys,the current premier champions lost £100 million quid,until players wages are under control there is no way a successful football club can make a profit,because good players wages are sky high and if you don't pay the wages,the good players go to another club!the Swindon Town Roller-coaster continues,just when we're on the up,there's a down a round the corner,so all we can do is watch and wait to see what Black's intentions are????????????????? the don69
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7:45pm Wed 2 Jan 13

jayden says...

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
Robin of Andover wrote:
Groundhog day: Town doing good, manager asks for support from the board; board ask "why, you're doing ok". Manager and supporters frustrated at the board response, again. This is the best chance we have of getting promoted to the Championship, I plead to the board to support PDC now. If you wont back him now, what chance of backing from the board can PDC expect should we find ourselves in the Championship. Its no good after missing this fantastic opportunity to look back and say "We should have backed PDC's request when he asked for it". We have a good team, a brilliant manager, great supporters and we all want the same success for the Town . . . so come on Directors, lets see a fantastic Board . . . please
The board have backed Paolo from day 1.
Paolo has spent this seasons budget and more..
Sounds harsh but it true
Hi Darren yep all true bit like her in doors as spent the holiday money on christmas thats life sill its better to waste it than stick it in the bank. Have a great new year and "stay lucky"
[quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Andover[/bold] wrote: Groundhog day: Town doing good, manager asks for support from the board; board ask "why, you're doing ok". Manager and supporters frustrated at the board response, again. This is the best chance we have of getting promoted to the Championship, I plead to the board to support PDC now. If you wont back him now, what chance of backing from the board can PDC expect should we find ourselves in the Championship. Its no good after missing this fantastic opportunity to look back and say "We should have backed PDC's request when he asked for it". We have a good team, a brilliant manager, great supporters and we all want the same success for the Town . . . so come on Directors, lets see a fantastic Board . . . please[/p][/quote]The board have backed Paolo from day 1. Paolo has spent this seasons budget and more.. Sounds harsh but it true[/p][/quote]Hi Darren yep all true bit like her in doors as spent the holiday money on christmas thats life sill its better to waste it than stick it in the bank. Have a great new year and "stay lucky" jayden
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7:52pm Wed 2 Jan 13

mikek says...

the don69 wrote:
The problem is chaps,we don't know didley sh1t,what the very quiet and mysterious Andrew Black has in mind for our beloved club?from what Patey said on the radio,sounds like he wants out!with Fitton gone,J-Wray sacked,that leaves Black and what about Arbib?what we would love is an interview from Black,but the chances of that happening seem nil,all this talk of investment in football clubs is cr@p!you blow your dosh in football clubs!there rich mens toys,the current premier champions lost £100 million quid,until players wages are under control there is no way a successful football club can make a profit,because good players wages are sky high and if you don't pay the wages,the good players go to another club!the Swindon Town Roller-coaster continues,just when we're on the up,there's a down a round the corner,so all we can do is watch and wait to see what Black's intentions are?????????????????
In a nutshell we really need to hear from Black himself and no puppets or stooges sent out to blag it. Wray was asked to stay at the club when Patey came in but declined so I do have a feeling he knows something that us fans don't about the future. I have wondered if Fitton and Wray could find backers to launch a takeover of the club because all this silence is not good. Come on Mr Black lets hear it from the horses mouth please the future of our club????? we need answers.
[quote][p][bold]the don69[/bold] wrote: The problem is chaps,we don't know didley sh1t,what the very quiet and mysterious Andrew Black has in mind for our beloved club?from what Patey said on the radio,sounds like he wants out!with Fitton gone,J-Wray sacked,that leaves Black and what about Arbib?what we would love is an interview from Black,but the chances of that happening seem nil,all this talk of investment in football clubs is cr@p!you blow your dosh in football clubs!there rich mens toys,the current premier champions lost £100 million quid,until players wages are under control there is no way a successful football club can make a profit,because good players wages are sky high and if you don't pay the wages,the good players go to another club!the Swindon Town Roller-coaster continues,just when we're on the up,there's a down a round the corner,so all we can do is watch and wait to see what Black's intentions are?????????????????[/p][/quote]In a nutshell we really need to hear from Black himself and no puppets or stooges sent out to blag it. Wray was asked to stay at the club when Patey came in but declined so I do have a feeling he knows something that us fans don't about the future. I have wondered if Fitton and Wray could find backers to launch a takeover of the club because all this silence is not good. Come on Mr Black lets hear it from the horses mouth please the future of our club????? we need answers. mikek
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8:01pm Wed 2 Jan 13

umpcah says...

aturner289 wrote:
Told buy a friend who is a cardiff supporter Wes Foderingham could be set for a move away from the County Ground in this January transfer window with Millwall, Cardiff and Brighton considering a bid for him hope this aint true.
My friend who is a Charlton supporter says that`s rubbish !
[quote][p][bold]aturner289[/bold] wrote: Told buy a friend who is a cardiff supporter Wes Foderingham could be set for a move away from the County Ground in this January transfer window with Millwall, Cardiff and Brighton considering a bid for him hope this aint true.[/p][/quote]My friend who is a Charlton supporter says that`s rubbish ! umpcah
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8:05pm Wed 2 Jan 13

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

jayden wrote:
DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
Robin of Andover wrote: Groundhog day: Town doing good, manager asks for support from the board; board ask "why, you're doing ok". Manager and supporters frustrated at the board response, again. This is the best chance we have of getting promoted to the Championship, I plead to the board to support PDC now. If you wont back him now, what chance of backing from the board can PDC expect should we find ourselves in the Championship. Its no good after missing this fantastic opportunity to look back and say "We should have backed PDC's request when he asked for it". We have a good team, a brilliant manager, great supporters and we all want the same success for the Town . . . so come on Directors, lets see a fantastic Board . . . please
The board have backed Paolo from day 1. Paolo has spent this seasons budget and more.. Sounds harsh but it true
Hi Darren yep all true bit like her in doors as spent the holiday money on christmas thats life sill its better to waste it than stick it in the bank. Have a great new year and "stay lucky"
and you mate ..
When you see Brentford steve next give him a slap..lol
[quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Andover[/bold] wrote: Groundhog day: Town doing good, manager asks for support from the board; board ask "why, you're doing ok". Manager and supporters frustrated at the board response, again. This is the best chance we have of getting promoted to the Championship, I plead to the board to support PDC now. If you wont back him now, what chance of backing from the board can PDC expect should we find ourselves in the Championship. Its no good after missing this fantastic opportunity to look back and say "We should have backed PDC's request when he asked for it". We have a good team, a brilliant manager, great supporters and we all want the same success for the Town . . . so come on Directors, lets see a fantastic Board . . . please[/p][/quote]The board have backed Paolo from day 1. Paolo has spent this seasons budget and more.. Sounds harsh but it true[/p][/quote]Hi Darren yep all true bit like her in doors as spent the holiday money on christmas thats life sill its better to waste it than stick it in the bank. Have a great new year and "stay lucky"[/p][/quote]and you mate .. When you see Brentford steve next give him a slap..lol DarrenSTFCRomain
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9:02pm Wed 2 Jan 13

LydiardRED67 says...

Like most it was mixed feelings yesterday. Great win followed by the worrying Patey interview. (which I listened to online after the game).

It would be interesting to know the circumstanced under which Andrew Black become the sole owner. Fitton we know about, but what of Arbib?

Something tells me we haven't heard the last of Fitton and Wray. Wray declined his "role" following being chairman and both remain with collateral in the club which Patey was supposed to negotiate away but couldn't.

Another thought on the ground redevelopment may be that the Council refuse to sell the land. If true, this would not only scupper the current owners plans but also make the club less attractive to potential buyers.

I agree with most that I don't believe Andrew Black will just walk away, I also think that if there is a quick sale on the cards PDC has not heard as he would undoubtidly tell all.

I do remember thinking when they took over that I don't like consortiums remembering the shambles that the Brady/Donegan fiasco ended up as.

Anyway, lets hope Paolo can wheeler deal the current squad and retain the current loans until the end of the season which ought to be good enough to compete at the very top of this league.
Like most it was mixed feelings yesterday. Great win followed by the worrying Patey interview. (which I listened to online after the game). It would be interesting to know the circumstanced under which Andrew Black become the sole owner. Fitton we know about, but what of Arbib? Something tells me we haven't heard the last of Fitton and Wray. Wray declined his "role" following being chairman and both remain with collateral in the club which Patey was supposed to negotiate away but couldn't. Another thought on the ground redevelopment may be that the Council refuse to sell the land. If true, this would not only scupper the current owners plans but also make the club less attractive to potential buyers. I agree with most that I don't believe Andrew Black will just walk away, I also think that if there is a quick sale on the cards PDC has not heard as he would undoubtidly tell all. I do remember thinking when they took over that I don't like consortiums remembering the shambles that the Brady/Donegan fiasco ended up as. Anyway, lets hope Paolo can wheeler deal the current squad and retain the current loans until the end of the season which ought to be good enough to compete at the very top of this league. LydiardRED67
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9:40pm Wed 2 Jan 13

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

How comes this interview with Patey has not made headline news...
How comes this interview with Patey has not made headline news... DarrenSTFCRomain
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9:49pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Stilloyal says...

I heard that Focus doitall are buying the club for a £1.00 and want to build a new store there .


Stop worrying and panicking. just revel in the last couple of results and look forward to being top of the league by February.
I heard that Focus doitall are buying the club for a £1.00 and want to build a new store there . Stop worrying and panicking. just revel in the last couple of results and look forward to being top of the league by February. Stilloyal
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10:53pm Wed 2 Jan 13

the wizard says...

aturner289 wrote:
Told buy a friend who is a cardiff supporter Wes Foderingham could be set for a move away from the County Ground in this January transfer window with Millwall, Cardiff and Brighton considering a bid for him hope this aint true.
Very similar post to the rumour site, with the clubs quoted in the same order, hmmmmmmm.

Funny but they all have good cover in the GK dept. Can't see us releasing Sir Wes, unless the asset strippers move in.
[quote][p][bold]aturner289[/bold] wrote: Told buy a friend who is a cardiff supporter Wes Foderingham could be set for a move away from the County Ground in this January transfer window with Millwall, Cardiff and Brighton considering a bid for him hope this aint true.[/p][/quote]Very similar post to the rumour site, with the clubs quoted in the same order, hmmmmmmm. Funny but they all have good cover in the GK dept. Can't see us releasing Sir Wes, unless the asset strippers move in. the wizard
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10:57pm Wed 2 Jan 13

candlestrobe says...

"Another thought on the ground redevelopment may be that the Council refuse to sell the land. If true, this would not only scupper the current owners plans but also make the club less attractive to potential buyers."


Finally .. the penny's dropping. Adver, send your sports boy in to get answers (or is he waiting for this to be discussed on the radio first)?
"Another thought on the ground redevelopment may be that the Council refuse to sell the land. If true, this would not only scupper the current owners plans but also make the club less attractive to potential buyers." Finally .. the penny's dropping. Adver, send your sports boy in to get answers (or is he waiting for this to be discussed on the radio first)? candlestrobe
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12:31am Thu 3 Jan 13

jedthered says...

The biggest problem Andrew Black has discovered IMO is that it is practicaly impossible to develope the CG.
The stratton bank being one of the main reasons, you will never be able to develope because of all the houses behind it. as soon as there is any mention of it being redeveloped the residents there are on the phone to the council saying no way, as it will be blocking out their natural light. then their was the plan to buy back the ground from the council and then sell the land to a developer, cant happen , there is a covenant on the land saying that it can only be used for sporting purposes. As far as i can see we need someone with a lot more money than Mr Black, whos prepared to fund a new stadium out of his own pocket, and write of the CG as a tax loss. Finding some one who is willing to gamble and make money from STFC are on a hiding to nothing.
But hey ho , as my good friend the Grim Reaper says ,"Onward and Upward"
The biggest problem Andrew Black has discovered IMO is that it is practicaly impossible to develope the CG. The stratton bank being one of the main reasons, you will never be able to develope because of all the houses behind it. as soon as there is any mention of it being redeveloped the residents there are on the phone to the council saying no way, as it will be blocking out their natural light. then their was the plan to buy back the ground from the council and then sell the land to a developer, cant happen , there is a covenant on the land saying that it can only be used for sporting purposes. As far as i can see we need someone with a lot more money than Mr Black, whos prepared to fund a new stadium out of his own pocket, and write of the CG as a tax loss. Finding some one who is willing to gamble and make money from STFC are on a hiding to nothing. But hey ho , as my good friend the Grim Reaper says ,"Onward and Upward" jedthered
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1:44am Thu 3 Jan 13

STFCman&boy1973 says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
old town robin wrote:
brown paper bags, double relagation, while Spurs, Chelski, Man U got away with worse...

Was speaking with a Sunderland fan today, don't know him it was business but we spoke about our relegation and their undeserved promotion, told him ossie was very unlucky tio inherit the aftermath of others, he asked about how good was Hoddle, well can't say he did a bad job as a player or manager, but hardly goes down in my book as a legend when he walked out on us.
Can't agree with that, During Hoddle's & Ossie's reign in charge, Swindon played some of the best football ever seen at the CG, and watching Hoddle was worth the admission price alone (OK alot less then!) . They're still the only manager's to lead us to the Premiership, and lets face it, every other successful manager has walked away from us, including Macari.

For me Danny Williams, Hoddle, Ossie and Macari are legends, PDC could soon join that list if we get promoted!
Agree we played great football under Hoddle, but the way he left us, on the bus through the town, he knew he was going, left a sour taste in the mouth...
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]old town robin[/bold] wrote: brown paper bags, double relagation, while Spurs, Chelski, Man U got away with worse... Was speaking with a Sunderland fan today, don't know him it was business but we spoke about our relegation and their undeserved promotion, told him ossie was very unlucky tio inherit the aftermath of others, he asked about how good was Hoddle, well can't say he did a bad job as a player or manager, but hardly goes down in my book as a legend when he walked out on us.[/p][/quote]Can't agree with that, During Hoddle's & Ossie's reign in charge, Swindon played some of the best football ever seen at the CG, and watching Hoddle was worth the admission price alone (OK alot less then!) . They're still the only manager's to lead us to the Premiership, and lets face it, every other successful manager has walked away from us, including Macari. For me Danny Williams, Hoddle, Ossie and Macari are legends, PDC could soon join that list if we get promoted![/p][/quote]Agree we played great football under Hoddle, but the way he left us, on the bus through the town, he knew he was going, left a sour taste in the mouth... STFCman&boy1973
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8:47am Thu 3 Jan 13

LeGod says...

i cant see how anyone can say anything bad about Hoddle how you could have compared us a club with no money to Chelsea its a no brainer and if we were in his shoes we would have done the same.
We played some fantastic football under Hoddle and no one can take that away from him and he got us promoted to the premier league.
As far as i'm concerned he did our club proud and even that idiot Adrian Durham on Talk Sport even recognises we played great football under him.

Hoddle - Macari - Ardilles by far our best managers for this club by a long shot. Paolo will be the next as long as he is backed by our aloof chairman.
i cant see how anyone can say anything bad about Hoddle how you could have compared us a club with no money to Chelsea its a no brainer and if we were in his shoes we would have done the same. We played some fantastic football under Hoddle and no one can take that away from him and he got us promoted to the premier league. As far as i'm concerned he did our club proud and even that idiot Adrian Durham on Talk Sport even recognises we played great football under him. Hoddle - Macari - Ardilles by far our best managers for this club by a long shot. Paolo will be the next as long as he is backed by our aloof chairman. LeGod
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10:07am Thu 3 Jan 13

Oi Den! says...

We played good football under Hoddle but most of his players were playing good football already. Macari dragged the club off the floor (with certain methods open to question), Ardiles turned the team into the most admired in the country and Hoddle was lucky enough to reap the benefits, albeit at a time when the players were demoralised. We did sign the legendary Shaun Taylor under Hoddle but I think it's a a cast iron certainty that John Gorman was the braind behind that move. Ardiles achieved far more with us than Hoddle did. Both reached the Premier League but under Hoddle we were miles behind the automatic promotion places and even (I think, as I haven't checked) 12 points behind 3rd. It was not Hoddle's leaving for Chelsea that left a sour taste. It was the way he lied about it. You talk about our aloof Chairman. I don't think I have ever known a more aloof Town manager than Hoddle. He showed nothing like the interest in the town and fans that Macari and Ardiles demonstrated. Hoddle comes nowhere near those two in my book. PDC has some way to go to catch them but not too far to go to overtake Hoddle - in my opinion of course. For good measure, I think Bert Head and Danny Williams would be ahead of Hoddle too.
We played good football under Hoddle but most of his players were playing good football already. Macari dragged the club off the floor (with certain methods open to question), Ardiles turned the team into the most admired in the country and Hoddle was lucky enough to reap the benefits, albeit at a time when the players were demoralised. We did sign the legendary Shaun Taylor under Hoddle but I think it's a a cast iron certainty that John Gorman was the braind behind that move. Ardiles achieved far more with us than Hoddle did. Both reached the Premier League but under Hoddle we were miles behind the automatic promotion places and even (I think, as I haven't checked) 12 points behind 3rd. It was not Hoddle's leaving for Chelsea that left a sour taste. It was the way he lied about it. You talk about our aloof Chairman. I don't think I have ever known a more aloof Town manager than Hoddle. He showed nothing like the interest in the town and fans that Macari and Ardiles demonstrated. Hoddle comes nowhere near those two in my book. PDC has some way to go to catch them but not too far to go to overtake Hoddle - in my opinion of course. For good measure, I think Bert Head and Danny Williams would be ahead of Hoddle too. Oi Den!
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10:19am Thu 3 Jan 13

MITTED says...

jedthered wrote:
The biggest problem Andrew Black has discovered IMO is that it is practicaly impossible to develope the CG.
The stratton bank being one of the main reasons, you will never be able to develope because of all the houses behind it. as soon as there is any mention of it being redeveloped the residents there are on the phone to the council saying no way, as it will be blocking out their natural light. then their was the plan to buy back the ground from the council and then sell the land to a developer, cant happen , there is a covenant on the land saying that it can only be used for sporting purposes. As far as i can see we need someone with a lot more money than Mr Black, whos prepared to fund a new stadium out of his own pocket, and write of the CG as a tax loss. Finding some one who is willing to gamble and make money from STFC are on a hiding to nothing.
But hey ho , as my good friend the Grim Reaper says ,"Onward and Upward"
You are mistaken. The covenant is for recreation purposes, not "sporting". The difference is very important because councils officially recognise shopping as recreation in this modern age, therefore, Tesco for example could build a superstore on the site. This is verbatim from a local councillor.

Right to light is arguable but the problem is simply resolved by building a new stadium rougly where the athletics track is currently and and then move the athletics track to where the current stadium is. The only reason that this hasn't gone forward is because the board want to refurbish and partly rebuild the existing rather than a completely new stadium because it is cheaper. That said, after the chairman's interview on saturday, it seems obvious that Andrew Black wants out and is unlikely to spend a penny on a new stadium.
COYR
[quote][p][bold]jedthered[/bold] wrote: The biggest problem Andrew Black has discovered IMO is that it is practicaly impossible to develope the CG. The stratton bank being one of the main reasons, you will never be able to develope because of all the houses behind it. as soon as there is any mention of it being redeveloped the residents there are on the phone to the council saying no way, as it will be blocking out their natural light. then their was the plan to buy back the ground from the council and then sell the land to a developer, cant happen , there is a covenant on the land saying that it can only be used for sporting purposes. As far as i can see we need someone with a lot more money than Mr Black, whos prepared to fund a new stadium out of his own pocket, and write of the CG as a tax loss. Finding some one who is willing to gamble and make money from STFC are on a hiding to nothing. But hey ho , as my good friend the Grim Reaper says ,"Onward and Upward"[/p][/quote]You are mistaken. The covenant is for recreation purposes, not "sporting". The difference is very important because councils officially recognise shopping as recreation in this modern age, therefore, Tesco for example could build a superstore on the site. This is verbatim from a local councillor. Right to light is arguable but the problem is simply resolved by building a new stadium rougly where the athletics track is currently and and then move the athletics track to where the current stadium is. The only reason that this hasn't gone forward is because the board want to refurbish and partly rebuild the existing rather than a completely new stadium because it is cheaper. That said, after the chairman's interview on saturday, it seems obvious that Andrew Black wants out and is unlikely to spend a penny on a new stadium. COYR MITTED
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1:10pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Davidsyrett says...

MITTED wrote:
jedthered wrote:
The biggest problem Andrew Black has discovered IMO is that it is practicaly impossible to develope the CG.
The stratton bank being one of the main reasons, you will never be able to develope because of all the houses behind it. as soon as there is any mention of it being redeveloped the residents there are on the phone to the council saying no way, as it will be blocking out their natural light. then their was the plan to buy back the ground from the council and then sell the land to a developer, cant happen , there is a covenant on the land saying that it can only be used for sporting purposes. As far as i can see we need someone with a lot more money than Mr Black, whos prepared to fund a new stadium out of his own pocket, and write of the CG as a tax loss. Finding some one who is willing to gamble and make money from STFC are on a hiding to nothing.
But hey ho , as my good friend the Grim Reaper says ,"Onward and Upward"
You are mistaken. The covenant is for recreation purposes, not "sporting". The difference is very important because councils officially recognise shopping as recreation in this modern age, therefore, Tesco for example could build a superstore on the site. This is verbatim from a local councillor.

Right to light is arguable but the problem is simply resolved by building a new stadium rougly where the athletics track is currently and and then move the athletics track to where the current stadium is. The only reason that this hasn't gone forward is because the board want to refurbish and partly rebuild the existing rather than a completely new stadium because it is cheaper. That said, after the chairman's interview on saturday, it seems obvious that Andrew Black wants out and is unlikely to spend a penny on a new stadium.
COYR
What would be the point of building on the athletics track? The Council still own the land, we would still be in the same position as we are now. A new stadium will only be built on a new site.
[quote][p][bold]MITTED[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jedthered[/bold] wrote: The biggest problem Andrew Black has discovered IMO is that it is practicaly impossible to develope the CG. The stratton bank being one of the main reasons, you will never be able to develope because of all the houses behind it. as soon as there is any mention of it being redeveloped the residents there are on the phone to the council saying no way, as it will be blocking out their natural light. then their was the plan to buy back the ground from the council and then sell the land to a developer, cant happen , there is a covenant on the land saying that it can only be used for sporting purposes. As far as i can see we need someone with a lot more money than Mr Black, whos prepared to fund a new stadium out of his own pocket, and write of the CG as a tax loss. Finding some one who is willing to gamble and make money from STFC are on a hiding to nothing. But hey ho , as my good friend the Grim Reaper says ,"Onward and Upward"[/p][/quote]You are mistaken. The covenant is for recreation purposes, not "sporting". The difference is very important because councils officially recognise shopping as recreation in this modern age, therefore, Tesco for example could build a superstore on the site. This is verbatim from a local councillor. Right to light is arguable but the problem is simply resolved by building a new stadium rougly where the athletics track is currently and and then move the athletics track to where the current stadium is. The only reason that this hasn't gone forward is because the board want to refurbish and partly rebuild the existing rather than a completely new stadium because it is cheaper. That said, after the chairman's interview on saturday, it seems obvious that Andrew Black wants out and is unlikely to spend a penny on a new stadium. COYR[/p][/quote]What would be the point of building on the athletics track? The Council still own the land, we would still be in the same position as we are now. A new stadium will only be built on a new site. Davidsyrett
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1:53pm Thu 3 Jan 13

MITTED says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
MITTED wrote:
jedthered wrote:
The biggest problem Andrew Black has discovered IMO is that it is practicaly impossible to develope the CG.
The stratton bank being one of the main reasons, you will never be able to develope because of all the houses behind it. as soon as there is any mention of it being redeveloped the residents there are on the phone to the council saying no way, as it will be blocking out their natural light. then their was the plan to buy back the ground from the council and then sell the land to a developer, cant happen , there is a covenant on the land saying that it can only be used for sporting purposes. As far as i can see we need someone with a lot more money than Mr Black, whos prepared to fund a new stadium out of his own pocket, and write of the CG as a tax loss. Finding some one who is willing to gamble and make money from STFC are on a hiding to nothing.
But hey ho , as my good friend the Grim Reaper says ,"Onward and Upward"
You are mistaken. The covenant is for recreation purposes, not "sporting". The difference is very important because councils officially recognise shopping as recreation in this modern age, therefore, Tesco for example could build a superstore on the site. This is verbatim from a local councillor.

Right to light is arguable but the problem is simply resolved by building a new stadium rougly where the athletics track is currently and and then move the athletics track to where the current stadium is. The only reason that this hasn't gone forward is because the board want to refurbish and partly rebuild the existing rather than a completely new stadium because it is cheaper. That said, after the chairman's interview on saturday, it seems obvious that Andrew Black wants out and is unlikely to spend a penny on a new stadium.
COYR
What would be the point of building on the athletics track? The Council still own the land, we would still be in the same position as we are now. A new stadium will only be built on a new site.
because it's much further away from the Shrivenham Road residences that immediately back onto the Stratton Bank, ergo, can't complain about "right to light" issues.

Regarding the land ownership, if memory serves me correct, the club signed a new long-term lease on the land about 2 years ago, so no issue there although owning the freehold would be arguably better, the club would have to pay the going rate which is probably tens of millions. Some would argue that the owning the leasehold is better to save those tens of millions but still have a stadium. Its a business decision at the end of the day.
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MITTED[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jedthered[/bold] wrote: The biggest problem Andrew Black has discovered IMO is that it is practicaly impossible to develope the CG. The stratton bank being one of the main reasons, you will never be able to develope because of all the houses behind it. as soon as there is any mention of it being redeveloped the residents there are on the phone to the council saying no way, as it will be blocking out their natural light. then their was the plan to buy back the ground from the council and then sell the land to a developer, cant happen , there is a covenant on the land saying that it can only be used for sporting purposes. As far as i can see we need someone with a lot more money than Mr Black, whos prepared to fund a new stadium out of his own pocket, and write of the CG as a tax loss. Finding some one who is willing to gamble and make money from STFC are on a hiding to nothing. But hey ho , as my good friend the Grim Reaper says ,"Onward and Upward"[/p][/quote]You are mistaken. The covenant is for recreation purposes, not "sporting". The difference is very important because councils officially recognise shopping as recreation in this modern age, therefore, Tesco for example could build a superstore on the site. This is verbatim from a local councillor. Right to light is arguable but the problem is simply resolved by building a new stadium rougly where the athletics track is currently and and then move the athletics track to where the current stadium is. The only reason that this hasn't gone forward is because the board want to refurbish and partly rebuild the existing rather than a completely new stadium because it is cheaper. That said, after the chairman's interview on saturday, it seems obvious that Andrew Black wants out and is unlikely to spend a penny on a new stadium. COYR[/p][/quote]What would be the point of building on the athletics track? The Council still own the land, we would still be in the same position as we are now. A new stadium will only be built on a new site.[/p][/quote]because it's much further away from the Shrivenham Road residences that immediately back onto the Stratton Bank, ergo, can't complain about "right to light" issues. Regarding the land ownership, if memory serves me correct, the club signed a new long-term lease on the land about 2 years ago, so no issue there although owning the freehold would be arguably better, the club would have to pay the going rate which is probably tens of millions. Some would argue that the owning the leasehold is better to save those tens of millions but still have a stadium. Its a business decision at the end of the day. MITTED
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2:52pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Davidsyrett says...

MITTED wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
MITTED wrote:
jedthered wrote:
The biggest problem Andrew Black has discovered IMO is that it is practicaly impossible to develope the CG.
The stratton bank being one of the main reasons, you will never be able to develope because of all the houses behind it. as soon as there is any mention of it being redeveloped the residents there are on the phone to the council saying no way, as it will be blocking out their natural light. then their was the plan to buy back the ground from the council and then sell the land to a developer, cant happen , there is a covenant on the land saying that it can only be used for sporting purposes. As far as i can see we need someone with a lot more money than Mr Black, whos prepared to fund a new stadium out of his own pocket, and write of the CG as a tax loss. Finding some one who is willing to gamble and make money from STFC are on a hiding to nothing.
But hey ho , as my good friend the Grim Reaper says ,"Onward and Upward"
You are mistaken. The covenant is for recreation purposes, not "sporting". The difference is very important because councils officially recognise shopping as recreation in this modern age, therefore, Tesco for example could build a superstore on the site. This is verbatim from a local councillor.

Right to light is arguable but the problem is simply resolved by building a new stadium rougly where the athletics track is currently and and then move the athletics track to where the current stadium is. The only reason that this hasn't gone forward is because the board want to refurbish and partly rebuild the existing rather than a completely new stadium because it is cheaper. That said, after the chairman's interview on saturday, it seems obvious that Andrew Black wants out and is unlikely to spend a penny on a new stadium.
COYR
What would be the point of building on the athletics track? The Council still own the land, we would still be in the same position as we are now. A new stadium will only be built on a new site.
because it's much further away from the Shrivenham Road residences that immediately back onto the Stratton Bank, ergo, can't complain about "right to light" issues.

Regarding the land ownership, if memory serves me correct, the club signed a new long-term lease on the land about 2 years ago, so no issue there although owning the freehold would be arguably better, the club would have to pay the going rate which is probably tens of millions. Some would argue that the owning the leasehold is better to save those tens of millions but still have a stadium. Its a business decision at the end of the day.
Fair point, but comparing a new ground to say Leicester's,(the sort of size I assume we would be looking at)I think you would need more space, possibly moving it over the cricket ground may help, but I've never heard the club considering any of this, I would therefore feel there has to be many complications otherwise it sounds a more realistic idea than turning the ground around and taking up the car park.
[quote][p][bold]MITTED[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MITTED[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jedthered[/bold] wrote: The biggest problem Andrew Black has discovered IMO is that it is practicaly impossible to develope the CG. The stratton bank being one of the main reasons, you will never be able to develope because of all the houses behind it. as soon as there is any mention of it being redeveloped the residents there are on the phone to the council saying no way, as it will be blocking out their natural light. then their was the plan to buy back the ground from the council and then sell the land to a developer, cant happen , there is a covenant on the land saying that it can only be used for sporting purposes. As far as i can see we need someone with a lot more money than Mr Black, whos prepared to fund a new stadium out of his own pocket, and write of the CG as a tax loss. Finding some one who is willing to gamble and make money from STFC are on a hiding to nothing. But hey ho , as my good friend the Grim Reaper says ,"Onward and Upward"[/p][/quote]You are mistaken. The covenant is for recreation purposes, not "sporting". The difference is very important because councils officially recognise shopping as recreation in this modern age, therefore, Tesco for example could build a superstore on the site. This is verbatim from a local councillor. Right to light is arguable but the problem is simply resolved by building a new stadium rougly where the athletics track is currently and and then move the athletics track to where the current stadium is. The only reason that this hasn't gone forward is because the board want to refurbish and partly rebuild the existing rather than a completely new stadium because it is cheaper. That said, after the chairman's interview on saturday, it seems obvious that Andrew Black wants out and is unlikely to spend a penny on a new stadium. COYR[/p][/quote]What would be the point of building on the athletics track? The Council still own the land, we would still be in the same position as we are now. A new stadium will only be built on a new site.[/p][/quote]because it's much further away from the Shrivenham Road residences that immediately back onto the Stratton Bank, ergo, can't complain about "right to light" issues. Regarding the land ownership, if memory serves me correct, the club signed a new long-term lease on the land about 2 years ago, so no issue there although owning the freehold would be arguably better, the club would have to pay the going rate which is probably tens of millions. Some would argue that the owning the leasehold is better to save those tens of millions but still have a stadium. Its a business decision at the end of the day.[/p][/quote]Fair point, but comparing a new ground to say Leicester's,(the sort of size I assume we would be looking at)I think you would need more space, possibly moving it over the cricket ground may help, but I've never heard the club considering any of this, I would therefore feel there has to be many complications otherwise it sounds a more realistic idea than turning the ground around and taking up the car park. Davidsyrett
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3:10pm Thu 3 Jan 13

candlestrobe says...

Swap with Abbey stadium?
Swap with Abbey stadium? candlestrobe
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3:18pm Thu 3 Jan 13

MITTED says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
MITTED wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
MITTED wrote:
jedthered wrote:
The biggest problem Andrew Black has discovered IMO is that it is practicaly impossible to develope the CG.
The stratton bank being one of the main reasons, you will never be able to develope because of all the houses behind it. as soon as there is any mention of it being redeveloped the residents there are on the phone to the council saying no way, as it will be blocking out their natural light. then their was the plan to buy back the ground from the council and then sell the land to a developer, cant happen , there is a covenant on the land saying that it can only be used for sporting purposes. As far as i can see we need someone with a lot more money than Mr Black, whos prepared to fund a new stadium out of his own pocket, and write of the CG as a tax loss. Finding some one who is willing to gamble and make money from STFC are on a hiding to nothing.
But hey ho , as my good friend the Grim Reaper says ,"Onward and Upward"
You are mistaken. The covenant is for recreation purposes, not "sporting". The difference is very important because councils officially recognise shopping as recreation in this modern age, therefore, Tesco for example could build a superstore on the site. This is verbatim from a local councillor.

Right to light is arguable but the problem is simply resolved by building a new stadium rougly where the athletics track is currently and and then move the athletics track to where the current stadium is. The only reason that this hasn't gone forward is because the board want to refurbish and partly rebuild the existing rather than a completely new stadium because it is cheaper. That said, after the chairman's interview on saturday, it seems obvious that Andrew Black wants out and is unlikely to spend a penny on a new stadium.
COYR
What would be the point of building on the athletics track? The Council still own the land, we would still be in the same position as we are now. A new stadium will only be built on a new site.
because it's much further away from the Shrivenham Road residences that immediately back onto the Stratton Bank, ergo, can't complain about "right to light" issues.

Regarding the land ownership, if memory serves me correct, the club signed a new long-term lease on the land about 2 years ago, so no issue there although owning the freehold would be arguably better, the club would have to pay the going rate which is probably tens of millions. Some would argue that the owning the leasehold is better to save those tens of millions but still have a stadium. Its a business decision at the end of the day.
Fair point, but comparing a new ground to say Leicester's,(the sort of size I assume we would be looking at)I think you would need more space, possibly moving it over the cricket ground may help, but I've never heard the club considering any of this, I would therefore feel there has to be many complications otherwise it sounds a more realistic idea than turning the ground around and taking up the car park.
I can assure you that it has been considered (from my days with the Trust). Take a look at google maps, the athletics and grassed area is much bigger than the existing footprint for the stadium. A new enlarged stadium would easily fit but as I said, it would cost more. All irrelavent anyway unless Andrew Black has a change of mind.

FYI, another option that the old regime tried was to relocate the cricket club to a completely new site (they didn't say where though), so that the newbury-mafia could also build houses on the site and line their pockets as well! Unsurprisingly the cricket club said, 'no'!

Anyway, I can't wait for Saturday. I hope most if not all the extra fans from Tuesday make the effort again. The more the merrier!
COYR
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MITTED[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MITTED[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jedthered[/bold] wrote: The biggest problem Andrew Black has discovered IMO is that it is practicaly impossible to develope the CG. The stratton bank being one of the main reasons, you will never be able to develope because of all the houses behind it. as soon as there is any mention of it being redeveloped the residents there are on the phone to the council saying no way, as it will be blocking out their natural light. then their was the plan to buy back the ground from the council and then sell the land to a developer, cant happen , there is a covenant on the land saying that it can only be used for sporting purposes. As far as i can see we need someone with a lot more money than Mr Black, whos prepared to fund a new stadium out of his own pocket, and write of the CG as a tax loss. Finding some one who is willing to gamble and make money from STFC are on a hiding to nothing. But hey ho , as my good friend the Grim Reaper says ,"Onward and Upward"[/p][/quote]You are mistaken. The covenant is for recreation purposes, not "sporting". The difference is very important because councils officially recognise shopping as recreation in this modern age, therefore, Tesco for example could build a superstore on the site. This is verbatim from a local councillor. Right to light is arguable but the problem is simply resolved by building a new stadium rougly where the athletics track is currently and and then move the athletics track to where the current stadium is. The only reason that this hasn't gone forward is because the board want to refurbish and partly rebuild the existing rather than a completely new stadium because it is cheaper. That said, after the chairman's interview on saturday, it seems obvious that Andrew Black wants out and is unlikely to spend a penny on a new stadium. COYR[/p][/quote]What would be the point of building on the athletics track? The Council still own the land, we would still be in the same position as we are now. A new stadium will only be built on a new site.[/p][/quote]because it's much further away from the Shrivenham Road residences that immediately back onto the Stratton Bank, ergo, can't complain about "right to light" issues. Regarding the land ownership, if memory serves me correct, the club signed a new long-term lease on the land about 2 years ago, so no issue there although owning the freehold would be arguably better, the club would have to pay the going rate which is probably tens of millions. Some would argue that the owning the leasehold is better to save those tens of millions but still have a stadium. Its a business decision at the end of the day.[/p][/quote]Fair point, but comparing a new ground to say Leicester's,(the sort of size I assume we would be looking at)I think you would need more space, possibly moving it over the cricket ground may help, but I've never heard the club considering any of this, I would therefore feel there has to be many complications otherwise it sounds a more realistic idea than turning the ground around and taking up the car park.[/p][/quote]I can assure you that it has been considered (from my days with the Trust). Take a look at google maps, the athletics and grassed area is much bigger than the existing footprint for the stadium. A new enlarged stadium would easily fit but as I said, it would cost more. All irrelavent anyway unless Andrew Black has a change of mind. FYI, another option that the old regime tried was to relocate the cricket club to a completely new site (they didn't say where though), so that the newbury-mafia could also build houses on the site and line their pockets as well! Unsurprisingly the cricket club said, 'no'! Anyway, I can't wait for Saturday. I hope most if not all the extra fans from Tuesday make the effort again. The more the merrier! COYR MITTED
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3:46pm Thu 3 Jan 13

the wizard says...

Taken from the BBC Sport site, quote Patey today,


Swindon chairman Sir William Patey says there will be no money for manager Paolo di Canio to strengthen his squad during the transfer window. The Robins, currently fifth in League One, are now free of a transfer embargo that was imposed last October after they overspent on wages and fees. However, Patey told BBC Wiltshire: "We don't have money to spend on players, that is the reality,"
That was quoted as today just after 10am
Taken from the BBC Sport site, quote Patey today, Swindon chairman Sir William Patey says there will be no money for manager Paolo di Canio to strengthen his squad during the transfer window. The Robins, currently fifth in League One, are now free of a transfer embargo that was imposed last October after they overspent on wages and fees. However, Patey told BBC Wiltshire: "We don't have money to spend on players, that is the reality," That was quoted as today just after 10am the wizard
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4:14pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Steve. Brentford says...

DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
jayden wrote:
DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
Robin of Andover wrote: Groundhog day: Town doing good, manager asks for support from the board; board ask "why, you're doing ok". Manager and supporters frustrated at the board response, again. This is the best chance we have of getting promoted to the Championship, I plead to the board to support PDC now. If you wont back him now, what chance of backing from the board can PDC expect should we find ourselves in the Championship. Its no good after missing this fantastic opportunity to look back and say "We should have backed PDC's request when he asked for it". We have a good team, a brilliant manager, great supporters and we all want the same success for the Town . . . so come on Directors, lets see a fantastic Board . . . please
The board have backed Paolo from day 1. Paolo has spent this seasons budget and more.. Sounds harsh but it true
Hi Darren yep all true bit like her in doors as spent the holiday money on christmas thats life sill its better to waste it than stick it in the bank. Have a great new year and "stay lucky"
and you mate ..
When you see Brentford steve next give him a slap..lol
Dont even try it Romain,i will feast on your liver...happy new year to you all Daz, im busy trying to buy a little football club cheaply at the moment then im going to promise the fans the earth before selling it on the quiet, the fans of that club are going to worship me.

Dont worry
be happy.
[quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Andover[/bold] wrote: Groundhog day: Town doing good, manager asks for support from the board; board ask "why, you're doing ok". Manager and supporters frustrated at the board response, again. This is the best chance we have of getting promoted to the Championship, I plead to the board to support PDC now. If you wont back him now, what chance of backing from the board can PDC expect should we find ourselves in the Championship. Its no good after missing this fantastic opportunity to look back and say "We should have backed PDC's request when he asked for it". We have a good team, a brilliant manager, great supporters and we all want the same success for the Town . . . so come on Directors, lets see a fantastic Board . . . please[/p][/quote]The board have backed Paolo from day 1. Paolo has spent this seasons budget and more.. Sounds harsh but it true[/p][/quote]Hi Darren yep all true bit like her in doors as spent the holiday money on christmas thats life sill its better to waste it than stick it in the bank. Have a great new year and "stay lucky"[/p][/quote]and you mate .. When you see Brentford steve next give him a slap..lol[/p][/quote]Dont even try it Romain,i will feast on your liver...happy new year to you all Daz, im busy trying to buy a little football club cheaply at the moment then im going to promise the fans the earth before selling it on the quiet, the fans of that club are going to worship me. Dont worry be happy. Steve. Brentford
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5:18pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Oi Den! says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
jayden wrote:
DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
Robin of Andover wrote: Groundhog day: Town doing good, manager asks for support from the board; board ask "why, you're doing ok". Manager and supporters frustrated at the board response, again. This is the best chance we have of getting promoted to the Championship, I plead to the board to support PDC now. If you wont back him now, what chance of backing from the board can PDC expect should we find ourselves in the Championship. Its no good after missing this fantastic opportunity to look back and say "We should have backed PDC's request when he asked for it". We have a good team, a brilliant manager, great supporters and we all want the same success for the Town . . . so come on Directors, lets see a fantastic Board . . . please
The board have backed Paolo from day 1. Paolo has spent this seasons budget and more.. Sounds harsh but it true
Hi Darren yep all true bit like her in doors as spent the holiday money on christmas thats life sill its better to waste it than stick it in the bank. Have a great new year and "stay lucky"
and you mate ..
When you see Brentford steve next give him a slap..lol
Dont even try it Romain,i will feast on your liver...happy new year to you all Daz, im busy trying to buy a little football club cheaply at the moment then im going to promise the fans the earth before selling it on the quiet, the fans of that club are going to worship me.

Dont worry
be happy.
Phew! Thank goodness for that. I'll sleep easily tonight. "Steve from Brentford's Red n White Army!"
Has quite a ring a ring to it, don't you think?
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Andover[/bold] wrote: Groundhog day: Town doing good, manager asks for support from the board; board ask "why, you're doing ok". Manager and supporters frustrated at the board response, again. This is the best chance we have of getting promoted to the Championship, I plead to the board to support PDC now. If you wont back him now, what chance of backing from the board can PDC expect should we find ourselves in the Championship. Its no good after missing this fantastic opportunity to look back and say "We should have backed PDC's request when he asked for it". We have a good team, a brilliant manager, great supporters and we all want the same success for the Town . . . so come on Directors, lets see a fantastic Board . . . please[/p][/quote]The board have backed Paolo from day 1. Paolo has spent this seasons budget and more.. Sounds harsh but it true[/p][/quote]Hi Darren yep all true bit like her in doors as spent the holiday money on christmas thats life sill its better to waste it than stick it in the bank. Have a great new year and "stay lucky"[/p][/quote]and you mate .. When you see Brentford steve next give him a slap..lol[/p][/quote]Dont even try it Romain,i will feast on your liver...happy new year to you all Daz, im busy trying to buy a little football club cheaply at the moment then im going to promise the fans the earth before selling it on the quiet, the fans of that club are going to worship me. Dont worry be happy.[/p][/quote]Phew! Thank goodness for that. I'll sleep easily tonight. "Steve from Brentford's Red n White Army!" Has quite a ring a ring to it, don't you think? Oi Den!
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6:00pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Oi Den! says...

Sorry - didn't mean to ring twice!
Sorry - didn't mean to ring twice! Oi Den!
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6:10pm Thu 3 Jan 13

jayden says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Sorry - didn't mean to ring twice!
Bit of a sore ring " er Den"
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Sorry - didn't mean to ring twice![/p][/quote]Bit of a sore ring " er Den" jayden
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10:05pm Thu 3 Jan 13

DarrenSTFCRomain says...

Steve. Brentford wrote:
DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
jayden wrote:
DarrenSTFCRomain wrote:
Robin of Andover wrote: Groundhog day: Town doing good, manager asks for support from the board; board ask "why, you're doing ok". Manager and supporters frustrated at the board response, again. This is the best chance we have of getting promoted to the Championship, I plead to the board to support PDC now. If you wont back him now, what chance of backing from the board can PDC expect should we find ourselves in the Championship. Its no good after missing this fantastic opportunity to look back and say "We should have backed PDC's request when he asked for it". We have a good team, a brilliant manager, great supporters and we all want the same success for the Town . . . so come on Directors, lets see a fantastic Board . . . please
The board have backed Paolo from day 1. Paolo has spent this seasons budget and more.. Sounds harsh but it true
Hi Darren yep all true bit like her in doors as spent the holiday money on christmas thats life sill its better to waste it than stick it in the bank. Have a great new year and "stay lucky"
and you mate .. When you see Brentford steve next give him a slap..lol
Dont even try it Romain,i will feast on your liver...happy new year to you all Daz, im busy trying to buy a little football club cheaply at the moment then im going to promise the fans the earth before selling it on the quiet, the fans of that club are going to worship me. Dont worry be happy.
HA HA LOVE IT..
Hows things mate,,,
Happy new year and all that ****
[quote][p][bold]Steve. Brentford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jayden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DarrenSTFCRomain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robin of Andover[/bold] wrote: Groundhog day: Town doing good, manager asks for support from the board; board ask "why, you're doing ok". Manager and supporters frustrated at the board response, again. This is the best chance we have of getting promoted to the Championship, I plead to the board to support PDC now. If you wont back him now, what chance of backing from the board can PDC expect should we find ourselves in the Championship. Its no good after missing this fantastic opportunity to look back and say "We should have backed PDC's request when he asked for it". We have a good team, a brilliant manager, great supporters and we all want the same success for the Town . . . so come on Directors, lets see a fantastic Board . . . please[/p][/quote]The board have backed Paolo from day 1. Paolo has spent this seasons budget and more.. Sounds harsh but it true[/p][/quote]Hi Darren yep all true bit like her in doors as spent the holiday money on christmas thats life sill its better to waste it than stick it in the bank. Have a great new year and "stay lucky"[/p][/quote]and you mate .. When you see Brentford steve next give him a slap..lol[/p][/quote]Dont even try it Romain,i will feast on your liver...happy new year to you all Daz, im busy trying to buy a little football club cheaply at the moment then im going to promise the fans the earth before selling it on the quiet, the fans of that club are going to worship me. Dont worry be happy.[/p][/quote]HA HA LOVE IT.. Hows things mate,,, Happy new year and all that **** DarrenSTFCRomain
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