THE VIC MORGAN COLUMN: What a start to 2013!

IT WAS a great way to see in 2013 wasn’t it?

A second successive 5-0 home win and a fabulous individual goalscoring display.

James Collins will now be bracketed with Duncan Shearer as the last two Town players to hit four goals in a game, that’s some company to keep.

If I remember correctly, on that day at Home Park Shearer also had one disallowed in a totally dominant Town display.

‘Big Dunc’ also got off to a rather slow start to his Swindon career in terms of goals before becoming a genuine County Ground legend. Perhaps, then, strikers don’t always fire straight away.

So maybe we’ve yet to see the best of Mr Collins in front of goal. Another example of course is a certain Norwegian called Fjortoft.

Remember him?

He couldn’t buy a goal before Christmas in the Premiership, then couldn’t stop finding the back of the net.

One thing’s for sure, we saw a forward with a genuine desire to attack the ball in the penalty area on Tuesday.

A classic centre forward’s display. Long may it continue.

So all good then?

Well it appears once again there are rumours about the future of our club. Ironically we saw a team on New Year’s Day who’d been through several ringers and are just about hanging on.

For all that the Pompey fans were superb, except that confounded drum, and were a real example of never giving up on your side.

Is it too much to ask that we can enjoy this wonderful moment in our history without worrying about what’s around the corner?

I have the greatest admiration for those who saved Swindon Town and have continued to back it.

Thank you. What we need right now though, RIGHT NOW, is a clear statement of intent to see this thing through.

There’s talk of looking for new investors, which is fine, but please tell us there are no bombshells around the Magic Roundabout. We need and deserve that reassurance.

We love and follow our club through thick and sometimes very thin.

Again Mr Black I thank you for what you’ve done but can we have a definitive statement about the future?

That’s all that’s needed and then we can get back to the thing we all want, cheering the Town to the Championship.

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6:59am Thu 3 Jan 13

louiscassius says...

Absolutely spot on!!

Mr Black please......

"Statement of Intent"

Let the fans know what your plans are so we can put an end to idle speculation.

Kind regards

One Cheesed Off STFC Fan!!
Absolutely spot on!! Mr Black please...... "Statement of Intent" Let the fans know what your plans are so we can put an end to idle speculation. Kind regards One Cheesed Off STFC Fan!! louiscassius

7:13am Thu 3 Jan 13

Swindon1984 says...

Agree with every word, the longer the silence continues the more gossip there will be, and it's good for no-one
Agree with every word, the longer the silence continues the more gossip there will be, and it's good for no-one Swindon1984

7:27am Thu 3 Jan 13

Bast01 says...

The truth is that even with a clear and open statement of intent, many many Town fans will hunt for the hidden meaning.. we are either looking for more investors on top of those we have - or instead of those we have - either way the fact is someone is doing the right thing and not looking to leave us cold.

This site and many others thrive on gossip and no statement will stop that. Apparently, there is a hidden statement about the Town in 2013 in the Beatles Abbey Road album cover ?
The truth is that even with a clear and open statement of intent, many many Town fans will hunt for the hidden meaning.. we are either looking for more investors on top of those we have - or instead of those we have - either way the fact is someone is doing the right thing and not looking to leave us cold. This site and many others thrive on gossip and no statement will stop that. Apparently, there is a hidden statement about the Town in 2013 in the Beatles Abbey Road album cover ? Bast01

7:28am Thu 3 Jan 13

ciclosporindorset says...

I am not sure we as impatient fans will get that kind of black or white answer tbh. We knew that the backers would not put more than their budget for the season in. We knew that the club were looking for new investors. We knew that the ground redevelopment was dependent on finding new investment and to share such a risk makes good sense. We knew the plan was reach the championship by end of 2013-14. We knew the club was needing 10k gates to make that viable and we are around 2k short of that. We also know that Black is a private invidual and his interest in the club is at arms length. All we dont know is if Black intends to disinvest and by how much and that my friends is the length of a piece of string and surely his business right now.
I am not sure we as impatient fans will get that kind of black or white answer tbh. We knew that the backers would not put more than their budget for the season in. We knew that the club were looking for new investors. We knew that the ground redevelopment was dependent on finding new investment and to share such a risk makes good sense. We knew the plan was reach the championship by end of 2013-14. We knew the club was needing 10k gates to make that viable and we are around 2k short of that. We also know that Black is a private invidual and his interest in the club is at arms length. All we dont know is if Black intends to disinvest and by how much and that my friends is the length of a piece of string and surely his business right now. ciclosporindorset

7:31am Thu 3 Jan 13

louiscassius says...

This is why the next owners have to love Swindon Town......

And are here for the long term......

Orrrrrrrr

Are so wealthy....they invest in New Stadium, retail park etc.........

That would be truely amazing....

Louis :-))
This is why the next owners have to love Swindon Town...... And are here for the long term...... Orrrrrrrr Are so wealthy....they invest in New Stadium, retail park etc......... That would be truely amazing.... Louis :-)) louiscassius

8:34am Thu 3 Jan 13

robstfc says...

In the current financial climate new investment in retail etc just seems so unlikely at the moment.....

Also..... pushing for promotion as we are..... with an excellent chance imo just how much would we need to invest in the summer?
In the current financial climate new investment in retail etc just seems so unlikely at the moment..... Also..... pushing for promotion as we are..... with an excellent chance imo just how much would we need to invest in the summer? robstfc

8:47am Thu 3 Jan 13

Another view says...

ciclosporindorset is spot on. As far as we know, nohing much has changed behind the scenes. Yes JW probably had to go because he allowed Paolo to keeping raiding the jam jar.

If it wasn't for the ex-diplomat's interview replies sounding like something from Yes Minister, then we'd be talking about the amazing events on the pitch almost non stop. Presumably he is doing his job behind the scenes looking for potential investors.

In the meantime another few goals against Carlisle and a gate of over 8,000 won't do our cause any harm.
ciclosporindorset is spot on. As far as we know, nohing much has changed behind the scenes. Yes JW probably had to go because he allowed Paolo to keeping raiding the jam jar. If it wasn't for the ex-diplomat's interview replies sounding like something from Yes Minister, then we'd be talking about the amazing events on the pitch almost non stop. Presumably he is doing his job behind the scenes looking for potential investors. In the meantime another few goals against Carlisle and a gate of over 8,000 won't do our cause any harm. Another view

9:28am Thu 3 Jan 13

SAPFanSTFC says...

Bast01 wrote:
The truth is that even with a clear and open statement of intent, many many Town fans will hunt for the hidden meaning.. we are either looking for more investors on top of those we have - or instead of those we have - either way the fact is someone is doing the right thing and not looking to leave us cold.

This site and many others thrive on gossip and no statement will stop that. Apparently, there is a hidden statement about the Town in 2013 in the Beatles Abbey Road album cover ?
I'm not sure that is quite true - "Many many fans..." - a few will regardless of how clear the statement is but only if it is not clear will 'Many fans' hunt for the missing lines.
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Let's see what occurs in the January window in so far as players in and out but we do deserve a statement from the board which clearly outlines their position.
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This site and others thrive on discussion....many love the gossip but the problematic area is that a few love the rumour mill...a natural human reaction for many.
[quote][p][bold]Bast01[/bold] wrote: The truth is that even with a clear and open statement of intent, many many Town fans will hunt for the hidden meaning.. we are either looking for more investors on top of those we have - or instead of those we have - either way the fact is someone is doing the right thing and not looking to leave us cold. This site and many others thrive on gossip and no statement will stop that. Apparently, there is a hidden statement about the Town in 2013 in the Beatles Abbey Road album cover ?[/p][/quote]I'm not sure that is quite true - "Many many fans..." - a few will regardless of how clear the statement is but only if it is not clear will 'Many fans' hunt for the missing lines. . Let's see what occurs in the January window in so far as players in and out but we do deserve a statement from the board which clearly outlines their position. . This site and others thrive on discussion....many love the gossip but the problematic area is that a few love the rumour mill...a natural human reaction for many. SAPFanSTFC

10:16am Thu 3 Jan 13

madterrier says...

The idea of someone on a whim spending oodles on a brand new stadium/retail/indus
trial property development is just so far fetched it's laughable. It won't happen.

Clubs who built new stadiums owned their own grounds, usually in a central town location. They sold the land, and used the money to build a plastic stadium on the outskirts, shipping fans there in buses.

This country is on its knees financially. The level of Government and private debt is frightening. One in five shops needs to close, maybe more. There's not enough industry or business. Just look at the empty office premises along the M4 if you don't believe me.

Any redevelopment will have to be at the CG. It's going to require an imaginative design, probably sacrificing the car park and shifting the ground along to give the necessary right to light to houses in Shrivenham Road. Maybe then buy land nearby for parking and operate a park and ride. But that will all cost money too.

The best thing any supporter can do is keep going to the games, and encourage others to as well, to get attendances nearer to the psychological 10,000 mark.
The idea of someone on a whim spending oodles on a brand new stadium/retail/indus trial property development is just so far fetched it's laughable. It won't happen. Clubs who built new stadiums owned their own grounds, usually in a central town location. They sold the land, and used the money to build a plastic stadium on the outskirts, shipping fans there in buses. This country is on its knees financially. The level of Government and private debt is frightening. One in five shops needs to close, maybe more. There's not enough industry or business. Just look at the empty office premises along the M4 if you don't believe me. Any redevelopment will have to be at the CG. It's going to require an imaginative design, probably sacrificing the car park and shifting the ground along to give the necessary right to light to houses in Shrivenham Road. Maybe then buy land nearby for parking and operate a park and ride. But that will all cost money too. The best thing any supporter can do is keep going to the games, and encourage others to as well, to get attendances nearer to the psychological 10,000 mark. madterrier

10:21am Thu 3 Jan 13

red white says...

I just wanna sing the team up,nothing else as a fan i can do or change.

We're goin up,we're goin up,we're goin up and we're going up!
I just wanna sing the team up,nothing else as a fan i can do or change. We're goin up,we're goin up,we're goin up and we're going up! red white

10:59am Thu 3 Jan 13

Blazing Riff says...

red white wrote:
I just wanna sing the team up,nothing else as a fan i can do or change.

We're goin up,we're goin up,we're goin up and we're going up!
Good for you but instead of being a solo artist try to recruit one or two others to make up a duo or even, a trio!
[quote][p][bold]red white[/bold] wrote: I just wanna sing the team up,nothing else as a fan i can do or change. We're goin up,we're goin up,we're goin up and we're going up![/p][/quote]Good for you but instead of being a solo artist try to recruit one or two others to make up a duo or even, a trio! Blazing Riff

11:55am Thu 3 Jan 13

the wizard says...

With retail as we know it going the way it has and with the rise in internet shopping it wouldn't surprise me to see the abandonment of any retail emphasis and instead something along the lines of a sporting complex put in its place. People are now more into fitness, gym, aerobics etc more than ever before, and there always seems to be a demand for more facilities as the existing are always seemingly fully booked. I'm also aware of a bigger picture and with planning permission granted for that the club again becomes a much more attractive proposition for people incoming. The fact that talks are still ongoing with SBC reveals all is not lost, in fact far from it. The gravity of that situation is the eventual development as is right now will be at a very high cost and completely change to the whole appearance as we know it. No news is good news, and the fact Black is now looking to stand aside so that people with enough money to come in and finish the job reveals him as hero not villain.
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With retail as we know it going the way it has and with the rise in internet shopping it wouldn't surprise me to see the abandonment of any retail emphasis and instead something along the lines of a sporting complex put in its place. People are now more into fitness, gym, aerobics etc more than ever before, and there always seems to be a demand for more facilities as the existing are always seemingly fully booked. I'm also aware of a bigger picture and with planning permission granted for that the club again becomes a much more attractive proposition for people incoming. The fact that talks are still ongoing with SBC reveals all is not lost, in fact far from it. The gravity of that situation is the eventual development as is right now will be at a very high cost and completely change to the whole appearance as we know it. No news is good news, and the fact Black is now looking to stand aside so that people with enough money to come in and finish the job reveals him as hero not villain. . the wizard

11:56am Thu 3 Jan 13

Oi Den! says...

Very well said Vic. I wouldn't blame Black for wanting to dilute his "investment" or even get out altogether. I don't know whether he has developed a passion for the Town since he's been involved, but he has no natural allegiance to us. There has to be a point where he questions why he should keep injecting his own cash into the club. I am very grateful for what he has done so far.
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He owes us nothing - except, I believe, a statement of how much involvement he intends to have in our club from now on. It's difficult to rest easily with such uncertainty hanging over the club.
Very well said Vic. I wouldn't blame Black for wanting to dilute his "investment" or even get out altogether. I don't know whether he has developed a passion for the Town since he's been involved, but he has no natural allegiance to us. There has to be a point where he questions why he should keep injecting his own cash into the club. I am very grateful for what he has done so far. . He owes us nothing - except, I believe, a statement of how much involvement he intends to have in our club from now on. It's difficult to rest easily with such uncertainty hanging over the club. Oi Den!

12:05pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Oi Den! says...

terrier, you make some good points but if we sacrifice the car park as you suggest, do we not simply shift the problem with the residents from Shrivenham Road to County Road? I suppose it could work if the club were to buy out the County Road residents, which I presume would be cheaper than buying the Shrivenham Road houses - but at the moment both outcomes seem far from likely.
terrier, you make some good points but if we sacrifice the car park as you suggest, do we not simply shift the problem with the residents from Shrivenham Road to County Road? I suppose it could work if the club were to buy out the County Road residents, which I presume would be cheaper than buying the Shrivenham Road houses - but at the moment both outcomes seem far from likely. Oi Den!

12:20pm Thu 3 Jan 13

madterrier says...

Yes Den, it's hard to see an easy or even a viable solution. Which is perhaps the conclusion that Black and Arbib have come to.

We could perhaps redevelop the Town End upwards, but the incline would have to be so steep that people would need to be nailed to their seats. which is perhaps a solution some would advocate anyway.

Maybe we should just reduce the size of the pitch and ground and play seven-a-side? It would also reduce the number of players Paolo needs to buy.
Yes Den, it's hard to see an easy or even a viable solution. Which is perhaps the conclusion that Black and Arbib have come to. We could perhaps redevelop the Town End upwards, but the incline would have to be so steep that people would need to be nailed to their seats. which is perhaps a solution some would advocate anyway. Maybe we should just reduce the size of the pitch and ground and play seven-a-side? It would also reduce the number of players Paolo needs to buy. madterrier

12:23pm Thu 3 Jan 13

red white says...

Turn the ground round 45 degrees.Back on to the Shrivey go west into the car park/Town end,lot of demolition,but hey, Bournemouth did it.
Turn the ground round 45 degrees.Back on to the Shrivey go west into the car park/Town end,lot of demolition,but hey, Bournemouth did it. red white

12:31pm Thu 3 Jan 13

red white says...

90 degrees stupid.
90 degrees stupid. red white

12:31pm Thu 3 Jan 13

red white says...

90 degrees stupid.
90 degrees stupid. red white

1:14pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Wilesy says...

Oi Den! wrote:
Very well said Vic. I wouldn't blame Black for wanting to dilute his "investment" or even get out altogether. I don't know whether he has developed a passion for the Town since he's been involved, but he has no natural allegiance to us. There has to be a point where he questions why he should keep injecting his own cash into the club. I am very grateful for what he has done so far. . He owes us nothing - except, I believe, a statement of how much involvement he intends to have in our club from now on. It's difficult to rest easily with such uncertainty hanging over the club.
Any idea why Black got involved in the first place, presumably the point of questioning the injection of cash should have been at the start not now. Was it Fitton's persuasion to help save the club? Many have said investing in a football club is unlikely to reap rewards.

Huge gratitude to him of course.

Hopefully a reassuring statement along the lines of supporting the club until a new owner can be found will be made in due course, or perhaps the Q & A twitter session he held a few months ago could be repeated?
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Very well said Vic. I wouldn't blame Black for wanting to dilute his "investment" or even get out altogether. I don't know whether he has developed a passion for the Town since he's been involved, but he has no natural allegiance to us. There has to be a point where he questions why he should keep injecting his own cash into the club. I am very grateful for what he has done so far. . He owes us nothing - except, I believe, a statement of how much involvement he intends to have in our club from now on. It's difficult to rest easily with such uncertainty hanging over the club.[/p][/quote]Any idea why Black got involved in the first place, presumably the point of questioning the injection of cash should have been at the start not now. Was it Fitton's persuasion to help save the club? Many have said investing in a football club is unlikely to reap rewards. Huge gratitude to him of course. Hopefully a reassuring statement along the lines of supporting the club until a new owner can be found will be made in due course, or perhaps the Q & A twitter session he held a few months ago could be repeated? Wilesy

1:18pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Davidsyrett says...

Oi Den! wrote:
terrier, you make some good points but if we sacrifice the car park as you suggest, do we not simply shift the problem with the residents from Shrivenham Road to County Road? I suppose it could work if the club were to buy out the County Road residents, which I presume would be cheaper than buying the Shrivenham Road houses - but at the moment both outcomes seem far from likely.
Any planning permission would have to involve adequate car parking.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: terrier, you make some good points but if we sacrifice the car park as you suggest, do we not simply shift the problem with the residents from Shrivenham Road to County Road? I suppose it could work if the club were to buy out the County Road residents, which I presume would be cheaper than buying the Shrivenham Road houses - but at the moment both outcomes seem far from likely.[/p][/quote]Any planning permission would have to involve adequate car parking. Davidsyrett

1:31pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Oi Den! says...

Wilesy wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
Very well said Vic. I wouldn't blame Black for wanting to dilute his "investment" or even get out altogether. I don't know whether he has developed a passion for the Town since he's been involved, but he has no natural allegiance to us. There has to be a point where he questions why he should keep injecting his own cash into the club. I am very grateful for what he has done so far. . He owes us nothing - except, I believe, a statement of how much involvement he intends to have in our club from now on. It's difficult to rest easily with such uncertainty hanging over the club.
Any idea why Black got involved in the first place, presumably the point of questioning the injection of cash should have been at the start not now. Was it Fitton's persuasion to help save the club? Many have said investing in a football club is unlikely to reap rewards.

Huge gratitude to him of course.

Hopefully a reassuring statement along the lines of supporting the club until a new owner can be found will be made in due course, or perhaps the Q & A twitter session he held a few months ago could be repeated?
I think Fitton must have been the commom denominator - i.e. Wray, Black and Arbib were all contacts of his and he was the instigator because of his local connection. I always thought it was likely that every one of them was part of the consortium because of the possible return from relocation or redevelopment. It is difficult to see any other reason for them wanting to pour money into what is otherwise a bottomless pit.
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Jeremy Wray now has another reason to be involved. He has become a passionate Town fan. As someone suggested (mikek?), if Black is looking to get out it would be good if Wray could front a new consortium. His brother Ed might be a good first recruit! But when all's said and done, we're never going to be an attractive proposition without a realistic prospect of ground redevelopment or relocation (please no!) so maybe we are destined to be little lower division STFC for ever, despite the huge potential.
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: Very well said Vic. I wouldn't blame Black for wanting to dilute his "investment" or even get out altogether. I don't know whether he has developed a passion for the Town since he's been involved, but he has no natural allegiance to us. There has to be a point where he questions why he should keep injecting his own cash into the club. I am very grateful for what he has done so far. . He owes us nothing - except, I believe, a statement of how much involvement he intends to have in our club from now on. It's difficult to rest easily with such uncertainty hanging over the club.[/p][/quote]Any idea why Black got involved in the first place, presumably the point of questioning the injection of cash should have been at the start not now. Was it Fitton's persuasion to help save the club? Many have said investing in a football club is unlikely to reap rewards. Huge gratitude to him of course. Hopefully a reassuring statement along the lines of supporting the club until a new owner can be found will be made in due course, or perhaps the Q & A twitter session he held a few months ago could be repeated?[/p][/quote]I think Fitton must have been the commom denominator - i.e. Wray, Black and Arbib were all contacts of his and he was the instigator because of his local connection. I always thought it was likely that every one of them was part of the consortium because of the possible return from relocation or redevelopment. It is difficult to see any other reason for them wanting to pour money into what is otherwise a bottomless pit. . Jeremy Wray now has another reason to be involved. He has become a passionate Town fan. As someone suggested (mikek?), if Black is looking to get out it would be good if Wray could front a new consortium. His brother Ed might be a good first recruit! But when all's said and done, we're never going to be an attractive proposition without a realistic prospect of ground redevelopment or relocation (please no!) so maybe we are destined to be little lower division STFC for ever, despite the huge potential. Oi Den!

2:10pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Another view says...

red white says...
12:23pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Turn the ground round 45 degrees.Back on to the Shrivey go west into the car park/Town end,lot of demolition,but hey, Bournemouth did it.”

- Nick Watkins mentioned that around 3 years ago. The ground would also move onto part of the cricket pitch. They planned to find an out of town cricket ground which would be full county size, and some athletics would still be accomodated, so satisying the sport only clause.

A hotel/shops could be built at either the same time or a later date. The only minor issue then was lack lack of money! He reckoned serious investors would only come in once they knew a move or re-development had the planning green light.
red white says... 12:23pm Thu 3 Jan 13 Turn the ground round 45 degrees.Back on to the Shrivey go west into the car park/Town end,lot of demolition,but hey, Bournemouth did it.” - Nick Watkins mentioned that around 3 years ago. The ground would also move onto part of the cricket pitch. They planned to find an out of town cricket ground which would be full county size, and some athletics would still be accomodated, so satisying the sport only clause. A hotel/shops could be built at either the same time or a later date. The only minor issue then was lack lack of money! He reckoned serious investors would only come in once they knew a move or re-development had the planning green light. Another view

2:21pm Thu 3 Jan 13

red white says...

Another view wrote:
red white says...
12:23pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Turn the ground round 45 degrees.Back on to the Shrivey go west into the car park/Town end,lot of demolition,but hey, Bournemouth did it.”

- Nick Watkins mentioned that around 3 years ago. The ground would also move onto part of the cricket pitch. They planned to find an out of town cricket ground which would be full county size, and some athletics would still be accomodated, so satisying the sport only clause.

A hotel/shops could be built at either the same time or a later date. The only minor issue then was lack lack of money! He reckoned serious investors would only come in once they knew a move or re-development had the planning green light.
Thanks mate,and my question is,what hold does the cricket club have a hold on things FFS?!

Sure we will get the money from some where,but we'll still go up on adrenalin anyway!
[quote][p][bold]Another view[/bold] wrote: red white says... 12:23pm Thu 3 Jan 13 Turn the ground round 45 degrees.Back on to the Shrivey go west into the car park/Town end,lot of demolition,but hey, Bournemouth did it.” - Nick Watkins mentioned that around 3 years ago. The ground would also move onto part of the cricket pitch. They planned to find an out of town cricket ground which would be full county size, and some athletics would still be accomodated, so satisying the sport only clause. A hotel/shops could be built at either the same time or a later date. The only minor issue then was lack lack of money! He reckoned serious investors would only come in once they knew a move or re-development had the planning green light.[/p][/quote]Thanks mate,and my question is,what hold does the cricket club have a hold on things FFS?! Sure we will get the money from some where,but we'll still go up on adrenalin anyway! red white

3:16pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Another view says...

Red White, I don't think the cricket club has any hold but there is a charitable covenant from the people who gave the land to the council, saying it should only be used for sporting purposes.

I agree with you, think we'll go up on adrenalin, then tv money will increase. JW said sadly the trend is for the top two leagues to get more and more of tv money, leaving the scraps to the two lower leagues.
Red White, I don't think the cricket club has any hold but there is a charitable covenant from the people who gave the land to the council, saying it should only be used for sporting purposes. I agree with you, think we'll go up on adrenalin, then tv money will increase. JW said sadly the trend is for the top two leagues to get more and more of tv money, leaving the scraps to the two lower leagues. Another view

3:30pm Thu 3 Jan 13

madterrier says...

I was going to ask what the story is with the cricket ground...

I know that Glocky once played there - but is it the best use of a prime location? Who owns it?

Still, if they continue to turn it into the quagmire it was on New Year's Day with car parking, it will only be left with a couple of possible uses - women's mud wrestling, or re-enactments of the Battle of Paschaendale.
I was going to ask what the story is with the cricket ground... I know that Glocky once played there - but is it the best use of a prime location? Who owns it? Still, if they continue to turn it into the quagmire it was on New Year's Day with car parking, it will only be left with a couple of possible uses - women's mud wrestling, or re-enactments of the Battle of Paschaendale. madterrier

3:33pm Thu 3 Jan 13

the wizard says...

Another view wrote:
red white says...
12:23pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Turn the ground round 45 degrees.Back on to the Shrivey go west into the car park/Town end,lot of demolition,but hey, Bournemouth did it.”

- Nick Watkins mentioned that around 3 years ago. The ground would also move onto part of the cricket pitch. They planned to find an out of town cricket ground which would be full county size, and some athletics would still be accomodated, so satisying the sport only clause.

A hotel/shops could be built at either the same time or a later date. The only minor issue then was lack lack of money! He reckoned serious investors would only come in once they knew a move or re-development had the planning green light.
I have been given to believe that the Cricket Club lease ends next year 2014, and that is the stumbling block, and the fact the Cricket Club must be compensated and found a viable suitable relocation that is agreeable to them.

A whole new stadium can then be built, and CG would be flattened to make way for all the new income resources.
[quote][p][bold]Another view[/bold] wrote: red white says... 12:23pm Thu 3 Jan 13 Turn the ground round 45 degrees.Back on to the Shrivey go west into the car park/Town end,lot of demolition,but hey, Bournemouth did it.” - Nick Watkins mentioned that around 3 years ago. The ground would also move onto part of the cricket pitch. They planned to find an out of town cricket ground which would be full county size, and some athletics would still be accomodated, so satisying the sport only clause. A hotel/shops could be built at either the same time or a later date. The only minor issue then was lack lack of money! He reckoned serious investors would only come in once they knew a move or re-development had the planning green light.[/p][/quote]I have been given to believe that the Cricket Club lease ends next year 2014, and that is the stumbling block, and the fact the Cricket Club must be compensated and found a viable suitable relocation that is agreeable to them. A whole new stadium can then be built, and CG would be flattened to make way for all the new income resources. the wizard

3:33pm Thu 3 Jan 13

the wizard says...

Another view wrote:
red white says...
12:23pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Turn the ground round 45 degrees.Back on to the Shrivey go west into the car park/Town end,lot of demolition,but hey, Bournemouth did it.”

- Nick Watkins mentioned that around 3 years ago. The ground would also move onto part of the cricket pitch. They planned to find an out of town cricket ground which would be full county size, and some athletics would still be accomodated, so satisying the sport only clause.

A hotel/shops could be built at either the same time or a later date. The only minor issue then was lack lack of money! He reckoned serious investors would only come in once they knew a move or re-development had the planning green light.
I have been given to believe that the Cricket Club lease ends next year 2014, and that is the stumbling block, and the fact the Cricket Club must be compensated and found a viable suitable relocation that is agreeable to them.

A whole new stadium can then be built, and CG would be flattened to make way for all the new income resources.
[quote][p][bold]Another view[/bold] wrote: red white says... 12:23pm Thu 3 Jan 13 Turn the ground round 45 degrees.Back on to the Shrivey go west into the car park/Town end,lot of demolition,but hey, Bournemouth did it.” - Nick Watkins mentioned that around 3 years ago. The ground would also move onto part of the cricket pitch. They planned to find an out of town cricket ground which would be full county size, and some athletics would still be accomodated, so satisying the sport only clause. A hotel/shops could be built at either the same time or a later date. The only minor issue then was lack lack of money! He reckoned serious investors would only come in once they knew a move or re-development had the planning green light.[/p][/quote]I have been given to believe that the Cricket Club lease ends next year 2014, and that is the stumbling block, and the fact the Cricket Club must be compensated and found a viable suitable relocation that is agreeable to them. A whole new stadium can then be built, and CG would be flattened to make way for all the new income resources. the wizard

4:08pm Thu 3 Jan 13

smirg kcab says...

Sue"s coming on board
Don't panic
Onwards inwards outwards backwards
Sue"s coming on board Don't panic Onwards inwards outwards backwards smirg kcab

4:37pm Thu 3 Jan 13

the don69 says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Sue"s coming on board
Don't panic
Onwards inwards outwards backwards
Trust her to join a sinking ship Grim!Willo to be loaned out to Supermarine then Grim(cause as we know,another blank against Pompey)or are you giving him another chance??????????
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Sue"s coming on board Don't panic Onwards inwards outwards backwards[/p][/quote]Trust her to join a sinking ship Grim!Willo to be loaned out to Supermarine then Grim(cause as we know,another blank against Pompey)or are you giving him another chance?????????? the don69

6:10pm Thu 3 Jan 13

red white says...

the wizard wrote:
Another view wrote:
red white says...
12:23pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Turn the ground round 45 degrees.Back on to the Shrivey go west into the car park/Town end,lot of demolition,but hey, Bournemouth did it.”

- Nick Watkins mentioned that around 3 years ago. The ground would also move onto part of the cricket pitch. They planned to find an out of town cricket ground which would be full county size, and some athletics would still be accomodated, so satisying the sport only clause.

A hotel/shops could be built at either the same time or a later date. The only minor issue then was lack lack of money! He reckoned serious investors would only come in once they knew a move or re-development had the planning green light.
I have been given to believe that the Cricket Club lease ends next year 2014, and that is the stumbling block, and the fact the Cricket Club must be compensated and found a viable suitable relocation that is agreeable to them.

A whole new stadium can then be built, and CG would be flattened to make way for all the new income resources.
Thanks,how much to f off the cricket club?! They have never done anything ever!
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Another view[/bold] wrote: red white says... 12:23pm Thu 3 Jan 13 Turn the ground round 45 degrees.Back on to the Shrivey go west into the car park/Town end,lot of demolition,but hey, Bournemouth did it.” - Nick Watkins mentioned that around 3 years ago. The ground would also move onto part of the cricket pitch. They planned to find an out of town cricket ground which would be full county size, and some athletics would still be accomodated, so satisying the sport only clause. A hotel/shops could be built at either the same time or a later date. The only minor issue then was lack lack of money! He reckoned serious investors would only come in once they knew a move or re-development had the planning green light.[/p][/quote]I have been given to believe that the Cricket Club lease ends next year 2014, and that is the stumbling block, and the fact the Cricket Club must be compensated and found a viable suitable relocation that is agreeable to them. A whole new stadium can then be built, and CG would be flattened to make way for all the new income resources.[/p][/quote]Thanks,how much to f off the cricket club?! They have never done anything ever! red white

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